Yes true
#lore-and-universe
versed helm
lethal comet
last i checked, spark just calls him reclaimer
@versed helm In 'Halo' spark says, "You are the child of my makers. Inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner"
lethal comet
He even mistook chief for the iso didact in ce
inner basin
I think it's due to the genes that are put into humans that allows them to interact with Forerunner tech
lethal comet
and assumed chief knew the protocols of firing halo
lethal comet
H4 makes me wonder if Chief's 'luck' trait was his geas all along
the reason how he took down the covenant and survived the flood
versed helm
Yea cuz flood bad
cedar surge
I hope his luck is not actually a genetic trait
lethal comet
Makes you wonder if the Librarian predicted the created as well
Since she predicted the covenant
gilded mason
the reason how he took down the covenant and survived the flood```
The geas isn't *that* powerfulI don't really like chosen one stories
versed helm
She sees the future of the badness
inner basin
I don't see how his genes could make him lucky
gilded mason
It's just for "steering" Reclaimers in the Librarian's desired direction along with cheatcodes to Forerunner tech
lethal comet
She said that Cortana, his mjolnir everything was planned
gilded mason
Yes, as in humans will eventually come up with that stuff
A generality, not specifics
cedar surge
How do you make a species do specific things like inventing tech
lethal comet
How did she count on him for surviving so long
gilded mason
No idea, but the geas does it
lethal comet
The product of a thousand lifetimes of planning
gilded mason
She would have said the same thing to any Spartan that got to her
versed helm
What’s the geas again? I’m just doing the halo campaigns for the first time in idk how long
cedar surge
So humanity didn't really invent the tech on their own? They were guided into doing it?
gilded mason
versed helm
Thanks
lethal comet
Maybe Earth didn't get forerunner tech as cheat sheets like sanghelios and san shyuum homeworld due to the planning
lethal comet
They hid the forerunner stuff on Earth really well to prompt humanity to make stuff on its own
Unlike sangheili and prophets
gilded mason
Not really technically. After all, the geas is what guided them into getting there. Would humanity have developed along the same path in Halo without the geas?
cedar surge
So humanity just got a weaker cheat sheet
versed helm
hello fellow brother
lethal comet
The whole human covenant war looks like a set up due to the forerunners now
cedar surge
Yea
lethal comet
Leaving tech on prophet's homeworld
cedar surge
I'm not a fan
versed helm
we got the cheat sheet, sangheili and sanshyum got the whole book
gilded mason
Actually it's due to Mendicant Bias' bumblingness
cedar surge
I'm not a fan of he whole guiding species thing
versed helm
Man mendicant bias kinda sucked a lot
lethal comet
Maybe the dreadnought was placed there on purpose since they knew about the nature of san shyuum
manipulative
cedar surge
Ah yes a entire species is manipulative
lethal comet
Spark said it in h2a terminal
gilded mason
That was because of MB being foolish.
versed helm
Well now I’m happy mendicant is almost ded
lethal comet
Mendicant good
versed helm
actully. medicant helped forward the storyline
so craig is right
Yea but then the primordial made him bad
lethal comet
And he was fragmented so not really peak capacity
gilded mason
I dunno. Humans can make Forerunner tech work intuitively and easily because of the geas, with systems letting them have access, while every other species has no such shortcuts.
versed helm
but they did have access to it before us
gilded mason
Though not easily. They had to struggle with it quite a bit while studying it.
cedar surge
Well at least humans are not opening locked forerunner doors like a certain faction does
cedar surge
And I found the inquisitor
orchid prism
@lethal comet yes ONI bad
gilded mason
Remember CE? John opens locked doors and so does Keyes. 😉
orchid prism
But it's a necessary evil
versed helm
I don’t count oni they do inhumane experiments and you can’t spell inhumane without inhuman
lethal comet
But it's a necessary evil
@orchid prism Tell that to sanghelios
lethal comet
That wasn't Keyes fault
@cedar surge They locked it pretty good
cedar surge
And john only opens doors to give death
versed helm
This is true
lethal comet
Keyes just unlocked it again with a total disregard for the signs
versed helm
Even tho a marine said it looks like it shouldn’t be opened
cedar surge
Not a fan of "OH yea,humans are chosen by the gods to be the best race,we have the best tech and we are all knowing, Humanity heck yea"
versed helm
Why didn’t the flood infect the elite carcass
lethal comet
Why didn’t the flood infect the elite carcass
@versed helm Too damaged maybe
cedar surge
Cause they were getting full
cedar surge
No if its organic they can take it
lethal comet
It had a hole in its chest
cedar surge
They can still use the biomass
snow void
Just saw responses, people took me saying Johnson basically ran the UNSC, as a serious comment.
lethal comet
They can still use the biomass
@cedar surge That was still the feral stage
lethal comet
They look for capable combat forms first then extra biomass
cedar surge
Wait so that copypasta about how humanity had to claw their way up to this technology level and not given a glorified cheat sheet is completely wrong?
Cause natural use of forerunner tech,"guided" their way towards technology
The forerunners really just became backseat drivers for humanity
gilded mason
That copypasta was really cringy.
lethal comet
Maybe Halsey is the product of geas as well like John
Without her Humanity would be done for
gilded mason
She is the one who came up with the augmentations, just as the Librarian talked about. So she was affected by the geas, too.
cedar surge
Is everything according to plan
gilded mason
Nope
lethal comet
The Librarian gave her the janus key just like that
gilded mason
Almost nothing is
cedar surge
Even after their downfall the forerunners are in control of a species
lethal comet
The lifeworkers are
cedar surge
Though they still want to support the mantle
Shoukdnt they see what's wrong with the mantle by now?
gilded mason
Who?
lethal comet
Maybe its planned
cedar surge
Forerunners
lethal comet
The librarian was a very far thinker
gilded mason
They're all dead or in exile, so they're not in much position to talk about it anymore, really
Except for the Librarian AI, at least
cedar surge
And what does she tgink
gilded mason
Who is still weirdly focused on it, as of Renegades
lethal comet
The imprint just explained stuff
lethal comet
The guidance of the galaxy had begun before the firing
cedar surge
The downfall of their empire
lethal comet
The librarian had hope in humanity
cedar surge
How is humanity different
lethal comet
We are always at war
cedar surge
We are not one personality
lethal comet
😂
cedar surge
The mantle even lead to the created
lethal comet
Maybe she saw what the precursors had seen in humans
cedar surge
Saw what
lethal comet
I am not a precursor
cedar surge
I don't see how humanity is more qualified than the forerunners
Its not like humanity is a person you can trust
Its billions of people who you given the right to rule over others
gilded mason
Yup
lethal comet
There must have been a reason why the precursors chose humans
gilded mason
Because they're dumb.
lethal comet
over forerunners
cedar surge
Humanity supiority complex
gilded mason
The Mantle is a flawed concept that can never really work out
cedar surge
The only way it works is if you have a galaxy of perfect people
lethal comet
The precursors worked it for billions of years
Till their own creation kill them
Yeah I see the flaw now
cedar surge
Just the passing of the mantle is a problem
cedar surge
Huh. Maybe that's why people don't like getting this info on the start of halo
I read a entire article on why the forerunners are incompitant
lethal comet
tbh who isnt now
gilded mason
Was it by Haruspis?
gilded mason
Ah
lethal comet
Why do I feel like Hunt the Truth had a better story than H5
cedar surge
Well it sounds interesting
The chief went rouge,Spartans have to hunt him down, and ONI is up to something
And in halo 5 you got cortana coming back and a AI uprising
lethal comet
The marketing campaign was better than the game it self
I actually feel sad when someone dies in hunt the truth
cedar surge
I liked his articles on the unsc fleet,nukes, and AI
Seeing chief going rouge and eventually start to realise that cortana isn't coming back
How does the unsc terrarium stuff?
