#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 353

fair hazel Jul 7, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Do they come from this universe?

modern rose Jul 7, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Precursos came from other universe or this universe?

jagged parcel Jul 7, 2020, 5:08 PM

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are the flood capable of building new weapons and space ships or do they need to infect a space ship

feral perch Jul 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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They infect spaceships

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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flood don't build their own tech, they take it from others

feral perch Jul 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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They don’t generally build any non-organic structures

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Although they are theoretically capable of it

fair hazel Jul 7, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I don’t know. I’m proposing. There’s so much we don’t know. So much that could be.

jagged parcel Jul 7, 2020, 5:11 PM

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so if they technicaly are trapped on a planet if there is no space ship

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 5:11 PM

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that's why they couldn't leave I05

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until the covenant went there with humanity

jagged parcel Jul 7, 2020, 5:13 PM

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are there more factions in halo then just humans covernent and the ones who wanted to kill ancient humans

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 5:13 PM

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depends on what you mean by faction

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not all humans are one faction, not all covenant are one faction (anymore)

jagged parcel Jul 7, 2020, 5:14 PM

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I mean like that they are/were just „these 3 factions“

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 5:15 PM

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there are many factions but the games tend to focus on only a few at a time

jagged parcel Jul 7, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Sorry I mean are there factions with species which we didnt saw on the UNSC and The covernent

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 5:17 PM

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i don't undertand what you're asking

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are you asking about species or military factions?

stiff creek Jul 7, 2020, 5:17 PM

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There are a bunch of factions.

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The UNSC, a bunch of little Covenants, the Forerunners even though they aren't around.

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The Flood, I guess.

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The Banished bois.

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Insurrectionists.

jagged parcel Jul 7, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I mean The UNSC has Humans 1 species, the covernent has like 12 species or so . Is there a faction in the now time with a species that isnt one of 13 or so that we already know

stiff creek Jul 7, 2020, 5:19 PM

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There are some species of Covenant we haven't seen in game.

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 5:19 PM

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no

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there are no known factions with unknown species

stiff creek Jul 7, 2020, 5:20 PM

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^

jagged parcel Jul 7, 2020, 5:21 PM

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aww I hoped there would be a faction with a new species

unique rune Jul 7, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I’d prefer they flesh out some of the ones we already have instead of introduce new species

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 5:22 PM

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i mean, by definition a "new" species doesn't exist until it's written

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could they add new species to the covenant? sure

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but we wouldn't know until it happened

limpid meadow Jul 7, 2020, 5:26 PM

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there are no known factions with unknown species
Technically there is: The Covenant Fringe. Made up on untold unknown species.

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 5:33 PM

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potential unknown

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until it's known it's unknown

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I wouldn't mind more fringe, hopefully better then humanoid fish people

gilded mason Jul 7, 2020, 5:36 PM

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343 should redesign the Yonhet to look similar to DnD's sahuagin.

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Now that would be 👌

obsidian thistle Jul 7, 2020, 5:38 PM

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There is numerous mystery aliens 😉

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Which even if they are not in a group would on paper be considered a "faction".

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I actually wonder what criteria there is for a species not being worthy of serving in the covenant military

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Population of only millions?

grave swift Jul 7, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Probably depends on your niche. Grunts breed quick, therefore cannon fodder. Elites are skilled in combat, therefore they command. The Yonhet are skilled at sniffing out Forerunner stuff, so you probably don't want to waste them on the military and risk death.

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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True but it was stated that they were stuck as signatories of the covenant rather then full membership due to a low population

grave swift Jul 7, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Could be a variety of factors. For the Yonhet, they have a small population and specialized skill. Could even be they want to restrict their upward mobility in case it presents a threat to the Prophets. After all, who would you follow? Some frail dudes in chairs or someone actually attuned to the tech of the gods?

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Fair point

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Don't think its ever stated how they can do that is it?

opaque heart Jul 7, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I remember in the books, the Forerunner trilogy. That there were 2 different kinds of humans (Not male and female) One was shorter then the other.

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I think they were called Florians?

floral bone Jul 7, 2020, 6:00 PM

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isnt that a german name? lol

limpid meadow Jul 7, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Florians, aka Homo Floresiensis, which were 1 of 4 main Human species.

opaque heart Jul 7, 2020, 6:02 PM

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There's more then just Florians?

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Yes

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 6:04 PM

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midiflorians

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Miniflorians

craggy sierra Jul 7, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I literally read that as floridians

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Floria Man Wrestles Flood Gator

craggy sierra Jul 7, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Florida Man is the apex of human evolution in Halo lore

limpid meadow Jul 7, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Homo Sapiens, Homo Floresiensis, Homo Neanderthalensis, and one other

opaque heart Jul 7, 2020, 6:05 PM

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That actually sounds more like a Forerunner name then a news article

stiff creek Jul 7, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Erectus.

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Homo Erectus.

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 6:59 PM

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tashi

limpid meadow Jul 7, 2020, 7:00 PM

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I don't think the 4th sub-species was ever identified.

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 7:01 PM

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The one 343 found?

past prawn Jul 7, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Anyone know the name of the orb thing the didact was in

carmine sleet Jul 7, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Cryptum

limpid meadow Jul 7, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Specifically a Combat Cryptum.

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Always wondered if each rate had their own equivalent of a cryptum

last anchor Jul 7, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I think so.

limpid meadow Jul 7, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I don't believe they do. While associated most with Warrior-Servants, Cryptums have been used by other rates.

jolly furnace Jul 7, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Human species in Forerunner Saga - At least 20 at one point - homo sapiens, Florians, Neanderthals, Denosovians among others

vale pendant Jul 7, 2020, 9:31 PM

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I always get confused at this Halo 2 e3 scene. Is this a city build into the sky, having multiple layers or?

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https://imgur.com/a/YYfDdjG

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Because in the gameplay afterward you dont really see it reflected back that well

carmine sleet Jul 7, 2020, 9:33 PM

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The E3 Demo for Halo 2 isn't canon

vale pendant Jul 7, 2020, 9:33 PM

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i know

jolly furnace Jul 7, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I think its called a sky city

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Or a hook city

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and I think the concept is mentioned in canon somehwere

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Think it only re appeared in origins

jolly furnace Jul 7, 2020, 9:36 PM

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It did but those visuals are canonically dubious

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given its Cortana's imagination

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based off incomplete info and her own ideas

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But I do think the concept is mentioned in dialogue in a book somewhere

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in canon

vale pendant Jul 7, 2020, 9:37 PM

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another question. The design of the assult carrier and CCS ships

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where those elite design ?

jolly furnace Jul 7, 2020, 9:37 PM

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I dunno

vale pendant Jul 7, 2020, 9:37 PM

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because after halo 3 you dont see the assault carrier anymore

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I always liked the front design

jolly furnace Jul 7, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Most Covie design was due to San Shyuum preference to my knowledge

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The curved elegant purple organic look at least

carmine sleet Jul 7, 2020, 9:39 PM

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because after halo 3 you dont see the assault carrier anymore
We see them in Reach and then later a single one in Halo Wars 2

vale pendant Jul 7, 2020, 9:39 PM

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oh i ment in lore wise

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halo 3 is the last time. Halo 4 only had the CCS

feral perch Jul 7, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Games are part of the lore

vale pendant Jul 7, 2020, 9:39 PM

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and halo 5 had such different ships

carmine sleet Jul 7, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Halo Wars 2 is set after Halo 5

vale pendant Jul 7, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Not even a CCS I noticed in halo 5

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Oh right i forgot!

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my bad

carmine sleet Jul 7, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Most of the ships seen in Halo 5 are old Sangheili ships

feral perch Jul 7, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Aren’t they blockade runners or am I thinking of another science fiction series?

carmine sleet Jul 7, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Some are blockade runners

vale pendant Jul 7, 2020, 9:43 PM

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so i did some reading

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you have the assault carrier

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but also the super carrier in halo reach

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but they look the same?

