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terse lava
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"Feasible" neural physics

versed helm
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I mean dude

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since their concept of the soul is based around, well, higher-dimensional space permeating all that is, becoming so low in density to manifest the physical realm

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it does have a scientific explanation

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web

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or at least, model

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Use more understandable phrasing

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I've got literally no idea what you just said

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And it's unlikely to be that complex given the pseudo-scientific nature of the notion

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What does density have to do with the soul

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think of the "panpsychism" philosophy followed as a rule of thumb for the Precursors, The Forerunners and "The Domain", or even "The Force" from star wars

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Right, following that.

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That is the semi-"plausible" basis for neural physics

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it denotes that the more purified, original state of consciousness for all beings is of a higher and higher frequency, before leading to non-physicality where all becomes essentially a homogeneous form of existence

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an analogy could be, particles coming from solid, to liquid, to gas

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getting higher and higher until it's not really perceivable to our physical senses (like a dog whistle)

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there are many layers to this interpretation, but it can only make "sense" if there is a form of limitation, or "soul", for perception of the world around us

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Well, when you put it like that, I guess it doesn't really matter.

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and our physical tissue and DNA behaves as an energetic databank for consciousness, which can be expressed with certain latent abilities (which is where the "intuitive" feelings that John gets come from)

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Y'know what

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I think we've jumped the shark here

gilded mason
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lol

versed helm
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XD'

terse lava
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That was quite some time back

versed helm
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I mean I just came to the realization that considering that we have no idea what consciousness is IRL

gilded mason
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Heh

versed helm
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It doesn't really matter if Halo, like, has its own explanation for that

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Yeah, well it's ought to get way overboard when you ask how souls interplay among it all

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As long as it doesn't really effect the modern era in a tangible way

terse lava
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Not sure it would matter much

versed helm
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What it comes down to is that I don't really buy the notion that when an infection form burrows into a host and overcomes their nervous system

gilded mason
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Ghost Johnson is gonna save the day from the Created in Infinite.

versed helm
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It's doing some crazy neural physics stuff and subverting the host's very soul

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It just seems a bit whacky for Halo

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We have our whackiness

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it's in the Greg Bear era

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It should not extend too far out of that

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because it's the easiest way of sublimating their minds, through physical touch

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I feel like the Flood should be xenomorph-like with a hint of Cthulu

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Not like

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Full-Cthulu

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If you pick up what I'm putting down

terse lava
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Either way that's what happens to an infected host

versed helm
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Predominately biological processes

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Though much is made on this page about "neural structures"

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I think their structure/heirachy of infection should progressively become more and more nonphysical, the more they advance from their "feral" stage

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My understanding is that neural physics is essentially a deeper understanding of neurological processes

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Which ultimately allows you to replicate life in unconventional forms, such as creating effectively a living structure

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The human method of creating smart AIs effectively bypasses that understanding with an algorithmic replication of neural structures

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Are you referring to multicellular organisms? Biosynthesis?

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No

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Just... matter that can retain a consciousness, I guess

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how would you imagine that happening?

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By replicating the neural systems of a conscious being

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It's like

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Hm, well that can only be done from understanding what consciousness is

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Well, yeah.

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And I think the most basic tenet of neural physics is understanding that

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which can't be done by looking strictly at neurology

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Well

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The whole "neural" bit seems to disagree with you there

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In the context of Halo

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How so

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Well, "neural physics". The name would seem to imply that it is a concept which relates to the physics of neurology.

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Of course it's origin is revolved around the neural nature, but it's not so much like they are physically carrying around the neruons that the body produces and studying them

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Which, at a guess, probably pertain to the quantum fundamentals of consciousness?

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in a way, sure

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you can interpret it as that, why not

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Like you'd have to get down to the real nitty gritty and explain the quantum phenomena of how inert matter can... chain itself to this nonlinear "observer" entity to create a conscious being

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And that's at the core of what neural physics appears to be

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Think of this: if the universe is infinite, then it's beyond the boundaries of what we call "time", "this", "that", ect. You would need something as a motivator to give such things definition

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the nature of what's the motivator for neurons to travel around the brain in the first place is needed to understand, not the biological vehicle itself

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hence "neural physics"

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I think a major aspect of accepting neural physics would be viewing neurology as not fundamentally tied with biology.

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mmhm

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I might leave it at that lol, I don't want to blow a fuse XD

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Oh, I did just get what you meant with that last one though

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As in, neural entities provide a frame for the universe to exist in a comprehensible way.

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Mm. The Forerunner monastery shed a little light to this concept in Retribution, how time was becoming far less understandable as Ash's experience was feeling more and more.. ubiquitous?

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feeling more at one with everything around him

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The end result here

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For the soldier on the ground with an MA5

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Is that there is brain stuff

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And when the Flood get ahold of brain stuff, they get smarter

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When a Halo ring fires it kills brain stuff

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And when the Flood get enough brain stuff weird things begin to happen

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And Precursors can also do weird things with brain stuff

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But luckily they're gone

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One of the things they can do is make buildings out of brain stuff

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Well, yeah - as I put it before, the physical can provide a databank for their neural physics

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Also

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If the Flood get ahold of your brain stuff

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Things gon' get freaky

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And nobody can really un-frag your situation unless someone blows you out of existence or fires a Halo at you

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or the synchronicity

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lol

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before that happens..

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I suppose that's why the flood preferred to infect living entities over corpses - they harnessed an extra "mind" over simply taking a physical vessel

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I've long held that the Flood's primary resource is "mind"

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It stands to reason that as long as it has access to energy, the FSC could self-replicate

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But what the FSC cannot replicate is "mind", which the Flood needs to get smarter, which it needs to do to spread effectively

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Well.. then there are the pure forms

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how they quadruple their physical mass in mere seconds

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they have to be grasping a non-physical energy source, there isn't really another way

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it's similar to a real-world physical analogue of firewood: you can gather the charcoal from a 2 pound block of wood, and the remains will be much lighter than what would be expected in a purely solid-gas exchange

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For instance burning half a pound of wood to charcoal residue, there isn't going to be half a pound of soot, would there? I mean, that would fill up the entire room just for one block, which doesn't happen obviously

terse lava
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Pretty interesting topic

versed helm
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My assumption would be that pure forms appear to alter their mass, but are actually changing density

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so, chemical transmutation?

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or just stretching their bodies outwards, which sounds a little strange for making a tank form

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Seems to be the most grounded conclusion.

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heh.. ground

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It could seem a little strange

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But those ranger forms are tough

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And resilience is not necessarily a property of density

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Perhaps FSC can be rendered into a kind of... storage state

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not always

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Waiting to be used

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yes, energy storage

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like the forerunner DNA templates

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you're understanding what I'm saying without realising lol

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Well, I was more thinking that it's not the energy being stored but just the actual FSC. The FSC can take many forms - muscle, rigid plating, goo - and I felt as if one of those forms could be a substance which is designed to squeeze the most mass into the smallest possible surface area.

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But your idea is probably more sensible.

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Yes, well that would just raise the density

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brb

terse lava
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Why cant we have topics like this more often

versed helm
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I haven't been here for a while, so I don't know what's been the heat of the news

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I think that's a phrase

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So I just decided to talk about the most mind-melting topic possible XD

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@terse lava The thought just came to mind: What do you think.. of a Sangheili..

