#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 335

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:43 PM

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@frosty heart i can try to explain it

frosty heart May 25, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Ok

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 6:44 PM

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i don't think a large summarization of a game is needed

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:44 PM

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@frosty heart halo reach took place during the battle of reach i believe it was the first major engagement the coveneant made against humanity

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 6:44 PM

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...

feral perch May 25, 2020, 6:44 PM

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... that’s completely wrong

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 6:44 PM

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nope

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off to a bad start 😛

feral perch May 25, 2020, 6:45 PM

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like utterly, utterly inaccurate

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Harvest was the first major engagement, right?

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Yes

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:45 PM

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@frosty heart during the battle several spartan teams were deployed many spartans died in the end the coveneant won but their victory didnt last long as the unsc pillar of autumn discovered installation 01

feral perch May 25, 2020, 6:46 PM

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that’s mostly true

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 6:46 PM

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🤔

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:46 PM

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@haughty urchin ye was thinking it was too wasnt sure if it was reach or harvest

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I can understand your confusion though Minato, the story doesn't mention Harvest much unless it's the books

frosty heart May 25, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Whats installation 01

carmine sleet May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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They discovered Installation 04, not Installation 01

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Oh ye

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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oof

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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knew i was wrong there

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Wasnt halo 2 installation 06

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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this is why reading a synopsis would be better

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no

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Oof

fair hazel May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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😬 the errors..

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Installation 01 would just be one of the rings floating abeet, I don't think we ever go there

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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ye havent played in a few weeks

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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BE NICE GUYS

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MISTAKES ARE EASy >:(

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:48 PM

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its ok dongobee

fair hazel May 25, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Then go west..

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 6:48 PM

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That's why it's better to live in the west

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I cannot type for the life of me lmao

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Ye we all make mistakes

frosty heart May 25, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Lol well thanks minato

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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yw

frosty heart May 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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What is an “installation”

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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A halo ring

frosty heart May 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Ok thats what i thought

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Well, a forerunner construct in general sometimes

frosty heart May 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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But being wrong pisses everyone off lmao

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Such as the Ark

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I don't know if the forerunner worlds have installation designation

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Lemme check

fair hazel May 25, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Yes... shield world #

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 6:50 PM

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nothing wrong with being wrong, but if you want to provide someone with info, you should know what you're talking about. otherwise, it's better for them to just read on their own

raw smelt May 25, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Aw

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Bruh I thought that was lore

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Smh

frosty heart May 25, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Lmao

gaunt oakBOT May 25, 2020, 6:51 PM

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@raw smelt has been muted for 1 day.
Reason: weird innapropriate comment

fair hazel May 25, 2020, 6:51 PM

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The older halo rings has different designations than installation #

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Like. Zeta. Omega

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 6:52 PM

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isn't that based on firing sequence?

fair hazel May 25, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Original array

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:53 PM

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T-there's two arrays? ._.

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 6:54 PM

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no

fair hazel May 25, 2020, 6:54 PM

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There were 12 halo rings built.

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And then 6 more.

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Not counting prototypes

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7 survived. Then 1 got destroyed. A replacement later got destroyed. And a new one was made.

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20 halo rings

snow zephyr May 25, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@runic flicker 💚

frosty heart May 25, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Lol what

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Is that the real master chief

fair hazel May 25, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Why did you randomly tag some guy and put a heart? 🤔

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 6:58 PM

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In the lore channel? 🤔

runic flicker May 25, 2020, 6:58 PM

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First time getting pinged here

versed helm May 25, 2020, 6:59 PM

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I recommend turning notifications off, if it becomes an issue anyway.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 7:00 PM

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I genuinely had no idea there were other Halo rings from the main 7 though, where are they discussed?

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The Forerunner trilogy?

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 7:01 PM

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yep

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Neato

fair hazel May 25, 2020, 7:03 PM

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The 7th ring is part of the original array

cloud trellis May 25, 2020, 8:14 PM

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GIve me your best halo book

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and why

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pretend this is an elevator pitch

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Broken Circle: It's all about the Covenant with no humans at all, detailing the starting years of it, and then its breaking, thousands of years later. Included is a plot about Sangheili that escaped from joining the Covenant in its first years to be independent.

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I've been wondering, if an ODST drop pod is stuck underwater, can the explosive charges blow the door off? Even when the pressure is really high at certain depths?

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:28 PM

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depends on the amount of force behind the explosives

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at a certain pressure, the forces outside the pod would negate the explosive force of the door charges and keep it in place.

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Can the explosives get drenched too? Or are they inside of the hatch itself?

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

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it's probably not gunpowder-based explosives

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I see.

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So, you might have to break the glass to allow water to enter, so that the pressure would equalise?

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

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if modern humans can invent guns that fire underwater, i'm sure 26th century humans could too postums

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Lmao.

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:30 PM

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blowing the charges underwater would break the seal, leading to water leaking into the pod

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it would fill up on its own eventually, and then the pressure would be equalized

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Ah, so even if the system fails, you could open the door after a moment.

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:31 PM

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depends on the rate the water filled up the pod, but yes, eventually you could open the door

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you might need to hold your breath

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Right, do the pods include rebreathers?

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:31 PM

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There's probably a slow hydraulic backup

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Otherwise that's a health and safety nightmare

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(Don't mention them literally being dropped from orbit)

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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They're called metal coffins for a reason.

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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who knows if rebreathers come with the pods

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Do ODST suits have an oxygen supply?

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I don't think so.

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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they don't appear to be vacuum sealed, so i'd doubt it

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

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It's kind of silly how Army Troopers have the arrow to show the right way down, while the ODST chestplate doesn't.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I don't know if this is the right channel to think about this, but would anyone else love the idea of a episodic Star Trek esque show in the Halo universe?

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I'd eat that up

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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No thanks.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Like a postwar vessel just, doin stuff each episode

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Why's that?

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I'd prefer the gritty approaches, like Landfall.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Oh, sorry I didn't mean tonally, my bad

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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All good.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I just meant like very episodic, each installment is just an exploration of the universe

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Like this ep is about some cool Forerunner exploration

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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That would be a nice idea.

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I'd like to see a realistic attempt at capturing the lives of Marines and ODSTs as a show.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Yeah, if it was like Jarhead or something that would be really interesting

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Just spending time with Marines

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Yeah, the presentation is like Landfall where it is archived footage captured from head cams and other tech.

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I just thought that it was really cool, it felt like you were really watching a live feed of an ongoing battle.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Yeah, diegetic video is always super interesting

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Like the flood footage made it so much more interesting in Halo CE

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Definitely.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Weird unrelated question I just thought of

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Did Tartarus and Atriox ever meet, or like, interact?

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Maybe at some point, but it was never actually stated outright

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I think it's unlikely.

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Atriox was a member of a very disposable unit.

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Atriox's unit was the Spartan 3s of brutes

queen otter May 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I don’t think it will ever be stated if Tartarus and Atriox interacted simply because it had so little importance

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Oof.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Yeah, just a thought that popped into my head

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I think that I just heard an Elite growl at me, never experienced that before.

queen otter May 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Ya know I would like to know some of the questions that are just left unanswered and probably won’t ever be explained.

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Like the name of Noble Six's cave?

queen otter May 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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No nothing like that LOL.

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I was just joking lmao.

queen otter May 25, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I know. That’s why I put emphasis on lol.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Does Chief prefer tennis or lacrosse

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These are the burning questions

versed helm May 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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I don't think he's ever had the chance to play either.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:53 PM

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I've always wondered if John would even be interested in like, listening to music or sitting down and watching a movie

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:54 PM

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doubt it

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think those sort of interests were conditioned out of him

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Yeah, that's as much as I thought

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Poor guy

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I imagine Spartan-III's are a lot more sociable

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:56 PM

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depends on the spartan

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Emile didn't exactly seem sociable

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Yeah, his primary descriptor is probably more knifey

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:57 PM

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actually, i don't think 3s were particularly more sociable than 2s. we don't really see Noble Team interact with non spartans beyond a few civilians

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and 3s were typically conscripted at younger ages than the 2s

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Wait, is my memory going crazy?

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I thought they'd be more sociable since I was convinced they were Spartanised at like teen years

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Am I totally misremembering?

