Just not in the way you'd expect
#lore-and-universe
obsidian thistle
jolly furnace
and can choose how long it takes too apparently
humble yacht
with the Sharquoi, the question becomes whether their forerunner modifications gave them resilience, or were they born with it
jolly furnace
Who knows
humble yacht
not halopedia
jolly furnace
I would think if Forerunners could modify a species to have flood resilience
they would have done it to themselves
humble yacht
engineers weren't suited for battle
feral drum
They are biological.
humble yacht
they aren't
they aren't comprised of the same materials we consider organic compounds
jolly furnace
they are nano-biological
versed helm
What are they made out of?
feral drum
Yeah, they can still be considered organics.
humble yacht
they don't have DNA
jolly furnace
Its organic but not quite like us i think
humble yacht
they don't eat or respirate
feral drum
Sort of like...how Cybertronians are biological, or can have biological traits
Depends on which canon
feral drum
Point is, the Engineers are life, just not carbon based
clever fable
On Forerunners modifying themselves for war against the Flood, the Promethean angle is an obvious one, but that whole idea obviously didn't pan out.
clever fable
Sure, not really what I'm on about though.
cedar surge
Didn't trillions of prometheans fought against the flood though? Doesn't that mean they worked?
humble yacht
they only gained immunity by giving up their biological forms
clever fable
Knights in particular, lance. I don't know if there were ever trillions.
humble yacht
i mean, the forerunners put up a decent fight for a while but ultimately it wasn't enough
clever fable
I'm talking in regards to another point a user made above, Chimera, about Forerunners trying to modify themselves for it. They didn't mention biological modifications strictly.
humble yacht
sure but that's seems to be the implied modification they were talking about
clever fable
The Knight idea is a good idea in theory. It just didn't work for a number of reasons.
jolly furnace
I dont think forerunners modified Sharquoi for flood resistance
clever fable
I'll agree to disagree there.
jolly furnace
I think it was forerunners discovering they were resistant that made the Forerunners use them as a weapon
humble yacht
well we may never know
hopefully that's not the case because then it presents an issue
cedar surge
So the infinity saved a supercarrier? When did that happen
jolly furnace
Huh?
humble yacht
did it save the Shadow of Intent?
cedar surge
Asking question to something from earlier
humble yacht
because the flood aren't supposed to be resisted
jolly furnace
Resistance doent mean you cant be infected
Flood has many ways
And even if it can't infect you, it'll kill you and convert your biomass via other ways
humble yacht
their wiki page only says they were resilient, so it's possible their "resistance" was not at the cellular level but something more macro
that, i could accept
jolly furnace
While evidently of natural origin, the Sharquoi were modified by the Forerunners to serve as shock troops against the Flood as they were found to have a curious resiliency against the parasite.
Resilience doesn't mean immune
Nor does resistance
Ultimately they didnt work
No plan the Forerunners used for flood immunity worked
humble yacht
all i'm saying is i don't want whatever "resistance" they had to be at the cellular level
clever fable
I wonder to what degree the resilience works, like is there a particular form of biomass that takes longer to convert, or is it strictly something that is more difficult to convert to a combat form
humble yacht
i'd like to think that the Flood's rate of cellular conversion is the same for all species
clever fable
Already breaks thermodynamics, so why not eh.
jolly furnace
The Flood maybe able to prolong infection if it wants
As it seemed to so with AH during the human-forerunner war in the early stages
clever fable
I thought prolonging infection was the whole start of it. With the space-dogs and what have you.
jolly furnace
Silentium mentioned human warriors being sick yet still fighting from Flood spores during the early part of the H-F war, before the Flood began its great retreat
It seems the Flood was infecting but deliberating slowing down how quick it happened
jolly furnace
Hmm
feral drum
I got a question
jolly furnace
Also those ODSTs in HW
humble yacht
pod infectors are the most efficient vector
jolly furnace
Ask
feral drum
Why doesn't Atriox call a truce with the Spirit of Fire when the Flood escaped?
feral drum
I mean, I get they hate each others guts, but even Atriox would know when a threat needs backup
humble yacht
he probably didn't learn about until it was almost over
well obviously backup wasn't needed
those two brutes managed to stop that outbreak with their limited forces
humble yacht
they stalled it long enough for sentinels to come and take over
feral drum
Yeah, and then we get the Floodlands map
humble yacht
the mp isn't canon in HW2
feral drum
Where the Flood advanced enough to suck the nutrients out of trees and the surrounding areas
Not to mention High Charity was the size of a moon, and that means....a ton of Flood pouring out of the Scarab blast.
humble yacht
the problem with that is high charity had been in the Halo pulse
jolly furnace
Question - arent all those brutes still at risk of infection in the ending due to all that flood spores and flood tainted air around tthem
which they are breathing in
humble yacht
you'd think so, but i guess not since they took off their masks
jolly furnace
Hmm
clever fable
Spores get handwaved a lot.
humble yacht
even smarty pants Atriox walked in with no protection
jolly furnace
Thats Alien Covenant level stupidty
Lets walk around with no masks on in flood infected enviroment
I guess energy shields were active
clever fable
How topical. lol
feral drum
Pretty sure the spores and infection forms kind of...erase that whole "Halo pulse"
They have no neural stuff the Halo array targets.
humble yacht
sure, the spores could survive but my issue overall with ATN is how fast the flood grew after that tiny hole opened
it's not explained will at all how the flood survived and to what capacity
humble yacht
like on one hand, you have a phoenix log that states the gravemind was burned away by the pulse. on the other, you have a giant protogravemind formed within days
chief made it through the portal before the pulse hit
clever fable
I feel like growing fast is part of the Flood shtick.
humble yacht
yeah but that was too fast
jolly furnace
Flood grows fast
humble yacht
in CE the flood didn't grow that fast
jolly furnace
I wanna know how enough survived a point blank Halo blast
humble yacht
so do i
clever fable
In CE we delt with some x amount of forms that were so old they give god itself a run for its money.
jolly furnace
Unless it was due to the Halo's incomplete state
humble yacht
but it's handwaved away so we can have flood again
jolly furnace
Also same issue with some forerunners in Maethrillian in Cryptum. They survived a point black OG Halo blast
Somehow.....
clever fable
Weren't they in a slipspace fractal?
carmine sleet
In CE we delt with some x amount of forms that were so old they give god itself a run for its money.
Almost all the forms in CE were made using UNSC and Covenant bodies the Flood got their hands on, they weren't ancient
clever fable
Same deal with cryptums, and shield worlds.
