That's what I'm an trying to figure out
#lore-and-universe
terse lava
astral dust
San'Shyuum are rude.
terse lava
It implies humans, yet wrong hierarchs
astral dust
San'Shyuum and Jirehrlalale ..brutes I could do without.
Except Tem... that thing can stay.
gilded mason
he ded tho
astral dust
Well listen I haven’t read everything
gilded mason
lol
terse lava
Good going ostral
gilded mason
😋
astral dust
Ost gives false heights and spoils characters
gilded mason
Spoiler:
||Can ya blame me for assumin' since he is introduced and dies in the same book?|| 😏
astral dust
Can’t trick me into clicking that
gilded mason
It's why I put it in a spoiler
terse lava
Not really a trick
astral dust
You what also isn’t a trick. Killing Covy
terse lava
Hm
astral dust
Zing bam bop
terse lava
Wonder how popular that joke would be on harvest
astral dust
Ahh more spoilers
terse lava
Huh?
astral dust
Unreal you alligators are all the same
terse lava
What are you talking about?
versed helm
||I wonder What the first human colonies were||
astral dust
Alligators and crocs
terse lava
No I met what spoilers
gilded mason
@versed helm
Probably Moon and Mars
versed helm
Ofcourse but outside of the solar system
gilded mason
lol
terse lava
Or reach ig you want outside sol
astral dust
Well you said “Wonder how popular that joke would be on harvest” so I assume at Harvest human population got dissolved.
gilded mason
Have you read Fall of Reach, Kastor?
terse lava
I...uh....that's
versed helm
Poor eel looking whales
astral dust
I’m reading FoR atm
gilded mason
How far in are you?
astral dust
Chapter 3
gilded mason
Ah
terse lava
||wasn't harvest's fate known even outside of that book??||
astral dust
You guys sure you don’t work for ONI?
gilded mason
||I forget, but it can be heavily inferred.||
astral dust
These guys. Mr.FunnyBoy over here doesn’t know the secret knock.
terse lava
||feels like that's lore 101|| @gilded mason
versed helm
||im pretty sure harvest was stated to be the first Colony to be invaded by the covies in outside media||
gilded mason
||Indeedy||
terse lava
Weird.....
astral dust
|| I smell treachery||
versed helm
||treachery smells like bad oysters||
terse lava
No what you smell is wet brute pelts
versed helm
👀
astral dust
Oh yeah you look like Far Cry
versed helm
💔
terse lava
And reach shows the covenant integrated mordor at some point
astral dust
Brutes start with B. Bear
terse lava
Or the gears of war earth
terse lava
Pity the vessel was such a waste
astral dust
Huge Covenant flagship just hanging over reach
versed helm
Isnt the voice of marcus the voice of atriox?
terse lava
No clue
versed helm
||We must investigate||
versed helm
And Jake The Dog
astral dust
Liam O’Brien is one of my favorites, same with Blue Team’s Fred aka Travis Willingham. Ike as Locke was really good
versed helm
I like Nathan Fillion
versed helm
He's G U C C I
terse lava
Rather random, but has anyone noticed that sangheili no longer wear gloves anymore?
gilded mason
They've gotten over their fear of germs
gilded mason
cursed
astral dust
H2 was great. Could actually play as Cov. I do like Sangheili models from Reach better though
terse lava
Halo 1, 2, and 3
gilded mason
Reach elites look like they got stung by a bee.
versed helm
My favorite model is the H2 and H2A models
astral dust
You look like an oster. @gilded mason
versed helm
Reach Elites look buff
terse lava
Yea... not greatly fond of reach ones
versed helm
Like they've been working out
gilded mason
@astral dust
Thank ya.
versed helm
On them covie gyms
astral dust
Well I’m a Zealot. And Reach Zealots are amazing to me.
terse lava
...he just has it out for you @gilded mason
gilded mason
For me, it's CE > H2A >= H2 > H3 > all the rest
astral dust
Odst
terse lava
Humans bench press metal, sangheili bench press brutes
astral dust
Brute bench press Sangheili
terse lava
Hm tough call
versed helm
The abominations from hesduros are at the very last
astral dust
Brute smell bad so they are bad
terse lava
Halo 1 were nimble yet dated
gilded mason
If only CEA actually gave a higher fidelity CE look instead of straight up porting Reach models.
versed helm
Imagine H2A with reach models
terse lava
H2 kept them for the most part and improved graphics, 3 got weird, reach cranked that up more
versed helm
👀
terse lava
Agreed ostral
gilded mason
Imagine H2A with reach models
gross
astral dust
H5 was good.. until Jul became a cutscene grunt
versed helm
Imagine What the arbiter would look like 👀
gilded mason
Yeah, that scene was when I knew I wouldn't like H5.
astral dust
I like H5 models just story bad
terse lava
You liked the h5 models???
astral dust
Yes
gilded mason
H4/5 Elite models do not lend themselves well to the "ally" role.
terse lava
Take care, what you say is heresy
astral dust
Telling me Jul looked bad?
gilded mason
Yes.
astral dust
You nar nar?
versed helm
They look like clumsy creatures you get to kill
terse lava
Like drunks at a bar
gilded mason
They look overly monstrous and aren't exactly able to emote. H2A models, as seen in the cutscenes, could convey quite a few expressions.
versed helm
They dont even look like they would follow a code of honor
Idk if they even have honor
astral dust
Everyone just loves to roast newer games.. Infinite comes out.. “terrible story, no imagination, bad models. I want H2 back..”
gilded mason
I mostly agree.
versed helm
An official reminder that if you're the kind of person who agonizes over Jul getting clapped at the start of H5 because he was a character with such great potential, you're not allowed to make out like K5 is some kind of atrocity.
