Really they’re just bipedal
#lore-and-universe
humble yacht
static trench
Why would they look like anything not humanoid?
humble yacht
Beyond that, nothing really human
static trench
and yeah @humble yacht
versed helm
Not really, so should Monitors be humanoid omega?
Why couldn't you take a human essence
And stick it in something that could fly
static trench
i dont design the stuff
versed helm
I'd say an apc-like design would be alot more effective as a war based machine
terse lava
Because they are now robots and can be.molfed however one wants,
versed helm
Omega, you've basically blundered in here and made every lore mistake in the book
I’m not against the humanoid design, but the fact they were humanoids doesn’t explain their design.
You've come in with a very silly explanation
static trench
i didnt do anything
static trench
The Didact converted them into bipedal entities
versed helm
Just chill out for a second
static trench
that look human
versed helm
Eh, Omega was just pointing out his point of view, and bringing up a possible explaination. Nothing wrong with that dude.
static trench
one of the prometheans unmasked at MC, and it showed a digital HUMANOID Skull
static trench
youre ignoring the cutscene then @versed helm
static trench
you are
versed helm
But what you're saying is correlative, not causative
terse lava
The point here, is why craft them with a humanoid look when one doesnt need too
static trench
i could care less for the big words
versed helm
We're asking why take that route
static trench
like i said, im just taking note of what i see
humble yacht
You could ask that about any alien species on two legs
static trench
idk, ask someone at Bungie
hasty locust
Cause fighting humanoids would be more familiar and satisfying in combat
jolly furnace
The Knights are bipedal.
terse lava
I mean from the didact's viewpoint Chimera
versed helm
There's a difference between an evolutionary trend when it comes to biologically evolved alien life and the sort of design you'd want to inhabit with what are essential feralized smart AI
jolly furnace
A twisted reflection of forerunners and humans
humble yacht
Human art of nonhuman things often retains elements of what we are familiar with
static trench
i just feel like they took that route because the Forerunners are Bipedal and look humanoid, and the Didact converted humans into Prometheans, so that is my reasoning. I could be wrong. I dont know why 343 decided to go that route.
versed helm
I guess if we explore what Omega's saying more deeply, a bipedal construct is more suitable for a human essence on some instinctual level?
Perhaps, though he was bringing up a point. Though, counter argument, there's still no reason for them to look humanoid just because they were humanoid before. Lore-wise it would be better to have a better armored body with as few grabbable points as possible fighting the flood. Gameplay wise, it would make their designs more varied and unique, instead of having each knight rank have a few extra spikes
static trench
speaking of lore, they are supposed to be a lot dangerous, yet they are defeated so easily
terse lava
Gameplay
static trench
i mean in various cutscenes too
static trench
i didnt mean actual gameplay
versed helm
You actually do make a point there though.
static trench
of course thats for balance purposes
humble yacht
They should have just been formless entities that opened portals to shoot at you through
versed helm
Eh, not really, i don't think that would work either
terse lava
Heck, the reason forerunner weapons are so underwhelming is because they can't reach their full power with knights
humble yacht
If they look like nothing, can’t Complain about the design
static trench
the Monitor in H3 said what he wouldn't do for a group of Prometheans iirc
versed helm
And now you're being childish...
Well, there was the one Palmer killed. Just bonked it on the head and blasted it point-blank with a .50 HE round.
I guess you could say
hasty locust
You thought jackal snipers were bad? Introducing the floating gun a forerunner construct
versed helm
The Marines with her had hammered it with their MA5s?
Course Lasky managed to totally take one down with an M45D
But they were being careful cuz they wanted Halsey
static trench
Also, im not sure if you all agree or not
terse lava
Whose being childish?
humble yacht
The monitor in H3 never mentioned prometheans
versed helm
Chimera, with the "Can't compain about the design if there is no design"
static trench
But with the cutscene of Locke and his team entering the atmosphere and battling the Covanent, that should have went to MC and his team
terse lava
Think they mean the monitor from the comic
humble yacht
Because prometheans hadn’t existed design wise at the time of halo 3
static trench
I feel like it would have made him look a lot more BA and live up to his lore
versed helm
🙄
humble yacht
Oh the monitor of installation 03
hasty locust
Spark only mention Prometheans in HCEA terminals
terse lava
Yep
versed helm
That monitor isn’t from H3 Ado
hasty locust
Nvm
versed helm
Exactly
You can't just go "oh, hey, this was a cool cutscene but it should have been these other Spartans I like"
terse lava
@versed helmi never said it was
versed helm
There's no reason for Blue to be on Kamchatka without like, heavily rearranging the entire narrative
versed helm
Yeah but it doesn’t make sense for him to say “that monitor from H3” when he’s talking about a completely different monitor Ado.
terse lava
That's why I said I figured he was talking of the one from the comic who made.a deal with the didact
And just getting it mixed up with halo 3
static trench
and yeah i was mistaken about the monitor iirc
versed helm
Those forerunner ball turrets, they're actually exactly what i'm talking about. Make the promethians a bit more designed like that, it feels distinctly forerunner and having something like that move around would be a bit better. Maybe give them very nocticibly different patterns of floaty bits and different colors of glow to them for the ranks, as well as different weapons other than the beam the turrets have, obviously. That would make it seem a bit more like a force specifically designed to kill the flood
static trench
wasn't it from Halo 2?
humble yacht
Halo 2 had 2 monitors
versed helm
Had 2 monitors
humble yacht
Penitent tangent and guilty spark
versed helm
IIRC the only monitor we saw in the OT was spark
static trench
and yes, i can say that. Master Chief deserved a great cutscene like Locke and his team got
static trench
Not that horror show that was Locke vs Chief
humble yacht
Blue team got their own epic intro
versed helm
Yeah they smashed through that window
hasty locust
Yeah when they hopped through dat window
static trench
you got a link?
hasty locust
I liked their intro
humble yacht
YouTube
hasty locust
Then I only got to see them for two more levels and i was like ahhhh man
static trench
i mean the game and such
versed helm
Tbh, i still think it was an insane decision to make halo 5 squad based, and then make that the game where you removed splitscreen
terse lava
A link for what Omega? You can find it on youtibe
humble yacht
Well that’s not really a lore topic
static trench
what game did they show said cutscene, lol
versed helm
If i remember right, it was supposed to be a spinoff at first, which is why it's so different and why blue team were in like, 2 missions
humble yacht
But it’s also not something they’ll repeat
terse lava
Halo 5 Omega
versed helm
Aye
static trench
thanks
terse lava
Welcome
static trench
Halo Legends was pretty cool. I wish they'd give us more animations like that expanding on the lore and various ONI and weapon facilities
versed helm
Ooh yeah
terse lava
Would be nice
versed helm
There was a guy uh, installation 00 on youtube
He does in depth looks at various weapons and other things in the lore
Poorly
humble yacht
Oof
static trench
yep, I watch his videos
humble yacht
Can taste the salt
static trench
He does a better job than the other youtubers that attempt to explore the series
imo anyway
versed helm
Eh, I like him. I'm a bit of a nerd for firearms myself, so I like the explainations of how the guns n stuff work.