Do they use lasers,or maybe even stuff like mac canons, how do they change the environment
lethal comet
https://www.halopedia.org/Terraforming @cedar surge
Throw ice to make oceans
Bombarding asteroids for new crust
Do they use lasers,or maybe even stuff like mac canons, how do they change the environment
They use mass drivers which are similar to MACs
cedar surge
You mean they load a ship full of ice and throw it at the planet
lethal comet
You mean they load a ship full of ice and throw it at the planet
@cedar surge A mass driver
Like a mac canon but with asteroids and ice
versed helm
they used that to fend off the covies in the mission with grey team, right?
golden totem
I just went through all the Halo 2 terminals and for some reason I never put it together that the Arbiter was at Reach. It makes total sense in hindsight, I just never connected those dots for some reason.
craggy sierra
He was also at the Halo ring in CE.
golden totem
Right, I knew that part, which is why I feel dumb for not realizing he was the one chasing them from Reach haha
versed helm
arby's been in CE to 5, besides 4, right?
golden totem
I don't know that you ever see him in CE, but he was definitely there.
versed helm
oh, he was. we just dont see him
golden totem
He wasn't in ODST if you count that
golden totem
After reading about the Grunt Rebellion, I really want a campaign where we play as a Grunt during it.
versed helm
thats a thing that can be done on forge, if im not wrong
like, making a custom campaign, or scenario
it'd a heck lot of work, tho
golden totem
It'd be like Halo Survival Mode. Having to maintain your methane levels, and being even squishier than you are in ODST.
Meanwhile your friends are dying and exploding into confetti with the delighted cheers of children from a race you don't even know about yet.
inner basin
What's your guys thoughts on Omega Team. Do you think that their lore should be expanded or left ambigiously for headcanon fanfiction?
I'm kinda for both personally, so I wouldn't mind either way
sharp adder
Mabey expanded a bit and add more to Dubbo
golden totem
Oh man, imagine if we had Dubbo instead of the pilot in Infinite
versed helm
Hmm, what would win in a battle, a LAAT Gunship or a Phantom? My bet is on the LAAT Gunship.
lethal comet
H2 phantom all the way
versed helm
Nah.
versed helm
@snow void lord hood run the UNSC
@versed helm battle condor all the way
@versed helm That was not part of my question.
but it is the obvious answer
lasers + rail guns
It doesn't have the dome turrets though, sorry.
Plus, the cargo rack is not obstructed by several turrets (that are not meeting regulations).
hmmmmmmm
nimble crest
You know there’s more branches in the UNSC? Right? Lord Hood didn’t run the navy, marines and army.
versed helm
lord admiral hood headed the UNSC
kinda makes sense he headed different branches of the UNSC too
cedar surge
Why was the infinity the ship that was supposed to be the ark for humanity? Couldn't have they also used Phoenix class colony or support ships
The Phoenix class support ship could carry I think 11 thousand people
Why not also use those
obsidian thistle
Its also possible other ships were planned. But just never made
Infinity just being the main cahoona
versed helm
is it possible we get to see more infinity-class ships in HI
humble yacht
Probably not
obsidian thistle
Tbh its like how other Spartan may wear the armor Master Chier wore in Halo 5. But as the games kinda paint the thing as unique or iconic we may not see more of them in the mainline entries.
humble yacht
how do you know that canonically the Mark VI mod model was distributed to other spartans?
obsidian thistle
Well there is two things that suggest it. One is weak though. The other is slightly better.
The weak one is the Mega Construx sets of canon Spartan Fireteams having Spartans wear it.
The other one is the Coloring book having artwork of two Spartans wearing it in a piece. And atm there is nothing saying that isnt canon.
Most of that coloring book can fit into places in canon without issue. So its not like its a issue. Only 2 oddities tbh.
The M12 Warthog getting called a M12B. But Grim told us to ignore that issue.
And a piece being very stylistic. But thats an exception not the rule.
humble yacht
Seems to me that there would be no logistical purpose to mass producing that particular model
obsidian thistle
Well we dont really have much info on the Halo 5 version
Tbh thats the only unfortunate part
random pilot
Why did they cast narnia susan for the diehard loyalist in FuD?
humble yacht
Because she auditioned for the role and did a good job
cedar surge
If ODPs are powered wirelessy do they do the same for ships
fair hazel
They have onboard fusion reactors
lethal comet
ODPs do not possess the power generation equipment necessary to fire their main armament. Instead, they receive power from ground-based generators.
Maybe power tethers
Since generators on board would prove to be a vulnerability
Fusion reactors for monorail and other station needs except the mac
lethal comet
Is 'A Fistful Of Arrows' canon?
fair hazel
NO it's not
inner basin
is it possible we get to see more infinity-class ships in HI
@versed helm Well we also have the Eternity, but parts that were to be used to for it were redirected to the Infinity after the Infinity took heavy punishment during the Battle of Atkis IV and the ambush at Oth Lodon (a few months prior to the former)
fair hazel
IMagine a half-builty eternity just going around
terse lava
Eh will take half a CSO
real shadow
I wrapping up the Bad Blood audio book and I just have to say Mickey is so darn insufferable
cedar surge
Because he is a insurrectionist?
peak vault
The secret demon that's name means demon creates a bunch of demons the kill demons(to at least humanity).
versed helm
demon making demons to kill alien demons
cedar surge
Hey is that 3 unsc ships vs 1 covenant ship still true or has it gone down post war
terse lava
would still say it's true overall, humanity doesn't have that many advanced ships yet
lethal comet
Post war covenant ships don't seem as powerful
gilded mason
Grim confirmed they're just as good.
terse lava
they are indeed quite powerful still
remember post war we only have a focus on the infinity and her band of merry tugboats
cedar surge
So post war unsc ships are as good as covenant ships now
terse lava
of course, but remember there are hundreds of covenant factions now
only some and only in very, very limited numbers
lethal comet
of course, but remember there are hundreds of covenant factions now
But they aren't united
cedar surge
How do you know limited numbers
terse lava
I never said they were united, and truth is there may be covenant factions out there just as large as the unsc
gilded mason
(Or even larger)
lethal comet
Some unsc ships even have energy shielding now
cedar surge
I would say a autumn class could beat equal covenant classes
terse lava
because humanity just got over a 30 year war which ruined them pretty much. The only advanved ships we see are pretty much the infinity and her fleet
lethal comet
so 3 to 1 is definitely not true in every scenario now
terse lava
I would still hold it true until shown otherwise
cedar surge
Posiden class, vindication class, autumn class, anlace class
Strident class
Heck it even says over mars and tribute that hundreds of anlace and students are being made
"hundreds of Strident- and Anlace-class frigates were commissioned and assembled in shipyards above Mars and Tribute to replace the combat losses and engage Covenant remnants occupying the Outer Colonies.
