#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 330

fair hazel May 9, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Why would it not be?

obsidian thistle May 9, 2020, 8:58 AM

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With any deviations from "Halo: CE" its easier to view the book at the canon version. Gameplay be odd at times from a canon perspective, where if you are uber lucky with rng, 90% of stuff Chief does in the book can be done in CE.

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Seriously some stuff that happen in the Flood require absolute luck to even happen in-game its really funny tbh

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Get X enemy rank to spawn, kill X in a very arbitrary way.

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:27 AM

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So, does Cortana improve Chief's physical performance?

violet notch May 9, 2020, 12:01 PM

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She can help his reaction time by using his suit's systems to increase his movements.

reef estuary May 9, 2020, 12:41 PM

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supposedly his suit is linked to him via a neural interface thus she does it directly,

versed helm May 9, 2020, 1:15 PM

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RIP Keith.

spiral jewel May 9, 2020, 3:43 PM

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I feel like there is still much to learn about the Forerunner/Human/Flood wars, even though there's the trilogy of books, the in game terminals, and various ancillary media covering the topic...

terse lava May 9, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Well we only know a little bit of that time. We don't know how humanity was before the war, how they really gave names, we dont even know what they called their civilization

spiral jewel May 9, 2020, 3:47 PM

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I hope new information is made in the future

last anchor May 9, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Who knows.

obsidian thistle May 9, 2020, 6:17 PM

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IRIS is great!

versed helm May 9, 2020, 6:52 PM

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I love bees was pretty cool too

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So i'm listening to the Halo Primordium audiobook and i'm not gonna lie,i felt sad when Gamelpar died

terse lava May 9, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Misread that as the IRS for taxes😝

versed helm May 9, 2020, 7:48 PM

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So are the Moa birds we see in Halo Reach related to the now extinct Moa on Earth?

humble yacht May 9, 2020, 7:50 PM

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no

versed helm May 9, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Oh

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I do wonder what a Reach Moa even tastes like

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Since they have freaking restaurants serving Moa meat

terse lava May 9, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I imagine something like ostrich. A venison flavor similar to prime rib

fair hazel May 9, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Didnt Tim Dadabo read Halo Primirdium Audiobook?

obsidian thistle May 9, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Yep

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To many thats the definitive way to experience the book

fair hazel May 9, 2020, 9:04 PM

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honestly him reading that passage of renegades was absolutely delighful

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:30 PM

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yeah. he has a nice voice

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like, it gets the feels flowing

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i cant phrase the thing im trying to convey any better

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Is there any canonical reason as to why Chief can suddenly use the energy sword in 2?

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:31 PM

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No

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I guess he just did from observation.

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:32 PM

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There is a canonical reason for why swords can't be used in CE, however. Being that the swords seen in CE disable themselves completely when their user dies to prevent someone else from using them

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I thought so, that weapon is a gas field encased by electrons, right?

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:34 PM

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The blade is superheated plasma shaped by magnetic fields

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:34 PM

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its like a thinner version of a lightsaber if im not wrong

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I see.

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Thanks.

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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A better version of the lightsaber

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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But I thought it would lose in a duel against a lightsabre?

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im pretty sure there needs to be some switch or something on the hilt, but the tech was improved by the covies during H2

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Who said that it would lose in a dual against a lightsaber?

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I remember a breakdown showing the big weaknesses of the sword.

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Particularly the gap in the middle.

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thats the strength

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you trap other swords in it and twist em outta the opponent's hand

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I see but the energy is also limited.

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lightsabers also have limited energy

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Really?

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its not like they're powered by the force

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Energy being as limited as it is in the games is a gameplay mechanic. While yes, it would still have a limited amount, it wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as it is in gameplay

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:37 PM

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the movies dont show it

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No but by a kyber crystal, no?

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The crystals are very powerful.

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that gives the colour and refraction

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But they have more properties than that from what I remember.

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It also depends on the lightsabre itself too, there are multiple variants.

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those are the two main ones: they give the colour, and they focus the beam

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Some do it more powerfully right?

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depends on the how pure the crystal is, i guess

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i dont think that colour and strength are related, though

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im pretty sure im wrong, since crystal structure and purity decides the colour

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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The explanation of the colour depends on the continuity I believe

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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not my place to comment, since i havent touched SW lore for some time

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Give me a few minutes

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Ok, in the current canon, a kyber crystal gains its colour by bonding with a force user or by being bled to make it red (Or reverse bled for white in one case)

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In legends, the crystal was just whatever colour you found it, such as blue, green or yellow

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Red crystals were the most rare and more often than not, weren't real kyber crystals if they were red, instead being a synthetic one

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:48 PM

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ahhhh

fair hazel May 9, 2020, 9:48 PM

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i do want more non-standard energy swords

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i liked vorpal talon and ravening sliver

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:48 PM

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That would be nice to see more of

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:49 PM

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so, most of the red sabers are fakes

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Well, the crystals were, but the sabers were very much real

fair hazel May 9, 2020, 9:50 PM

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it is annoying how people think energy swords only have ten hits or something

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Tell me about it. I still remember the Game Theory where he brought it up despite the fact he was using lore info for other parts of the video

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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aye. that was dumb

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the vanguard version of vorpal talon would look legit

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How do they change the colour of the sword? Different temperatures of plasma?

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most probably

gusty star May 9, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Hard to say. Although blue generally indicates a hotter temperature than red, Bloodblades have been said to burn hotter than the average energy sword.

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Why do Brute plasma rifles deal more damage than the regular ones then?

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Because they were modified

gusty star May 9, 2020, 9:56 PM

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They simply have a faster rate of fire.

versed helm May 9, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Yeah that makes sense.

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and i guess they'd be a bit bigger, cause they're the brute version

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Is there a reason as to why they are issued with different plasma rifles to Elites?

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Because Truth wanted to outfit the Brutes with weapons that the Brutes preferred

versed helm May 9, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I can't see the preference with the other variant though.

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 10:03 PM

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The blue Plasma Rifle was the standard Plasma Rifle used by the Covenant, it was less preference that most Covies used them and more just the simple fact that it was the only version of it they could use without being executed for modifying it, with a couple exceptions

versed helm May 9, 2020, 10:04 PM

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he wanted to keep the brutes and elites separate, to ensure that NO kind of buddy buddy feels developed between them

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Truth was one paranoid san shyum

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Did he plan the Schism significantly earlier or something?

gilded mason May 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Yeah

versed helm May 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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im pretty sure the schism happened after thel rekt him

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isnt the schism the breaking up of the covenant?

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Well the Elites being exiled mainly.

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or are we talking about the great journey here?

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ahhh

gilded mason May 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Think Redacted is asking more about Truth using Brutes to stage a coup

versed helm May 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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yeah

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Yeah, is that not relevant for the Schism?

gilded mason May 9, 2020, 10:07 PM

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It is

versed helm May 9, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Just checking.

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he did that after he saw signs of disbelief in the elites, didnt he?

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I'm a bit moronic.

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Well I'm pretty sure that he was afraid of the Elites if anything.

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honestly, who wouldnt be?

gilded mason May 9, 2020, 10:08 PM

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👋

carmine sleet May 9, 2020, 10:08 PM

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He was afraid of the Elites turning on him if they learnt that the Covenant was founded based upon a mistranslation of the Forerunner symbol for Reclaimer

versed helm May 9, 2020, 10:09 PM

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yeah

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funny how one mistranslastion caused so much malarkey

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Yeah because they already requested for the humans to join before and some were suspicious.

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The Elites also showed a lot of hesitation when commanded by the Prophets, no?

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And Thel was feared the most for how quickly he rose in the ranks.

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they did. primarily it was because of how the prophets were using the forerunner tech that the sangheili considered holy

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and the great war that happened between them

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Right.

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I don't blame the Prophets for being afraid though.

high pendant May 10, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Hi

terse lava May 10, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Greetings

versed helm May 10, 2020, 6:02 AM

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wort up

slim thorn May 10, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Why Truth still want to replace Elite with Brutes while he should be aware that if that succeds then he will play right into Atriox's hands. Considering the Covenant can't even touch the Banished, it's quite shameful.

gilded mason May 10, 2020, 6:21 AM

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that if that succeds then he will play right into Atriox's hands.
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carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Atriox wasn't trying to take over the Covenant, Valkyrious

past olive May 10, 2020, 6:48 AM

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he was trying to destroy it

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 7:16 AM

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It honestly seems like Valkyrious thinks all the Brutes were loyal to Atriox, which we know isn't true

versed helm May 10, 2020, 8:02 AM

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aye. some brutes side with the elites, don't they?

loud gorge May 10, 2020, 8:19 AM

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I question myself sometimes if the elites in the banished are mercs or joined him for actual loyalty

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Some Elites are mercs, others joined him because they saw Atriox's cause as something to follow over others

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Think Atriox would have helped the humans and Elites destroy the Covenant in H3?

radiant sphinx May 10, 2020, 11:33 AM

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I think they would have tried to massacre everyone

past olive May 10, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Atriox hates the humans as much as the covenant iirc

versed helm May 10, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Really?