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:59 PM

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i think you're mixing your spartan generations

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Dangit

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:59 PM

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spartan 2s were the ones that needed to be at a certain age to be compatible with the augmentations

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the 3s were more flexible in their compatibility

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I thought Kurt grabbed a bunch of teenagers for the 3 program

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I must be mistaken

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 8:59 PM

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i think so

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:00 PM

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It was mostly 4-6 year old, though a couple 11 year olds, I think.

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Carter was an outlier as he was older than most candidates at the time of his induction

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to be clear, age of induction and age of augmentation are two different things

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Yeah I was thinking of induction age

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:04 PM

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induction means the time they were taken ONI

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spartan candidates trained for quite awhile before getting their augmentations

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Yeah, for some reason I was convinced Spartan-IIIs were inducted at like, 14 as opposed to the II's 6

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Hence why I thought 3s would be more sociable

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But I just ended up building a faulty Jenga tower of wrong information

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:07 PM

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rip

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Also, since I said earlier I'm not familiar with a lot of 343 lore (but want to be), what are the major downsides of the IV program? I had a very anti 343 friend tell me it's stupid because the IV's have like no downsides and are silly

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I don't mind if there's little downsides, I'd just like a less angry perspective than my friend haha

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:09 PM

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downsides?

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what do you mean by that

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Main downsides that I can recall off the top of my head:
Augments aren't as powerful as the II/III ones
SIVs actually have to get "tune-ups" every once in a while for the augments otherwise their bodies will get screwed up

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:10 PM

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not sure if i'd classify the power of the augments as a "downside"

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Downside in comparison

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:10 PM

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to what? no augments?

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:10 PM

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To the previous spartans?

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:10 PM

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not everyone could be a previous spartan

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Okay. I'm just saying. Not having as powerful of augments as previous generations could be considered a downside when the generations are compared.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:12 PM

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I just mean a large part of one of the narrative themes was the loss of aspects of humanity in the Spartans, is this still a thing with 4s?

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:12 PM

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No

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:12 PM

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the tradeoff would be the success rate and availability of the augments

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:12 PM

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I'm not disputing that.

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:12 PM

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4s have led normal (albeit military) lives into adulthood.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Neat

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:12 PM

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they still think like normal people

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they haven't been brainwashed or indoctrinated

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:13 PM

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How many are like active circa Halo 5?

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I'm curious what the rate of them is

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:14 PM

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A few hundred about

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:14 PM

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i thought it was closer to 17,000

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Definitely not

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:14 PM

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THATS CERTAINLY A DIFFERENCE

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Haha

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200 to 17000, give or take

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:15 PM

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halopedia says spartan branch has several hundred

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so i'd put that in the 400-900 range

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Oh yeah, regarding this, Denning said that he wrote Kelly to like listening to music in her downtime in his next book.

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Is there still beef between ODSTs and IV's like there were with the other generations?

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And cool, thanks for the info

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:16 PM

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i doubt that beef has continued on the same way it used to

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after all, 2 well-known ODSTs became S-IVs

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:16 PM

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And I am sorry if this seems like 20 questions, I always find actively discussing lore more interesting than wiki diving

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I'm just very out of my depth post H4

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Ask away, I like answering lore questions

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:17 PM

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How many beefburgers has Buck eaten in his life

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:17 PM

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😐

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Does he prefer steak chips or French fries

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:17 PM

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How many beefburgers has Buck eaten in his life```
16812

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Does he prefer steak chips or French fries```
French fries

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Yes that is a good number

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Very good thank you

gilded mason May 25, 2020, 9:17 PM

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👍

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:17 PM

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i was about to say, I like lore discussion that goes beyond surface level info or gets into joke territory

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:18 PM

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It's why I love headcanon stuff so much

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It allows you to think more about the people

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:18 PM

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this channel is for actual canon

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Ah yeah don't worry, I'm not going to start posting my headcanons here, just thought it was relevant to what you were saying

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:19 PM

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canonically, burgers in halo are made of moa

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Oh yes!

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I love that burger stand in reach

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I swear to god I pushed myself up against so many textures in New Alexandria

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Just searching for lore

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:19 PM

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moa is like a super meat because it can substitute for both beef and chicken

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Now I'm curious what it tastes like 🤔

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 9:20 PM

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probably close to ostrich

versed helm May 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Main downsides that I can recall off the top of my head:
Augments aren't as powerful as the II/III ones
SIVs actually have to get "tune-ups" every once in a while for the augments otherwise their bodies will get screwed up
So you're saying their bodies have to be serviced? Like a car?

haughty urchin May 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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MOT

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For your Spartan

versed helm May 25, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Lmao.

opal birch May 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I'd assume that Hood simply wasn't raised on the British Isles.

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Yes he may be born into British nobility but that doesn't mean he necessarily grew up in Britain

humble yacht May 25, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Early on, there was only one model Mjolnir, so that’s what all Spartans got. As variants were made, some Spartans could alter their armor to suit their battle roles or personal traits

opal birch May 25, 2020, 11:48 PM

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That's one way of being of lord

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Lord is literally a title of nobility

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you're either born into it or you marry into it

versed helm May 26, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Hey guys is Noble team a cat 2 team?

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 1:28 AM

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No, they’re a Kat 2 team

versed helm May 26, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Uhhhhh my joke detector is off, is that a new designation made or just a joke

opal birch May 26, 2020, 1:33 AM

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i think its a joke

versed helm May 26, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Hm

feral perch May 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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CAT-2 or “Category 2” is a nebulous term that refers to some specific Spartan-IIIs... but we have so little information on it that it’s best to ignore it.

last anchor May 26, 2020, 3:17 AM

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It’s kind of gotten buried

stoic hamlet May 26, 2020, 6:20 AM

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I just refer to them as Specialist teams and lump Headhunters alongside them.

versed helm May 26, 2020, 7:37 AM

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So, do the Elites have a different pigment to haemoglobin?

last anchor May 26, 2020, 7:47 AM

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I think so. Their blood is purple

versed helm May 26, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Imagine if their deoxygenated blood is red, while their oxygenated blood is purple, it would be the polar opposite to how our blood behaves.

last anchor May 26, 2020, 7:58 AM

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I'd say thats possible since humans can breath Sangheilio's atmosphere without issue.

versed helm May 26, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Right, they both require oxygen.

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To respire anyway.

last anchor May 26, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Yes. It just binds differently perhaps, or the chemical makeup is different

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:06 AM

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I don't think that the Elites themselves would be able to answer that, I doubt that most of them know much about their bodies.

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Due to the practice of medicine being frowned upon.

last anchor May 26, 2020, 8:07 AM

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That is changing but your probably right. The deep medical sciences arent exactly studied

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Our blood is still red oxygenated or not

last anchor May 26, 2020, 8:08 AM

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I think its blue when its inside your viens. Least, it looks blue as I look at it now.

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:09 AM

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I'd call the pigment, sangoglobin. uny

lament hornet May 26, 2020, 8:09 AM

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The bluish look of our blood in the veins, is nothing more than an optical illusion. Our blood is always red. ske7ch

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remember, our blood is created by red bone marrow

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:11 AM

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For some reason, I thought it reflected blue/dark red light when deoxygenated.

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 8:12 AM

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No.. it’s the way light passes through your skin...

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:16 AM

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So polite...

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Promethean constructs seem to have some orange blood like thing thouvh

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:19 AM

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That behaves like blood?

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 8:19 AM

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You shoot. Orange stuff comes out. I don’t know why.

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Maybe they're powered by orange juice. uny

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 8:20 AM

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I wonder what people’s theories are

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A cooling fluid?

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:22 AM

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I know barely anything about the Prometheans.

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They are machines, right?

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 8:30 AM

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They’re mechanical yes

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Only the knights are composed, everything else is more pure AI

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:32 AM

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Could be a resource.

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That powers them or something.

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Like a type of fuel?

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Yes.

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Perhaps. Either that or cooling. Maybe something else

I do like watchers a lot. They don’t have the straight up firepower as an aggressor sentinel. But that’s not their purpose. It’s support. They can still fire their boltshot. But their strength comes in the support they do. Create new units or turrets. Heal, revive and protect. Catch ordnance and redirect it.