gilded mason
Didn't he say that Halsey has the Librarian's geas.
humble yacht
I don’t watch any of them but Toa seems to be a level headed person so they get my vote
static trench
But wasn't that a theory?
humble yacht
A bad theory
versed helm
A game theory
static trench
"Lore and Theory" xD
versed helm
Yeah it's a pretty awful theory though
static trench
i didnt take that video too seriously, but in a way, it make a bit of sense
versed helm
Still, his other stuff is pretty decent.
humble yacht
Not a fan of the geas in general
gilded mason
Yeah
versed helm
His video on human artificial gravity is pretty cringe
Doesn't make any sense
Artificial gravity is something that's theoretically possible. I'll have to check that vid though.
static trench
He didn't go with the classical graviton argument?
can't get any better than that really
versed helm
The way he conceptualized it as like, deck plating
Is not canonically acceptable
Ah yeah no
Warfleet talks about "gravity fields"
humble yacht
The only tron I’ll accept is megatron
static trench
well, didn't deadspace do something like that?
versed helm
And Halo 4 and CH mention gravity generators
So clearly, you have generators which sustain an even gravitic field within the hull
Not this random gradient idea he came up with
static trench
i figured it was gravity generators built into metal plates that could line the floor of a ship
versed helm
Also his MA5B video is pretty whack to me but that's just because I've spent far too much time obsessing over the MA5
Current models of gravity generation involve centrifugal force, spinning to push you towards the ground. Maybe they have those magnetic boots, though. Although that wouldn't explain everything else having gravity as well, unless they're also magnetized, but that would create a lot more problems than it solves.
It's real simple
Gravity generators turn on, things fall to the ground. You can observe it in the first level of Halo 4
cosmic wedge
guys do you know him?
versed helm
Later on, Cortana informs Chief that "all but one of the grav generators just went dark!"
In CH
terse lava
Him?
versed helm
Him?
cosmic wedge
yes
terse lava
Who are you talking of
versed helm
Yeah but that doesn't explain what it is, only disproves the magnetic boots theory, which already debunks itself
frozen spire
woven halo
static trench
my headcanon is that the gravity generator uses gravitons to set gravity at a given direction and G, and range/field
versed helm
But not, of course, how it works
Since we don't even have a complete understanding in the modern day of what gravity is
That's what we're talking about.
🤷♂️ I'll reserve speculation on the particle mechanics of the situation until RL eggheads actually find the graviton.
All I know is
Grav generators ain't deck plating
Yeah they're def not.
And also
cosmic wedge
pls do you know him?
static trench
lol
gaunt hazel
BOOOOOOOOOOAS
versed helm
The thing pushes 7.62x51 down like a 20-inch barrel
Possibly closer to 30-inch
The effective range of that weapon on semi-automatic will be considerable
Especially with futuristic targeting systems
This is one of those "gameplay is an abstraction" situations
twin geyser
how come humanity weren't able to join the covenant?
gilded mason
Because the Hierarchs didn't want the "truth" to come out
twin geyser
what exactly is the "truth"
gilded mason
That being the Great Journey not being a for-sure thing for everyone
twin geyser
oh
terse lava
Yep the hierarchs thought humans were left behind forerunners
versed helm
Truth did
Because in the original canon, ancient humans were the forerunners, which is revealed by spark at the end of 3 with the quote "You ARE forerunner", but they retconned it in reach. There was a forerunner AI in high charity, and the 3 prophets learned that their faith was a lie from it and that humans were the forerunners, so they declared war on humanity to prevent that truth from coming out.
Maybe
The "you are forerunner" quote was CE
By Halo 3
terse lava
Reach didnt retcon it
versed helm
The forerunners were a different species
gilded mason
The "you are forerunner" quote was CE```
No? That quote is at the end of 3.Revealed in the terminals I believe
terse lava
We know looter
gilded mason
But yeah, Humans and Forerunners being separate was in the terminals and Halo 3 tie-in comics
versed helm
Scrumptious
gilded mason
I guess one could simply have it be Spark being Spark
versed helm
@humble yacht
Boi
Yeah, the old lore wasn't really as deep as it is now. For all the criticism the community has for 343, they sure did add a LOT of lore to it.
terse lava
It does in the sense Guilty was crazy and thought humans were forerunners
versed helm
Probably an oversimplification
Perhaps, though i don't think they'd put something so blatantly easy to misunderstand like that in
"You are the child of my makers, inheritors of all they left behind"
In my eyes, that line maintains a certain separation between humanity and the forerunners
While of course, blurring that separation because of the forerunner's very philosophical outlook on reality
gilded mason
Yeah, Librarian considered humans her children later on. Though that "You are Forerunner" part was a bit more egregious.
twin geyser
what happened to the forerunners?
versed helm
They died when they activated the halo rings to kill the flood
gilded mason
A large amount, at least
twin geyser
the flood are that old huh
gilded mason
Others went into exile
versed helm
The Flood are, depending on how you look at it, the oldest living beings in the galaxy.
The flood are what remains of the species that created humanity and the forerunners, called the precursors. The forerunners got mad that the precursors favored ancient humanity over them so they killed most of them, and the last of the precursors went into hiding and turned themselves into a powder for stasis so that they would reform eventually. This powder corrupted, and long story short created the flood
^ To be fair, that is second-hand knowledge.
twin geyser
I never knew halo has this much lore
versed helm
From the Primordial, isn't it?
twin geyser
very interesting
twin geyser
thank you all for filling me in
versed helm
It's likely a half-truth
But, well, it's closest we got to the story
And np mate
Indeed
Halo has like, a TON of lore.
terse lava
Dont forget it was also said the precursors planned on wiping out the forerunners as
A problem
versed helm
Really? Where did it say that? I'm curious.
humble yacht
Nothing about the H3 terminals explicitly identified humans and forerunners as different. I read the transcripts last week
terse lava
2nd forerunner book and halo mythos. Nothing concrete thougu
versed helm
Ah, well, i'll have to go through that. I aint read much of the books, but i been meanin to.
humble yacht
At most there was one terminal where librarian wrote about being on a world where the earth was lush and the natives primitive, but that was “earth” as in dirt, not the planet
It wasnt until the forerunner trilogy that librarian was confirmed to have died on Earth the planet
gilded mason
L: My work is done. The portal is
inactive, and I've begun the burial
measures. Soon there'll be nothing
but sand and rock and normal ferrite
signatures.