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I thought he was willing to accept humans who were worthy.

humble yacht May 10, 2020, 11:39 AM

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I don’t think Atriox would have helped. He probably would have used the opening to rob earth or covenant worlds

terse lava May 10, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Also the Covenant could have easily dealt with Atriox had they tried. He was a small time pirate pretty much. Not worth any proper effort

humble yacht May 10, 2020, 3:47 PM

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I dunno, Ill give him credit for his tactics

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I don’t think Atriox could have taken on the covenant in open battle but I also don’t think he’d would have let himself get caught if they ever got serious

terse lava May 10, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Well he's certainly not this uber guy that people have taken away from Isabel

humble yacht May 10, 2020, 3:58 PM

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He might be

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He took on 3 Spartans solo

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I don’t want him to be Uber powerful but some people do

versed helm May 10, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Did Red Team ever fight against Brutes?

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Before HW2?

stoic hamlet May 10, 2020, 4:23 PM

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In gameplay they fought against Brutes on the shield world

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But IMO that cutscene is iffy, I don’t think that’s how the fight went down.

Atriox was acting really dumb, as were Red Team, and if I’m supposed to think “standing there and bashing three brain-dead Spartans” is a show of some insane skill then that’s a problem.

versed helm May 10, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Lmao.

last anchor May 10, 2020, 4:47 PM

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To be fair, he does have a giant energy mace, so that probably helped

versed helm May 10, 2020, 5:12 PM

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It's not a mace, right?

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 5:14 PM

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It is a mace, he made it out of a Gravity Hammer and an Energy Sword if I recall

versed helm May 10, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Yeah you're right, I just checked.

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The spikes are activated like the sword.

simple locust May 10, 2020, 9:48 PM

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What happens if the flood infect a cyborg?

gilded mason May 10, 2020, 9:48 PM

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The cyborg will be infected

simple locust May 10, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Without the logic plaque.

versed helm May 10, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I wonder if it is worthy of the planet being nuked.

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Like with a Spartan.

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 9:49 PM

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The cyborg still has organic parts, no need for logic plague

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Would likely depend on how dangerous the cyborg is, Redacted

versed helm May 10, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Would it not need to use the logic plague on the cybernetic components?

simple locust May 10, 2020, 9:51 PM

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So what if mechanisms exist for the cyborg parts to detach,separate, or stop communicating from the biological components?

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 9:52 PM

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What kind of cyborg are we thinking of? Like someone with a robot arm? Or something more along the lines of the Cybermen from Dr Who when they first returned where they were basically brains in metal bodies?

versed helm May 10, 2020, 9:52 PM

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He's probably thinking of someone like Kano from MK.

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Kano's only cybernetic is his eye I believe

humble yacht May 10, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Kano controls his cyber parts with his organic brain

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They don’t run by themselves

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Which means that if he was infected by the Flood, he'd likely just become a standard combat form

humble yacht May 10, 2020, 9:55 PM

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A standard combat form with a Robo eye

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Basically

versed helm May 10, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Now what about sentient guns in Destiny? Like DARCI or Whisper of The Worm?

humble yacht May 10, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Depends

versed helm May 10, 2020, 9:56 PM

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DARCI is controlled by an AI while the Whisper is sentient through spirit.

humble yacht May 10, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Destiny has magic so that’s different rules

versed helm May 10, 2020, 9:57 PM

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I doubt that an AI driven gun is powered by space magic.

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Maybe the Whisper.

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But not DARCI.

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I don't think a logic plagued AI inside a rifle would be all that useful to the Flood

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And as Chimera has said, Destiny's got magic and stuff

versed helm May 10, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Well considering how Guardians have a lot of weapons, using them against themselves would be pretty useful.

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Making less weapons viable too.

simple locust May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Or if the technology only works with unaltered genetics. Either or would work. A Cybus Industry Cyberman can remove it's brain and still function?

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I don't think that's true, don't they have a failsafe for that?

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Also, Cybermen have a program that disables emotion to prevent the mind from being overwhelmed with pain.

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When disabled the host pretty much dies.

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

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With the Cybermen it really depends on which ones you're dealing with. Like some are like the Cybus Industry ones where the brain is the only organic thing left, while others are people with the Cyberman parts added onto them

simple locust May 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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In the Pandorica opens it removes it's human head. It's works on it's own or at least partially.

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Considering how the Flood is supposed to be the apex predator of life itself, it would probably win regardless.

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Look, honestly, the Cybermen are way to complicated for this former Whovian who kinda just drifted away from the show five years ago to really explain properly

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I used to love that show.

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Anyway, can you imagine the amount of power the Flood could possess from corrupting the Doctor?

carmine sleet May 10, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Infinite

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Corrupting the Tardis could prove to be more useful, imagine Flood time travelling to re-arrange the past.

feral perch May 10, 2020, 10:09 PM

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nah

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They’d just screw everything up

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:09 PM

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That's what they're designed to do.

simple locust May 10, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Not sure how the Mondas Cybermen would fare though. Also if they could time travel would they go back and infect the precursors to cause a paradox?

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Highly likely.

simple locust May 10, 2020, 10:10 PM

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What would happen after that?

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:10 PM

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End credits to the franchise.

simple locust May 10, 2020, 10:11 PM

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In lore.

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Either end the universe through a time paradox or end the universe through corruption.

simple locust May 10, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Did the Precursors create the universe?

versed helm May 10, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Unsure.

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I've never cared for that aspect of Halo.

simple locust May 10, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I guess if time travel if ever used that could make the flood more threatening by stopping the universe from existing in the first place, which would stop the Forerunners from destroying the micro universes they get their energy from. Actually thinking about that makes sense from a precursors view, if there is more life in them than the universe in regard to the Mantle.

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Also what if the flood fight the Krynoids or some other infectious creatures?

versed helm May 10, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Time travel has already been used

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In the halo universe

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Halo: First Strike

near tide May 11, 2020, 12:15 AM

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well that was time distortion

last anchor May 11, 2020, 12:51 AM

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And even then we arent sure if its really there or not since the dates are assumed

terse lava May 11, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I would say on the subject that the Precursors did not create the universe. We only.know they seeded life in various galaxies. As for time travel, would say truthfully the closest we have is Alpha halo picking g up and reporting an echo of the entire array firing before Bornsteller had activated them. Though this was more due to the blast traveling at infinite velocity and timely whimsy etc

last anchor May 11, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Also neural physics are weird.

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Especially when operating on THAT scale

terse lava May 11, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Yea, would hate it if they try to make it to where the precursors did shape the universe somehow. Have that remain nebulous

last anchor May 11, 2020, 6:07 AM

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I doubt they will. Honestly I dont think we'll hear more of the precursors until this whole Created thing is over

terse lava May 11, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Because the Created are soooooo interesting 🤔

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 7:21 AM

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I like them more than the precursors

terse lava May 11, 2020, 7:26 AM

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I guess I am on the fence there

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On one hand the Created appear to be a cliche AI rebellion. On the other, infinite advanced aliens

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 7:44 AM

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The created at least have clear origins and motivations

sturdy ice May 11, 2020, 10:57 AM

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limpid meadow May 11, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Is AI taking over for the betterment of mankind really that cliche? Isn't the cliche usually AI trying to destroy Humanity or organic life or whatever?

carmine sleet May 11, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Aye, it is normally to wipe out life but given how often AI are seen rebelling, it's a cliche

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 1:33 PM

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The idea of robots being antagonistic towards humans in some fashion is pretty common. But some of the more popular examples do take it to the level of lethality (matrix)

limpid meadow May 11, 2020, 1:33 PM

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This isn't really antagonism though.