Slip, I'm talking about the infectors themselves. Ala Jenkins, if you recall.
jolly furnace
@clever fable they never say. Just that they found survivors in Lower levels of capital
humble yacht
only that one pod infector was too old to properly infect
carmine sleet
You weren't clear, Trad
clever fable
Not saying it's a clear cut case, just that it's something to consider.
jolly furnace
I assume slipsace was involved in their survival within the capial Triad
clever fable
Same.
jolly furnace
Yeah just checked
Just says survivors were found in the ruins of the Capital world.
clever fable
Have you checked Promises to Keep?
jolly furnace
Yeah
Doesnt say anything about slipspace stasis or bubbles or anything that would explain survival of those people
clever fable
Dunno where I got that from then.
The tech obviously exists, but I had figured there was a more direct line on it.
jolly furnace
I only assume slipspace was used to survive the pulse
humble yacht
apparently silentium says that forerunners deep within maethrillian were protected from teh halos
it's possible there was some limited safe zone, maybe in the form of a dyson sphere, we don't know
humble yacht
but it's not like the entire population was saved
jolly furnace
I know
but point blank halo pulse
I don;t think you should survive that
At least it should be explained
humble yacht
it should
jolly furnace
It just bugs me
humble yacht
i'm banking on some sort of slipspace bubble room or tiny shield room
clever fable
If you're in a fractal, disconnected from real-space to that extent, you should survive regardless of distance.
jolly furnace
Yeah like shunt a room in slipsace
HC yeah i can only assume it was cos Halo wasnt finished
Not a great excuse
but its all i have
humble yacht
i think frankie or grim offhandedly said on twitter something about unfinished halos not firing properly, but honestly i still don't buy it
i think they just didn't give much thought to the context of ATN in the greater universe and just looked for an excuse to bring the flood back
gilded mason
Same
jolly furnace
Hmm
clever fable
I mean I buy it if it's the only thing given, but only because there's not much of a choice there. Regardless of how much thought goes into it, it's not like we have much on the topic.
humble yacht
maybe "buy it" is the wrong wording
i don't accept it as good storytelling
that's better
grim's word is law, for better or worse. in this case, I find it to be worse
clever fable
That is fair.
versed helm
I can't see how the Flood are interesting to people, I find them to be very boring.
gilded inlet
He can't do that! Shoot him or something!
versed helm
Meh, I don't really share the same opinions with your typical fan.
gilded inlet
lol
versed helm
Do you like them, Rigged?
gilded inlet
personally i do
versed helm
I'd love to hear why.
gilded inlet
i mean
i just kinda do
i think they have an interesting history
and they are fun to fight
my personaly favorite to fight were in halo 3 though
strength in numbers and they just fall apart somewhat easily but they also have a new enemy type that a three-in-one with strengths and weaknesses
thats really it for me
versed helm
I personally disagree, but I respect that, Rigged.
gilded inlet
yeah i can see why people arent interested in them but it really does just boil down to preferences and opinions
versed helm
Of course, I was just interested in hearing them.
humble yacht
I preferred the flood before Greg bear gave them backstory
gilded inlet
i felt kinda meh about them as enemies but i got more interested after reading into the lore after my first time actually interacting with the terminals in Halo 3 and watching the first Halo Legends short
versed helm
I can see why.
gilded inlet
i hope that if they ever return, that the tall stalker flood thing from halo wars 2 is in the game
i know it was programmed into like halo 2 or something but it was scrapped
i think it would be a cool enemy if you could shoot parts of it off like a normal combat form
versed helm
I'm not a huge fan of tall bullet sponges myself, I have Destiny for that.
gilded inlet
lol
im not either but if it it got weaker once you shot critical points off then i would be down for it
so you can brute force it or you could be more planned out with how to take it out easier
anyways thats just an idea
versed helm
Just as long as the rubber banding isn't as bad as the bosses in Warzone, I'd be okay with it.
gilded inlet
i havent played halo 5 wz in so long that i literally dont remember experiencing that
but i believe i did sometimes
lmao
versed helm
Dude, there are instances where you get killed by the boss doing nothing.
No animations or anything, you just die.
gilded inlet
i think i remember now but idk
versed helm
It's best if you suppress those memories.
gilded inlet
lol
versed helm
Anyway, I think that we need a Covenant spinoff game but after 343i earn more attention from the fans. I think it would be too much of a risk to release such a niche game, given their current reputation.
Like, if they released this too soon, I don't think it would sell very well.
queen otter
Their current situation isn’t that bad. Unless if you are referring to Halo 5. Halo Wars 2 was a gem in a thorn bush after H5.
And a covenant spin off I would not be too fond of. The covenant now is basically a remnant of Juls remnant splinter faction unless someone has took to rule and has the covenant under control.
gusty star
There are many more Covenant remnants than that. And it doesn't need to take place post-Covenant War.
cedar surge
If they introduced a whole new faction not related to anyone we seen so far it would be cool. But probably unlikely
craggy sierra
Anyway, I think that we need a Covenant spinoff game but after 343i earn more attention from the fans. I think it would be too much of a risk to release such a niche game, given their current reputation.
People care a whole lot less than you think
Besides it’s not a fan think that would be stopping that as much as marketing
They get iffy about games that don’t feature human protagonists
cedar surge
Guess that's why the arbiter wasn't as popular when halo 2 came out
craggy sierra
He’s actually more popular
There was a very vocal group that out and out hated him which led to Bungie drastically reducing his intended role in the H3 story
It’s almost like when Halo fans excessively complain about stuff it makes the end product of future games worse
I’m not bitter, I swear
cedar surge
Star wars of the gaming world
cedar surge
Are most halo wars unsc vehicles still being used?
cedar surge
By post war?
lethal comet
Most have newer models
pulsar grail
Hornet in h5 is no more
stiff creek
In Spartan Assault however, we do see a few Wolverines, a few Grizzlies, and I believe Sparrowhawks as well.