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Wizard..?

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hahaha

terse lava
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What do I think of the sangheili?

gilded mason
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No. Of a Sangheili wizard

terse lava
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...."your wizard Ostral"

gilded mason
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I'm a what? Sweet. Time to do some magic.

versed helm
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I think it just fits their aesthetics well

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it would look cool as hell

terse lava
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See them as more a knight and the grunts as wizards

gilded mason
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Grunts as wizards? I don't see it. Though I do see Sangheili more as maybe Fighters.

terse lava
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Ok fine

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Grunts get to be bards

gilded mason
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Works for me

terse lava
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They shall sing your saga Ostral

gilded mason
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nice

terse lava
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"And he bravely ran away. When danger rears its ugly head, he bravely turned and fled.."

versed helm
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Grunts could work as Dwarves or something like it

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maybe

gilded mason
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"And he bravely ran away. When danger rears its ugly head, he bravely turned and fled.."```
Truly a song that exemplifies Orta.
versed helm
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they're pretty savy, too

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Brutes are already Uruk-Hai, so no tinkering needed for that

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But there being somewhat of a specialist Sangheili with robes and a sceptre, would look pretty cool

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they would also breath fire

terse lava
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Idk about the fire part

versed helm
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🤣

terse lava
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What an odd night

versed helm
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It happens

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for some more than others, I suppose

paper horizon
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has the UNSC Airforce logo/emblem ever been shown?

jade axle
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I don't think so. Most of the ones on the internet are fan-made ones rather than actual canon. There are ones for the space corps and the army, but not the air force.

paper horizon
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Hrmm.. Alrighty, was hoping that I'd have missed something :/

wicked rampart
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Are Spartans infertile from all of the augmentations?

true shadow
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I don’t know if they’re infertile but I do know that their sexdrives are heavily repressed due to augmentations

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Spartan IIs and possibly IIIs that is

meager owl
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but still, can we explain the child kidnapping thing the unsc used to do?

true shadow
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It was ONI who kidnaped the spartan IIs. Halsey had found that for the augmentation process to have the fullest and most desirable effect that the Spartans needed to be selected from a younger age pool due most likely to prepubescents and how it alters the body as humans get older

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At least that’s what I’ve learnt and been told countless times

carmine sleet
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@wicked rampart They are not infertile. Randal had a daughter in Halo Nightfall

meager owl
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ok

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wait, that's ilegal

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tell me more about armor

rapid hornet
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how do spartan use the potty?

safe siren
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Catheter

hasty locust
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Built in systems

wicked rampart
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Yeah I think the suit has a renal filtration system, so they don’t even need to use the restroom - if I remember correctly

true shadow
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Mjolnir Mk.VII uses a catheter in the words of Naomi 010 I think

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It can be assumed the same goes for the previous iterations of Mjolnir but there’s no saying really

rapid hornet
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thank

wicked rampart
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We don’t know about poopoo though

versed helm
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Spartans are fertile, but they have no desire to start a family, well except for Maria 062.

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and Randall as Slipstream stated

fair hazel
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There’s no ā€œspace corpsā€ huswil

versed helm
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so the Navy and Army have logos but is that about it?

fair hazel
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For now

quiet umbra
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Mjolnir 7 feels like a writing oversight

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only 1 character in the entire canon wears it

fair hazel
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Only one that we know of. I didn’t see the logic in calling it a writing oversight.

quiet umbra
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feels like it doesn't exist in the rest of the canon

fair hazel
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It does.

quiet umbra
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then why is that the only time we hear about it and it looks almost identical to MK.VB

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it should be a big deal but it's not

fair hazel
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It’s not. It’s mentioned in halo 5 and even the spartan field manual

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The decimator armour is based on it.

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A new generation of Armour came out.

carmine sleet
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Sometimes gear is used in a very limited capacity. Just look at the XBR55, that has only been used in Contact Harvest yet it doesn't feel like an odd choice

fair hazel
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And that feeling you’re having seems to be a personal one.

quiet umbra
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just feels like if they had a new mjolnir model they would've upgraded more than one character that we know of to it

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what? Cairo station had Mark VI armor laying around for Chief to upgrade to but not Mark VII?

humble yacht
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Mark vii wasn’t around during halo 2

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Chief’s Mark vi armor was brought to Cairo specifically for Chief

quiet umbra
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it was a prototype but so was 6 at that point

carmine sleet
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The Mark VI wasn't a prototype

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If I recall, all of the members of Blue Team that made it back to Earth were given Mark VI

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Plus, we already know what prototype Mark VI was, it was Mjolnir BLACK, which was used exclusively by Black Team (Unless there was someone else who used Mjolnir BLACK)

quiet umbra
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isn't it cited as prototype in Reach

carmine sleet
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The helmet seen in Reach is a prototype, not the suit Chief wears in Halo 2 to Halo 4

versed helm
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is the Mark VI in reach Mjolnir BLACK?

quiet umbra
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possibly but I don't think it even existed when Reach was made

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post hoc lore maybe

carmine sleet
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Mjolnir BLACK was used from at least the summer of 2552. Halo Reach takes place in August to September of 2552

versed helm
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July as well

versed helm
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I mean you know how it is

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You're fielding testing Mark V

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Might as well simultaneously test Mark VI

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Honestly, the only thing you can say for sure about MJOLNIR is that it's contrived

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That's what you should tell people when they ask about it

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The development of MJOLNIR is canonically convoluted, contrived and complicated.

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Mark IV only became a title because ONI got sick of Halsey's nonsense and tried to reign in it. But it didn't help.

quiet umbra
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Sounds like Halsey just created a bunch of designs of varying quality and durability at the outset and their nomenclatures were mostly retroactive

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like Mark V, VI, and perhaps even VII were all more or less created simultaneously

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their numbered naming structure coming later

carmine sleet
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Mark V, VI and VII weren't all created simultaneously

terse lava
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Hm?

hasty locust
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How did that end up in here

terse lava
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Shame shame @hasty locust

hasty locust
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ā˜¹ļø

quiet umbra
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helmet description in Reach

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"feedback from this version will be factored into the final design" or something like that

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it's in armor customization just boot up Reach

hasty locust
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I can confirm this as truth juice

carmine sleet
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It's specifically referring to the helmet shown in Reach, not all Mark VI armour that we see

quiet umbra
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I said the Mark VI helmet is stated to be a prototype in Reach

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maybe there is a final version already existing I mean there sonly like 3 months between Reach and Halo 2

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but the one Noble 6 can wear is only a prototype thats rigged to run with his Mark V armor

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shrugs

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I've never heard that one way or another

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I mean half the helmets in Reach are Mark IV variants (grenadier, CQC)

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so uhh yeah maybe

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Grenadier is 100% stated to be a MK.IV variant in the aforemention armor descriptions

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and CQB was designed as an evolution of CQC for Mark V

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which kinda indirectly implied CQC was designed prior to Mark V

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because MK.V circa Halo Reach is like, pretty brand-new

versed helm
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Closer to the end of its lifecycle than the beginning, actually.

quiet umbra
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and also they only specify that it was designed for MK.V as a feature for the updated CQB

versed helm
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It got issued first in 2551

quiet umbra
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I didn't know that one but makes sense

