Not worlds
#lore-and-universe
terse lava
Amusing
gilded mason
And Ivanoff Station
versed helm
I’d just hope there’s at least 100-200 worlds
stoic hamlet
I’m pretty sure there’s only 300 or so worlds max. Maybe 400
gilded mason
...343
terse lava
Sounds likely
stoic hamlet
And most aren’t well developed
gilded mason
Or 117
stoic hamlet
Obviously there’s 117 guys, gosh!
terse lava
Ostral. Stop
stoic hamlet
Pay attention!
terse lava
Plz
stoic hamlet
/s
fair hazel
harvest had a population of 3 million
if every world has a pop of 3 million, which they don't. then that would be 2.4 billion
some have way more some have way less
terse lava
I will always get a laugh out of that now from warfleet. Harvest: 0
gilded mason
lol
terse lava
Heh Kinda
gilded mason
Feels like that'd lead to questions, not additional hilarity.
fair hazel
imagine this lone hermit living on harvest
still though for harvest?
the UNSC fought hard for it
essentially what was a dead world.
terse lava
Comedy
fair hazel
i hope the created turn harvest into a lush world again
terse lava
They will, and then we will see it get promptly blown apart by forerunner mcguffin
Hm just realized
You think Nizat and Cole ever faced each other?
fair hazel
i dont think so
terse lava
Hm, if that's the case, who replaced Nizat I wonder until Ripa popped up
stoic hamlet
You may be thinking of Sif
Loki was a he
Sif’s dead, Mack confirms it in the epilogue
spiral jewel
Exactly how many planets had regions/areas that were still habitable long after the planet itself was glassed by the Covenant....
I'm asking as I remember a discussion in this channel about Reach having parts of the planet that were unaffected by the glassing/ were still capable of supporting life, in which there were still people living on Reach long after it's fall to the Covenant
I do apologise if this is confusing and wordy
stoic hamlet
More or less none.
There were areas where you could “live” but it was apocalyptic
spiral jewel
Probably
stoic hamlet
You wouldn’t be able to live for long
spiral jewel
Unless some sort of miracle happened
stoic hamlet
It was like nuclear winter after the glassing settled
terse lava
Makes me wonder if the covenant bothered fixing the areas they glassed during the unggoy rebellion, though I doubt it
warped gust
I've read the Forerunner trilogy, Silent Storm/Oblivion. The Fall of Reach, and The Flood. What should I read next
terse lava
Broken circle
gilded mason
And after that, Shadow of Intent.
iron glacier
Since we're on the topics of books in what order should one read the blue team books for the best experience? I'm trying to read the books and play the games all in chronological order up until Infinite's release
I have Fall of Reach, First Strike, Ghosts of Onyx, Kilo Five trilogy
gonna get Oblivion and Silent Storm
what else am I missing?
besides the new one coming out obviously
terse lava
Well if only focused on blue team, fall if reach, Silent storm, Oblivion, first strike, ghosts of Onyx
warped gust
I haven't read First Strike or Ghosts of Onyx
I wanted a third Troy Denning book that takes place before the Fall of Reach, anyone else feel the same?
feral perch
Eh.
Oblivion was mostly a throwaway novel so I'm not surprised we're not getting a followup
warped gust
I liked Oblivion
feral perch
It has good parts. I'm not saying it was a bad novel, just not very important.
The most valuable information is found in the Nizat storyline.
terse lava
Yes
deep pewter
Silent Storm was similar, but I still really enjoyed it
feral perch
I think Silent Storm was important because of the character development for John and the reveal of how he was awarded his iconic rank.
iron glacier
are there any other novels involving blue team or members of blue team? or is that all of them?
gilded mason
Last Light
deep pewter
That’s more of filling in the blanks, it’s not all that important to the overall story
gilded mason
For all but John
iron glacier
yeah I want the full picture so I'll grab that one as well. When does Last Light take palce?
gilded mason
And I think Retribution has Blue Team as well...? I still gotta read that one so I don't know
iron glacier
gotcha
gilded mason
Last Light is post war, I forget which specific year
iron glacier
I'll look it up hah thanks
terse lava
Th shadows of reach does seem like a promising book if the others are anything to go by
iron glacier
Man I am so pumped to read that one
If they find noble 6 alive in a cave tho I'm out lmao
terse lava
........
Anyone else remember what that sangheili did to that marine, "rabbit" in Mona Lisa? Kinda want to do that to n6 now
iron glacier
just stomp the frickin heck out of his face
terse lava
At this point, I have grown to hate him
iron glacier
In all seriousness it'd be kind of incredible to have an avengers moment at the end of infinite where blue team, alpha nine from odst, n6, and red team all team up for a final battle
deep pewter
I would honestly hate that
gilded mason
Sounds pretty awkward, yeah
iron glacier
ok what about blue team and red team
humble yacht
Nah
terse lava
Red team on the ark right now
fair hazel
a lot of people dont seem to forget how blue team went to reach during their RnR i think
iron glacier
nevermind then I guess I'm dumb
terse lava
Nah not dumb
humble yacht
It worked in avengers because they built up a single arc over several movies. It built up that major crossover event
fair hazel
i mean dont seem to remember
terse lava
Like Cortana?
iron glacier
I mean that's kind of what they're doing by bringing Blue Team back in with Halo 5, and then reforming Alpha Nine and putting them on the Infinity at the end of Bad Blood, and Red Team is actually on the Spirit of Fire, which jumped to, guess what planetary system
lean karma
Yeah but mainstream people are just now realizing that because of the new halo books out
@fair hazel
we also get grey team back from that ONI chick in one of the halo books
humble yacht
Spirit of fire is not in a planetary system
gilded mason
Red Team is actually on the Spirit of Fire, which jumped to, guess what planetary system
What's the Ark gotta do with anything?
humble yacht
It’s outside the galaxy
fair hazel
i liked that part of the afll of reac h animated
lean karma
I mean just thinking about it the Ark is full of forerunner stuff right?
fair hazel
well its made by them so..
lean karma
thats why the Jirilhane went back to become powerful again.. not talking about atriox but the others and annexious
humble yacht
I don’t think ostral was questioning the ark’s overall importance
lean karma
hmm wdym then?
gilded mason
Yeah, just its current relevance
humble yacht
Just what it has to do with some sort of crossover
Which is what that other guy is arguing is being set up
lean karma
i mean just looking at the infinite trailer my wild prediction is the flood comes back and that halo ring is broken.. and the ark has like stuff to fix it
cause of the trailer
deep pewter
I don’t see the flood coming back
lean karma
but then there was the promethean stuff we see in that trailer as well like in the halo 4 trailer
terse lava
The flood cant come back yet, it's too early
lean karma
gotcha
humble yacht
i03 didn’t need to go back to the ark to get fixed
lean karma
i guess that does make sense
terse lava
It's too early because the primordial said the flood would fully return again when humanity was ripe and arrogant
iron glacier
sorry, Anders is on the Halo that was launched to the Soell system I missspoke.