pulsar grail
Sparrowhawks are gorgeous
stiff creek
Yezzir
cedar surge
I would like to see unsc vehicles from other games make a cameo in infinite
Oh yea
Mega mantis
cedar surge
No the mega mantis is real
wild linden
The mega hunter is real as well
wild linden
I wanna see a Type-47 Ultra heavy mining platform fight the Type-47B Ultra heavy combat platform
Halo 2 Scarab vs halo reach/3 scarab
cedar surge
Lotta words for something about to be scrapped
-post made by the mega mantis gang
I personally like the banished scarab the best
wild linden
To bad I have a Type-48 Ultra heavy mortar platform
That's right, a scarab with a mega wraith mortar
cedar surge
Too bad I have a cobra
wild linden
To bad I have a London Class light Cruiser
cedar surge
Too bad I have a autumn class cruiser
wild linden
To bad I have a Artemis Class Battleship/Heavy Cruiser
cedar surge
Too bad I have a Punic class super carrier
wild linden
To bad I have a Forerunner Dreadnought
cedar surge
Too bad I have the flood
cedar surge
:)
wild linden
To bad I have halo rings
cedar surge
:(
wild linden
It's the Zeta halo ring
cedar surge
Too bad I have master Cheif
wild linden
To bad I have the first brute chief meets
pearl siren
To bad I have the flood
cedar surge
Too bad I have limited edition arbiter
pearl siren
And I have high charity
cedar surge
High charity got wrecked by chie- oh wait halo wars 2:awakening the nightmare happened
pearl siren
Yup
wild linden
To bad I have the ability to ODST rush
cedar surge
Hey does anybody here feel more impressed by the unsc weapons than other weapons in sci fi?
pearl siren
Me
cedar surge
Yea they don't feel like pew pew guns
wild linden
Yeah, they feel like assault rifles when they are actually the size, and weigh the same as lmgs
cedar surge
They feel like actual weapons of destruction
pearl siren
I like the br from halo 3
wild linden
Halo combat evolved assault rifle flashback
Marines complaining on how heavy and weapon is flash back
cedar surge
You have problems with the AR?
pearl siren
wild linden
No, I like it, the Marines didn't like the halo 1 varient)can't remember the varient name...) Because it was heavy and huge
cedar surge
I could actually see people in a military using those weapons
wild linden
But it killed covenant faster
Eventually the unsc gave them a lighter and smaller varient though
cedar surge
And yea I think they doenscaled the weapons
pearl siren
I haven’t played halo 2
cedar surge
Downscaling the weapons was a good idea
cedar surge
I played CE and 2
wild linden
I played- 3, then reach, then 1, then 4, then 2, then halo wars
Haven't played halo wars 2 or halo 5
unkempt flower
oh hey are we talkin about what order we played the halo games in?
wild linden
Going from halo 3 to reach and then 4- parkor!
cedar surge
I do like 343s additions to the UNSC's weapons
wild linden
Honestly... Explain, how did earth have 500 ships defending earth in halo 2 but lost all but a few dozen...
cedar surge
Though I do wish they stop going back in time and calling something a prototype
wild linden
They literally went against like... No more than 12 ships
cedar surge
Well by the time we get to 3 another fleet had arrived
And remember
Most of that fleet was frigates and destroyers
wild linden
Even then, that's a lot of frigates and destroyers
wild linden
I mean... I don't see why the unsc went into a offensive
They left the stations unguarded.
unkempt flower
yeah that was stupid.
cedar surge
I think what did most of the damage was that CSO and the second covenant fleet that arrived
Yea most of the time the covenant smashed through because of plot
Like the covenant sneaking through a 29km ship in atmo
They got through cause of plot
wild linden
Unsc: We have 500 ships at disposal, that's a little over 1k MACs with just the ships... The fleet of 10 covenant ships won't be able to pass...
Bungie: Yes but actually no.
cedar surge
Yea they should have upped the covenant ships by a lot
slim thorn
You know that even the Assault Carrier itself ignores the MAC network defenses, literally it can punch through UNSC defenses so easily
cedar surge
Mac stations are no joke
unkempt flower
my question during, halo 2 is
wild linden
Because there was one station...
unkempt flower
'How did no one notice the bombs?'
wild linden
2 of the 3 were destroyed
slim thorn
Boarding parties are small
wild linden
That's how the covenant got through
slim thorn
Radars can't keep up with large numbers
cedar surge
300 mac stations over earth right?
wild linden
Only reason the third one survived was because of chief
Lance, yes
But they had battle groups of 3
cedar surge
So 100 groups
slim thorn
Even the UNSCs is like locked up in the space battles
Only can fetch 3 Frigates to make an attack run
cedar surge
What's the point of 300 mac stations in 100 groups if all you have to do is break through one
wild linden
If the UNSC were to stay in defensive position I don't think the covenant could get through..
These are SUPER mac stations
slim thorn
300 mac is covering all angles of defenses
wild linden
Only a few destroyed a large amount of covenant ships at reach
slim thorn
so it's obvious that 300 mac are spreaded out on the entire orbits
wild linden
Yes but, the probably 20 MAC stations able to shoot at the covenant fleet, plus the over 1k MACs from 500 ships... Would have kept the covenant at bay
cedar surge
I wish we saw more ship types during the battle of earth
last anchor
100 3-station batteries. Cairo, Athens and Malta made up one.
Notice the cities they're named for. Hundreds of klicks apart.
Blow a hole through it and you can put the carrier though pretty easily before the other three-station clusters can reorient
unkempt flower
im suprised the covenent didnt start freaking out when one of the prophets was gone for a while, although im not caught up much on the lore
cedar surge
The prophets can easily be discarded
unkempt flower
oh
cedar surge
Well obviously not that easy but the covenant don't care if you kill one
wild linden
There's plenty of replaces ;)
Also someone tell me why the UNSC fighter(longsword) is like twice the size of the bomber(shortsword)
cedar surge
But continuing that unsc thing from earlier I can feel the power behind each bullet and how goood it sounds. Ok I'm now finished
Well its space
wild linden
Even then, that's a huge freaking fighter
cedar surge
I think it got downsized post war
last anchor
Its multi-role.
the actual fighter verion of the Longsword is smaller than the one we have data for.
Its also not the main superiority fighter, its main job is more akin to a tactical bomber. Stuff like the Broadsword and the Saber handle anti-fighter work.
Also the Baselard.
wild linden
I do know the Longsword has a lot of weapons... And bombs... And nukes.
last anchor
Its a big stick.
And no, the Saber's plans weren't destroyed. Where do you think the Broadsword got its sheilding tech?
cedar surge
and people say that we could beat the unsc
unkempt flower
we become the unsc.
cedar surge
People think they could beat the unsc by looking at how they are in the games
last anchor
I mean (glances at Long night of solice where Saber pilots go EVA to help board the Corvette)
unkempt flower
Practically astronauts with guns(just a joke don't kill me)
i honestly think guns would be better in space, less resistance
last anchor
Also, no, the UNSC is far far ahead of us in technology, lul.
do WE have FTL? I dont think so
Honestly the UNSC could stomp all over most fictional universes bar the really WEIRD ones
wild linden
You know, when we invade Mars, I'm gonna be really upset if it isn't fortunate son played over the battle of geonosis
last anchor
He'll we'd have a shot against Halo
wild linden
.
cedar surge
Not the UNSC,banished,covenant,SOS, or the prometheans
wild linden
Not even the insurgents
cedar surge
Well halo does one up certain sci do by having their military act like a militart
And not people prancing about using white armor using WW1 tactics
looks at the republic
wild linden
Halo 2 or halo 3 ODST? Which one looks better...
unkempt flower
halo 2 classic.
cedar surge
Honestly the big thing other sci fi factions have over the unsc is size
wild linden
The Republic using Jedi who haven't ever lead armies into battle to lead the clones... When they have old military and naval officers who wanted to keep the military in the first place... Resulting in thousands of clones dying in the first wave.
