#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 291

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Until an energy projector disables it in half a second. 😋

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Plus a lot of the former Covenant races lack stability and unity with the Banished being an exception

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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But that was a trap setup by a traitor in the UNSC, typically that wouldn’t really happen and probably won’t really happen again Ostral

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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It still shows that an energy projector can do that

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:41 PM

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It can, but with a rather large number of scenarios to be in play

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It’s very unlikely

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Eh

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There's also the thing with Infinity being only one ship. Can't be everywhere.

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:43 PM

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It does have a sister ship that’s partially built, and although it was used to repair the Infinity after that incident with the energy projector, there is a possibility that ship building resumed some time after

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Besides the Infinity though, there are others that feature energy shielding too, the biggest UNSC Naval improvement

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Question: what does "aaaawubadugh" mean in English?

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Though regarding the sister ship, there aren't exactly a lot of Forerunner engines to go around.

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:45 PM

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That’s true, but still, having two Infinity-class ships is a rather big deal

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:45 PM

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For the UNSC, yeah. 😏

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I think it would be for the Covenant too, considering how the Infinity just smashes through a Cruiser without caring, I think the Covenant wish they had something like that too

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Man, that was just weird

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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It was, but maybe it’s a show of force?

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Maybe like saying “Hey Covies! Look at our new toy!” Probably how Palmer would phrase it

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Eh, felt really...indulgent.

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Was it necessary? No. Was it cool? Yes

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Probably the thought process that went behind it

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Was it cool? Yes
Agree to diagree there. 😋

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Well opinions are subjective

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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no all of my opnions are perfect and objective

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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If that helps you sleep easier at night then keep telling yourself that

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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lol

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Probably wouldn’t hold up in court as a side note though

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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They'd take one look at me and know that my words would never have any true rebuttal.

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

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You gotta have more faith in yourself Ostral. How will you ever be able to justify your opinions with that mentality?

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

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By the universe bending over backwards to make me correct.

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Anyway - now things are bit off-topic

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Dont forget that cruiser was a 1000+ old vessel with little shielding

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Not a modern ccs class ceuiser

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Still doesn’t matter really. It smashed through it like a hot knife cuts through butter

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Well one was brand new

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The other an ancient vessel owned not the best

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Had it been a.modrrn vessel, doubt it would have been that clean

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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I mean idk. How would the Infinity know it was a modern or old vessel. It did it because it was confident there would be little to no negative consequences to their ship or crew

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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They didnt even know it was there

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:00 PM

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You sure? I’m pretty sure Roland pulls up the fleets positioning etc while en route

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:00 PM

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they were too busy to care

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Far as I know they knew.where they would exit

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Not that there was a cruiser there

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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But Roland knew the fleet positioning iirc, Ado

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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it didnt work...

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im sad now

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it looked so perfect\

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Feels bad man...

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:04 PM

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so close to being perfect

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Add more spaces in and fix it?

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Never mind it got deleted

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I guess I will have to rewatch it again

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:05 PM

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👁️ 👃 👁️
👄

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dang

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Eerie

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:06 PM

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I actually enjoy watching the Spartan Ops episodes tbh

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They’re not bad

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Have you tried using shift and enter, Jcrrz?
It's a useful thing on Discord

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:06 PM

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its impossible to fix it

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yes

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you assume i havent tried

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but it still isnt perfect

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👀

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Oh well

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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PERFECTION

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Well back to lore! ... The whole point behind this channel

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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I will start then ahem the sangheili are the best race, prove me wrong

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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They can be slaughtered in numbers by Spartans... pretty handedly

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Skirmishers are best race. They fast, agile, and look like the cool dinosaurs

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They are also hard to hit once they start envading in numbers without an AoE weapon

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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But their population was heavily decimated after one battle

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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That's not what happened during the Fall of Reach

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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OBJECTION: It was an excuse for Bungie to add them in and write them out of lore

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I don’t think that still canon, yeah

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Well that's good then

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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The whole debacle surrounding TFoR is... irritating

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Yea, too many covenant losses

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Like, it would be odd if the majority of a species was wiped out in a battle like that

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Could happen to a fringe race

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I was talking about the significant Spartan losses. They’re treating the Spartan-IIs like disposable canon fodder, a terrible idea

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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It really is given how expensive they are to make

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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They were when it came to keeping reach safe

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I don't think the fringe races were endangered like that

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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I have hope that we’ll see more Spartan-IIIs in Mjolnir though (who survived Reach)

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Well none of the fringe were given military service, so they must have had rather small populations

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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The excuse given was that the Covenant couldn’t see any good use for them, or something

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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You have to abduct them, train them, augment them which has an element of them dying during the process, more training to help them get used to what is essentially HRT on literal steroids, and give them their Mjolnir armor. All of which costs lots and lots of credits

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I missed out on the Spartan-II thing, darn

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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@gilded masonor they filled othern roles

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Yeah

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Trev, I was still reading your points, just no need to make a reply

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Perhaps some were larger even then those towering mgalekgolo from the duel

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Just emphasizing the costly process of creating a Spartan is, let alone a Spartan-II

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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To large to transport in a meaningful way

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Spartan-IIs were very pricey. Shame a lot got wasted (literally) on Reach.

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Same thing applies to Spartan-III's. The cheapest Spartans to produce are arguably the Spartan-IV's as conscription was done through merit and was voluntary. The only things you need to worry about is augmentation and providing GEN2 Mjolnir which I imagine were not that expensive to produce in the post-war era compared to during the war, especially with GEN2 Mjolnir

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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GEN2 was more easily mass produced. Although IIIs were still pretty cheap due to most being given SPI

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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They still had to train the S-IVs so that they could get used to their augmentations

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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but they wouldnt have to train them from a young age

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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It's not like they augmented them, slapped them in Mjolnir and then just sent them off to fight

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Spartan-III's were still child draftees as most Spartan-III's entered service in their early teens

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Although that being said, to add to my previous point, there were some prototypical SPI armour sets, primarily seen in Headhunters

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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theyd be faster to train compared to IIs and IIIs

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:22 PM

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They would. Sure, you need to get the IV's used to their augmentations but not like you have to raise them and discipline them as IV's often have those things down prior to their conscription

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:23 PM

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^

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Remember, Spartan IV's were selected based off of merit so you would have to be a really good soldier in order to even have a chance at becoming a Spartan IV

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:23 PM

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btw trev

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:24 PM

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No-se

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Let's stay focused

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:24 PM

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and get the job done

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(Making a Reach quote if you were unaware)

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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𝕋ℍ𝔼 ℕ𝕆𝕊𝔼 𝕀𝕊 𝔸𝕃𝕎𝔸𝕐𝕊 𝔸 𝕄𝕌𝕊𝕋

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Did you survive Pegasi, sir?

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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"did anyone survive pegasi sir?"

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"spartans never die jorge, they're just missing in action"

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:26 PM

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That one is so... touching. Every time I read it, I read it in Carter and Jorge’s voices

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:26 PM

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same

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:26 PM

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It should be one of those "You can hear this image" memes

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:27 PM

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The build up and expanded material that came with Reach is so good

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:27 PM

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indeed

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"i read your file lieutenant, even the parts ONI didnt want me to."