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Are they the same and did bungie just use a different name?

tame belfry Jul 7, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Becuase rendering is hard

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And the xbox was a potato

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A very good potato, nice and buttery

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But a potato all the same

feral perch Jul 7, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Bungie literally just upscaled the CAS to make the CSO

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Covenant ships pretty much shared designs from san shyuum and sangheili. While mostly san shyuum in the looks and curves, the overall shape and design harkens back to sangheili vessels where were built to resemble aquatic creatures

wheat quest Jul 7, 2020, 10:06 PM

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So... why did the assault rifle disappear for halo 2?

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This has been on my mind for a while

carmine sleet Jul 7, 2020, 10:07 PM

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There isn't a lore reason

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The reason it wasn't in the game was because Bungie wanted the rifle to feel like a rifle instead of an SMG and the pistol to feel like a pistol instead of a rifle. This led to the Battle Rifle being created and the Magnum becoming what it is in Halo 2. The SMG was made as the automatic human weapon of the game

past prawn Jul 7, 2020, 10:08 PM

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The real question

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What is the nipple?

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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The food nipple? 2 variants, a personal and communal. Just a bottle with a long nipple

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Has it even been explained?

terse lava Jul 7, 2020, 10:27 PM

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In what regard? It's just a form of ration for unggoy

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Though apparently it smells like old cheese wrapped in sweaty socks. And unggoy themselves find it unappetizing but very nutritious

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I was asking if it has a general explanation.

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

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The food nipple? Yea, it’s how the covenant fed the grunts

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I know that, but I was wondering if it had a detailed explanation. It was always relatively left ambiguous in the games. I remember a Deacon talking about it in CH though.

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Ado’s explanation is about as detailed as you can be with this thing

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What, you want to know the shape of it?

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Oh.

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No, not at all. I was just wondering what it contained.

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By the way, do the Huragok need food to function too?

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Nah

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They’re not actually biological

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Well, fuel then? They must have an energy source, they can't just float around on nothing.

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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That’s exactly what they do

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Oh.

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Well, obviously they’re filled with a gas and that’s what let’s them float

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Yes.

tame belfry Jul 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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They're jellyfish

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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So they don't even absorb light or anything?

delicate notch Jul 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Zeppelin Sci-Snake

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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When they feel like making more they all get together and use pieces of themselves and other raw material to make a new one

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The new one’s personality is a combination of all it’s parents

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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This sounds very juvenile in design, to be honest.

tame belfry Jul 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Anglerfish would like a word

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Yeah, and their names are earned from a defining trait they have. Like "Drifts Randomly".

delicate notch Jul 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Any jellyfish in the world too

tame belfry Jul 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Bungie came up with all kinds of weird sexual procreations in their games

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I don't think they apply to this, Chimera said that they physically construct them.

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:37 PM

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They need an atmosphere, they can’t live in space

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I shouldn't be surprised when they were created by a race who managed to harden light itself.

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:38 PM

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They die if they lose their gas

delicate notch Jul 7, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Sounds like any cowboy in the west w/o beans

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Sounds like they need it to live.

tame belfry Jul 7, 2020, 10:38 PM

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so hurogok can die by a fart?

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That sounds reasonable

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Sloths die if they eat too much

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:39 PM

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They wouldn’t fart

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:39 PM

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What if they live through motion? I know that sounds dumb but it could be a possibility.

delicate notch Jul 7, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Why not?

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Because they don’t eat

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If they lose their gas it’s due to injury. And I imagine they can’t survive space because their inner gas would expand in the vacuum and they’d explode

delicate notch Jul 7, 2020, 10:40 PM

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So they only fart when they die?

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Like a saltwater fish in freshwater

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Oh, so it's just a case of it being a component.

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Necessary component. The gas mixture is apparently the most important part of their creation

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:41 PM

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But that also implies it needs to breathe that methane in, like a fuel source.

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Or gas, since it's not specified I presume?

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:44 PM

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The mixture is not described

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We only know it’s lighter than air

delicate notch Jul 7, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Can only be lighter than air by a percent or less

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Or #Up

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Earth's air I presume?

delicate notch Jul 7, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Some air

humble yacht Jul 7, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Not just earth’s air

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Would have to be lighter than whatever air is on the planet they exist

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Or maybe they can only exist on certain worlds. It’s not clear

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At this point I’m just reading halopedia articles for y’all so y’all read them yourself postums

delicate notch Jul 7, 2020, 10:47 PM

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100%

versed helm Jul 7, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Sorry, Chimera. I'll make sure to just look at them myself from now on.

spiral jewel Jul 8, 2020, 1:29 AM

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What's the difference between Mjolnir and SPI?

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 1:30 AM

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SPI is semi powered and designed for stealth

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MJOLNIR is fully powered and designed for... well, not stealth

spiral jewel Jul 8, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Ah

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 2:16 AM

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SPI’s the more fragile, more expendable version of MJOLNIR - often not having energy shields or speed enhancements

worldly skiff Jul 8, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Hey I have something to contribute to the lore channel!

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Flood is bad

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That’s it

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Thank you

lethal comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:12 AM

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nice

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:14 AM

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nice

cedar surge Jul 8, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Did Spartans and to a lesser extent humanity become apart of the covenant religion

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Like how Spartans are demons

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 3:20 AM

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I think it was just an insult.

jolly furnace Jul 8, 2020, 3:35 AM

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An insult for sure but one with a modicum of respect

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Lol

cedar surge Jul 8, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Odsts called imps

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:55 AM

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cedar surge Jul 8, 2020, 5:21 AM

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E
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Did elites ever respect or loathe odsts?

calm zinc Jul 8, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Just finished halo 3, blew up the halo, but The Flood is still alive in halo infinite?

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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We don't know if the Flood will be in Infinite but there are containment facilities on the other rings in the galaxy. Unlikely anyone is going to try opening any of them though

cedar surge Jul 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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@calm zinc they were still alive in HW2

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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And spartan teams have engaged in fighting flood in containment breaches

stiff creek Jul 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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apparently

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Indeed

stiff creek Jul 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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d

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Thanks

stiff creek Jul 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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No Bob, prob

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I wonder where tho

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:09 AM

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How does a Neural Interface work? Is it just a UI for your brain?

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Like, if I was looking at this right now I would have some kine if interface

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https://www.halopedia.org/Neural_interface#:~:text=The neural interface is implanted,lace should the need arise.

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@versed helm

limpid patio Jul 8, 2020, 10:07 AM

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The primordial needs to be in infinite or referenced

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Or i will be sad

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 10:09 AM

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What would the Primordial, a being that's already been killed, bring to the game's story?

limpid patio Jul 8, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Infinite is based on the planet the primordial was on, its a super gravemind you could say but being dead it could still be referenced at least to acknowledge it existed on that planet or something

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Infinite isn't taking place on a planet, it's taking place on a Halo

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The Primordial isn't a super gravemind

limpid patio Jul 8, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Infinite is based on the ring it was on

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 AM

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That's not confirmed, there's hints, yes, but it's not confirmed to be Zeta Halo outright

limpid patio Jul 8, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Lemme quickly dig out something

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 11:04 AM

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I'd prefer it if Mendicant Bias is finally featured (properly) in a game.

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 11:18 AM

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I'm still waiting for whatever Social Menace was going to dig out

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 11:23 AM

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Who?

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 11:32 AM

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The message right before yours, the person is called Social Menace

cyan thunder Jul 8, 2020, 11:57 AM

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The Primordial, also called the Captive or the Timeless One,[1] and the Beast by the Tudejsa,[2] was a mysterious being of great power once detained on Charum Hakkor, and supposedly the last surviving Precursor,[3] its physical form altered to survive enormous stretches of time.[4] While its body was ultimately destroyed, the Primordial would transfer its consciousness into the Gravemind, the Flood's compound intelligence, using the parasite as an instrument with which to exact its final vengeance on the Forerunners.