Imagine getting a fleet but keeping them on the ground after they've unloaded their troops instead of using the ships to your advantage
cedar surge
And the worst thing is that people act as of the unsc is primitive for not using "energy weapons"
Most days I would take that projectile weapon
wild linden
Laughs in clone and storm trooper armor literally being plastic
cedar surge
Because I know the wound is going to run deep
Yea in legends that plastic was bulletproof. But in new canon it can't even defend from a crossbow
wild linden
Didn't the UNSC have medical supplies to help heal plasma burns?
cedar surge
Biofoam
cedar surge
Saw one guy suggest that if unsc armor is so ineffective why not just ditch the armor
wild linden
I mean, what else could they do? The Covenant had Plasma... When comparing the UNSC armor to the civil war they had going on
Their armor was way better
And last time I checked the Covenant used the same metal from their ships to make their armor
And they still were able to be taken down
wild linden
And at the beginning the UNSC had over 800 colonies
wild linden
Tell me, why does Jerome sound so much younger than chief
Why does he sound younger in halo wars 2 than 1....
cedar surge
Cryostasis. Halo wars was 20 years before CE and at the end he went into cryo for 28 years
wild linden
Mhm
What's your favorite kind of frigate from the UNSC?
Ngl I really like the Charon Class Frigate
cedar surge
Paris for me
I like the idea of the strident and anlaces but the design is not for me
unkempt flower
why does cheif sound like a smoker in hl2 classic in the 'give them back their bomb' sentence
cedar surge
Cause he is getting old
cedar surge
In his 40s
unkempt flower
jeez
cedar surge
If the anlace and strident looked and felt like a evolution of the older frigates they would be fine with me
wild linden
I don't quite like the newer frigate designs
Don't get me wrong they look good
But.. I like the covenant war ones
The Paris, charon, etc
cedar surge
That applies to most new 343 designs. They look good,but they don't feel halo
Though I like they arnt throwing everything away and are combining things
I hope the wasp and other vehicles stay just with a redesign
wild linden
When the Warthog has been in service for 200 years per covenant war.
cedar surge
If it works it works
wild linden
Mhm
cedar surge
I also like 343 is trying to make the unsc more to be like a military
wild linden
Despite what people said about halo 4, I kinda lined it... Although I hated the fact we didn't get more Marines.. And how stupid Spartan 4 A.I was
Like... The mission with the mammoth? I had 3 Spartan 4s just walking into a cliff wall
Nothing else
Couldn't move them
cedar surge
Somehow the spartan a.I was dumber than marine a.i
cedar surge
I want to see other unsc vehicles that help in combat but arnt driveable like how a few covenant vehicles are and want to be in the middle of a huge battle
With marines laying heavy firing with gunships in the air as support
I want a full blown war for the ring
Utter chaos
wild linden
I want the ability to do tactical things.. Like throw a red smoke grenade and a pelican gunship or wasp will come by to help out
cedar surge
Maybe that can be a new weapon. A tracker that gets gunships to fire on it
wild linden
Have Marines flying in with a Warthog as the gunner lays down fire, the Warthog facing sideways as Marines take cover behind it
cedar surge
Marines using actual tactics
And seeing different types of unsc soldiers
Jetpack odsts
Rail gun marines
Hellbringers
wild linden
I want gears of war 2 opening scene style of chaos but halo
cedar surge
Enemies and allies flying left and right
In the air a pitched air battle
With fleets blasting each other
wild linden
The roar of cannon fire being heard as scorpions are dropped off by pelicans
wild linden
I love new Warthog sound
Sounds like the old halo 2 one
If you've heard the sound they're using
cedar surge
I hope for a battle like in the halo wars 2 trailer but actually spaced out
wild linden
Yeah
Like
Not front to front
I want enemies by enemies
2 lines and enemies on both side
cedar surge
Or you could have a skybox with unsc and banished air forces duking it out
With ground armies battling in the backround
wild linden
And I wish Johnson wasn't dead... That way he could walk out with a rocket launcher, smile, put a cigar in his mouth once lighted and say- "I love the smell of purple blood in the morning"
cedar surge
Something ain't adding up
wild linden
Basically all but the brute and hunter
Either way.
Something I've always dreamed about, it might be heard.. Or not.. Don't know.. Is having A.I on forge
Imagine setting up your own battles and taking part in them
cedar surge
Dozens of anlaces and stridents charging a guardian.
"Spartan lasers and mac rounds,in atmosphere?!"
Multiple marine types would be good for that
cedar surge
Maybe marines that give you ammo
cedar surge
Well we have regenerating health thanks to biofoam injectors
wild linden
Wouldn't even be doing covenant and human battles all the time... I'd also be doing human vs human
cedar surge
Well I don't really like the innies
wild linden
I mean, I'd just want to see Marines vs Marines
cedar surge
I hope the innies and unsc finally unite or the innies get destroyed
wild linden
I mean.. The fact that humanity faced extinction against the Covenant and the insurgency still fought the UNSC? That's a little ridiculous
lethal comet
The URF would probably side with the created
cedar surge
The innies also nuked millions of people
wild linden
This is extinction we're talking about
carmine sleet
Many Innie groups joined forces with the UNSC during the war against the Covenant
cedar surge
Some innies tried to fight the unsc with the covenant
wild linden
Some worshiped the flood.
lethal comet
The reach ones helped
cedar surge
Personally the only innies I'm fine with were the ones at alpha corvi
They actually seemed like good guys
wild linden
The only good innie is a dead innie
wild linden
So... Have you read badblood?
cedar surge
The unsc is practically the only thing keeping humanity safe
Ohhhhhhhhhhh I know that rookie died to a good for nothing innie
wild linden
Ngl, I kinda, just a smidge, liked oni... But when I heard about how they were trying to destabilise the Sangheili...
