#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 277

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:15 AM

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From what I could tell, it was simply a joke told on Twitter directed at Frankie, and then several Halopedia people took it as gospel.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:18 AM

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thought so, on another topic, you think the covenant's fate would be different had xytan and his forces managed to wipe out the jiralhanae alpha packs?

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Yes, they had billions of elites

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:19 AM

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What’s the context there?

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 3:19 AM

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And xytan was an excellent startergist

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:20 AM

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@gilded mason towards me man?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Ye. I don’t remember much of Ghosts on Onyx.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:22 AM

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xytan had rallied as many sangheili as he could to one of their major fortress worlds. He planned on killing the jiralhanae alpha leaders who were arriving there within hours/days under the pretense the sangheili wished to surrender/do peace talks

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Not literally billions lol

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Just in case

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Indeed lol

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:23 AM

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he and most of his 200+ fleet were wiped out by a nova bomb being accidently activated before his plan could take place

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well...we are never told the population of the planet

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could have indeed been billions

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Well, even without that, the Covenant was still wiped out.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:23 AM

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well at that time, the Covenant still existed

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fractured, at that point, but not wholly shattered to bits yet

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think his ultimate goal, if I recall, was to recreate the Covenant, minus the san shyuum and jiralhanae

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Yea i always thought Xytan and his fleet surviving would have meant the end for Humanity

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Yeah, though I think at this point, all he knew was that Truth wanted to exterminate Elites in favor of Brutes

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He didn’t find out the greater context

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If he did get additional info, it might be possible that he changes his plans.

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Rtas' and Thel may have been able to sway him but from what we know of Xytan, I think not

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:27 AM

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maybe, could see him perhaps changing, somewhat in that regard. Though I think while he may change his mind on wiping out humanity, had he remade the Covenant he would have kept them at the level of the grunts

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he didn't seem to hold humans in high regard at all...odd seeing as how he never took part in the war as far as we know

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:29 AM

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He probably felt that if he was in charge of the war it would've been over far sooner

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And wanted to prove that point

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:30 AM

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Though if he found out humans were victims of Truth’s machinations just as Elites were, he might find it within him to grant mercy.

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It can be shown with Thel that even the very zealous can change their ways

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:31 AM

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true, but thel had reason to change

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Indeed, but Thel was still young

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:32 AM

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the great, sinless hierarchs were capable of being wrong

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:32 AM

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I feel that old, seasoned individuals can often be stuck in their ways

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:32 AM

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or at least, bring far from the noble and holy leaders he throught

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Not that Thel wasn't seasoned, just significantly less so than Xytan

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:33 AM

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indeed, and now seeing that a "normal" fleetmaster can be 200(100 sangheili) years old, imagine how xytan would be, the only known imperial admiral

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Eh, I find it possible Xytan might also be given impetus for growth if he found out the truth of things.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:33 AM

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true

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but from what we have seen he does seem...

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stuck in the old ways I guess?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:35 AM

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How old did the book say Xytan was, anyway?

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 3:35 AM

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I doubt Thel would have swayed him tbh

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:35 AM

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So you say lol

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:35 AM

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the book never gave his age

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we have no clue how old he was

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If i had to guess....perhaps 300?

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:36 AM

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Yea I feel like Xytan saw his race threatened and decided he was the one to take action

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:36 AM

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For all we know, he could have been a similar age to Thel

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:36 AM

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surley he had to be younger

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then again...

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 3:36 AM

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I’d argue Thel didn’t really have much to his name until post war. Even then he was barely able to keep some of the others placated.

It would surprise me if Xytan adopted a “join or die” policy.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:36 AM

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I guess we don't know who is older, nizat or xytan

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 3:37 AM

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Wouldn’t he have been older than Thel?

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:37 AM

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Thel was stated to be notable for being one of the youngest to achieve [x rank] no?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:37 AM

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he would have to be, thel was a "young" fleetmaster in his mid-late 40s

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:37 AM

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Ah, that is true

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:37 AM

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so it would just boil down to, who is older, nizat or xytan?

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 3:38 AM

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I’d say Xytan, but I’m really just guessing

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It’s possible he took the place of Nizat, maybe.

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Hm. Wonder if Grim might be willing to answer that? After all, Xytan’s dead, so it shouldn’t be much trouble?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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I would assume too, but for all we know, nizat could have mentored xytan, who went further then his mentor did

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Should...should we try @ him?

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Not here

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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didn't think do

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so

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Nah, maybe I’ll go on Twitter

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Keep us informed!

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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do it ostral

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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👍

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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for the Covenant and the journey!

