Ah, I see
#lore-and-universe
carmine sleet
fair hazel
Linda did have binary rifle in escalation
carmine sleet
That was in Next 72 Hours, right, Ericky?
fair hazel
Yes
carmine sleet
Thought so
jolly furnace
@fair hazel Like even Superman right? As long as it’s organic..
Doesn’t matter how durable when antimatter is antimatter
Annihilating - Tell that to Elite Minors who somehow survive Binary Rifle shots in H4 on heroic difficulty, heck sometimes even normal difficulty.
fair hazel
Haha. Well there is a counter: energy shields.
humble yacht
it shouldn't be a counter to antimatter
fair hazel
Shields?
humble yacht
energy shields are made up of particles
fair hazel
We don’t know what kind of stuff energy shields are made of
humble yacht
halopedia says they're energized particles
fair hazel
I wonder where that part is from. Even so energized particles isn’t detailed enough. So we don’t know what those are made of. What kind?
humble yacht
that shouldn't matter in the context of antimatter vs matter
fair hazel
And antimatter does need its opposite to react. So whatever the shields do... don’t think they interact the same way
Yes. If you take an anti proton and it meets a photon, there shouldn’t be anything significant as far as I know.
next storm
I have a question unrelated to the topic at hand.
How do Sangheili simaltaneously put lots of importance on lineage, but also put their children in schools where they don't learn their lineage?
humble yacht
i doubt energy shielding is made of photons. that sort of manipulation of light is not something the covenant or humanity had figured out by the 26th century
and since binary rifles take out both shields and the person under the shields, it stands to reason that the antimatter comprising the binary round reacts with shields and whatever is being shielding
the real test would be whether the binary rifle affects the hardlight shield armor mod
fair hazel
Family. Through unclage system
next storm
Unclage?
jolly furnace
When u have Elites of higher rank go down in one hit from a binary rifle and elite minors surviving, there's something wrong
or some minors goin down in 1 and other minors not
As for shields, they are likely plasma based
next storm
How does being raised by an influential uncle not get in the way of meritocracy, but being raised by your actual parents would?
jolly furnace
Elite culture ain't my expertise
limpid meadow
Because Elites aren't raised by 1 uncle, but several.
humble yacht
Uncle Ruckus (no relation)
terse lava
@next storm the way sangheili culture works in this regard is to raise the children in a commons area with the other children. This is done to prevent any child from getting special treatment thanks to their parent. This is why the boys are raised by another male figure. This can be a blood related uncle, or even rarely the father themselves with the child not knowing. The linage importance is that of the entire bloodline, the whole clan
A way to bring honor not just on one's self, but their entire family and ancestors as well
@stoic hamleti see what you did there
stoic hamlet
😉
versed helm
I know its said that Sangheili are as strong as most Spartans... but Spartans can flip a tank and we even see Sangheili in games display that capability
I'm assuming is just for gameplay reasons but can they actually do that?
near tide
Spartans are stronger than sangheili because augmentations and armor
though brutes are as strong as spartans
midnight plume
are there any information how the sangheli where defeted by the provets in the first place?(sorry don't know their name)
stoic hamlet
I don’t think a Spartan can flip a tank
terse lava
Yea, the sangheili navy and army had three advantage against the san shyuum, but the keyship could not be damaged by the naval weaponry. However the keyship also couldnt be everywhere at once
versed helm
Its quoted everywhere that Elites are as strong as Spartans, they just aren't as fast
In full powered Mjolnir
Even in Reach we see Elites tackle spartans and even lift a 1000 pound Emile clean off the floor with a single arm, which is an amazing feat of strength
(Also Brutes are stronger than both Spartan and Elites, even in full powered Mjolnir a brute almost choked chief to death in one of the books)
runic inlet
To think that Atriox is even stronger. Slapped 3 Spartans like they was nothing
terse lava
You forget he had his own augmented armor on too
gilded mason
Its quoted everywhere that Elites are as strong as Spartans, they just aren't as fast```
Though we also have examples of SIVs in armor marvelling at how much faster some Elites were than them. So I think it's a bit of a case by case basisWell, aren’t IV’s as strong as II’s/III’s? Not as fast?
It equalizes strength, not speed.
sturdy ice
ok
queen otter
Spartan IIs are stronger
sturdy ice
k
gilded mason
Didn't Kelly's Waypoint article talk about her becoming faster once she got Gen2?
gilded mason
Also, wouldn't strength play a part in how fast you can go?
queen otter
Kind of depends. Strength and speed dont always go hand and hand in some situations though
gilded mason
Though I guess the bigger issue is, I don't recall anything about S4s in armor not becoming as fast as a normal S2.
stoic hamlet
There’s nothing that says it, but it doesn’t make sense to me that they’d be as fast. The speed is part of what makes MJOLNIR so dangerous.
gilded mason
I know there was a (non-scientific) quote about S4s being able to outrun a horse when not in armor, along with (assumedly lessened) base out-of-suit enhanced reflexes and endurance.
Not really sure why Gen2 wouldn't also bridge the gap between S2-S4 speed alongside the noted strength
Oh, Halopedia has this quote:
[...]the GEN2 armor boosts its wearer's reactions, speed, and strength to a greater degree than the first-generation Mjolnir.
With a source leading to an audio interview that I (now) verified did say that.
fair hazel
unclage, uncology,
was that laird's?
you know, when i was thinking about spartans in attack on titans with m yfriend.. i did remember that horse speed
last anchor
Spartans in Attack on Titan...could they even die? Titan flesh is fairy soft...
Fred gets eaten by one, literally erupts out like a 7 foot tall armored chestburster
opal birch
I mean tech wise, AoT is super behind Halo so I wouldn't Titans to be much of a threat to a group like the UNSC.
noble bloom
Mac gun vs titan
last anchor
Overkill
stoic hamlet
And even then at the WW1 tech level they’re at Titans are almost obsolete right?
timber ridge
To be honest I don't get why people hate the artstyle change, it can almost perfectly fit into lore
carmine sleet
I didn't mind it either. Plus, some stuff looks really nice in the H4/5 artstyle, such as the T-54 Banshee
obsidian thistle
The Hesduros pattern is a nice design for a Banshee
winged gulch
lament hornet
That's awesome dude! Let us know how you like em
versed helm
I just ordered halo first strike, fall of reach and the flood
@winged gulch
theyre all incredible
my favourite is first strike. phenomenal book, that.
fresh root
Silent Storm or Fall of Reach for me.
verbal pollen
Where is the best place to find lore not found in the games?
carmine sleet
Halopedia if you don't want to go directly into all the novels and comics
next storm
does the third book in the forerunner trilogy have a dumb twist?
versed helm
not really no.
next storm
so it doesn't have a twist that adds nothing to the story like ||The Didact being a bodytealer or 343 Guilty Spark being a human||?
feral perch
The Didact isn’t a body stealer
versed helm
he's not.
feral perch
And 343 GS being human adds depth to the character
next storm
How?
versed helm
^ yeah i wont call any of it dumb
next storm
I actually threw the book on the last page
feral perch
Richer backstory and more potential storytelling, ala Halo: Renegades
next storm
How does The Didact implanting his genes in the master builder's son then the master builder's son becoming the didact not count as body stealing?