Taken from halopedia. So whilst not a grave mind, this does imply he became part of a grave mind....
I haven't read primordium, and I'm only about half way through Cryptum so im by no means knowledgable on the subject.

lethal comet Jul 8, 2020, 12:12 PM

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If you look at it like that then the gravemind in h2 and h3 is the primordial himself

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The primordial transferred his consciosness to the gravemind and all graveminds have a common intelligence and memory

cyan thunder Jul 8, 2020, 12:28 PM

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That's an interesting way of looking at it

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Oh, I see, Slip.

cedar surge Jul 8, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Do you guys think we will get look around levels again?

cyan thunder Jul 8, 2020, 2:00 PM

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What do you mean look around levels? Like the open worldness of ODST?

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 2:01 PM

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I think they mean the walk and talk missions from Halo 5

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:31 PM

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I don’t want to jinx but i am not the only one worried that they are gonna kill blue team and the arbiter abs infinity off screen before infinite’s plot begins ! What the likelihood of that @humble yacht

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If they kill arbiter off screen I will uninstall and no investment in the future of halo

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:32 PM

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they wont.

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the chances are pretty low of that happening, thankfully.

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:32 PM

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They have a bad habit of major events happening out of game

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I will remain hopeful that doesn’t happen

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:33 PM

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well, they have changed.

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Agreed halo wars 2 for the most part showed me not all hope was lost plus the infinite mega toys have renewed my hope

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But I am still cautiously optimistic

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Have a nice day

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I don’t want to jinx but i am not the only one worried that they are gonna kill blue team and the arbiter abs infinity off screen before infinite’s plot begins ! What the likelihood of that
For Arbiter, it they know it would make people mad if they killed him off screen. Infinity being destroyed off screen too would be bad

unique rune Jul 8, 2020, 2:38 PM

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They have a bad habit of major events happening out of game
I mean I really wouldn't call it a bad habit since it was mostly just a brief period of haphazardly killing plot threads in Escalation for a little bit.

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 2:40 PM

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As for Blue Team, while many were disappointed over how they were handled, killing them off would not be the right thing to do. Same goes for Osiris, they weren't handled all that great in Halo 5 but killing them is not the way to deal with them

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:41 PM

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mhm

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and id imagine there would be a whole lotta backlash.

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I mean I really wouldn't call it a bad habit since it was mostly just a brief period of haphazardly killing plot threads in Escalation for a little bit.

this.

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Fair enough

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For me

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Osiris with the exception of buck

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I wouldnt care if 343 killed them

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Red team don’t kill

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Palmer don’t care if killed

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Arbiter and blue team don’t kill

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Infinity I have conflicted feelings if that thing gets blown up ?

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:44 PM

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i dont see why you wouldnt have a problem with osiris and palmer being killed off-screen

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Because I don’t like them

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:45 PM

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and why is that?

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:45 PM

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This is based on games

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Locke was too boring

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Vale was too much of a self insert for my likening

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Tanaka has so little character I can hardly describe her

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And Palmer is a you know what

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Those are my reasons

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As for infinity

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:46 PM

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well i mean, halo 5 on its own is terrible. but that does not men the characters themselves are bad.

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Vale was a self insert?

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Who was she a self insert for?

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Elite nerd girl

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Right, that doesn't mean she was someone's self insert

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:46 PM

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I know

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She just reminded me of those types of charges

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Characters

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:47 PM

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thats like saying chief is a bad character because of how he was portayed in halo 5.

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:47 PM

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God I hate typing on mobile

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Fair enough

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I just don’t want Osiris getting front seat again in the plot

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Which it looks like that is the case

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:47 PM

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that is not happening.

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:47 PM

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I know

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I really love brohammer so far

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Can’t wait to see more of him

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Those are my thoughts

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Which it looks like that is the case
So if you know that they're not going to be front and center of the plot, why say that it looks to be the case when they've literally said they aren't?

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:49 PM

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let it go slip

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thats probably not what he meant

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I ment to say

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It looks like Osiris will be sidelined

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That’s what I meant

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 2:50 PM

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heh, id be surprised if they are in the game for more than a small section.

analog perch Jul 8, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Yup

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Be well

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Have a nice day I have a lot to do

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Lmao, it would be beneficial if they redeemed them, but I wouldn't care if they weren't in the game. I think that will be the outcome too.

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:08 PM

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infinity is likely to be there sooo

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Ah yes, assumptions, so reliable.

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:12 PM

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like

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assumptions and theories are all we have at the moment

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 3:14 PM

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I'd find it odd if Infinity didn't show up

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:14 PM

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No, I don't think that speculating and assuming is a good idea.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 3:15 PM

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it's fine as long as you establish it's speculation

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:16 PM

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I don't think it's healthy though, because you could develop this theory that might raise your hopes up. Only for it to be disproved in the final game, which would leave you disappointed.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 3:17 PM

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then no one would be thinking about it

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all you can do is imagine what it could be

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and what you hope it to be

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:17 PM

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i find it to be better than doing nothing especially when i have all that lore stuffed inside my head.

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:17 PM

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That's bad for 343i, but I think it's beneficial for the community.

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:18 PM

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mhm

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i dont think its bad for 343i though

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they have an engaging community that actually cares about the franchise sooo

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:19 PM

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I'm just afraid that the people who echo YouTubers' opinions will be disappointed. In a situation where they didn't even think for themselves.

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:19 PM

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youtubers youtubers youtubers

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they truly are influencers.

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although i dont blame them.

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atleast not for sharing their opinions

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:20 PM

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It's a career, not a passion.

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That's why I dislike them.

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:20 PM

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im indifferent to most of them

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:24 PM

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I can understand why.

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:25 PM

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chiefmini

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 3:33 PM

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I would say that speculation is pretty healthy at this time. What else are we to do? Twiddle our thumbs?

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:36 PM

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You could do something productive but that's a rabbit hole I'd rather leave alone.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 3:37 PM

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by that logic we should be on discord at all

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we should all be out curing cancer or something

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Ok, that just reminded me of the Spider-Man comic where the villain refuses to cure cancer because they want to turn people into dinosaurs

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 3:39 PM

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I work for a living so I already have that covered. Besides speculation is half the fun of any setting

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Ah well, people think differently.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 3:40 PM

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The recent ones? Sounds like a plot out of the 90s cartoon

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 3:40 PM

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that sounds like The Lizard

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 3:40 PM

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It does

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Not sure if the link will work

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https://external-preview.redd.it/UA9MBzefZW65xmNDkYGKjv2PIZmIofJg5ZkV_t_FuN0.jpg?auto=webp&s=912db2eb2827e312d946f1442ac972e976d19179

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Ok, it works

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Well I mean Delete, this room pretty much exists for that. And whenever someone asks a question, that's what they are doing

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:42 PM

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That quote is hilarious.

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And no, people mostly ask questions for clarification of information.

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 3:43 PM

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I've speculated in here before

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:44 PM

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It's why I said "mostly".

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Well people will be disappointed by Infinite for one reason or another. It cant please every single fan. No halo game has

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I know.

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 3:46 PM

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No game in general has pleased everyone

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:50 PM

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i am speculating 24/7

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 3:52 PM

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I hope you enjoy the game.

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 3:52 PM

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same

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 3:56 PM

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I will wait and see. I like halo 4's story, hated mp, though disliked halo 5's story and mp

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So not holding my breath

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 4:00 PM

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I'm just waiting, that's all.

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Nothing else to it.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 4:00 PM

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That's fine

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Maybe that flying halo 3 skull will give me some good entertainment in the meantime whenever it gets released

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I don't think there is anything wrong with doing that anyway.

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Caboose, which Halo game is your favourite?

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 4:02 PM

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3

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 4:02 PM

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2 here, so many memories

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I see, but you're also a big fan of Forerunners, yes?

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Yes, H2 is also my favourite too.