I got a little triggered
cedar surge
Yea that was very stupid
If a single hint of it gets out humanity is doomed
Then they trying to act like good guys in front of Halsey when their sins outnumber her own possibly 100 times over
wild linden
Also, with that bad blood topic... How does a Badass ODST that killed possibly hundreds of covenant forces by himself all while being a sneaky b****... Die to an innie
cedar surge
I hope that we don't get a "the insurrectionists took this chance after the unsc beat the created and hundreds of planets left the unsc*
Yea that was stupid
I just really don't like the innies
fair hazel
The unsc aren’t all good guys
wild linden
We were just saying the Innies definitely weren't good guys
And how ONI is... Ignorant
I mean, i get they are worried but
humble yacht
Everyone bad, just fire the halos and be done with it
wild linden
Trying to destabilise your greatest ally?
cedar surge
And yea I think this wouldn't have gone down this badly if the unsc didn't act like jerks to the outer colonies
@humble yacht you can't just take the easy way out because people are bad
humble yacht
Sure you can
cedar surge
The unsc needlessly antagonize the outer colonies
wild linden
I mean when you have a smug buck face like that you can
humble yacht
Buck and Veronica should fire the halos from the ark and restart the galaxy together
cedar surge
If they didn't antagonize the outer colonies so much there wouldn't be some many innsurectionists
Oops
That's going to turn bad after a few generations
wild linden
I'm fine with just buck restarting the galaxy
humble yacht
You fool
wild linden
No one else
humble yacht
I’m not saying they should repopulate everything themselves
cedar surge
Not even Johnson?
humble yacht
Use the gene seeds on the ark
wild linden
Johnson is dead... So he doesn't count :'(
fair hazel
Maybe the primordial was right?
cedar surge
hey guys I have a great idea why don't we get Johnson back but get him killed by the insurrection for shock value it would be cool right guys?
fair hazel
He’s dead
wild linden
How about we get Johnson to become a literal atomic bomb and he just wipes out the banished
With one bullet
Seems like canon to me
cedar surge
Not for long brings out forerunner mcguffin
humble yacht
If he’s a bomb then he wouldn’t need a bullet
cedar surge
I hope they just do one thing
wild linden
Plot twist, he IS the bullet
cedar surge
no time travel
humble yacht
Can’t even keep your head canon consistent smh
cedar surge
Saw one post claiming to have the plot of infinite and it was basically a copy of end game and noble six came back
And they use time travel
It was so obviously fake but I hope they stay as far away from time travel
wild linden
Hope they don't skip ahead a few years... Like... A few months or weeks is fine
Not a year.
humble yacht
A year since when?
cedar surge
Weeeel from what we saw in the trailers its 2561
tough fulcrum
lethal comet
Military junta would be more appropriate
cedar surge
There is a democracy there somewhere
cedar surge
BR is one of my favorite weapons in all of sci fi
lethal comet
I prefer the energy sword
lethal comet
If brutes had energy shielded armor in CH, why didn't they use it on high charity in H2
cedar surge
Only cowards use energy shields
-unknown brute chieftain
To continue the unsc feels like a military we could have in the future
versed helm
I'm pretty sure that there isn't a lot of democracy with the UNSC. If they decide to control a planet and you resist then they consider you an Insurrectionist.
versed helm
Have you ever heard of the origin of the flood?
limpid meadow
If brutes had energy shielded armor in CH, why didn't they use it on high charity in H2
@lethal comet Different Brute clans have different views on Covenant tech. In particular, there's a divide between two primary Brute skeins: Rh'tol and Vheiloth. In particular, members of the Rh'tol skein, such as Tartarus, didn't want his species to become over reliant on the Covenant's advanced technology, which is likely why they were largely unarmored (from a lore perspective, anyway).
main siren
I've read the Forerunner saga, so I already know about the origin of the Flood
limpid meadow
Tartarus did because he was part of Maccabeus' clan, not a clan leader, and Maccabeus seemed more open to certain Covenant technology.
wild linden
After the Elites Fell and Brutes took power the Prophets gave them new technologies.... Like Power Armor...
lethal comet
I am talking the other way round
limpid meadow
The armors became more common in the forces we encountered, but they were always there.
Truth was secretly getting the Jiralhanae armed and ready to take over the Covenant violently, and it's implied that armoring them was part of that effort.
slim thorn
And the Brutes are so easy to be manipulated
terse lava
Makes me wonder if the jiralhanae ever could have gotten over their feud with the sangheili or just be more civilized
versed helm
Atriox can be used as an example, but he can also be regarded as an anomaly.
terse lava
He had that potional sure, but by the time the game came out he was little better then any other
versed helm
Hmm, I disagree, I think they purposefully left his motives ambiguous to secure a better appearance in a later game.
terse lava
I met his attitude more then motives. Atriox in the comics and Atriox in the game act like two different beings
versed helm
Is that so? I haven't read the comics.
terse lava
Yea, in them he actedore like a noble leader, saying no one would be forced to join the Banished. He even talked a group of silent shadow into joining him
versed helm
I didn't know about the Silent Shadow joining him, looks like I need to read some summaries.
terse lava
It was only a group of 3, their leader didnt agree and they literally stabbed him in the back with swords
versed helm
How honourable...
terse lava
Well they had been on a constant mission killing jiralhanae everywhere. Apparently it had grown stale
And they saw their leader as being blinded by revenge
cedar surge
Can the banished make their own ships?
humble yacht
that depends on if they have control of old Covenant manufacturing sites
cedar surge
I want to see brute designed ships
versed helm
@terse lava How did he behave to encourage his troops to do that?
cedar surge
He had speech 100
versed helm
Not really, because they betrayed him.
terse lava
He declined Atriox's offer to join the banished and considered the jiralhanae a traitor like the rest of his race
His underlings didnt betray him out right, they reasoned with him first
versed helm
Ah, so did he still believe in the Covenant's ideologies?
terse lava
versed helm
Thanks, I'll read through that.
terse lava
Welcome
versed helm
Oh, didn't you want to tell me something about Broken Circle yesterday?
terse lava
Ah yes was commentating on how the vast time span made them more interesting to me then the UNSC
versed helm
Yeah, I can see why.
terse lava
Plus I admit, I love the Covenant visual look infinitely more then humanity
versed helm
They do look more unique, having vibrant colours for ranks and interesting vehicles.
terse lava
And the smooth look. I can come off a long day at work, and just sit in a covenant map and relax
versed helm
The designs for UNSC vehicles are kind of limited since they need to remain somewhat grounded and sci-fi human vehicles are overdone.
terse lava
True
versed helm
I find some of the Covenant maps to be creepy.
terse lava
Really?
terse lava
At times yea
I dont see how they can be creepy
If anything, forerunner facitilies would be creepy. Cold, sterile, no warmth
versed helm
I have a reasonable explanation.
terse lava
Ok listens
versed helm
Let me finish raiding the White House first, sir.