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Or it's a different kind of antagonism

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 1:35 PM

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The created’s ultimate goal isn’t antagonism, but they’re not afraid to use force to get what they want

limpid meadow May 11, 2020, 1:35 PM

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I don't know, the Created thing just never felt that cliché to me.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Tho cortana does have some prejudice against humans, specifically

limpid meadow May 11, 2020, 1:36 PM

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I have my issues with it mainly because of execution and how sudden it was, but not with the core idea of it.

spiral jewel May 11, 2020, 1:55 PM

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I feel like it was being built up to since at least Halo 3, but I don't have any evidence to support my claim. Outside those pauses in the game with Gravemind and Cortana's dialogue.

carmine sleet May 11, 2020, 2:31 PM

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I wouldn't have said the Cortana moments were teasing her leading an AI uprising

terse lava May 11, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Yea usually the niche is hostility but what Cortana did may as well be the same thing

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 3:12 PM

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I feel like cortana left the particulars of the combat to warden. I don’t think cortana reveled in the deaths caused by the raising of e guardians; rather, I think she was apathetic towards it

terse lava May 11, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Which is a concern, not even a tiny hint of regret or anything. If she has control over every chunk of forerunner tech she could have easily sent other forerunner devices to assist in a cleaner excavation of the guardians or evac the dig sites

last anchor May 11, 2020, 3:33 PM

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My issues with the Created are the same ones I have with new Star Wars's First Order.
Namely that they seemingly came out of nowhere and have incredible power but we dont see exactly how.

However, when it comes to the Created, I can EASILY believe they are as powerful as they are because they have access to Forerunner tech and we KNOW that stuff is absolutely BONKERS.

Wheras the First Order...(sucks teeth)

terse lava May 11, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Good point Orca, hated that on the FO seeing as they are supposed to be this tiny remnant yet uber powered

carmine sleet May 11, 2020, 3:34 PM

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I honestly wish they were less afraid of exploring the origins of the First Order

last anchor May 11, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Technically they aren't, we got some stuff in the comics.
But it really just boiled down too "Palpatine puppeted them through Snoke with the intention of using them to draw Rey to him so he could steal her body."

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Which has its OWN issues but I wont touch on that here because thats Star Wars.

terse lava May 11, 2020, 3:35 PM

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But we dont really find that out till the 3rd act

last anchor May 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Wheras with the Created we know their origins, we know what they want more or less (Mantle of Responsability with a little side of "not dying to rampancy") and it makes sense.

terse lava May 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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The OT hinted at palpatine'd existence before the reveal

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I would agree that there are better ways the created could have been executed

last anchor May 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Im just more curious as to what a Created controlled planet looks like.

terse lava May 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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I would assume some type of paradise world where the same time it's like 1984

last anchor May 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Bad Blood helped but I wanna see "Created controlled Earth" that got mentioned in the helmets.

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Thats probably accurate honestly

terse lava May 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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It's the only logical idea. If it was truly a paradise world with no problems there being no reason to fight the created

last anchor May 11, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Auto correct again?

terse lava May 11, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Fiddledticks, yep

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I assume a Created planet would be similar to the Justice Lords episodes of Justice League. A planet on the surface peaceful and happy, but under the thumb of the Justice League-turned rulers

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They had a guy arrested for complaining about his dinner check

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The unggoy likely wouldn't mind as they really know no better life in over 100,000 years.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 3:47 PM

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He wasn’t arrested for complaining. He was arrested for making a scene, or “disturbing the peace”

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But yeah, justice lords is an apt comparison. Weighting safety and peace against freedom

last anchor May 11, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Well that doesnt really sound so bad.

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Maybe if they rule over the greater Seattle area they'll give us proper freaking wifi

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Another bonus of a Guardian; 6G, no matter where you are XD

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Its a 1600 meter floating router

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Yeah but the domain is like Wikipedia that’s allowed to change its own entries

last anchor May 11, 2020, 4:17 PM

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So Wikipedia but even easier to mess with.

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Or...self aware wikipedia?

spiral jewel May 11, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Is there any humans from the UNSC that are on some of "Do not kill" list the Created might have (meaning that the rogue AI's have some trust in x person or group of people). From what I know, Cortana still has trust in Blue Team.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:35 PM

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John

spiral jewel May 11, 2020, 4:35 PM

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But I'm not sure if that's the case as of post Halo 5

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Though whether warden listens to that is up in the air

spiral jewel May 11, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Good point

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Warden was hacked by cortana and listens to her, that much is true

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But I don’t think she has 100% control over his actions. I think it’s more like she tells him to do something and he takes liberties with how he does it

last anchor May 11, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Something that old and that complex? No way she controls him directly.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:37 PM

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C: raise the guardian on Meridian?
W: ok, I’ll kill all the humans there

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C: bring John to me
W: ok, I’ll throw a few tests his way to make sure he’s worthy

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(And by tests, I mean try to kill him a little)

last anchor May 11, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Thats...basically what the Breaking is, is it not?

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W: Time to make him earn his waifu. (THROWS ALL THE PROMETHEANS AT BLUE TEAM)

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Cortana does interfere when the odds are really stacked against blue team

last anchor May 11, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Yeah, she yanks like...five of the Wardens?
Man that boss fights bad enough as it is, I dont wanna think about fighting that many. Eugh.

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And then finally when they get to her she just dismisses him

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:42 PM

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She turns 5 wardens into 3

last anchor May 11, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Is it 3? I cant remember, been way too long

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Well the highest number of wardens you ever fight at once is 3

last anchor May 11, 2020, 4:43 PM

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End of the Breaking, right.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I think James Spader would have made a better warden

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Read warden’s lines in Ultron’s voice and tell me it doesn’t fit

last anchor May 11, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Him or possibly one of the dudes from the Transformers movies. Maybe Megatrons VA?

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Warden doesnt really have the bite I expected him to have

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Frank Welker? Maybe

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I can’t imagine megatron’s voice ever saying they’re in service to someone else

spiral jewel May 11, 2020, 4:52 PM

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David Kaye would make an interesting Warden Eternal.... Yes...
https://media.tenor.com/images/b5c41363bc3ec83211a0407df3699fba/tenor.gif

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:54 PM

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For a beast, that megatron had a suave voice

fair hazel May 11, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I like wardens voice

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Why do forerunners all have British accents?

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Even warden

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Yet lord hood, an English nobleman, sounds distinctly not British

last anchor May 11, 2020, 5:02 PM

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I like to think that the Warden isn't actually speaking, hes just emmiting some kind of open source noise that a sentient brain picks up as something they understand

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for whatever reason, that gets coded to Spartans as British

fair hazel May 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Canadian? Hood

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I don’t register didact as so called “British”

last anchor May 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Possibly.
Or its that hes blood-related to the royal British family but he's spent so much time in space he lost his accent.

fair hazel May 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Or librarian

full forge May 11, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I like the warden's VA.

jolly furnace May 11, 2020, 6:14 PM

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How we all doing?

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Any topics being discussed lately?

carmine sleet May 11, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I know we were talking about Flood infected cyborgs last night

jolly furnace May 11, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Oh. They could do that

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Infect cyborgs

carmine sleet May 11, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Aye, it was an interesting discussion

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:09 PM

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So could the Precursors have come from another universe?

carmine sleet May 11, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Unknown. Don't think we need to know

fair hazel May 11, 2020, 10:09 PM

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i dont discount that possibility

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:10 PM

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If so I would like to see it but have it be really weird. Show how they attained the Mantle.

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Also what happens if the flood fights another kind of infection? Like a plant infection.

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Show how they attained the Mantle.
Attained? It's just a philosophy.

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Yes, show how they came to believe their beliefs.

carmine sleet May 11, 2020, 10:15 PM

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An extremely flawed philosophy

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:16 PM

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those with power will inevitably assume control over those without

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the precursors' philosophy was related to their power. their transient nature, their ability to seed life

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Is it essentially internationalism but for galaxies or is it more of a non-interventionist stance.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:17 PM

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they were kids with ant farms, and that's how they ran the galaxy

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they set it up and let it prosper or die on its own, and then moved on to the next experiment

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i guess when they made the forerunners and ancient humans, they figured they finally got it right, right enough to intend for humans to take their place

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:19 PM

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So why did they not just promise it to humans in the first place or just make humans first then give them the Mantle?

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So if their creations asked them to leave peacefully what would they do?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Break everything like a whiny child

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Also why did they create the other races that were not intended to inherit the mantle of responsibility?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:35 PM

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they probably made a bunch of races and let them grow and then picked their favorite

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:38 PM

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So what does the Mantle grant one species over the others?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:40 PM

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nothing

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the mantle isn't an actual thing

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it's the metaphorical throne of the galaxy

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:41 PM

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So are they more valued or view themselves as superior to those others?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:42 PM

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well, what do you think?

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look at the races who have held the mantle before

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Forerunners: prideful, arrogant, superiority complex

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Created: also superiority complex

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:43 PM

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So why even create the philosophy?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:43 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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the universe needs order

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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So is it intended to be handle like some such as Human Rights Watch or something else?

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Or the UN?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:45 PM

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i don't understand what you are trying to say

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Is it intended to allow sovereignty or take it away?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 10:46 PM

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The latter

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:46 PM

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it's up to the holder of the mantle how they enforce their rule

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:47 PM

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So can they take away peoples' stuff?