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i can hear carters voice every time

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:28 PM

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"...I wish I hadn't read"

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:28 PM

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that would've made for a great quote

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Tfw your CO reads your social media and internet history before selecting you to be a part of his super-cool space marine squadron

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:28 PM

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See the conversation between Six and Carter in the opening cutscene of the PoA, I read that in Six and Carter’s voices

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I’ll paste it here if I can find it

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Carter: Not sure how long she’s gonna stay together, skies are jammed up anyway, gotta get you off her Lieutenant.
6: Sir?
Carter: You don’t want to hear it. Get the package to the Autumn.
6: Done.
Carter: Not yet it’s not. Emile go with him, it’s a ground game now.
Emile: It’s been an honour sir.
Carter: Likewise. I’ll do what a can to draw their fire. Six, that AI chose you, she made the right choice.

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:29 PM

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𝔼ℙ𝕀ℂ 𝕄𝕌𝕊𝕀ℂ

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Yeah the music adds to that scene

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You can feel the desperation

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Cortana made the right choice in sending in the cutest delivery Spartan to get her to Master Blaster

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Cutest?

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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yes

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:31 PM

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How do you know such things? Have you seen thy face?

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:31 PM

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he looks like Steve Buscemi

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Or Morgan freeman

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Mother of God...

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Would have won his battles without firing a shot

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:33 PM

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On the outside, he sounds cool. In his mind, he sounds like the dude from In Freeman's Mind

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I dislike that line, actually. The Pegasi one

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I really don’t like hearing the “Spartans Never Die” like now, tbh.

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:35 PM

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They never die, they just get turned to ash

agile tangle Jan 20, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Noble team would like to have a word with you

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I don’t think bodies naturally turn to ash, Ado

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Anytime I hear it or see it it comes off as memey and cliche. It has none of the meaning of when Kurt says it.

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:35 PM

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They do on reach

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Least once the covenant was done

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Well that’s unnatural

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Reach never got glassed, Thanos just snapped the Spartans out of existence and Noble Team were trying to protect the Infinity Stones

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Pls don’t

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I never said it was natural

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:37 PM

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I did in my first post, hence that reply

hoary seal Jan 20, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Pp

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Hm

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Sanwich, pls don’t

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Anyway....do you think it was a good idea for the forerunners to leave the galaxy?

hollow meadow Jan 20, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Too toxic man. They needed to get out from those pesky Flood

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Yet think some should have stayed just to monitor it

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:46 PM

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they had monitors tho uny

inner basin Jan 20, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Monitors were strictly kept to their dedicated Installations cause if they were ever captured by the Flood, the knowledge they’d have would be limited that way, but if they were monitoring the galaxy then it’d be more dangerous for the galaxy as a whole

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Was thinking more from the ark, or a place without flood

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 7:51 PM

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i guess, but i dont really see why theyd have to monitor the galaxy with the flood gone and all, they just wanted life to continue, monitors were placed to monitor their own installations which were mostly the ones with any flood left.

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but hey

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thats my view 👀

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Well we saw where that went with 2401 penititive tangent

safe siren Jan 20, 2020, 8:10 PM

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TIL chairs are useful against Flood

remote spruce Jan 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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yas

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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As are flotation devices, There's a reason the rings were given their shape

astral dust Jan 20, 2020, 8:58 PM

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So are the only SII’s left, Red Team and Blue Team?

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 9:01 PM

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There'a also Gray Team, at least some of Omega Team, and Naomi

astral dust Jan 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Okay, ill have to read up on those teams

safe siren Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Do Omega appear in any books?

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Just in HW

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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And HW2 multiplayer but that's a non-canon appearance of the team featuring canon members

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 9:50 PM

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We have too many Spartans

astral dust Jan 20, 2020, 10:03 PM

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“With this sacrament of blood we journey into the Divine Beyond.”

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:04 PM

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I dare say the numbers still work.

Here is a fun fact. If we hold the Spartan Field Manual thing as hard fact. With the rehabbed Spartan-IIs being put back into the fold in 2526. Then we have a very small handful of Spartans who we know 100% completed augs without issue.

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That my friends fixes so much issues (and causes many others)

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:05 PM

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FoR says 32 and halopedia or whatnot says there are 42 known post augs

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But if some of the crippled ones were rehabbed like you say that would make sense

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Halopedia (which I admin) is due the 2526 update.

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;) Just tweeking it to make it right cause its a complex procedure

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Oh, seeing you reminds me, CIA: Didja find anything about that Another Day at the Beach elite?

lament crag Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Ayo what’s the process of obtaining a resource moon for the ark

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I don’t know if it was halopedia or the other one but it gives a list of known post aug spartan 2’s

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Nah. Thats due to be changed @gilded mason

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 PM

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And there are too many unless some of them got rehabbed

gilded mason Jan 20, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Righteo

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Thats why Halopedia will have three lists @hasty locust

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Lemme find L I N K

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Brb

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:07 PM

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100% auged first time.
100% rehabed.
Unsure if rehabed or not.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:08 PM

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https://thespartanprograms.fandom.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_Program scroll to personnel if anyone cares

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And it gives 6 aug failures

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Yikes how'd ya find that relic. Last I heard that wiki was meant to been killed. 😲

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Lol

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“But if what you say is true, you will have gained my trust”

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I never even knew there was a wiki for the Spartan Programs specifically

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Regarding rehabbed aug fails

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:11 PM

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It died in 2012

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Similar if not the same list at the bottom here: https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_Program

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Also here: https://www.halopedia.org/SPARTAN-II_program

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Cant wait to make the relevant updates to the Halopedia page later next week. (Then spend the next 10 years asking 343i to give us 100%s lol)

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Ha

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Also I believe too many Spartans were at reach in FoR

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Like off the top of my head, red team, gray team, Jorge and Kurt couldn’t have been there so that takes out 9 Spartans

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:14 PM

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We still have 6 unknowns

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No, more than that

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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We know every single post aug SII

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that survived to be combat ready

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I don’t believe we do?

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Well, those Spartans weren't with the main bulk of the S-IIs during the Fall of Reach

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I posted three links above, scroll down to personnel

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We actually have a spartan overload

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:16 PM

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The numbers still work.

Kind of

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:16 PM

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FoR says 32? Spartans were combat ready after augs

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Well as said most Spartans fall under the "possible to be rehabbed" Spartans.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:16 PM

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However all three of those wikis give me 40 or above

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Kurt was on Onyx, Jorge would've been dead when Chief found out about the Covenant on Reach, Grey Team were off doing Grey Team stuff and Red were on the Spirit of Fire

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I was about to bring that up, but’s as CIA said earlier it is highly likely some aug failures were rehabbed to be combat ready

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Yeah, that’s what I’m saying slip

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Off the top of my head I know at least all those dudes were off elsewhere

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:17 PM

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It doesn’t specify augmented and rehabilitated.