terse lava
hm, where is that sourced from?
gilded mason
(Warfleet is the source)
cedar surge
The UNSC has many new advanced ships in the navy
terse lava
curious, alright
cedar surge
Though the infinity and her stridents get most of the action from what I've seen
versed helm
at least they wont have any problems with mirrors
jovial temple
Well after it cools you can still kinda rebuild. Just look at the human colony on meridian
versed helm
and reach. after its re-colonization
inner basin
Reach’s main re-colonisation efforts doesn’t happen though until later in the timeline from 2560 (where we are now)
I think by 2589 is when it finally got to a habitable state if my memory serves me correctly
cedar surge
Wonder how remnant fleets apdapted
They can't steamroll unsc fleets as easily as before
Now they have shielding or other lesser forms of shielding on their ships, better weapons
And 30 years of experience
flat swift
Do Spartan 2 have any humanity
wispy tiger
I feel like the splinter-factions of the covenant rely more on "guerilla" tactics now... Since they can't steamroll over unsc fleets anymore, aside from the odd small-patrol fleet of frigates and corvettes.
flat swift
Do Spartan 2 have any humanity
lethal comet
I am the real craig
lethal comet
no i am real craig
versed helm
cause we are the same
wait i know jun is a spartan 3 but howcomes he retired and the 2s didnt is it to do with cryogen or the spartan 2s just aging slower
versed helm
oh ok they all were molded and conditioned from a young age so i understand why most of them didnt
war was the only life they knew
inner basin
wait are blue team and red team the last spartan 2s then
@versed helm Team Omega is another Spartan-II Team still active as of 2558. I know this was discussed a while ago but the aforementioned team was never brought up, so here you go
Team Omega is a fully Spartan-II comprised 6 man team that worked closely together with Red Team. It was depicted in Halo Wars during the Arcadia Missions
lethal comet
It would be nice to see like every spartan fight side by side in a game
Including 4s
inner basin
Fun potential fact about Omega is that it is believed that they were originally washout Spartan-IIs because they worked with Red Team who were also originally washout Spartan-IIs before being retrained and re-augmented
It would be nice to see like every spartan fight side by side in a game
That would be pretty cool... but maybe also confusing for new fans. Besides they gotta save something for the books and give some creative freedom to the writers
The above also goes for fan-fic writers (such as myself) and their headcanon
inner basin
Well things fell through when 343 (I think) were discussing it with the author. Don't know the details about that though
I mean it could've been Bungie, but I think it was 343
But no one is stopping you from putting it in your headcanon. I have it in mine as it still fits with the existing lore
random pilot
Narnia susan does an okay job if you've never seen her before, but otherwise it's narnia susan
versed helm
arrows fits into headcanon
sharp adder
I felt sorry for jenk8ns but he died saving earth from the flood
craggy sierra
...didn’t he die releasing the flood?
limpid meadow
No, he was infected but retained some level of consciousness.
humble yacht
He was like a passenger in his own body
Except for a moment when the flood weakened and he was able to speak briefly to warn his friends
limpid meadow
He was captured by UNSC forces on the ring and managed to regain limited control of his body at a few points, warning them first of a Flood attack on Alpha Base, then later that the Truth & Reconciliation was not Flood-free like Silva suspected
humble yacht
The real question is that when he ultimately died, did he remain at peace or did he end up joining the hive mind after all
limpid meadow
A good question. Given what we know, I suspect that at least his knowledge would remain as part of the Flood.
humble yacht
Seems like the pod infector’s connection to the greater network was compromised, so I wonder if anything got uploaded
limpid meadow
Could be. Ultimately, I'd say there's enough precedent that 343 could say Jenkins, or at least his knowledge, was "uploaded" if they wanted to. It could reasonably go either way.
humble yacht
Cortana chose Chief back before the fall of reach
obsidian thistle
Just unfortunate we dont have enough info on if stuff changes when a Gravemind is present or not
Cause one could also presume that without a Gravemind. The Flood are not as cordinated and that may also go as far in how conscience is absorbed
But again thats just presumptions and guesses
Hard to say anything about the Alpha Halo infection
versed helm
Was Hayabusa ever canonically used in combat? In particular the ceremonial katana?
humble yacht
Canonically hayabusa was a competitor to mjolnir
versed helm
I thought it initially was developed without the think tank that designed it even knowing of MK VI?
Only to be later integrated into MK VI along with all of its enhancements?
humble yacht
It ended up being a competitor to MJOLNIR
versed helm
“Although initially developed as its own powered armor system, it seems that the Hayabusa armor has been modified and adapted to be compatible with the next-generation Mjolnir Armor system. This allowed it to be available for use by the SPARTAN-II supersoldiers although its field deployment appeared to be extremely limited.”
versed helm
Can hayabusa be called a skunkwork S-II armour?
cause of the whole adaptibility thing
limpid meadow
Probably a bit of yes and no. The original Project HAYABUSA wouldn't be, but making is compatible with Mjolnir probably could be considered "skunkworks"
versed helm
also
the guys at 343 had sent out links for halo infinite and other halo media packs, right?
anybody still have those? i cant find them
humble yacht
you can find those on waypoint
feral perch
why do you say that tho
humble yacht
why does he say kek?
feral perch
yeah
humble yacht
kek is lol in Horde speak in WoW
versed helm
i just find it a better thing to say than ok
like
instead of saying ok then
or okayyy
i just go kek
or kekek
its my substitute for any form of ok
feral perch
It’s not appropriate imo. It’s like saying lol in response to a genuine answer. that sounds more aggressive than I mean, but like, it’s weird
humble yacht
it literally means lol tho
versed helm
its a thing that started between me and my sister
humble yacht
saying kek when you mean "ok" is like saying tortilla when you want to say "be there soon"
humble yacht
i mean, you can do what you want, just know that you're using the term wrong. Blizzard may not have trademarked kek but they defined its usage
versed helm
yeah. i'll stop using it
feral perch
you could just say Craig. That’s the right answer to virtually anything here
versed helm
hmmm....
"how many craigs has it been since you craig'd this place"
"its not been half a craig since i craig'd it"
craig's a whole language into itself
feral perch
true
cedar surge
How much mac shots do you think the autumn has
It said on the halopedia page that the strident has a low amount so it stays near supply depos
Thpugh i don't know why the strident had this problem and not other frigates
last anchor
Storage size. MAC rounds are not small
cedar surge
So they got bigger?
humble yacht
the size of the round depends on the size of the MAC
Super MACs, like the space station ones, can fire bigger rounds
hollow sentinel
question - why do individual rings need an index to activate them but the ark just needed a human touch to activate all of them
limpid meadow
To get to the Ark, you generally need a Keyship to activate a portal. The Keyship is basically the Ark's version of the Index.
delicate notch
Whats the secret society of monitors overseeing the human race?
humble yacht
The Assembly
delicate notch
Right, for some reason I thought they were called "The Overseers"
delicate notch
Might be some "Dr.Who" reference, keeping up the status quo.
cedar surge
Would it matter if the assembly existed or not?