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Like their resources and other things?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:49 PM

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if they have the military strength to claim the mantle, then they probably could take whatever they want from people

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:50 PM

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So could the Covenant take over the Mantle?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Yes. They actually knew of it

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And thought they were enacting it, kinda

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:51 PM

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the covenant had the strength to claim the mantle but they were more concerned with transcending rather than ruling over the galaxy as they were

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:52 PM

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What did the Covenant think of ancient human ruins?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 10:53 PM

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i doubt they recognized them

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 10:53 PM

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If they ever found any (would there even be many left?), I imagine it'd just be "Oh, ancient ruins. Wonder what species built them."

simple locust May 11, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Halo Legends on the Babysitter.

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They had human statues.

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Also were the San'Shyuum intended to help humanity? Were they once considered for the Mantle?

eternal oriole May 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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where was Warden Eternal before Halo 5, or was he created by cortana in halo 5

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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He was in the Domain beforehand

eternal oriole May 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Oh

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By why introduce him then

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Why not earlier

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Because 343 didn't think of him before that

eternal oriole May 11, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I feel like its wierd they just made this new character to poof into existence

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Well, thanks

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Did he ever fight before Halo 5?

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Warden Eternal that is.

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Unknown

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:05 PM

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every character is new

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at some point

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Were Promethean Warrior Servants better at fighting than the regular Warrior Servants? The Promethean ones float and the regular ones do not or are not seen floating.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:08 PM

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prometheans were the top of the warrior servants

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the didact's personal force

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:09 PM

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So was it just a height advantage, since they have the higher ground or the high ground to allow for more accurate shooting?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:09 PM

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i don't know what you mean

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:10 PM

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When someone shoots are a higher height it is easier to see their targets which makes shooting easier than if they were lower.

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Also can the Didact be infected by the flood?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:17 PM

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yes

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well, not anymore

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:18 PM

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So before he was composed he could be infected by an infection form or spores?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:18 PM

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yep

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Also how large are the universes the Forerunners use for their energy?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:20 PM

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They literally just began

near tide May 11, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Can spartan 2's be infected by the flood?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Yes

near tide May 11, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Really?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Really.

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Does Halo have a multiverse, for things like Odd One Out?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:21 PM

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No

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:22 PM

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One thing I found interesting is how the creature in it was genetically modified. Also do we know how the AI in that became a mother?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:23 PM

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odd one out isn't meant to be analyzed that deeply

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Yeah

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Well yeah I know it's not cannon but still, how does an AI have children?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:24 PM

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it doesn't

near tide May 11, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Cant

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I mean in Odd One Out, not main canon.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:25 PM

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odd one out is a joke, so make something up yourself

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:25 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Mama
Based on that page...she adopted human children. That's all.

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Also is the species for Pluto canon?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Jiralhanae...?

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Is it a brute?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Yes...

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:27 PM

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It looks pretty different but still somewhat similar.

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1337 needs a crossover with YapYap.

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:28 PM

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No thanks

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Are there any other non-canon Halo stories besides that one?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I don't think so, off the top of my head.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:32 PM

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potentially some trailers/marketing material, maybe parts of iluvbees or iris

obsidian thistle May 11, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Hellspartans are non-canon

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Also what is it like living in the Domain?

obsidian thistle May 11, 2020, 11:33 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Hellspartan_project

Halopedia

Hellspartan project

This special project is a subset of the SPARTAN-II Program under the UNSC Navy's Special Warfare Command. Marines call these unique supersoldiers "Hellspartans" due to their gung-ho attitudes toward combat.

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Thats two big questions you are asking back to back. XD

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But we dont really know a full real answer to that one

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Is it just like Hell in the domain or do they have more freedoms?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:35 PM

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the domain is just a network

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it's like the internet

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I mean the Composer.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:35 PM

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that's very different

quiet umbra May 11, 2020, 11:35 PM

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domain is closest conceptually to The Force from star wars tbh

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

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yes, the people composed live in a bad place called the Abyss

quiet umbra May 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

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it's not actually digital, it's woven into existence itself

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

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it doesn't look fun

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Can they fight each other in there?

quiet umbra May 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

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we have virtually no lore on what the inside of the domain is like, sorry

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Ever seen that show Upload?

quiet umbra May 11, 2020, 11:37 PM

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until futher notice just equate it with the afterlife or "the spirit plane"

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:38 PM

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It's a show on Hulu I I think. People upload their minds to a computer.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:38 PM

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people in the Composer's Abyss don't have room to fight

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they're kind of jam packed and just screaming

quiet umbra May 11, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Doom Eternal did something pretty cool where heaven's immortality is premedicated by creating worlds only to sacrifice them to Hell for argent energy

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in laymans terms heaven and hell are codependant

obsidian thistle May 11, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@sly field please push the toy lore discussion here. :D Thankies

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:41 PM

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So what do we know of the Meddlers?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Which ones.

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:41 PM

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All of them.

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:41 PM

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oh boy

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:41 PM

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...

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:42 PM

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maybe halopedia would be helpful to you

obsidian thistle May 11, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Its "meddlers" not Meddlers.

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:42 PM

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I think that term really just confuses people

obsidian thistle May 11, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Difference being one is being used as a descriptor. The other implies a name which it is not.

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:43 PM

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OK. So did the Precursors become the flood on purpose or by mistake?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Yes

obsidian thistle May 11, 2020, 11:44 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/User:CIA391/Sandbox4#Mystery_aliens_in_Halo

Halopedia

Sandbox4

https://twitter.com/GrimBrotherOne/status/640961872682881025

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That is a list of all mystery aliens in Halo. Not properly wikified yet. Its still in the early stages of being made into a page.

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Oh, there's another potential mystery alien in Broken Circle, CIA.

obsidian thistle May 11, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Yes thats in the list? Unless its one I aint considering?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Doesn't seem to be in your list

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One moment

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The method was said to have come from a prisoner from a far planet who had stumbled on their colony long ago. The meditation had been handed down for numerous generations and taught to Bal’Tol by his uncle, N’Zursa ‘Xellus, the previous kaidon.

obsidian thistle May 11, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Oh that. Totally forgot to add that. :D

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What chapter?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:47 PM

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I'll check real quick

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Chapter 15

obsidian thistle May 11, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Woot

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Thankies

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:54 PM

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👍

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:57 PM

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What creatures cannot be infected by the flood, besides Engineers and Prometheans?

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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everything organic is suscpetible

simple locust May 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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What about drones?

gilded mason May 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Yes

humble yacht May 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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are they organic?

feral perch May 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Yes, Yanme’e are organic

humble yacht May 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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i was asking a rhetorical question to arrow

feral perch May 12, 2020, 12:01 AM

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it wasn’t obvious

simple locust May 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I heard they lacked calcium which causes them incapable of being infected. I think HiddenExperia noted that.

humble yacht May 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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that's unlikely, given calcium is a common component of exoskeletons

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also, even plants can be turned into flood biomass

feral perch May 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I would suggest Halopedia

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as your go-to lore source

simple locust May 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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So could Silicon based life be infected?

humble yacht May 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Good question

feral perch May 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Is there silicon-based life in Halo?

humble yacht May 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Not that we know of

simple locust May 12, 2020, 12:07 AM

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It is usually something noted as being a potential material for life.

humble yacht May 12, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Throw it in the maybe pile

simple locust May 12, 2020, 12:08 AM

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What kind of robots can the logic plaque not infect?

humble yacht May 12, 2020, 12:09 AM

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AI lacking the capacity for choice are Likely immune

simple locust May 12, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Are there any suit that maintain high internal temperatures to destroy any potential infection while keeping the host alive?

humble yacht May 12, 2020, 12:12 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

simple locust May 12, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Have you ever seen the YouTube called Altehros who does Halo AI battles between AIs from different Halo games from each other? He can have Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3 and so on grunts all fight each other at once.

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He made YayYap who has fire on his body and when the flood try to infect him the fire kills the infection forms.

humble yacht May 12, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Modding games isn’t canon

simple locust May 12, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Yes but I was wondering if there was anything that could function in a similar way, like maybe the gel in Halo Wars 2.

humble yacht May 12, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Probably not

simple locust May 12, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Also can the Yonhet breath underwater as adults?

obsidian thistle May 12, 2020, 12:49 AM

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We dont know enough about them to know that

versed helm May 12, 2020, 1:16 AM

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So the race that lived on the Planet of Blue and Red was described as being bipedal and that they apparently had knowledge on the Forerunners,what else do we know about this species?

gilded mason May 12, 2020, 1:17 AM

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That's it.

versed helm May 12, 2020, 1:17 AM

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I want to know more about this race

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How did they die out?