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We don’t know if Omega were rehabs. It’s likely they were

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Likewise for Black Team

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Thats why I am fixing up the wiki

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So we have three lists of auged Spartans

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I didn’t include black team in my list of dudes missing at reach cause aren’t they an ONI team so ONI would try to make it look like they don’t exist

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My reasoning at least

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Ones who were auged successfully in 2525.
Ones who were rehabbed.
And ones seen augmented post-2526.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Interesting

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:19 PM

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If a Spartan is seen Post-2526. They can be a rehabbed Spartan.

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Note the "can". As not confirmed

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:20 PM

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After reading that now I’ve got that dang 2525 song stuck in my head

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:22 PM

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lol

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:22 PM

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So Spartans missing or dead before TFoR novel
-Kurt
-black team
-gray team
-Jorge
-red team
-Randall?
-James

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^add please

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Joshua died during the novel

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Yeah

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:23 PM

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As of right now, we have confirmed the Spartans fromSilent Storm are successful augmentees.

That’s John, Kel, Linda, Fred, Kurt, Anton, Grace, Joshua, Daisy, Naomi, Solomon, Arthur.

Li, Will and James are basically confirmed successful, as is Randall.

Jorge is unknown. He may have been a rehab. Omega are likely rehabs. (They might be one and the same at one point) red team are confirmed rehabs.

Grey team are confirmed successful.

Shiela is unknown but likely successful.

The three new ones in the show (canon or not) are another three successful.

Cal is also unknown.

That’s about 21 (roughly) confirmed successful augmentees.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I’m saying before the fall

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Same as James and alot of red ream

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Well there’s also the unnamed Spartans

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Black were IIRC listed as washouts so I’m slitting them in the rehabs.

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We have 5 unnamed as of Red Flag, I think.

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Actually its "possible" that some Silent Storm Spartans were "Rehabbed" cause the whole 2526 date. But yea its likely they are 2526 successes.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Like red 15

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And beta red actual

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Ye

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Beta Red is theorized to be Naomi

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Also there’s a unamed boi on harvest

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Apparently

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:26 PM

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What about The Omega boys

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I listed them

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Ah my bad

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:26 PM

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All good.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Jorge being a rehab is likely

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Could be an excuse as to why he’s with a bunch of III

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:26 PM

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We are still missing 3 Omega boys as well

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Their names havent been revealed is What I mean

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:27 PM

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One may have been Jorge.

We really can’t say.

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One could be Cal, or another rehab

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We know they had 6 as of 2531

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Yep

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:27 PM

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And operated with three confirmed rehabs. So they’re likely also rehabs

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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But alas my lists will account for so much stuff. The unknown list will have notes in the talk page so they can be referenced at ease.

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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As of 2558 they’re only 3 strong.

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Actually

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I thought omega was named

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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No one said Omega "only" had 3 in 2558

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Yes but 3 of the 6 members arent

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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;)

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@stoic hamlet

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Leon Robert and August

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Just 3 are unnamed atm.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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So we knows half of em

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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And we are missing 3

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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CIA stahp!

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:p

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Well cause having 7 Spartans in HW2 would be a wee bit OP

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I do hope Keiichi is either a Omega Spartan or on the Spirit of Fire.

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Cause Keiichi be weird yo

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Keiichi died I think

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:30 PM

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He is in the biggest limbo outta them all

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:30 PM

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He’s a good boi, just doing his best.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Keiichi?

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:31 PM

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He was a green bean

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:31 PM

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He was either left on
-Harvest
-Arcadia
He either died on
-Harvest
-Arcadia
-Future Spirit ops
He either Stayed with
-Alone
-Omega team
-Spirit of Fire

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:31 PM

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He was a Red Boy

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:31 PM

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How do we know this?

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confusions

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:31 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Keiichi-047

Halopedia

Keiichi-047

Keiichi-047 is a SPARTAN-II supersoldier of the UNSC Naval Special Warfare Command. He served during the Harvest campaign in February 2531.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Tanks

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:32 PM

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A lil extended reading for ya here ;) https://www.halopedia.org/Halo_Wars_Launch_Site

Halopedia

Halo Wars Launch Site

The Halo Wars Launch Site was a site used to market Halo Wars before the release of the game. It contained the viewpoints of the UNSC and Covenant about the Harvest campaign. This happens between the events of Halo Wars: Genesis and Halo Wars.

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Love that record

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Shame the site itself is ded.

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Id like to think there are still 3 spartans we dont know off that are the 3 missing members of Omega CSGOMister

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Well I am hoping one is Keiichi partly.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Well that’s 3 more Spartans then we have!

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Indeed

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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So many Spartans

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Though I'd love him to be on the Spirit of Fire.

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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So many green beans

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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So many numbers don’t line up

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GAGAGGAGAHAG

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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The more green beans the better

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The more we have on our plate

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😏

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Like Halsey says only three Spartans have died in the past something years

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But we knows that’s not true

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So. Many, Spartans

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Hmm

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Actually, that might confirm them as being successfully augmented

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She said that to Kurt

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And we know she lied about who was actually dead or not

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Halsey also lied

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:36 PM

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👀

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I thought it was a debrief during fall of reach

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Halseys Journal states she lied about the Spartan numbers to them

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Maybe? I know she guesses who Kurt is she lists those MIA ad KIA

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Yeah

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That’s what I mean

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I don’t get how she can lie like that

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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It’s really not hard

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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She's with ONI after all

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Moral

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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You’re assuming the Spartan II’s kept in contact

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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The Spartans are practically family and there not gonna go like she says three of us are dead but where’s so and so and so and so

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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But they didn’t

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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If the Spartans were told X amount died. That could harm moral. And so on

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:38 PM

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John admits he hasn’t seen several of the II’s for RED FLAG in years.

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Morale @obsidian thistle

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😛

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:38 PM

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If I lived 14 years with 20 people and met back up with them 10 years later and someone tells me 3 people didn’t show but I can visibly see there are 14 of us in the room

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I’d know somethings up

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:38 PM

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What?

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The rehabs and the successful were kept separated

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They never interacted

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Post aug anyways.

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Wut

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Like if Halsey says three Spartans have died and a spartan looks around the room and counts how many Spartans are in the room he should know Halsey living through her teeth

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So it would more negatively affect morale if anything

remote tapir Jan 20, 2020, 10:40 PM

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https://youtu.be/rgbO2s094NQ

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:40 PM

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What that?

remote tapir Jan 20, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Check this out lads

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 10:40 PM

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It's a Templin Institute video

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I didnt know rehabs and succesful were kept seperate

remote tapir Jan 20, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I love the templin institute

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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We dont know if Rehabs and successes were kept seperate.

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Eternal y u do dis 2 meh

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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The numbers would suggest no bar isolated cases however.

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Halsey hid the numbers from them, then in her journal she also questions if she should have told them about Jorge when she said “all Spartans were recalled”

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Is there anywhere other then halo reach legendary edition you can get this “journal”

spiral jewel Jan 20, 2020, 10:42 PM

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So what EternalCanadian said basically means that John hasn't seen the like of Jorge and SoF Red Team in a very long time?