Odd that they would use earth as a term, Makes you wonder if it's like, chief's translation software or something saying that (Assuming the terminals arent already in english which would add even more interest to the idea) or if it means something more
gilded mason
She's talking about the Ark portal
@humble yacht
So, the earth she's talking about is on Earth
versed helm
Yeah
humble yacht
If you assume it’s the same portal, I suppose
terse lava
Of course it is, seeing as we only ever see one portal
humble yacht
We know by this time Bungie had decided internally that forerunners were different, but the ambiguity was still quite prominent in the game
Aside from essentially one line in one terminal
gilded mason
We literally also have the Halo 3 comic Cradle of Life showing past humans watching the Ark portal being built
humble yacht
Yeah but that’s outside of the game
I didn’t start looking at outside media for halo until after halo 4
When you just play the OG trilogy, that ambiguity on the identity of the forerunners is there and it was something i really liked
terse lava
Fair, but in regards to the portL and that terminal, it's very hard to see it anywhere else but earth
Even from only the games
humble yacht
Realistically speaking, sure, but humans hold out false hope all the time
And perception is reality, as they say
versed helm
If the MA5 series existed irl, it wouldn't really be used by any military because it's far too bulky. If humanity is still using bullets in the 2500s, the small arms are gonna be not that dissimilar to modern weapons, which are smaller and easily stored. The MA5 is like holding a plank of wood with a hold for a grip, an AR irl is like a tube with a handle and is much smaller.
terse lava
Wheres Looter when you need him
versed helm
Looting, presumably
terse lava
Just saying, he's into the gunn talk
static trench
It would be nice to see the Flood advanced in capabilities, since they possesses the knowledge of previous graveminds when they acquire enough mass and intelligence
they didn't do that enough in previous games and game lore
terse lava
They were decently advanced for the outbreak
versed helm
Well, they did use that ccs cruiser to crash into voi in 3
static trench
I wish we could see Neural Physics and Star Roads in action, even if said action is a flashback
the Domain survived, so we can have hope that some Star Roads survived
terse lava
You can see them tearing apart the greater ark in mythos
static trench
i saw one picture of it, but nothing like animation 😛
versed helm
That'd be pretty cool
torpid flare
why were the flood so effective?
versed helm
Because they used their enemies strengths against them. The more people they turned into flood the smarter they got, which means they could then take your weapons, vehicles, ships, and even your own AIs against you in a FAR more coordinated and effective manner than you ever could.
humble yacht
There is no race in the galaxy that could hold off that advanced of a flood outbreak the way the forerunners did
Seeing the return of advanced flood abilities would simply spell the end for everyone else
Either the halos get fired again or the flood wins
But they win much faster than in the forerunner flood war
static trench
true
At their prime, they could infect life and AIs instantly
not to mention space too
noble fjord
You know I still find it hard to believe that ONI could keep the glassing of Africa and the flood outbreak a secret from EVERYONE on Earth...
Also did Rtas need to get authorization from ONI and Lord Hood to glass Africa? Or did he just go and say "this is going to happen regardless"
gilded mason
Or did he just go and say "this is going to happen regardless"
That one
Who was gonna stop him?
noble fjord
True...
versed helm
I think lord hood was there when he gave the order and was just a little pissed
noble fjord
"A little" he seemed rather frustrated
gilded mason
You know I still find it hard to believe that ONI could keep the glassing of Africa and the flood outbreak a secret from EVERYONE on Earth...
I could see it. After all, they were already glassing the area to uncover the portal.
half apex
about yapyap....
noble fjord
Yapyap is funny
He isn't Cannon (I think)
versed helm
He was only slightly agitated about losing an entire continent
half apex
other than grunts were there some unsc forces who actually took him seriously
oh
Bruh Africa got too much in the history of Halo
In the end it got a glassy ending
and had minimal water
versed helm
UNSC re-terraformed that shizz lickety-split
half apex
oof
gilded mason
Though remember, only a small area was glassed
versed helm
But he didn't really seem that mad
half apex
wait so if they could do that why can't they do the same for reach?
and all the other colonies that got glassed?
half apex
does it take a large amount of time?
versed helm
You gotta like, remove all the glass
noble fjord
Is glassed material even usable for anything...
static trench
ONI is scum
noble fjord
Windows
half apex
the unsc will now have plenty of glass to last for centuries
versed helm
Draco III was still glassy when it was recolonized
static trench
I wouldn't mind seeing a halo game where they become the villains and must be taken down
Also, how did they get away with framing Chief?
versed helm
On draco III you could see still the chemical soup that was buck's home
static trench
xD
deep pewter
The UNSC already are the villains :^)
gilded mason
based nathan
hasty locust
You starting to sound like an insurgent
abstract venture
Do we have any confirt that a small portion of Africa was glassed?
versed helm
I smell insurrectionists
abstract venture
Lord Hood doesn't really have a reason to lie and half jaw made it pretty clear he was going to glass the entire planet but settled for 'half the planet', also we know the Covenant easily have the capabilities
terse lava
Because the memorial area was intact
gilded mason
Do we have any confirt that a small portion of Africa was glassed?
Only a couple months later, we have the memorial service near Voi and no glassed areas in sight
versed helm
"Half a continent" was Hood's words.
abstract venture
Maybe that area had it easy
terse lava
You don't have it easy from glassing
gilded mason
Maybe that area had it easy
That was right next to the Flood outbreak
terse lava
Yes hood used hyperbole
noble fjord
I still can't imagine how a marine would react, just in the middle of an outbreak on their coms "This is the Carrier Shadow of Intent. Clear this sector while we deal with the Flood"
abstract venture
Maybe the flood Didnt go that way so they didn't have a reason to Glas there
Considering its next to the ocean
terse lava
Rememebr the " the fleet that attacked reach was fifty times this size"
abstract venture
That's different though
As half jaw backs up the statement saying he was goit to Glas the planet instead
terse lava
It is another example of him using hyperbole
abstract venture
This is more credible
terse lava
No it isn't
noble fjord
Who did take command of the fleet of particular justice after Thel?
terse lava
Had hood been literal, half of Africa would be molten rock
abstract venture
Why would half jaw be gout along with his hyperbole
terse lava
@noble fjordThel 'Vadamee
gilded mason
Why would half jaw be gout along with his hyperbole```
Because he doesn't care a bit about correcting himAnd why would he mention he was going to Glas the entire planet but settled for half of Africa
versed helm
Do squidheads even know What hyperbole is?
abstract venture
The difference is we know the covenant ships easily had the capabilities though
terse lava
Because the arbiter talked him down
versed helm
I did indeed
gilded mason
And why would he mention he was going to Glas the entire planet but settled for half of Africa
He didn't say that exactly. It was more:
"You glassed half a continent."