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one of the first things you'd want to perfect in a war against the covenant is space combat design

gilded mason
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And Blue Team was wearing MK V during that
Nah

quiet umbra
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I'd imagine EVA was one of the very first helmets actually

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Summa deep space incident was probably toward the beginning of the war

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Security armor is weird imo because why would you even want a spartan team to run security

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maybe it was an upscaling of an existing design

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I mean I know it's a marathon reference

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but in-canon why tho

terse lava
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Maybe they just feel extra safe

quiet umbra
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were private spartans a thing

terse lava
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Flood sites too

gilded mason
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were private spartans a thing

Post-war, yeah. Corporations have their own, or something

terse lava
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Somehow I just find that funny

quiet umbra
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I get weak in the knees for CQC armor tho

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those sheild shoulders ā¤ļø

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well I normally only wear one

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yeah but they can't run security armor like in reach

carmine sleet
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It's likely random what number they got

terse lava
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Incorporation perhaps

quiet umbra
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it's a serial number right

terse lava
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Likly just given the number for cataloging purposes

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Btw, besides the ark portal, are we led to believe there was something forerunner related in the chicxulub crater?

quiet umbra
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anyone ever seen a map of reach

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whats with the giant crater-like oceans

terse lava
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Yep, it is near a gas giant which would attract such things

abstract venture
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what year did the race war happen in Halo?

terse lava
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Huh

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Race war?

gilded mason
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There've been many race wars.

versed helm
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Yeah

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Race is a fun gametype

gilded mason
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I love rocketrace

summer pilot
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race war like people from earth fighting people from mars?

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or the alien vs human kind of thing?

terse lava
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Trying to remember, the forerunners believed when they died, their minds would transcend into the domain correct? Was it ever shown a fully aware forerunner mind was in the domain was it only "echos" of them?

gilded mason
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Trying to remember, the forerunners believed when they died, their minds would transcend into the domain correct?
Their armor ancilla would try to do it

terse lava
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I thought the ancilla only preserved the most recent part of the mind, not the entire thing

versed helm
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Kind of sucks that they aren't gonna do anything with that crashed ship from the CEA terminals

terse lava
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It was only a plot point for Guilty

versed helm
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True

terse lava
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They could also be leaving it vague to use it later...though been 9 years

versed helm
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True but it still bothers me