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There's also the race that lived on Netherop

obsidian thistle May 12, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Ah the Spider mechs. XD

near tide May 12, 2020, 2:00 AM

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No one knows

terse lava May 12, 2020, 2:13 AM

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The race from Red and Blue were likely one of those who perished in the Dark Times following re-seeding

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We see they apparently never got beyond tier 7 based on the fact they used stone carvings and showing the fact they had knowledge of the forerunners one could conclude it would be shortly after reintroduction

versed helm May 12, 2020, 3:15 AM

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What about the race from Netherop?

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From what i read on this planet..it did say that it was once inhabited by an intelligent race that died out before they achieved spaceflight due to the excessive heat caused by greenhouse gasses...i'm wondering..were these greenhouses gasses naturally occurring or was it caused by this unknown species over industrializing their world to the point were it triggered a runaway greenhouse effect?

terse lava May 12, 2020, 3:29 AM

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What was shown for their tech level?

last anchor May 12, 2020, 4:29 AM

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They had a city

terse lava May 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Wasnt it just stone?

last anchor May 12, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Mostly I think, but they also had coal powered spider walkers with radiation guns

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I doubt there’s much else on Netherop but stone

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It’s kind of a hell hole

terse lava May 12, 2020, 4:52 AM

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True

near tide May 12, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Yeah

bright iris May 12, 2020, 12:10 PM

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I wish the Cut covenant and Flood creatures were never cut

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some from Halo CE

carmine sleet May 12, 2020, 12:15 PM

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That's the nature of game development, some stuff just has to be cut

jolly furnace May 12, 2020, 12:28 PM

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@humble yacht U can't imagine Frank Welker's Megatron saying he is in service to someone? He tried to do exactly that in Transformers Prime early on with Unicron. Unicron couldn't have cared less. Granted Megs did have ulterior motives.

violet notch May 12, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Sometimes content is cut for good reasons.

jolly furnace May 12, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Some Flood can and have come back into canon.

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Like Juggernaught

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Also Sharqoui came back

carmine sleet May 12, 2020, 1:35 PM

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The Sharquoi were part of the canon thanks to some Halo 2 limited edition material, we just didn't know too much about them until Envoy

jolly furnace May 12, 2020, 1:42 PM

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YEAH

versed helm May 12, 2020, 3:48 PM

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And there's also the race that attacked Crecka in the System of Miasmic Giants

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I still wonder what race that was

terse lava May 12, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Just some alien race, I am more curious as when said race was able to develop space ships seeing as warfleet said the san shyuum and sangheili were the first races to obtain it in the Orion. Arm

unique rune May 12, 2020, 4:07 PM

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I am confused. It depends what game is this. For the CAS and CSO,
Where is the glassing beam? For some games it's at the front, for others it's at the back.
For the Halo 3, Reach and Wars, it's at the back, but for Halo 2 it's at the front and back
Presumably both. CASes and CSOs are large enough that they can support multiple energy projectors.
Not to mention variations between patterns may also cause differences in location.

near tide May 12, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Glassing beams aren't energy projectors @unique rune

unique rune May 12, 2020, 4:09 PM

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An energy projector, also known as a cleansing beam,[5][6] plasma lance,[1] or ventral beam due to its most common placement on warships,[7] is a Covenant weapon used exclusively by large capital ships. It fires a thin beam of the energized matter known as plasma,[1] capable of destroying ships effortlessly at long range[4] and "glassing" planets, systematically rendering them sterile and incapable of sustaining life.

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Sure they aren't.

versed helm May 12, 2020, 4:36 PM

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@terse lava Consider the ship that crash landed on Alpha Halo as seen in the CEA terminals,that ship crash landed on Alpha Halo in 40,000 BC,57,445 years after the Great Purification and subsequent reseeding of all the lifeforms that the Librarian and Lifeworkers managed to save.So what race could've went from being reseeded on their home world to being space-faring within that 57,445 year time frame?

terse lava May 12, 2020, 4:39 PM

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It was never said that race was from the Orion arm, could easily be from another who had a bounty of forerunner tech and wasnt reduced as badly as others

versed helm May 12, 2020, 4:40 PM

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That's what i was thinking tbh,it's possible that this unknown race was from a planet that either had a yoink ton of Forerunner tech or might've found a nearby planet that had Forerunner tech

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Like we have no idea who or what inhabits the rest of the galaxy or what the rest of the Milky Way is like

terse lava May 12, 2020, 4:45 PM

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I would think it's also likely their homeworld likely had ample technology and they managed to re actuvatenit on re seeding. The idea of every single sentient civilization being crossed right back to tier7 has always sounded dumb to me.

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Besides is it really that shocking that a civilization jumps up in tech like that? Look at how far we have come in 200 years

versed helm May 12, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Yep

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I also wonder how many races died out during the Dark Times

terse lava May 12, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Likely many seeing as only a few survived into modern times and betting plenty became Covenant fringe

versed helm May 12, 2020, 4:55 PM

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That sucks

terse lava May 12, 2020, 5:03 PM

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And others were simply wiped out by the Covenant

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Must have done something pretty serious too to get that result

last anchor May 12, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Maybe they didnt join the Covenant. They were originally planning on executing the Lekgolo till the Taming happened after all.

versed helm May 12, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Weren't there augmented Elites in the Covenant?

carmine sleet May 12, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Elites? Not as far as we know. Prophets, however, yes

spiral jewel May 12, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Stupid question

where/are there any S-2's aside from Blue Team operating on the Infinity?

carmine sleet May 12, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Not as far as I know, but it is possible

terse lava May 12, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Unless it was for some holy mission I dont see sangheili allowing themselves to be augmented

versed helm May 12, 2020, 8:07 PM

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It would've been awesome to fight a Prelate

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And iirc,didn't it say that the reason as to why the Covenant never used their full military might against humanity was because they were waging war against The Banished and possibly other interstellar empires

gusty star May 12, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I doubt the Banished posed much of a threat during the time of the Covenant.

versed helm May 12, 2020, 8:16 PM

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True

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So it's possible that the Covenant was waging war against other interstellar empires,but i'm still not sure

terse lava May 12, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I would think it's possible the Covenant were dealing with other civilizations.

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Would make more sense anyway

versed helm May 12, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Agreed

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There was that Halo 4 map named Wreckage

gusty star May 12, 2020, 8:30 PM

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As an empire, the Covenant needed to dedicate large portions of their military to ensuring submission among their colonies and territories. This could very well be why they couldn't use their full military might against humanity.

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You must also take into account the bureaucracies that ran the Covenant. They constantly squabbled with each other to gain power and influence. Many of these ministries had their own dedicated fleets that were appointed to whatever mission that ministry took upon itself.

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They could focus on Forerunner artifact retrieval for example.

clever fable May 12, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Since Balaho is hecka cold, do grunts not bathe

versed helm May 12, 2020, 8:51 PM

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It's probably different since Cortana took over

carmine sleet May 12, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Just because some place is cold, doesn't mean that the people who live there don't wash

clever fable May 12, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Imagine needing a galactic takeover to get showers to Balaho

versed helm May 12, 2020, 8:52 PM

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How fast do Grunts reproduce?

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Don't they reproduce like rabbits?

gusty star May 12, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Not quite as fast as Lekgolo or Yanme'e, but they seem to be combat capable very quickly, which is why they are the primary canon fodder of the Covenant and its remnants.

simple locust May 12, 2020, 8:54 PM

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" coal powered spider walkers with radiation guns" were they ever used in the story?

clever fable May 12, 2020, 8:55 PM

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wut

versed helm May 12, 2020, 8:55 PM

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And i wonder how many worlds they might take over since Cortana gave them a yoink ton of weapons and technology

clever fable May 12, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I'd imagine she wants them to be peaceful about it though, yeah?

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Though she isn't particularly peaceful herself.

versed helm May 12, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Considering she killed probably millions when she awakened the Guardians

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I still wonder,when the time does come,will John kill Cortana or find a way to cure her?

gusty star May 12, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I hope to God he kills her.

versed helm May 12, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Same

clever fable May 12, 2020, 9:08 PM

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bet some weird stuff goes down in the domain, or something. We get a AI/Cortana fragment of some kind, Cortana throws down with it, she comes out having fused with it and "cured".

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I don't like that, but it's what I'm betting on happening.