And further more how does that add anything to the Didact?
feral perch
Bornstellar isn’t the Master Builder’s son dude
next storm
Really?
next storm
oh it wasn't master builder, it was just builders
versed helm
yeah, the guy who helped design the halos is his bornstellar's father.
next storm
wasn't that a master builder?
feral perch
The Master Builder is one person, Faber-of-Will-and-Might. Besides that, Bornstellar retained a lot of his own personality, which eventually became the dominant side.
next storm
IsoDidact: "The Didact provided the template for my maturity. I am now all that remains of him, and so I serve in his place."
Chakas: "Bornstellar?"
IsoDidact: "No more, except in my dreams."
feral perch
He didn’t just become a clone of Shadow-of-Sundered-Star and stay that way. 🙃
You haven’t read Silentium, or Promises to Keep, so...
next storm
I haven't read Silentium, I gave up on the trilogy after 343 revealed he was a human
feral perch
Bornstellar is Bornstellar by the end.
next storm
because to me that was a really really dumb twist
feral perch
I like it.
versed helm
bornstellar got the imprint of the didact. which simply means he got the didacts memory and his skills and stuff.
...........................he retained his OWN personality. he is stilll bornstellar.
feral perch
The more I think about it, the more I’m interested in Spark as a character in the current universe
versed helm
because to me that was a really really dumb twist
its universally liked lol. wait arent you the guy who believed halo is fantasy and not sci-fi.
he is still bornstellar.
versed helm
a massive majority likes it?
feral perch
How do you know?
carmine sleet
Spark being human is honestly one of those things where it could've gone either way and it would still be interesting but I think the human-turned AI route was the right choice
next storm
I liked it, you could never tell what he was thinking. He was aloof and one-minded like an AI should be.
versed helm
thats hardly the truth
if you mean forerunneer ancillas then yeah but otherwise no
and i hated him in the games because he killed johnson and whatnot
next storm
He's a good villain
versed helm
like, good games make you hate tthe villain. thats what the OG trilogy did.
He's a good villain
without a doubt, yes.
fair hazel
It’s a mind mowing twist
jolly furnace
I wonder if MB is a least partially made of human essences
Also I wonder if EW is a human composed Monitor
I doubt it in the latter case but the former I could see
humble yacht
Even if MB had been created using the Composer (big “if”), it wouldn’t have been used on humans. Didact didn’t start using the composer on humans until after he’d been logic plagued
fair hazel
No. Before.
After their defeat they were composed and those that were de evolved had the composed souls
humble yacht
That usage wasn’t by the Didact
versed helm
Hey guys i want to get into halo lore, where should i start?
I have only read the graphic novel made by marvel
jolly furnace
Maybe Didact doesnt know MB has human esssences inside it
Seems like something Faber may do without his knowledge or consent
Haruspsis theorized it
After Frankie's comment that not everything about MB is forerunner
Or rather thats its part forerunner, part something more familiar to us
near tide
@versed helm I suggest reading contact harvest, Silent storm, oblivion, fall of reach, the flood, and first strike
limpid meadow
The Didact didn't directly compose those essences but that doesn't mean he couldn't have used them in some way.
jolly furnace
No he didn't but yes he could have used them. Though I would wonder if he'd risk using human essences in MB
Heck Librarian according to Forthencho wasn't willing to risk Erde-tyrene humans imprinted with AH essences being on a Halo ring
limpid meadow
MB was made as part of the plans to fight back against the Flood. Who better to fight the Flood than those who already beat it?
jolly furnace
I know but it is a risk.
limpid meadow
I don't see how
jolly furnace
If they did use AH essences I have to wonder if they contributed to MB's revolting alongside Primordial's arguments to it
limpid meadow
How would the Didact and Faber remotely have any way to predict that?
The Logic Plague wasn't a thing during the Human-Forerunner war
versed helm
i dont think mendicant is even a bit of human. like, its not impossible since everything is possible in fiction, but its HIGHLY unlikely
limpid meadow
Frankie said that part of the MB is Forerunner, part of it is something more familiar
versed helm
when exactly?
limpid meadow
Okay, slight misquote, but here's the source: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/halo-5-guardians-huntthetruth.1013902/page-8#post-156737092
"MB wasn't built with human technology, although he may not have been exactly alien either."
versed helm
hmmm ok its possible
jolly furnace
I would think the Flood used a form of logic plague to subvert AH servitors during AH's conflict with the Flood prior to and during the Human-Forerunner war aswell
limpid meadow
To our knowledge, the logic plague didn't exist during the Human conflict with the Flood.
versed helm
^
limpid meadow
Or more accurately, the Forerunners had no records of it
It's possible it existed and AH didn't say anything about it
jolly furnace
Yeah that's what I suspect
But yeah it makes sense if they didn't know of logic plague then they couldn;t predict it
Hence they'd see no risk of an AH essence exisiting in MB
versed helm
they barely knew anything about the primordial
jolly furnace
Though Librarian wouldn't risk AH imprinted humans being on a Halo according to Forthencho
I could see why if true.
AH essences could potentially possess their hosts and cause issues on a Halo
@versed helm The Forerunners only learned of Primordial for sure after the war ended.
Prior to that they just knew of rumors
jolly furnace
Sanctuary Map Halo 2 ruins - "More ancient than even the Halo itself, these crumbling structures may have been moved, brick by brick, from a Forerunner homeworld...[3]"
I wonder if that could be Ghibalb if true
But I doubt it given how uninhabitable it was
fair hazel
Ruins discussion. Ever elusive
obsidian thistle
Ah the Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack Manual description. Love that thing
Tis a hidden jem of lore
Even first introduced the Prelates lol
fair hazel
Are they forerunner? Another civilization? Ancient human? Who knows
obsidian thistle
Is interesting to think of all the lost relics like that which were placed on I04.
gilded mason
Who knows
It seems pretty self-explanatory to me?
obsidian thistle
Ones that no replacement ring can replace
gilded mason
Says they were moved from a Forerunner homeworld, and Warlord, which uses the same stone style as Shrine, says it pays homage to a Forerunner civil war.
obsidian thistle
"may have" is key
fair hazel
And some talk about how they might be from a different species tbay was catalogued
gilded mason
"may have" is key
To be honest, the "may have" part seems to be regarding moving it "brick by brick", not it "may" be Forerunner.