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 4:04 PM

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i am a big fan of the halo universe as a whole but yeah the forerunner era is what fascinates me the most.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Good choice

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 4:04 PM

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easily

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Who is your favourite Monitor?

round comet Jul 8, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Tragic Solitude and then comes guilty spark

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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I need to look into Tragic Solitude.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 4:16 PM

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he wasn't all that tragic

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 4:18 PM

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He was with his backstory revealed

light kiln Jul 8, 2020, 4:19 PM

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If we can ask questions here, sorry to interrupt.
A friend and I were having a discussion whether an S3 would ever reproduce. We couldn't reach an agreement or an actual answer, so I'm asking here if you all knew.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 4:19 PM

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they could if they wanted to

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 4:20 PM

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As far as I know, there's no known S-IIIs who have reproduced but given that we've seen an S-II have a kid, I think it's possible for an S-III to reproduce

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Yea I see no real reason a s3 couldnt.

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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I thought they couldn't because they had vasectomies performed?

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Talking about the S2 here.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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i don't think that was included in their procedures

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def not the S2s

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Ah, then I'm mistaken.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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people often confuse the reduced libido with sterilization

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 4:23 PM

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What's the actual process then? If you don't mind explaining it, that is.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 4:23 PM

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there is no specific process

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it's a side effect of the augs

light kiln Jul 8, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Thank you so much for the quick answers!

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 4:24 PM

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And just a possible side effect, at that.

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Ah, thanks, Chimera.

calm sparrow Jul 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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How hard is ODST Legendary?

cedar surge Jul 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Yes

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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It's fairly easy.

rain oriole Jul 8, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Does anyone know if the infected flood forms (humans, sangheili etc) completely lose their mind to the flood or is a part of them still there, sitting backseat and watching what their body is doing?

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 5:30 PM

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In 99% of flood infections, the host dies from the transformation and their mind is absorbed into the hive mind

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Occasionally, when a pod infector is compromised somehow, the infection won’t be complete. Pvt. Jenkins is the only example we have of a person whose mind did not get added to the flood and remained as a passenger in their own infected body

rain oriole Jul 8, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I thought so, just wondered if there was anything alongside the hivemind, which itself is an insane concept. Thanks!

slim thorn Jul 8, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Actually not only Jenkins but also Captain Keyes. Starving the Pod Infector to the point where the infection did not go well also happens. Captain Keyes was infected and taken into Proto-Gravemind but were still able to maintain its mind of thinking until it absorbs him completely. Same goes to Jenkins where in one occasion, he regain his senses.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Keyes was a different scenario

slim thorn Jul 8, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Is it? I think it was same since Keyes can still give orders to Master Chief to retreat.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 5:52 PM

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For one thing, we don’t know at what point keyes’s infection began

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There’s also the fact that he was taken to be part of the proto gravemind, rather than just a combat form

slim thorn Jul 8, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Yes, but it needs him to be temporarily transformed first or at least injected with flood biomass.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I’m just saying that how the flood assimilates someone intended to contribute to the gravemind is different

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Keyes fought by his strength of will, it’s not like his infection process was faulty

slim thorn Jul 8, 2020, 6:01 PM

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If I'm looking at his body closely in the gameplay, he was not even fully transformed into the Combat Form. I mean, the left arm even doesn't changed significantly.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 6:03 PM

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The novel The Flood apparently goes into his transformation more in depth

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 6:12 PM

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HW2 also seems to confirm that there more times when an infected host is stuck as a passenger in their body

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I ways figured they are trapped there until the combat form is killed, and then fully absorbed into the local hivemind

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 6:34 PM

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What do they even do to you when fully absorbed into the Gravemind?

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Your body is part of the large, fleshy mass

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I'm talking mentally.

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Either your consciousness is destroyed or kept in an eternal torment.

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Depends on what the Gravemind decides.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 7:03 PM

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The gravemind described the minds in it as being in constant torment

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Man

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Is Better Locke or Chief

grave swift Jul 8, 2020, 7:24 PM

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It did pull up the memories of an alien species and made Cortana experience that torture

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Because Locke Is the newer, but he Is a 4 gen Spartan, that Is veey worst than 2gen like chief

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?> Is Better Locke or Chief
@torn elbow

grave swift Jul 8, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Depends. Chief and Locke fought once and he held his own. However, he had the armor restraint and showed that Locke at least knew he probably wouldn't win a straight on, prolonged fight.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Eh

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If locke and Chief fight together maybe win Chief

grave swift Jul 8, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I wouldn't grant him a victory just because he is a II, however.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Depends. Chief and Locke fought once and he held his own. However, he had the armor restraint and showed that Locke at least knew he probably wouldn't win a straight on, prolonged fight.
@grave swift
Is nosense because locke's weight Is about 200kg and Chief Is 450kg

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Uh

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That’s false

grave swift Jul 8, 2020, 7:30 PM

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We saw their fight in Halo 5. Locke did okay for himself until Chief wrestled the armor restraint and won.

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Besides, even if that were the case, lighter opponents have beaten larger ones

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:33 PM

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who does have the bigger and stronger Fleet the UNSC or the covernent

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as of right now

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Jul's Covenant is now gone, so probably not theirs.

grave swift Jul 8, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I'd probably still say the remnants of the Covenant. It was a large empire. All its assets did not just vanish

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:34 PM

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SoS's could be bigger, but we basically know nothing about their fleet sizes

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 7:34 PM

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If the remnants combined, maybe

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But I don’t think any one remnant has a bigger fleet that the UNSC. Well, before earth fell at least

grave swift Jul 8, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Combied? Yes. Individually, I'd agree it's probably not quite UNSC strength.

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Do remember, considering the Covenant previously controlled several thousand systems, the assets out there would also be large. And considering all the consolidation that the SoS has been doing, it's a good possibility.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:38 PM

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wait if Atriox was such a threat to the Covenant then why didnt use their complete force to crush him

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Because he wasn't that big of a threat. More of a nuisance.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:38 PM

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He wasnt much of a threat

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They.sent enforcers after him, that was about it

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I always thought that he would have actualy threaten the Covenant by showing that you can fight against them and win

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Nope

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He was just some small time annoyance to them

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:40 PM

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well good to know

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Heck he wasnt the first to rebel anyway

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Ussa 'Xellus went against the Covenant when it formed

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I thought he was the first rebel to stay up against the covanent and survive

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Mhm

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:42 PM

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is that wrong ?

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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No Ussa survived

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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hmm now I know something against Ussa also good

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Against?

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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no I am happy when I found something new in Halo

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:45 PM

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And the way Atriox survived for the couple years he was active during the Covenant was by doing hit and run tactics on things like supply depots. So he was basically like a mosquitoe. Annoying and hard to hit, but also only that: annoying.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:46 PM

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ok did Ussa do the same thing or did he do an actual war against the covanent

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:46 PM

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One thing I hated about Isabel. Hyped up Atriox as if he was some rival to the covenant

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Reagrding that, Ado

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Thats why I had to asked if atriox was a threat

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Not a threat to their existence but enough of a threat to keep some of their attention off of humanity

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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One theory somebody said was that since Decimus was Atriox hypeman, always exaggerating Atriox's exploits, when Deci slaughtered Isabel's scientist team, he did the same thing to them, including her.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Ussa simply protested and recruited against the covenant. He never really raided

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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So Isabel, as a simple civilian AI, took it as fact.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I believe that Ostral

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Well, not "simple", but y'know.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Well also the "in the Covenant's 1000 year history"

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Kinda shows her ignorance

gusty star Jul 8, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Humanity most likely isn’t aware of how old the Covenant truly was, judging by that statement. Thus, her remark on Atriox.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Indeed

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Yeah I was always confused if he could declared war on the covanent why didnt he do or they attack him . Isabelle really confused me

obsidian thistle Jul 8, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Or it was her just saying stuff to explain easier to the SoF.

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AIs do have a habbit for the dramatic

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Sadly

gusty star Jul 8, 2020, 7:50 PM

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It’s possible, but the other theory is just as likely.

obsidian thistle Jul 8, 2020, 7:50 PM

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One could assume that the actual records the SoF got actually went into real detail on the Banished and Covenant and so on.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 7:51 PM

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But do the food are totally died?