Alright, it's basically because I regard the Covenant as the enemy. Being deep into one of their ships or territory in general is creepy. I don't feel like I belong there.
@terse lava
terse lava
Ah
versed helm
Does that make sense?
terse lava
Yea
versed helm
Don't get me wrong, I love them but I still find them to be creepy.
terse lava
I can kinda understand that
versed helm
Looking into the fate of Resa, it's nice that his subordinates still respected him even after what they had to do.
cedar surge
Have drones appeared in anything recent?
versed helm
Yes they do, in Halo Wars 2.
stiff creek
The Yanme'e?
carmine sleet
Yes they do, in Halo Wars 2.
They're not in Halo Wars 2
stiff creek
It's a bit easier to call them Buggers.
versed helm
Oh, I thought you were referring to the machines.
carmine sleet
Those are Sentinels
carmine sleet
Oh, you mean those, the UNSC drones
versed helm
Yeah.
carmine sleet
I think we may have all thought the other was thinking of something else
versed helm
Lance asks a lot about the UNSC and its tech so that's why I assumed he was referring to standard drones.
carmine sleet
Ah, I see
vale pendant
so hum
uhm
the big ark portal on earth
did humanity even know it was underground
bright briar
I don't think they did, at least not until the end of Halo 2.
vale pendant
hmm
bright briar
Since they had to ask Spark where it was.
vale pendant
you would think the ground had be scanned
humble yacht
it was pretty deep underground
vale pendant
oh
wasnt humanity kinda in a civil war until the covenant came? about insurgencies
or something
vale pendant
was it a big war?
humble yacht
yes
vale pendant
who was on the winning side until the covenant came and ruined the party
terse lava
It was bad enough the Spartans were made to combat the rebels
humble yacht
the innies were giving the UNSC a hard time but i don't think they would have won
i think the UNSC was avoiding hitting them too hard until they lost patience and made the Spartans
vale pendant
what did the innies think when the covenant came? UNSC propeganda?
terse lava
Some though the Covenant was a joke...until plasma rained down
versed helm
Maybe to begin with, Chimera. I can't imagine they would believe that the Covenant existed until it became a bigger threat.
gilded mason
what did the innies think when the covenant came? UNSC propeganda?```
Some did, yes.Others also thought, thanks to the UNSC/ONI being what it is, that they were lying about the context of the war, and that they did something to instigate the Covenant into wanting to destroy just the UNSC specifically. Sadly those were mistaken in this instance.
vale pendant
hah
versed helm
If only things were that simple.
vale pendant
man they must have been sad finding out the covenant was actually trying to wipe out the human race
terse lava
At least they were not sad for long
vale pendant
If the vents of the games didnt happen, would the covenant have been able to wipe out humanity?
gilded mason
Yes.
vale pendant
i mean you can simply send out some ships
versed helm
Yes, because they died, Ado.
limpid meadow
That was one of the plans should the Covenant find Earth.
terse lava
Yes but Covenant ships were faster, they would have caught any ship attempting to flee
gilded mason
You'd be stuck on a single planet, never daring to venture further, should you accidently ping them to your location once more.
gilded mason
It was all they had.
terse lava
Yep
gilded mason
There wasn't much recourse to something like the Covenant
limpid meadow
Yes but Covenant ships were faster, they would have caught any ship attempting to flee
@terse lava If they were watching them flee, yes.
terse lava
Only other plan was to spite the Covenant by blowing up a world
limpid meadow
The reason the Fleet of Particular Justice beat Pillar of Autumn to Alpha Halo was because they were right on the Autumn's tale.
terse lava
Well of course, it would only be if the covenant fleet saw them go
cedar surge
Wonder how the battle of earth would have gone if Cole was there
vale pendant
is it manpower or simply the tech being less advanced then covenant? because post halo 3 it seems like humanity become more tech savvy pretty quick, to the point of seeming more powerful then the covenant
limpid meadow
If a group of Humans secretly got away, they'd be able to escape with little consequence
terse lava
Earth would have fallen regardless as the Covenant still out numbered them
cedar surge
Earth never truly fell
gilded mason
Cole was good, but he was no miracle worker. He might have possibly slowed it some, at the cost of many ships, but...what Ado said.
cedar surge
Marines took back the cities
limpid meadow
Wonder how the battle of earth would have gone if Cole was there
@cedar surge Cole is a brilliant commander but his victories were often due to superior firepower and overwhelming force, often at the cost of 3 UNSC ships for every Covenant ship eliminated.
That or he'd lure the Covenant to a strategically viable location.
If he'd been present when the Covenant just showed up, things wouldn't have changed much.
terse lava
The only way the playing field could have been leveled would be literal, a NOVA
cedar surge
Aside from mac platforms what other types of defence platforms did the unsc have?
Nova bomb
gilded mason
The only way the playing field could have been leveled would be literal, a NOVA```
Bye Earth lolhow many mac guns orbited earth?
terse lava
300
vale pendant
The most of all planets i guess?
gilded mason
300 I think?
stiff creek
^
limpid meadow
- It's said during Halo 2's opening
cedar surge
Do you think the unsc have regular archer missile and coil gun platforms?
terse lava
"Clean through a covenant capital ship....minus assault carriers"
stiff creek
Well archer missles are on every ship, so probably not.
cedar surge
Unless the covenant had overwhelming numbers I do think except for plot reason they could have gotten throuhh
Reach had 20 and they held out for a while
stiff creek
The Covenant came in waves when they hit Earth.
terse lava
They held out for a few hours
stiff creek
The first wave destroyed a ton a the MAC platforms.
agile dragon
once the earthside generators were taken out, the super macs went down and they didn't do as well o.o
cedar surge
If most of the unsc fleet battle ships weren't totally all destroyed,what is the in canon reason for only frigates and cruisers being there?
gilded mason
Hm?
terse lava
Because humanity mostly made them?
cedar surge
I mean
terse lava
Their fleets consisted mostly of frigates
cedar surge
I don't understand why a powerful ship like the Punic wouldn't be at earth defending it. It was never stated the whole class was dead only reduced to a handful. Although I could be wrong
versed helm
I suggest you look into Halopedia's page for full clarity, sir.
terse lava
Agreed
vale pendant
when the spirit arrives at the ark in HW2
did they find out if humanity was gone or lost the war?
carmine sleet
Humanity didn't lose the war against the Covenant
humble yacht
Isabel filled in the SoF on relevant history
terse lava
They didn't until talking to isabel
vale pendant
oh okay
gilded mason
I wish it wasn't all offscreen.
vale pendant
the flood dlc for HW2 takes place after the main game right
where is the spiri of fire during the outbreak
humble yacht
probably off fighting banished forces somewhere else on the Ark
cedar surge
Atriox had to sacrifice fortified positions to fight the flood
So with no plot armor who do you think will win the war for the ark?