And I still have the second part of my statement
jolly furnace
I wonder if Forerunners could just teleport large structures into ships and then down onto the ring like the Asgard beam transporters in Stargate.
That way they could move the ruins without having to do so brick by brick
versed helm
as far as we know, they couldnt do that
jolly furnace
Yeah no indication they can sadly.
Though u'd think they could
Given Covies can do it with their citadels if Halo Wars too is accurate
fair hazel
Wasn’t it indicated that they sorta might have done that?
I thought something about breakpoint ship
jolly furnace
I dont know what breakpoint ship is?
The designers of the Breakpoint said that "The Forerunner structure managed to get inside the planet, because the Forerunners were always teleporting everywhere, and sometimes into the insides of planets" however, they said that this was not canon, and that it was just speculation.
obsidian thistle
The same ship in the campaign
@jolly furnace
I will say that ship. It keeps popping back up here and there xD
last anchor
Apperently one of the VISRs in 5 is made using some of the data from its core
terse lava
Beginning to think that vessel is a crashed builder ship
versed helm
last anchor
Makes sense to me
jolly furnace
Yeah i assume its a Builder ship that crashed
fresh root
Why not a warrior servant ship? Just a thought.
fair hazel
I’m not going to assume which class
gilded mason
Okay?
fair hazel
Well I rather not until we really have some good evidence
Or indication
One ship that looks cool is the despair class
I would like to see an animation of one in action
terse lava
It does look pretty good, though it is kind of just a glorified fighter craft
spiral jewel
Stupid question: how many people from Epsilon Eridani II (who safely fled from the planet from it's glassing) are aware that John was still alive.
If I recall correctly two of John's friends were partially or fully aware. But I could be wrong
Also... Did John and Emile know each other despite being from two different parts of the planet?
last anchor
Probably not, considering that Emile wasnt born when John was taken
jolly furnace
The ship under reach ice shelf doesnt resemble warrior servant design
granted this was prior to that class style existing but i'd rather it not be made one of theirs cos as I said it doesnt resemble there style
last anchor
They'll probably never tell us the rate
jolly furnace
Who knows
lethal comet
Where did the flood on delta halo get biomass for the gravemind and combat forms?
fair hazel
The more I look at it the nicer it looks. That despair is wow
vivid rover
i s master chief a forerunner
gilded mason
No.
vivid rover
cause in combat evolved
the robot thing is speaking to him like he activated the rings before
gilded mason
Guilty Spark was just mistaken because he's a bit unhinged.
gilded mason
Yes.
gilded mason
As in belonging to the same family?
gilded mason
Rtas has the name Vadum, Thel has the name Vadam.
vivid rover
ah
gilded mason
So they are not related
vivid rover
u hyped for infinite
gilded mason
Not yet. I need to see more to get a clearer picture.
vivid rover
i wonder if they will show 117's face in it
how long have u been playing halo for @gilded mason
gilded mason
Since CE came out.
vivid rover
so 20+ years
gilded mason
Less than 20 years
vivid rover
like 19
gilded mason
Yeah
vivid rover
in halo 2
the terminals
that elite who is talking to 343
is that the elite who you hunt in the beggining of the game
gilded mason
Yes. Sesa 'Refumee.
gilded mason
Yes.
versed helm
Was Sargent Johnson ever seen in Halo Reach and no,i'm not talking about the Firefight voice
carmine sleet
i wonder if they will show 117's face in it
We've already seen Chief's face in other Halo media
Was Sargent Johnson ever seen in Halo Reach and no,i'm not talking about the Firefight voice
We do not see Johnson in the campaign of Halo Reach
versed helm
That sucks
gilded mason
do thoes terminals continue in halo 3 and 4
No. The 3 terminals and 4 terminals both show different stories
gilded mason
Sesa? Nope.
versed helm
We've seen what John looked like as a kid and i guess teenager
carmine sleet
not his whole face
We've seen his full face in some comics and the Fall of Reach animated series
gilded mason
That's fanmade, FYI
fair hazel
Whatever that image is, it’s not canon
gilded mason
If you didn't know
versed helm
Imho,it's best to keep John's face a mystery
near tide
Seems non ca on
vivid rover
@versed helm facts
carmine sleet
Why say it was a Chief face reveal if you know it's fake?
vivid rover
cause it is
versed helm
Same with Noble Six and The Rookie's face
vivid rover
was noble 6 a spartan 2
gilded mason
No
vivid rover
i once saw a vid claiming he was
gilded mason
He was a Spartan 3
carmine sleet
why arent the halo wars games in mcc pc
Because those two games aren't part of MCC on console due to not being FPS Halo games
was noble 6 a spartan 2
Six is an S-III from Beta Company
versed helm
Jorge was the only Spartan II on Noble Team
near tide
Where do you get your information @vivid rover so far it all seems incorrect
vivid rover
youtube
carmine sleet
Who on YouTube?
vivid rover
I only started playing like 4 months ago so im new
near tide
Ah
vivid rover
idk, random vids
fair hazel
Ladies and gentlewomen, place your bets
carmine sleet
My bet is Halo Follower
near tide
HiddenXperia
versed helm
Halo Canon
gilded mason
Me
versed helm
So,what could actually kill a Guardian other than a Huragok
carmine sleet
Halo Canon wouldn't get info wrong like what generation of Spartan Six is
vivid rover
@carmine sleet so by not playing those games, will that cause me to miss out on certain points in the mcc collection
gilded mason
Nope
carmine sleet
No and you didn't need to tag me
gilded mason
Halo Wars games are their own thing
near tide
Could a NOVA take down a guardian
vivid rover
ah
gilded mason
NOVA bombs are insane. So yes.
carmine sleet
NOVAs would be overkill on a Guardian
gilded mason
God, I hate them.
versed helm
How many NOVA bombs does the UNSC have?
gilded mason
Very little.
fair hazel
Probably only a few
vivid rover
I dont get the beggining of Halo 2 ANVS on PC, it shows Lock talking to arbiter, saying how he is hunting 117. i thought Locke hunting 117 was a halo 5 thing
fair hazel
What? Why would you say that?
gilded mason
I dont get the beggining of Halo 2 ANVS on PC, it shows Lock talking to arbiter, saying how he is hunting 117. i thought Locke hunting 117 was a halo 5 thing
Sadly, 343 included a Halo 5 teaser in H2A
vivid rover
ah
versed helm
What about the weaponry of a Covenant ship?
near tide
Yep
vivid rover
it was sick though
near tide
Pladma torpedoes maybe
carmine sleet
A halo ring cannon thing seen in Shadow of Intent could damage a guardian
That wasn't a cannon, that was a prototype Halo, which wouldn't do anything to a Guardian because Guardians aren't organic
near tide
Snd possibly massed energy projectors
vivid rover
who created the flood
fair hazel
I don’t get why youd say that. Halo ring5pro type isn’t..