That is all.
gilded mason
😏
versed helm
Everything good about that character came from K5.
In-game, as Ostral said, he just conveyed no emotion except generic hulking angriness and if you only know him from H4 you can't possibly know the best things about his character.
terse lava
Cant argue that
astral dust
No
versed helm
Instead of locky Boy killing him
But I think there's some kind of huge misconception here that Arbiter and Jul are archrivals or something
astral dust
Blue Team soundtrack is great. End of story.
terse lava
Not as great as high charity's theme
versed helm
They're barely even acquainted.
versed helm
And as true politicians they must fight each other to come out on top and rule the system
Jul and Thel lead opposing armies but they're not really connected as characters.
Having Thel kill Jul is just ending a character's life in the most predictable manner possible.
terse lava
Have not seen it @astral dust
gilded mason
One of the few things I liked in Escalation was the growing connection between Halsey and Jul.
astral dust
Definitely recommend it
versed helm
There is more meaning in using Jul to show that Osiris are a force to be reckoned with than just that simple, unearned moment where a dude kills another dude who he didn't really know or hate personally.
terse lava
Was interesting
versed helm
That is, if you're gonna just freak out because some morons thought Halo 4 was too big brain for them and dismantle your entire plotline.
Which you shouldn't do.
gilded mason
So like the Didact killing Black Team? 😏
versed helm
I dont think Jul is even supposed to be a Hesduros Sangheili is he?
@gilded mason I mean, Black Team are... worse Grey Team. At least it's a feat under the Didact's belt to show that he's not a sucker.
terse lava
Tha look also belonged to those on sangheilios
gilded mason
Yeah, like Gek
versed helm
Alot of the SOS shouldnt be Hesduros Sangheili from What I know, since im pretty sure the Hesduros Sangheili were only loyal to Jul.
So what happened to all of the animals in the Uplift Nature Reserve?
terse lava
Dont agree looter. Hes THE forerunner military leader. Taking on a group of primitives was hardly an impressive showing
@versed helmkilled, eaten, glassed
versed helm
That sucks
gilded mason
@versed helm
The H4/5 look isn't the "Hesduros look"
versed helm
I'd say he needed some credibility after his spectacular defeat in H4, @terse lava.
Actually, well, he didn't need it because he was literally about to get written out
But if he wasn't about to get written out
terse lava
Had he needed it, show something bettet
versed helm
It would've been a good idea to establish that he doesn't usually get punked by SIIs in combat.
So how many civilians managed to flee New Mombasa?
Really? That isnt the Hesduros look?
And Black Team are, in my eyes, beyond disposable. Maybe this is personal irritation but I mean
Bloodlines is just nonsense through-and-through
They have a decent Evolutions story
But they're nobody's favourite team
gilded mason
Even during Halo 4, we have known Elites from Sanghelios with that look
versed helm
Like I said, worse Grey team.
terse lava
Somehow that just felt cold
versed helm
I always thought it was just an artistic choice to give them that look though.
Yeah, it was an artistic choice.
And how that choice is handled is the question.
terse lava
As ever
versed helm
It's either a visual retcon, or it's a canonical variant.
Tbh,i forgot that Black Team even existed
In Halo, EVERYTHING is a canonical variant
There can be no retcons
It's freaking maddening sometimes
gilded mason
Indeed
terse lava
@versed helmwhat about humans being forerunners 😋
versed helm
Y'know
I thought the design is from the Hesduros Sangheili and the reason why the elites in the SOS and arby had that look was purely an artistic choice.
I'm pretty sure Bungo themselves were trying to leave it ambiguous
At the very least, they'd decided against it by Halo 3
You can't call it a retcon if it was never confirmed
gilded mason
I thought the design is from the Hesduros Sangheili
That is indeed not the case.
terse lava
I just love how they jumped back-and-forth between the idea and never set it in concrete properly
versed helm
Then where do those ugly boys come from?
terse lava
Then again bungee was not the best group for story telling
versed helm
Honestly
Bungie's storytelling is pretty underrated
Actually, I'm gonna say it
People who're a little irritated by complaints against 343 like to make out as if they're different but equal by spouting that notion
But I've been playing a lot of Reach, CE 2 and 3 recently
And I can tell you that the difference is that Bungie was just capable of avoiding mistakes that 343 dived right into
Halo 4 is a stellar narrative... if you've read the EU thoroughly.
Halo 5 was an absolute and total overreaction to Halo 4's criticism.
terse lava
Yeah good point I misspoke I was thinking of world building Not storytelling
versed helm
Every Halo game Bungie made has a narrative which works without any supplemental material and, actually, has a surprising amount of detail which is often told through ambient stuff in the level.
terse lava
They're not the best at world building, lore and what not
versed helm
Still making Cortana the main villain for H5 was stupid imho
Whenever you see something happen in a Bungie game in the environment around you, it's telling a story.
Basically every time.
terse lava
Wouldn't that only apply to Halo 3 and halo reach?
versed helm
The battle that occurs over Earth at the start of H2 springs to mind.
terse lava
I'm 1/2 tempted to agree and 1/2 to disagree, purely because as a background of endless human ships going up into the void
versed helm
Yeah, and the other battleclusters being far too close.