gilded mason
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I thought the ancilla only preserved the most recent part of the mind, not the entire thing```
I'm going off what Warfleet says about an 'essense':
```Digital archive of a thinking mind. Each Forerunner's personal ancilla attempted to collect this at the moment of death for storage in the Domain. The Composer and similar devices could also create essences of varying quality and stability.```
terse lava
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...how did I not notice that

versed helm
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Then what about that unknown race that sent a signal that Spark found just as the array was firing

gilded mason
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That's just something to show that the Halos were horrible

versed helm
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Yep

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Ain't gonna lie,that part was pretty sad

terse lava
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Agreed

gilded mason
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Yeah. Never indexed. So they'll never return

terse lava
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Makes you wonder how many alien races were utterly oblivious of the flood war

gilded mason
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Yeah

versed helm
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Yep

hasty locust
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Unless the animal they evolved from was indexed

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Wait... does evolution even exist?

gilded mason
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Yes...?

hasty locust
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In halo I mean

gilded mason
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Yes...?

terse lava
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I think he means with the introduction of geas

versed helm
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It's possible that countless races got screwed over by the Forerunners other than humanity and the san'shyuum

hasty locust
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Like didn’t the precursors create for example, humans, not apes that became humans

terse lava
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Well we know many were wipes out before the war with humanity

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It seems to be implies that precursors either uplifted existing races, or crafted them and let them so their own thing

versed helm
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So did the Precursors create the Covenant races as well?

terse lava
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Assumed they made all races in the galaxy

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But maybe not

hasty locust
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Probably did

versed helm
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Which makes me wonder,how do the Precursors test which races are worthy of the Mantle?,like what is the criteria?

terse lava
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Who knows

versed helm
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And i probably butchered the grammar of that sentence

terse lava
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All good

versed helm
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So what other Forerunners cared around humanity other than the Librarian and Bornstellar?

terse lava
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Lifeworkers

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Warrior servants directly after the war with humanity. Felt wiping them out too severe

versed helm
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So that wolf-faced planet that we see in Primordium,will we ever visit it again?

terse lava
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Doubt it

versed helm
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Where in the galaxy is that planet?

terse lava
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Think it was implied near the galactic edge

versed helm
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What about that planetoid that Yprin and her team discovered the Primordial?

terse lava
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Nope, no reason for that

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Charrum Hakkor would be more likly to pop up

versed helm
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Wait,who even placed the Primoridial in that planetoid?

terse lava
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Likely ancient forerunners

tawdry nexus
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What is the difference between primordials and precursors

hasty locust
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Primordial is one singular dood I thought

terse lava
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He was

hasty locust
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Yeah wasn’t he like the last one or something

terse lava
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Primordial was just one of two names forerunners and ancient humans gave the being, the other being Timless One

hasty locust
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Yes

tawdry nexus
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Ah I see

hasty locust
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Didn’t the primordial brain stuff become the gravemind?

terse lava
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His mind was transferred to the largest gravemind yes

hasty locust
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And all the graveminds have the same memory and brain stuff, right?

terse lava
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Yes

hasty locust
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So the gravemind in 3 is sort of the primordial in a sense

terse lava
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It is the primordial

tawdry nexus
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So was the primordial killed with the firing of the halo rings

hasty locust
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Nope

terse lava
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No only the body

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The mind survived

tawdry nexus
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Wait so did it ever die

hasty locust
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You can’t kill his mind

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It’s immortal

tawdry nexus
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Ok

terse lava
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Yep

jolly saddle
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Nice Obama prism.

tawdry nexus
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How did the other precursors get killed

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And thanks

jolly saddle
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šŸ™‚

hasty locust
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Forerunner precursor war

tawdry nexus
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O

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Imma go watch a hiddenxperia video on that rn

terse lava
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Wouldn't help much

hasty locust
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I think he has a series on that history or something

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Reading is the best way to learn

tawdry nexus
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Ok

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You are all intellectuals clearly

terse lava
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shrug

abstract venture
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Yea

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they say it be like it os

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but it do

terse lava
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What?

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I am simply saying hidden wouldn't be able to add much detail on the precursor forerunner war

terse lava
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Wonder if the covenant encountered other races who worshipped the forerunners

noble fjord
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Today someone asked me a question that... I have no real idea how to answer so I'll extend it to you guys

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"Do you think a Spartan-II could pilot a Jaeger from Pacific Rim solo?"

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  • In case you didn't watch Pacific Rim. The Jaeger's use a two pilot control system since one pilot cannot handle the neural load that the Jaeger's system puts on the brain
versed helm
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There's no way to answer that.

terse lava
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A rather odd question

noble fjord
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I have rather odd friends

versed helm
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I guess if you wanted to make it so they could

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You could say that their neural interfaces are sufficiently advanced to bypass the technicalities of the Pacific Rim universe

terse lava
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That's really the best I can think too

noble fjord
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  • same but honestly I don't even get how the Pacific rim universe has that tech -
terse lava
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A forerunner warrior servant easily could, but someone like the chief? I don't know

noble fjord
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What are the limits of the human mind is the question basically.

Since it's been shown solo piloting a Jaeger is only possible for short times without permanent damage or death

terse lava
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Cant really answer that here with the two different universes. One had humans needing partners for a mech, the other has a race that has god-like powers

rigid current
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So is

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Halsey supposed to be a bad guy in Spartan Ops? Because I found myself agreeing with her. They didn't tell her jackshit and still expected her to fix whatever was going on

gilded mason
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Halsey supposed to be a bad guy in Spartan Ops?
Not really

versed helm
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Spartan Ops sorta transcended protagonists and antagonists

gilded mason
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Yeah

rigid current
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"You were supposed to fix this when you got onboard" Well I suppose she could've done a bit better if you'd told her what the hell she was even supposed to DO

versed helm
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It was just a general POV of a morally ambiguous event

rigid current
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I know this is probably gonna sound like a broken record but my god

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Palmer was insufferable

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in Spartan Ops

versed helm
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You're right

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It does sound like a broken record

rigid current
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She has potential, no doubt

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But...

versed helm
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Honestly

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I just think people get triggered too easy.

rigid current
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I mean she's not AWFUL

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She just

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could be better

quiet umbra
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heres a fun topic

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Will Locke be in infinite Y/N

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his name is pretty poison in the fanbase

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so I lean hard on no

rigid current
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Mmmmmmm

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I mean

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They can't just

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cut him out

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Unless they kill him

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Or they say he's in another part of the galaxy

terse lava
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Could have him die by Cortana's hands

rigid current
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Maybe

inner basin
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I really want to see him and Chief become more friendly. It looked like they were getting a bit of camaraderie before Chief was taken and when he rescued them

lavish vapor
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Late but, honestly all of Osiris team could be killed of screen and I’d only be upset that bucks not alive anymore but let’s be honest, buck died with the line ā€œI figure if god can hear how afraid I am so can everyone elseā€

carmine sleet
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How does that line "kill" Buck?

lavish vapor
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It’s nonsensical, stupid, and completely destroys any illusion that this is the smooth ODST we survived new Mombasa with.

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It may be Castles voice and face but thats not my helljumper

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It’s like someone wanted to have buck say ā€œI’m not afraid of anythingā€ but had to try and sound badass and it just fell on its face

carmine sleet
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He didn't exactly seem to be the "smoothest" in ODST. Not to mention, quite a few years had passed between ODST and 5. People change over the years, he had one of his closest friends betray him, lost another and two more retired between ODST and 5

lavish vapor
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And that made his dialogue clunky and dumb?

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Not the character change I’d expect.

carmine sleet
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The line he said doesn't imply he isn't afraid of anything, it's him saying that he does have worries internally, but he isn't externalising them as they would get in the way of completing the mission

lavish vapor
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That’s the exact opposite of what he said. If god knows his level of fear (which an omnipotent being would), and so can everyone else, that means he is in fact externalizing it, because everyone else ā€œcan hear itā€

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The implication being that since he doesn’t say it for them to hear, he isn’t.

carmine sleet