You know when I saw that ring. Or read. I thought of bornetellar’s dad I think
Perhaps it was one of his creations.
near tide
The prototype damaged the Shadow of Intent
versed helm
What about crashing a ship into a Guardian like some huge battering ram?
gilded mason
who created the flood```
They were possibly accidently created by the Precursors that turned to dust to save themselvesAlso, I doubt any normal weapons the unsc or covenant have could take out a guardian
vivid rover
ah
carmine sleet
What about crashing a ship into a Guardian like some huge battering ram?
Seems pointless to attempt as they'd just EMP or destroy the ship before it hits
vivid rover
so who created the forerunners
gilded mason
Precursors.
versed helm
Precursors
vivid rover
cause they wanted them to have the mantel?
near tide
Kamikaze with blowing reactors up could possibly damage a guardian
versed helm
Could a ship like the Mantle's Approach take down a Guardian?
gilded mason
I guess. It was the Didact's...warship, I think?
near tide
Yep
gilded mason
So yeah
vivid rover
Ostral which elite is that in your pfp
gilded mason
My character, Orta 'Rakom. Drew it myself.
vivid rover
dope
gilded mason
Thanks.
vivid rover
what's the point of a gravemind
versed helm
I get the feeling that the reason as to why they created the Guardians was because humanity was becoming too OP or something
gilded mason
what's the point of a gravemind```
Originally? I guess to provide a face for the Flood.I get the feeling that they created the Guardians because humanity was becoming too OP or something
Not for humanity, they were created to help enforce the will of the Forerunners and police entire systems
versed helm
I mean story wise
gilded mason
I think they mean out-of-universe
so if flood is made up of precurser, why do they try to eat everything```
Because they're now after revengeThey want all life to suffer
fair hazel
Reading and experiencing the stories themselves tends to be more satisfactory then being told answers. Duck
gilded mason
How far into the games are you?
versed helm
How chaotic was the writing process for Halo 5?
vivid rover
I played reach, CE, and 2 just now
fair hazel
You should read the books too
gilded mason
Ah.
fair hazel
Start by halo the fall of reach
vivid rover
wait so did the precursers create the forerunners too
gilded mason
Yes.
vivid rover
yeah im gonna get them
near tide
Or contact harvest, silent storm, and oblivion for chronological order
vivid rover
they created them to have the mantle?
near tide
Then fall of reach
fair hazel
Fall of reach is my recommended first read
versed helm
I like to know how the Precursors tested who was worthy of the Mantle
fair hazel
But I wonder if I should recommend a specific friend of mine to start with battleborn
vivid rover
https://www.amazon.com/Halo-Contact-Harvest-Joseph-Staten/dp/0765354713 many people told me this one
gilded mason
The best order would be release order
carmine sleet
Important thing about the Mantle, it's not really all that great of a thing to "hold", given that it's basically just all about one race ruling over all the others. It is not some sort of physical thing
fair hazel
It’s ideological
versed helm
An imperial peace
vivid rover
so forerunners passed the mantle to the humans?
fair hazel
The Mantle is, well it depends on the wielded how they enforce it
The surviving forerunner group did. Yes.
gilded mason
Inherently, it can only cause harm if held by one species.
vivid rover
why were the forerunners created is what I am confised about
fair hazel
The precursors creates and seeded much life
versed helm
So what other races did the Forerunners waged war upon besides Humanity,San'Shyuum,The Flood,and the Precursors?
vivid rover
why did they wage war on them?
gilded mason
Control, I assume
vivid rover
ah
fair hazel
Well. They’d enforce the mantle
vivid rover
did the forerunners want the humans to have it
gilded mason
why were the forerunners created is what I am confised about```
Warfleet says this:
```The Forerunners were [...] raised up by the Precursors to serve as their assistants and adjuncts.```ah
versed helm
And didn't,i think Cryptum mention that humanity wiped out several species or something?
I think it was before their war with the Forerunners
gilded mason
Truth didn't want the rest of the Covenant to find out ascension wasn't a for-sure thing.
Since they thought humans were Forerunners that were left behind from the previous Great Journey
gilded mason
Goodbye.
vivid rover
ty Ostral
gilded mason
👍
vivid rover
117 out
fair hazel
And Yet, the despair clsss looks awesome still
neat pelican
yo is halopedia full of bs and not halo alpha?
boreal bane
?
neat pelican
I had an argument with my friend about rear admiral upper half and lower half being the same rank as O7
Which means for him that O-10 would be FADM
Like this kid is picking up stuff from halopedia
gusty star
Yes, Halopedia tends to be more up-to-date.
neat pelican
So like his right or something
opal birch
No
opal birch
Rear Admiral Lower Half is O-7, Rear Admiral Upper Half (or just Rear Admiral) is O-8
opal birch
But Halopedia is the more up-to-date halo site
neat pelican
As if O-11 never existed which is a wartime 5-star rank
opal birch
Well I was former military so I can confirm that
opal birch
FADM hasn't been used since WW2. Marines
neat pelican
Ah nice
So what is it with Halo Alpha
What is it I can believe in them because the way I see is
opal birch
Haven't gone on it.
opal birch
I know that Halopedia and Halo Nation were in the process of merging.
gusty star
Not sure what you’re talking about, Halopedia lists sources for almost everything.
neat pelican
Ok
opal birch
It might be a simple matter of just contacting the folks who run the site for clarification
neat pelican
It just says halopedia is written and ran by halo fans
opal birch
but there is a core group of folks who run and maintain it
neat pelican
Hmm
hot nymph
Something that’s occurred to me for quite a long time- why wasn’t Thel commissioned to fight the banished at all as arbiter?