Soell system is right next to the system that Reach is in
humble yacht
It got intercepted early
lean karma
i feel like we will get some sort of endgame like halo game with all the different people from books and series crossing over and chief will have an iron man moment where he saves the universe like a badass
terse lava
Humanity just got their butts handed to them thr covenant for decades, and now are dealing with ai rebellions
deep pewter
Please no to all of that
gilded mason
Same
lean karma
same
gilded mason
That just sounds silly
lean karma
its just a weird gut feeling
humble yacht
I don’t see that happening
deep pewter
It was silly in avengers, it would be worse in Halo
terse lava
Well it does work in avengers, because comic book logic.
lean karma
right
iron glacier
I mean the MCU was literally building to that moment for 10 years
humble yacht
Halo is less like Avengers and more like Star Wars
iron glacier
right
humble yacht
You can have all these different stories without some huge crossover
lean karma
im glad
iron glacier
It seems like that's what they're doing though honestly, don't you think
gilded mason
Not really, no
humble yacht
Nope
lean karma
i like the concept that the world isn't just whats happening to who your playing as it would be cool if there were things that dirastically impacted the story that dident involve the main view point of whatever is relevant to give the feeling of how big and nuancicle the universe is
iron glacier
why else would they be bringing A9 back together and put them on the Infinity?Or putting Anders on the Halo that Cortana intercepted? It seems like they're actually trying to put these things together. It's almost a given that The Banished are gonna be the main faction we'll be fighting in Infinite
gilded mason
Yeah
humble yacht
How the banished just gonna abandon their business on the ark off screen?
Nobody would like that
iron glacier
What else is there though
343 isn't gonna take a gamble on another new enemy faction
lean karma
also hold up that does mean the flood will be back.. awakening the nightmare???
gilded mason
What?
iron glacier
Right but we're not gonna be shooting AIs
humble yacht
Prometheans are the main enforcers of the created
lean karma
HAHA the flood comes back and theres the banished.. then Spirit of fire and red team team up with A9 and halo 5 cast to defeat everything and we learn Johnson had a daughter who is that scientist in the waypoint banner from having shmex with the ONI woman at the end of harvest.. the perfect fan orgee lmao not gonna happen
iron glacier
You really think that they're gonna shove the created down our throats again after the negative reception
lean karma
yep
humble yacht
They specifically said they are continuing the plot from halo 5
lean karma
i actualy agree with chimera here
deep pewter
The Created haven’t even been shown off yet, hard to have a negative reception to something we’ve barely seen
lean karma
not that i never disagreed
humble yacht
The created aren’t suddenly going to retire the prometheans
lean karma
all i remember the created from was the greg bear novels when we learn of sparks life and interrogation with didact... er right its kind of fuzzy knowledge
iron glacier
this is a good point
humble yacht
Wouldn’t really make sense to the narrative, no matter how much you don’t like them
lean karma
again good point
iron glacier
yeah you're right
with this being said then the prometheans are probably gonna have a huge overhaul or something
humble yacht
¯_(ツ)_/¯
iron glacier
because we know, and 343 knows that they were not very fun to fight
lean karma
yeah.. wasn't there the new promethean intity spotted in the ring expiereince at outpost discorver er whatever?
i couldent remember if it was forerunner or promethean
humble yacht
Prometheans aren’t as bad as people like to say
iron glacier
hard disagree there
humble yacht
They could use some tweaking by theyre fine as an enemy type
bright briar
Prometheans are Forerunner.
humble yacht
Imo they were more interesting in 4
lean karma
Didact was a knight
humble yacht
More dynamic
iron glacier
I liked the big boi knights with the weakspots you had to shoot
lean karma
right the promethians had "politics" halo 5 made them to be like your standard baddies just to fight somthing
feral perch
Prometheans were a class of Forerunner. They were the most highly esteemed Warrior-Servants.
lean karma
i cant reccal any protagonist to the promethians or their purpose in halo 5 except filler bad guys
iron glacier
right, but they were also digitized humans from halo 4 right, or am I mistaken on that
lean karma
well right i know via that one machine i forget the name now forerunners could become knights
feral perch
Prometheans are both digitized Forerunners and humans.
feral perch
The Composer.
humble yacht
The Marty
iron glacier
lmao
lean karma
lol
feral perch
har har har
lean karma
i don't get it
hasty locust
The Marty Robbins? 👀
iron glacier
The O'Donnell
lean karma
oh ha
hasty locust
With a big iron on his hip
lean karma
ever think spartans wonder where the machine ends and the human part of them begins?
iron glacier
that's like, masterchief's whole arc in halo 4
lean karma
right i know but other than him ..
most spartans up until that point dident have a self reflecting AI
iron glacier
well yeah they all probably struggle with their humanity to some degree
Naomi 010 in the Kilo Five trilogy has a whole thing about finding her real father who happens to be an insurrectionist leader
humble yacht
Chief expresses that struggle at the end of halo 4
lean karma
My favorite character in the halo universe thus far is probably Jorge.. i love his death probably the most
feral perch
Fred is probably the closest to embracing his own humanity, of all the IIs.
hasty locust
cough Kurt cough cough
lean karma
kurt is also a good
hasty locust
Yeah but he can arguably be the most ‘human’
lean karma
im assuming from gold team
feral perch
Yeah. But he's dead.
lean karma
ik XD
iron glacier
why does the fact that they're dead matter
lean karma
don't rup it in
hasty locust
His death was badass, I honestly miss Will
lean karma
rub*
feral perch
They no longer have character development or struggle.
They are not important to the story going forward.
lean karma
yeah but icase u dident realise i don't like characters because of how badass their death was
iron glacier
right but we're obviously talking about when they were alive
making it relevant to the current discussion
feral perch
No, not obviously.
hasty locust
If we got another comicization of a novel I want ghosts of onyx
feral perch
John, Naomi and Fred are all still alive.
lean karma
right and other than obvious Chief cortana and Johnson my favorite main stream character is 100% Arbitor
feral perch
They all still have potential character development.
hasty locust
Red team seems fairly human
iron glacier
right but we can still talk about the character development of dead characters
lunar condor
most spartans are probably good at seeming human, if they really are is a different thing though.
lean karma
i was hoping wed get development with blue team or Osiris in halo 5.. turns out just meaningless comradery in which we learn nothing actually about the people
feral perch
Red Team does seem very sociable for S-IIs, and I'd love more lore on them.
lean karma
just their personality
hasty locust
I wanna hear more about mjolnir S-3 teams like noble
lean karma
Red team is more play by the rules than blue team i feel at this point since i think other than maybe grey team they were the most in cryo sleep team meaning there training and combat experience is definitely fresher in their mind
feral perch
Blue Team already has tons of external development, as does Buck in Osiris. Vale was in a novel, and Tanaka was in a few comics, so they both have a lot less development. Locke was easily the driest character on Osiris.