I think they mostly talked about stuff
delicate notch
I think it would, I see them as the coordinator of our evolution in a way. They never gave any of the old human tech to us, but they kept us "running" in technical evolution and expanse.
cedar surge
Can you tell me what things the assembly did for humanity? All I know is that they were the ones said to "run" humanity
I don't see how if humanity was in control of itself things would change
And what do you mean by controller of our evolution?
delicate notch
I dont know much about them at all, but I saw them as the janitor of humanity. They kept us on the roadmap, they helped us in some ways. But they never went in and said "Hey, you were hypertech 100.000 years ago and here's some all of that tech".
cedar surge
How would unsc AI know what was going on 100 000 years ago
The assembly is made up of unsc AI
Not ancient or forerunner AI
So how would they even know about ancient humanity
The forerunners went on a rampage to destroy every trace of ancient humanity tech and then devolved them
fair hazel
i doubt the assembley is real
cedar surge
I'm fine with them not being real
delicate notch
I thought they were monitors of forerunner tech D:
cedar surge
Yes the assembly is made up of unsc AI who "run" humanity
delicate notch
Well, then I was wrong. I thought it was forerunner ai's who "deserted" to aid humanity
flat swift
How do the covvies reptofuce
flat swift
How a re grunts born?
vague scroll
eggs as well
nimble crest
Assuming brutes are live?
craggy sierra
Bruted are mammals, yes
gilded mason
Mammal-like ;)
craggy sierra
Seems pretty mammalian to me
feral perch
bro did you really just post that
gilded mason
I'm just bein' an annoying pedant. 😉
terse lava
good going Ostral
sly yew
Is it confirmed male spartans are circumsizsed?
gilded mason
No. It is not.
sly yew
When a spartan is confirmed of having AIDS I’ll forever hate Halo.
Oops I forgot I can’t say that. F
craggy sierra
...wtf?
unique rune
Strange thing to mention at all but... o-okay...
lethal comet
Can you tell me what things the assembly did for humanity? All I know is that they were the ones said to "run" humanity
@cedar surge The assembly decided that Humanity wasn't ready for the tech at onyx so made it a classified zone, They are indirectly responsible for starting the Orion project which led to the spartans which was their end goal to be ready for alien threats
cedar surge
So didn't most people in Orion die
lethal comet
Don't remember much about that but the assembly's end goal were the spartans
They kept humanity from finding forerunner cheat sheets
hollow timber
hi
i am new
and love the lore of halo
so is this where it is discoused
sorry for bad spelling
gilded mason
Yup
versed helm
okayyyyyyy
lethal comet
Halo4 ftw
versed helm
mhm
lethal comet
Lets get back to lore shall we
versed helm
okay
cedar surge
A city full of billions of people getting infected by the flood, the elites having their faith challenged and the prophets and brutes trying to wipe them out, the foward unto dawn getting infected, everyone at New mombasa nearly dying
I am slightly late but I was commited
cedar surge
Oh
lethal comet
I hope SoR features the assembly in some way
cedar surge
Spirit of rire
lethal comet
Shadows of reach
cedar surge
Ain't they in canon limbo?
versed helm
r the flood coming back in halo infinte
cedar surge
Maybe
versed helm
yay
lethal comet
Maybe the banished sterilized the ring
cedar surge
Get prepared to get swarmed by flood,prometheans,and banished :)
versed helm
oh yay!
lethal comet
I want full on hundreds of spartans fighting every one of Cortana's guardians
cedar surge
Though the closets conformation on the flood are those pug audios videos. And the grunts also use pug sounds so
unique rune
Revisiting Halo CE's and 2's campaigns recently only has me questioning why in the world anyone thinks the Flood are any more fun to fight than Prometheans.
versed helm
ok
cedar surge
Yea I hate fighting the flood
lethal comet
I want full on hundreds of spartans fighting every one of Cortana's guardians
The Infinity's spartans may have survived
versed helm
i like it because its harder
gilded mason
For CE and 2, at least, killing Flood was fairly easy if you have a shotgun for the former, or that and a precision weapon for the latter
versed helm
agreed
unique rune
It's relatively easy, but in the numbers they come in, it's really more just tiresome than anything
cedar surge
But then there is always that one flood form that's left behind that ambushes and kills me
unique rune
Round the corner and oh boy another fifteen combat forms coming at you
versed helm
yes thats true
gilded mason
I enjoyed the "shooting gallery" aspect of them in those two
Now, Halo 3's pure forms were awful.
cedar surge
What about three
versed helm
witch halo game is best?
unique rune
Pure forms were awful almost solely because of the ranged ones.
Otherwise they would've been mostly tolerable as just another annoying Flood thing.
But the ranged form.... ugh.
versed helm
i know right
lethal comet
stalkers are nightmare fuel
cedar surge
Good thing you didn't have to fight any flood forms from halo wars
unique rune
The stalker and tank forms are visually unsettling but at least they're stuck in close quarters and go down easily with a sword swing.
Fighting ranged forms felt like trying to close in on a pair of Covie carbines going full auto.
unique rune
Halo Wars is the one campaign I haven't bothered to finish... never got past Arcadia City.
Should probably just get through it on normal sometime instead of legendary.
Speaking of finishing things.
I need to get back to reading Battle Born.
lethal comet
Flamethrower on a group of flood forms is soo satisfying
versed helm
?
cedar surge
That's the one where kids got to be Spartans right?
versed helm
idk
unique rune
That's the one where kids got to be Spartans right?
Group of civilian kids on Meridian have to work with a Spartan-III, but I don't think they become Spartans themselves... could be wrong, haven't read enough of it.
cedar surge
That thing about kids being allowed to become Spartans bothered me before I realised the other generations also become Spartans as kids
Meridian is that colony that held off the covenant for 3 years right?
versed helm
has any one done halo laso master
lethal comet
has any one done halo laso master
@versed helm Thats suicide
I love my keyboard and desk
versed helm
lol
unique rune
Meridian is that colony that held off the covenant for 3 years right?
Uh... maybe? Not actually sure about that.
All I really care to remember about Meridian is that there's a few campaign missions on it in Halo 5.
lethal comet
Without Iron skull it is kinda doable
versed helm
i play on xbox 1
yer
u there
lol
o_o
i think i killed you all
oops
oh your alive
yay
lethal comet
Don't have much time.....ambushed.....infection........run
versed helm
lol
lethal comet
Another corpse for my grave!