"I was gonna glass Earth if Arbiter wasn't here."
abstract venture
Yeah
terse lava
"If it were not for the aribter's council, I would have glassed your entire PLANET"
gilded mason
He just sidestepped the "half a continent" thing
abstract venture
No
gilded mason
I imagine because he knew the sentiment Hood was going for, which was "I can't believe you had the gall to glass Earth"
humble yacht
Rtas is very serious about getting rid of that stench
Someone should introduce him to Febreeze
abstract venture
His response was to the half a continent thing
"you glassed half a continent"
"I would have glassed the entire planet if I wanted"
versed helm
What was ado 'ulamee responsible for?
versed helm
He was the first Sangheili to be infected in CE
gilded mason
Pardon?
He thinks your character is canon.
terse lava
Oh..
gilded mason
I think
versed helm
Or might be joking ye know?...
gilded mason
Or might be joking ye know?...```
Sometimes ya can't tell, y'know? 😋Ah
terse lava
Well yea, Vadamee is canon
versed helm
I find it easy to tell when someone is joking FOR THE MOST PART atleast.
humble yacht
You think they still have Saturday morning cartoons in the 26th century?
versed helm
Pfffft
Lucky you
I'm still sure half the time that people retroactively decide they were joking when they get called out
terse lava
Likely, 1337 mini series
torpid flare
hey elites
versed helm
I'm always getting into spicy arguments on the internet only to find that someone was joking all along
It's triggering
gilded mason
lol
torpid flare
you allowed the glassing of half of africa, you split lip
versed helm
The other day I said "well maybe people ought to take things more seriously!"
I went grumpy old man
Full grumpy old man
humble yacht
The funnybot paradox
versed helm
you allowed the glassing of half of africa, you split lip
@torpid flare. But I did kill a prophet
terse lava
As for covenant cartoons..."Thunder Brutes hooo!"
versed helm
U dont go grumpy over someone calling Thel thicc
torpid flare
@versed helm good arby's
humble yacht
@versed helm just would like to mention now rather than later that role playing isn’t for this server
torpid flare
this turned into a crapshow
versed helm
Unless u go to Clan Chat and clan recruitment where UNSC and Sangheili role players can rarely be found
But ive seen them 👀
torpid flare
what is the best rp you saw
versed helm
A Merc asking to be hired
To Assasinate some clan leader
I think he was "Insurrectionist" or something, or just some Merc rp boi
torpid flare
did he like the sangheili
versed helm
Ive also seen a Sangheili role player get triggered by UNSC role players
Its rare
But ive seen it 👀
torpid flare
what is the best sangheili rper
versed helm
Depends on What you mean by best
versed helm
Funny in terms of actual comedy or cringe?
torpid flare
cringe
versed helm
Ah
Thats a though one
But Ive seen some in H5
Who put on Hellioskrill and cell themselves Sangheili
And One time
gilded mason
Who put on Hellioskrill and cell themselves Sangheili```
It's all people have. =(I found This person calling himself, "I am The Princess of the Blood line and my father is the Prince"
I know Ostral 😢
torpid flare
what the hell, this is worse than the royal family inbreeding
terse lava
Odd
torpid flare
this is way too cursed
versed helm
Atleast the UNSC arent as cringy
They act like an actual Military for the most part but still cringy
gilded mason
Hmmmmm
versed helm
Ok maybe ive over stepped that statement
But its not as bad for the most part
But still pretty bad
terse lava
HMMMMM
torpid flare
thanks, i now hate sangheilis
terse lava
I can imagine that spongebob episode with the baby clam fitting this moment well
versed helm
It does
versed helm
I think ive seen it
terse lava
Lovely
versed helm
Is it the reach one?
torpid flare
yeah
torpid flare
god is dead and we killed him
torpid flare
makes more sense
torpid flare
i thought it would mostly little kids or young teens
torpid flare
this is a suffer worthy level of ∞ out of 10
versed helm
I think This suffering goes beyond being infinite as impossible as it sounds
torpid flare
i would freak out until i die if i see another halo wedding
versed helm
Once custom browser comes to MCC you might see Sangheili breeding camps
torpid flare
we would infiltrate them, but our suffering levels have a limit
versed helm
We would sabotage them
torpid flare
yes
terse lava
The heck?
versed helm
Look up Sangheili wedding on YouTube Ado
torpid flare
@terse lava yeah, we are suffering over halo weddings
versed helm
So I dont suffer alone
torpid flare
there is even worse than even weddings
torpid flare
yeah, i am just in constant pain typing each word.
i had the combination of tv static and dial-up sound in my head
static trench
becomes the first Spartan to marry a Sangheili female
torpid flare
my soul is ripping up each milisecond
static trench
but in all seriousness, it would be nice to see female Sangheili in combat
LOL @torpid flare
torpid flare
i am dying mentally
versed helm
U dont want to inspire people to do such thing Omega
torpid flare
@versed helm we would like to be blessed
versed helm
Look up Dorime and your wishes shall be fulfilled
torpid flare
dorime finally cleansed us of the sangheili
abstract venture
Lmao covenant rpers are basically alien furrys
torpid flare
@abstract venture IKR
abstract venture
they're disgusting
noble fjord
What is the currently known status of Shadow of Intent?
abstract venture
No offense to anyone here
gilded mason
No offense to anyone here
Hm
versed helm
Lol
terse lava
Searching for the san shyuum exile fleet
gilded mason
What is the currently known status of Shadow of Intent?```
Last we know, it was helping the UNSC in policing the joint-occupation zone, or somethingThere was a catalog post where it mentioned ONI sent Prowlers to spy on it
Which they blew up
gilded mason
Yeah
terse lava
Mhm
abstract venture
And I think it was time-stamped the most recent
lucid fiber
master chief dies in end gane
gilded mason
And I think it was time-stamped the most recent```
Ye.....
noble fjord
Promethean Knights use Hardlight Weapons yes? how effective is Hardlight against the Flood?
versed helm
One can presume pretty effective.