Was it literally like too suicidal of a task or smt?
I know the real explanation is like, because the banished weren’t a thing at the time of halo 2
gusty star
Because the Covenant had trouble even keeping track of where the Banished were. Also there were more pressing matters at hand at the time.
opal birch
As far UNSC ranks go, it's just the US military rank structure anyway, so just tell your buddy that
hot nymph
I mean the only real threat that Sesa Refumée poses is the fact that he can spread word of what the halo rings are for
I guess that makes sense
It would break the covenant
If it got out
Sesa was such an underrated character though, like nobody really saw how honourable he was tbh
And how willing he was to do the right thing
All he had was the personnel on Threshold
Oh and that expeditionary force on an anniversary map that I’ve forgotten but they’re gone now
humble yacht
I’m not sure if honorable is the right descriptor
gusty star
He was also seated right next to the most sacred artifact the Covenant had ever found.
humble yacht
He willingly unleashed the flood to try and stop the arbiter. He also surprise attacked Arbiter before he was ready
hot nymph
Well yes he was but he was trapped on threshold
Oh of course
He did release the flood
lethal comet
the flood would have died in the storm
hot nymph
Yk that massive part of the halo 2 campaign
The flood can survive the vacuum of space
Flood fleets (god that’s a mouthful to say out loud) could do that
Im quite sure the spores would’ve been carried and swept/deposited elsewhere
lethal comet
Btw from where did the delta halo flood get its biomass from?
hot nymph
By the storm*
Uhmmm I’m quite certain that the biomass remained from forerunner-flood war
humble yacht
Nope
hot nymph
Wait no
lethal comet
the outbreak occured a few thousand years after the firing so were there any sentient species on the halo
humble yacht
Probably not
hot nymph
But the gravemind was poetic, and his combat forms could pilot vehicles
Meaning the outbreak may have been recent
lethal comet
it was too early for any other species to become space faring
hot nymph
Or it could’ve been as a result of just added biomass
Its poetic nature hints at something sentient
gusty star
Quadwings.
hot nymph
Yet again I don’t think the outbreak could’ve made a gravemind so quickly
Do we have like a flood timeline?
lethal comet
the gravemind still thought of itself as a precursor like the first gravemind
hot nymph
Don’t mind that
Stupid idea
Idk actually though
If it still thought of itself as a precursor then it can’t be recent
humble yacht
That’s not true
humble yacht
The gravemind retains its memories from previous incarnations
lethal comet
it capture penitent tangent
hot nymph
That makes sense now
If it retains its memory then it doesn’t matter what life it consumes
So it could’ve been fairly recent
radiant herald
Is the Gravemind on Delta Halo a new one of was it formed previously?
hot nymph
But how did it get so much? Couldn’t have just been quadwings
radiant herald
Cause it's be neat if he retained memories of KeyesMind in CE
lethal comet
the outbreak took place at approx 97000 bc
hot nymph
I’d have loved to see some dialogue about keys between the gravemind and chief actually
That would be amazing
If written correctly
radiant herald
"you punched my host in the head, wtf man"
hot nymph
Can’t graveminds remember things from proto graveminds?
lethal comet
the flood was still kinda in the feral stage
radiant herald
So the outbreak in 93000 BC, was that the original outbreak or the outbreak on Delta Halo?
radiant herald
And in nearly 100k years they never commandeered a ship to escape that ring... then how long did the war between the forerunners and flood last?
Cause we had planet sized flood organisms and such
hot nymph
It was longer than 93k years ago
lethal comet
the flood on delta halo didnt have tech
hot nymph
Yeah
radiant herald
No ships on Delta?
hot nymph
After the firing of the rings it was desolate
radiant herald
Then what's with the foliage?
hot nymph
Apart from any installations that help the ring function
I’m not sure actually, foliage if you think of it wasn’t actually needed
radiant herald
Huh
hot nymph
Considering the function of the rings
lethal comet
the rings had non sentient fauna and flora
hot nymph
Like yk
radiant herald
Non-sentient fauna
Do you mean like microbes and stuff
Cause I'm pretty sure birds and fish are sentient, if they're on the ring
hot nymph
I want to build a kinda Meythrillion themed minecraft base
lethal comet
they survived the halo effect due to insufficient biomass
radiant herald
So the flood targets "intelligent" fauna
hot nymph
Insufficient biomass?
lethal comet
for combat forms and graveminds
eg grunts and jackals
they cant be used for combat forms
hot nymph
Oh yeah
radiant herald
Wouldn't small animals and flora be sufficient to produce infection forms and goopy environments respectively?
hot nymph
Again is there any like canon explanation as to why they’re not?
lethal comet
they are turned into pure forms or carrier forms
hot nymph
Or do the flood just not like them as hosts because they’re too weak?
lethal comet
not enough material to work with
hot nymph
Yeah
Yk like those little monkey things on Transit?
They could turn them into those things but like 5 foot tall
lethal comet
they cant really do much with non intelligent species
lethal comet
thats why the infected pheru couldnt attack
hot nymph
That’s what they’d be ideal for though
radiant herald
Speaking of flood, what are the best Infection Zombies? Normal Spartans in Bungie's games, the Flood in H4, the flood face with the red energy sword in Halo 2 anniversary or the green Spartans and green energy sword in Halo 5?
I like the exploding face of H2A the most
lethal comet
h2a ftw
lethal comet
red swords look good
radiant herald
Green looks kinda goofy and I'm impartial to the H4 Flood forms with the claw hand
H2A > H4 > Bungie > Halo 5
In my opinion, for depictions of zombies
Was sad 343 removed the flood aesthetic after 2 games
carmine sleet
Blame people complaining about how infected Spartans looked in Halo 4 and H2A
radiant herald
H4 was weird I'll admit but I think it was perfected with H2A cause it didn't overtake the Spartan design
hot nymph
H2A is the best
Sorry I’m a bit late
And yes h2A was the best
Reading about corrupter was so cool in my opinion
jolly furnace
Flood can assume different forms and designs to suit their purpose.