In h3 the gravemind actually speaks through combat forms in gameplay
just found that out
spiral jewel
I know that she was dispensed in August 2552, but I wonder if Halsey was smart enough to make some sort of backup for Kalmiya in the event something happened to Cortana (though she probably never had the time to)
lethal comet
Operation White glove required everything be destroyed
Halsey would be smart enough not to leave a copy for the covenant
spiral jewel
She could have taken it with her in secret, (probably off screen , or whatever a novelized equivalent is)
vague scroll
That’s rather a hamfisted way of trying to justify something in lore
In universe it’s been 8 years since CE and the Fall of Reach, Halsey would never have the opportunity or mindfulness to keep something like that out of sight
In writing, we call something that comes out of nowhere a deus ex machina
cedar surge
So does earth have no more resources anymore?
terse lava
what makes you say that? It likely has some
lethal comet
They must be low but not completely depleted
Titanium must have been rare till they colonized reach
cedar surge
Because its talked about how the outer colonies where being used to sustain the inner colonies
vague scroll
Earth has plenty of resources
The outer colonies sustained the inner colonies because there were a lot less people in the outer colonies and thus room for natural resources and industry development over the inner colonial consumer culture
cedar surge
And now there are more inner colonies than outer?
vague scroll
There’s barely any inner or outer colonies to begin with now that the wars over
The Covenant glassed the majority of them
There’s enough that the UEG didn’t collapse but the infrastructure of human civilization is harder to pin down now since there isn’t much detail on what the UEG looks like post war
Some time it’s depicted as a thriving rebuilding utopia, other times the post war society Looks like a dystopian survelliance state
cedar surge
Do they count the glasssed colonies as still part of their territory or do they only count the survivor colonies. I would say the former because they can still use the system the planet was in
carmine vector
So ... Where can I read about what has happened between Halo 5 - Halo Infinite?
gilded mason
Bad Blood and, when it comes out, Shadows of Reach.
carmine vector
Is that all, atm?
gilded mason
Basically it. There's a couple short stories in Fractures about the immediate aftermath, but not much other than that
carmine vector
Roger, thanks for the information.
gilded mason
👍
stable flower
Anyone else wanna know what CMA troops look like?
cedar surge
Likely the same as unsc troops
versed helm
wait. CMA stands for?
terse lava
Colonial Military Administration
terse lava
welcome
cedar surge
Is that halo anime canon
gilded mason
The plots, but not necessarily the visuals. Odd One Out is fully non-canon
gilded mason
Yeah
versed helm
and that weird brute called pluton
cedar surge
I saw clips of it on youtube
versed helm
odd one out was a weird episode
terse lava
well that was the point, over dramtiac anime
versed helm
too much DBZ vibe
silent turtle
.... Random tidbit. I got curious, and I wanted to see how many enemies does a Spartan kill in a single mission, at least from a gameplay perspective. Tried Halo 3, Heroic difficulty, Crow's Nest. Had scoring to count as many kills as possible, no skulls, playing without dying.
Final result? 247 enemies, round it up to 250 enemies. 109 Grunts, 40 Jackals, 50-54 Drones, 49 Brutes.
I'm taking a minor-task as what would formally be only part of a major mission or military operation, but... Jesus. I knew Spartans were lethal. But 250 enemies are a whole military company, and I'm not even counting the War Chieftains killed. A whole company gone would mean an unmitigated disaster for our society.
Goes to show just how lethal Spartans are, and how willing the Covenant is at throwing enemies at anything without caring for their subjects' lives.
jovial temple
The covenant deploy grunts by the thousands because of how fast they can breed
They drug them up and send them on the battlefield
Grunts probably not even a year old
Covies didn’t care about anything besides killing humans and firing the rings. Everything else was irrelevant
versed helm
yeah. covies are basically alien jihadis
silent turtle
I mean... I knew the Master Chief was a lethal vector by himself, but I always imagined a standard mission had, what? A hundred? A hundred fifty? After finally giving myself the time to test it, the result was still horrifying!
versed helm
and to think. thats just one spartan
a full team can easily get a thousand kills
imagine what'll happen if a full company is sent in
versed helm
S-IIIs weren't all that good
yeah, they were trained by a S-II and Mendez
but they didnt have that edge
silent turtle
I mean... imagine the sheer psychological damage 250 dead in one mission by one man can cause. To the Spartan, to the handful of survivors that saw the carnage, and to their families hearing about it.
It's like Genndy Tartakovsky's General Grievous' introduction. It's a horror movie.
jovial temple
Spartan II’s have the combat experience. But a lot of people believe spartan III’s are just as good but I don’t see it either ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Give me a II over III any day
cedar surge
Spartan IIIs are not worse than Spartan IIs
They just get sent by the hundreds on suicide missions with worse armor
Heck noble team was mostly Spartan IIIs and 1 II and look at how much they got done
Six by the end of reach would have easily hundreds of kills
Heck didn't Kurt say that IIIs had better or tougher training than Spartan 2s?
inner basin
Well the IIIs were taught by Kurt (a Spartan-II) and Mendez, the trainer of the Spartan-IIs.
But one thing I don’t get is why people think that the IIIs are inferior to the IIs. It baffles me. The only REAL difference being between them for the most part (not including Gamma) is the armour. Give a III Mjolnir (which is hella expensive) instead of SPI and they’ll still put it to good use
cedar surge
2s got surgical augmentation while 3s got chemical augmentation that were safer
inner basin
Anyways, the IIIs may’ve had a broadened gene pool compared to the IIs but that still doesn’t mean they don’t slay. If you even just read the articles on Halopedia of Operation: Prometheus and Operation: Torpedo you’ll find that they put up one helluva fight, and even against insurmountable odds, to the last man, they completed their objectives. Just a shame though. ONI could’ve deployed them more strategically and there might not have been as many losses
versed helm
some 3s had some special drugs in them that allowed them to be almost immune to pain during moments of extreme stress
we see that with carter when he gets those wounds in the pelican and takes his helmet off
inner basin
Carter didn’t get those illegal brain augmentations. It was the Gamma Spartan-IIIs that got the brain augmentations that allowed them to endure pain beyond normal levels and still be calm. There also was a side effect where they could start to go crazy without taking what colloquially was known as “Smoothers”
versed helm
i knew about the smoothers but i didnt know about that carter didnt have them
inner basin
Yeah, the Alpha and Beta Spartan-IIIs were normally augmented (so to speak). It was Kurt that was drove to include the illegal brain augmentations with the Gammas after the loss of both the previous Spartan-III companies
versed helm
i read ghosts of onyx the other day so i knew that not all the 3s had the augmentations but someone told me that carter was part of the illegal brain augmentations
inner basin
Well whoever told you that was either lying or just factually incorrect themselves
But if you read GoO I don’t know how you couldn’t conclude to that yourself
versed helm
it never specifically says "carter had illegal brain augmentations" or he didnt
no S-III went through physical aug
we are talking about the illegal brain augmentations some S-IIIs had
ahh
i think you mean the aggressive drugs
yh whatever
the ones that reduced fear and supercharged them with adrenaline
the ones that make them almost impervious to pain and agressive and what not
yh that
thats still chemical dude
it altered brain structure, but it was still chemical.