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:51 PM

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No. Flood pockets remain in places like research centers.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I mean

obsidian thistle Jul 8, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Yea Flood still exist. Really hard to wipe em out. Especially since we know of isolated pockets and even Flood forms jettisoned into space

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 7:53 PM

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the Forerunners could have

obsidian thistle Jul 8, 2020, 7:53 PM

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*The latter essentially confirms that the Flood will remain for a really long time.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Atm I dont rec all any chucked into space. Outside of carrier forms to act as boarding parties

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:56 PM

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is there something after the forming of a Gravemind

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Gravemind is the peak of the Flood.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:57 PM

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so the Gravemind still grows but after a gravemind there is nothing

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Yes.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:58 PM

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is there a limit how massive a gravemind can become

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 7:59 PM

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A key mind, while now a term for all thinking compound minds, in the forerunner era it applied to graveminds which had consumed entire planets

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 7:59 PM

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or can they grow infinite in size if they have enough food

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:00 PM

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The gravemind’s size is a limit of available biomass

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Would wanna say yes and no. Yes in that, as every flood form is part of a gravemind by that level, one could argue it can keep growing. However the main "body" of a gravemind would be limited by the world it is on

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Once all the biomass on the world is consumed, that's it

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:02 PM

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theoraticaly if you would be somehow able to keep sending biomass to the Gravemind would it keep growing or just stop because of the planet

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:02 PM

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it becomes the planet

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smelly meatball of a planet

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:03 PM

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imagine finding a planet just to realise that it lives

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:03 PM

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if biomass were brought from other worlds to this meatball planet, then it could still grow, hypothetically

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I dont think the flood would ever do such a thing without an actual purpose for doing so

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:03 PM

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that is extremly interesting and disgusting at the same time

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:03 PM

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At that point it would be just adding layers. No point in that

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:04 PM

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it would be putting all of it's eggs in one basket, and by eggs, I mean intelligence

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:04 PM

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It can just go infect another world and make a new gravemind

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Which thanks to the hivemind, would also be it

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:05 PM

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in short: can the flood make a planet sized gravemind?

Yes.

Would the flood do it?

Not without a good reason to.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:05 PM

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the whole concept of flood is interesting and disgusting at the same time. when you think theres partly a real world thing to the flood

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Who misses the flood meat doors (apparently the scientific word for it is a nono)

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:07 PM

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meat doors?

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:07 PM

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first experience with the flood maps in Halo 3 was just saying "ewwwww" the whole time lol

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:07 PM

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so true

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:07 PM

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The flood would normally make a.planet size gravemind if they could

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:07 PM

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I guess they were called 'flood porta'

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:08 PM

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it would be interesting to see who the superior parasyte was the floo or the tyrannids

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:09 PM

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pretty sure flood would consume the tyrannids, but I dont know enough about them to make that call

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:09 PM

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I could help you with the tyrannids partly

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Yea the flood are faster.at consuming then the tyranids

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Takes the bugs a.couple weeks to eat a planet barren. Takes the flood mere hours

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:11 PM

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the question for me is since both the flood and the tyrannids constantly adept. Would the tyrannids just evolve into something flood proof or the flood into a tyrannid destroyer

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:12 PM

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They cant

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Takes the bugs a.couple weeks to eat a planet barren. Takes the flood mere hours
@terse lava considering that they fight space marines its atleast I think fast

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:12 PM

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They are biological

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Not really it is not fast at all

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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so long as you are made of food, then you are food for the flood

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hence why the prometheans exist

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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They can corrupt technology.

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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that too

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Yeah

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Plus, Prometheans are piloted by composed people.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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I know its dumb but technicaly the orks from 40k can actualy erradicate the flood

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:14 PM

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They cant either

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:14 PM

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They can just imagine that they're immune. @jagged parcel

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:14 PM

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But the 'floodificaton" Is fast, 'cause un Halo 3 the died soldiers became flood in a while

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:14 PM

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cross universe hypotheticals are kind of dumb

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Only thing that can would be stupid crazy tech, or chaos

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Eh they are fun if both universes are similar enough

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:14 PM

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They can just imagine that they're immune. @jagged parcel
@versed helm wasnt it like that if enough of them think that they are then its actualy going to happen cause I am not sure

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Warhammer is too different from halo for fair comparisons

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:15 PM

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But Hight Carity Is an Enormous flood ,

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:15 PM

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No, the root of Orks' power is their imagination. So they can just imagine that they're immune and it would work.

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:15 PM

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that's 100% bad writing

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Yup.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Lol, is it any worse than neural physics?

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:16 PM

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so they are technicaly overpowered

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:16 PM

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It's how their vehicles work, they just imagine that it works.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I wish that would work in real life

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:16 PM

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It's very juvenile.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:16 PM

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what does juvenile mean my english isnt very good

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:16 PM

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that's about as stupid as the character design of superman

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Childish.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:17 PM

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its warhammer tbh

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:17 PM

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No, Warhammer is not very childish in general.

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I see it as a bigger version of Halo.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:17 PM

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I didnt meant that it was childish I meant the thing that spear said

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Oh, my mistake sorry.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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On the one Hand warhammer is logical on the other hand you have the orks

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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The writing for the other factions is more logical.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Do sistema Iron Maiden?

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Like there's a lot of science behind their technology.

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For the humans anyway.

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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getting off subject lol

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Okay.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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yeah but the orks are not scientific at all it triggers me a bit atleast their technology

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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They could just imagine that their vehicles protect them from the Flood.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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lol

torn narwhal Jul 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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schoolyard rules, I see

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Now, imagine the Flood taking control of their "imagination".

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They could just imagine that they can infect technology.

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“That seems really boring”

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:21 PM

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But they CAN infect technology

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:21 PM

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what would happen if the orks imagine they cant be affected but an ork flood imagined that they could

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:21 PM

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It depends on the technology

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:21 PM

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probably the orks would still be immune cause the flood hasnt got enough orks

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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They can infect AIs and such with the logic plague but vehicles and stuff are merely covered in muscles and nerves created and controlled by their biomass allowing them to operate said vehicles

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Queation is Master Chief stronger then Lock or did he had luck that Lock made him angery or are they equal

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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WHAT do a ork Is?

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Queation is Master Chief stronger then Lock or did he had luck that Lock made him angery or are they equal
@jagged parcel
CHIEF Is better

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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They can infect AIs and such with the logic plague but vehicles and stuff are merely covered in muscles and nerves created and controlled by their biomass allowing them to operate said vehicles
@versed helm Ork technology just works because they think it does

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Gen2 Spartan are the BETTER

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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proof?

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I was responding to the other dude :3

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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srry

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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More stringer, intelligente and heavy

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Heavy can be sometimes bad

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:24 PM

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And I agree with him, gen2s are objectively more effective

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But they’re extremely immoral

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Heavy can be sometimes bad
@jagged parcel
Yeah but he Is vhief

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But they’re extremely immoral
@versed helm
Yes but Chief Is immoral

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But he Is veey depresse dor te vortana's die in Halo 4

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I mean like if you would let 1000 gen2 spartans fight against 1000 gen4 would it be a pattern that most of the time gen2 would win or would it be more inconsistent

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:26 PM

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what is this engrish

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:26 PM

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what is this engrish
@feral perch srry my english is bad

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Man the gen 4 Is the Better in the fact that they are more

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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sorry mods

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:(

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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But gen 2 are 13 spartan

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And anyone dies

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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what

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what does that mean

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Not sure what's going on in here now

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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So Vhief Is the last i guess

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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But you said 1000 of each

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:27 PM

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but in this scenario there are 1000 gen2 and 1000 gen4. Its theoretical

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Who is “Vhief?”

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Not sure what's going on in here now
@terse lava
Talking bouth Which gen Is better

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Are you using Gen 2 in reference to the Mjolnir armour or in reference to the S-IIs?

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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And the gen2s would win every time even if they were at a clear disadvantage

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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There is no GEN4 Mjolnir

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There are Spartan-IVs

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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That would depends, 2s have more discipline and experience then 4s.