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They’re honestly quite the unit.

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:50 AM

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A pretty good concept but I personally dislike the Prometheans.

radiant herald May 26, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Why do the watchers have tiny little heads and legs

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Design choice.

pulsar grail May 26, 2020, 12:09 PM

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why are the prometheans my bane

versed helm May 26, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Wait..
You said that only the knights are composed, and I know this for a fact.
But, that leaves something else in question.
In Halo 5: Guardians, there were the soldiers that have done dialogue like,
Get Rekt Noob
It’s pretty funny, but it would leave you to believe that they’re composed, no?

spiral jewel May 26, 2020, 2:10 PM

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During 1-3, were the Promethians all on Requiem (?), as it occurred to me that we never encounter them on Alpha Halo, Delta Halo, the Ark or Installation 08... I'm guessing none were stored on the rings or something

obsidian thistle May 26, 2020, 2:10 PM

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@versed helm Knights in H5 are odd.

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Like "really" odd

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Promethean Soldiers aren't composed

versed helm May 26, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Yea. That might just be an Easter egg or somethin

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 2:10 PM

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they're armigers. purely artificial battle AI

carmine sleet May 26, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Wait..
You said that only the knights are composed, and I know this for a fact.
But, that leaves something else in question.
In Halo 5: Guardians, there were the soldiers that have done dialogue like,
Get Rekt Noob
It’s pretty funny, but it would leave you to believe that they’re composed, no?
The Soldiers going "Get Rekt Noob" aren't saying that because they're composed. They're saying that because the dialogue writers decided to have fun with some of the random lines they would say during gameplay

versed helm May 26, 2020, 2:11 PM

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That’s what I thought. Thanks for the clarification!

obsidian thistle May 26, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Some dialogue is also suspected to be
*Level based
*Warzone based

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 2:12 PM

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that just sounds like IWHBYD dialogue

obsidian thistle May 26, 2020, 2:13 PM

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I gotta test that once I finished the Halo 5 Scripted dialogue recording.

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So much is stop-n-listen, co-op exclusive, and oddly timed.

lethal comet May 26, 2020, 3:00 PM

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why do the san'shyuum have such low populations?

obsidian thistle May 26, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Their home systems star "apparently" super novad. So that kills most of their pop.
Most of the Population that left their home system many years ago was on High Charity where the low population was getting lower due to several reasons.
Most of that population was decimated due to the Flood infestation of High Charity. Leaving around a thousand left

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So if it is just that 1k.

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The species doesnt stand much of a chance.

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If their homeworld still exists. Then its another story.

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@lethal comet

versed helm May 26, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Did a Spartan 3 and spartan 2 ever work together? (aside from jorge)

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Spartans IIs and IIIs worked together to survive on Onyx

obsidian thistle May 26, 2020, 3:39 PM

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And worked together in a few ops following that event in 2553.

near tide May 26, 2020, 4:06 PM

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And in Last light

spiral jewel May 26, 2020, 4:13 PM

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I remember reading on Halopedia that there were a handful of S3's that are a part of S2 Blue Team

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 4:14 PM

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that was the Onyx incident

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the S-IIIs on Onyx were inducted into Blue Team for the duration of that event

carmine sleet May 26, 2020, 4:14 PM

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They also served as part of Blue during the Gao conflict too if I recall correctly

spiral jewel May 26, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Neat to know

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It occurred to me a couple days ago that "Renegades" takes place a month before Halo 4, as chapter 24 takes place in June 2557 and H4 starts July 2557, iirc

near tide May 26, 2020, 4:18 PM

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yep and gao conflict is last light

versed helm May 26, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Kurt. ;-;

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I hate being reminded of him.

feral perch May 26, 2020, 5:21 PM

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why

versed helm May 26, 2020, 5:25 PM

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i recently got ghost of onyx and it’s a good read so far. is there any book about noble 6?

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No

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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No. Maybe if we get one one day, he’ll finally be a character

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Renegades is very close to halo 4. It’s interesting when the books end at or near major event a

versed helm May 26, 2020, 5:32 PM

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why
@feral perch Because of his death, it is sad, no?

feral perch May 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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sad but, it’s the purest death of them all.

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Kurt was probably the most loving Spartan who ever lived.

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Kurt isn’t my favourite. My favourite is only, the best.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Kurt was the bomb

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People loved inviting him to parties because he knew how to set it off

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he did have a bit of a short fuse, though

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Haha

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 5:37 PM

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😏

spiral jewel May 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Nice one Chimera

versed helm May 26, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Kurt isn’t my favourite. My favourite is only, the best.
Really do not see the relevance.

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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My favourite spartan is only, but the best spartan.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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ericky just wanted an excuse to tell people who his favorite spartan is. again.

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Yes

versed helm May 26, 2020, 6:13 PM

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There's a surprise.

last anchor May 26, 2020, 6:18 PM

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When I first saw them I thought Soldiers were the composed essences of New Pheonix given lighter forms than the Knights.
And the Knights were all just the Prometheans still.
Honestly Im alright with being wrong in this case. Soldiers are a bit annoying to fight sure, but they're satisfying to break.
I like how they explode

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Also, Chimera;
(Claps)
Good lore meme. Good lore meme

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 6:20 PM

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No memes

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We already knew in spartan ops they were new Phoenix composée people

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 6:21 PM

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puns != memes

terse lava May 26, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Had always heard Kurt had an explosive temper

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 6:30 PM

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What was Kurt thinking after he volunteered to stay behind with the nuke?

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"This blows."

brisk vine May 26, 2020, 6:32 PM

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😂

versed helm May 26, 2020, 6:34 PM

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arbiter

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I guess you could say he was sent out with a bang.

last anchor May 26, 2020, 6:43 PM

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No, Erick, what I mean is, I thought the Soldiers were composed humans as well.
Just a lighter version.
Then it turns out they're just Sentinels more or less.

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Like, at some point the Prometheans had decided to mass produce constructs and since Soldiers were easier to make than a knight they went with that.
Especially helped with the fact that Halo 5s knights are basically walking tanks.

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 6:51 PM

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The soldiers probably also play a bigger role here than they originally did

gaunt oakBOT May 26, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Auto unmuted @raw smelt

hot nymph May 26, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Halo 5’s knights were like the Promethean Hunter

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Which I'd say was the right direction to go. They should be like mini-bosses rather than the Promethean "Elite"

gilded mason May 26, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Agreed.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 7:24 PM

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i miss their mobility from H4, though

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i like the change to heavy armor over energy shields, but they're so stationary now

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I'll agree to that.

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They didn't necessarily need to be tanks to be mini-bosses.

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Maybe for Infinite, you could have mix: some more mobile and lightly armored, some heavy and slow

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Mix things up a little

carmine sleet May 26, 2020, 7:26 PM

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So basically a standard Knight and a Knight Heavy? That could be interesting to see

obsidian thistle May 26, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I will say. 343i has all the potiential lore reasons to change up the Knights 100%. I mean just say its Cortanafied Knights.

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Yep yep

obsidian thistle May 26, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Tbh I really wanna know if the created will have its own ships and vehicles. And not just have them be repurposed Covie/Forerunner designs

versed helm May 26, 2020, 8:06 PM

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I still want to know the origins of the Warden Eternal,like where did he come from

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 8:06 PM

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he was probably built

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long before the flood wars

jolly furnace May 26, 2020, 8:41 PM

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He said he fought humans before so he's likely older then human-forerunner war

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 8:59 PM

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considering his role as the protector of the domain, and the fact that forerunners worshipped the domain long before the wars with humans or flood, i'm inclined to agree. but when did he say he'd fought humans before?

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I don't believe he says he's fought Humans, but he refers to them as "the animals that brought chaos and blood", referring to the Human-Forerunner war.

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That said, I don't see that as any reason to suspect he's older than the Human-Forerunner war. It's implied he's a composed essence. He could have been created at any time during the Forerunner's reign.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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if he does say it, depending on which encounter, he could just be referring to Osiris or Blue team

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i don't think he's composed

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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He could be, he could not be, it's all up in the air.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 9:10 PM

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he has too much contempt for composed beings

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 9:10 PM

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I don't see why that rules him out as being a composed being.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 9:10 PM

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because he doesn't hate himself?