I liked the Spartan Flood designs in 4
And remember canonically that is just a simulation
radiant herald
I didn't like the sound effects of them
And yeah it is
All of H4's multiplayer is a simulation
A training mode for Spartan IV recruits
jolly furnace
Again its only an idea of what one could look like made by studies of the Flood by ONI/UNSC
Forerunners on Zeta Halo took a variety of forms when Floodified
From green-greyish skin
to scales on them
radiant herald
Zeta Halo?
radiant herald
Oh
Book
📖 💤
Haven't read any Halo novels but if I was to, where is a good starting point?
boreal bane
Fall of Reach maybe
radiant herald
despite the retconning by Bungie
jovial temple
it's still a good book
radiant herald
Oh that's neat, it was adapted into a Marvel comic then a series of shorts
boreal bane
Get the 2010 reprint, fixes some inconsistencies
radiant herald
Pretty sure that to this day the only extraneous Halo content I've consumed has been Halo Legends and the Forward Unto Dawn miniseries
boreal bane
Forerunner trilogy was interesting
jovial temple
If you liked ODST then I recommend Bad Blood and New Blood
radiant herald
ODST is my favourite campaign
jovial temple
Those two novels continues that team's story
radiant herald
Awesome
Favourite presentation of the games too despite the flaws cause by using the Halo 3 engine
Like insubstantial rain and loading doors on mostly empty streets
And a false sense of open world, choose your next mission style that requires you to walk way farther to do missions deliberately out of order
fair hazel
And the forerunner trilogy featured the despair class fighter.
carmine sleet
You really like the Despair class fighter
fair hazel
I looked at it again recently and it was magnificent
carmine sleet
Were you blinded by its majesty?
fair hazel
Perhaps.
It’s like the more I looked at it and understood it. The better it was. It’s design is like sleek, triple layer, it’s lines and colours are interesting
cloud trellis
how much of a timeskip exists between fall of reach and the flood?
fair hazel
0 days
jolly furnace
O days for a blind slipspace jump from reach to O4?
feral perch
No, it took more than two weeks I believe.
fair hazel
fall of reach ends at the begining of CE and the Flood
jolly furnace
Ah I thought u meant timeline wise in canon not book event coverage
Yeah Reach conflict was July 25, 2552 - August 30, 2552[1][note 1]
Isolated skirmishes on July 23 and 24; final skirmish on September 7
POA arrived to Ring 04 on Sep 19th
stoic hamlet
The Autumn jumped August 30th
stoic hamlet
Ye
jolly furnace
Its just what erika wrote threw me for a loop
They meant fall of reach book event coverage
That ends when CE starts
Cos 0 days for UNSC to jump that distance would be super BS
They ain't sportin flippin forerunner drives
back then
cloud trellis
oh its been sme time since i read reach
it does alot of timeskips
to get chief to be like 40
last anchor
What?>
cloud trellis
yes
scarlet hinge
@neat pelican the UNSC Rank Structure page on Halopedia is directly sourced from Halo: Official Spartan Field Manual (I put the info on the page)
I'd be happy to send screenshots of the relevant book pages if you want to see the original source, but said pages are fully sourced on the Halopedia page too
Halo Alpha's information isn't up-to-date with OSFM, and it includes service insignia images which have never been used in the Halo universe
Alpha is definitely not a trustworthy source, but if you have suggestions on how to make Halopedia more useable I (and I'm sure anyone else on the team) would love to take on board suggestions
carmine sleet
Ok, this is a weirdly specific and odd question to ask but are there any characters in Halo with Hetrochromia? For those who might not know what that means, it's where someone has two differently coloured eyes, such as one blue and one brown
fair hazel
not that i can remmber
gilded mason
I might know one, but I need to double check real quick
neat pelican
Wait what
carmine sleet
Roger that
carmine sleet
Ah, awesome. Surprised I didn't remember that honestly
gilded mason
What were ya wonderin' for, anyway?
carmine sleet
I was speaking with some friends and had the sudden realisation that I couldn't recall any characters with hetrochromia. Due to how my brain works, I normally retain small tidbits like that
gilded mason
Ah
carmine sleet
Aye, and thanks for finding that out, Ostral
gilded mason
👍
grave tide
The h3 interviews say chief dies/MIA in 2580
grave tide
jolly furnace
He could die by 2580 or its just the MIA thing
last anchor
The pre- Halo 3 non-Bungie directed pieces.
jolly furnace
Or 343i could retcon his death by then if true
last anchor
Same ones that gave us "the Second Battle of New Mombasa" that...never happened.
jolly furnace
I don't expect Halo timeline to go beyond the year shown last in the current timeline.
I expect them to go backwards in the next decades
Show us prequels
like H-F war
the forerunner flood war
The S-S war
etc
craggy tusk
s-s war?
last anchor
They covered a lot of that already though, albiet we ARE waiting for Silent Storm Book 3 and Ferrets book 3 so
War of Beginnings, Bloodening war
The Formation of the Covenant
Sangheili/San'Shyuum.
Aka "Broken Circle Part 1"
jolly furnace
san shyuum sangheili war Crpytic
I mean in games
I dont expect games to go past the furthest date in timeline currently
2600 something
I expect games to go backwards in the coming decades for Halo
craggy tusk
i still cant find in the video where it says chief went missing in 2580
jolly furnace
I wonder if the man with the scarring in one of those I Believe interviews is actually scarred for real
Or if its prostheitc
guy at this point
craggy tusk
they said that they had a symbolic funeral for him but it doesnt give a date that he disappeared
jolly furnace
Yeah i saw
craggy tusk
i dont know what that guy was on about
jolly furnace
so no proof he's dead by then
Yeah
Though they were working on 4 at one poin
before picking reach
craggy tusk
i mean the new games dont retcon the believe ads
jolly furnace
I know
craggy tusk
chief could have still disappeared later
craggy tusk
i calculated that by the time of infinite chief would be 51 years old
in the discover hope ad it tells us that its at least 2562
and chief was born in 2511
grave tide
You have vto caulate the date. The video was 43 years after 2552 =2585 then dead by 5 years before interview =2580
craggy tusk
it literally says that the model in the video was begun 3 years ago in 2607
meaning the funeral would be in 2605
even then it doesnt give us when he disappeared
the video is in 2610
grave tide
The recode video of that interview said the battle in h3 was 43 years ago
craggy tusk
it tells us the video is in 2610 43 years before meaning the battle would have had to have happened in 2567
grave tide
The model was in 2610 the videos are before that in 2585 and the battle there talking about is the halo 3 one and since h3 was 2552 and video was 43 years later in 2585 then 5 years before that is 2580
craggy tusk
where does it say 43 years later?