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Are you using Gen 2 in reference to the Mjolnir armour or in reference to the S-IIs?
@carmine sleet both in this scenario

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Lol I confused everyone sorry

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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But gen2 were veey painful and Dangerous about the training

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I meant second generation of Spartans not the armor

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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both in this scenario
Didn't need to tag me and I'm still confused. Are you talking about the Spartans themselves or the armour they're wearing

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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There is no gen 4 armor

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I tagged you ?

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oops

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srry

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Read the book THE FALL OF THE REACH and Watch the HALO 4 INTRO

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There is no gen 4 armor
@versed helm
Yeah

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I watched the Halo4 intro so?

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I watched the Halo4 intro so?
@jagged parcel
Baby Chief suffer a lot

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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and?

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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and?
@jagged parcel
They were made for kill human

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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I know still isnt an answer to the question

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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HE WAS KIDNAPPED AT THE AGE OF SIX AND PUMPED FULL OF EXPERIMENTAL CHEMICALS AND TURNED INTO A SUPER SOLDIER, HALF OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES DIED DURING THIS PROCESS

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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There is Mjolnir Mark IV. Marks and Generations are two distinct things.

terse lava Jul 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Easy on the caps Froth

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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There is Mjolnir Mark IV. Marks and Generations are two distinct things.
@feral perch
GENERATION ARE FOR SPARTANS

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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That chief was kidnapped and turned into a super soldier is also not an answer

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Also for Mjolnir.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Stacker Is a gen1

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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There’s GEN1, 2 and now 3 Mjolnir

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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No

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Yes

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Chief used mjolnir mk6

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Yes.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Mark VI GEN1

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Mjolnir Mark VI is Gen1

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Ok no, mijolnir is gen1

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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No i guess

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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(Pre Halo 5)

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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GEN1 and GEN2 Mark VI MOD.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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There’s also a Mark VI GEN2

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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No

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I hate my phone’s autocorrect

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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There are several models of MJOLNIR GEN2

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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CQB and EVA are mods

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Chief’s 4/5 armor is Mark VI Mod

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Every spartan IV wears GEN2 armor

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Gen2 armor looks like le poopoo

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Yeah

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Gen2 armor looks like le poopoo
@versed helm
Very true

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Stacker Is a gen1
Stacker is definitely not a Spartan I

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Uh excuse me, Venator wants a word

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Shinobi and Prefect too

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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As does Icarus

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And Dynast tbh

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I’m pretty sure Stacker was actually part of the Orion project

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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no he wasn’t

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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But I could be wrong

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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And let's not forget about Recruit and Warrior

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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No record of stacker being Orion

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Is Icarus the fish bowl one?

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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No. And Recruit was done dirty by the name

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Alas, I confused stacker with the guy from legends... oops

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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The Better ARE MARK 1

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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It should be called something else

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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The Chief One Is the Better armor

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But in Halo 3

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In the 4 are ugly

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Lmao, "the 4".

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Meh

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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THE Halo 4.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Sorry I am a 14 yo italiana huy

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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the armors in 3 and 4 look both good

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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There were some sets from H4 that I liked.

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Seeeeeeeker armor~

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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No need to disclose your age, dude

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Chief has a nice booty in h4 ngl tho

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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the armors in 3 and 4 look both good
@jagged parcel
In infinite trailer are antastix

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Seeeeeeeker armor~
We speak not that name here, be gone!

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Seeker looks like a music concert as a helmet.

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It also wasn't in H4.

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Recluse is nice

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I like Air assault

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Classic and beauty

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Helioskrill tied for best Mjolnir with Mark V

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I'm sensing some bias here.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Also CQB are freaking beauty

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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No kiddin'? 😏

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Wearing helioskrill makes me sad because no one else wearing it earned the armor :(

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It's still a good armour set.

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Mark IV is and always will be the best looking Mjolnir

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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So we all look bad because the other people just walk around and LARP

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@versed helm I earned it from getting the Legend achievement too.

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Helioskrill tied for best Mjolnir with Mark V
Oh Helioskrill... How I wish they gave you to Vale...

feral perch Jul 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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missed opportunity

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I prefer classic CE Mark V, because of how power armorish it looks, but that’s just me @feral perch

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Mark V is another personal favourite of mine.

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Indeed Stone, the armour seems like it was basically made for Vale

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Mark 4 is pretty underrated too.

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Yeah, but on the downside, that armor would now be associated with Vale.

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Oof.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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The modding of armor in Halo 4 Is the second Better . The absolutely Better Is the REACH'S ONE

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Mark IV is pretty dang popular

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Why you gotta hate on Vale, Ostral, she's cool

gilded mason Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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nope she's smelly and i hate her

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Not in the game lol

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Is it, Chimera?

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Everyone and their mom is all up on Jerome

jagged parcel Jul 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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best spartan armor is for me emils

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Best version of the Scout helmet is the H4/5 one.

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I'm unsure about that, it's a bit of a blanket statement.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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ALSO EVA AND CQB ARE GREAT

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Oh, absolutely, Halo 3's was fine, Reach's was... Reach's... But Halo 4 and 5 turned Scout into something wonderful

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Scout was too angular for me.

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Also, Halo 3's EVA is the best looking EVA, you can't convince me otherwise

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Halo 4 Eva Is ugly

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I’m not a fan of having reach’s art style seemingly blanket infinite, it’s too military and not enough sci fi

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I like alo REACH Eva with the EMILE DRAW

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:43 PM

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You know, those toys don't really imply that every armour set will be from Reach.

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I certainly hope they don’t

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Some of Reach's armor returning is cool, hopefully joined by a lot of new stuff as well.

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But seeing as almost everything gets replaced with reach stuff, it hurts me really bad

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We already have GEN 3, which we have seen.

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I hope the toys don’t mean a lot of things for the game

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I’m not a fan of having reach’s art style seemingly blanket infinite, it’s too military and not enough sci fi
@versed helm
I like REACH because Is a game beauty but where the good are not the winner and, trying ti save each dies heroically

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I cried for the JORGE'DIE

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Mega Construx have been unreliable for portraying titles.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:46 PM

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Like some of the past sets portrayed the H3 Elites as enemies. The blind bags have had a mix of H3 characters and HW ones, so just sit tight.

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And get set...

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Let's not forget the Halo Reach Elephant set as well

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:46 PM

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For a combat drop!

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:46 PM

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THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE!!!!

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Very true, Tech.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:47 PM

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When u are the esplosion of the assault carrier with black home in Halo REACH:
THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE!!!!

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Also, nice one, Froth.

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Reach's Elephant, such an enigmatic creature.

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To this day, evidence of its existence is still in question.

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If Warner Bros. is bought out by MS, maybe we'll see Halo characters be featured in Injustice?

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Oh, then there's also some Halo 4 sets which featured Reach weapons like the Needle Rifle

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If Warner Bros. is bought out by MS, maybe we'll see Halo characters be featured in Injustice?
Are you referring to all of Warner Bros or just the gaming side of things?

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:49 PM

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MAN WHI BOUGHT HALO 2 PHISICAL EDITION?

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:49 PM

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The gaming side, sorry.

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:50 PM

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MAN WHO HAVE BOUGHT HALO 2 PHISICAL EDITION?

humble yacht Jul 8, 2020, 8:50 PM

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@torn elbow turn off your caps lock buddy

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:50 PM

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ok Sorry but Is veey important

carmine sleet Jul 8, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I have doubts that they'll buy them mainly due to Travellers Tales and the Lego Games. Unless they treat them similar to Minecraft, it'd be odd is Lego games suddenly became console exclusive to Xbox

torn elbow Jul 8, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I font khnow why they give 4 DISKS

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i use only 1

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Dosk

versed helm Jul 8, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Well, we'll see. Having Deathstroke up against Thel would be amazing.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 1:09 AM

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So the unsc is using what's left of the Phoenix class to make more colonies?

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 1:12 AM

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I've heard that those ships are used for starting colonies before I think

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Or I'm confused

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Idk

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Post war in not sure where a lot of ships went

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Suddenly we got newer ships and no mention of where older ones went

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:29 AM

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If thinking is not something you do much (like me) you could say they were used or destroyed :p

stiff creek Jul 9, 2020, 2:47 AM

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The Phoenix class were repurposed for combat, but we've only seen the Spirit of Fire.