I'd be surprised if he (John) isn't aware of Jorge's death and the fact that Red Team is alive and kicking.

(Had to edit as I was asking a question)

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:43 PM

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If the II’s hadn’t seen each other in years, it wouldn’t be hard to fake the washouts as simply being the other successfully augged Spartans.

We know the III’s did this at least to the public.

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“Spartans save Civilians on Madrigal”

John’s first thought wouldn’t be the dead washouts, it would be the other Spartans not with him at the time.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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It’s a head scratcher for sure

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We haven’t even gotten into how many spartan 2’s could’ve been on reach

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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28

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Accounting for MIA’s KIA’s people on distant ops

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Not counting Jorge

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:46 PM

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So we have 32 to start

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Jorge was G U C C I

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:46 PM

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32- gray, red, Kurt and sam

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We’ve already dipped below 28

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Black are washouts

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Still without black 28

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Or it’s theorized they are.

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28 what? Spartans on Reach?

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:48 PM

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And I KNOW there are more then what I listed KIA or MIA before reach

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Oh

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Yes on reach

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The numbers don’t match

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I’ve been driving myself nuts

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:48 PM

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They don’t if you assume all are successful.

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But they aren’t.

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Only Kurt and Randall (Of he ones we know) are 100% confirmed to be.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:49 PM

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So let’s just list dead or missing Spartans prior to August 2552

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And run the numbers

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Cal

Sheila

Kurt

Randall

Sam

Jorge

I may be missing one

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Red Team, obviously

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Kurt and Randall are successes.

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The others are unknown

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:51 PM

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And don’t count omega or black cause they are theorized rehabs

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So let’s just say all 40 known Spartans from halopedia include rehabs and such

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And that’s every spartan we’ve ever known

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Did New Alexandria have a superintendent?

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Probably

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I assume it was a hexagon

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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There were 75 though remember. 😛

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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But a bunch died

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Yeah

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Like a bunch

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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75 green beans

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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There were 28 confirmed part of RED FLAG

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Also the 40 stated earlier is only counting known combat Spartans

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Not desk jockey Spartans like fhajad or whatnot

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Which would be all 28 on reach

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Ima go back to the site and see how many of ALL Spartans we know

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:53 PM

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......

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Sam

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Randall

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Kurt

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Alrighty what just happened? Filter.........

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Those 4 were confirmed successful

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And all died

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Just use their number

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Or were missing in action.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:55 PM

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So 12 washouts with the hope of rehabilitation 30 casualties and 33 combat readies

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^2525 post aug

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:56 PM

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33

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Quite a bunch of green beans

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:56 PM

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There were 33 combat readies

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......Grey were also listed as washouts, then.

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For the numbers to work

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Thanks for catching that

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So max possible amount of spartan II’s are 45

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After we pass that it’s just BS

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Ehh, there could be more than 45

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But probably not

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Well 33 combat ready + 12 washouts + 30 dead

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= our noice 75

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Yee

astral dust Jan 20, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Well they definitely not making any more. ZING bam bow

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Some of the dead weren’t actually dead

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:58 PM

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WE. ARE. NOT. GETTING. INTO. THAT

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Please, for my sanity XD

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 10:58 PM

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They were listed as MIA 😏

stoic hamlet Jan 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Right

astral dust Jan 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Someone say M118

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Ammo

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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The og estimate was around 80% of Spartans can become battle ready.

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From the washouts

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And ded

topaz iron Jan 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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M118 ammo btw

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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So 80% of 12

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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And dead

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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9.6

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 10:59 PM

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So 80% of 42

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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I feel bad for the other .4 of that spartan

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Its messy wording yes lol

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Oh and ded

astral dust Jan 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Are the comics needed to become a lore fanatic? Or is Halo more book oriented sided? Or both are needed?

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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How can ded Spartans fight

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Not all really died

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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ONI FLOOD EXPERIMENTS CONFIRMED

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Dark Magic

astral dust Jan 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Blood Brother Eternal

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Some of the 30 who "died" didnt die but were placed in Cryo till they could be revived.

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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🇫 spy

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I felt that

astral dust Jan 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Ha

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I just wanna quote RoTS 😞

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I remember RoTS

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Didn't like the ending

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:02 PM

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R of the spartans?

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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How can you NOT like the ending of RoTS

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It’s the best part!

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Lets not discuss that here atm (that said I am suprised that skipped through the og filter)

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Yeah sorry, sir

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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I didnt like that machinima ||dont murder me pls||

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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I like my prequels

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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I think Settling is referring to a Machinima, not that big film from last month

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I’m referring to the 2005 film

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:04 PM

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OOOOH

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yeah that was my favorite Space Wizards film

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:04 PM

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There’s a Machinima

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And a RoTS that came out last month?

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Ok anyway back to green beans

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You ever microwave yours?

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:05 PM

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That said back to the og discussion. Yea the 30 dead spartans can come back

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Those essentially are the untapped area.

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:05 PM

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I microwave mine when they're too cold after I leave some on my plate for later

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:05 PM

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And thats not accounting for Class 2 which is contraversial to lore fans.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Class 2 didn’t happen

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Did it?

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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1337 is canon in my Heart 😢

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Oh no

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NOT. MORE. SPARTANS

astral dust Jan 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Was Rosenda a part of Noble?

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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She was a replacement for emile

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Emiles replacement if they did an ini op

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Well Class 2 "can" happen. It however has a lotta caveats for it to happen.

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So much that many dislike it for that

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Maybe 2617 will be the beginning of class 2 😏

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:08 PM

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coff NO

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:08 PM

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As much as I'd love a post 2610 story. That isnt what I'd hope for it lol

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Ye lol

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Why would they make more 2’s if the 4’s were such a success

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 11:08 PM

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There's be no reason to make a second class in 2617, given that S-IVs already exist by that point

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:08 PM

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^

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:09 PM

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||but class 2 could have 1337||

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Class 2 however in current lore. Is a 2536/7-ish venture

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1337 is non-canon my friend

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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I know

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But he is in my Heart 😢

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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JCCRZ why would they get over 900 more spartan IIs

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that’s not plausible

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Because

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Green beans are tasty

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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There’s not that many kids in the universe

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Only way 1337 could be canon is if it was a in-universe tv show

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Jk, jk

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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MAKE THAT A THING LOL

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Wait he’s 1337

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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1337 TV show

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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that’s over 1200 Spartans

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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In the halo universe

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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~~legends is a wee bit Garbo~~

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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But hey atm Odd One Out be non-canon. So ya dont have to fear on 1337 being canon

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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The prototype better not be canon or I swear..

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Canon

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Actually y’know what don’t tell me

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NOOOO why you tell me

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I have proof it can’t be canon

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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I liked Halo Legends

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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I have countless proof it is xD

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Proportions my friend, proportions

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I would share my ahem amazing photoshop

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But I won’t

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Cause I can’t

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That episode is ridiculous

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Because of the action?