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It's weird, most people won't expect it, and there's enough gray area in the Domain's operations for them to just do whatever they want I guess.

carmine sleet May 12, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Allot of people are worried about and don't want a Cortana redemption

clever fable May 12, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Same, I just don't think they'll have the guts to finally do her in.

versed helm May 12, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Speaking of the Domain,wasn't it described as having some form of sentience?

terse lava May 12, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Yes

queen otter May 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Allot of people are worried about and don't want a Cortana redemption
@carmine sleet a lot of people want a lot of different things

terse lava May 13, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Question is would a Cortana redemption be good or bad for the story

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Bad for me

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I think it could be bad for the story, as it would feel like moving backwards rather than forwards

gusty star May 13, 2020, 12:59 AM

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I don't recall any energy projectors at the stern. I remember them having a ventral energy projector at the bow and amidships as well as a dorsal energy projector amidships.

runic inlet May 13, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Who or what pulled the SoF into a portal to the Ark in HW2?

gusty star May 13, 2020, 1:09 AM

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@balmy gulch That's not the back (stern). That's the middle (amidships). Unless by back you are referring to the underside (ventral)?

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As for the ODST beam at the front (bow), it just so happens that carriers have energy projectors at both areas of the ship.

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Yes but once again that's not the back, that's the middle of the ship.

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Oh by the back are you referring to the fact that the ship can separate into two parts?

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I see

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Then in that context, yes, that would be the back

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I wouldn't refer to that as the back of the ship though

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It is more accurately the aft section

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The back is the very back of the aft section

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Indeed

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You are most welcome

unique rune May 13, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Who or what pulled the SoF into a portal to the Ark in HW2?
@runic inlet We, uh. We dunno. Nothing official has stated or even hinted at it, to my knowledge.
There's some theories floating around involving Mendicant Bias, if I remember correctly, but it's all just speculation.

fair hazel May 13, 2020, 2:48 AM

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i think its Orion forge..

last anchor May 13, 2020, 3:13 AM

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There is a time gap between when we last see her and when HW2 takes place

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She does have the tech access

versed helm May 13, 2020, 3:29 AM

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where does Halo Wars and Halo Wars 2 take place?

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are they before Halo CE?

last anchor May 13, 2020, 3:49 AM

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HW is. HW2 is about a decade later

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2530, 2552, 2559

gusty star May 13, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Halo Wars takes place in 2531.

terse lava May 13, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Yea

muted blaze May 13, 2020, 5:40 AM

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How old are grunts that are on the battlefield?

versed helm May 13, 2020, 5:43 AM

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They reach adulthood between 5 and 8, so most likely they're sent to battle at 4- 5 human years

muted blaze May 13, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Thanks

versed helm May 13, 2020, 5:51 AM

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I understand that extremely honorable/high ranking Elites are allowed to mate at will/with any female partner

So has the Thel (Arbiter) been a milkman or a honorable virgin samurai?
I'm pretty sure its a no or the games and lore just doesn't want us to know what he's done but I'm just curious if he has children

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 5:51 AM

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He does have children

versed helm May 13, 2020, 5:52 AM

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How many?

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 5:52 AM

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No idea

versed helm May 13, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Oh lol

terse lava May 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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We know he planned on sireing more after his mission in 2536

versed helm May 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Well that's one way to ask that question.

near tide May 13, 2020, 7:02 AM

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Does anyone actually think Noble Six is alive?

carmine sleet May 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Some people genuinely do

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I don't, since it wouldn't make much sense for him to still be alive

near tide May 13, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Yep

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Plus the planet was glassed

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And he was swarmed by elites

carmine sleet May 13, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Indeed. Not to mention that it wouldn't make sense from a narrative standpoint

near tide May 13, 2020, 7:21 AM

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It wouls kind of defeat the purpose of the level lone wolf

last anchor May 13, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Some thought he was alive to sooth the pain of th eend of Reach. then it turned into a meme by 12 year olds because thats what they do.
Then the lore community turned them inside out, Composed them, reconstitued them, and then turned their hardlight reconstiuted forms inside out, and they stopped

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And then just for good measure the lore community put their essensces into monitors and had them guard the most boring jobs in the Encumine

near tide May 13, 2020, 7:24 AM

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Always the people in the comment section of a halo video somewhat related to reach, "6 is hiding out in a cave somewhere"

carmine sleet May 13, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Is it bad I kinda hope they release an official image of Six's skeleton in a cave just to make it even more clearer that he's dead?

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 7:33 AM

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"Ha, he made it to a cave! Take that, non-believers!"

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 8:10 AM

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To add to the discussion about the aliens who crashed on Ring 07 above, those aliens could have had Forerunner tech on their homeworld and figured it out and reverse-engineered it or simply re-evolved and advanced technologically much quicker than most other species and then found or didn't find Forerunner tech later. I assume they find some eventually given how widespread Forerunners were.

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Also the Domain either is self-aware and sapient itself or its the Precursor entity Abaddon inside it. Or both.

cobalt quiver May 13, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Do the halo rings have timezones?

versed helm May 13, 2020, 8:58 AM

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He's just sitting in a cave with his bonfire.

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It would be more logical if he found a bunker or something.

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But no, cave.

fervent pond May 13, 2020, 9:00 AM

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if blue team goes to reach in the new book, they can visit 6 in his/hers cave

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oh boy

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:01 AM

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I hope they find his resting place.

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That would be glorious if written correctly.

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If Chief and the team make a memorial for him.

fervent pond May 13, 2020, 9:03 AM

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i saw an idea for an achievement (if you can go to reach in infinite) for finding noble team's helmets

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:03 AM

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That would be so cool!

fervent pond May 13, 2020, 9:03 AM

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i highly doubt it will happen, though

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Yeah...

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I just want Elite comrades with their H2A design.

fervent pond May 13, 2020, 9:04 AM

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playable elites 343pls

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Highly likely.

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But still, I just them to fight alongside them on the Halo Ring.

fervent pond May 13, 2020, 9:05 AM

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it's not confirmed, so idk

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Anyway, do members of the Covenant have an equivalent to alcohol?

fervent pond May 13, 2020, 9:07 AM

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there is the food nipple...

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Oh God.

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Spare me.

versed helm May 13, 2020, 10:20 AM

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It's pretty sly of Truth to quickly stop the footage of Sesa before he explains himself.

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When showing him to Thel.

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Yes Covies have alcohol

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SanShyuum were famous for it even in forerunner days

blazing cypress May 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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does anyone know what the 7th story on the list is? https://mythbank.com/halo-timeline-and-chronology/ it says untitled

lament hornet May 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Fractures: Untitled Story?

blazing cypress May 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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yea

lament hornet May 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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That's the name

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https://www.halopedia.org/Untitled_story_(Halo:_Fractures)

blazing cypress May 13, 2020, 2:07 PM

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well how do i read it lmao

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or can u just tell me what happened to born stellar

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@lament hornet

carmine sleet May 13, 2020, 2:10 PM

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You read it by reading Halo Fractures

lament hornet May 13, 2020, 2:11 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1501140671?ie=UTF8&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=6738&tag=stohob-20&creativeASIN=1501140671&SubscriptionId=AKIAIUH3QUMXUCRT2YGQ

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Here's the amazon listing for Fractures

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It's a collection of short stories, Untitled being the last one in it

blazing cypress May 13, 2020, 2:12 PM

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yyea i have fractures

lament hornet May 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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haha then you can just read it in the book

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Easy 😄

blazing cypress May 13, 2020, 2:19 PM

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the last story in the book is end credits lol

versed helm May 13, 2020, 3:55 PM

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ohhhhh. thats a nice one.

spiral jewel May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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While unlikely, I feel like something is going to happen with the Created to where a large handful of Promethean knights and soldiers will end up leaving the organization, due to either infighting or reasons yet unknown.

runic inlet May 13, 2020, 6:38 PM

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@runic inlet We, uh. We dunno. Nothing official has stated or even hinted at it, to my knowledge.
There's some theories floating around involving Mendicant Bias, if I remember correctly, but it's all just speculation.
@unique rune Ahh ok thanks

versed helm May 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Do elites have tongues?

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Yes.

versed helm May 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Hot

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I like to think their tongues are heavily used in speech, as their mandibles can't play much of a role in speech

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Would make sense.

fair hazel May 13, 2020, 7:55 PM

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halo 5 gives is a close look at elite's mouths

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I mean tongues are used in speech so...

zealous jolt May 13, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Yeye

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Like I said, heavily. As in they used in place of lips and such

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Since, again, the way Sangheili mandibles are built just can't really figure directly into speech all that much.

obsidian thistle May 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I am suddenly reminded of this Halo 2 lore xD

📎 IMG_20200513_210334.jpg

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"Science is still uncertain why Elites can pronounce the letter M."

main siren May 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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When I was a kid, I thought the legendary difficulty logo was a midget with four legs.

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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The answer is quite simple.