It'd be nice to get the chance to find out in-game.
noble fjord
Well I take in game weapon effectiveness with a spoonful of salt... Plasma is the most nerfed thing in the game
versed helm
Plasma is very nerfed, at least against unshielded targets.
vestal ermine
Is Jun dead?
gilded mason
No
abstract venture
What's Juns rank again?
Isn't he the Spartan equivalent of a brigadier general or something?
I think he's the highest ranking 'active' spartan
terse lava
Chief of staff
abstract venture
You're right
It doesn't have a stated rank equivalent but it's above a Spartan Commander which is the equivalent of a Colonel
terse lava
I find it funny, looking over the halopedia page, that ancient humanity sounds.like 40k humanity
noble fjord
"Clear this sector, while we deal with the flood" Call me Captain Obvious, but something tells me Rtas ensures his Elites know how to deal with the Flood...
torpid flare
ran over sangheili with my 2001 honda civic, i did.
versed helm
How did it not self combust?
torpid flare
i upgraded my civic to a warhog
them elites ain't got nothing with my business of elite bashing
versed helm
It better be the ugly ones
torpid flare
it is
versed helm
Good
torpid flare
the classic ones run my business
terse lava
How canon would you say the other ranks in reach invasion is
torpid flare
do you want a 2001 honda civic
terse lava
...no
torpid flare
why not
obsidian thistle
Ranks? What cha mean? @terse lava
terse lava
@obsidian thistlethe covenant readout ranks like "royal zealot." I am curious if that would be possibly a higher rank zealot title in perhaps a chapter house or if maybe a sign if an "aristocrat" type
obsidian thistle
Oh
That
I'd say at most War Games canon.
But very likely just non-canon for the loadouts.
terse lava
Hm pity
solemn jay
Like I love halo and all but why does the flood betray u after killing truth
Like that’s the only thing I never understood
gilded mason
Because the Flood doesn't like you
solemn jay
Lol
gilded mason
It only wanted Truth out of the way so he wouldn't activate the rings
They still want to infect everyone and bring misery
terse lava
Yep, good going precursors
solemn jay
Lmfao they failed miserably though when master chief activated halo at the end of the mission halo in halo 3
Goes to show nothing can stop master chief and the arbiter 😂
terse lava
Wasnt much of a setback with ATN
Or in general, gravemind knew one day he would return
gilded mason
Gravemind has all the time in the world to eventually reform
gilded mason
Yeah
terse lava
Well that's ys the thing, they still appeared to hold reverence to forerunners, because they thought the forerunners created the flood
gilded mason
Ah
terse lava
Yea, would a gravemind overrule the forerunner or....?
gilded mason
I guess it may depend on how much they learn of the Gravemind's origins
terse lava
Maybe, we are never even told how they came across the idea anyway. One would assume the mendicant shard but as far as we know, he only taught theban shyuum and covenant anti-flood things
lost lintel
Guys I found a easter egg in the halo infinite trailer
gilded mason
Yeah?
versed helm
👀
carmine sleet
@lost lintel Are you gonna tell us about the Easter egg you found?
jolly furnace
Maybe those prophet cultists found forerunner records about AH's pheru flood origin and mistranslated it as forerunners creating the flood.
Or they were just completely nuts
Something i think likely given they revered the bloody Flood
Also really server? I can't use "d*mn" in here
terse lava
I think it may be more likly the shard in a moment of rempwncy told them
noble fjord
Bringing up a question that was left unanswered yesterday.
If the Didact was freed, could he regain control of his Prometheans from Cortana?
versed helm
I would assume so.
agile dragon
I wonder which would be "smarter" Cortana as an ai vs the Didact...
versed helm
Didact would probably be "smarter" Cortana as an AI is a joke compared to what they've made
agile dragon
And if she's got all the data from the forerunners / "upgraded" herself? =o
I remember in one of the earlier books, she ran some unknown code on herself when she was unable to tell exactly what it would do to her. There may be software "upgrades" she might be able to run in the future
terse lava
She took apart a covenant ai, as for the question, dissect likely could take control from her as they are ultimately his. And for smater..tough call. Cortansn can think of things billion to trillions times faster then a human. Meanwhile the didact could view thousands of warrior servant at once, and recall from memory a ten thousand long code
versed helm
I was meaning how, almost for certain the Forerunner had stronger AI
terse lava
Well of course
spiral jewel
I'm not sure if there was any spare Mjolnir on Installation 00, but would it be safe to assume that Red Team was upgraded to Gen 2 at some point between 2559 and 2561 , or at least had some sort of upgrades to their Mjolnir,?
feral perch
There were spare Mjolnir GEN2 components on the Ark.
Douglas used those to refit his armor after Atriox crushed his helmet and shoulder pad.
Of course he didn't personally fix his Mjolnir; Spirit of Fire technicians did.
versed helm
isabel also helped.
humble yacht
When were spartan iv’s ever on the ark?
I know vale was on the ark at one point but that was before her augmentation
carmine sleet
It's possible a few were stationed there between Hunters in the Dark and before the events of Halo 5
Maybe temporarily and they just happened to leave some stuff behind
obsidian thistle
If I recall Apollo was once there
humble yacht
Ew, Fireteam Apollo
obsidian thistle
Whats wrong with Apollo? :S
humble yacht
A spartan team created expressly to promote the loot crate service?
They’re basically an ad
obsidian thistle
Well thankfully they appear in other media. :)
quiet umbra
Apollo boooooo
spiral jewel
Thankfully I've never heard of Fireteam Apollo
quiet umbra
Infinite's microtransaction model worries me because we know it's going to be there
humble yacht
That’s not lore
feral perch
Spartan IVs don't have to be stationed on the Ark for Mjolnir GEN2 components to be there.