lean karma
other than Jun theres pretty much no one i can think of thats a SIII left.. is there?
hasty locust
Idk, I didn’t like Osiris one bit
They seemed kinda forced upon you, and they weren’t very unique
iron glacier
Headhunter spin off game pleaaaaase
feral perch
Kevin, Hazel, Owen, and hundreds of Gammas @lean karma
lean karma
right Buck is fine he has backstore and i knew about vale and Tanaka but.. still with all the blue team novels i feel like im missing stuff
hasty locust
Like some of the interaction voice lines between blue are just great
lean karma
oh see i have catching up to do unfortunately i have to have a life :((
I still need to read lone wolf
feral perch
I didn't feel like there was anything missing about Blue Team but oh well
lean karma
who do you guys think the white spartan from the toys is for the halo infinite story?
feral perch
A multiplayer Spartan
lean karma
lol watch it be a noble six situation where thats your main character
iron glacier
probably just multiplayer spartans
lean karma
Yeah lol
watch it be the pilot after he somehow goes through training under MC's shadow
Its Noble 6 confirmed
feral perch
uh, no
lean karma
jokes jokes XD
lunar condor
I wonder if master chief is gonna die or just retire eventually hmm
feral perch
Something like that.
iron glacier
The SII's will probably live longer than most humans
hasty locust
Yeah but Johnson was like 80
lunar condor
Well hard to say what the actual physiological age of people is in Halo, though hes probably gonna live longer and be healthier for a lot longer than most humans
versed helm
How old was Paragosky?
hasty locust
70 looks like 170
terse lava
Think she was 98 last we heard
versed helm
How long can a Forerunner live for without regular access to their armor?
lunar condor
I mean if they want to keep the chief alive for longer they can always call upon some forerunner magic or another, but they will probably retire him someday
versed helm
If they get rid of John,what about the rest of Blue Team
lean karma
how old is Halsey at this point? cause shes been alive before SII's and Johnson in the og spartan project and she gets around fine ...
They would still operate and fred would be leader
iron glacier
she was born in 2492
lean karma
shes getting old
feral perch
She's in her seventies by the time of Infinite
terse lava
Same year the jiralhanae were. Brought into the covenent funny enough
iron glacier
who let the elite in the chat
lean karma
I wonder if that's why theres the new scientist in the waypoint banner and she like halseys understudy for when she dies
terse lava
I have been here....
lean karma
lol
iron glacier
I know I'm just joking friend. it's just funny that you're spitting covenant facts with your name and profile picture
lunar condor
The entire halo cast getting old tbh
iron glacier
Steve Downes is immortal
gilded mason
Most of the Elite characters are still young and spry
lean karma
I wonder if there are spartans in the halo universe for every suit we see in halo 5 XD
versed helm
What's the current year in the time line?
iron glacier
Spartan IV's definitely
terse lava
I always drop covenant and sangheili facts
lunar condor
Id imagine theres probably a loooooooooot of spartan IVs by now
iron glacier
lmao keep up the good work
gilded mason
What's the current year in the time line?```
By Infinite, >= 25612559 is the current year as far as released material goes
lean karma
its almost annoying.. next generation spartans will literally be mechs and you wont need augmentation and everyone will be super soldiers... and thus halo becomes a mecha anime (were low key already seeing that in the toys)
versed helm
Halsey is 69
iron glacier
heh
lean karma
ha is that true??
lean karma
yeah ik
versed helm
Wouldn't the Mantis or Cyclops count as a mech
lean karma
that one japaneese short film "human"
lunar condor
We need some gigantic mechs that spartans can drive
lean karma
yeah but the mcx toys now are past cyclops and literally like "Ji Joe super suits"
lunar condor
so we can go full power rangers on the next scarab we have to fight
versed helm
Whatever became of Agolis?
versed helm
So I've been wondering,how do the Line Installations,how do they shoot down ships that are in slipspace?
iron glacier
the line installations?
I have no idea what a line installation is, but I'd imagine to shoot down a ship in slip space you'd have some sort of system to track things in slip space, and then send a projectile into the slipspace stream that your target is in
versed helm
versed helm
But the Halo 4 map Wreckage is what interests me,how it said it has the remains of both human and covenant ships littered around it,as well as ships belong to undiscovered races
Still sucks that Hood is wasting himself by drinking on Rossbach's World
gilded mason
Living the dream
stoic hamlet
You know
I wonder what the regular UNSC grunts are thinking about this whole created business
versed helm
Or what the inhabitants of Venezia think of it as well
gilded mason
Venezia would hate it
stoic hamlet
Like, the main AI that wants to enslave everyone has a warped sense of love towards Master Chief and he basically abandoned his post to go find her.
Doesn’t look too good
versed helm
Tbh,if i lived in the Halo universe,i'd live on Venezia
lunar condor
im sure the PR team put a great spin on it
versed helm
I wonder how ONI might deal with this whole thing
versed helm
I'm still not sure what to think of Osman though
fair hazel
hang on
wasnt there something soman related in data drops?
i feel confused
maybe i remembered something wrong
terse lava
shrug
versed helm
Shadows of Reach isn't required to read to understand Infinite's story, right?
gilded mason
That's what Denning said, yeah
feral perch
^^^^^^
terse lava
.....maybe....on one condition
feral perch
shut up
gilded mason
no u
gilded mason
never
feral perch
heresy
snow halo
it's tough trying to read as many books as you can before infinite comes out when there all 400+ pages each
feral perch
Bad Blood is like 200-some pages
snow halo
I mean devote some time each day to just reading halo lore
gilded mason
They go by really quick
snow halo
I'm not even halfway through the fall of reach
feral perch
and arguably more important than any of the other novels out right now
snow halo
I dont even know what order I should be reading the books in
feral perch
release order is best
snow halo
on just reading the fall of reach first because they told me I should
it's kinda hard looking for every halo book and finding the release date
feral perch
Halopedia has a convenient list.
snow halo
it's a lot more simple with just 5 (maybe 7) games
feral perch
There's like 12 Halo games
terse lava
@gilded masonyes
gilded mason
based
snow halo
it gets confusing with the kilo-5 trilogy and forerunner saga and such
terse lava
Let's be honest, the idea of Nizat meeting the "demons" now could be interesting, depending on how up to date he would be
terse lava
I do wonder which path he would go down, that of Thel...or Xytan
gilded mason
I don't think Xytan ever got the whole truth, did he?
terse lava
Far as I am aware no
gilded mason
Only that the Hierachs betrayed the Elites for the Brutes?