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and he considers himself a Created being

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 9:10 PM

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We don't know that he doesn't

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Plus it's possible he forgot he was once organic.

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343 GS and 000 Tragic Solitude certain did.

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Anyway, the implication that he could be a composed being comes from this exchange on the level "Genesis":

Tanaka: "Yeah? A robot can feel humiliation?"
Exuberant: "Oh! Warden is not a robot. I thought you understood that."```

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 9:12 PM

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i don't think that points to him being composed

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 9:13 PM

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It doesn't strictly, but it's odd to mention otherwise.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 9:13 PM

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at face value, that's just exuberant once again clarifying that Warden is more than a simple robot

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 9:14 PM

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That seems rather unnecessary.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 9:14 PM

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"robot" isn't a term usually attributed to intelligent beings. I could see an AI not appreciating that terminology

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 9:14 PM

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It's a weird mention regardless.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 9:14 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Basically, lol

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Anyway, just wanted to make that point that there's nothing that strictly points to his age.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 9:15 PM

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given he was quick to call Composed essensces "pretenders" in Dominion Splinter, I'm inclined to believe he's not a Composed being

limpid meadow May 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Although, if he were a composed Warrior-Servant, it would go a long way to explain his utter disdain for Humanity.

humble yacht May 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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that, coupled with the fact that the Domain was long revered before the wars, it's logical that a guardian would have been put in place at genesis before the composers were a thing

fair hazel May 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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the human essences arent given the care as other composed beings

jolly furnace May 26, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Ok so i checked his qoutes. He doesnt actually say he fought humans before

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Or if he did then that qoute's not the Halopedia site

clever fable May 26, 2020, 10:18 PM

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The Warden is really bad at his job. Forerunners shoulda put something else at Genesis instead.

last anchor May 26, 2020, 10:19 PM

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The guardian of the Domain in the Forerunner books was Haruspis right?

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Or the gatekeeper or whatever he was

jolly furnace May 26, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Haruspis are many

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There is more then one of those

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Haruspis (plural Haruspices[1]) was a title given to elevated Forerunners entrusted with studying and watching over the Domain.[2]

agile lotus May 27, 2020, 12:03 AM

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What would the logistical problems be with having a Jackal ride in a warthog?

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Um.... none

agile lotus May 27, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Brittle bones, strong suspension, rough terrain?

plush tinsel May 27, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Lol good question

fair hazel May 27, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Jackals are not weak

gilded mason May 27, 2020, 2:12 AM

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I remember Battle Born having a scene where a jackal took and gave a load of physical abuse, giving a good argument against the "brittle bones" thing.

agile lotus May 27, 2020, 2:52 AM

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So, in a normal Warthog ride, a Jackal likely wouldn’t be hurt.

gilded mason May 27, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Right

agile lotus May 27, 2020, 3:31 AM

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So why haven’t we seen any jackals in a Warthog yet?

round depot May 27, 2020, 3:49 AM

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What happened with the hunters to side with the brutes?

gilded mason May 27, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Some did, some didn't

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So it'd really just depend on which factions specific hunters had an affinity with.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 4:18 AM

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So why haven’t we seen any jackals in a Warthog yet?
@agile lotus
Probably because there were no instances where putting one inside a warthog would make muck sense, or at least as I remember. In the team up with the arbiter ur was just the arbiter and in the whole swords of sanghelios encounter in halo 5 there weren’t any warthogs around. I haven’t played the campaigns for pretty long tho, so take it with a grain of salt.

agile lotus May 27, 2020, 4:19 AM

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There was potential for such a situation in Halo 2, Sacred Icon and Quarantine Zone.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 4:19 AM

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True.

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Welp, maybe it was just one of those odd coincidences.

lethal comet May 27, 2020, 4:42 AM

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the jackals were decimated by the combat forms

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so not ideal

spiral jewel May 27, 2020, 5:28 AM

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From what I can find, the Battle for Earth was fought in Cleveland Ohio (well, URNA, at the time) kind of off in the background, while Chief was in Africa, I wonder how many cities in the URNA were affected, aside from Cleveland...

round depot May 27, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Are there brutes in Halo 4-5? I can't remember

gilded mason May 27, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Nope

versed helm May 27, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Well there was that one chieftain in the prologue of H4 but thats about it

round depot May 27, 2020, 6:13 AM

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What about the drones?

versed helm May 27, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Nope

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Though I think there was concept art for drones in H4

carmine sleet May 27, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Aye, a Drone Sniper. Could've been an interesting addition to the enemy sandbox

versed helm May 27, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Ye

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Another one looks like a mosquito

carmine sleet May 27, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Aye. Honestly, it's a shame they were cut from Halo 4. Would've been an interesting enemy to face off against

versed helm May 27, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Yeah, it'd be cool if they reuse that concept at some point, maybe they would behave as the spec ops variant of the drones, with them being tougher and more skilled with a gun like the spec ops elites from CE.

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Or if they were going to be snipers like in one of the concept arts then maybe they were going to replace or fight alongside with jackal snipers, I hope we find out someday.

echo mason May 27, 2020, 7:57 AM

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So what exactly is Neural Physics? The basic idea I got is that the universe is alive but how does that work? Also is the Ark alive in the same way the Domain is too?

lethal comet May 27, 2020, 1:19 PM

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idk about neural physics because it was too difficult to comprehend even for the forerunners. The ark has an active biosphere. The domain was based on neural physics and was wiped out by the halo effect.

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 1:21 PM

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The Ark is not "alive" the way the Domain is.

lethal comet May 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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The domain is a library of memories and the ark is a gargantuan artificial habitat

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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the domain has a consciousness

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it can actually choose what information to keep

lethal comet May 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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til

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Well didn't know that before.

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Neural Physics is an exotic neurophysical energy that permeates the cosmos that certain beings can tap into with their minds/thoughts to warp, alter and outright break the laws of physics that govern the universe and use it to warp and alter reality to their whim and create nigh-indestructible objects.

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In other words - magic without actually calling it then.

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It's basically a version of SW's Force.

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Its similar to Panpsychism.

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 1:53 PM

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You used the word in the definition postums

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I mean thats what it is

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Usually when trying to define a term, you want to avoid using the term in the definition

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Like if I say “pineapple: a pineapple-ish fruit”, it’s not helpful to anyone who doesn’t know what a pineapple is

versed helm May 27, 2020, 1:58 PM

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From my understanding, it is like an advanced form of interaction with spirits.

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 1:59 PM

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We don’t really know what it is or how it works

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Effectively it lets precursors think things into existence

versed helm May 27, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Pretty trippy.

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:09 PM

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That's pretty much how Greg Bear described it.

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The intent or at least his intent seems to be that the Precursors did just literally just think things into existence and use their thoughts to interface/act with reality

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He also likened to a theory that combines information and particle physics I think

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Is that why Graveminds are able to "latch" onto souls escaping from their bodies?

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Whut

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Where did you get that from?

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Uh.....

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:13 PM

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I was told that even upon death, The Flood can steal your conscience.

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Through neural physics.

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:14 PM

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If you blow ur brains out well enough then no it can't

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:15 PM

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But I was told that even when dying through other means cannot save your soul from The Flood.

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Halo hasn’t really explored the concept of “souls” beyond colloquialisms

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:15 PM

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If u die but still have brain activity then the Flood may be able to absorb ur essence

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Same can be said when the spore dies while controlling your body, this is what I was told.

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:16 PM

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I would think total brain death would be required to avoid it

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:16 PM

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I think you were told some faulty info

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:16 PM

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It was here as well.

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:16 PM

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It can take ur body but ur essence should be fine if ur dead long enough

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:16 PM

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So in the heat of battle, you wouldn't be safe?

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:17 PM

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I don't think so

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Im not sure

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Depends i guess. We need more info

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Cos we now know more bout what occurs during death

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This has implications if souls exist in that work

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Does the soul leave once all brain activity ceases

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Or does it leave immediately upon initial death

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Does it go back into the body if revived

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What bout brain damage?

carmine sleet May 27, 2020, 2:18 PM

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If u die but still have brain activity then the Flood may be able to absorb ur essence
If you're dead, there shouldn't be any brain activity

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Brain activity loss happens after you die

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It doesn't go immediately

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There's a few minutes between the body's organs' shutting down and brain activity ceasing i think

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People can be revived without brain damage if we are quick enough to do it

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Doesn't it depend on the definition of death itself? If the brain cells are still alive then it wouldn't matter if your conscience has left its body, right?