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You're missing the fact he used the words "if" and "so can everyone". If a god could hear his fear, that would mean everyone else could too. Clearly, they can't as he doesn't come off as scared in how he delivers the line

lavish vapor
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.... Exactly?

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What am I missing?

carmine sleet
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He's internalising his fear, which, like what I said earlier, if he externalising it, could get in the way of completing the mission they were on. Going after a VIP like Halsey isn't like a standard Spartan Op. She quite literally next to Jul 'Mdama, the head of a Covenant splinter group that had caused allot of issues for the UNSC. Messing up an op like that would be far worse than other ops

lavish vapor
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No. He is not internalizing it. The word ā€œIfā€ does not change the fact that Buck has put everyones knowledge of how scared he is on par with a being that knows everything. The team knows if he is scared, which as you stated he is not displaying any signs of. He is literally saying, ā€œI’m not hiding how I feel from everyoneā€

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Do you see this? The fact that I have to explain the line at all is exactly why it’s moronic.

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The line was meant to instill a sense of confidence about him and his team, exemplified by how in the following cutscene him and Osiris cut through an entire army of Jul and Promethean forces like a hot knife through butter, it was effortless for them.

wicked rampart
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Idk i kinda liked Locke

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I hope they don’t just write off that whole story line. He waxed Jul ā€˜Mdama in like a second, dude is a beast

lavish vapor
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I enjoyed him in nightfall, as convoluted as it was.

wicked rampart
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Plus Mike Colter is just a cool dude

lavish vapor
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Jul dying in a second really just upsets me, like this guy is the new big bad of the covenant, and he died in a poorly choreographed cutscene. Imagine if instead of 100 identical boss battles we got one unique one thrown in where we take down Jul.

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Poor Sangheili, it’s unfortunate that someone tied invisible weights to all their limbs.

wicked rampart
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Or because Locke is epic gamer guy

lavish vapor
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Why did they turn elites into brutes 2.0? I miss the sleek agile sangheili.

carmine sleet
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The Elites aren't Brutes

lavish vapor
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They’re bulky* and awkward, have deeper voices than most brutes, and don’t seem nearly as honor bound in the 343 lore. Sangheili were distinct from the jiralhane in that they were an agile, more graceful, regal even counterpart to the savage literal brutishness of the brutes. Now the elites are just reptilian brutes.

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With less eating their allies.

terse lava
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A main reason I would say is that

  1. Not all sangheili are properly honor bound. We see this with Ripa in halo wars 1.

  2. A good chunk of Jul's guys were from a backwater colony that had been out of contact for a year.

unique rune
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I don’t recall any particular examples of Bungie lore that depicted Sangheili as especially honor-bound... There was a bit about Thel in The Cole Protocol but other than that I don’t think anything sticks out since Bungie material generally didn’t seem to go in depth on Sangheili.

carmine sleet
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Maybe with how Rtas behaves in Halo 2 when it comes to his troops but even then, that's just him caring about those under his command

unique rune
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343 lore has been covering a wider variety of Sangheili... in a more flexible post-War environment where they don’t necessarily adhere to tradition.

carmine sleet
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Aye, indeed. Honestly, seems like people forget that the Elites aren't a hivemind and are all sentient beings

versed helm
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I'm still pissed on how Halo 5 did Jul dirty like that

terse lava
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Was unfortunate

deep pewter
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The ā€œElites are just brutes!ā€ nonsense that perpetuates a lot of 343i complaints is just annoying and the furthest from the truth

versed helm
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Remember those creatures in the test tubes on the Halo 4 map Abandon?

terse lava
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@deep pewteri wouldn't say it is utter bunk at least. They do walk/run as if constantly weighted down

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What about them?

versed helm
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My question is,what are those things?

carmine sleet
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Unknown

terse lava
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Yep, for all we know baby precursors

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But likly just some alien life

versed helm
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Probably some fauna native to the planet

terse lava
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Mhm best bet

versed helm
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Wait,where in the galaxy is Erebus VII located?

carmine sleet
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The Erebus system

glossy vapor
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343 elites have always been brutish.

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from the bigger character size to the deeper voices, to the elongated appendages and mandibles and the lackluster in-game dialogue.

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Especially highlighted in h5 campaign cutscenes.

lyric snow
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I agree

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I miss Bungie elites

glossy vapor
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I do hope they have a better art style and design for 'em in Infinite

lyric snow
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yes, it would be great if they could have the more stealthy, slim design again

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I just love sangheili

glossy vapor
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Me too bro

lyric snow
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their just so cool

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but i dont really understand why the brutes disappeared in the halo games after the bungie halos

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if 343 wanted to make the elites so much like brutes, why didnt they just include both elites and brutes in their respective styles

glossy vapor
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Perhaps theyll make a grand return in Infinite as part of the Banished Faction

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Atriox as a boss or sumn

lyric snow
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actually your right, i completely forgot about halo wars brutes for a minute there

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i dont play halo wars

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just the main halo games

glossy vapor
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Figure its our best shot to see em again

lyric snow
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yeah, probably

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with how they ended off with halo wars 2

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which i watched but didnt play

glossy vapor
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Ive watched the cutscenes but ive only ever played the main halo installments as well

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Very well animated

lyric snow
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yes

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if 343 has done anything right, its graphics

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although i feel like they went backwards in the quality of the cutscenes from halo 4 to 5

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they looked better in 4 to me

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lasky's face had such high detail

glossy vapor
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Halo 5 was a weird anomaly to everyone. Hopefully Infinite learns from 5s mistakes

lyric snow
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yeah, hopefully.

deep pewter
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Wait are we saying 5 didn’t have good elite cutscenes?

lyric snow
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the cutscenes werent amazing

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and jul shouldnt have died so easily

livid widget
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many anyone remember when 343 used to make those universe/lore videos that was on waypoint way back when? i miss those

glossy vapor
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I dont consider elites getting steamrolled by spartans with gymnastics expertise particularly impressive

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they just let it happen man. Dont even bother fighting back

carmine sleet
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You forget that Spartans are quite literally super soldiers with enhanced reflexes

glossy vapor
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I do not

lyric snow
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@livid widget you mean like from the ones you could find around the MCC?

glossy vapor
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im saying that the elites might as well be stationary poles

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with second long reflexes that clearly arent right.

deep pewter
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You act like every named Spartan doesn’t have an Elite kill toll in the thousands

carmine sleet
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Spartans move much faster than Elites can

lyric snow
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yeah thanks to 343

livid widget
glossy vapor
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Im not debating that a spartan can own an elite in combat

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im saying that elites got hella nerfed in 343 cutscenes

carmine sleet
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Spartans have always been faster in lore, Iso-Didact

lyric snow
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@livid widget oh, i havent seen those. yeah those are separate from what im talking about

deep pewter
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How did Elites get nerfed?

lyric snow
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@carmine sleet i understand but not way way faster

glossy vapor
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I think the best examples are the end cutscene for Osiris and the start cutscene for Blue Team

livid widget
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yeah, they are extremely hard to find anywhere these days, they were very good

lyric snow
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but 343 made them like brutes instead of how they used to be

terse lava
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What's this? Talk of sangheili?

glossy vapor
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just look at how they walk, how they react

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and then tell me those are elites

deep pewter
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They look and act like Elites

carmine sleet
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Have you tried breathing in space, Prophet? Because the Elites in the Blue Team cutscene were sucked out into space by a breach in the station Blue Team created

glossy vapor
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Due to poor choreography, yes

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good to see that the elites were fine with a stareoff and a lazy sword swing at the end

lyric snow
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so sad

glossy vapor
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Indeed

lyric snow
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i feel like 343 made elites become not as cool as they used to be

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they are supposed to be great fighters

deep pewter
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You can really tell a difference between who has actually read the books and who hasn’t

glossy vapor
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I think they tried to make em different. Hence why i think that 343 brutes would fit the h5 elite formula much better

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infinite shouldnt be a bungie clone, hear me out

lyric snow
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@deep pewter are you saying i havent read the books? I have to admit i have not really

deep pewter
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Brutes wouldn’t fit any aspect of the 5 elite, and what exactly were they supposed to do when they were getting sucked into space

livid widget
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eh to me the arbiter , the guy who was missing one lip, and the honor guards and high councilors were the only ones that i thought were cool the rest i didn't rerally care for

lyric snow
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no but they were just standing there for a second

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yeah those guys were great

glossy vapor
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Are elites canonically untrained in basic combat skills now?

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is that what im missing?

terse lava
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Not all sangheili behave the same way, thw ones on that station were shocked. Blue team arrived as they did, and reacted too late

lyric snow
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oh, good point

carmine sleet
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Again, try fighting when you're being sucked out into space without any way of breathing, Prophet. I can assure you it is not easy

unique rune
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I mean. The Sangheili we see now are all remnant forces, no longer part of the proper Covenant military.

glossy vapor
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Once again, im not saying i would singlehandedly own Blue Team if i was an elite

deep pewter
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You would die

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Blue Team has most likely killed tens of thousands of Elites