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Mechs don’t belong in halo the mantis was enough

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Halo Wars had Cyclops

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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That’s different

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It’s not jumping around doing flips

carmine sleet Jan 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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That's a narrow-minded view on what can appear in Halo

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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But is it thinkingchief

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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HW 1 cyclops was practically a two legged forklift

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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And was a mech

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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And proportions can work when you consider Covenant have design patterns for stuff and so while we see Phantoms have Wraiths inside em and so on. That Phantom can be its own pattern thats different to the Phantom we see in the games and so on

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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A forklift mech

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:15 PM

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We also saw that Phantom in Rise of Atriox ;)

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So thats a thing. ;)

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:15 PM

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He he

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:15 PM

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CIA want me to DM you the proof!

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Photoshop never lies!

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Except that one time with Justin

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:16 PM

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I mean you can. Doesnt make the short any less canon. (That said visuals are the biggest caveat in Legends, it may not look that way in-universe but the events happened)

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:17 PM

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It more that the legs of the pilot would be completely destroyed

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Or not exist at all

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:17 PM

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I wish we could get another show similar to legends

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Jcrrz, want me to show you what I mean?

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:17 PM

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I already know What you mean

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But I still like it boi

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Its

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:18 PM

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I’m not saying don’t like it

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:18 PM

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G U C C I

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:18 PM

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I’m saying it’s dumb to like it

Jk, jk

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I can see the appeal

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:18 PM

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||dont worry you can mess around with me no prob||

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Its others you must watch out for...

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Lets not get to messy here plz

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Thanks

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:)

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Halo to me has always been on the more “realistic” side of sci-fi as far as sci-fi goes

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And mechs don’t seem to fit into a more realistic setting to me

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Like Space Trek Sci Fi

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Like all you have to do is hit it’s leg

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Well versions of the Prototype suit have appeared in later lore.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Fall of reach comicization

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/images/4/49/HW2_-_Mark_I(J)_clear.png

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Megaconstrux

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Green machine

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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More the J variant. Which is the current best depiction we have

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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See that seems to kinda negate Spartans

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Nah

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Like if you could have that

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Why not mass produce that instead of kidnapping kids

unique rune Jan 20, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Because it's heavy and bulky and noisy while Spartans are meant to be quick and stealthy

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:22 PM

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The Prototype was destroyed. And it seems while some of the research survived it, the J variant is the only evidence of any of that

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Well hell jumpers can do that job

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Doesn’t the J variant just mean Johnson

unique rune Jan 20, 2020, 11:22 PM

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ODSTs can do the same, sure, but not as well as Spartans.

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:22 PM

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IRL yes. In-universe nah

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Like if every marine in alpha halo had one of those puppies

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Ooooh boy

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:24 PM

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And it doesnt seem like the Prototype or its variants were ever widespread made. Either cause too much research was lost and they had to remake it to actually make the J variant. Or the suit is just to expensive to make widespread.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:25 PM

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We need a short story book called: tales from alpha halo, it could have what thel’s doing, maybe how stacker, chips and company got away, that one uninflected marine in the library

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:25 PM

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That suit would be WAY more expensive to mass produce

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:25 PM

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I'd love to know how the second Alpha Halo Survivor group actually survived.

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Especially compared to Mjolnir at the time

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Poor mjolnir test subjects

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Ye

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:26 PM

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I can still hear the crack

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Followed by gagsbxbhahxgshabbxbs

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Snap crackle and pop

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Getting infected by the flood was probably a more merciful death

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Also poor ODSTs who John merked

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:28 PM

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𝕀𝕕𝕜 𝕓𝕠𝕦𝕥 𝕥𝕙𝕒𝕥

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Ok maybe not

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But still

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Horrible way to go

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I still love how Halo: The Floods Adjunct (Hunger) actually goes over the Pov of an infection form infecting a human on Alpha Halo.

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Jenkins?

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Nah

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:31 PM

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the flood is pretty interesting ngl

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Not Jenkins that time

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This is the 2010/11 bonus content

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:32 PM

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for some reason the flood reminds me of some kind of parasitic ants??

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Parasitic Popcorn

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popcorn = ants

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So the re-release had bonus content??!!

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:33 PM

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CIA, I think I know what your referring to

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Where it’s not as much of a story but a string of words

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Like something, something something hunger, something, no, something

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Yep. Thats it

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And yes @versed helm

versed helm Jan 20, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Dang i wish I owned that version now

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I didn’t understand that lol

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I thought it was someone trying to resist infection like Keyes was

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:35 PM

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The re-releases of The Fall of Reach, The Flood, and First Strike had bonus content.

The Volume 1 and 2 of Evolutions had a extra story each that the og collection lacked

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Yeah I’m retreading everything in anticipation for infinite this year

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I’m on first strike

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:36 PM

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And "Hunger" is vague for that reason till you realise.

Its the infection form. And when it attaches itself to the soldier, they merge.

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Poor lad

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:36 PM

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With the soldier fighting it. And the Infection form doing its thing

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Its so primal also. Its really interesting

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Yeah

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Very few stories actually go through that POV as its so hard to get "right"

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Most go over the top one way or go to little

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Well trying to write as a tiny popcorn parasite hell bent on world domination must be tough

terse lava Jan 20, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Wonder if it could be considered it's own being

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Btw CIA what examples do you have where they go over the top for a lowly creature

hasty locust Jan 20, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I too have this question

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I was meaning in writing in general. (I should have been clear oops)

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The writing of animals can either be to tame or very over the top.

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 12:08 AM

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If they can they dont show it

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 12:34 AM

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I love in HW2 Blur cinematic when the the brutes get done with the flood and you can just see all the flood’s gunk all over them with tons of steam coming off them from the Flood

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 12:35 AM

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lovely visual

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be careful the gunk could be infected

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or the steam

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Then maybe Brute’s are tolerant of the airborne pores

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But can still get infected by facethings

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 12:36 AM

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airborne spores take longer to infect hosts

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 12:37 AM

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True. True

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 12:42 AM

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So did the gravemind from prior to Primordial transferring its essence into the flood hivemind have a Precursor mind in it or no?

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Since the flood arose from dead precursor dust

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i really wanna know what the GM was like B4 primordial became it

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Like we're all GM's prior to that one collective mind or individual precursor minds/entities?

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Flood cant feel pain

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 2:09 AM

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They may be able to feel mental anguish

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Grave mind seemed pretty peeved

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Only flood that could feel pain was Jenkins

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 2:30 AM

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The Gravemind claimed that he wanted to unite all races in eternal suffering in the Forerunner Trilogy.

sharp adder Jan 21, 2020, 2:38 AM

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yep becase the frerunnerd were angr and killed there creators the forunners wee unpepared becae they ofught they had one couple years later thrflood caem and eeryoen ggot the as ses kicked becase of the forerunners

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Precursors planned on wiping out forerunners

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Are there more Covenant races then the ones we see in the games?

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Yes

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Are they only civilian?

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Yonhet, and the other fringe species

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I dunno. Maybe

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 3:57 AM

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I assume Fringe species arent allowed in the military

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Also. Halo Wars 1 and Halo Reach Sangheili models... BEU-T-FUL.