I watched the video and there was no mention of this
regardless it does not say the chief dissappeared the same year as the memorial funeral
grave tide
It say it in the sniper round scene. And it does say chief is dead or MIA
craggy tusk
can you send me a time stamp of where he says this
grave tide
1st few seconds of 8 minute mark
craggy tusk
no where in there does he say the battle happened 43 years ago
it says he hasnt returned to the site of the battle in 43 years
but he could have easily returned the the site once before
grave tide
Unlikely when they say it like that
Documenty userly only point out the time of the battle and the current time from then
jolly furnace
Oh if they mean the memorial service in 3 then 4 has retconned his dissapearance mentioned in this
jolly furnace
Yeah so if thats the one mentioned in the interview
then his disappearance is retconned by 4
craggy tusk
if the video was filmed 25 years after 2552 in 2585 then that would mean the memorial service which happened 5 years before was in 2580
meaning its not a retcon
jolly furnace
I suppose then
he disappears again
either that will happen
Or 343i will retcon that
craggy tusk
does 343i consider the believe advertising campaign canon?
last anchor
Actually technically, he's legally dead
Remember the stuff for Halo 5?
That horrible HORRIBLE add where the actress SOMEHOW MESSED THE DATE UP
craggy tusk
legally dead?
last anchor
I totally forgot that was a thing
craggy tusk
what
last anchor
Yeah, some of the marketing material for Halo 5 has the UNSC declariing him dead to cover up whatever Locke would have to do
Back when there was a lot more to the hunt the chief plot than we actually GOT
grave tide
343i did not recone h3 bugnge did with h3 legendary ending
last anchor
Proper english mate
I'll see if I can find the trailer.
Yep.
Its still all canon though (well, most of it)
Minus the "wounded against the statue" one
dusk pendant
I think it was great.
craggy tusk
it had literally nothing to do with the game
grave tide
The inter view was 43 years later not 25. 2595
craggy tusk
it might have been supplemental but it in no way affects the core story of the game
last anchor
ANYWAY.
If we assume that ONI doesnt reveal Chief is in fact alive after the Created are dealt with then perhaps the Believe trailers take place AFTER that.
So he gets his symbolic funeral in the 2580s, someone finds Six's helmet after they start rebuilding Reach.
craggy tusk
most likely he disappears again sometime after infinite
last anchor
One with the domain with Cortana, I can only hope. Let the man rest
craggy tusk
assuming nothing happens to him in infinite
last anchor
Vanish into the universe like Amaru Rey
grave tide
The h5 marketing is not cannon
dusk pendant
:3 someone
last anchor
Most of it is Jet
Only one that isnt is the Chief vs Locke one.
The guardian/pauncho one from ages ago isnt
grave tide
All live action stuff for h5 is not cannon
last anchor
The one where they reveal Chief is dead is.
They mentioned it in Hunt The Truth
Which is also canon.
"Reveal" anyway.
craggy tusk
wait what was the actual year chief was listed as "dead"
last anchor
Same year as Halo 5 takes place. 2558
craggy tusk
why is he listed as dead?
grave tide
H5 was in2558 and live action stuff is 2560 so not cannon and the game did not show them having any time to do that
fair hazel
Really killer
last anchor
Unfortunatly for ONI, they didn't realize that A) Chief was in the right as usual and B) not even Osiris can stop the Chief.
fair hazel
Rogue. I didn’t expect you to make that mistake out of so many people
last anchor
Rouge from ONIs view.
AWOL. Rouge. Off the grid. Whatever you wanna call it
Again, Chief was in the right as I said
fair hazel
I am disappointed
craggy tusk
well this is pointless chief is clearly still alive in 2562 and he was proven right, so they would have had to retract the statement
gilded mason
John is green, not red, Orca!
fair hazel
In you.
craggy tusk
it would make no sense from a propoganda standpoint to keep him as dead during the created conflict
last anchor
They'd have to at some point, but they cant now considering the Created are kinda just...doing their thing all over the human sphere.
craggy tusk
they would want him alive as a morale boost
last anchor
Since the created control the media and the public outlets.
So OFFCIALLY hed be dead most likely but ONI can say what they want inthe background.
We'll see
grave tide
2590 he is comfermed dead unless some foruner thing happens and that's 27 years after infinite so not dead for Long time yet
feral perch
It looked intentional, if innocently so
last anchor
No, its supposed to be Rouge, like Rouge Squadron.
feral perch
It’s spelled Rogue, though.
jolly furnace
It's uh Rogue.... Rogue One
feral perch
Rogue One and Rogue Squadron are two distinct things within Star Wars
versed helm
It's been a whie since i last read last Voyage of the Infinite Succor, is it true that Bero Kusovai got infected by inhaling Flood spores?
I swear i don't remember the Comic saying so
jolly furnace
U didnt get my joke Stornado
vivid rover
was master chief depressed
feral perch
🤷🏼♂️
hearty seal
just started halo 5 campaign and who is this jul mdama guy
dusk pendant
Nope. Dad was just tired of losing people.
dusk pendant
And losing mom
main rivet
@versed helm it’s not really clear. I like the comic but it’s pretty hard to actually tell what’s going on in a lot of frames, it took me years to actually notice the panel where Halfjaw loses his mandibles.
With that said in general the canon has always been pretty inconsistent on the idea of how infectious spores are.
stoic hamlet
I always figured Spores themselves can’t infect you, but they allow infection forms an easier time.
terse lava
Is it not implied that's what infected Kusovai? @stoic hamlet
stoic hamlet
Yeah. And one of the marines from Mona Lisa, IIRC, but the examples of people not being affected by the spores is higher than those who are affected......so.....
gilded mason
Maybe it's gotta be lodged deep in there.
terse lava
I think a single one would cause breathing problems and a vast amount would cause infection because you are right. We so see in the forerunner saga that it took many spores to infect the forerunner builders traveling with Riser where he was fine.
Even with the excuse the flood let Riser be in purpose, it still took many spores to infect the forerunners
stoic hamlet
So maybe it’s like a specific time has to occur before infection takes hold? Otherwise it’s just disorienting or slightly harmful, but not explicitly fatal?
gilded mason
I'll change a line on Orta's backstory from "a spore" to "spores", then. 🥴
terse lava
Well it really just makes no sense if the spores alone can do so much damage. Otherwise why make infection forms?
gilded mason
They can move?
terse lava
So can spores, drift through the air
gilded mason
Though not purposefully
terse lava
They might if I recall from Primordium, think they piled themselves on Riser and the forerunners pretty good
He brushed them.off the next day, the forerunners were a blob of merged flesh
jolly furnace
The spore mountains blasted spores down on the area riser and the forerunners were in
I think
And riser mentioned it was moving up his skin
over his face etc
they basically covered the 3 of them completely as if smothering them
I think
Yeah he was fine.