But that
Is just standard visual tomfoolery
If you just let it be what it is, the story of that battle is really cool and surprisingly well thought-out, if simplistic.
Of course it gives absolutely zero effs about what Nylund thought Halo space combat was supposed to be, but that's not a bad thing.
I agree
So if the H4/5 Sangheili arent from Hesduros then where do they come from? Im honestly curious now.
terse lava
Halo 2 anniversary did it much better
versed helm
Halo 2 Anniversary was literally a spicier version of the same thing
terse lava
Various colonies including the Homeworld
versed helm
I don't think
gilded mason
Well, many of them are from Hesduros, but the look isn't exclusive to them
versed helm
When I talk about H2 being good I mean H2 and H2A
So what would Mars's population be since it's one of the first human colonies?
terse lava
Well I will agree that Halo 2 does have some of those moments you come across the various dead Marines and covenant commandos during their sacred icon level
versed helm
@versed helm Think of it like this. The phenotype may have diverged on Hesduros, but then it re-integrated with the people on Sanghelios.
Just like people of different ethnic backgrounds moving around today.
Those boys are definitely uglier to their prettier cousins though
Calling any of 'em pretty is a bit of a stretch
gilded mason
hmmm
versed helm
But they ain't supposed to be
terse lava
Better looking than a brute at least
versed helm
And brutes are ugly
They're pretty in their own Right 😢
Right, Jcrrz.
If we're mature
We can understand that what's different to us shouldn't be immediately considered ugly
Which is why they shouldn't try and make Covenant aliens physically appeal to human sensibilities
terse lava
By that logic would the flood be considered beautiful
versed helm
At least it's not the Flood
gilded mason
But Ado, the Flood is always beautiful
terse lava
Are you a member of the governors of contrition?
versed helm
Wait,what are we talking about?
I mean I'm talking less about finding beauty, and more about not being obsessed over aliens looking appealing or not.
As in
Flood are beautiful in their own ways
What about the Yonhet?
Yonhets are human blob fish
terse lava
Haha
gilded mason
From a narrative standpoint, I imagine you want your audience to find some appeal in their design, if you want them to be allies/sympathetic.
terse lava
I wouldn't mind learning more about The covenant fringe as well
gilded mason
Also included: the Vulcan, Romulans, etc.
terse lava
Ha
versed helm
Klingons too
gilded mason
Ah yes
terse lava
Don't forget the Locust
versed helm
I can imagine that some of the alien designs from the canceled Halo MMO would be part of the fringe
gilded mason
Oh god
gilded mason
Eeeeeh
terse lava
Only of they had playable sangheili....and even then.....
versed helm
What planet do the Sharquoi even come from?
gilded mason
The art direction looked really bad.
terse lava
@gilded masonyou mean you didnt like the Atlantis forerunner?
gilded mason
lol
versed helm
Time constraints I guess idk, might of been because ensemble was shuting Down.
If it was them working on the MMO I dont remember
terse lava
I hate that filter
gilded mason
It'll be a month to the day since the movie came out on the 20th.
I really hope the filter will be gone by then
versed helm
They really need to get rid of it
So the planet Netherop,what is everyone's thoughts on it?
And agreed
gilded mason
Very mysterious
terse lava
Very hot very mysterious
gilded mason
Maybe Nizat and the human lady will uncover its secrets
versed helm
What race lived on that planet?
terse lava
Just some race lost to the eons of time
versed helm
Then there's the unknown bipeds on the Planet of Blue and Red
Idk why 087s name is even filtered
gilded mason
@versed helm
Because of an actress' real life name
versed helm
Is it possible that the Sangheili wiped them out?
gilded mason
And they've done it for a lot of their real-life names
terse lava
@versed helmand the aliens who attacked creck
No I think broken circle said the aliens died out long before the war started
versed helm
Ah, yes the lady from the 8th episode.
gilded mason
Yeah
versed helm
What race attacked Crecka though?
terse lava
No one knows except they had an uncivilized tongue
Just some other race saved by the For runners
versed helm
Maybe they were the same race that crash landed on Alpha Halo 40k years ago
terse lava
Doubtful simply due to the fact that they had the ability for interstellar travel 40000 years before everyone else
Well 37000 to be technical
versed helm
I like to think the race from that terminal is a future intergalactic invader, even if its very un realistic to ever occure, I just love the idea of intergalactic invaders.
Hell,we hardly know about the state of the galaxy after the Great Purification and prior to the War of Beginnings
terse lava
We only know that some races that were returned to their homeworlds went extinct
While others survive but did not become part of the covenant
versed helm
Maybe prior to their encounter and subsequent war with the San'Shyuum,the Sangheili might've colonized planets that were already inhabited by other races and probably wiped them out or enslaved them
terse lava
Although I believe those aliens were hinted at being a rather low tier
versed helm
Maybe the Covenant were waging war against other interstellar empires while they were fighting humanity
terse lava
That's something I have theorized on for years
versed helm
Imagine a unified Halo galaxy against an intergalactic species
I honestly love the idea
terse lava
That's pretty much just a rip off of Mass effect
hybrid jungle
Hello everyone
terse lava
Greeting
versed helm
So what other races did the Covenant subjugate besides the ones we see in the games?