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 AM

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After I finish dinner

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:40 AM

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hm, just realized, we have never found out what happaned to the kthamee bloodline

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 3:41 AM

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The hopes of all the Covenant rest on your shoulders, Chieftain

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:42 AM

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does he look like a fur ball? 😛

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though, this is why we need the canon fodder friday back, to answer questions like this

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:48 AM

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All right, asked him.

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Though my previous question to him regarding Kig-Yar tails, based on Halo 4 concept art, went unanswered. 😥

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:50 AM

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😦

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what was the question on the kig-yar tails?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:51 AM

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https://twitter.com/OrtaRakom/status/1209668125878185984

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:52 AM

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huh...nothing happened

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-_-

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Hm?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:53 AM

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error or something, cant view it

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Huh. Well that's odd

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Yo, Grim. I noticed that the Ibie'shan Kig-Yar have tails in concept art. Does this carry over into the games/other media? And if so, do the other Kig-Yar subspecies have tails as well?```

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And I included the concept art in the post

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 3:55 AM

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ah

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maybe a hold over? they are the more ancient of kig-yar

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or just their version of a tail bone

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although, I would have found it amusing had it been a way for 343 to pay a sort of "homage" to the idea of sangheili having tails in concept art

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btw, did you simply ask him which sangheili was older? or was it something more detailed?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Hey Grim, got a small question I was hoping you might be able to answer. At the time of Xytan's death, was he younger or older than Nizat was during Halo: Oblivion?```

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:05 AM

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that's pretty good

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just watch, xytan ends up being a childling at the time of fal's heresy

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 4:06 AM

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lol

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:07 AM

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think mercy was...born a couple hundred years after the fal heresy?

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think 2342?

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so would be interesting if xytan was older then even him

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then again...maybe not

keen canopy Dec 31, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Aren't there remarks about an old Sangheili in Shadow of Intent?

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"I hope I'm in as good condition as him when I'm that age" or something, I'm not sure if his actual age is mentioned though

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:34 AM

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yes, a sangheili elder, was killed at the age of 90 or so

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:44 AM

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What is the average lifespan of sangheilli?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:44 AM

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at least 200 human years, which translates to 100 sangheili years

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then again, said character, fleetmaster Nizat, had served in the covenant military for that long

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Incredible

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:46 AM

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indeed, guess we don't even know his true age either

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Yep, no known upper bound yet.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:47 AM

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even at that age, Nizat was fully capable of proper combat, not feeble or weak at all

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when you think about it, leaving them along, both sangheili and san shyuum have very, very, very long lives

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alone*

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 4:48 AM

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But man, I hope Nizat lives till the post-war era.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:48 AM

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he better

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wait...if nizat was that age, and we were talking of xytan earlier...how old must Thel 'Vadamee's mentor be?

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good grief

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:51 AM

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San shyuum remind me of tortoises, they live very long but seem pretty frail

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:52 AM

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well that is actually due to san shyuum seeking out and using life-expanding methods 1000 years before the war with humanity

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how long they lived before that? never said

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:52 AM

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Life expanding methods?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:52 AM

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wrong word, life-extending

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my bad

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Ah

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:53 AM

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tis late here

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:55 AM

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I think humans in Haloverse could live over a hundred by then too, since they have tech that can basically remove tumours and eliminate cancer cells

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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one would think, but the oldest human I believe we have thus far was in her late 90s

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Halsey right

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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rather...unimpressive

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Nope

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Or Parangosky

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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no no

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Yes

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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there ya go

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Ah

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Yea still very unimpressive compared to your kind haha

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Wort wort wort

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 AM

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wort wort wort

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 4:57 AM

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arbiter

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Sick emoji

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:57 AM

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"what would you have your ostral do?"

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 4:57 AM

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lol

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Haha

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Too bad birds cant live that long. You can tell by the moa burgers

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:58 AM

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kig-yar maybe

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who knows

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Oh maybe but they dont count

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They make the rest of avians look bad

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:58 AM

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they are bird-like

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Yea

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In h4 and 5 they became alligator

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:58 AM

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nah, crocodiles

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Right

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 4:59 AM

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hm, hey @gilded mason how much time had passed since you asked that kig-yar question?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:00 AM

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About six days

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:00 AM

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..not as bad as I thought

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:00 AM

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lol

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:00 AM

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but not the best either

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expected like "a month or two"

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hopefully the age question will be easier for him to answer

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Yeah

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:03 AM

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wonder if it would be a fair guess to say the Covenant's population could be in the hundreds of billions or trillions

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not counting lekgolo

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Seems possible

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They control thousands of systems, after all.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:05 AM

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true, I am wondering due to the Mass Effect games, whose alien Citadel race, has a population of trillions, yet being founded around 100 AD

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er, 1 AD

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would give far more depth to the Covenant and show how utterly boned humanity was

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Humanity was pretty screwed

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If it werent for the 3 way battle between flood, forerunner constructs and the covenant, as well as the civil war between them and Atriox and later between elites and brutes

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:13 AM

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I wouldn't call Atriox's thing against the Covenant a civil war.