It could just be in case they do show up.
terse lava
Do you guys think the hierarchs would have been good rulers had they not been worried about the whole reclaimer thing?
feral perch
No.
gilded mason
I don't know enough about their not-human-related policy-making skills to give a good answer.
jolly furnace
Did the Covies know of humans before first contac? Cos i think HW logs have something to effect Covies could understand human language before first contact. Am i wrong?
gilded mason
I guess they were being monitored for a little while.
jolly furnace
Yeah that was what was speculated in the log i think
As for Reclaimer thing - that would inevitably become an issue for prphet rule
gilded mason
To paraphrase from last time:
Haha, yes. Thanks to recent scripture that has been uncovered, we discovered this species seems to have been left by the Forerunners as a gift to us to better utilize their wonders.
jolly furnace
I think many elites would question that
gilded mason
Can't argue with results.
jolly furnace
Questions like why this species
who arent very advanced
not have much knowledge of these gifts they are meant to help utilise
ultimately its gonna end the same way as canon
war
gilded mason
I disagree there.
humble yacht
That quote is why, in my mind, the human girl in the covenant for the tv show is not that outlandish of an idea. She could just be a secret skeleton key for forerunner stuff who serves the prophets. Or maybe just one prophet
carmine sleet
My guess is that Truth would most likely have orchestrated her kidnapping
Regret seems too focused on wiping out humanity and Mercy isn't really the schemer
jolly furnace
Ultimately the elites will wonder why humans are the Reclaimers and not them or the prophets like they believe
humble yacht
I could see truth keeping her a secret from the other prophets
jolly furnace
And f a monitor chats with them, well thats the end of that
humble yacht
And that she’s only ever taken out under escort by a specific team of truth loyalists and is disguised at all times lest other covenant notice she’s human
terse lava
They could day she was a fringe, or just a human who they absolved
Not the first time that was done, look at the lekgolo
Only some were let in, everyone else wipeout
carmine sleet
Likely kept confined to a specific part of High Charity or some hidden facility that only Truth and a few others know about opposed to being a human they just accepted into the Covenant
jolly furnace
I just cant buy a human in the covenant
terse lava
Look on the. Bright side
We will finally get more deep covie lore
Hated the idea of her until that thought came up
gilded mason
I just hope they don't use her in place of Covenant antagonists.
carmine sleet
I honestly have a feeling that things are likely not quite as literal as they are in what the article said
jolly furnace
I think thats what they are doing
carmine sleet
Also, it's already been confirmed that's not what's happening, Ostral
jolly furnace
Covies need CGI
carmine sleet
Or practical effects, like animatronics, like those seen in the Landfall and ODST live action trailers
terse lava
So what? Give the thing enough budget
jolly furnace
higher budget means more money needed to make profit when it comes out
gilded mason
Also, it's already been confirmed that's not what's happening, Ostral```
Ah goodSo what? Give the thing enough budget
That’s what every show or movie maker would say if it was a realistic option
But how do you convince producers to just give you more funding? That’s how projects get canceled
terse lava
I know, I'm an optimistic 😔
Just feels cheap to have it be a pure human covie enemy, even if I have warmed to the idea
quiet umbra
turning rebellious elite figures into arbiters predates finding humanity by a longshot
so no the SanShyuum were always engaged in political skullduggery to maintain the covenant caste system
with them at the top
carmine sleet
Who said anything about that, X?
quiet umbra
earlier question about Prophets bec=ing good leaders
being*
I mean maybe that makes them good leaders but definately not aspirational or moral ones
carmine sleet
Right... But nobody said anything about Arbiters
quiet umbra
ik just an example of their political gamesmanship
when elites question the prohets too much they get declared heretics
and are often turned into arbiters
terse lava
That question.i was thinking more along the lines of say truth, he wanted to give out forerunner relics more efficiently and was the only one who supported the unggoy before their rebellion
As a minister he appeared to have a rather level head
quiet umbra
Truth in Halo 3 by comparison just sounds like he OD'd on his own koolaid
terse lava
Yea
quiet umbra
What a bizarre writing blunder 😦
terse lava
Could argue he lost it when he knew high charity could fall
gilded mason
If only they had Staten. 😔
terse lava
Indeed
quiet umbra
Did Staten not write 3
gilded mason
Yeah. He was busy with other projects at the time
quiet umbra
I know Halo 3 deliberately has a more straightforward, approachable story but Truth just seems like he went crazy
terse lava
My head canon was that maybe he truly thought high chairty wouldn't fall. On seeing it did, in part thanks to himself. Seeing the loss of the city, along with most of his own kind sent him over the edge
I mean look how that prelate reacted on realizing he could have saved his family and didn't
quiet umbra
Even right at the end he's babbling like a mad king which was just bizarre
he did get infected by the flood tho
quiet umbra
chad gravemind basically un-infecting Truth because Arby wanted to kill the real Truth
nice 👌
I like that the Gravemind is big on irony and poeticism,, he'll hinder his own agenda for the sake of theatricality
terse lava
He did also admit as the primordial that suffering was "sweetness." Truth at that point was one large piece of candy literally and figuratively
jolly furnace
Maybe GM subtley implanted him with logic plague while still in High charithy
Since GM can do that just by talking
GMs very words are evil and corruption
gilded mason
I don't really see when he would have the time or chance
jolly furnace
Its will and malice and desire to corrupt absolute
quiet umbra
uhh I'm not sure it can logic plague organic life before it reaches Key Mind status
y'know when it can logic plague remotely and command star roads
humble yacht
That doesn’t mean anything
jolly furnace
and truth was reassuring the covies in countering GM's threats
Its a half serious suggestion
quiet umbra
I don't think it works with that much of a seperation
jolly furnace
GM may not need Key Mind status
gilded mason
uhh I'm not sure it can logic plague organic life before it reaches Key Mind status
Keymind is any level of Flood coordinated intellect
humble yacht
The only known living organism to get plagued was the Didact
quiet umbra
at that point GM wasnt even on HC
jolly furnace
we may end with cortana logic plagued
humble yacht
And that took direct communication over a period of time
jolly furnace
GM doesn't eed to be
humble yacht
Like, face to face communication
jolly furnace
Again its a half joking suggestion
humble yacht
Well I’m fully rejecting it
jolly furnace
I dont expect a sufficient answer to thruths persona change in 3
He just lost the plot in the weeks between 2 and 3
humble yacht
we may end with cortana logic plagued
Hopefully not. I want to keep that theory far far away
gilded mason
Indeed
jolly furnace
the fact 343i have a work in canon suggesting makes me think they will do it
quiet umbra
absolutely plausible theories not entertained in a lore channel?
humble yacht
They don’t really
quiet umbra
😩
gilded mason
the fact 343i have a work in canon suggesting makes me think they will do it```
They had a character suggest it, but that was part of a whole series of different suggestions for why she's acting the way she isThat loot drop hardly suggested that Cortana herself had the plague
rigid sundial
she is just on space drugs and is having a bad trip
humble yacht
Subject Denver mentioned the plague merely as a reason that the covenant didn’t give too much ability/authority to AI
jolly furnace
I know but the fact the idea was entertained makes me think they could go with it
gilded mason
A bunch of different things were entertained, though
obsidian thistle
Well the series 2 Loot Drops were mainly this in a nutshell...
"Cortana has numerous reasons to turn out the way she did."