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Not much on the others.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:15 AM

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The older ships must be in storage somewhere

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What confuses me is that the unsc fleet is in shambles but puts away older ships

craggy sierra Jul 9, 2020, 3:16 AM

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At which point in time?

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Do you guys think a slipspace capable submarine is possible?

craggy sierra Jul 9, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Cause we don’t really know to want degree everything’s been shambled in Infinite yet. I don’t think there’s been any material set during the created rule yet.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:18 AM

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I'm not sure if the created would destroy the ships being built over mars

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Or tribute

craggy sierra Jul 9, 2020, 3:19 AM

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I mostly don’t know which point in time you’re talking about the UNSC having new ships.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:40 AM

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At first I was talking about the transition to the post war era then you started with the created and we both got confused

craggy sierra Jul 9, 2020, 3:42 AM

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I don’t know if they were in disarray after the war.

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Probably in a period of recovery for sure but I don’t know about disarray.

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Disarray makes me think of being spread far too thin with flimsy lines of communication barely holding disparate groups together. Like what one would expect from say a sudden siege of all major worlds across the galaxy by giant robot owls.

knotty rune Jul 9, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Does any one think ODST’s will make an appearance in halo infinite or will spartan 4’s be the main assets used? The Spirt of Fire has them as a unit on board. I also think and hope to see them used within new campaign.

last anchor Jul 9, 2020, 4:39 AM

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We probably wont see the Spirit.

craggy sierra Jul 9, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Literally who cares about what skin they put on the friendly AI if we even have any.

knotty rune Jul 9, 2020, 4:43 AM

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True. I always like the idea of having a friendly presents, even though you are doing all the work.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Wonder if after the war a unsc admiral tried to become a warlord or something

finite pivot Jul 9, 2020, 5:57 AM

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I would love for them to bring back Lord Hood for Infinite

craggy sierra Jul 9, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Only on the condition he still have his H3 face

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/7/7c/Lordhoodhalo.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20131222173039

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 6:45 AM

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We havnt seen hood in a while have we

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How old would he be now?

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90s?

terse lava Jul 9, 2020, 6:55 AM

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69 by 2559

fair hazel Jul 9, 2020, 6:56 AM

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2561, if that's when infinite, 71 about

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Wasn't Johnson in his 70s and still looked good?

stiff creek Jul 9, 2020, 8:37 AM

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That's because of his augmentations as an ORION projectee.

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Spartan I, basically.

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Projectee?

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Subject.

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That's the word I meant.

fair hazel Jul 9, 2020, 8:43 AM

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Johnson was in cryo also a lot

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 8:47 AM

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How many years do you think he was in cryo-sleep for, Eric?

fair hazel Jul 9, 2020, 8:48 AM

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For most characters I don’t even know where to get s good estimate. I usually don’t even try to.

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 8:52 AM

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I can understand why.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Well if he fought for over 30 years he us going to get transported a lot

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So maybe he spent a year or 2 in cryo not counting before the war

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Would it be good for the unsc to capture covenant ships and put them in the navy?

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Use them for very specific missions but in general, they would be better for extracting technology from them.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Why not? The unsc needs some heavy firepower in their navy as they are rebuilding it

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 9:12 AM

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In the post war, much of the ship advancements came from reverse engineering Covenant and Forerunner tech

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Then you get the Infinity where they strapped Forerunner engines onto the thing

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 9:13 AM

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The Covenant would be very familiar with these ships, which they could exploit the UNSC's unfamiliarity with them.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 9:15 AM

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You would assume that the unsc would clear out the ship with odsts and Spartans before capturing it

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 9:16 AM

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They tried all sorts to try and capture ships during the war, most efforts were met with failure

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 9:18 AM

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At reach they had many Spartans and were planning to capture that CSO I think they could have done it

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They had 100s of millions of marines on the planet along with odsts

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Who were also defending the planet.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Well the attack at first was on a specific part of the planet

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So plenty of soldiers to spare

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Yeah but the massive waves fleets would have caused them to fail regardless, Reach's population of soldiers is still limited. They can only send so many expendable units before being depleted of their reserves.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 9:28 AM

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If only there were more ODPs at reach

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 9:32 AM

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I think Reach inhabited like 800 million UNSC personnel, remember, that also accounts for roles outside of the military.

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Should I read human weakness before halo 3?

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(Played reach 1 and 2)

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Yeah, you'll be fine.

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I can’t find It online tho anyone know where I can get it?

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I found the entire halo evolutions book do I have to search through that?

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And is halo evolutions worth reading? (Before halo 3) I might just buy it

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I believe that all of its stories take place before H3, except for The Return.

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@versed helm

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 10:02 AM

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If gravemind said that all ai previously he had absorbed except one which turned rampant, and cortana survived gravemind does that make cortana better than all previous ai? (I’ve only played reach, 1 and 2).

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Cortana is far from being better than any forerunner AI

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Cortana was speaking with the Gravemind for far less time than any of the Forerunner AI the Gravemind has spoken with

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 11:16 AM

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Would you actually eat Have S'Moa's Ground Pounder or Space Elevator burgers?

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Cause ngl,they look delicious

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Neither because I don't eat meat

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Has Andesia been taken over by Cortana yet?

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Wait what we seen those foods?

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 11:38 AM

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S'Moa Burgers are made using Moa, a bird native to Reach. It's highly likely that the Space Elevator Burgers are also made using meat

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Has Andesia been taken over by Cortana yet?
Unknown

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 11:41 AM

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Was Bad Blood the last book (chronologically) before Infinite?

main siren Jul 9, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Probably

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There's also Legacy of Onyx

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 11:46 AM

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When did that happen?

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Also,is Andesia an Inner Colony or Outer Colony?

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Legacy of Onyx takes place just before and concurrent to the events of Halo 5. Bad Blood is the last book before Infinite timeline-wise. The only thing set after Bad Blood we have is Halo Wars 2 and The Return

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Also,is Andesia an Inner Colony or Outer Colony?
Unknown

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 11:50 AM

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So the Banished are gonna be a part of Infinite?

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Yes, they were in a teaser two weeks ago which confirmed they're in the game and Mega Construx sets have shown off what they'll look like

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 11:52 AM

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So we'll probably fight Atriox?

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Not likely. The Banished are more than the forces we saw Atriox take to the Ark and given that he's stranded there for the time being, it's likely we'll see one of his many commanders in Halo Infinite, such as the Brute Hyperius that we see in one of the sets

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Ngl,i still get the feeling that the writers for Halo 5's story just wrote themselves into a corner

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If i recall correctly,i think the reason as to why they brought Cortana back to life and made her go all evil and they brought in the Guardians was because humanity was becoming too powerful,or that's what i heard

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 11:58 AM

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They did not create the Guardians and bring Cortana back and turn her evil because humanity was "too powerful"

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Well,what was the actual reason?

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 12:17 PM

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They haven't given us their "reason" for writing halo 5 the way they did. They've told us what they were going for

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 12:39 PM

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It might also be that some people wanted that "humanity is backed into a corner" story again

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 12:40 PM

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humanity has been backed into a corner in every game

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Maybe they brought that stuff to show that the prometheans and stuff are still a threat, and no matter what humanity has to keep fighting something, whether it be aliens, things, or themselves as that's just kinda how they are, and they seem to achieve victory in the end everytime. This could in a way just be a test of humanity :p

Although I don't know much so this is just coming outta my tired brain lol, so whatever

round comet Jul 9, 2020, 1:15 PM

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what

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no

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bringing the guardians back was by no means because of whatever you just typed

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Ik

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But I haven't slept so

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I said that

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What

round comet Jul 9, 2020, 1:22 PM

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jesus christ

terse lava Jul 9, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Well there is that precursor test at some point

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 2:32 PM

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i'd prefer if the test remained metaphorical rather than there being an actual test at some point

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:35 PM

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What

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Some people think the test is a full on flood invasion

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Oh

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 2:36 PM

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that would be quite disappointing

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Are there any Spartans who canonically wear the Helioskrill set?