i was referring to them as drugs and chemicals or whatever
but beastsprayz seems to know more lore than me
and he/she was reffering to them as brain augmetations
the augmentation was chemically induced
if you go up you can see me say "special drugs"
and beast say "illegal brain augmentaions"
im not tryna start an argument beast
i can see you typing
inner basin
I call them brain augmentations because they effect the brain
There’s nothing else to it than that
slow igloo
good thing I never seemed to care about the human side of lore lol
inner basin
I think the human side is the best side. Also the most expansive
versed helm
flood forerunner human covenant
slow igloo
always been drawn to Covie/Alien side. Normally whatever isnt human. Gears of War, Halo, Mass Effect. First it was Covenant and all its races and now Im die hard Banished
versed helm
i just love halo
slow igloo
same
versed helm
i dont know loads about each side
halo is the good stuff
i know a little bit about each side
just general halo knowledge
inner basin
Well two of my favourite pieces of lore S-III and ODST are from the human side, so that’s why it’s my favourite side. I do like other pieces of lore, but I have preferences (as previously mentioned)
slow igloo
im ok when it comes to UNSC/Human side. All about the alien races. Like to think Im some what of a scribe
versed helm
odst are better than spartans change my mind
slow igloo
oof
versed helm
4s are just glorified helljumpers
slow igloo
117 at like age 14
versed helm
bro im 14
inner basin
odst are better than spartans change my mind
Headhunters
versed helm
yh i know they exsist but i dont know much about them
slow igloo
John clapped like 3/4 ODSTs while he was a teen I think
versed helm
we need the silent shadow in halo infinte
slow igloo
but def still cool
versed helm
yh john killed must of them
inner basin
yh i know they exsist but i dont know much about them
No one does. The mystery is the best part
slow igloo
Rookie brings a tear to my eye everytime
versed helm
hes dead fam
slow igloo
that and knowing how the team splits up
inner basin
He had a promising future. I felt like apart of me dead when I read it
slow igloo
I mean do they really tho? I know they DO... But DO they really?
versed helm
it feels kinda bs the way they come back together like the UEG would just let him walk free
inner basin
That’s not my main issue with it. The UEG has Cortana’s Guardians to worry about
It was how Dutch and Gretchen are also magically Spartans who happen to be on the SAME Spartan facility at the exact right time to save Buck
versed helm
also buck says" i agree if we where still fighting the front we should keep him in a prison cell"
so what happens when unsc wins(if they win) the front will turn on the unsc
so they will chuck hi back in a prison cell
mickey*
slow igloo
Still gotta answer for them crimes
Ok... is it murder to kill a different species? Like would it even be considered murder?
or just a killing
versed helm
the thing is the whole of bad blood feels like plot convienience
murder if you're at peace with those aliens
slow igloo
"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another."
slow igloo
hmm
versed helm
cause, rn, humans and the SoS are allies
slow igloo
So what about Atriox and the Banished on the Ark, pre-Spirit of Fire? Would that be conidered murder?
versed helm
nope
the banished and the covenant are both factions that have made their dislike of humans clear
inner basin
The Banished don’t dislike humanity. They just kill anybody who stands in the way of their goals and ideals. Humanity doesn’t necessarily do that, unless humanity makes it so. Such as the SoF forces at the Ark for example
The Covenant on the other hand are religious fanatics, and when the Prophets found out that humanity’s existence makes their Religion a lie, they wanted them eradicated to cover it up. Although some of these views have been dropped by some (if not most) Covenant splinter factions some do still believe in the Great Journey
dusty ledge
Atriox's right hand man Decimus in the HW2 Phoenix Logs says he still secretly harbors a belief in the forerunners' divinity.
Does the Banish promote against this or are they indifferent?
harsh hatch
haven't really read any of the comics before, where's a good place to start?
i'm down for anything lore wise
inner basin
@harsh hatch Start in release order. That’s most peoples rule of thumb
That way you appreciate a returning character for example
Atriox's right hand man Decimus in the HW2 Phoenix Logs says he still secretly harbors a belief in the forerunners' divinity.
Does the Banish promote against this or are they indifferent?
@dusty ledge I’d say indifferent. Besides Forerunner divinity is quite different from believing the Great Journey etc.
harsh hatch
ahhh nice, i'll do that then 🙂 thank you
inner basin
Np man
harsh hatch
Playing halo reach legendary again and i never realised that Jorge never knew that Halsey was still alive
He sees ONI getting destroyed from orbit and think she's dead
I kinda wonder if that made him feel even more helpless and made him guarentee that he would sacrifice himself
craggy sierra
How was ONI even destroyed?
It seemed pretty in-tact when we went back to it.
So much so that finishing the job was the cover for why we got sent back there to begin with
stiff creek
Well it's not like it could resist any more invasion.
inner basin
What do you mean Banished messed em up?
So what do y'all think happened to the spartan-III Gauntlet, Red and Echo Teams? I've got many theories about this but I want to hear what some of you think.
P.S I'm aware there was a Spartan-II Red Team during the Fall of Reach, but this is a Spartan-III Team mentioned in the game
humble yacht
dead, distributed among Spartan IV fireteams, or some combination
inner basin
Very optimistic as always. Anyone else want to pitch in?
limpid kernel
I think they escaped reach in space banshees
inner basin
That is plausible. But where would they get the Space Banshees?
vague scroll
I think they're dead
otherwise they got off the planet with civilian transports they were escorting maybe
terse lava
well the way I see it there are 3 options. 1, they're dead, 2. they're dead, or 3. They're dead
random pilot
was there some time when chief was offered the admiral rank and he refused? seem to recall that from somewhere but cant find it
humble yacht
in Escalation, Lord Hood told chief he could be admiral if he asked for it
and chief said that "The Admiral" didn't have as good a ring to it as "The Master Chief"
random pilot
oh a novel
humble yacht
comic
inner basin
well the way I see it there are 3 options. 1, they're dead, 2. they're dead, or 3. They're dead
Well you're forgetting Spartan-IIIs that fought on Reach and survived. One notable Spartan is Jun, but I could swear I read that there was another. I have Kevin-A282 on my mind but I think he was heading back to Earth during that time
random pilot
Web results
Halo: Escalation - Novel - Halopedia, the Halo wiki
www.halopedia.org › Halo:_Escalation
Halo: Escalation is a comic book series produced by Dark Horse Comics. ```not sure why novel is in there but okay
obsidian thistle
We'll be fixing that
obsidian thistle
*Its more an issue with how we are fixing some stuff up than an intentional or obvious mistake
humble yacht
If escalation hadn't been a serialized in multiple issues then one could be forgiven for labeling it a graphic novel
obsidian thistle
Us at Halopedia even have a plan to treat each "arc" (not Ark even though that would be a obvious joke) in it as its own story.
Issue 7 be in that weird spot lol
And the first two arcs never got actual names... so we annoyingly need to use temporary names till/if 343i name em.
But going back to the issue we'll be getting it fixed shortly. :) (google just may be a bit to catch up)
*Issue fixed bts on the wiki (again google may take a wee bit to cache it though) @humble yacht @random pilot :)
random pilot
oh cool halopedia staff
obsidian thistle
😎
inner basin
I still, and will always, strongly dislike The Next 72 Hours arc. There's just too many silly decisions that happened in the writing process (imo). It had so much potential too which makes it even worse
obsidian thistle
It had a lotta good in it also.
It causing the mystery of Gamma Halos location being a huge biggie
You dont just do that and never have a plan for it ;)
inner basin
I know people like it, but everytime I see it, I throw up a little
All the wasted potential is so upsetting. Luckily I haven't hated an arc as much since
... actually scratch that. The Janus Key and Absolute Record arcs were also botched and could've led to something greater
I guess the latter half of Halo Escalation just wasn't my cup of tea lol
obsidian thistle
I view Escalations like this
terse lava
Much as I hate it, the Absolutr Record/key arc was bound for the ending we got. How are you going to work in that humanity, or Jul, gets a literal map of every single piece of forerunner tech
obsidian thistle
It tied a lotta loose threads together into a narrative that can be picked up later. While also creating some unique threads born off that new string.