gilded mason
We don't exactly know yet
terse lava
Those in the covenant Fringe
gilded mason
Yeah
terse lava
To be honest we could say they have subjugated almost every race in the Galaxy or only a relative few
Just like we could say their population could be hundreds of billions or tens of billions
Personally I'm on the side of hundreds of billions
gilded mason
Yeah
terse lava
Humanity got 23 or so billion in 500 years. The covenant existed for 3400 years
In the new lore it's implied no
gilded mason
Did the Covenant control territories outside of the Orion Arm?```
Maybe some outpostsWell yeah outposts maybe
hybrid jungle
I don't like the new lore.
gilded mason
I'm glad that Warfleet dialed back the span of the Covenant/human sphere
terse lava
Really?
gilded mason
Talking to me, or HG?
terse lava
You
gilded mason
Ah. Yeah. Before Warfleet came out, it was said that the Covenant controlled the whole galaxy
terse lava
Well good majority of the Galaxy
gilded mason
And that is just...way too much
versed helm
And the Forerunner ecumene was like 3mil planets
gilded mason
The galaxy is a big place
terse lava
I suppose realistically it does seem unbelievable
gilded mason
And it'd feel just a bit too small if the Covenant already controlled most of it
Having everything (for the most part) take place in the Orion Arm is perfect
versed helm
Yeah,but it makes you wonder,what is going on in the rest of the galaxy
gilded mason
Exactly. We got mystery now.
terse lava
Touche never Bother to thinking of it that way
gilded mason
A great unknown
terse lava
Yet we aren't really told much to even speculate on it
gilded mason
Maybe one day. Warfleet gave some tidbits
hybrid jungle
How often do you guys play halo multiplayer?
terse lava
Although the idea of covenant outposts in other arms of the Galaxy does make sense, seen as oblivion did say they the lost Covenant fleet ended up in the center of the Galaxy
hybrid jungle
I'm just new here)
terse lava
Well we Welcome you
hybrid jungle
thanks
terse lava
Have any covenant/sangheili questions, Ostral or myself could likly answer them
gilded mason
👋
hybrid jungle
Those new races should be perfect like covenant races.
versed helm
How do Sangheili eat is the ultimate question
gilded mason
Carefully
terse lava
That's a trade secret
hybrid jungle
ahahaha
gilded mason
||Neural physics||
versed helm
They probably turn their food into some soup like pulp
terse lava
@gilded mason👍
terse lava
Yes they have a tongue
gilded mason
Yup
versed helm
Eww
terse lava
You also have a skeleton inside you
gilded mason
spoopy
versed helm
But I dont have four mandibles with a small cavity underneath
terse lava
Well technically if you think about it
gilded mason
Well, you should get on that
terse lava
You have a single hole with a small cavity underneath
gilded mason
Find an unethical surgeon
versed helm
But that cavity isnt exposed though
terse lava
You are a badd influence @gilded mason
versed helm
To the outside
gilded mason
lol
terse lava
It is every time you open your mouth
versed helm
But briefly 😏
terse lava
Doesn't matter
versed helm
It does
gilded mason
Maybe they have a flap that fully seals the throat whenever they want
gilded mason
ah yes
terse lava
A better question is can the hunters be a middle finger
versed helm
Lekgolo worms could form a Middle finger
terse lava
I wonder if the grunts on high charity are forced to practice cannibalism
7 billion of the little guys in such a small area
Well small relatively
gilded mason
Assembly forges can probably take care of their dietary needs
terse lava
Probably
versed helm
Those boys only need nipple
versed helm
Free Guta Cheese to everyone
terse lava
No we're not starting that again
versed helm
With a side of human cheese
terse lava
No
terse lava
Some the flood concept art looks scary
cinder relic
Imagine what Master Cheif concept art looks like to the covenant
versed helm
Their reaction: 👁️ 👃 👁️
hybrid jungle
hybrid jungle
I think this version is better😀
versed helm
It definitely looks scarier and more like a demon
hybrid jungle
I like it
versed helm
Which i believe the Guta was named after a demon in hungarian culture but I might be mistaken
So it definitely looked more fiting
versed helm
Neither do I lol, I think I read that on Halo pedia.
astral dust
What year does Halo Reach Start in?
gilded mason
2552
astral dust
Okay, thank you
hybrid jungle
Why doesn't 343 indust want to make a game about Harvest?
terse lava
Well the plots been fone in a book already
hybrid jungle
But I think it will be great
versed helm
The first Halo Wars does have a mission on Harvest if that helps
terse lava
It would just revolve around Johnson and his militia fighting Some jackals and brutes
That's true
versed helm
A Johnson spin off would be a dream come true
hybrid jungle
Halo wars has but I want a shooter game
terse lava
I could live With out a Johnson based game
terse lava
Why
versed helm
||Jokes||
terse lava
Ok
cinder relic
versed helm
If there is a spin off halo game set on Harvest it could either be based around Johnson or be like reach in a sense
cinder relic
How so?
versed helm
Hard to explain
hybrid jungle
why are there so few people on this server?
timid bloom
idk
hybrid jungle
discord server
versed helm
It is bigger than I remember
cinder relic
Holy moly it be luigi
@timid bloom hey can u ask Sakuria to put Master Chef in smash?
versed helm
Gordon Ramsay in smash
cinder relic
Oofers
timid bloom
anyways
I haven't been on this server in ages
Anyone else have the halo mythos book
It's huge
timid bloom
hybrid jungle
Bye, I have to go to University.