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Correction: Arbiter's model and Reach Sangheili models.

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The other Halo Wars Elites look weird with their massive chests and tiny waists.

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Well they are like 8ft

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Big boys going to gym

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:04 AM

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None of the other Elite models across the games look so disproportioned

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Halo 5

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Case closed.

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Well, no.

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Halo 5 Elites have fine proportions.

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 4:05 AM

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No no no.

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Yes yes yes.

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Nope. IM NOT having what he’s having

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Hesduros sangheili never skip leg day

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 4:07 AM

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^ He gets it.

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:08 AM

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To be fair, I misremembered how the Elites actually look in Halo Wars. I was thinking of their appearance in the trailer for Halo Wars.

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Yeah, the trailer version was really wasp-ish

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:10 AM

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But Halo 5 Elites don't have excessively large legs compared to their arms and torsos.

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They're pretty buff overall.

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The leg armor is what maybe makes the legs look too thick.

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Now, their feet on the other hand...

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Their feet are great for putting Spartans on the ground!

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:11 AM

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They got Trex arms compared to their legs and feet

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:11 AM

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also the whole Hesduros phenotype thing is only headcanon; there's no official source saying that only or primarily Hesduros Elites look like the Halo 4/5 ones.

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Jul 'Mdama was from Sanghelios, for example.

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:12 AM

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It’s better than calling them H4/5 Sangheili

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Is it though?

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:12 AM

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And Gek

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Oh, Gek too? Huh.

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H4/5 Sangheili is strictly accurate. The phenotype description can be misleading and isn't officially endorsed.

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Like, (to my chagrin) the whole Storm Covenant descriptor.

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:13 AM

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You mean calling it a phenotype in general, or calling it the "Hesduros phenotype"?

feral perch Jan 21, 2020, 4:14 AM

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I wish they were called the Storm Covenant. Hesduros phenotype.

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Ah, gotcha

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I wish they were called the Storm Covenant.
Same.

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:21 AM

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I mean, it makes sense they'd originate from hesduros with the harsh environment and all, and I always thought Jul and Gek looked like that because of artistic choice.

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And... Resources I guess

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But just like every thing I say

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I may be horribly mistaken.

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:26 AM

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and I always thought Jul and Gek looked like that because of artistic choice.
That's been the actual reason, though they later also said it's just a phenotype thing.

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Frozone Covenant

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:27 AM

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That would be weird if the H4 elites originated from Hesduros, since it was kinda isolated and probably unkown by many.

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Though Jul did indeed get a lot of his troops from there

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:28 AM

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I still like to think Jul and Gek look like H2A or Reach Sangheili 😢

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Since they have a population of around 2 billion

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:29 AM

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His covenant was decently big

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 4:34 AM

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gek and Jul would likely be model accurate you know? or very close to

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and Jul did recruit a lot from hesduros.

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calling it storm covenant still annoys me

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Yes, but if that phenotype originated from Hesduros and that Colony was isolated and many likely didnt know about it (including its phenotype) then how was he born on Sanghelios with that phenotype? Its just kinda weird.

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And Im not saying it is from hesduros

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Im saying maybe that phenotype isnt from hesduros?

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I don't think anyone is disputing that last point?

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I know im saying that just in case

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So I dont start a 50 message argument over someone taking it the wrong way

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Anyways, thats why I thought Jul and Gek didnt actually look like that.

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I thought they actually looked like the Sanghelios phenotype, but in game they looked like the Hesduros one for artistic choice and resources.

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 4:41 AM

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hesduros sangheili ... originate from sanghelios..

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also jul was said to look too pale to blend in with the vadam keep people

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Obviously... But they have a different appearance to the one of a Sanghelios Sangheili... I dont think I ever said they didnt originate in Sanghelios at one point?

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They probably started to gain that appearance due to the planets condition over years

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Thats What I mean when I say they "originated", where they got that different appearance to the one we all know.

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 4:44 AM

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sangheili from sanghelios can look varried

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:45 AM

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~~individuals can even change eye color in the span of a few months~~

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 4:45 AM

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don't do drugs

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Ofcourse they can, but I dont think they would look so different to each other, H2 and H4 different atleast.

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 4:47 AM

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there should be more variation in CE-3

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and rach

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but, hey, only so much that'll be done there

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Maybe with Infinite's budget, they can have a random variation of looks for Elites. Nothing major or anything, but things like slight differences in eye color, mandible shape, etc.

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 4:54 AM

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That would be fun if they spent resources into more models

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imagine a random variation generator

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 4:55 AM

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It would actually feel like you just ended an individual aliens Life, It sounds pretty cool!

remote spruce Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Chilling near Requiem

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Forward Unto Dawn drifted to them

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Though I'm wondering why they bothered to board it.

remote spruce Jan 21, 2020, 6:21 AM

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i guess they wanted to get goodies and see if any humans were there

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i mean the ship was packing a nuke

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and plenty of weapons

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Based on their mission statement, would Jul's Covenant really want to use human tech?

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https://www.halopedia.org/M4093_Hyperion_nuclear_delivery_system

remote spruce Jan 21, 2020, 6:25 AM

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in Spartan Ops, they were yoinking UNSC gear left and right (for some reason)

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Oh yeah

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Didn't they make off with a bunch of nukes and the Infinity somehow had no idea?

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I guess it was a "Why waste our stuff, when the human's version is right there for the swiping." sort of situation.

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Sometimes I get unhappy. But then I read and play Halo. It makes it all better.

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Playing ODST and 2 make me happy

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Dude...

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ODST WAS SO GOOD

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:08 AM

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ODST is very high on my Halo list, its really good.

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 7:08 AM

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I wouldnt mind another odst

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Id definitely love to see that happen

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 7:11 AM

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I wouldn’t mind a Halo Reach type game but not about Reach or Noble.. maybe like Red Team? Or one of the other groups that passed away

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Gritty art, emotional roller coaster, team-oriented, makes you cry after.

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Maybe a Harvest Halo game that is like Halo Reach?

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Would be neat

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Halo: CH: The Game

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A mixture of Arma 3 with paint physics and a dating sim

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Also a point and click adventure for the Covenant segments

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:39 AM

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and a dating sim
based

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Play as the Minister of Fortitude

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Migraine remedy mixing minigame

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:41 AM

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lol

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:43 AM

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You got the temperature wrong - reload checkpoint or quit.

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Inb4

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He dramatically dies and ragdolls like in one of the games if you do it wrong

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Stress hemorrhage

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:43 AM

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wow brutal
no animation of him drinking it and then immediately spitting it out comically?

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:44 AM

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That precedes it

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Ah, I see , I see.

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Actually scratch the ragdoll

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he needs to do that thing the CE corpses do

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Where they sorta warp if they're on an edge?