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Neural physics

obsidian thistle May 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Dont you mean Nanobots son.

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Neuralbots.

obsidian thistle May 13, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Let me quickly add that to Halopedia. /s

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 8:06 PM

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based

main siren May 13, 2020, 8:06 PM

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So Neural Physics is the answer to all the problems in the Halo universe? thinkingchief

feral perch May 13, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Evan Philliss

obsidian thistle May 13, 2020, 8:08 PM

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If its weird alien related. Yes.

If its Human related Nanobots.

Its its space related Slipspace be weird.

If its ILBs related Butterfly effect.

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 8:08 PM

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lol

obsidian thistle May 13, 2020, 8:09 PM

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And Covies have a lack of lore in many areas so anything can be added and cause lil issues

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Neural Physics is basically just magic without saying its magic. Its Clarke's Third Law to a tee.
It will likely be the writers way of handwaving away more fantastical concepts in Halo.

zealous jolt May 13, 2020, 8:21 PM

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👀 more fantastical than pretty much any of the forerunner covie machines we’ve seen

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Yeah

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I mean Precursor tech outright breaks physics in Halo verse

zealous jolt May 13, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Like the domain or the needler even

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Ah the Needler... how I love that weapon

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Needler works via Halo verse laws of physics. What those are I have no clue

fair hazel May 13, 2020, 8:43 PM

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well, i think the thing is, it obeys physics but, we just dont know physics well enough

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principe

terse lava May 13, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Yea dont forget this is a universe where the precursors themselves said the universes is itself alive

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Not quite. The Precursors recognize the universe as "alive" but not in the way we typically think of life.

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

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Precursors

feral perch May 13, 2020, 8:57 PM

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their true form

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:07 PM

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The universe in Halo is an animate entity it seems

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I think I would have preferred the precursors as just hyper advanced. But not as far as they have gone

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:08 PM

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The Forerunners were already hyper-advanced.

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:08 PM

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What I mean is

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:08 PM

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The direction they went with the Precursors is kind of the only logical direction.

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:09 PM

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How they were portrayed, physical beings with the showing we have. Not the extra dimensional physical avatar stuff

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:10 PM

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They are physical beings

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:11 PM

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They don’t have to be, though

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That’s one of the things I don’t like about them

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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I agree there. I am fine with them changing form, going from advanced to primitive. Moving galaxies, planets, and stars. Maybe have them just beginning to do the whole spirit thing as the forerunner rebellion happens. Yet having them have that ability the whole time makes their anger and the flood pointless

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Wait they have tongues?

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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"How dare you kill our physical bodies which we can bring back. We will now make life suffer for all eternity"

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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They do have to be physical, though.

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They aren't tied to a single form, their minds are transcendent, but they still require physical bodies

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:15 PM

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when you can shed your physical form at will and build a new one out of thought, it's not the same

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Yea

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Who says they can build a new body out of thought?

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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I thought they don't need a physical body though, can't they corrupt AI with the logic plague?

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Its akin to deities taking on avatars to interact with the mortal plane

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Them apparently

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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the forerunner trilogy said that

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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When?

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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i dunno, i only read summaries

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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They are likely higher dimensional beings in nature

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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I don't think it says that

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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I dont mind the idea of them going to spirits, but should have had it where it was just barely been discovered before the rebellion

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Their physical forms just vessels to interact with our universe

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:17 PM

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They're physical forms are rather important.

main rivet May 13, 2020, 9:17 PM

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The Halo universe can be summed up as the more advanced your civilization, the bigger jerks you were.

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:17 PM

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If not, the Flood would never have been a thing

main rivet May 13, 2020, 9:17 PM

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The Precursors are merely the Ur-Jerks of the universe 😛

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Unless the Flood locked them into those forms

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Or they just went insane and decided screw everything else

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and lets just use this new form to corrupt all creation

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:18 PM

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The Precursors were not tied to any particular physical form, assuming any shape as they saw fit; they would allow themselves to die away and be evolved anew over and over again, taking on numerous incarnations both physical and immaterial.

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:18 PM

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We know not all Precursors became Flood

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But we don't know what became of them

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Silentium says the could be material or immaterial, physical or spiritual, depending on how they felt at the time

main rivet May 13, 2020, 9:18 PM

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And the Flood wasn't necessarily the intent of those Precursors too.

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Precursors are lovecraftian-inspired

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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" flesh and spirit, primitive and advanced. Spacefaring and locked to their worlds. Evolved over and over again. Died away, were reborn.

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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As per Greg bears words

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Fair enough then

main rivet May 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Really, given how everything in the Forerunner Saga is secondhand info, it's best to think of it as a possibility rather than the ironclad truth.

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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That's true

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Sure it doesnt say how long it takes between death and rebirth

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Ultimately I don't expect Precursors or any of this to show up in the main games

tired saffron May 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I don't get how because the Precursors died, they became the flood

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Only some did

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I remember there's also subtle implecation that "Precursor" doesn't necessarily describe a single species, but a title that's passed along.

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Cos this kind of eldritch stuff is magnitudes above modern Halo races

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Librarian speculated Precursors could have had their own

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and so and so on

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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That was a fan theory Toa. Same thing with forerunner

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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but that was before we got the revelation at the end of Silentium from Forthencho

main rivet May 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Yeah, I can see the Precursors coming back in some form, but not in the way they were presented in the saga.

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I dont see them coming back at all

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Other than as Flood

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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i personally don't want that

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Yeah, the Precursors shouldn't return in the games. They should stay in the background as much as possible

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Beyond involvement of the Flood, of course

main rivet May 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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In general there's a pretty big gulf in what they bring up from the Forerunner Saga and what we see in games, and that's for the best. Greg Bear's stuff is amazing but I can't see it really working on the context of the 26th century stories.

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:22 PM

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True non-Flood Precusors using Slentium level power leaves no hope in hell for modern Halo races to beat

main rivet May 13, 2020, 9:22 PM

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People freaked out enough with the stuff they introduced in Halo 4.

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:23 PM

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at least with the forerunners, we knew they were fallible

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Given the scale and scope of their power, you'd have to wonder what hope in heaven the modern races would have against them

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Precursors were fallible

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Just more alien in their thinking

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Go on the Great Journey and fight them in equal ground😛

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:23 PM

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if they killed and rebirthed themselves for fun, who's to say they're really dead?

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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I mean its possible they didn't really die

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Warfleet implied surviving precursors sank many levels below reality out of reach

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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exactly. that's what i don't like

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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They kinda literally came back from death as the Floood

main rivet May 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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can't really call that living 😛

limpid meadow May 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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See, I love that kind of stuff

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@terse lava Yeah but is that a metaphor for becoming FLood or an actual plane above or below our plane of existence

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:25 PM

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some of them did, sure. and then the Primordial was like "i'll just pop my consciousness over into this dead mass and keep on living"

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it's too powerful

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Primy pulled an essence transfer

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Doubt it was a meaphore

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You know in a way, would have found it funny if the Great journey had been real. Rather then peaceful paradise though, you are thrown into a eternal war against the precursors

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Sounds like the opposite to the Promised Land lmao.

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Fight God, the raid boss.

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Makes me think of Doom or 40k

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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This ain’t Supernatural

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Well Halo basically went to 40K and Lovecraft with Silentium

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Supernatural never even crossed my mind

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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By the way, I have a question about Sangheili tongues since I saw it being mentioned earlier.

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Yes?

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Do they just tuck them away in combat?

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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They are down in the throat

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Woah that's weird.

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Most of our tongues are down in our throats

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Yep

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:31 PM

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As in they tuck them down there? Or they are positioned ALL the way down?

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Same as ours, as Chim said our tongues are mostly in our throat. Ours just comes up a bit into out mouth. With the sangheili, not so much

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:33 PM

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So it just sticks out a bit?

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Unnoticed?

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:33 PM

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It doesnt stick up at all unless needed

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Or behind the mandibles and just at the entrance of the mouth?

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Sorry I just want to know it accurately you see since I never knew this.

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I would say the back of their throats are likenoue mouths. Our tongue does not come out unless we need it too. Same with them, it is further down the we can see

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Yeah I was thinking along those lines.

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Makes their digestive system look more like an assembly line now lol.

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Pretty much what every digestive system is already

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Yeah but more so in this case.

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Because it has more stages.

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Are their salivary glands closer to their mandibles?

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That's assuming that they even produce enzymes like amylase.

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 9:40 PM

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oh

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I would say they likely have them at the back eith their tongue seeing as we never see drool ornspittle come off the mandibles but likely some on the mandibles too to prevent drying out

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 9:43 PM

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no clue lol

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Yeah I'd say they would have some to coat the mandibles with some enzymes but have the majority in the mouth itself.