cinder relic
UNSC Uni
sharp adder
?
astral dust
In the Halo 4 intro, Dr. Halsey is getting interviewed by a guy, who is he?
carmine sleet
Unknown
gaunt oakBOT
inner basin
I’d imagine he’s from ONI, even though Halsey kinda denies that. If we trust her on that, maybe someone from the Spartan Branch? Trying to find out why the Chief was so efficient at fighting maybe?
true shadow
i wonder if that'll ever be explained
jolly furnace
I think he's ONI or a Spartan 4 guy or someone involved in that program
I dont think it will ever be revealed
carmine sleet
I don't think they need to reveal who they really are honestly
jolly furnace
no
i want to know
but i dont expect it
i think 343i said as much that they wont
terse lava
Outside of the world thel had those peace talks in, do we know how effective covenant terraforming could be?
terse lava
Well we l ow humans "terraformed" by adding a new crust on top of the surface of a useful colony
astral dust
Could you imagine if 343 made RedvsBlue canon? 😂
I mean I don’t think it would affect the other lore either so it could work
feral perch
It would affect the canon
carmine sleet
Red Vs Blue wouldn't fit into the canon. There's way too many differences between the two universes for it to work
versed helm
Like the whole time travel thing...
Before that it could've but now I just dont see it
carmine sleet
It still wouldn't fit with the stuff before Season 16. Tucker ends up giving birth to an Elite, which makes no sense as Elites are born from eggs, not a womb
versed helm
True, but every thing else or atleast a portion of rvb could've fit.
carmine sleet
At that point it's kinda like you're cherry picking what could and couldn't fit in, Jcrrz
versed helm
Kinda What im thinking, some could fit some couldnt.
carmine sleet
Then that means RvB can't fit into Halo's canon, as you are cutting out parts of RvB that you don't see as fitting in
versed helm
Ehh
I guess
I still believe it was better until the gods and time travel bit came out
Atleast it had a chance
carmine sleet
It really didn't have a chance
versed helm
Either way rvb is its own universe, and the halo Story in that universe is kind of a thing, Master Chief is mentioned and so are the covies, so in a sense it does, just not to the main universe.
But Im not really going to argue about that bit
Since it only confirms it is its own thing
carmine sleet
Chief is only mentioned in a throwaway line in episode 1 of RvB
versed helm
Yeah, and covies by Carolina
In one of the new seasons I believe
Even prior to that I think they were mentioned
Either way, RVB is its own universe
Its own lore
Etc
feral perch
So have either of you read Oblivion?
versed helm
Wasnt that a book about Master Chief
feral perch
Yes
carmine sleet
I'm sat about a meter away from my copy, waiting before getting stuck into it as I like having time to spend reading novels
versed helm
Just get the audio version, I like to listen to stories while playing.
terse lava
Oblivion was a great book
carmine sleet
I prefer reading a novel instead of listening to one
terse lava
True
versed helm
All of us have a preference nothing wrong with that
feral perch
Same!
The Covenant bits were the best, so much lore packed into them
so many mouth-watering details
gilded mason
Indeed
versed helm
It is a Master Chief Story so it shouldnt be too surprising if the book focuses on him
gilded mason
Nizat's story had a lot more personal stakes in it
gilded mason
lol
terse lava
Nizat' story had far more impact and development
gilded mason
Ye
terse lava
Kinda.like thel in halo 2
feral perch
I would have enjoyed it a lot more if instead of Blue Team, we followed Green or Gold, or a version of Red Team.
versed helm
Has the Halo EU surpassed the space wizard legends universe in amount of content?
gilded mason
Definitely not
feral perch
It's more consistent, though.
astral dust
Noble Team or riot
carmine sleet
If we're going off of canon only for Space Wizards, then I believe Halo has them beat. But off of the old EU for that other franchise, Halo is like a penny next to a house
versed helm
One day it shall 👀
feral perch
I would sacrifice Noble Team in a second if it meant that The Fall of Reach wasn't contradicted anymore.
deep pewter
I would too, there’s no thought necessary in that situation
terse lava
Can We sacrifice chief and the Rest of the Spartans as well?
feral perch
wut
versed helm
Id rather sacrifice Arby and the SOS
gilded mason
One day your phone will let you type unhindered. One day.
terse lava
One day indeed
carmine sleet
Why would you sacrifice the SOS? They're cool with us humans
gilded mason
Now that's just blasphemous
deep pewter
A hinge head is a hinge head
versed helm
ONI was messing them up before the created arch
Without them even knowing
Poor boys
carmine sleet
Ok, but that's not a reason to get rid of the SOS
feral perch
I'd get rid of the Created. 😛
terse lava
How about we get rid of the brutes
astral dust
^
astral dust
False Height info
versed helm
Im not saying we should, i was messing around with the whole "sacrifice chief and the rest of the spartans" bit.
deep pewter
I want to kill more prophets
gilded mason
Rude
versed helm
Im not actually serious with getting rid of them lmao
astral dust
I want more team based games. ODST/Reach etc.,
carmine sleet
There's not all that many left, Nathan, are you sure you want to potentially wipe out their entire species?
gilded mason
"The only good Yonhet is a dead Yonhet."
versed helm
#TheOnlyGoodYonhetIsADeadYonhet
terse lava
The only good flood is a atomized flood, because not even death makes them good
versed helm
The only good flood is dog food flood until it evolves and becomes a parisitic infestitation
terse lava
If they are already flood, that's a point against them
terse lava
Eh
terse lava
Eh
carmine sleet
Manipulates gravity
terse lava
Yep, has gravity generators on it
jolly furnace
Red vs Blue has deities in it?
versed helm
With the 2 new seasons yeah
jolly furnace
Where they mythological ones or made up entirely?
safe siren
Should be Made up, but with all the gods i'm not sure
astral dust
What is bone grafting? I know Spartans receive it, is it like Wolverine type deal where they inject metal serum(?) into the skeletal system?