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Anyway we had humanity backed into a corner every game

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Are there any Spartans who canonically wear the Helioskrill set?
Not yet (But Vale should've in Halo 5)

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Yeah, I remember you saying that.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Why is it so bad to not want to be the underdogs for the 5th time

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I want to see a focus on someone else who is not an underdog and happens to not be John 117.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Somebody even thinks that to continue the story of halo that the halo rings need to be fired again and kill everything

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Oh God, that is an awful idea.

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Why is it so bad to not want to be the underdogs for the 5th time
Because some people don't want things to move on

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Which would kill every character

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Yeah no, firing the rings is not the way to make things interesting

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Except for AI

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Yea you would have to wait hundreds of thousands of years to get any civilization

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So at most during that wait we get robot vs robot

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 2:40 PM

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What would be interesting would be a story about colonists on a remote suddenly disappearing and finding out that some new force is kidnapping them for some reason

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:40 PM

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We just need some spin-off games, if you ask me anyway.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:41 PM

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I wonder if the flood will come back

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:41 PM

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They said its not a if but when

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Oh

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:42 PM

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For the spin offs

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I hope not, the Flood would take over whatever plotline is happening already because they are such a big threat

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Oop

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Oh, when did they say that, Lance?

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 2:42 PM

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And yeah, there's no "when will the Flood return"

terse lava Jul 9, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Well the primordial himself gave a "due date" and what it likely entailed

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Yea they had their trilogy and DLC

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Maybe some cameos but I think the flood should be put away

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I've grown very tired of the Flood.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Ah

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Ah yes, I too have grown tired of the enemy I’ve not fought in over ten years xD

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We fought them in HW2.

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So, that's not exactly 10 years ago.

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 2:45 PM

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We've already explored as much as we can with the Flood naratively and there's little that can be done to change them that wouldn't completely ruin them since you can't change the one leading them or the goal of the leader. Unlike Covenant factions where you can have various leaders with different ideals and beliefs and can craft countless more stories from them

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:45 PM

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yEs BuT I wAsN’t On tHe GrOuNd FiGhtInG tHeM

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Yea no matter how many times you kill the grave mind if he comes back its the same one

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Okay, now you're being self aware about a point you made earlier, Froth.

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It’s not a very good point tbh, how I could not be self aware? xD

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:47 PM

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As cool as the flood are we got so much of them

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Books,comics,plotlines,sagas

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Seriously, I am sick of the Flood. It's one of the only factions people talk about, HiddenXperia is one of them.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Oh
I kinda see that now

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:48 PM

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I guess its because it isn't just another "space zombie"

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:48 PM

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It's not but they are in the games, lol.

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Get a shotgun and turn your brain off for 30 minutes.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Even playing the games I always am so relieved to see covenant after fighting the flood

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Idk I thought it was really cool(at least in CE) fighting an enemy that unlike the other factions, doesn’t use strategies but instead rushes the player most of the time changing the pace and flow of gameplay

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I used to avoid the flood levels/missions or whatever they are called

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Cortana is just as bad as some of the levels in H5 too.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:50 PM

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How

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Calista how did you do that

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Not play them

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:p

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Oh

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:50 PM

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You couldn't have finished the campaigns then.

round comet Jul 9, 2020, 2:50 PM

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when it comes to the flood there are only two base outcomes so no.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I didn't finish them uwu

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Oh dear.

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So you only played like half of CE?

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Either the flood wins or they win later or you anihlate everything

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Those are the only 3 options when it comes to the flood

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Recently I've been trying to beat each campaign tho, as stuff like silent hill and things made it way less scary

round comet Jul 9, 2020, 2:51 PM

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basically yes, lance.

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I can see how Silent Hill made it less scary, lmao.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Haha yep

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:52 PM

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If the flood get any significant foothold you have to throw the whole galaxy away

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Boring...

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Silent Hill nurse vs flood combat form, who wins

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I'm ok with prometheans replacing the flood

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:52 PM

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The combat form I'd say

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:53 PM

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I always viewed the monsters in SH as a figment of the protagonists' imaginations.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Combat form can just infect

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 2:53 PM

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actually, yeah, the nurses don't take much to bring down

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i don't think you can infect silent hill monsters

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:53 PM

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If the have cells and nervous system then yea they can

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Aren't the monsters supposed to look/appear different for each SH character?

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Yeah and they also keep re-appearing too (Pyramid Head).

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No, PH just throws that idea out of the window.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Oh yeah qwq

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Which annoys me, since I always viewed PH as James' guilt but we are going off-topic.

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 2:54 PM

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like you said, silent hill seems to bring the dark reaches of the imagination to life

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Same and yeah lol

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Hey guys do you think 343 will introduce a new alien faction with new aliens that arnt just a covenant remnant?

round comet Jul 9, 2020, 2:55 PM

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I'm ok with prometheans replacing the flood

their design should be changed. gameplay-wise atleast.

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Created, lol.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I don't call the created aliens

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I wonder what an emp would do to Cortana

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Anyone can join the Created.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Actually nvm I think I just answered that-

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 2:56 PM

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anyone can serve the created, you gotta be an AI to join the actual organization

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:56 PM

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A.I who killed millions of people to live forever and are now establishing a dictatorship

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:57 PM

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~~SkyNet.~~

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Lmao

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Hey guys you know those forerunner ships in HW1?

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Somebody said they might be guardians

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:58 PM

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I bet if Thel visited Silent Hill it would just be a crater of ash filled with distorted civilians.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Probably lol

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And I don't think the ships were guardians

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Guardians are not ships, aren't they sentient?

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 2:59 PM

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The ships in HW1 are definitely not Guardians

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 2:59 PM

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those ships were not guardians

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Somebody said they might be because they had they same general shape

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Okay, how?

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 3:00 PM

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they are not guardians, they are dreadnoughts

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Sojourner-class dreadnoughts to be precise

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 3:01 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/images/thumb/f/f0/HW16.png/1200px-HW16.png

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 3:01 PM

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To me guardians look like a bunch of floating living metal pieces that somehow do stuff

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Look nothing like Guardians to me.

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 3:01 PM

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the ships are just the hook looking things

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each tower has two ships

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I originally didn't even know those were ships lol

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:02 PM

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https://www.google.com/search?q=halo+guardian&client=ms-android-americamovil-us&prmd=isnv&sxsrf=ALeKk02lBQuKB-hqrZbncPs1Dr_FDSpjDg:1594306904526&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiO4tOFuMDqAhVsRN8KHYJdBaMQ_AUoAXoECBcQAQ&biw=360&bih=518&dpr=2#imgrc=Sjz4rkDWdLCH9M

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 3:02 PM

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No resemblance whatsoever.

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Somebody really said they look the same

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Except for the colour palette, lmao.

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 3:03 PM

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yeah well "someone" was wrong

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Don't like the guardians

humble yacht Jul 9, 2020, 3:03 PM

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postums

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:03 PM

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To many floaty bits

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I wish the Guardians looked more like the E3 2013 Guardian

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I agree

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:03 PM

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At some point floaty bits turn from cool to comical

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 3:04 PM

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What? The one with the pronounced wings?

I wish the Guardians looked more like the E3 2013 Guardian

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Remember when forerunner stuff looked ancient?

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Only aspect that looked ancient to me was the exterior of Forerunner architecture and that's because of weathering.

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 3:05 PM

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This bad boy. I love the design https://chiefcanuck.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/halo-xbox-one4.png?w=600

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Oh wait yeah

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:05 PM

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That head tho

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Looks like a metallic owl.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Well like, everything looked less shiny and new than in halo 4 and 5

carmine sleet Jul 9, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Well people did call it the space owl before we learnt what it was

versed helm Jul 9, 2020, 3:06 PM

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It looks more intimidating than the design we got.

little fulcrum Jul 9, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Yeah

cedar surge Jul 9, 2020, 3:07 PM

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The new one looks like you could just yoink a piece and retreat into slipspace