Both of them can't easily replenish troops
And one has orbital superiority. I think the SoF or unsc will win
clever fable
I'll fanboy for the position of Colony breaking off from the Banished, and winning the fight on its own after figuring out how to pilot a Keyship.
Definitely not going to happen, but I can dream.
humble yacht
have you heard of fanfic.net?
craggy sierra
I feel like Bungie were big fans of it
cedar surge
Oh I heard of fanfic .net. where the unsc has already achieved forerunner level tech,master Cheif having a group of anime girls as love interests for him. Star wars somehow invading halo even though there are no hyperlanes they knows about which should mean death
cedar surge
Oh yea I and-
humble yacht
it'll be everyone's worst nightmare
cedar surge
no
humble yacht
and i'll laugh and collect the tears and season my steaks with the salt from them
cedar surge
I and a few others had a idea where admiral Cole after cole's last stand slipspace into the star wars galaxy under thrawn
terse lava
That steak itself will go on to be an OC in your anime harem fic wont it?
craggy sierra
I believe fanfic.net also said something about chief being the only “hyper lethal” spartan. Thank god that never became official otherwise it’d read like the ultimate mary sue...
versed helm
Please, make it stop.
cedar surge
The only fanfic I like was the halo x battlestar galactica
craggy sierra
It hurts me that Bungie actually tried to make hyper lethal a thing
versed helm
I don't like any of it myself.
cedar surge
But like with any good fanfic. It never finished
Oh yes now I Remeber something
2 marines from mass effect managing to hold a spartan down
humble yacht
Did Joe Staten write halsey's journal, and is that journal where the statement was from?
craggy sierra
I mean if they were biotics they could probably do it
cedar surge
Nope no biotics mentiond
craggy sierra
That’s big brain right there
cedar surge
They held held noble 6 down while 6 was in full armor by normal marines
versed helm
wasnt he a 'hYpEr LeThAl VeCtOr"?
cedar surge
Yep
versed helm
even if he wasnt, i doubt marines can hold down a sII or possibly a sIII
craggy sierra
I am in 100% agreement with the retcon 343 pulled on that
versed helm
6 was a sII right?
craggy sierra
3
cedar surge
Have you heard the tragedy of hyper lethal oc spartan the wise?
versed helm
hahah
gusty star
I wouldn't say they necessarily retconned him being hyper-lethal, they retconned him and Chief being the only ones with the rating. They changed it so all SIIs have the rating.
craggy sierra
So now instead of only chief and 6 being hyper lethal like a grade schooler explaining why their action figures are better they made it so that all spartans are designated hyper lethal so Chief and 6 don’t come off as super special mary sues
deep pewter
All Spartans*
versed helm
makes sense
cedar surge
"Nuh uh! My spartan is also hyper lethal!"
versed helm
^^ every edgy halo player
craggy sierra
That’s literally how I read it as.
Just grade schoolers arguing over action figures
gusty star
Where did you get all Spartans having the rating from
deep pewter
Spartan Field Manual
craggy sierra
Just categorizing all spartans as hyper lethal entities, while still sounding stupid, at least doesn’t make chief and 6 be mary sues and was probably the best way to go about it.
humble yacht
Halopeida says Ground Command made all spartans hyper lethal
versed helm
That's true.
versed helm
a question- gungir users were like demolitionists?
gilded mason
It also said SIVs, when also wearing the armor, are hyper lethal.
humble yacht
the field manual just hates IIIs i guess 
gusty star
Hm not a fan of that
humble yacht
lol
deep pewter
The universe hates the IIIs tbh
terse lava
"You're hyperlethal, he's hyperlethal! I'm hyper lethal! Are there any others I need to know are hyperlethal?"
versed helm
Kurt. ;-;
carmine sleet
Well, the S-IIIs were made to be sent on suicide missions, Nathan
humble yacht
give me a hypolethal spartan, that'd be more interesting
gilded mason
The ultimate pacifist runner.
craggy sierra
the field manual just hates IIIs i guess
No one cares about Jun’s feelings
humble yacht
what if Jun wrote the manual
carmine sleet
Jun wrote then an S-II went in and edited it
gusty star
It was written by IVs 
humble yacht
that doesn't make sense
craggy sierra
That’d make a lot of sense why he’d exclude Spartan 3’s then. He’s seen first hand they all sucked and died.
versed helm
Not all of them.
humble yacht
it was written for IVs, not by IVs
craggy sierra
Isn’t Jun like the last one?
versed helm
No.
gusty star
I mean canonically it was seemingly written by IVs, as they leave their remarks throughout the guide.
craggy sierra
I thought ONI just yeeted them all out on suicide missions
versed helm
The two survivors of Operation TORPEDO are stationed on a research facility.
gilded mason
And there are still a good amount of Gammas out there.
humble yacht
the manual has notes from Thorne and another IV added but the main text was not written by IVs
versed helm
There's one company that was disbanded and unknown, right?
gilded mason
Delta, I think?
versed helm
Right, thanks.
terse lava
I hold that sangheili wrote the Manuel as a way to troll humanity
versed helm
Thel is hyper depressed.
craggy sierra
Lodamee or Vadam?
versed helm
Vadam.
craggy sierra
I agree
versed helm
He is completely dead inside in H2.
craggy sierra
I mean having eyes forced opened to literally every single one of the flaws of your culture and fundamental beliefs will do that to you
Tbh I always read his lack of interaction with the chief in H3 as being really begrudging about the whole situation.
versed helm
Of course he's depressed, I don't blame him.
I've always assumed that Thel just didn't know how to interact with the Chief, so he simply assisted him.
craggy sierra
idk I feel like he would care a lot less if the prophets didn't put the kill order out on the elites
And he just spends all of H3 thinking "this is somehow your fault."