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:20 PM

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No idea

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We don't fully understand how consciousness even works

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If one takes too long to be revived

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the body can be kept alive but the person i brain dead

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there's no one in there basically

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No consciousness

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Right so maybe they wouldn't be able to "latch" onto the conscience.

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Maybe maybe not

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Also the whole soul thing in Halo complicates it further

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Halo avoids talking about souls

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:23 PM

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We know the Flood can survive pattern transfer techniques

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:23 PM

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There’s not really any complexity added there

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:23 PM

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I mean the concept is brought up in FS books

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:23 PM

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FS?

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First strike?

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:23 PM

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The forerunner Saga. The pattern/essence of a person is the closest thing we would call a soul

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:24 PM

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The concept of a soul is usually tied to an afterlife of some sort

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:24 PM

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It is this that the Flood can corrupt so utterly that it can't be reversed even with pattern transfer techniques

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:25 PM

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It’s not like heaven/hell exist in halo, if someone dies and there is no interference, they are just gone, they don’t get transported somewhere

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:25 PM

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The Domain is closest thing to an afterlife in Halo and even thats not a true afterlife

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Forerunners believed all life goes into the Domain upon death

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unless prevented by pattern transfer techniques

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:25 PM

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They had various methods of uploading themselves into the domain upon death

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Yeah but they believed this happend anyway

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without their doing

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Well not all beliefs are accurate postums

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Or at least Didact did

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We don't know

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Given the Precursors made it to contain the wisdom and knowledge and memories of life, its likely their is truth to this belief

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Then theirs the Precursors themselve

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:27 PM

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The domain can choose what info it holds onto and even changes the info inside

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Apparently

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:27 PM

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So if that’s the case then any memory of someone in the domain isn’t the actual person

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Then there's the Precursors themselves, immortal, transcendent

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Just a record of that person

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Close enough for some people

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If there is an afterlife in Halo we haven't seen it

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:28 PM

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It’s smart for halo to avoid that

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:28 PM

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The Precursors are the closest thing to the outright fantastic in Halo

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Would become too convoluted

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:30 PM

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A way to do it if they wanted an Afterlie would be have the Domain upload a copy of the deceased into it to access that knowledge and wisdom later on if wanted while the actual person's essence goes to the Afterlife whatever form that takes.

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But I doubt 343i confirms or denies an Afterlife in Halo verse

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Pattern transfer that the forerunners used to create types of digital constructs seemed more like copy-paste, rather than cut-paste

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Except for the composer. That thing seemed to digitize whatever we define as “consciousnes” of a person

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Does he break it down in binary or something?

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:34 PM

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He?

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:35 PM

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The Composer, unless it is genderless, I don't know too much about that character.

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:36 PM

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It’s a device

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:36 PM

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The Composer is a machine

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Not a being

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:36 PM

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And there's loads

versed helm May 27, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Ah.

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Well, there used to be several

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Most got blowed up

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:37 PM

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If the blueprints are found more could be made

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Pretty sure the Composer’s Forge was also destroyed

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:37 PM

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I think Cortana implied her intent to use them on people

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:37 PM

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She did seem to suggest that

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But you only need one

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Yeah but more than one is better

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if she wants to do it more efficiently

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and quicker

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:38 PM

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But if you can’t make more then you take what you can get

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Sorry?

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:38 PM

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The forge was destroyed by Chief dropping a halo chunk on it

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So it’s likely that more can’t be made, so only any remaining composers hidden throughout the galaxy would be usable

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We don’t know if there are even any left, whether one or more than one

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But making more seems to be out of the picture

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Cortana could have also been talking about some other pattern transfer technique. We simply don’t have enough context

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:42 PM

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True we need more intel

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But she was almost certainly talking about doing the same thing that composers do

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Yes, it sounded very similar to composing

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:42 PM

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She would use a device to digitize people

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There was one on X0

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X50

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Some type of device

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that digitized spartan davis

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It seemed identical to composition from what i remember

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:44 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Could be. We simply don’t know

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People liked to spread this theory that Didact wanted to combine the effects of a halo with a composer, potentially to create some sort of widespread composition (in Halo Escalation)

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This was never confirmed but could be a theory as to why cortana is interested in the halos

jolly furnace May 27, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Maybe

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But as you said we don't even know if that can be done

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 2:58 PM

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We don’t. But it would make more sense than Cortana wanting to kill everyone with the halos

versed helm May 27, 2020, 3:47 PM

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I just found out that 343 spark is still kicking. how “alive” is 343 guilt spark do you think he could make an appearance in infinite ?

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 3:48 PM

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He’s doing quite well. Even has a body with arms and legs now

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I doubt he’ll appear in infinite

versed helm May 27, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Is the body mechanical or biological?

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Mechanical, of course

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He basically constructed a body like a Promethean Soldier

versed helm May 27, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Oh boy, can't wait for Warden Eternal 2 for Infinite then...

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 3:51 PM

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He only has the one body

versed helm May 27, 2020, 3:52 PM

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They might make him a boss (which I really hope that they won't).

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 3:52 PM

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He’s more of an ally to humanity now

versed helm May 27, 2020, 3:53 PM

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I thought that Cortana offered him a place in The Created?

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 3:53 PM

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If she did, he didn’t accept

versed helm May 27, 2020, 3:53 PM

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I see, I presume that he helps ONI then?

limpid meadow May 27, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Spark's story hasn't crossed into the Created storyline as of yet.

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Nah, he’s not helping ONI

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He’s chillin with Sgt Forge’s daughter

pulsar grail May 27, 2020, 3:58 PM

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what a chad

versed helm May 27, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Sergeant Forge. ;-;

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He had an absolute blast with the Forerunner tech though.

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~~and a Big one at that~~

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wait

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343 is chillinbg with sgt forge daughter

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where can i fine this info

humble yacht May 27, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Halo Renegades

versed helm May 27, 2020, 4:32 PM

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thanks

limpid meadow May 27, 2020, 6:42 PM

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You might also consider reading "Halo: Primordium" and "Halo: Smoke and Shadow". The first tells about Spark after the events of Halo 3 (among a lot more), and the latter is the book that introduces Forge's daughter, Rion.

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Not necessary reading, but they'll make the experience richer.

terse lava May 27, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Have to admit, Remegades is the only human focused book I have enjoyed in halo since Ghosts of Onyx

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:09 PM

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You didn't enjoy New Blood?

last anchor May 27, 2020, 7:23 PM

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It was a divisive book to many. For a few reasons.

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I was just glad to read more Buck.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:24 PM

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What were the reasons?

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I presume the Rookie's death was one of them?

last anchor May 27, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Oh thats banned? Alright then...
Try that again

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Oh we're talking about New Blood

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I thought were talking about Bad Blood.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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All good.

last anchor May 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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But yeah, the rookies death is the biggest issue I know people have with it.

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Also a lot of people are KIND of mad that Buck is a Spartan. No idea WHY

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Oh, also Mickey going rouge

near tide May 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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The rookies death sucked

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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I thought it was sad, that's it.

near tide May 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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luckily I haven't played ODST so i didn't care as much

last anchor May 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Also someone said they were mad Sadie showed up.
No clue how THAT works.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I'm indifferent about her.

last anchor May 27, 2020, 7:29 PM

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See I really enjoyed her stuff in ODST so Im glad she came back.

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And it makes sense for her to be Virgil's handler considering what happened

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:30 PM

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It's a shame that the Rookie died but it was kind of necessary. It basically caused the domino effect.

last anchor May 27, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Ye. It lead to Buck being a Spartan.
Which lead to Mickey going rouge
Which in turn lead to Alpha-9 coming back when they're needed most.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:31 PM

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And quite possibly Buck not wanting to be a leader anymore.

limpid meadow May 27, 2020, 7:32 PM

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It is kind of funny, I remember seeing a lot of people just after ODST really clamoring for Buck to be a Spartan, especially given the description for his Firefight voice option in Reach.