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Where they have this rigid fixed position and if they happen to be moved they start wildly flailing their limbs

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But also that

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:45 AM

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lol

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:47 AM

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What people want

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Is not Halo: Contact Harvest

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They want a game set during the five-year intermittent battle of Harvest

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Or perhaps more pertinently, a game where a group of characters learn of the war for the first time

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Give it that "this is beginning" feel

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To get that your best bet is either a Covenant perspective or an un-augmented human

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Unless your opening level was literally Chi Ceti IV

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Which I wouldn't be opposed to

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:49 AM

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To get that your best bet is either a Covenant perspective or an un-augmented human
Well...you know what I'd prefer.

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Right

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~~Honestly I want more H2 and H5 style perspective switching, I think it's a really fun idea~~

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~~So best case scenario for me would probably be SIIs contrasted with elites~~

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Indeed

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:51 AM

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And truth be told, UNSC fanboys like me have no excuse not to want to play as the Covenant against humans

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Because that means the UNSC would get a more comprehensive gameplay interpretation of their small-unit fighting capabilities

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As in

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They'd get the Covenant treatment and be turned into a proper fully-fledged enemy faction

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Ye

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:52 AM

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And I want that real bad

gilded mason Jan 21, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Perhaps one day.

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:52 AM

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We can only hope.

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I reckon they'd go all out on drones and mechs if they were gonna portray the UNSC that way

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Which does worry me a little

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I wouldn't want it to be too radical. The odd gun drone or armed cyclops should be a treat.

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But then again, gameplay comes first.

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Primarily I'd like a lot of emphasis put on different units of straight-up infantry. Light infantry, heavy infantry, recon, combat engineers, fire support units, etc.

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All the specializations of UNSC soldier that HW just kinda lumps into one "marines" unit.

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Tho tbf a fully upgraded UNSC marine unit from HW is what I'd consider a light infantry fireteam.

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Typically 5 dudes, all armed with varying degrees of rifle, one of them being a combat technical specialist with a SPNKR (who another dude would help carry tubes for), and an optional sixth who'd most often be some form of medical specialist (from fully-fledged Navy corpsman to combat lifesaver-type dude). Subject to significant variation.

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But I'm blabbering.

topaz iron Jan 21, 2020, 7:59 AM

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I agree tho

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 10:28 AM

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I’d like a Covenant perspective of the start of a Battle early in the war. The UNSC deploys troops which you can handle pretty easily but then near the end of the mission, they deploy Spartans for the first time then the Covenant get massacred as the end

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No two ways about it really. That’s typically what would happen on the ground if Spartans are in play

sharp adder Jan 21, 2020, 11:29 AM

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True

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 1:08 PM

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I wanna see a Covie civilian POV during the period just before and when the war is declared and starts

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or from a covie civilian who's never actually seen a human and only hears of them through word of mouth etc

maiden comet Jan 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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I want a game where we can control unsc ships to fight off covenant ships

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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@maiden comet There is a mod called Sins of the Prophets for a game called Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion

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Probably the best gameplay representation of Halo space combat you'll find.

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Aside from, I dunno. Hanging out on Cairo Station a whole bunch and endlessly replaying Long Night of Solace xD

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But yeah. There is like, endless potential in the lore of Halo's space combat, especially after its recent revitalization in Warfleet.

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A Halo game focused entirely on that would be a total dream come true, whatever the format.

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Yes

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It could be implement into HW3 like 3mpire at war

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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That would be more than any man could dare hope for

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But I do dream of it

copper wigeon Jan 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I would love to see a game like sins of the prophets with a singleplayer story campaign ala Warhammer 40k's Battlefleet gothic, but when would be the best place in the Halo timeline for it to take place?

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I thought about possibly playing a game where you are Preston Cole, which would be pretty dope, but that has the chance of interfering with the canon of his story already, and we saw how well that went over with Reach.

deep pewter Jan 21, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I hope so, I’d love to see McDonald’s happy meal toys that featured Spartans in universe

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Have S'moa 117 burger with a side of Moa nuggets

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and a 117 Toy included

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Have S'Moa is an actual thing btw https://www.halopedia.org/Have_S'Moa

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Sheesh

humble yacht Jan 21, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Bad link

humble yacht Jan 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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No, if you click the halopedia link, it takes you to an error page

carmine sleet Jan 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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I get to the page just fine

humble yacht Jan 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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I don’t

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It doesn’t like the % character

carmine sleet Jan 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Odd

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Wonder what passes for a mainstay covenant diet

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Well I imagine they vary considering the number of species that are in the Covenant

deep pewter Jan 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Jul ate essentially rice and beef in Thursday War

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 7:36 PM

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F O O D N I P P L E

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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What would Jackals and Brutes regularly eat specifically? I know Jackals are omnivores and that Brutes are carnivores

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 7:40 PM

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I know that the thorned beasts are a delicacy for the brutes

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 7:41 PM

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M E A T N I P P L E

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actually though Jackals seemed to enjoy fruit

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Which would explain why they are omnivores

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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kinda odd, the page opens up just fine...

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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It says “Bad Title” for me, meaning the link isn’t the best

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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i copied it from the page when i opened it

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Have_S'Moa

It works for me

versed helm Jan 21, 2020, 7:52 PM

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same here

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probably some Moa nuggets

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they can eat anything but im not too sure about their actual diet

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for SIIs and IIIs id imagine they eat standard military food

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MREs and such

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 7:53 PM

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In the beginning was very proteic, and i think right now they just need to mantain an high proteic diet

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 8:08 PM

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I believe Spartan-II eat protein bars and nutrient bars and such. It’s really cause they can’t guarantee when they’ll have downtime due to how much of a liability Spartans are. I do know Spartan-IVs do go for a drink or two at bars and such but I doubt that’s common as that can cause health issues that Spartans really don’t have time for

humble yacht Jan 21, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Isn’t toxin resist among the Spartans’ augmentations?

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I don’t think it is

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Not for the II’s and III’s anyways.

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Olivia was poisoned.

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But tbf, I can see why they might not have included it. Spartans weren’t meant for undercover roles, so the odds of them being poisoned are like, really low.

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Which is why the idea of the Ferrets is dumb

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Well we got new lore peeps

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 9:06 PM

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If I recall..

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:06 PM

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https://youtu.be/AoN2mhQTdZs

YouTube

HALO

ONI Archive – Noble Endeavors | Halo: Reach

The heroic defense of Reach is replete with stories of sacrifice and valor. Some of the most notable tales surround the Spartans of Noble Team, a battle-hardened squad of Spartan super-soldiers whose desperate efforts at Reach eventually helped turn the tide of the entire Cov...

▶ Play video

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Oh yay new lore.

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That voice too!

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:07 PM

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;)

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File:CHELAN_201903012 is the first of this new "ONI Archives".

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 9:08 PM

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How new is this?

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Today

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Anything good?

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Can’t watch atm

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:08 PM

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The video is new, the new lore is referring to events month before Reach and Reach itself

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The name of the ship destroyed by Thom and the name of the Director

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Director?

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:09 PM

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A ship name. Section 2 releasing info on Spartans and the defence of colonys (we dont know when)

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Director Schaefer

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Do we know when this was released to the public in-universe?

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What’s their position? Director of what? Section II?