Thats it lol
gilded mason
Yup
quiet umbra
We already have precedent that Cortana was logic plagued in the past
obsidian thistle
It funnily enough added very lil to the narrative bar minor stuff.
quiet umbra
think of it like a backdoor for hacking
obsidian thistle
Which to be fair if the only place of said lore was "that" I dont disagree with 343i not putting major stuff into them
quiet umbra
mfw lore in loot boxes >_<
terse lava
With that lootbox I am more shocked that 1. The San shyuum lived that long and 2. No covenant picked him up
obsidian thistle
Great schism yo
Havok all around
Displaced so many people
And ships can only handle so many people.
I almost bet you that no matter how many both sides saved. Many had to be left behind or fight for themselves.
terse lava
Oh yea, billions died just around high charity
humble yacht
We already have precedent that Cortana was logic plagued in the past
I don’t think we do. We just have knowledge that the gravemind tried to convert her, but she was saved just before that could happen. Considering that next action she took was the one thing that could actually hurt the flood, evidence suggests that she wasn’t full blow logic plagued
terse lava
Do find that amusing though that 7 billion lived in high chairty
humble yacht
Hm
Well when you consider that most of the surface area of the earth is uninhabited by humans, I guess it’s not that surprising that so many organisms could be packed into such a small space
terse lava
True it's just the first time I have seen that idea put into practice in fiction
humble yacht
Though HC also seemed to have a lot of unused space
The area surrounding the key ship was so open and vast
Think about how many residential levels that space could have been used for
obsidian thistle
gilded mason
Man, the scale for in-game H2A High Charity is a bit screwy
obsidian thistle
I somehow get Midgar (FFVII) vibes from it xD I wont lie.
gilded mason
Those buildings look way too thick and tall for me, makes the place look really small
obsidian thistle
It deffo is a change from the old version https://www.halopedia.org/images/3/30/City.jpg
Where the old version was more flat
torpid flare
which one is better
terse lava
I love the new one; that is the one from the h2A cutscenes. If in-game, halo 2 classic as the buuildings.looked alien
gilded mason
Yeah, H2A terminals have a good scale for High Charity
obsidian thistle
I'd say the H2A one is "better" in a narrative point of view. But the H2C one flows better.
terse lava
Well H2A clips really put the proper scale in. You can barely make out the buildings compared to the key ship
Btw if I recall, wasnt the entire city floating over a massive methane field?
bright briar
Why is that unfortunate?
torpid flare
terse lava
Btw, anyone else think the jiralhanae were only allowed into the Covenant as a way to free up the control the sangheili had over the military
torpid flare
yeah, it is certain
abstract venture
It's worth noting though that the city is an extremely tiny portion of the actual station
In the Warfleet cross section it's shown to only be the very tip, with the rest being the stations different systems, defenses, docks and manufacturies
terse lava
True, the outer shell does have "city stations" that each hold tens of millions
Found it a tad interesting though that warfleet points out that the inner areas of the docks became inactive 1000 years ago
abstract venture
When I first read that I thought there could still be some time of underworld there, like the underhive of a hive city for 40k
Could make a cool story in halo
terse lava
Could, though that idea seemed to be implied in the further down docks
The "shadow" ports
abstract venture
Yeah, they could also be an explanation for the UNSC sneaking into high charity in the past
feral perch
That story is wack
terse lava
I hated that idea
abstract venture
it do be like dat sometimes
terse lava
A station whose fleet of hundreds wiped out anything larger then a cm... somehow fails to detect a single human
abstract venture
Prowlers op
terse lava
Chief gets the excuse of being teleported on. The flood get a break due to civil war kept the covenant from wiping the frigate on impact
gilded mason
Yeah, I don't buy it either
abstract venture
Imo ONI filled a prowler with Spartans wearing Ranger armor, with that doctor aboard and got on somehow
Maybe even used help from criminal elements in the Covenant, like the ones who ran the 'shadow ports'
terse lava
....the 2nd idea has just barley more merit then the first
abstract venture
The first part actually has merit, the second one is just a theory
The visual guide states it was rumored to sneak Spartans aboard, and we know a random doctor got aboard somehow so we can put two and two together
terse lava
My point is though...they could have done it elsewhere. A border colony, a cargo vessel. I could belive he got on the jiralhanae homeworld as it was new and primitive. But they go with high charity?
The most heavily known guarded place in the galaxy?
abstract venture
Also Silent Storm establishes that Prowlers stealth tech is much more powerful than the Covenants
feral perch
For how long into the war, though?
terse lava
That was mere months into the war
abstract venture
At the very start atleast, but if the Covenant never retrieved an intact prowler than its likely they couldn't develop effective countermeasures
Since they all self destruct usually
terse lava
They cleary developed something looks at Long Night
feral perch
CSO gang
abstract venture
gang gang
feral perch
we have massive hangars and Windows
terse lava
At least the Long Night has the excuse of forerunner tech running it. Mr brute professor has nothing
Hm?
What would that be
abstract venture
https://youtu.be/0ARQmgR5pHg?t=8m23s
The guy who runs the sins of the prophet mod reached out to 343 writers who stated that the ship was pretty garbage, and more of a mobile battle station than a warship
Not clear canon but it's something new atleast 🤷🏾♂️
feral perch
And yet, Halo Oblivion establishes that there were at least twenty CSOs at the start of the war
abstract venture
I don't think those points oppose eachother though
feral perch
If they wanted to move away from the CSO, why introduce more?
abstract venture
I mean if you look at it, the CSOs each had a fleet of ~200 with them, which falls with the mention of them needing entire fleets to protect them since their too unwieldy
And they could just be battle stations for the entire fleet, coordinating everything and resupplying them
Also providing ground forces if they ever found forerunner relics and needed to invade a planet
feral perch
Sure
terse lava
I have seen that before
I have wondered though, ifbthry dont like it, why not just creatr.a new one? We know other vessels looked different then their fellow class
abstract venture
I agree
terse lava
Look at a regular destroyer, which if I recall was called shark-like, to the larger one used as a glorified penance vessel, to the largest type which has a large bulbous feature to it
versed helm
@feral perch Didn't Oblivion say there were like, twenty ships bigger than a CAS?
There may be classes of Covenant vessel between CAS and CSO
feral perch
Yes, but we don’t know of any.
Process of elimination says CSO
And gathering entire fleets around a single type of ship?
Sounds like a CSO
versed helm
I prefer not to count my chickens 'till they hatch
20 CSOs does seem excessive to me, given their advanced cloaking technology with logically ought to be of Forerunner origin given their title.
feral perch
It does seem excessive. Somebody ask Troy Denning on Twitter?
gilded mason
I guess I will.
versed helm
I would suggest the reason he didn't outright state "20 CSOs"
Is exactly because he wanted many of them to be not CSOs
Or 343 did, anyway
gilded mason
I'll note something similar in my question
feral perch
That’s entirely possible
abstract venture
We know that CAS are on the upper end of size/resources put into a ship for the covenant
So I doubt there would be many models larger considering the CAS already does its job extremely well
Odds are they were CSOs
versed helm
I don't follow the logic.