Or do they put metal parts into the skeleton.
safe siren
You are talking about the Carbide Ceramic Ossification?
safe siren
Then "The candidate's bones are exposed via surgery or procedurally sequential surgeries. An advanced carbide ceramic material is grafted onto the skeletal structure to begin assimilation into the upper layers of the each individual bone. This results in the bones being virtually unbreakable. The coverage of this procedure does not exceed 3% total bone mass due to significant white blood cell necrosis: effectively, the carbide ceramic can only comprise a thin outer "shell" bonded to each bone without interfering with bone functionality as organs.[6]"
safe siren
Broken bone i don't know, but surely someone had a shoulder or two displaced
astral dust
Also does John-117 ever change his armor in the books? Or is it more of the devs who are giving him some new styles?
safe siren
Yes, he did wear different armors
safe siren
Since Book and Games share the canon, yes, they usually wear the most upgraded one, or the most helpful to their mission
astral dust
Awesome! Thank you
carmine sleet
I recall Halsey saying either Fred or Will having a broken rib in First Strike and then dismissing it as fine
astral dust
In Halo 4 when you first met Lasky in the jungle outpost cutscene, and meet Spartan Palmer, her and Chief seem a little even in height.. after when the post game/cgi cutscene hits, where Chief takes off his armor he is like 4ft taller than her. Anyone know why that might be?
safe siren
Just a way to show the aura of misticity around him, or maybe just perspective, idk
umbral citrus
palmer does everything in 4’ heels and still manages to top performance charts what a madlass
deep pewter
To my knowledge that scene is artistic liberties in regards to height differences, much like the first cutscene showcasing Spartans making use of armor way before it was in use
Jorge honestly just looked fat
radiant sphinx
@astral dust If I recall correctly, Chief was considerably taller after receiving the Librarian’s blessing to survive the composer
carmine sleet
Chief's height wasn't changed by the Librarian
radiant sphinx
Just what I’ve heard before
Suppose it’s incorrect
Or just made him a beefy boo
Boi
carmine sleet
The reason why Chief and Palmer were similar heights during that cutscene, but then Chief was much taller during the end cutscene is simply due to resource management. For in game models, it would be easier to just reuse and edit models used for a Spartan than to create a 100% unique model for Chief that makes him taller
radiant sphinx
I would hope Mjolnir doesn’t chafe regardless
gilded mason
Naomi got to test out Mark VII. Does that count?
carmine sleet
It would make sense that they'd be modifying their own gear in the post war era, given that the UNSC would likely relax a little on armour regulations
terse lava
Well she did what she. Could I guess
astral dust
What armor did Noble use? Mark IV?
gilded mason
Mark V
astral dust
Thank you
Ahhh, I’ll remember that now. Easier to remember
Do ODST’s get respect from other parts of the UNSC? Such as Spartans? Or do Spartans get most of the praise?
topaz iron
I remember in Halo Legends, the typical UNSC soldiers were pretty geeked to see the ODST squad
Well, atleast one soldier
astral dust
I see now, cool beans. They are really cool to me. Side note I like your profile pic 👌
astral dust
True that.
light igloo
both got respect, tho there was some tension between the two
topaz iron
@astral dust thanks same to you
astral dust
This guy and his chips
light igloo
marines were front line troops, meanwhile, ODST were literally named 'Helljumpers'
astral dust
They are all cool. Let’s be real
topaz iron
Did johnson have any augmentations?
topaz iron
Not as good as augmenting children
versed helm
@jolly furnace made up gods, they're quite... Ridiculous tbh.
light igloo
unintentional side effect was it scrambling his neural structure which gave him his immunity to flood infection forms
he never was
jolly furnace
@versed helm i'll have to check it out then
versed helm
He was Never really inmune but his altered genes gave him enough time to get the infection form off of him.
jolly furnace
Johnson is resistant apparently
but not immune
bungie didnt like an immunity so wrote it out
versed helm
Yep
light igloo
just saying that he could not be infected by infection forms just cuz the way they spread the infection
he could still be taken out by spores apparently
astral dust
Remember when Johnson hugged an Elite and lived though a ship explosion. It’s not canon but still.
light igloo
while boren's syndrome was a coverup, his neural disorder was not
terse lava
Well we have had marines.being turned by simple cuts
versed helm
He could, his altered genes just gave him enough time to get the infection form off of him.
jolly furnace
johnson cant be infected by infectors. but spores could probably convert him if he inhaled them
light igloo
what they covered up was it being a 'syndrome' instead of side effect of secret project
astral dust
Always thought flood were like Alien’s Facehuggers
versed helm
Yes but at the time they werent dealing with those.
light igloo
as i said , spores could have taken him out
jolly furnace
the infectors are based on facehuggers
topaz iron
How do the infection forms actually infect someone?