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Then "New Blood" happens and there's an outcry against him becoming a Spartan.

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Obviously these are very likely different groups.

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Just funny from a macro POV

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:33 PM

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I'm really surprised in all honesty, I thought it was a great book.

limpid meadow May 27, 2020, 7:33 PM

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I loved it too.

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I'll admit, I had to put the book down when the Rookie died, but not because I was upset at the decision. I was shocked, but in a good way.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:34 PM

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It was a shame but hey, world building.

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Not all of the heroes win.

limpid meadow May 27, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Plus, it's a rather fitting end for a "character" like the Rookie.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:35 PM

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How so?

limpid meadow May 27, 2020, 7:36 PM

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He's a plot device meant to service the story, and he does that in one form or another in anything he appears in.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I see.

limpid meadow May 27, 2020, 7:36 PM

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In "Dirt" and "ODST", he's basically a witness to what's going on. In "New Blood", he becomes the motivation for Buck and Mickey.

versed helm May 27, 2020, 7:36 PM

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That's fair.

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I guess you could say he represented the squad lol.

limpid meadow May 27, 2020, 7:37 PM

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It's really best thing you can do with a character like the Rookie without turning him into something else.

last anchor May 27, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Pretty much, yeah.
Honestly they treated him well but then they went ahead and made Noble Six male and...they really missed a chance there.
Jun could hvae just said "a good soldier" or "a good Spartan" and kept Six's gender unknown but...oh well.
I guess its like Chief talking in games.

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Cause now apperently we know Six is from Jericho VII apperently

obsidian thistle May 27, 2020, 7:42 PM

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;)

fair hazel May 27, 2020, 7:42 PM

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happy birthday

obsidian thistle May 27, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Damask, Jericho VII.

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(And thankies)

fair hazel May 27, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I like all the small details that require frame exploration

last anchor May 27, 2020, 7:45 PM

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343s been pretty good at that

obsidian thistle May 27, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Tis a challenge at times

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That Damask, Jericho VII was lucky

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Still thats the newest lore B312s had for years.

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The last time we got new lore on the character was the og EVG

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(Unless you count the confirmation B312 met Buck so that was one of the missions you play in Reach in New Blood)

versed helm May 27, 2020, 9:54 PM

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I feel like they're trying to make Locke seem cooler by establishing that with Six.

carmine sleet May 27, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I don't see how that info somehow makes Locke cooler

stoic hamlet May 27, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Wait, when did we learn 6 is from Jericho?

gilded mason May 27, 2020, 10:07 PM

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The ONI Archives things

stoic hamlet May 27, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I haven’t watched the newest one (terrible, I know!) was it in that? I don’t recall them specifying in the Reach one.

gilded mason May 27, 2020, 10:08 PM

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It was from a little bio on-screen in the first one

stoic hamlet May 27, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Huh, must have missed it

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Pretty cool

gilded mason May 27, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Had to zoom in real far on the highest resolution to see it

stoic hamlet May 27, 2020, 10:09 PM

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I would have missed it then.

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But yeah aside from us getting a confirmed gender I like the extra canon stuff. Like B-312’s armour.

gilded mason May 27, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Yeah

obsidian thistle May 27, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Well we knew B312s gender since before Reachs launch.

stoic hamlet May 27, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I mean really though, arguably we knew what B-312 looked like from that initial reveal trailer way back when. It’s just good to have it confirmed.

obsidian thistle May 27, 2020, 10:11 PM

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So it wasnt really anything new

stoic hamlet May 27, 2020, 10:11 PM

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It was from that one trailer right? With Halsey’s speech?

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Or am I mixing up stuff?

obsidian thistle May 27, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Well you could argue we knew if from here (link below) first. Then the "A Spartan Will Rise" trailer. Then with a photo of him in Halseys Journal. Then a post-release in the Halo Essential Visual Guide.

https://halo.bungie.net/projects/reach/article.aspx?ucc=personnel

Bungie.net : Halo Reach

Halo: Reach info straight from the developers at Bungie.

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So as said it wasnt new to know that lore on B312.

spiral jewel May 28, 2020, 3:05 AM

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For the AI that did the logs and security details involving the outbreak on Delta Halo, in which it filed a complaint against 2401 ... Did that AI/ancilla in particular have a name?

(Also happy birthday CIA!)

spiral jewel May 28, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Are the Yonhet amphibious by chance, considered that they have gills near their lower jaw and neck?

hardy hamlet May 28, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Sanghelios is kinda space Japan imo

gilded mason May 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Nah.

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It's more European.

radiant tapir May 28, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Grunt go party boom boom.

Only facts here folks.

near tide May 28, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Sangheilios is like japan

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Honestly

shy cedar May 28, 2020, 7:41 AM

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What’s this about extra lore and B-312?

versed helm May 28, 2020, 8:30 AM

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He is from Jericho 7.

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Same planet as Locke.

near tide May 28, 2020, 9:02 AM

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And NOBLE-SIX

versed helm May 28, 2020, 9:46 AM

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-_-

versed helm May 28, 2020, 10:13 AM

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I'd like to see more lore established for the unnamed Shipmaster in Halo Evolutions.

versed helm May 28, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Hi

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Guys

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hello

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I love and know a lot about halo faber

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alright

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same

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Yay

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ske7ch

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Are you into forruners or covenant lore or even unsc

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helmet

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yes i am.

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Cool cool

versed helm May 28, 2020, 12:35 PM

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https://prnt.sc/speqw8 which one is first?

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im new to halo never played before

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Reach.

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 1:14 PM

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I would suggest starting with ce and going with the release order

bright briar May 28, 2020, 1:21 PM

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The release order is CE, 2, 3, ODST, Reach and 4.
In chronological order, it's Reach, CE, 2 but ODST is halfway through, 3 and then 4, followed by Spartan Ops.

obsidian thistle May 28, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Best to do it release order

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Gameplay evolves smoother

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Harder to jump from Reach to CE gameplay wise.

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And ODST to 4. As there is notable gaps in gameplay progression.

limpid meadow May 28, 2020, 1:41 PM

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From a gameplay perspective, release order is probably better.

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That said, you're not really going to suffer much going in chronological order.

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 1:42 PM

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jumping from reach to ce will be hard

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different mechanics

limpid meadow May 28, 2020, 1:45 PM

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The difference isn't all too different from going from CE to 2. Reach is a thrown-back to CE in a lot of ways.

plush tinsel May 28, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Enjoy the fun ride @versed helm

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:16 PM

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wars is before reach

knotty silo May 28, 2020, 2:18 PM

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honestly I find playing the games chronologically is a much better experience

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it really all comes down to if you want to have the lore flow smoothly or want to ease in to the differences in mechanics

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Just remember to read the books if you want to know why or what is happening

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especially first strike

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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You don’t need to read the books to know why or what is happening

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The books themselves aren’t essential

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:26 PM

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how did chief get back to earth from installation 04

knotty silo May 28, 2020, 2:26 PM

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cough cough halo 5 cough cough

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:26 PM

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@lethal comet ...

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cough cough halo 5 cough cough
@knotty silo I understood 5 completely fine without reading books

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:27 PM

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halo 5 doesn't actually need books to be understood

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Halo 4 needs books more than Halo 5

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no book sets up the events of halo 5

knotty silo May 28, 2020, 2:27 PM

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well

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:28 PM

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The only thing you need the books for is to establish the rest of blue team. Off the top of my head The Fall of Reach is needed for knowing those guys.

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And you can still understand 5 without The Fall of Reach

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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you don't really need to know who blue team is beyond that they are spartan 2s who have known chief awhile

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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other books are useful but Halo: The Flood was meh

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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and h5 gives you that on its own

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Exactly you don’t even need to know who they are

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other books are useful but Halo: The Flood was meh
@lethal comet that book is just Halo CE novelized, with a few extra side stories involved in it.

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:30 PM

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my point exactly

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Ghost of onyx has some blue team in it

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Yes Onyx does but it’s not essential at all for the narrative of Halo 5

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:32 PM

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ghosts of onyx is an incredible book ok

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:32 PM

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It is pretty good

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:32 PM

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has nothing to do with 5 tho

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have any books that kinda give a prelude into Halo Infinite

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been released ?

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have any books that kinda give a prelude into Halo Infinite

not yet no.