The CSO's mere existence indicates the feasibility of ships larger in scale than a CAS which aren't the CSO.
Of course, given that the CSO is basically (at least externally) an upscaled CAS, they do all probably share the distinctive CAS layout.
gilded mason
Sent the question to Troy.
feral perch
Thanks!
feral perch
Oh. Time to commit seppuku I guess
versed helm
Or whatever Elites do instead
Successfully fire the Halo array, I guess
Or get Arbiter-ized
gilded mason
rip me
terse lava
"There was only one typo.."
"One..are you certain?"
"Yes..it was[typo]"
"Why was it not correct with the rest of the sentence??"
feral perch
Mark of shame
solemn jay
U kno reach could have been saved and not glassed if the humans just had better defenses
It’s just really gets to me
gilded mason
They really could've lived if they didn't die
terse lava
Reach was doomed regardless
solemn jay
I mean if they had better defenses
gilded mason
That sounds tautologous
solemn jay
I mean the covenant had better technology
terse lava
Yes...?
gilded mason
Quite the fast reply
Since it wasn't specified in the text, I shouldn't specify it here. No good comes of sealing the continuity for anyone who might want to touch on it in the future.
terse lava
Wait..he responded to that but not the Xytan one? Pity
But yea..that reply makes sense
solemn jay
Lol
gilded mason
Ye
Wait..he responded to that but not the Xytan one? Pity```
I asked Grim that, not Denning.Yeah
terse lava
Truth be told...we have never been told the CSO was the largest vessel the covenant had
Look at the forerunners, itnqas claimed while the Mantle's Approach was advanced, it was not the largest
versed helm
For the sake of sanity it's probably best not to try and push things further than the CSO
At the very least, do away with the upscaled CAS design
terse lava
I know, I am only saying, 3400 years is a long time. They could have built something more
Agreed on the 2nd part
I can tolerate a few being around, as a jump board, a prototype to show the thing can be done
gilded mason
Yeah, make it look a bit more unique
versed helm
Let's not forget how already massive ships are in the Halo universe, though.
If we're trying to keep realistic feasibility in mind.
terse lava
Correction, how massive covenant and forerunner ones are
versed helm
Well, put it this way.
The biggest ships in The Expanse (in the TV show as-yet) measure out at about the same as a UNSC light frigate. Aside from the Belter monstrosity which isn't much of a warship.
Go figure.
If we're looking at things in a realistic capacity, much greater than 5km really is straining believability.
The raw materials alone are ridiculous, and this is all hardened meta-material battleplate stuff.
terse lava
Well forerunners had the golden ticket that won them infinite energy for such things
I would say at beast, outside of what we have seen, the covenant could have put Dyson swarms around stars
terse lava
I am literally only assuming, we know they terraform a world for plasma, and apparently can cover an entire world in plasma torpedo drones, though of course a star would be far far far more massive
versed helm
🤷♂️
Remember, for the universe to work, they still need to get their butts beat by humanity sometimes.
They ain't Godlike yet.
terse lava
The closest I have for basis I would say is this, they can pump out massive vessels decently enough and have been around for 3400 years
I would think at some point, someone would consider turning to those big balls of gas burning in the void
Also, dont forget the entire covenant was not focused on the war
abstract venture
Yeah the covenant mined out decent sized moons hollow
And terraformed entire planets to mass produce plasma
Early covenant was able to build High Charity over 140 years with only a few dozen colonies and it weighed 100 trillion metric tons
That amount of material is roughly 1 CAS carrier per day (more accurately 0.725 CAS's) or 21.6 CCS Cruisers daily produced by early covenant with a fraction of manpower or resources they had at their peak
quick maths
terse lava
The covenant will never cease to impress me
torpid flare
covenant during their peak era is like about 1000 times the production of America during WW2.
sacred dew
Could a sangeli live to see high charity finished within its lifetime
abstract venture
Yeah
It was built over 140 years and we know some Elites over 200 years old are fit to serve in the military still
terse lava
Well actually we dont know if early covenant sangheili lived as long as nizat
abstract venture
True
terse lava
3400 year difference, and the san shyuum only sought life extension in the 1550s
torpid flare
did your elite fingers mess up your typing? lol
abstract venture
I don't think the Elites would alter themselves though to increase lifespan
Since it probably required medical procedures which we know how they feel about
sacred dew
Heresy!!!
abstract venture
Pretty sure its stated several times
That blood spilled outside combat is shameful and elites avoid it
It's mentioned in Envoy also where the elites ain't from sanghelios
terse lava
Ok fair, there are many other colonies though
gilded mason
I don’t buy that stuff as being all-encompassing
terse lava
It cant be
abstract venture
Yeah
terse lava
A colony would have a hard time setting shop if everyone who gets hurt avoids treatment
gilded mason
Any Sangheili that tries to speak for everyone regarding that kinda stuff is just some hick that thinks everyone is like them.
sacred dew
Maybe it's exclusive only for warrior classes
terse lava
Doubtful
gilded mason
It’d make even less sense
terse lava
They would need treatment at some ppont
half apex
i don't think it makes sense that only the high end elite warriors are the only ones getting treatment
abstract venture
Also Covie warships had some pretty advanced automated surgery suites
half apex
it's not like they are tasked with the important stuff concerning building a colony
like building shelter
gilded mason
Hunters in the Dark and Silent Storm note that they receive medical attention.
terse lava
And can use it easily enough
gilded mason
And The Flood, for an earlier example
half apex
your Irukan im pretty sure might get poisoned by ONI
no chance haha
wait Irukan was the food the elites ate right?
gilded mason
A grain that is part of their diet, yes
half apex
hmm
torpid flare
i tried ONI's Irukan, the elites loved their grain
remote spruce
what human food would elites like
terse lava
Likely any
torpid flare
but not chocolate
half apex
hamburgers
i don't care what species you are
you absolutely cannot resist hamburgers
did spartans play sports?
in down time
reef cobalt
Boxing probably
torpid flare
grifball? but it could be simulated
half apex
well any unsc troop really
in halo it seems like all war and shooting and stress but no fun?
subtle depot
Probably after the human covenant war ended they would have more time for leisure. As for the sports though probably just basketball and soccer in free time. Spartans especially probably weren’t on organized sports teams