versed helm
Thats the only similarity though
topaz iron
Do they like probe them or something lol
jolly furnace
tedrils latch onto the nervous system
topaz iron
Yikes
jolly furnace
inject flood supercells into the body
light igloo
the records stated that johnson's neurological issue was because of 'boren's syndrome', a made up disease, to cover up the fact that it was the side effects of (failed?)spartan 1 augmentation
jolly furnace
Flood conversion defys physics basically
topaz iron
That’s pretty morbid
terse lava
Or the flood doing it for them
gilded mason
That's what he said
light igloo
part of johnson's team ever since Harvest
gilded mason
jolly furnace
sorry
light igloo
lol, 'Leeroy'
jolly furnace
its implied forge was a spartan 1.1 in one of the novels
or at the author was going for that implcation
topaz iron
@jolly furnace I could see it
light igloo
depends on equipment, doesn't it?
jolly furnace
Now i want john and Arnie to team up
stoic hamlet
But anything else and there’s no way.
II or otherwise it’s just not possible.
III’s are the same as II’s (with Gammas being stronger)
Even buck naked a II or III is basically incomprehensible for humans to follow if they’re really trying.
astral dust
Don’t know if everyone knows this but Fails of the Week by Rooster Teeth are back.
terse lava
And yet we still lack Grim's canon Friday stuff
astral dust
Hah 😂
gilded mason
I miss Canon Fodder
terse lava
Me too my friend, me too
astral dust
I miss griffball
versed helm
I miss arby and the chief
stoic hamlet
I also miss canon fodder D:
astral dust
Best part of the new fails of week video they don’t even mentioned that it’s been 8 years since their last FoW video.. it’s great. Nostalgia hits me
terse lava
Or at least when they added new stuff to their little data base on waypoint
Vessels, races, factions
versed helm
Its the Halo Reinaissance boys, anythings possible.
terse lava
I will belive that when sangheili are playable properly again
astral dust
Is there a branch of Assassins in the UNSC?
terse lava
Head hunters
versed helm
Yeah the head hunters
terse lava
Or random oni agents
astral dust
ONI is like real life CIA correct?
stoic hamlet
CIA/FBI combined
gilded mason
More like GAG, heh.
astral dust
Heard enough out of this oyster
versed helm
I think ONI is a thing in real Life too but they arent like the Halo counter part
Oyster lol
gilded mason
I've got so many creatures assigned to me now. I feel so happy.
versed helm
Id be proud of that too.
stoic hamlet
Asymmetrical Action Group @astral dust
versed helm
Innie-stompers
astral dust
Ahh math team
stoic hamlet
Primarily non-Spartan but they added a few as the war went on
I have a theory that they’re led by/their founder is Captain Gibson, who we meet in Ghosts of Onyx and who is also part of Beta-5.
astral dust
What would be Uncoventional
gilded mason
Dance fight
stoic hamlet
The way they engage targets.
astral dust
Like chuck dynamite in their huts while they sleep?
stoic hamlet
Usually this means guerrilla fighting, ambushes, false-flag attacks, plainclothes operators.
versed helm
Alot of people like him, he is pretty cool.
versed helm
Chief, Johnson, Thel, Rtas, Buck, Jerome, Joshua, Fred, Jorge I could go on for a long time lol
versed helm
I mean it was technically truth that split it up
astral dust
True , Tartarus can suck an egg
versed helm
A Sangheili egg
astral dust
A Moa Milk Egg with high tax
versed helm
He can drink Guta milk and eat some Guta cheese
astral dust
He can lick the broadside of a pelican
versed helm
His weapon was pretty cool
versed helm
The fist of rukt was it? I dont remember
astral dust
Correct
versed helm
The voice acting in Halo has always been good as far as im aware
All the voice actors are G U C C I
astral dust
Exactly. Any Halo game is bound to have at least good Voice Acting
versed helm
Indeed
astral dust
Atriox also a good VA
Like his quotes too..
"I am not Tartarus or some fanatic. I am not Truth. I am not Regret. I am their remedy."
versed helm
I think his voice actor is John Dimaggio
astral dust
Correct
versed helm
Same voice as Marcus Phoenix and Jake The Dog
astral dust
I mean dude is good enough right there for me 🤣
I wish they’d bring Liam O’brien in
Voice of War from Darksiders and Illidan from WoW
versed helm
I want them to bring in Steve Blum
stoic hamlet
They did bring him in
astral dust
That guy is like Travis... he’s just in everything
stoic hamlet
He was Fred-104
stoic hamlet
Oh no wait, yeah
astral dust
You gotta calm down 🤣
versed helm
Steve Blums voice could fit that of a spartans though
stoic hamlet
He could fit an ODST as well
versed helm
He could be anything tbh 😂
astral dust
Do the brutes use Roman and Greek names? Tartarus, Atriox, Pavium etc.,
gilded mason
Seems so
terse lava
Kinda seems to be their theme
Ironic since bungie said they were the "barbarians of Rome"
astral dust
Ah ha
@gilded mason and @terse lava I need a top tier list of best Sangheili ever. Fighters, Leaders, Soldiers, Tacticians etc.,
terse lava
The shipmaster(the return)
gilded mason
Thel 'Lodamee
versed helm
I was about to say Xytan
gilded mason
Ayit 'Sevi
terse lava
Maybe Ussa?