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 9:11 PM

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What do Sangheili eat? They Omnivorous

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:11 PM

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It just says that he's the one ordering the release of the information, if i understood it well.

My english isn't that good

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But still, it's the Section II that is releasing the info, so i guess that's it's director

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 9:12 PM

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No worries.

He’s Section II then

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Yeah

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:12 PM

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It could be anywhere post Halo 3 and pre Halo 5

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Schaffer? Could be Section 2. Could be something we dont know.

It could even be post created conflict really lol. ONI did survive it

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 9:13 PM

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What’s the tense? The tone of the piece?

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Inspiring new Heroes for the future. Something the musuem of humanity does

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So its really tied to no timeframe bar post Reach atm

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:15 PM

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mmm.

It says "For all we've endured over the past few decades the Covenant War was only the beginning of foray into meeting the rest of our neighbors in this galaxy"

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I smell teasers

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Also, putting the release date of Reach in the name of the first archives was a nice touch

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Has to be post created

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Several decades post HCW I think, post created even.

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Well its a mystery ATM. This "could" be the whole decomissioning of Noble Team that we know that happens at somepoint for a Statue of them to be made at New Alexandria post-July 7 2589.

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 9:21 PM

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They didn’t use their Spartan Tags.

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That’s noteworthy I think

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Atm we only have a range of them releasing Noble 6s helmet replica (not named of course) at Outpost Discovery between 2553-2558.

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Either it was done to make them more palatable to the public, using their names instead of numbers, or their Spartan tags (and this companies), are still classified.

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I think it’s a bit of both tbh

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:23 PM

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This is the first archive, right?

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Well by February 2558. Thorne didnt know about the SIIIs in great detail. Just that they were present on Reach. This obviously changes by October where that knowledge was expanded to stuff in the Spartan Field Manual Thorne and Grant modified for the New SIV.

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Will they be doing them for each Halo game in the MCC, and release them in time with the other games on MCC PC?

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:25 PM

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So we could expect one for each game.

Feb for H2 and ODST
Mar for H3
Apr For H4
May for H5

June for... Infinite?

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 9:25 PM

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^ They may have one for Halo 5

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Could go into detail about how and why Osiris were formed

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I think they might release close to each respective game

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You missed halo CEA

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Right... so nothing i said makes sense.

Like always!

inner basin Jan 21, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Well I can’t guarantee what you said about the months being correct, and the fact that you missed CEA, but other than that, you may not be wrong. We just don’t know if 343 WILL continue doing this for fact for every other game

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 9:54 PM

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I dont think Infinite will be June

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More like Nov or December

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With their new Xbox release

proper tangle Jan 21, 2020, 9:55 PM

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When the scarlet releases

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I was talking about a teaser for the E3

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 9:57 PM

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I mean how many teasers are they gonna make.

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This would be their 3rd

safe siren Jan 21, 2020, 9:58 PM

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A teaser for what they will reveal at the E3

stoic hamlet Jan 21, 2020, 10:19 PM

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A teaser for the teaser to reveal the teaser’s teaser

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Ha

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Looks like I have missed quite a bit

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I do wonder what they will reveal for infinite

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Playable elites

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Pls

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Even if it’s a mini story DLC or something

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Story DLC would be awesome though

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Been waiting on that since 2012

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Btw anyone else find it interesting that the hierarch from The Duel was actually willing to talk to Fal rather then outright brand him a heretic? Even after outright denying the great journey, he was allowed to leave high charity

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Oh hey @fair hazel "The Covenant War was only the beginning of our foray into meeting the rest of our neighbours in this Galaxy." 👀

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Is that line implying what I think its implying.

fair hazel Jan 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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More aliens.

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At worst it implies probably fringe or prometheans

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Where's that from

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoN2mhQTdZs

YouTube

HALO

ONI Archive – Noble Endeavors | Halo: Reach

The heroic defense of Reach is replete with stories of sacrifice and valor. Some of the most notable tales surround the Spartans of Noble Team, a battle-hardened squad of Spartan super-soldiers whose desperate efforts at Reach eventually helped turn the tide of the entire Cov...

▶ Play video

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

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ET in halo confirmed

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

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roswell greys confirmed

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seriously it probably just mean the covie fringe or promethean constructs

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nothing more

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also the flood

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Interesting I guess? Watch it be aliens who worship the flood

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:22 PM

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covie cult did that once

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Indeed

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:23 PM

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beebni

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:23 PM

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i imagine some infected AH's did that too

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Though guessing they gone now

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Yeah

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Infected AH? The book seemed to imply they acted as wild beasts

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:23 PM

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On,y time will tell

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Just stuffing non infected together to make proto graveminds

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But oh well

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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primordium tells us off infected gathering uninfected an force feeding them and then infecting them

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Ah ok

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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it comes off as cult like behaviour

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the way its described

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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WAIT, in halo is the Bible all a reference to the forerunners? Like the ark, the great flood etc

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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i can imagine some insane humans worshipping the flood

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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I think there was

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Bungie's story was allegorical i think

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:26 PM

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It would be interesting to tie in the biblical references into actual lore

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Precursors - God, Forerunners - angels, Antediluvian humans, flood - great flood, humanity, post-flood humanity/god's chosen people

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covenant - demons who seek to take humanity's inheritance

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gravemind - satan

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:27 PM

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The ark- Noah’s ark

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:27 PM

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prophet of truth - antichrist, beast of the sea

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yeah

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that's halo 1 - 3 in a nutshell

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Yep

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Chips Dubbo. God

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Lol

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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the bibilial references cant really tie in outside of forerunner translation software using idioms and terms from human culture

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Chips dunno is the Holy Spirit

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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There were multiple ways to view it from a bible sense

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I think anything

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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cos we know great flood as bible depicts it didnt happen etc

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Can be viewed as biblical

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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not literally at least it can tie in

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Almost every huge franchise rips from the Bible

jolly furnace Jan 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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metaphorically yes

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Yep

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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The bible is just stories so yeah

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Literally anything can be translated to games

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I don’t understand?

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Dont understand what

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:31 PM

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So. Something that is super intelligent, powerful can be tributed to a god.

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Anything that is bad , or does harm

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Can be devilish or a satin

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Basically general terms can be anything

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So no matter what creators make

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It will get referred to something

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Literally anything can be translated to games

That^ is what I don’t get

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Ooooh wait, nvm

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:33 PM

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All good settling

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:33 PM

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I thought he meant any game can be translated into a show, movie etc not that the Bible can be translated into any game

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Obviously there ARE games that do take biblical events or concepts, for ex: Darksiders.. do I think every game is biblical referenced? No.

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Not saying you said that anyway.

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:35 PM

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No not every game

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Like LEGO st4r wars and such

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Wait nvm, that’s biblical

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Exact—-...

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Hm

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Shot 😂

hasty locust Jan 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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ROBLOX, no bible in ROBLOX, never played it but I’ve seen the memes and it doesn’t look like there’s anything holy about it

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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See literally anything can and cant be referenced.

terse lava Jan 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Well kid games would lack that

astral dust Jan 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I hope so