glossy vapor
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that is very likely, yes

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The difference is that i wouldnt just let it happen

livid widget
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wait is this conversation based on what happened to that fool jul, who was way overhyped for his own good? yeah sure he should of went out a little bit better but he wasn't really a villain i found interesting in halo 4

deep pewter
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John at 15 basically killed a high ranking silent shadow with his bare hands

glossy vapor
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i would at least make an attempt to preserve my life, unlike those other elites

terse lava
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@livid widgethe was built as a character in the books

glossy vapor
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Spartan ops also briefly featured him

terse lava
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@deep pewterwhich was utter garbage

glossy vapor
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if you evem played that terrible game mode lmao

carmine sleet
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How would you Prophet? You would be sucked out the station and into the vacuum of space

livid widget
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i never read the books, i typically don't like going out of games to get more intel on someone in order to care for them

terse lava
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I think he means that one commander @carmine sleet not the mooks

glossy vapor
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Well for one

deep pewter
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I liked the Silent Shadow he killed, but it didn’t seem too unbelievable when it happened

terse lava
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@livid widgetbooks are the salt and pepper for the steak that is the game, enhances it

glossy vapor
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i would have at least one guy lookin at the window. Not like any of them were doing anything important anyways

terse lava
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You would expect someone to bust through a window from the vacuum?

glossy vapor
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I would expect patrols

deep pewter
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Spartans are pretty crazy in terms of entry points

terse lava
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....from the void

unique rune
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Patrols for... what reason?

glossy vapor
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im not looking for a surprise spartan forcr

carmine sleet
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The station was deep within their own territory and sold to them by Jackal pirates

terse lava
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They had literally no reason to expect what happened

glossy vapor
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besides, space is pretty. Much better than staring at my strangely large hooves as i wait patiently for death

carmine sleet
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They're used to space travel and I'm pretty sure they were looking for anything useful

glossy vapor
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They def dont act like it

terse lava
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You are saying this from an outside perspective, they had duties to perform

carmine sleet
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If I was an alien that was formerly part of an empire that travelled the stars, I wouldn't have much reason to stare out at space if I wasn't expecting anything

lyric snow
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for some reason i was expecting a quicker reaction time from them, though

terse lava
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  1. They are not the best of the best.
  2. Shock does that to you
  3. No reason to expect it
lyric snow
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I get it

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However, saying they are not the best of the best is surprising to be coming from a sangheili.

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jk

versed helm
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I hate the H4/5 Design, but I cant really blame those... Things for not expecting 4 spartans to burst through the window.

terse lava
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Well remember, those commanders only get their ranks due to. Being vets of the war

lyric snow
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yeah, i guess i have been too hard on 343 for some of these things

terse lava
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Eh I would defend them had I liked them. But honestly blue team would lose to any sangheili might from the swords, pitiful creatures that they are

carmine sleet
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Allot of people are too hard on 343i for a whole bunch of silly reasons

terse lava
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True but not all unwarranted

lyric snow
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i know a lot of good reasons to be hard on them though

terse lava
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Some were valid criticisms...Created

versed helm
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Alot of H4 and 5s complaints were valid, but true, there's alot of strange complaints...

carmine sleet
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I know there's people complaining about how weapons work in MCC Reach... When they work the same as they did in original Reach... Seems like a complaint to Bungie if you ask me

lyric snow
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true, although are you talking about how they shoot or how they sound?

versed helm
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Didnt they lower the bloom or something? But some weapons sound muffled.

lyric snow
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yes exactly

carmine sleet
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How they shoot is what I mean, lowered bloom was a change they made for TU settings specifically

lyric snow
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oh

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well i agree that that is a complaint to bungie

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that is probably bc people are more used to modern games

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bungie's halo games are not particularly modern anymore

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so people dont like the mechanics as much anymore

versed helm
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Or some people think its gonna be like COD, when Shroud first played Reach he was trying to kill people while he was one shot away from dying.

lyric snow
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i havent watched shroud that much

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i was DoctorDisrespect and Summit1G more

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*watch

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but it stinks the player count dropped a lot

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i hope Halo CE does well on pc

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that should be pretty fun

versed helm
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I dont think it will be able to hold players with its multiplayer though, I think H3 will probably see a bigger player base once it releases.

lyric snow
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definitely. and then i wont have to depend on halo online anymore

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for a multiplayer experience similar to halo 3 on pc

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although i dont really play halo online anymore; the player count for that has dropped a ton

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OK, well bye for now everyone! It's nice to talk with fellow halo fans every once in a while

glossy vapor
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Sorry i dipped, work break was over.

terse lava
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Let's say mendicant bias kept his mouth shut when humanity was found. The "reclaimer" thing never found out. Covenant leadership welcomes humanity to join, but humanity passes, preferring to keep their own. How do you think trade and interaction would be between the two civilizations?

glossy vapor
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Nervous but civil

gilded mason
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Would the Covenant take a species not wanting to join lying down, though?

terse lava
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Here yes, for the sake of arguement, after being in an age of doubt they will tolerate humanity keeping their own leaders

gilded mason
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Alrighty.

terse lava
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In a sense the kig-yar went the same way, never officially joined

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Same goes for humanity

gilded mason
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Fair enough

terse lava
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How do you think it will go then?

gilded mason
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...I dunno.

versed helm
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The great journey would Never be achieved

terse lava
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Hm, thought it would be a better subject then the typical "would humanity join the covenant/what caste rank wouls they have" topics I have seen for years

gilded mason
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I'm tired at the moment. šŸ˜‹

terse lava
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Ah

versed helm
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What if the covenant Never formed?

terse lava
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@versed helmi simply said they lack the reclaimer status, not lose the ability to interact with forerunner tech

versed helm
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Ik i was kidding boi

terse lava
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If they never formed, the sangheili would likely have a far reaching civilization of their own, while the san shyuum a few colonies and high charity

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@versed helmhard to tell at times

versed helm
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Alot of my friends tell me the same thing lol

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Cant blame ya

terse lava
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Would be interesting to see how humanity and a non-covenant civ would interact

somber socket
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Is Emile black?

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He's on the cover of 343's black history month event announcement for Reach on PC

distant island
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yes

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well i think

somber socket
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Ah apparently his voice actor is black too

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I had never thought about it before I guess

distant island
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i forgot carter even takes off his helmet

carmine sleet
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There's concept art of Emile in Halsey's lab which shows what they intended for Emile to look like if he had ever taken off his helmet

distant island
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really?

obsidian thistle
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Thats concept art.

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But is used (but very blue and hazy) in Halseys Lab.

distant island
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wow

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i never knew

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is it the easter egg with the hall of fame

obsidian thistle
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In-game you can "just" make out Emile

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But its very "hard"

distant island
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"cool"

obsidian thistle
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And yea N6 has no face

distant island
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its like chief at the end of CE

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its just another helmet

terse lava
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Amusing

hasty locust
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Or the beginning of 2

terse lava
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Tell that to the Covenant

hasty locust
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Kinda proves the Emile is master chiefs brother theory is wrong

terse lava
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....people thought that as an actual theory? I thought it was a joke

hasty locust
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Idk

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I remember reading about it

terse lava
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Same back when reach came out

remote spruce
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i think the theory was, Emile is a relative of John

hasty locust
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Ah

remote spruce
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born on same planet, have genes suitable for Spartans, blah blah statistics

terse lava
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Correct, foolish one

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The theory, not you

hasty locust
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Lol

terse lava
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Something I have wondered since the forerunner trilogy and books since then. Forerunner cities could last millions of years. Forerunners were capable of crafting robotic bodies to put either artificial or organic minds in. Their armor kept them alive indefinitely as far we know. Didntn they pretty much have biological immortality already?

hasty locust
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Sounded like it

versed helm
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What was the human Life span during the ancient era?

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Well, wasn't the whole thing about transferring consciousness ultimately a failure?

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Like, they couldn't put their organic minds into an artificial body while retaining the identity of the individual.

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Or at least they couldn't compose an individual and return them to a biological state.

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Oh, that's right, Spark.

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I guess it's just bio --> composed --> bio that was the no-go.