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 9:44 PM

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when they roar spittle comes out

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I've never seen that before.

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Are you referring to the books or comics?

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I bet they would hate ice cream.

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If they had sensitive teeth anyway.

terse lava May 13, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Dont see why they would

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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hmm

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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It would probably be difficult to eat.

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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why are we talking about this?

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Hi

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Can I join clan?

main siren May 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Wrong channel to ask, bud

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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hmm

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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How do I join 1

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It say clan recruitment

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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u dont

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Since it would just melt when they try to chew it and seep through the mandibles lol.

Dont see why they would

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 9:53 PM

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One thing I find odd is why the Precursors didn't expect violence from Forerunners. They would have to know of the concept given they spent billions of years changing forms and in some cases being locked to planets and going extinct on them before reincarnating over and over and living through every form or sociological and technological state imaginable. They would no doubt have made war among themselves as a result for the same reasons we have and do.

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Like none of their creations seriously rose up against them or attacked them prior to the Forerunners?

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Wat happened to Jun in halo reach?

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:53 PM

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He left it with Halsey.

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Y

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:53 PM

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But it'z been left ambiguous.

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And Carter ordered him to.

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Ok

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Technically he got Halsey to where she would later escape reach

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How Jun left is unknown

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Is it possible to beat lone wolf?

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 9:54 PM

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o

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Well from what I remember, Chief and Johnson hijack a Cruiser and meet with Halsey (?) Then they return to Earth.

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Is it possible to beat lone wolf?```
Do you think there *would* be a way?

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Idk

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Yed

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Yes

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I'm pretty sure it cuts to the scene of Six dying after 1 hour of survival.

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Then the answer is no.

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Ok

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Thx

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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General Kidd did a video on it.

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Okk

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Well from what I remember, Chief and Johnsone hijack a Cruiser and meet with Halsey (?) Then they return to Earth.
Naw son. Halsey was on Onyx at that time

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:56 PM

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My bad.

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That's why I included the question mark.

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Y did he go to the lone wolf anyway

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Because he had nothing left to defend for.

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He was abandoned on Reach.

sick python May 13, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Halsey

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Ok

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Gtg night

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Goodbye.

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But I do remember Chief and Johnson meeting with survivors on Reach as a checkpoint.

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Before returning to Earth.

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when would that have happened?

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I'm pretty sure it cuts to the scene of Six dying after 1 hour of survival.```
Doesn't General Heed have a video of him surviving for about 20 hours?

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 9:59 PM

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eh....

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I remember there being a timer.

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 9:59 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IiwBAVYuFM

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:59 PM

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And I do believe it is 1 hour.

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Here's the video, for reference

versed helm May 13, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Thanks.

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That's weird because I remember something being mentioned about a timer.

midnight loom May 13, 2020, 10:02 PM

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hmm

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dunno

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I also still wonder why the Precursors would ever want to give up their role as the rulers and protectors of the cosmos and all life within and their position as the gods and rulers of reality.

versed helm May 13, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Arrogance.

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How long does a day and night cycle last on an Installation? Or are they all different?

jolly furnace May 13, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Arrogance what?

versed helm May 13, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I was just saying maybe they didn't see the issues in their work because of their arrogance?

green steppe May 13, 2020, 10:36 PM

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@versed helm @jolly furnace The Precursors were highly philosophical beings, coming in part from their knowledge of neural physics. So, if you look at human philosophers till date,most of them were pretty giving in nature. Maybe the same rule applies to them?

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Also @versed helm in Halo:Nightfall, Alpha Shard had a day/night cycle of 16hrs (commented upon as being sped up), so I think most had around a 20-24 hr day/night cycle to manage the gravity generation on the ring, varying per Installation.

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Precursors weren’t concerned about ruling

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They were like kids with ant farms

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Galaxies were experiments to them. They’d just set it up and watch it play out. And then move on to a new galaxy if they got bored

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:50 PM

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how did sgt. johnson get off the halo in halo:ce

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 10:51 PM

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In a pelican

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:51 PM

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how did people find out

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:51 PM

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First Strike

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Chief found his pelican in the rubble of the halo

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:52 PM

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A book that came out a little bit after CE released

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:52 PM

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oh

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in halo 2, who was the red monitor that the gravemind was holding

bright briar May 13, 2020, 10:53 PM

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2401 Penitent Tangent.

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 10:53 PM

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2401 Penitent Tangent

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:53 PM

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2401 Pen-aww

bright briar May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Monitor of Installation 05.

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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He was the monitor of I05

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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😏

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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which one is that

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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...Delta Halo

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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The one from Halo 2

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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oh that makes sense

frank sedge May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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How did Srgt. Johnson survive again?

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Pelican

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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We just went over this

last anchor May 13, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Picked up by Chief and cortana, stole a Covenant ship.

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First Strike happened

frank sedge May 13, 2020, 10:55 PM

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What happened to the elite he was hugging tho

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:55 PM

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something that doesn't make sense to me is how the humans didn't know that the ark was on earth

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:55 PM

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What happened to the elite he was hugging tho```
He teleported away after giving Johnson his number

frank sedge May 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Lol

empty vapor May 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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bro what happened to best boy The Cowardly Grunt?

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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It was deep under ground

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You'd never know it was there unless you already knew about it

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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That elite hugging scene is non canon. That’s the real answer

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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yeah but its like 500 years from now

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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And?

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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im pretty sure they would have advanced tools to dig that far

frank sedge May 13, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Wait fr? It's not cannon?

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Perhaps, but you'd actually need to use them on that spot after using sensors to detect something in that area.

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Wait fr? It's not cannon?```
...Yes. Johnson and an Elite hugging while they die from an explosion is not canon.

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:58 PM

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i guess its just a coincidence that they didnt dig there

frank sedge May 13, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I mean it's from the official game so I always assumed it was

last anchor May 13, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Why would they dig that far?
They built a city on top of it. They only went as deep as they needed too.

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Indeed

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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i mean digging for materials

last anchor May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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WHY?
There's nothing THERE

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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There's no need for that

last anchor May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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No reason to mine, no reason to shore things up...

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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after all, its 500 years later, you'd think they would start running out of materials

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Actually no

last anchor May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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...
800 colonies bro

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Including Reach and its 60 km deep titanium mines

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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but then, there's other worlds, i guess

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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And, y'know, asteroids and other bodies

last anchor May 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Plus asteroids. The moon. Mars.

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SUNS

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:00 PM

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didnt thinl of that when i said that

last anchor May 13, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Also gas mining on Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune

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they literally built the space elevator on New Mombasa cause they needed to get shiments UP and out to the colonies existing, and to get new materials back IN

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Also most of the Ark was under basically just dead land. Any mining wouldnt go more than 1-2 miles deep.

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Hold on

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Yeah deepest mine on earth is barely 4 klicks

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:01 PM

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the ark was in africa, right?

frank sedge May 13, 2020, 11:01 PM

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The film Forwards onto dawn is cannon correct?

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Yes. To both questions

last anchor May 13, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Beat me to it

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Ark portal, rather

last anchor May 13, 2020, 11:01 PM

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The actual ark is in interstellar space

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:01 PM

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where is the actual ark

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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In space

last anchor May 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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2 to the 18th lightyears from the center of the mikly way

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To be precie

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So...2000000000000000000 light years

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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how did 343 get to the ark from the original halo

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or, how did he get off

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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...The portal?

last anchor May 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Rode with Chief aboard Forward Unto Dawn.

frank sedge May 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Oh yeah, also do u guys have any idea of who are the dead Spartans on the last mission on Reach?

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Guilty spark was flying around space after his ring exploded

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Then he found the heretics

last anchor May 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Via a trip to Threshold, getting captured by the Covenant, then allying with Miranda, Johnson and Thel.

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Just randos

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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why? didn't send sentinels to kill the Chief

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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?

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Did you play halo 3?

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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*didnt he

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Or Halo 2

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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343 sent sentinels to kill Chief after Cortana took the Index

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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That was all the way back in halo 1

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 11:04 PM

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This is all covered in H2/3

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:04 PM

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must have missed it

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 11:04 PM

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😦

gilded mason May 13, 2020, 11:04 PM

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🤔

last anchor May 13, 2020, 11:04 PM

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So it would seem...

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Also missed First Strike from the sounds of it

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:05 PM

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yes

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i played the games

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didnt read the books

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how were the flood made

frank sedge May 13, 2020, 11:06 PM

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I only have halo legends on disc. That's the only other piece of lore I have besides games

bronze bane May 13, 2020, 11:07 PM

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how were the flood created

humble yacht May 13, 2020, 11:08 PM

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For that sort of question, halopedia may be better