Which, from his perspective, killing regret may have been the instigating event even if the prophets were planning it for a while
versed helm
I think he would still care if he discovered that the religion was a lie.
craggy sierra
I mean he would've probably literally not listened to any of those facts without the kill order anyways
versed helm
Well, we never got a chance to see him listen. He seemed pretty willing to listen to 343.
gilded mason
Sesa seemed to think he'd listen when he was still Supreme Commander. Though I don't know how well Sesa actually knew him.
versed helm
I don't think he knew that it was Thel.
gilded mason
No, I'm talking about in the terminals
Sesa told Spark that he knew he could trust Thel 'Vadamee to listen to the truth.
versed helm
Right, but that's the thing, I don't think he knew it was Thel. It explains why he didn't let him listen to 343.
carmine sleet
Sesa told Spark that he knew he could trust Thel 'Vadamee to listen to the truth.
Well, he listen to a Truth, just not the actual truth
gilded mason
This is before his Arbiter-ification
versed helm
You mean demotion?
humble yacht
would Sesa have been aware of Thel's shaming?
gilded mason
Eithier or lol
humble yacht
he was already defected by that point
versed helm
I don't think so, he shut off communications.
gilded mason
He was aware that he'd most likely be severely punished for the events of 04
versed helm
He predicted it, but was not certain of it.
humble yacht
yea but seems like becoming the arbiter was done hush hush
and not an expected punishment
could it even be called a punishment?
gilded mason
By the time the Heretic mission was done, it seemd like it was fairly widely known
humble yacht
thel revered the arbiters
versed helm
No, they considered the demotion as an act of honour.
gilded mason
Or a way to regain honor
humble yacht
sounds dubious
versed helm
Zealous people doing zealous things.
humble yacht
i don't think the mark of shame and being arbiter go hand in hand
humble yacht
see i always took that line as meaning the mark was the reason Rtas knew the arbiter was thel
if not for the mark, would his identity been known?
versed helm
It's a fairly ambiguous quote that is open to interpretation.
Well, the soldiers seem to be aware of who Thel was, their dialogue indicates this.
humble yacht
but those same soldiers were cheering his torture not too long before
it doesn't make sense that they'd hate him one minute then love him the next
versed helm
H2 has its inconsistencies and nothing suggests that those soldiers were the same ones seen in the missions.
humble yacht
i'm sure the whole covenant would have tuned into thel's torturing
either remotely or in attendance
versed helm
Hm, I don't really want to make assumptions here.
humble yacht
you said they were zealous
mandatory attendance for a shaming seems like a very covenant thing to do
versed helm
Of course, but I'm unsure and I don't want to make assumptions.
rugged lion
What is covenant civilian life like?
versed helm
Boring, like ours.
versed helm
Yeah, there were civilians on High Charity.
gusty star
Plenty of civilians.
versed helm
Not anymore.
fair hazel
Flood civilians
humble yacht
floodboi puts on a suit, grabs his briefcase and goes to the office
cedar surge
Floodboi proceeds to open his briefcase which has a infection form holding a nova bomb
versed helm
They're all dead now anyway.
cedar surge
Well they were taking over the ark before the banished stopped them
versed helm
Who? High Charity's combat forms?
versed helm
Yeah, that's not High Charity's civilians we see.
jolly furnace
its funny and morbid
cedar surge
You sure delete
cedar surge
How can those not be HC combat forms
versed helm
Because they all died when Chief blew up I00 in H3.
humble yacht
ATN doesn't do a good job explaining where those flood come from
cedar surge
@versed helm they didnt
humble yacht
it's why i don't like it
cedar surge
High charity was still intact in HW2
humble yacht
Halos don't destroy ships
versed helm
Really?
humble yacht
HC being intact is meaningless to a halo
cedar surge
It looks like chief blew up a small portion of HC
humble yacht
i mean we already know that blowing up HC didn't kill the flood because the very next level, flood show up
versed helm
Well, all of the Flood must have died anyway.
cedar surge
Why doesn't the sentinels assault high charity in ATN instead of qouratine
fair hazel
that small back u preactor blowing up wasznt enough to destroy high charity itself
cedar surge
Yea it was a back up
fair hazel
because there is no monitor to oversee such operation
a destabilizing halo firing doesn't have the same effect
cedar surge
Well if the banished asked SoF to nuke it from orbit.
humble yacht
seems easier to just wall it off
cedar surge
Would it go well?
humble yacht
probably not
a destabilizing halo firing doesn't have the same effect
That was grim's response to the question but to me it's haphazard and doesn't adequately address the situation
cedar surge
It might go better by putting a nuke inside the shield so it can redirect the nukr back at itself
humble yacht
it wouldn't go well because atriox wouldn't ask them for help
cedar surge
The SoF would likely be aware of the outbreak and know how destructive it can get and yet they don't do anything?
cedar surge
Orbital supremacy tho?
humble yacht
even if they're in orbit, it's more likely they were worried about whatever atriox himself was doing during the DLC
cedar surge
How many banished are on the ark? Thousands?
humble yacht
dunno
cedar surge
Huh
humble yacht
i always assumed most if not all of their forces but i guess that's not the case
cedar surge
Would be cool to get a book about the ark war
I think they left a sizeable amount of banished in the galaxy before going to the ark
If the banished teaser is anything to go by
humble yacht
that seems to be the case after that reveal last week
cedar surge
If we did get a book about the war on the ark what perspective should it be from?
Marine or odst or maybe even a banished soldier?
versed helm
Why not all of them?
cedar surge
So a book about the ark war with multiple perspectives? Cool I would like that
But then Isabel decided to wreck everyone and keep Jerome in stasis because she loves him and establishes a dictatorship of AI
delicate notch
Do you believe the corruption of the precursor "sand" was intended?
versed helm
But then Isabel decided to wreck everyone and keep Jerome in stasis because she loves him and establishes a dictatorship of AI
No thanks.
cedar surge
what ever do you mean Delete? You don't like AI overthrowing the people they actively are helping and establishing a dictatorship? If it works for other sci fi it works for us!
craggy sierra
I mean I mean I’m at least interested to see how it pans out
humble yacht
me too
gusty jay
Who here hopes that Cortana was just infected by the logic plague and that the main villian in Infinite is the flood and not Cortana?
delicate notch
Well, it seems like the banished will be the main villain thus far @gusty jay
gusty jay
I hope they bring the flood back tho
delicate notch
I do too, and it seem (Depending on stuff) a possibility
versed helm
what ever do you mean Delete? You don't like AI overthrowing the people they actively are helping and establishing a dictatorship? If it works for other sci fi it works for us!
Lmao, not a fan of it. It's been overdone.
gusty jay
Mainly tho I want Cortana to redeem herself, I'd be mad if she was the final villian of the Halo series
past prawn
delicate notch
Yea, I would too. I like how she turned into the grey area somewhat, even tho I know many dislikes it alot. But I believe she got some truth to her reasoning. I mean, we create super-smart sentient AIs and get surprised when they dont wanna die.