As Renegades proved. The Absolute Record thread is not over yet
It just isnt ready to be plucked yet
vague scroll
we could have been let down a bit more gently @terse lava
maybe say that while it was out of reach for the Spartan Ops cast, ONI still pursued a missing Janus Key. Kind of like the teleporting artifact in Halo: Spartan Strike
terse lava
We are halo fans, there is no gently for us
vague scroll
maybe Cortana could have been pulling the strings behind the disappearance of the Janus Key, that is if the storyline had been figured up to that point in that time
which of course it wasn't
inner basin
I mean I think Escalation made the way most people few Spartans Ops worse. Some casual or hardcore fans who don't venture into the lore, have no idea how we got from H4 Spartan Ops - Halo 5
terse lava
So much waste...
vague scroll
well, I think the reason why we got Escalation and not Spartan Ops 2 was simply that interest in Halo 4 and post-launch content was simply at an all time low
in terms of resources, at least in theory, it just wasn't there to continue investment
terse lava
Wish they had hinted at something towards Cortana. Coming back. Or mentioned the guardians in those comics
humble yacht
certainly would have been a better connection to H5
obsidian thistle
The only thing that really semi-connects Escalations and Halo 5 atm is "Hunt the Signal". But thats more of a "Halsey was tracking a signal prior to her kidnapping" and "she had contact with humanity".
And also noting the creation of a Mjolnir disabling device. But thats a minor factiod.
And its unfortunately not accessible as that ARG was there only for the duration of the ARG then it was gone :/
Its a shame "Transmission 003" was cut cause that makes the narrative cleaner.
(not gonna lie. I dislike heavily thats out only major thing tieing the narrative together. But it does mean that Halsey has a way to find Kamchatka before Halo 5.)
In another side tangent. This also explains how the UNSC/ONI were "semi" prepped in HtT Season 2 for the Guardians.
Not enough to stop them. But enough to know something was gonna happen
spiral jewel
That's probably why Halsey seemed genuinely frightened at certain points during the campaign for H5
Or at least one reason
marsh tusk
Can someone help clear up what exactly happened at the end of Halo: Primordium? I just finished listening to it (and of course I can go back and re-listen) but I am really confused what exactly Guilty spark did there with the ship or people in it?
humble yacht
Guilty Spark uploaded his consciousness into the ship's computer. then he put the crew to sleep
he then started searching for the Librarian
marsh tusk
thanks
west silo
Basically go to sleep or I kill u
humble yacht
no, not really
west silo
Am pretty sure he made an entire monologue to them while the captain started saying how they should have left him on the ark
marsh tusk
Ye i was just confused what was going on
versed helm
spark hijacked the ace of spades forced people into cryo
west silo
I was more confused with the lady that was revealed to be a ghost
spark hijacked the ace of spades forced people into cryo
@versed helm
No the Rubicon
west silo
The didacts children in some way
west silo
It was pretty sad
west silo
Ghost kids
versed helm
war sphinx babies
cedar surge
In the landfall trailer,why did they have to get a special gun off the ground, drive to a specific location to find where the master chief is going. Couldn't have they put it on a pelican or have a marine in a aircraft do it?
humble yacht
i don't think they thought very hard about how Landfall fit into the overall narrative
they just wanted to make something that looked cool
cedar surge
But its canon right
humble yacht
i guess
west silo
Just change it from day to night
cedar surge
Or different timezones because not all of earth is going to be at the same time of day
humble yacht
it wouldn't be a timezone thing
something that close to the surface would be visible in a different time zone, certainly not one far enough away to be a different time of day
cedar surge
I don't really know how you could explain the inconsistency. Maybe chief just took a long time to land
Oh wait
Those marines flight pretty well against the brutes
Though I don't know why the covenant would only send brutes to attack a,mine? Radio?
They couldn't have known that the marines were looking for the master chief at that location
Or why didn't those banshees shoot down the pelican
So did earth have any ODPs left by the end of halo 3?
last anchor
They had plenty. Problem was, the Covenant slipspaced in right under them and its almost impossible to turn an ODP around like that.
So they were still there and Hood was still operating the fight from the Cairo. But they werent super useful.
Mind you the Covenant didnt have much in the line of teeth left by that point either. The Great Schism and High Charity's fall saw to that.
If ships weren't fleeing on their own directive, getting slagged by former allies, nommed by the Covenant or just outright BLOWING UP...well.
What was left went to Earth and ran havoc.
humble yacht
some ships just chilled out elsewhere, none the wiser
last anchor
Yeah. Covenant space is big.
I know an entire Sangheili allied fleet was toasted first at the colony that got NOVA's and then at Onyx when the planet broke up.
full forge
Calm down Wendell. Your microchip is melting.
west silo
Question when was the rookie born
inner basin
@west silo 9th February 2525
west silo
So right at the beginning of the war
and he pretty much dies right as it ended. Thats kinda sad
Thanks by the way
fair hazel
After
terse lava
I honestly wouldnt be shocked if there are still covenant star systems non the wiser on the schism, until the guardians popped up
west silo
Warfleet did say that the covenant would lose track of entire planets for decades so who knows
terse lava
Yep
cedar surge
Oh hey just like the imperium of man
terse lava
But better
cedar surge
If the covenant can forget entire star systems does that mean humanity could just make camps in those systems?
Like they make a hidden base
terse lava
They would still have to deal with any defense fleets and the covenant inhabitants
inner basin
Surely the remnants of some of those places can't be hard for humanity to clear. NOTE: I said some, not all
versed helm
whitch halo game where the most humans murdered by flood in?
anyone?
😦
: (
marines report for duty!
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gilded mason
Might be CE.
gilded mason
Though it was only one basically depleted city.
versed helm
Lore wise it was all of ancient human plus modern humanity combined
gilded mason
Hm?
inner basin
Lore wise it was all of ancient human plus modern humanity combined
We're talking about which game where humans were most infected/killed by the Flood in, and I'm probably gonna go with Halo 2 (if we're gonna be including the IAC crew/complement). They lost a lot of people but I don't think they lost everyone (minus the main characters). I think it's possible some were out on other missions (like perhaps specialist ODSTs) at the time the IAC was being taken over by the Flood thus preventhing them from dying to the Flood. How would they've escaped the ring though? Well it's not entirely impossible to think that Miranda/Johnson tried to radio all allied forces to rendezvous so they can head back to Earth along with the Arbiter. One thing I can't remember though is how they get back to Earth after the Battle of Installation-05. Do they board one of the other UNSC ships that followed them through the slipspace portal?
Also wow. I really went on a tangent lol
west silo
Naw ce the PoA had more people
gilded mason
The Autumn had 2200 aboard and In Amber Clad had 514 onboard
marsh tusk
Small crew
inner basin
But not all of the Autumn was infected. I'd say plenty died aboard the ship before crash landing and by skirmishes with the Covenant prior to even encountering the Flood
gilded mason
Small-ish ship
marsh tusk
I think PoA likely had more infected
inner basin
Well if we're talking death at the hands of the Flood (the main question), I disagree
gilded mason
I get ya, Beast. Since IAC only had a few groups of marines on Delta Halo + Regret, that means the rest most likely bit it to the Flood.