So he was missing a lot of context.
terse lava
Closest thing we get is him saying "I like you, believed in our prophets and their covenant..how could we believe a covenant of lies"
gilded mason
Perhaps if he ever found out the reason for Truth starting the war, he might re-evaluate circumstances.
terse lava
Maybe, though I do find it odd how he was of the mindset the hierarchs and san shyuum race had lied to his people...yet he saw humanity as a menace still.
gilded mason
Yeah.
Depending on how long he's been alive, the war with humans might've only lasted a comparatively short amount of time for him.
terse lava
We dont even know if he participated in the war. He could have been exiled long before depending on his age
gilded mason
That'd make it even odder.
terse lava
Indeed
I wonder....
Maybe...maybe xytan was the overall commander of the fleet Nizat saw on his return to high charity
feral perch
mebbe he's still alive
gilded mason
lol
terse lava
Not going to lie, was expecting a small " an interesting idea/that's a lousy idea" response
terse lava
Or you know...live
gilded mason
Yeah. I'd prefer they both live
terse lava
Actually nuts to it. My head canon now is that high charity fleet was xytan
lilac cypress
Does anyone here likes the forerunners as much as me?
Their technology it’s extremely powerful
It can outmatch any faction on Star Wars
jolly furnace
Any faction unless the Legends Celestials or Bedlam Spirits are involved. And that's assuming the former are as powerful as Darth Plagueis speculated they were.
lilac cypress
Yeah your right about that but I was checking out and even the Celestials of Star Wars could have difficulty fighting the Forerunners
jolly furnace
Celestials if what Plagueis says is true and if going by the Ones are incorporeal beings capable of immense reality warping feats and shapeshifting. There basically Gods
Forerunners can't hurt them
lilac cypress
We’ll you got me there I don’t know much about the Celestials
jolly furnace
Well they're very vague
Basically the can create immense megastructures and are capable of Force feats beyond anything in canon or Legends
Forerunners have no answer to the Force sadly for them
lilac cypress
I was doing my research of the forerunners and I’m kind of disappointed with the lack of information about this faction
jolly furnace
Forerunners? There's a ton of info on them
lilac cypress
No there is not there’s only incomplete information of them at Halopedia
They don’t enter in details they just go superficially missing a lot of great points
humble yacht
There’s a whole trilogy of novels detailing their history
Also, @lilac cypress , please check the #471730170768654352 about username fonts
lilac cypress
Yeah that part I know that.But when it comes to search that info you can only get that from reading chunks of the book when the rest of the information on Halopedia just leave us to wonder how really powerful they are
jolly furnace
Forerunners are Tier 4 on Kardeschev scale in terms of energy generation/consumption
lilac cypress
@humble yacht I just finish reading it what about it?
jolly furnace
Tier 2 elsewhere
lilac cypress
Yeah I actually found more complete information about the forerunners in this blog than halopedia itself
humble yacht
@lilac cypress it means you’ll need to change your font so it’s normal
jolly furnace
But basically outside of Celestials (maybe) and definitely the Bedlam Spirits, Forerunners should beat all other SW factions to my knowledge
lilac cypress
Ohh ok ok I get it the letters.Well my girlfriend did that font for me before she left the country and i would really like to keep it @humble yacht is it possible?)
lilac cypress
Understandable I’ll step down have a great day @jolly furnace nice conversation)
jolly furnace
Take care
lean karma
pftt im sorry he clearly did no research
My favorite Novels in the halo series is Contact Harvest and Mortality Doctrine I think its called?? by Karen Travis? but i cant remember the names.. i just know there pretty dope books
humble yacht
Mortal Dictata?
dusty pilot
is there coloring books? i want to get rid of my old crayons
humble yacht
yes, there is an official Halo coloring book.
hasty locust
Serious?
humble yacht
Yes
hasty locust
Awesome
obsidian thistle
Its also got "minor" (so folks dont go asking if its vital or of any importance) lore in it.
fair hazel
Why even say “adult”?
humble yacht
it does give off the wrong impression
gilded mason
It's literally its title, Erik
humble yacht
I think "adult" has to do with the difficulty and amount of detail in the illustrations, rather than the content
humble yacht
A child would probably have a tough time with the halo coloring book
fair hazel
HCS Pro colouring book
humble yacht
tho most amazon reviews indicate that parents did indeed get them for their children
fair hazel
I also realized something
About the new book
The fall of reach came out before halo CE. And the shadows of reach comes out before and@both will likely act in a similar way narratively for their respective games
versed helm
@humble yacht are you being honest to god about that coloring book? Cause if so I gotta go to amazon
humble yacht
you didn't need FoR to understand CE, so that's fine
bruh just search Halo Coloring Book on google if you don't believe me
humble yacht
that'll make coloring in the lines difficult
versed helm
I can’t color it at all, I’m paralyzed and dumbstruck
obsidian thistle
The Flood kinda could also be another factor. Seeing as they are present
humble yacht
sure. I'd expect a Halo coloring book to have a little violence depicted
but when I read "adult coloring book", I don't immediately think violent content
obsidian thistle
Oh I agree.
humble yacht
I think "advanced coloring book" would be a better label, as ericky suggested
obsidian thistle
I heard rumors the Destiny version has minor lore also xD
terse lava
Pity I was never a massive coloring book fan
limpid meadow
I bought it just because it's Halo
terse lava
Faith enough
Btw wondering, anyone think Xytan participated in the war against humanity?
limpid meadow
Probably, but it depends on when he was "banished" to the fringes of Covenant space
He certainly would have if given the opportunity, and did once the Great Schism broke out
terse lava
Well last night considered the idea that the fleet Nizat sees preparing to depart high charity was under Xytan's command seeing as he was an imperial admiral only 27 years later
And we don't know who led the war effort between Nizat and Ripa
terse lava
He led the fleet attacking harvest 5 years in
hasty locust
“Adult colouring book” 😳
terse lava
Never said it wasnt small, just that he'd led it
lean karma
lol
brisk cave
Coloring book? Well this can't get any better
Oh darn it can
Don't know how this is for adult tho, shouldnt it be for teens? There a lot of skilled teenagers that can color well
versed helm
The coronavirus is now in my country, I found it amazing and I was almost afraid ... The government announced that the schools were closed for 4 weeks, I found it cool
terse lava
.....alright then
simple locust
How long were the necks of the Stoics compared to the other elites? How long would the neck of Mken be compared to the Stoics that tried to kill him?
carmine sleet
Pretty sure their necks were about the same as all other Elites
terse lava
Think he means san shyuum
simple locust
Yes the San Shyuum Stoics. Are their necks longer than the neck of Mken or other prophets like Truth?
terse lava
Bit shorter I think
Ancient san shyuum though during the forerunner period had long necks too
We do see the reformists in a terminal
Their necks while long, are better proportioned to their body
simple locust
Would they be the same length as the reformists in the terminal?
terse lava
From what we know I would say not a horrible example but not the best
At the time we see them, they have just met the sangheili, so there already was some inbreeding surely in the previous 1000 years or so
Younger san shyuum do have shorter necks though
simple locust
Also do males and female look different or are they mostly the same? I know they wear dresses, at least the ones that ride the Ilpdor.