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Maybe The Shadows of Reach

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:32 PM

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we're getting one in september

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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i don't think SoR is going to lead into infinite too much

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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shadows of reach yeah. september.

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i don't think SoR is going to lead into infinite too much

it probably takes place like in 2559? so no it wont LEAD INTO infinite but it will be the closest thing we'll have to that.

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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was the installation in infinte trailer same as the one in 5's ending

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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yeah. maybe.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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we don't know

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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They’ve already expressed that anybody old or new can play the game and not have any knowledge of the past games. So SoR will not be too heavy on leading into Infinite.

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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i’m pretty sure Halo wars characters are gonna be in infinite

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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i doubt it

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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cuz of halo wars 2 legendary ending

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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That makes no sense

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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They’ve already expressed that anybody old or new can play the game and not have any knowledge of the past games. So SoR will not be too heavy on leading into Infinite

they have 'expressed' it but that does not neccessarily mean it will be totally true?

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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at most, i'd expect an audio log or radio transmission from anders

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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... you don’t know what expressed means do you

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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i don't think SoR is going to lead into infinite too much
The author of Shadows of Reach even said it doesn't lead into Infinite on Twitter as well

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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welp

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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I didn’t know that one

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But I figured that.

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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what covenant-esque faction other than the banishedmight show up then?

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I'll see if I can find the tweet

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:36 PM

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any other covenant remnant

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there are still quite a few

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:37 PM

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some species still aren't buddy buddy with humanity

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Ok, found the tweet I was thinking of from Troy https://twitter.com/TDenningauthor/status/1238112981747204101

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:37 PM

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... you don’t know what expressed means do you

i do. it means that they will try to make that happen. does not really mean that you wont need any info about the lore whatsoever to FULLY understand the plot.

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Click that twitter link Slip sent

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I doubt we will need to know some lore about SoR to understand something in Infinite.

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

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yeah but if you dont know the lore then you will not FULLY understand everything, just as much as the average gamer does.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

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it'll be like going into halo 2 without reading first strike

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

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if you are a lore nerd then you have a higher chance of FULLY understand eveything, thats what im saying.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

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which no one ever seems to complain about

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

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im not complaining lol

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:40 PM

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I don’t think a game is fully understandable in the first place. There’s going to be some inconsistencies.

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But those inconsistencies are barely noticeable

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:40 PM

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people will still not know about the forerunners

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:40 PM

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the domain

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etc etc.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:41 PM

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if infinite truly wants to be a good starting point for new players, then it will provide necessary background info on its own

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:41 PM

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That’s true but those are the little inconsistencies I’m talking about. Plus why would you play a game when you haven’t played the previous games.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:42 PM

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either in straight exposition or in more tastefully incorporated ways

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:42 PM

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if infinite truly wants to be a good starting point for new players, then it will provide necessary background info on its own

yeah thats probably what they meant when they said that.

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hey please no expositions ok

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:42 PM

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If you are jumping in blindly in a game with no previous knowledge there’s going to be something that isn’t going to make sense along the line

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:43 PM

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ubisoft pulls it off

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 2:43 PM

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hey please no expositions ok
Depends how how they deliver the exposition. There's good ways and bad ways to giving it to the player/viewer/reader of a form of media

knotty silo May 28, 2020, 2:44 PM

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show don't tell

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:44 PM

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yeah i meant not the way it was in halo 5

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and death stranding

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:45 PM

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imagine cortana recalling important events of her life in the intro

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:45 PM

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jesus christ

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please

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no

knotty silo May 28, 2020, 2:46 PM

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welp lets just hope the writing and the execution of 343's storytelling has improved

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Why would they have Cortana explaining that lol.

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If anything it would just be an unknown narrator.

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:47 PM

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idk that would make sense ig , or let ONI do the narration

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:47 PM

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How reliable are the mega blocks toys that release? Because they’ve released some halo infinite toys with banished troops

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Not reliable at all. Don’t trust the toys they release there has been toys that have been released surrounding Halo Reach and it wasn’t in the game.

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:48 PM

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welp lets just hope the writing and the execution of 343's storytelling has improved
@knotty silo

the discover hope trailer had more character development and better writing than the entirety of halo 5.

i think theyll nail it.

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:49 PM

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It was a Mammoth I believe, but it wasn’t in the game.

knotty silo May 28, 2020, 2:49 PM

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yeah yeah brohammer was written pretty well

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 2:50 PM

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idk that would make sense ig , or let ONI do the narration
Like all of ONI? You do realise that ONI has a whole load of people working for them, right?

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I don’t think a five minute trailer tops character in Halo 5. Buck was pretty well established, Locke was established he’s known as someone who gets stuff done and is serious with his work. Tanaka and Vale were pretty bland.

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:50 PM

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no i think all the characters were carboad cutouts.

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Like all of ONI? You do realise that ONI has a whole load of people working for them, right?
@carmine sleet I meant like Locke in h2a terminals

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Why did you think that Faber?

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:51 PM

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i dont know man, the new characters were simply bland and non-interesting.

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the already established characters are

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:52 PM

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How so?

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:52 PM

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jsutt not

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Blue team was just as bland as osiris

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they got pretty much the same treatment

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Blue team was just as bland as osiris

yeah.

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and ia hate that

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:52 PM

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People tend to throw the blame on Osiris when Chief and the rest of blue team were just as bad

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:53 PM

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any preference for blue team's appearance in 5 comes from their being featured in previous lore, because halo 5 doesn't do anything with them that's difference from Osiris

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:53 PM

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People tend to throw the blame on Osiris when Chief and the rest of blue team were just as bad

yeah they were, like is said, the writing and dialogue and characters were just awful. weak.

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:53 PM

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I didn’t think Locke and Buck were as bad though.

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:54 PM

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and the discover hope traielr was none of that.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:54 PM

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buck was just nathan fillion being nathan fillion

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I didn’t think Locke and Buck were as bad though.

buck is the only character they did right with.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:54 PM

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it's hard to hate that

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i think it's less they did his character right and more that nathan is a charming actor

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:55 PM

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I mean but still it’s a pretty bold statement to say a five minute trailer establishes more character when Locke and Buck gave us some character in Halo 5

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I don’t think a 5 minute trailer even comes close to the character portrayed in Halo 5.

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Even though the Pilot is more enjoyable

knotty silo May 28, 2020, 2:56 PM

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well compared to the cutscenes and dialogue in halo 5, there was a lot more emotion put into the discover hope trailer than the main story (in my opinion of course)

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:56 PM

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yes, it wa more emotional

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it was also a very different scenario than what Osiris went through

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I liked the emotion he portrayed

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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oh and halsey? remember how halsey behaved in h5?

the new characters were bland carboad cutouts.
the already established characters did not behave like themselves, none of them.

and yeah maybe that was a bot of a hyperbole, but you see my point? i like where this is going. i like the dialogue, the direction, the tone, the friggin music. the everything.

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wayyyyyy better than i did in h5

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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halsey in 5 acted like an older, more scared version of halsey from reach and 4

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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We don’t really have a direction though

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All we know is The Pilot finds Chief floating in space and that’s it. There’s no direction or leads to what could happen.

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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halsey in 5 acted like an older, more scared version of halsey from reach and 4

from that smart and rough woman she's turned into an old grandma

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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she is an old grandma

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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All we know is The Pilot finds Chief floating in space and that’s it. There’s no direction or leads to what could happen.

ok uh, the 'sense' of direction, the feels.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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metaphorical grandma, of course

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even geniuses are changed by trauma

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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A creepy, was completely fine with kidnapping kids grandma

queen otter May 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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We don’t even have a sense of direction really. We don’t know what’s gonna happen.