The other 2 - bye bye
Flood spared riser
quiet umbra
was the Maginot Sphere essentially a giant energy shield like the one on Scarif in star wars?
terse lava
No, it was a defense grid composed of millions of line installations which were capable of shooting any vessel passing through, whether in real or slipspace. It's first known use was a defense system during a forerunner civil war 500,000 years before the flood war. @quiet umbra
quiet umbra
Bless
terse lava
👍
quiet umbra
You ever just run up and grab a small child yelling "As per Naval Code 45812, you are hereby conscripted into the UNSC Special project SPARTAN-II."
carmine sleet
That wasn't how they kidnapped any of them
wild shard
Can anyone pls send me a list or a picture of all the ranks for Spartans . Pls
Pls send me a dm if you can
gilded mason
Spartans either have a normal navy rank, or if they're in the Spartan branch, they only have the rank "Spartan"
wild shard
Like you start as a recruit
terse lava
With the 4s I guess son as for the 2s and 3s...not so much
next storm
@frosty heart so what happened in Halo: Reach was a story where you know from the outset of your doomed fate.
I don't know exactly what confused you about reach's story
versed helm
it was remarkably simple lol, just like all stories bungie make
rapid nest
One message removed from a suspended account.
next storm
I meant I don't specifically where they got confused
humble yacht
best to just ask
half apex
shouldn't red team be super young
because of the time they spent in cryo because of rehabilitation
and the fact that they spent another 28 years in cryo
after halo wars 1
humble yacht
yes, biologically, they're quite young
half apex
and why do i feel like all of red team have the exact same physical appearance
half apex
ok but get rid of the mjolnir
they still have the same body
think about it
for starters they have the same height
humble yacht
you've never seen Red team out of their armor
they have the same height because, again, they all have the same armor
also, they're not actually the same height
cerulean sand
They're all the same height in their armor but not the same height out of their armor?
humble yacht
they just look the same height in their game presentations
it's not like they're standing right next to each other, shoulders squared, getting measured
cerulean sand
I was thinking, it would be hard to have a team of people of different heights and stuff them into armor that would make them all equal sizes
queen otter
That was pretty confusing you stated it like it was a fact that they were the same height in armor but outside of armor they weren’t.
humble yacht
it's not like each suit is custom built for a particular spartan
Chief's Mark VI suit was tested by another spartan before he got it
humble yacht
Maria-062
She played with the armor and then gave it her seal of approval, and it was then sent to Cairo Station
haughty urchin
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I used to be super into the Halo books but haven't read anything since Ghosts of Onyx. Is there a list of the best post-343 literature to get up to speed?
obsidian thistle
My recommendation is to read Mythos.
haughty urchin
I mean like the best few to not hit a lore wall, if you get me
obsidian thistle
Mythos gives ye a jumping board for a lotta media.
humble yacht
what do you mean by "Lore wall"?
haughty urchin
Just like overwhelmed by changes, sometimes with external media you'll try and read the next chronological book and there's important stuff from a graphic novel you missed or something
Was just wondering if that was the case or if it's all p smooth
And thanks, Mythos is the forerunner ones right?
obsidian thistle
Mythos is the book that goes over most Halo media before Halo Wars 2.
humble yacht
mythos is like a collection
The Forerunner trilogy is a set of novels that focuses on a particular point in Halo history
haughty urchin
Oh silly me I was thinking of Cryptum
obsidian thistle
If there is something in there you like. You can probs find a book or comic that goes into bigger detail on it. (Mythos)
humble yacht
Primordium, Cryptum, and Silentium do get pretty deep into the rabbit hole, but they're pretty self contained. no other halo media leads into them, outside of Halo 4 (and some terminals in halo 3)
obsidian thistle
(And some isolated stuff here and there but thats getting obscure and non-vital)
Hmm
These may be a good idea.
🙂
They have gotten good reviews as of late. And are focused on Chief.
@haughty urchin
haughty urchin
Awesome, I'll give it a check
I'd love to read more about Fred as well, I'm massively biased to him just from my love of Travis Willingham lol
Do you guys have any personal favourite novels/comics/stories?
carmine sleet
Ok, first, Travis Willingham is a wonderful person. Second, my favourite Halo novel is Halo Envoy. Grey Team are some of my favourite characters
haughty urchin
Oh I remember I got a million audio book adverts for that one haha
main siren
So I guess I should give Halo Envoy when I can
light kiln
Does the UNSC employ animals fo4 combat? I know they have ships and departments set aside for zoological research, but what of attack dogs?
gilded mason
Against the Covenant, I feel like that'd only annoy their soldiers and just get the dogs killed.
jolly furnace
Attack dogs would be slaughtered
haughty urchin
I'm curious, where the mechs you see in Halo 4 onwards ever discussed in lore before H4?
Or were they invented like post 2552
humble yacht
Mantises?
carmine sleet
They were made late into the war but didn't see widespread use until the post war era
humble yacht
?
carmine sleet
The mech from Adrift
jolly furnace
The giant mech in the center of a map yes
obsidian thistle
Fun fact
We see a version of it in Halo Wars 2 😉
@jolly furnace
The Halo 4 one is the Mark II (D)
The Halo Wars 2 one is the Mark II (J)
obsidian thistle
No idea.
We have no canon sizes for both of em.
If Halo Wars 2 is to be believed in scale (it shouldn't) its bigger than all the other mechs in the game. https://www.halopedia.org/images/6/6a/HW2-Johnsonmechs.png
jolly furnace
Cool
fair hazel
The art does depict it
obsidian thistle
Though it makes Johnson look huge.
fair hazel
He’s at the front
obsidian thistle
Like wow he'd be a giant xD
Even considering that, he'd be too huge for the Cyclops xD
Granted even the gameplay image showcases that
frosty heart
@next storm I dont really know what nova team’s goals were. Were they trying to retrieve cortana the whole time?
humble yacht
Noble Team? They had several different goals throughout the game
jolly furnace
Maybe its just Johnson;s reanimated head attached to the Mech
humble yacht
First, investigate a disturbance
frosty heart
Idk why it was just hard for me and my friend to follow
frosty heart
What were they hiding
humble yacht
each mission is pretty much a different objective
carmine sleet
You learn that in the game, MoMode
carmine sleet
Did you skip the cutscenes?
frosty heart
I couldnt find a youtube video that explained the story
No
I was talking while playing so wasnt playing full attention ig
fair hazel
Did you pay attention..?
humble yacht
if you want a full synopsis, search "halo reach" on halopedia
fair hazel
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