terse lava
Likely similar, just with your typical gender differences
Longer lashes, breasts, more curve to their body
simple locust
Do they have smaller heads than males do?
terse lava
No clue, likely just varies on individuals
simple locust
Also do the ancient San Shyuum look different from the Stoics?
terse lava
The forerunner era ones?
simple locust
Yes.
terse lava
Would just picture that with muscles
That's a reformist right when they met the sangheili
Really shows how far they fell
Pity
simple locust
So like the ones in the terminal but with muscles, armor, and rifles? Did they have a particular color scheme for their armor or clothing like the covenant does?
restive hill
I have a question with regards to the great schism, was there more of an underlying issue with the elites than just them failing to protect the prophets?
terse lava
Likely something purple relates
Yes, truth saw that some sangheili after 27 years of war, were wondering why the humans had not been offered a place in the covenant. He also saw that the primitive jiralhanae were more obedient and not as questioning as their sangheili commanders
simple locust
Also did the ancient San Shyuum wear armor like ancient humans or was it different?
terse lava
I would assume similar if not better. They were the more advanced out of the two
simple locust
Would they have the 90 degree angle looking helmet on them?
terse lava
No their tech appearance wise was more flowing. Something like prelate armor I could see
simple locust
Was a prelate stronger than an ancient San Shyuum?
simple locust
Also how big were the vines that the Stoics use to kill the elite ranger, the one that has his eyes torn out before having the rest of his body torn apart and thrown at the rest of the group?
terse lava
Would think various sizes.....they are vines after all
simple locust
What kind of vines would they be? I had a hard time understanding what they would look like from the audio reading of Broken Circle.
terse lava
I dont know, good enough to keep a captured sangheili in place
simple locust
Also are we ever told what color an Ilpdor is besides that it's glossy and has a blue tongue?
terse lava
No
simple locust
Also during the War of Wills did the Stoics and Reformists ever engage in ground combat or was it just air combat?
terse lava
Ground combat would be involved, seeing as a reform fortress was knocked into an ocean and san shyuum took shelter in the forerunner vessel
simple locust
What wars involved the elites before they met the prophets?
terse lava
We know of clan battles that took place in a petrified forest that Ussa Xellus's uncle and a friend fought in. There was an ancient alliance that overthrew a tyrant arbiter, the original swords of sangheilios. And a later version of them helped bring more sangheili to the covenant
main frost
simple locust
Is rabies the most similar real life disease that is the most similar to the flood?
terse lava
No
terse lava
The ant fungal parasite cordyceos would be
brisk cave
Wut
simple locust
Does it cause the host to attack others?
terse lava
Causes the host ant to climb to tops of grass blades to get eaten and continue the parasite's life cycle
brisk cave
I'm very confused :/
terse lava
Actually I take that back, wrong parasite
Cordyceps will grow a stalk out of the ant's head and eventually through nutrient from the ant's body, send out more spores
So like a flood carrier form pretty much
Other ants who find an infected ant will carry it far far away from the nest before the stalk pops out
simple locust
Does it affect people?
terse lava
No
simple locust
Is there anything similar that does?
gilded mason
Toxoplasma Gondii can
terse lava
That's the one with snails?
gilded mason
It's the parasite that enters rats and makes them try to get eaten by cats
It can also infect humans and alter some things for them as well
terse lava
Oh that one
Oh yea, the one I was thinking of involves the larvae entering s snail's eyes and making them pulse like tasty worms for birds to eat
gilded mason
Yeah, I almost remember the name
terse lava
Likwise
torpid flare
helo
torpid flare
can i infect
gilded mason
Nope
torpid flare
yummmy sandwichew
simple locust
So how would the folasteeds and other plants from the Prophet's home world hold up against the flood?
simple locust
Would the Folasteeds and vines be better at fighting than creatures with central nervous systems?
terse lava
Well they could tear apart flood bodies, combat forms anyway but they would be overwhelmed eventually
simple locust
If they had equal numbers who would win?
terse lava
The flood
simple locust
How does the flood turn plants into biomass? Can it be done with spores?
terse lava
"One single flood spore can destroy a species
torpid flare
YoU GlAsSeD HaLf A cOnTiNeNt
simple locust
Are there other planets with killer plants?
terse lava
None we know of
simple locust
Are there any creatures neither animal and/or plant?
bright briar
You've got some microorganisms, like bacteria.
terse lava
Yea
simple locust
Have the posed a threat to any factions?
Also can they be infected or turned into biomass?
terse lava
.....what?
terse lava
The flood can infect any biomass
simple locust
What happens when to a dead body of a flood creature when it decays after it dies?
terse lava
If the flood are still around, recycled as biomass. If somehow on it's own, flood cells would likely taint anything else newrby
simple locust
So what happened to all of the flood after the halo rings fired? I know they starved but what happens to the bodies and everything else?
versed helm
Starved
From my understanding once a flood infects a person they can no longer feed off of them if that makes any sense
I honestly have no idea what if talking about
feral perch
this is a complex topic
terse lava
In the case of the combat forms other flood forms killed by the halo, just rot away...apparently. nothing gets left behind either as neither the covenant nor humanity came across any fossilized flood
simple locust
What types of flood are stored by the forerunners?
terse lava
Everything
feral perch
The Sentinels released solvent across the galaxy following the firing of the array. This solvent dissolved dead Flood biomass. Thus, no fossils.
versed helm
Like remind me,aren't most,if not all of the names for the Covenant races Sangheili in origin?
It still makes me wonder,what did the Covenant races call themselves in their own native languages?
echo crypt
i don't think its ever established, so as far as we know, the grunts might just call themselves the oingo boingo people
terse lava
@feral perch that only happened on worlds where the lifeworkers had time to do it, not every world
@versed helmcorrect, every covenant name is what they are called in the sangheili tongue. Although oddly san shyuum has been used by the forerunners as well
versed helm
Where in the galaxy was Path Nachryma located?
terse lava
No clue
echo crypt
wiki says "Milky Way galaxy, located in close proximity to the Orion complex."
versed helm
Or Jad Sappar
terse lava
Dont think the forerunner books ever tell us
versed helm
I seriously want to explore and know more about the former Forerunner Ecumene other than what we already have on it
Wait,is Christmas still celebrated in the Halo universe?
terse lava
Dont see why it wouldn't be
versed helm
So is Abaddon truly gone or is he still lurking within the depths of the Domain and just biding his time
terse lava
No clue
versed helm
Tbh,i would be surprised if that was the case,if Abaddon was still lurking somewhere within the Domain and is just biding his time,probably coming out at the point when the galaxy is at its most weakest
Just my own thought,what if he's controlling Cortana and ordering her to wreak havoc upon the galaxy?
terse lava
He could be I guess, he just up and vanishes when Growth gives her life
I think if he was puppeteering her, it would defeat the entire plot of promises to keep. That the forerunners gave their lives to do one good thing
terse lava
I guess only in the sense everyone thinks gravemind is doing that
versed helm
Yep
carmine sleet
A large Flood form used to combat well defended positions and command local Flood forms if I recall
Juggernauts are highly specialized combat forms directed by a seething mass of infection forms linked to multiple hosts. The creature harnesses the hosts' minds to analyze enemy activity and adjust the local Flood strategy accordingly. They have some of the traits associated with full-fledged key minds, including the abilities to synchronize nearby parasites and relay information between distant Flood hordes.