terse lava
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@versed helmat least 1000+

versed helm
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Your question, Ado, relates to the notion that the Librarian stated that the initial purpose the Composer technology was to grant immortality?

terse lava
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Yea, or at the very least forerunners sought immortality

versed helm
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I guess the only logical answer is that, while the Forerunners had a functionality mortal span of tens of thousands of years, eventually some form of fundamental degradation will occur that composition could prevent.

terse lava
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Yet its implied they could live for 1 million years

versed helm
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A million years is nothing next to a billion, and a billion is literally nothing next to eternity.

terse lava
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Oh of course

versed helm
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That's probably the angle they were coming at it from.

terse lava
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Perhaps, could be also that they had almost true immortality, butbeven withb the tech their minds could only handle so many eons

versed helm
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Right.

terse lava
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They weren apparently able to live natural lives of centuries at least without armor

versed helm
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That's their crazy biological engineering going on

terse lava
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Semi-natural then

hasty locust
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At this point did forerunners just make their kids with tech and not the uh.... natural way

sharp adder
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mabey who knows apet from thosw who know

terse lava
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Silentium tells us they do reproduce....in a different way then ancient forerunners

versed helm
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Honestly

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They probably have multiple options available to them

hasty locust
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šŸ˜

terse lava
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Likely but they may be limited by the mantle

versed helm
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In The Expanse there's genetic technology which allows two women to have a child grown from both of their genetic profiles

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And The Expanse is really grounded

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So the Forerunners can probably just like... do that

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Also the protagonist of The Expanse has like eight biological parents and was carried in one of them

hasty locust
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But who would want to

versed helm
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Takes all kinds

terse lava
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Well we k ow female forerunners birthrate is rather far between too

hasty locust
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8 parents?

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How does that.... happen

terse lava
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Various genetics mixed together I guess

hasty locust
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But like why would 8 people come together and say, we want a kid

gilded mason
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'Cause they wanna

terse lava
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Because THE FUTURE!

hasty locust
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I guess

versed helm
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It was for legal reasons in The Expanse

terse lava
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Oh

jolly saddle
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I’m very disturbed, can someone summarize this? I just walked in and wish I didn’t.

hasty locust
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Ah

versed helm
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So a bunch of people could keep a farmstead in this dystopian future

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Tax break

terse lava
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@jolly saddleforerunner reproduction

jolly saddle
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Haha, what?

hasty locust
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Well we were talking about how forerunners could live forever in their suits, then I asked if everyone was just in a suit how do they..... uh..... mate?

jolly saddle
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Why? Good question, but why?

terse lava
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Because its lore

hasty locust
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Another question on the subject, if elites lay eggs, are they like chickens where if they have enough nutrients they could lay a unfertilised egg, and next question would they scramble said egg?

terse lava
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I dont think so

hasty locust
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Dang

jolly saddle
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Covenant Omelette

hasty locust
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SEE he gets it

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Oof, so lagged

terse lava
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As the closest thing to a sangheili are reptiles, they rarely lay unfertilized eggs

jolly saddle
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Yes. Add a bit of salt and green onion, and viƵla!

versed helm
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Polygamy was also an accepted practice, at least among the higher rates, as demonstrated by Master Builder Faber having many wives.[109] At certain points in their lives, females would enter a "millennial interim", a period when they would not bear children.[110]

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All I've been able to find on Halopedia

hasty locust
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Fabre’s a playa

versed helm
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Clearly females are involved in the process of having children

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If that much was uh

terse lava
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Well obviously...

versed helm
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Up in the air

hasty locust
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I’d rather not type forerunner reproduction XD

jolly saddle
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I’m so confused, but also dying, lmao.

hasty locust
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XD

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Well I had a pet basilisk lizard that couldn’t stop laying unfertilised eggs

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So it’s probably possible

terse lava
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Some reptiles do

jolly saddle
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basilisk omelette

hasty locust
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The eggs are like the size of those Carberry? Mini egg chocolate things

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I think grunts lay eggs right?

terse lava
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Huh neat

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Yea unggoy do

hasty locust
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Hmm

jolly saddle
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Huh, interesting. Never knew that. I think Unggoy are asexual right?

hasty locust
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No

versed helm
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Nein

hasty locust
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A terminal mentions making all the ā€œmalesā€ sterile

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I think

versed helm
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Ye

terse lava
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Yep and females rule the homeworld

hasty locust
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WAIT! How the heck are baby prophets made if they can’t get out of their chairs

versed helm
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R they like dathomirians

hasty locust
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Kinda reminds me of wall-e

versed helm
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They can get out of their chairs and walk like old penguins

hasty locust
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Oh

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So it’s not like wall-e

jolly saddle
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I want answers. No, I need answers. How do prophets bang?

terse lava
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Well

hasty locust
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😳

terse lava
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They intertwine necks

jolly saddle
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Oh god, I’m actually crying laughing.

versed helm
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I mean

terse lava
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The female will nibble the lobes

hasty locust
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When a mommy prophet and a daddy prophet HAVE UNDYING FAITH IN THE GREAT JOURNEY

versed helm
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There is literally a scene where that uh

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Happens

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In Shadow of Intent

terse lava
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This is all from broken circle btw

hasty locust
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Are you serious, looters

terse lava
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That book too

versed helm
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Staten is responsible for like 50% of alll Halo lewdity

hasty locust
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I don’t remember that

versed helm
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Actually

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66%

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33% is Denning

hasty locust
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And these two write what books?

jolly saddle
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I want to hear the prophet of truth talk seductively rn. That would make my day.

versed helm
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Staten wrote Contact Harvest

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Which has the Johnson uh, adult scene

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And also Shadow of Intent

terse lava
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@jolly saddlehe had concubines

versed helm
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And he was also the dude who did the Halo CE and Halo 2 cutscenes

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he was like a proper Bungie story director

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And uh, Denning's done Last Light, Retribution, Silent Storm and Oblivion

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And a short story

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Retribution's his one, where a Forerunner AI spies on a fraternizing UNSC officer to basically blackmail him

terse lava
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Kinky

versed helm
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Implied threesome

hasty locust
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You know these authors off the top of your head?

versed helm
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I mean

hasty locust
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Amazing

versed helm
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One of my hobbies is Halopedia editing

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So yea

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I'm very familiar with the Halo EU

hasty locust
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Very awesome

versed helm
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I do have some gaps, though, as Ado can attest

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I'm primarily a UNSC-lore specialist

hasty locust
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I didn’t know you were a halopedia guy

terse lava
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just imagine that forerunner bargingnin going, "UNACCAEPTABLE, ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE"

jolly saddle
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@terse lava talking seductively ā€œCome here my mistress, I have to inform you of the great journey we are about to take part in.ā€

versed helm
terse lava
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...

hasty locust
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^then that happens

versed helm
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Wait

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There we go

terse lava
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By the rings this is too much

hasty locust
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Well we already know elites don’t have ahem reproductive organs, at least not external ones

versed helm
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Man, have I got the subculture for you

hasty locust
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Just look at the opening for H2

jolly saddle
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So, like male frogs, how their testicles are located somewhere inside of them?

versed helm
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@gilded mason

terse lava
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Yea

versed helm
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Like most modern lizard their reproductive organs probably "eject" out of their crotch

terse lava
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Mhm

versed helm
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"eject"

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Lovely word

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It implies an abrupt suddenness to it all

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Indeed

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Perhaps accompanied by a comedic "doing" sound effect

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A meatier doing šŸ˜

hasty locust
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Oh god

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Well snakes have like two, kinda like an outlet

versed helm
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Imagine if Grim dropped by now

hasty locust
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XD

versed helm
terse lava
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...this better not devolve into a covenant "40 shades of purple"