Though now the only question is how many of the crew of the Autumn died to non-Flood
inner basin
I'd say a lot actually died by Melissa aboard the T&R
Ofc she was doing what was best for humanity, but a lot of good Marines/ODSTs died for that all because of Silva's arrogance
marsh tusk
Now that I think about it I’m pretty sure cortana says how not many forces have survived the crash landings from the lifeboats so maybe barely any UNSC were left by the time the flood got released. Also most flood you come across are elites too
I'd say a lot actually died by Melissa aboard the T&R
Who’s Melissa?
obsidian thistle
Hmmm infact heres a good question
Or suggestion
Wanna read some Halo books. 😎
You can find out in Halo: The Flood!
inner basin
Wagon, First Lieutenant Melissa McKay was an ODST aboard the PoA. When she was interviewing the partially infected Wallace Jenkins she learned that the Flood were hiding themselves on the lower levels of the T&R and so to stop Major Silva taking it to Earth she set of grenades severing the fibre optic connection to the reactor bridge to destroy the ship and the Flood abaord
obsidian thistle
*aww I was gonna suggest them to read a pretty interesting Halo book <\3
inner basin
It is still an awesome book that has more than that question to offer answers to
Such as the partially infected Jenkins
Also John's near infection experience too
cedar surge
Hwy guys did you know in halo 3 there was a unifected dead odst. Either meaning he died on impact when the IAC crashed or he survived high charity and died
inner basin
The IAC wasn't in Halo 3
Oh wait after reading the rest of it I think you just made a typo. In Halo 2 I'm assuming is what you were meant to say
gilded mason
I think he's talking about the Halo 3 level, Cortana
obsidian thistle
Ah the uninfected things in High Charity
The Brutes if I recall got explained in Halo Envoy
So some could presume some ODST went into High Charity for some reason also
Maybe to try and stop said Brutes xD
inner basin
But how would the ODSTs get in to HC? The IAC was always down close to Delta Halo and I doubt a Pelican would be able to make it past the escort Fleet pre-schism. I mean they could have a Pelican left around after the IAC was infected and were following Miranda and Johnson's IFF tags
inner basin
That actually would make more sense lol
obsidian thistle
;)
inner basin
Tbf it's getting late for me. I think that's a fair excuse
terse lava
@obsidian thistle the covenant in the infected high charity were explained?
obsidian thistle
Essentially after High Charity crashed. A Brute ship just decided to raid it and got a -redacted- and left xD
terse lava
Where was this shown?
obsidian thistle
Legendary Crate Data Drop #5
Halo Envoy
terse lava
I thought that was a relic in the ark itself, not one on high charity
obsidian thistle
It was on High Charity. Described as a "reserve weapon the Prophets had planned for the final attack on humanity"
delicate notch
HP? Halopedia?
terse lava
Yep
delicate notch
Or Halo Potter
Harry Potter in a sci-fi setting would be cool.
Where the level of technology seems more like magic than magic does.
terse lava
Curious but ok
inner basin
Where the level of technology seems more like magic than magic does.
I think you mean NeUrAl PhYsIcS
delicate notch
I never understood the "ToDdLEr tYpINg"-meme.
fair hazel
no memes
versed helm
Correct me if Im wrong but the Prometheans never invaded earth correct? The composer only composed the humans of new pheonix
Spartan Strike has me questioning my knowledge
cedar surge
Oh the prometheans have attacked earth
Once if you count the new Phoenix incident. Twice with the portals on earth
terse lava
3 times if you wanna throw in the human-forerunner wars
lethal comet
Why wasn't Noble 6 included in the Reach war memorial
cedar surge
War memorial?
I don't think the public knew much about the Spartan IIIs
The 2s got most of the spotlight
unique rune
I mean.
The memorial features A259, A266, A239, and B320, so... that wouldn’t really explain it.
Now.
As far as the general public was concerned, there was no Spartan-II or Spartan-III, just Spartans.
The specifics weren’t made public, so all that most people really knew was that Spartans existed and were really good at killing Covies.
There’s not any specific canonical reason B312 is excluded from the memorial statue but it’s really just a result of Bungie intending him as a self-insert customizable player character.
cedar surge
Wait so they know about Spartan IVs right? Couldn't they draw the conclusions there was 3 other generations?
Like I Remeber that the public specifically new about Spartan IVs
unique rune
They know about Spartan-IVs, but I don’t recall if it’s ever made clear if them being called Spartan-IVs is like a public thing
Not to mention there wouldn’t really be any way for the general public to differentiate between II and III
cedar surge
You may be a 2,3 or even 4
but your all the same in the meat grinder of war
limpid kernel
After all, Jorge was a 2 but still in reach armor
heady void
yo, if the ring went off in halo 1, who would it kill? what were they close to? not earth right?
thin elk
So Jorge's armor was different from the rest of Noble Team?
gilded mason
Alpha Halo was the closest Halo to Earth, and every other known spcies
thin elk
Halo's fire range was massive
slow igloo
I know its like x mount of lightyears
gilded mason
He wore Mark V, just like the rest of them
thin elk
Wouldn't have the activation started a chain reaction?
@cedar surge I suppose so, at least from what I saw in videos today.
heady void
so if any ring goes off, the entire universe is doomed?
thin elk
thx Ostral
gilded mason
Actually, there's some weird conflicting info. Hm.
slow igloo
But I just watched Installation00's Precursor theory. And wow. Its pretty crazy. Would def recommend everyone to give it a watch
frank copper
Correct me if I’m wrong but if Halo goes off the entire galaxy is nuked
unique rune
Wouldn't have the activation started a chain reaction?
It would have, yeah.
Unless something’s gone very wrong, one ring firing will set the rest off in sequence.
heady void
do u guys think they will keep making new rings? since the ark is still a thing
cedar surge
It will if one is damaged or broken
unique rune
Only if more rings are irreparably damaged.
heady void
wouldnt it already be working again on alpha halo?
cedar surge
What if one got infected by the flood
slow igloo
think one is always one standby. or atleast its always ready to make one
thin elk
Correct me if I’m wrong but if Halo goes off the entire galaxy is nuked
@frank copper Like that, but only killing specific beings that flood is feeding on
cedar surge
Yea when three ended the ark was making another one
heady void
but they destroyed that one by firing it prematurely, so is it serving up a new batch again?
unique rune
wouldnt it already be working again on alpha halo?
The second replacement for Alpha was already finished in 2559.
slow igloo
it was ready by the ending of hw2
heady void
we going back to the ark in infinite boys?
thin elk
What if one got infected by the flood
@cedar surge The Halo array probably works without 1 or 2, the minor installations were supposed to be only 6
heady void
wait Delta Halo did get infected by flood for like thousands of years right
gilded mason
@thin elk
Actually, just noticed the Visual Guide says he wore a modified Mark IV. So ¯_(ツ)_/¯
thin elk
BTW, when the Primordial talks about humans, it is like it is Primordial's wish, or it is just telling some inevitable consequence of the forerunner-flood war?
@thin elk
Actually, just noticed the Visual Guide says he wore a modified Mark IV. So ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@gilded mason the other's wore Mark IV as well, didn't they?
gilded mason
Nah, the rest of Noble wore Mark V[B]