From Halopedia
I'd say they're an advanced combat form
A term I just made up a few seconds ago
Hey, I almost said a "Combat Evolved form" so be glad I didn't
versed helm
i can't even keep track of what we are even talking about because you people type so fast 😂
carmine sleet
Either way, the Juggernaut is clearly a more advanced Combat Form, so while it doesn't need a new classification, I'd say giving it a classification like what I said would make sense. It's not a Keymind so it wouldn't make sense to call it one, even if it shares a few traits
terse lava
Seeing as the abomination is an eveolvedndorm of a juggernaut and classified as a key mind, would put the juggernaut in the same category. Look at it like a combative little proto gravemind
versed helm
doesnt it enhance local combat forms strats? doesnt that class it as a node atleast?
yea does it?
i mean im stepping into this really late so i dont know whats been said yet
well we were all trying to figure out which classess were which
and sometimes we made our own classes
isnt a combat key?
yea we all thought is was more combat so thats what we decided on
im just glad all the lore forms are not in the games . because who would love to take out any of the flying forms on library...
yea
charred wedge
They are the 'hunters' of the flood line, up in a sense, perhaps?
terse lava
How so?
brisk cave
I'm arbiter the dancing clown, want your energy sword back? You have a nice energy sword
inner basin
So what are you guys’ thoughts on the Shadows of Reach?
Don’t know if this has been discussed yet so...
inner basin
It looks alike to the armour they wore in The Package animated series
carmine sleet
Aye, I think someone has mentioned that
That said, since Linda didn't appear in The Package, she's obviously got a unique looking helmet
inner basin
I kinda prefer it over her GEN2 helmet
stoic hamlet
I’m excited
Kind of annoyed, pettily though
They’re so close to having almost matching armour and then Kelly has to ruin it D:
Also they’re not the same colour 😦
inner basin
I kinda like that they’re not the same colour tbh.
carmine sleet
I think it makes sense for them to have gear that's personalised to what they want, helps them be more effective in the field
Also, don't mind the colours either, helps make it easier to identify them
feral perch
Just give them numbers on their chests
Spartans should return to being unisex, nearly identical titans
carmine sleet
I'd rather have more than a number to differentiate them from one another. It helps add character to them without any words being needed from them
stoic hamlet
Red Team is a good example
Also the reprint of the Fall of Reach where Kelly has a rabbit on her chest and her number on her shoulder
fair hazel
I like different colours
stoic hamlet
Also that one art work where the S-III has a Valkyrie on her visor.
There are ways of showing individuality without having drastically different armour
Have different attachments on their armours, pouches, knives, etc
Small pieces of unique things. Kill tallies, small colour changes.
fair hazel
I just noticed something interesting
The image of the full screen art
It’s dated 4th of November 2019 on my phone
terse lava
Likely when they made it
Something I realized later night, why was Zuka allowed to continue his mission to take out the chief after the first failure rather then redirected towards fighting the flood
simple locust
I prefer spartan squads to have matching primary colors, although having slightly different primary colors is fine if say they are a dark green, bright green, and so one.
Also were the Precursors who known to commit acts of violence before the Flood?
terse lava
Closest thing we know was it was claimed they wiped out failed creations in the past before the forerunners and attempted to pull the same thing to the forerunners themselves
jolly furnace
Yeah but we've no proof of it
Although i do wonder where all the older advanced races are
Where are their relics
Or did the Forerunners excavate those sites
terse lava
Asked that same question a week ago. Consensus was that there were relics of older races, but they were not important to the narrative. Though I question that as even the librarian considered there were races before the precursors, all the way back to the big bang
simple locust
Also what did the Elites, Grunts, Jackals, Brutes, and Drones do during the time of he Forerunners besides looking at the Halos before they fired in Halo Legends?
terse lava
We dont know, we only know sangheili were "less dramatic" back then
Although that could imply some type of proper presence if 343 knew of them
carmine sleet
Those scenes where they looked at the Halos right before the rings fired is a little questionable, as we know the rings aren't located anywhere near any of their homeworlds
simple locust
Also are there any canon land dwelling sentinels?
hollow wing
Okay what does glassing a planet mean??
It’s been awhile and I’m dipping back into the franchise again
feral perch
It refers to the use of a Covenant warship's ventral cleansing beam on a planet's surface.
Basically, a beam of superheated plasma is used to turn the land into a silica-like material resembling glass
and the oceans are boiled away
the atmosphere is destroyed
total devastation
hollow wing
Ahhh
carmine sleet
It's not a nice way to go
hollow wing
I wonder if they could do that to a halo ring
carmine sleet
They have done
terse lava
They did
hollow wing
When
terse lava
Delta halo was glassed by the sangheili fleet in otbit
feral perch
After Halo 2
hollow wing
Huh
feral perch
The ring in Halo 2 got glassed
carmine sleet
We see one ship attempt to glass Chief as well during halo 2 after he killed Regret
terse lava
Prevent flood infection from going further
Never said how fully they glassed it though
hollow wing
What rings haven’t been destroyed
terse lava
Only original alpha halo
Ark has only made replacements for it, one of which itself was torn apart
hollow wing
What about the ring in the infinite trailer
feral perch
I think you misunderstood him, Ado
Only Alpha Halo and Installation 08, its first replacement, have been destroyed.
terse lava
I figured he was talking of the original new set, not the older ones
hollow wing
My head hurts
terse lava
And you gave the same answer
feral perch
He doesn't know there are two sets of Halo rings
hollow wing
Dang there’s so much I’ve missed
feral perch
I gave it in a different context.
hollow wing
Why did they replicate the rings
terse lava
I assumed that was the case, thus why I didnt mention them
feral perch
To cleanse the entire galaxy @hollow wing
hollow wing
Ok ok I think I’m starting to understand now
carmine sleet
The rings we see in the current day of Halo are the second, better set of rings. During the Forerunner-Flood War, they made another set which was not as efficient but were also destroyed apart from Zeta Halo, which is now known as Installation 07
hollow wing
Ok
feral perch
Many fans strongly believe that the Halo ring seen in the Infinite trailers is Installation 07, or Zeta Halo
hollow wing
Isn’t there 10 original rings starting with 00 and ending with 09
feral perch
There were twelve originally I think... Ado?