gilded mason
Said him
terse lava
So you did
versed helm
Prophet of Regret for being the #1 Sangheiliboo
terse lava
Noga 'Putamee
gilded mason
What about Zo Resken?
terse lava
@versed helmthat would be zo
versed helm
I found Jul
gilded mason
lol filter
terse lava
"Wort"
gilded mason
And, of course, there's the greatest of them all: Orta 'Rakom. 😉
terse lava
Hm. Should Zuka be counted?
terse lava
He did the alpha base attack
terse lava
Fal 'Chavamee
gilded mason
That one Sangheili that made Helioskrill
gilded mason
Sesa did his best with the heretics, too
gilded mason
True
versed helm
The antimatter charges from H2 - I reckon the Covenant probably carry them around using antigrav
terse lava
Ok?
gilded mason
Would make sense
astral dust
I like Sangheili
terse lava
Likely more for stabbing them in the ground
astral dust
Only Brute I like is Atriox
terse lava
What's all this for anyway @astral dust
astral dust
A list
gilded mason
I like Sangheili
Gross. Sangheili are disgusting.
terse lava
HERESY
astral dust
Of enhanced research
terse lava
😋
astral dust
Gonna read up on all the great Sangheili
terse lava
"Enhanced"?
terse lava
Ah
astral dust
Only Sangheili I know we’re Arby and Jul
terse lava
I think Ripa might count too
astral dust
So i wanted a good list to read about
terse lava
He was a savage, but a good tactician apparantly
@gilded mason should we count thel's old zealot team?
astral dust
I haven’t played HW2 and I know Atriox is really strong. Any Sangheili that could take him on in a 1v1?
terse lava
Hm
gilded mason
@terse lava
I dunno, maybe
terse lava
Fal 'Chavamee, but our only showing of.him is soloing an entire army
May be real or a embellished retelling
Anything else covenant or sangheili related things you need? @astral dust
astral dust
Let me think... theres a lot
When did Brutes join and why?
Are Sangheili strong as brutes?
terse lava
2492
They joined due to a need of theological meaning
Unfortunately....jiralhanae are stronger
gilded mason
(On average)
terse lava
Yea
gilded mason
I mean, they were gonna join regardless.
gilded mason
I meant that the Covenant wasn’t going to take no for an answer
astral dust
Ahh
terse lava
Brutes were at a tech level of rediscovering rocketry and radio
So likely cities of some sort
astral dust
Okay
terse lava
Or ruins like fallout
astral dust
Gotcha
Why do most Sangheili names have a apostrophe and either a M or E in their name
gilded mason
The apostrophe is simply part of their more modern naming convention, and the ‘ee’ signifies that they’re part of the Covenant military
astral dust
Ahhh okay, cool . Never knew that
versed helm
It signifies their eternal triggered-ness
Thel Vadamee? More like Thel VadamREEEEEEE
astral dust
Oof.
gilded mason
Actually, it’s a subtle clue that they’re part-frog
astral dust
What armor mark are the Spartans in HW2 using?
versed helm
I see
In the campaign cutscenes, old-school Mark IV
In-game (which means, as they appeared after the events of the campaign, confusing I know) their armour is supposed to be overhauled by Isabel with GEN 2 components found among the wreckage of the research outpost.
Implying that there may have been some SIVs on the Ark who got killed.
hollow meadow
Is it just me or did Bungie draw inspiration for Sangheili names from Arabic ones?
terse lava
Thought the sangheili names were pretty much a mix of cultures when it came to names
hasty locust
All with apostrophes
terse lava
Yes, some sound English, Japanese, Russian, etc
terse lava
Brain fart, met english
hasty locust
Oh, ok
astral dust
Any Brutes that didn’t agree with the Prophets? did all of those join Atriox?
sharp adder
i think so
astral dust
I know brutes are classified as ursine meaning they are of bear origin, I always thought they were ape 🦧 like
versed helm
In H2 they look like bears
astral dust
True that
versed helm
In H3 they look like apes
versed helm
And on reach they look like hairless dogs
astral dust
Chemo Brutes
versed helm
HW2 brutes look pretty cool
astral dust
Im a Atriox fanboy but hey. Thats none of my business
Sangheili or Jiralhanae. Which are more religious
last anchor
That depends really on the group.
Same as with humans really.
You got peeps like the Banished who arne't at all, and then those like the Servants of the Abiding Truth.
terse lava
Also the zealots themselves, in the name
versed helm
I would say all-in-all
The brutes have a more fanatical track record per-capita in recent history
But the elites had thousands of years of solid faith under their belt
terse lava
Yep
versed helm
And they continue to fight a civil war on the pretences of their faith
Well I mean
Up till Halo 5 they were
I mean the civil war was actually about wiping out humans but that's like illuminati-level stuff
To the dudes on the ground it was about faith
terse lava
Although post war, appears only luro'a group is a sangheili group that belives in the great journey
versed helm
Fair
gilded mason
What a dweeb that Luro is
terse lava
Indeed
versed helm
Jul's lot was more about the divinity of the forerunners as a whole
While simultaneously condemning the prophets
terse lava
Not jul though
versed helm
That was Telcam's shtick anyway
Yeah nah Jul was the illuminati
He was playing the long game to take out humanity
Which is why it was such a shame that he died before that MASSIVE plot point could make its way into the games
But hey
Halo has a track record of massive plot points somehow just existing in the books
terse lava
Yep
versed helm
Glares ferociously at First Strike
terse lava
Heh