jolly saddle
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Oh no. This is like getting ā€œThe talkā€ all over again.

versed helm
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ONO IT'S A MOD

fair hazel
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Okay I think it's time for the conversation to head somewhere else..

hasty locust
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SCRAM!

versed helm
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hit the deck

terse lava
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Better

versed helm
hasty locust
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Just read ā€œ40 shades of purpleā€, and I think I just woke up my dog

versed helm
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arbiter we must go, the mods have our scent arbiter

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^

jolly saddle
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To the voice chat!

versed helm
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Then they must love the smell of pervert

hasty locust
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I don’t think I’ve ever laughed this hard at a discord conversation

jolly saddle
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And fresh elite $@&ā€

versed helm
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The smell of crotch organs to be specific šŸ˜

terse lava
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Anyway...if you luved in the forerunner era, which civilization which you want to live in?

versed helm
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I think I'd probably like to be a Forerunner

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Getting eaten by the Flood is a small price to pay for tens of thousands of years of just

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Chillin in space utopia

hasty locust
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With 100+ wives, if you know what I mean

versed helm
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Id like to be a space wizar- oh wrong franchise

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Problem with egalitarian polygamy

hasty locust
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A Jedi?

versed helm
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All those wives have 100+ husbands

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An evil space wizard

hasty locust
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Shoot you’re right

versed helm
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Ngl I could vibe with it

fair hazel
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okay lets stop

jolly saddle
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How would an elite omelette taste? Somewhat like a chicken’s?

hasty locust
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We switched, didn’t we

versed helm
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More like a lizard egg omelette

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Probably like an Iguana omelette

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^

terse lava
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.....ugh

hasty locust
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Yeah

versed helm
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It might have some disgusting alien bacteria tho

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Not tasty

fair hazel
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Does anyone else like Melody a lot? from Halo: Envoy?

versed helm
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I like Jai

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"Ahh yes, the negotiator"

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She's cool

hasty locust
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XD

fair hazel
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i like her, what she believes in, what she does

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i guess to me shes one of the characters that stuck with em

versed helm
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Would a grunt egg be rubbery?

fair hazel
#

...

hasty locust
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No

terse lava
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.....

versed helm
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šŸ˜

hasty locust
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Sorry for all the multi messages, my internet isn’t doing to well

versed helm
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Its gucci boi

jolly saddle
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How would a flood omelette taste? Like pop a couple and throw them into a pan?

versed helm
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Probably rotten

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It would taste like your body mutating

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Followed by eternal torment

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Until such time as your infected carcass was blown away

jolly saddle
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Lost in their amazing flavor.

versed helm
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What would linguini pasta with lekgolo worms taste like?

hasty locust
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I bet that there’s a pasta made of grunt eggs and that covenant wheat/grain

jolly saddle
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Lekgolo omelette.

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Covenant pasta

hasty locust
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Yes

versed helm
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Jiralhanae probably know all of these answers

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If I could some how travel into a fictional World

jolly saddle
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Covies ā€˜n cheese

versed helm
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Ooh

gilded mason
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Why'd ya tag me, Looty.

versed helm
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Some r34 material

terse lava
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Was for a sangheili topic earlier

gilded mason
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Ah

jolly saddle
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Covies. Duck! Autocorrect

hasty locust
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If you could hop into the halo universe at any time would race would you wanna be and at what time?

versed helm
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r34 Sangheili material to be specific

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Id wanna be a hooman

gilded mason
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If you could hop into the halo universe at any time would race would you wanna be and at what time?
I guess post-Created as a Sangheili

terse lava
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sigh

versed helm
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A human in 2603

terse lava
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Hm...maybe a original covenant sangheili

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@gilded masonbut you miss out on high charity

gilded mason
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Very true

versed helm
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Do Jiralhanae bathe

hasty locust
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Yes

jolly saddle
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Bathe in the blood of their enemies.

hasty locust
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Maybe

gilded mason
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So...Height of Covenant, but make sure to avoid any fighting and get the hell outta dodge before the Delta Halo stuff

terse lava
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Sounds good

hasty locust
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So like 2300-2400 sangheli?

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And would you opt in for the premium know your past memories package for 10 years cut off your life?

gilded mason
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Hey now, what's the point of going if I don't have my memories?

terse lava
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Yea we tired that before

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Tried

hasty locust
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XD

gilded mason
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So like 2300-2400 sangheli?
Also, nah. I wanna survive to post-war.

versed helm
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You'd be a 200 year old squid boi, just like another squid head from a certain book

hasty locust
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Hmm

terse lava
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To be honest we are never told when the height of the covenant was

hasty locust
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So just a bit before human covenant war but on a far away outpost

gilded mason
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That'd work.

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But I'd still wanna visit High Charity

jolly saddle
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Is any of halo legends canon, I watched it, and was very confused at all of the martial-artsy stuff.

gilded mason
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Is any of halo legends canon, I watched it, and was very confused at all of the martial-artsy stuff.```
Events, not visuals
terse lava
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Yep

hasty locust
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I like to think it’s not

gilded mason
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Except for Odd One Odd, which is completely non-canon

versed helm
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Id like to see a Covie POV book that takes place before the Halo games, the book would focuse on the Covies war against another alien empire, idk if that sound ridicoulos or not but Hey, id like to see a covie POV someday.

hasty locust
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That would be cool

jolly saddle
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@hasty locust same, I think they took too much creative liberty on it.

hasty locust
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Game would be better though

versed helm
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"Events not visuals" might be the rule for everything that's not the most recent sources.

gilded mason
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Sure seems like it sometimes. šŸ˜‹

jolly saddle
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I’d love to see a game or book from a civilian’s perspective.

terse lava
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@versed helmšŸ‘

versed helm
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Battle Born. If you like YA.

terse lava
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Will pass on that

versed helm
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Legacy of Onyx. If you like YA in disguise.

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Personally I prefer space army men.

hasty locust
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What’s YA stand for? (Sorry)

versed helm
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Young Adult.

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School reader type stuff.

feral perch
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Halo's best mix of Young Adult and gritty military action is Ghosts of Onyx IMO.

jolly saddle
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Would a book from a flood form’s perspective be just gargling and wet noises?

versed helm
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Ghosts of Onyx is YA?

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I think there may be some confusion as to the term YA here

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YA refers to the intended audience more than it does the characters

terse lava
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@jolly saddlethey did that already, 2 page long story on a flood infection form

versed helm
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Though there is some overlap

feral perch
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I mean, Ghosts of Onyx just has so much lore. The Fall of Reach is still my personal favorite novel, but dang, GoO is great. Also I'm using the term very loosely.

versed helm
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Why are you even using the term

jolly saddle
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Really? Never knew that. Where can I read this?

hasty locust
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At the end of ā€œthe floodā€ there is an infection form bit

jolly saddle
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Mm, thanks!

terse lava
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Yep

feral perch
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Because the Spartan-IIIs are young adults by the end of the book.

hasty locust
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It’s the confusing part that’s like HUNGER LOVE FOOD HUNGER FIGHT HUNGER

terse lava
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Not much really

versed helm
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Yeah but the book is clearly intended for mature audiences

feral perch
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Jump. Texture.

versed helm
#

So like

terse lava
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Yea just "hunger,food, free" etc

versed helm
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Stahp

feral perch
#

Food? Not food. Searching.

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Food. FEAST. Burrow.

terse lava
#

Yep

hasty locust
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I would write it all down here but that’s probably spam

jolly saddle
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Recently bought the flood on eBay. I’ll be sure to skip forwards and read that bit.

hasty locust
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It’s after the book

versed helm
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Read the whole thing in sequence you madman

hasty locust
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Like if you’ve ever read TFOR and there’s those ONI documents at the end

terse lava
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Heretical filth, read it properly

jolly saddle
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I just read the ending of the fall of reach. Oh wait...

versed helm
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Only in the DE versions

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Tho

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Like the 2011 ones

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KILL THE HERETIC!!!

jolly saddle
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The Great Journey has ended for you...

hasty locust
#

I’ve got the whole halo book collection on my kindle

jolly saddle
#

I’m slowly piece-ing mine together. Any good suggestions on where to buy?

hasty locust
#

Amazon

jolly saddle
#

Imma go check that out.

quiet umbra
#

Is the master chief Easter egg in reach legendary exclusive