carmine sleet
Installation 00 is not a Halo
feral perch
Installation 00 is the Ark, which makes the Halos
carmine sleet
And yes, there was 12 rings originally
hollow wing
Oh
terse lava
12 originals, at least 1 prototype, and the 7 new ones plus 2 replacements
carmine sleet
More specifically the Lesser Ark, which created the rings of the current array
carmine sleet
The Greater Ark created the original set of Halos but was destroyed
simple locust
How did the original group of Halo rings differ from the later ones besides being bigger than them?
hollow wing
So which ring is the one with blood gulch
gilded mason
They only fired in a single direction
feral perch
It could be any ring, Probably 04 or 05.
hollow wing
Okay another question I had was what’s the difference between spartan II and spartan III
carmine sleet
Blood Gulch's location doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things
And there's plenty of differences between S-IIs and S-IIIs
hollow wing
Really
carmine sleet
First, there's more S-IIIs than S-IIs
feral perch
There like 300+ IIIs still alive, and around 10 S-IIs.
carmine sleet
Second, S-IIIs were made up of orphans from the Human-Covenant War, while S-IIs were kids that were kidnapped by ONI many years before the Covenant first discovered humanity
hollow wing
I’m guessing spartan II are better
carmine sleet
Third, most S-IIIs were expected to die in operations, basically being described as "disposable super soldiers" by the man who came up with the idea of the S-IIIs, James Ackerson
hollow wing
Why where they expected to die
gilded mason
Becasue they place them on extreme-risk high-reward suicide missions
hollow wing
Oh
carmine sleet
Another thing as well, most S-IIIs were deployed in SPI armour opposed to Mjolnir, which the S-IIs wore, during the Human-Covenant War
Noble Team and a few others were given Mjolnir though
feral perch
SPI has built-in active camouflage but no energy shields. The opposite is true for Mjolnir.
hollow wing
Is it possible for Spartan II to wear SPI armor
carmine sleet
But the camo was not the same as Covenant Active Camo in how it worked
feral perch
Of course.
carmine sleet
Yes, Kurt-051 wore a set when he died
hollow wing
Huh
Ahhh
Cause my guy is a spartan II but I love the armor in reach so I was wondering
carmine sleet
The armour in Reach is Mjolnir, like I said earlier, Noble Team and some others were given Mjolnir
feral perch
All of the Spartans in Reach, except Jorge, are IIIs.
carmine sleet
Plus that too
hollow wing
Oh
Ok that helps a lot
So that means I can put any gen 1 mjolnir armor together
Right
carmine sleet
Important thing to note, in the post war era, S-IIIs were given Mjolnir armour
jolly furnace
@terse lava The Librarian was pondering if the Precursors had their own precursors based on what the Forerunners knew of them but give the info we got later on, odds are the Precursors were the only ones around at the beginning before they made other species. And honestly I see no point in introducing older species when the cureent Precursor race is already unimaginably old and powerful
feral perch
But some chose to keep using SPI.
hollow wing
So the armor in reach is the same type of armor in 3?
terse lava
@jolly furnacepergaps but truly we dont know
jolly furnace
Honestly I see no point in introducing older species when the cureent Precursor race is already unimaginably old and powerful
carmine sleet
It's an older model of the armour seen in Halo 3, which is Mark VI, while in Reach, it's Mark V
carmine sleet
It is
hollow wing
So I could us a chest armor from 3 but have armor from reach
feral perch
GEN2 seems to be backward compatible with many components from GEN1
terse lava
True, dont need a repeat of mass effect but in a sense the librarian was right as some precursor forms were more primitive or advanced
hollow wing
One last question is there a spartan 343
carmine sleet
Maybe
hollow wing
Like how Mc is spartan 117
feral perch
Maybe as a joke
hollow wing
Cause I would like to use that number
obsidian thistle
I mean nothing stopping ya for fanon.
hollow wing
Alright
gilded mason
There were 150 orignal canditates before going down to 75, right?
So 117 is a remnant of that, or something
feral perch
no problem
carmine sleet
Glad to have helped, Animix
jolly furnace
@terse lava Aye for all we know some of the species and relics from before the forerunners that they found could have other forms of Precursors
simple locust
What sizes do star roads come in and are there any other creatures made up of the same materials?
terse lava
Just had a thought/possible theory. The forerunners saw advanced and primitive precursors, but were not aware of them being the same. Maybe the advanced ones had to wipe out the other one to help them change. The forerunners saw this as them wiping out other creations.
Thus the reason why they claimed the forerunner rebellion was unprovoked
Also the "long study" comment from the Primordial could have been due to primitive and slightly advanced precursors put themselves in the way of the forerunners to ser how they would treat other races
simple locust
Also who were the bipeds that inhabited Sanghelios before the elites?
terse lava
Huh
simple locust
They are mentioned as having an ancient city, having made the carvings at the beginning of Halo Broken Circle on the Blue side of the planet, and came there after the Forerunners had.
terse lava
That's not sangheilios...
simple locust
Oh yeah, the planet of Red and Blue. What was the species that was there?
terse lava
No clue
simple locust
It would be cool to have them look like the earlier elite designs from 1999, the ones without the mandibles as nod to them.
terse lava
They could use any old concept art really
simple locust
As I know the Drinols are canon but what about the cut sniper or any of the covenant units cut from Halo 2?
terse lava
None
simple locust
It seems like with the sniper and one of the units cut from Halo seem to be cyborgs but I would to check again to be sure. They look like many of the units seen in the Pfhor empire in the Marathon games as many of the units are cyborgs. The main character in the Marathon games is also a cyborg that looks similar to the Halo 2 pilots and Halo CE marines.
terse lava
The one with the turret in its torso?
simple locust
Yes. Are you referring to either the Pfhor or a cut Halo character?
terse lava
Cut halo covenant
simple locust
In CE the Sniper and Tankbeast seem to have weapons on them like that. In Halo 2 cut content there is a very thin, special purpose sniper with a weapons on it's hand's side. Then there is the alien trooper which is also very thin that carries it's weapon under its belly.
simple locust
Also is Mken's Stewart killed by the yellow beams of the mines or by other weapons used by the elites that release yellow beams?
terse lava
The beams
simple locust
Are those beams from plasma rifles or other weapons?
terse lava
Plasma rifles shoot bolts, think something like a focus rife
simple locust
Would their plasma rifles also be yellow?
terse lava
Doubt it
simple locust
Would color and shape would the pulse rifles the San Shyuum had look like?
terse lava
No clue
simple locust
How powerful could it be?
terse lava
No clue
simple locust
Also what color schemes and other asthetic difference did the elites have before they joined the Covenant? Broken Circle states that many have silver armor.
terse lava
Yes, fieldmasters at that time wore silver armor with blue high lights rather then the gold eons later
simple locust
Did the color of minors differ at that time? Was bronze ever used?
terse lava
We dont know what minors wore at the time. One could assume blue
Bronze sort of was used by modern stealth sangheili but more a brown color
simple locust
And what of the tanks they use against Mken? Are those Wraiths or something else?
terse lava
Some precursor of them it seems
simple locust
Also in regard to the Infinite Succor, are any of the creatures known of? Of course previously discussed the first group were likely infected Thorn beasts. Another group of uninfected animals appear to be 4 armed, 4 eyed monkey like creatures. Anther were the pig bodied creatures with long ant eater like snouts, and Lemur like creatures. Of the infected there appear to be Orc-like creatures such a purple bodied creature with an Orc head, a spider bodied Orc head with an addition, smaller head coming out of it's mouth, and potentially some others we only see from behind. There is a horse bodied creature with a head similar to that of a Xenomorth with two human heads attacked to it's chest.
long igloo
One armour that was consistent with the elites however was that they had Arbiter armour back then too which is practically the same.