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:13 AM

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More a hindrance i suppose

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:13 AM

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He was more just a petty pirate.

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Yeah

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:13 AM

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Oh ok yea

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:18 AM

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small time petty too

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would say what saved the galaxy(as bias as it sounds) was the sangheili

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:20 AM

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As another admitted biased source, I completely agree.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:20 AM

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eh nevermind, I am being bais and proud of it

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Haha yea you are, but also probably right

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:21 AM

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they were the ones who cleansed delta halo of the plague, attempted to quarantine High Charity, vaporized any tainted vessels, and later took care of the infection on earth. Then took on the brute fleet above the ark

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Then ONI started doing shady stuff right after that. Messed up

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:22 AM

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humanity in halo always seems to mess things up

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not even trying to be biased now, but it sure appears that way

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Just like the CIA of current day

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Yea, i am a birb so i will be as neutral as can be

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:23 AM

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really any govt

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Like current day yea

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Yeah

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:23 AM

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that's what those books were on, cloak and dagger intrigue

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Then again, the San Shyuum pulled politics too

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:23 AM

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not my favorite type of genre

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true

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:23 AM

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I think maybe thats why humanity and san shyuum used to get along

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Way before the forerunners made a hard reset on the galaxy

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:24 AM

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well, ancient san shyuum were hedonists

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:24 AM

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based

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:24 AM

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hm?

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Hmm

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:25 AM

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"based hedonists"

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Is my meaning

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:25 AM

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ah

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ok

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and then for whatever reason ancient humanity was a rather..fickle race

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even before the flood

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:27 AM

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Fickle in what way?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:28 AM

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aggresive

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Oh

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:28 AM

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not liking other alien races

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:28 AM

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They decided to fight the Forerunners instead of warning them

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:28 AM

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they feared warning them would allow the flood to go further, as the forerunners didn't consider the parasite a major threat to their ecumene

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....yet they lost"hundreds" of battle fleets to the flood when they first came across it during the war with humanity

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Hubris

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:30 AM

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and their lifeworkers claimed that even with humanity and forerunners vaporizing the flood whereever they found it, it could have consumed the galaxy within a few centuries

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yea, seemed the lifeworkers were the only ones that understood the threat

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:30 AM

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What a shame

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:30 AM

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indeed, least the modern era learned the lesson

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kind of

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:31 AM

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I guess someone had to mess something up so we have the world messed up enough for us to shoot stuff in haha

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:31 AM

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eh, if someone is to blame, seems to be the precursors

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:31 AM

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For creating life?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:32 AM

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no, for somehow being a elder race that created life in the galaxy, had traveled between galaxies for hundreds of millions of years, and yet thought going nuts would be a fun gig after the forerunners rebelled

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Oh lol

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:33 AM

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not very fond of that part

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Thats one way to put it

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I wonder how the forerunners even found a way to overwhelm the precursors

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:34 AM

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why I prefer the Covenant and sangheili, more grounded in reality

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eh, the books say the precursors didn't even bother defending themselves

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Oh lord

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:34 AM

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well, the gravemind from 1 book

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:34 AM

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So they let it happen

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:35 AM

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apparently, they marvaled at what the forerunners were capable of

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the wrath and destruction

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Funny cos thats what humans are known for

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:36 AM

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the 2nd forerunner book does comment that, before the forerunner rebellion, humanity and forerunner were one race

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implies anyway

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Woah

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You mean as in same species or they lived tgt in harmony?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:36 AM

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yep, then something happened to cause them to become two different races

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first one

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Huh

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Interesting

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:36 AM

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kinda

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:37 AM

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Sounds abit like retcon ngl haha

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:37 AM

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though fun thing on that part, humans were not called that at the time

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as the gravemind in the 3rd book, talking to a forerunner catalog, comments that the mantle was not to be given to forerunners but to those "you now call human"

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Oh yea

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You sure know your lore

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:38 AM

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most of my knowledge rests with Covenant, sangheili, and some forerunner

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but don't bother asking me anything on humanity

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never had much of a care to learn anything on them, couldnt tell you the difference between warthogs