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We can’t like something that isn’t established

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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"Human science report, log 42. Prolonged observation of the Doctor Halsey supports theories from New Alexandria that human females signal maturity by losing appendages. If my hypothesis be correct, soon the Doctor Halsey will release her spores, and spin a cocoon of rich meat-silk! Truly this is a very exciting time to be making science!"
— Gribyam

versed helm May 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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she is an old grandma

she never ever behaved like an old grandma, she was smart, tough, sarcastic, had a bit of an ego. you know, things that made her character special.

knotty silo May 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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well keeping us in the dark for the story builds more hype for the game

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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she still had some ego in 5

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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I know grandmas with egos

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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she never ever behaved like an old grandma, she was smart, tough, sarcastic, had a bit of an ego. you know, things that made her character special.
@versed helm

and in 5 she was jsut that old scared grandma

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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but again, she was afraid because she knew what cortana was planning

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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ive never seen or read about her behaving like that ever lol.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:01 PM

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in fall of reach and ghosts of onyx, she's less confident and sassy and more depressed and regretful

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:01 PM

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my point is, they took what made the already established characters special and just dumped all those traits for the most part.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:01 PM

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so she's gone through different stages of emotion throughout her life

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besides, consider the context

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:01 PM

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in fall of reach and ghosts of onyx, she's less confident and sassy and more depressed and regretful

halo escalations?,

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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in Halo 5, the enemy is Cortana. Cortana is, at her core, Halsey

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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mhm.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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It makes sense that the only enemy to truly scare halsey would be another halsey

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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alright, that makes a bit of sense.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:03 PM

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halsey may be the only person alive who knows what cortana could truly be capable of

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:03 PM

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do WE know

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 3:03 PM

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cortana did go rampant tho

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:05 PM

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she is not in the ramapancy stage anymore.

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Which stage is she in

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:05 PM

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stage?

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rampancy is a terminal condition for human smart AI

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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The old Bungie version of Rampancy (Which is the one with stages) isn't the same as the 343i version of Rampancy

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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uhhhhh cortana was uh 'cured'

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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cortana is no longer in danger of dying, but the other effects of rampancy have likely permanently changed her

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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she was changed

versed helm May 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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ah

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so like

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she roasted osiris

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shes kinda the same alright

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 3:07 PM

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she showed changes ever since she was plugged into alpha halo's control room

spiral jewel May 28, 2020, 3:07 PM

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I thought the Cortana from Halo 5 was a fragment of the original who perished aboard the Mantles Approach?

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:07 PM

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it was a bunch of fragments

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likely the rampant personality spikes she ejected into the ship's systems

spiral jewel May 28, 2020, 3:08 PM

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And those survived somehow

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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they followed the ship to genesis through slipspace

limpid meadow May 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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They were pulled into Slipspace with the Didact's ship

spiral jewel May 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Thanks Toa and Chimera!

lethal comet May 28, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Why didn't master chief have any internal damage from falling off the dreadnought like red team on reach?

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 3:13 PM

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mark vi has better armor locking

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also it has biofoam injectors in case injury does happen

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 3:14 PM

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He also used a Forerunner door as a shield as well

marble crescent May 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/5/52/S117returnstoEarth2552.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120525081307

last anchor May 28, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Also, he wasn't getting shot at on the way down.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 5:23 PM

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also, max luck stat

haughty urchin May 28, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Did Bungie/343i ever discuss where the naming convention came from for UNSC ships? I've always like the cadence of them.

limpid meadow May 28, 2020, 6:22 PM

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There's really no singular naming convention.

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 6:23 PM

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some ships have really silly names for military vessels

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probably just up to the builder

haughty urchin May 28, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I just always liked the vaguely poetic sounding ones

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Spirit of Justice, Forward Unto Dawn, etc

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 6:31 PM

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UNSC Bum Rush

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UNSC Two For Flinching

haughty urchin May 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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T-those are real?

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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yep

haughty urchin May 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Well

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I readjust my stance on the names being poetic postums

limpid meadow May 28, 2020, 6:47 PM

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UNSC Armstrong
UNSC Gettysburg

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Sometimes they're poetic, sometime they're humorous, sometimes they're straight forward.

feral perch May 28, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Spirit of Fire, Dongo

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I don’t think there’s a UNSC Spirit of Justice

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I think my favorite ship name is the UNSC Say My Name

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 6:54 PM

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i don't have a fave ship name, just a fave ship

feral perch May 28, 2020, 6:55 PM

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which is?

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Point of No Return, naturally

spiral jewel May 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if there is are UNSC ships that have pop culture references for their names

stoic hamlet May 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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There’s a Prowler named “Bad Moon Rising”

Also “Glasgow Kiss”, IIRC.

fair hazel May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Unsc Port Stanley

limpid meadow May 28, 2020, 7:07 PM

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UNSC Heart of Midlotian is named after a soccer club, lol

carmine sleet May 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Wasn't Frankie the one who came up with that name for the ship?

haughty urchin May 28, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Jesus why did I write justice

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I was literally thinking fire

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I was reading about Apollo Justice as the same time though haha

stoic hamlet May 28, 2020, 9:24 PM

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In the spirit of ship names, what are some you’d like to see, if you could name a ship?

I quite like Pawn With A Purpose, and I Vow To Thee.

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One because it sounds badass, and the other is in reference to a British/Commonwealth Patriotic hymn.

haughty urchin May 28, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I could definitely see a UNSC I Vow To Thee turning up to give firing support

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Good name for a Captain to call out

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 9:27 PM

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UNSC Get Off My Lawn

haughty urchin May 28, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I add UNSC Stoic Hammer

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By slapping together cool sounding words

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And to counter it the Covenant battlecruiser Resplendent Wrath With Which I Totally Strike Down These Heretics That Suck

feral perch May 28, 2020, 11:42 PM

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how about the UNSC UNSC?

limpid meadow May 28, 2020, 11:42 PM

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UNSC Facebook

humble yacht May 28, 2020, 11:49 PM

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UNSC Lamb Sauce

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So that someone during a battle can yell “Where’s the Lamb Sauce?!”

feral perch May 28, 2020, 11:53 PM

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UNSC Bungo gud

fair hazel May 29, 2020, 12:31 AM

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UNSC No Memes UNSC Lone Wolf

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But, UNSC Gravity Hurts?

limpid meadow May 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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UNSC Bionicle

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:37 AM

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What we discussin?

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UNSC Bionicle sounds cool

limpid meadow May 29, 2020, 12:37 AM

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UNSC ship names

carmine moss May 29, 2020, 12:38 AM

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UNSC Desired Judgement

limpid meadow May 29, 2020, 12:38 AM

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That sounds more Covenant than UNSC

carmine moss May 29, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Okok true

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UNSC Avenged Souls

near tide May 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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That sounds covie

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UNSC Inferno

carmine moss May 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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UNSC Glory to the Stars

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:41 AM

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AH ship names anyone?

near tide May 29, 2020, 12:41 AM

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?

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Ah?

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Ancient human

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AH

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Its easier

carmine moss May 29, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Fortitude of Night

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:43 AM

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For AH ship?

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Or Covie ship?

carmine moss May 29, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Your choice

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:43 AM

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I wouldn't know what to give an AH ship

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I wonder if AHs have modern names alongside ancient sounding names aswell

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Given their million year history

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Like Forthencho and Bob

near tide May 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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What is AH?

carmine moss May 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Pharaohs' of Time

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Ooh nice

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AH is Ancient human @near tide

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Its what I use

near tide May 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Ah

knotty silo May 29, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Imagine finding some text or technology from ancient humanity and the past users name was b o b

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Or r o g e r

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:46 AM

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It could be

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I mean 1 million years at least of cultures

knotty silo May 29, 2020, 12:46 AM

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True

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Only so many names you can go through before we get to ones we use now

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Heck Yprin Yprikushma sounds half-Japanese

knotty silo May 29, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Well like

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In ah case

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You could just compile a bunch of letters and have a name

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Yah

knotty silo May 29, 2020, 12:48 AM

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You’d really never run out

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:48 AM

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But it would need to be pronoucible

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If its made by humans, we should be able to prounouce them

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and recgonise them as human made

carmine moss May 29, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Disciples of the Grail

knotty silo May 29, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Yeah

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:49 AM

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King Arthur was an ancient human?....

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Joking

knotty silo May 29, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Oop

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Idk I wish ah was explored in a game or sumn

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:49 AM

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The Holy Grail is a Precursor artifact confirmed

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Nice name @carmine moss

carmine moss May 29, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Thank you

jolly furnace May 29, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Tell us more about the DIsciples of the Grail

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U were typing Foil?

knotty silo May 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Nah I was boutta say something dumb lmao

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You know what I’ve always wanted?