A few variations of the armour existed but for different purposes
jolly furnace
Star Roads come in sizes that would range from vast to unimaginable to us given they could slice up planets with ease and link star systems together.
This image is pretty much what it looks like when Star Roads get wreck planets
Only the roads are white
And no creatures are made up of Neural Physics construction material
terse lava
Hm, there any real reason why, with smaller humans and sangheili, an infection form burrows into the chest. But with the larger jiralhanae, they rip apart and take up the mouth?
stoic hamlet
I’m guessing that’s gameplay. There’s probably nothing stopping a form from being anywhere on the body
terse lava
True just seems odd compared to the others
wind lion
Here’s a question for y’all: what happened to Sára Sorvad after the events of Visegrad and her conversation with Halsey ?
carmine sleet
Unknown
wind lion
Do you reckon she survived Reach ? I’m curious to see if she’d ever make a return. She was meant to play a bigger role in reach after all
carmine sleet
It would be nice if she did survive but I have a feeling she didn't
terse lava
An odd question. Could the jiralhanae have been made good allies to humans had they met each other first before the Covenant found them?
humble yacht
Doubtful
sharp adder
Why I think they actually could of but do you think the jackals and humans would have gotten along well if they had met before cov same with hunters and elites
humble yacht
Brutes and humans are both races that can barely got along with themselves unless they have a common enemy
Humans would either have viewed brutes as dangerous upon first contact, or brutes would have viewed humans as weak and conquerable upon first contact (or both)
carmine sleet
Why I think they actually could of but do you think the jackals and humans would have gotten along well if they had met before cov same with hunters and elites
@sharp adder If humanity had met the Lekgolo before the Covenant did, we'd likely just burn them all since they're worms that form into colonies to attack people. No way humanity would form an alliance with them
terse lava
And yet the covenant did
carmine sleet
The Covenant recognised that they could be useful thanks to sending in a single Arbiter
terse lava
Actually if it was humanity, the lekgolo would have likely been more ad saved to some extent with the 3400 years without the covenant
Yes that's true
humble yacht
The covenant more conquered the lekgolo than allied with them
terse lava
Better then wipingnthrm out like humanity woudn apparently do
humble yacht
The covenant and lekgolo had more of a “Cold War” thing going on.
Humans would only consider wiping out the lekgolo if they wanted the forerunner stuff they were eating. But humans were nowhere near as stoked on forerunner artifacts as the covenant
terse lava
Still interesting that the covenant for 2/3 of its existence the lekgolo was the only client race
stoic arrow
Yeah me too
jolly furnace
I imagine they didnt have much in the way of it given how theocratic they were
Forerunners were m were mstly dedicated to Mantle
fair hazel
forerunners had hats
jolly furnace
and Covies relgiously devoted to forerunners
Humans have hats too
I'd love to see what forerunners did for films and video games
and theather
and music
thorn linden
Assuming they had any of that
jolly furnace
If they did it was probably based around Mantle
I would hope they weren' entrely devoid of pop culture
but then these were people who had their thoughts regulated to the point that they had their armor filter out unnecessary thoughts
So they could focus on "higher thinking"
And had entire planetary traffic slowed down so they could meditate on the Mantle for hours
thorn linden
I'd honestly be very surprised if the Forerunners had anything close to pop culture
thorn linden
Assuming it was a small group that created a pop culture type ideal it wouldn't have caught on in the mainstream Forerunner life so I'm not sure if you'd be able to call it "pop culture"
jolly furnace
Underground culture morelike
thorn linden
I see where you're going with it but I imagine it would be more like what we had in our "underground scenes" here
Oh
Yeah
Exactly lmao
jolly furnace
Another reason the Precursors rejected them perhaps. They had their society so wrapped around the Mantle at the expense of progress and diversity as a culture/society
Tech wise they progressed but society wise...
They were too rigid and static
for millions of years
Someone was typing earlier?
terse lava
Hhm?
jolly furnace
Some one wa typing something after my last comments and then stopped
jolly furnace
sounds boring
I mean the san shyuum speaking to each other in their native language is basically choir hymns
terse lava
Pretty sure we only see regret talking in in the native language and he was giving a sermon anyway
jolly furnace
Yeah but the implication seems to be that that is the way they sound when speakin in their native tongue
Or chanting at least
terse lava
Maybe
simple locust
Maybe they could have C-Pop, like K-Pop for grunts and elites. Maybe it could be a weapon by ONI to weaken them.
versed helm
What about those Covenant prayers we hear in Halo 5
simple locust
Maybe ONI could do something like that but have it encourage the grunts and others to not engage in violence or to be weak. It could be like how China accuses the US of using K-pop to make the men of many countries weak.
terse lava
What about the covenant prayers?
terse lava
Do we know if any covenant vessels were left at the alpha halo ruins?
humble yacht
Don’t think so. Locke didn’t encounter any covenant vessels when visiting the Alpha shard
terse lava
I was talking of the ruins back around threshold
simple locust
Oh yeah was there any fighting between the heretics and covenant on the ground? Did the Heretics exist after the facility was destroyed?
feral perch
The multiplayer map Burial Mounds suggest that Heretics did have some refuge on the surface of the moon Basis.
terse lava
Question would be though if that was before or after the gas mine fell
feral perch
Yeah.
terse lava
Although, I am guessing before. We see they had phantoms and kig-yar. They were likely taken there shortly before the attack
simple locust
As backup or for something else?
Or was it just to separate the grunts and jackals for them not to fight each other?
terse lava
Maybe
simple locust
Did the Covenant require the Elites to have the Grunts and Jackals to stay together on missions?
terse lava
No, but they were as the two lowest caste
Why would a warrior waste their time with moving equipment when the unggoy/kig-yar can do it
simple locust
Also where did the Heretics have Phantoms? Did the Heretic elites and grunts have their armor before or after arriving in the mine?