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Humanity is mostly full of shady stuff

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Yeah, I don't care about the intricities of human weaponry/vehicles.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:40 AM

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like someone goes "the halo 1 assault rifle is the(enter type) and halo 3 was the (enter different type)" I can't do that 😩

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:41 AM

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Oh yea the last alphabet is a tad different, but i suppose you can do that for plasma guns.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:41 AM

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yea kinda

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:41 AM

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The type 2 plasma rifle or something

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:41 AM

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type 25

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:41 AM

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I dont even haha

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Dang

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:42 AM

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type 25, current design thought to be 500 years old, and the gun itself thousands of years old

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:42 AM

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In CE, i always try to grab the plasma guns

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:42 AM

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always loved them

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better for flood fights too

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Just cos they looked cool and i didnt need to reload

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Yea haha

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:42 AM

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good reasons too

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Tried to maintain that tradition for later Halos but i can tell they got big nerf

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:43 AM

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fun thing, that "500" years thing was what oni thought, but you see the gun being used by the arbiter who faced off against the lekgolo/hunter worms

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:44 AM

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So the real age is 1000s of years?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:44 AM

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that was...think 68 years after the Covenant was founded, and by 2552, the Covenant was 3400 years old

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:44 AM

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Oh man

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:45 AM

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wait, i am wrong there

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:45 AM

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The covenant was built on a lie

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:45 AM

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the characters from halo, Broken Circle used them too

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:45 AM

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They really think they become gods when they activate a ring

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:45 AM

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that was 1-2 years after the Covenant was founded

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yea they thought that

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think truth put in best in contact harvest, before he came a hierarch

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:46 AM

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851 BCE according to wiki

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:46 AM

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in their eons of looking, the Covenant neevr found forerunner remains

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not even armor apparently, seeing as they had no clue what forerunners looked like

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:47 AM

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I think all remnants of forerunner bodies were decimated by the rings

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Not even armour wow

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:47 AM

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no, killed sure but not ground to dust

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they would have just drpped dead

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Oh i thought they get Thanos'd

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:48 AM

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nope

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that only happaned on worlds where lifeworkers put a unique powder in the air

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that caused the dead biomass to melt way to prevent making a planet become a gravemind of rot

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and they didn't have time to do it everywhere

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others would, after the rings being fired, just be literal piles of deal flesh, having previosuly being planet-wide flood keyminds

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Oh but those planets w dead bodies everywhere will still get infected, no?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:55 AM

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no

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any flood left couldn't use them anymore due to the nervous systems being damaged

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they would just be infection forms trapped on a world of death, until they themselves die

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Oh i see

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:56 AM

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yep, whole point of the rings

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Nasty to think abt tho

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Any idea whats up w the Domain? Or is that beyond your scope?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 AM

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in what reguard? what do you wish to know?

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 AM

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It was thought to be dead and then its actually alive

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 AM

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the domain was restored by surviving forerunners

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Yeah, the surviving Forerunners after the firing went to go "reboot" it

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Oooh

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 AM

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yep, a forerunner lifeworker gave her life to do it

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Ah cool, thanks for the tidbits guys

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:00 AM

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Too bad it didn't help the Didact!

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:00 AM

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it's implied her mind became a "new template" for the domain, where the older caretaker, a precursor ai furious with the forerunners, was just gone afterwards

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@gilded mason likely couldn't connect to him

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:00 AM

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They shoulda' turned his Crytum off and on again as well. 😋

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:00 AM

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heh

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hey ostral, quick question, in regards o plasma torps

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Ye?

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 6:01 AM

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What a shame, poor didact

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:01 AM

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did 343 make them fully physcial, like a mac round covered in plasma, or has it more been a "our plasma bolts are charged up from the plasma canisters from warfleet"

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was looking over tha and not sure which idea to go with

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Here's what Warfleet says:

Command link-guided projectile surrounded by a superheated plasma sheath. Upon impact the torpedo released its deadly payload to disrupt energy shielding and melt hull plating.```

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:05 AM

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....

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why 343 why

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:06 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Who knows

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:06 AM

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I could have lived with it being like batteries, have them on, fire some plasma, get a new battery

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or even better, physical torps being something from the very early covenant, that was given to brutes

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wonder how tough a flood-infected hunter would have been, had bungie kept their idea for all covenant races to be turned by the flood

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Hey guys

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I have got a question

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Ye?

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:14 AM

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How did remaining spartans and halsey escape the micro Dyson sphere in 👻 of onyx

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Bro...?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Lucy-B091 discovered several Huragok which helped the human survivors contact the Office of Naval Intelligence ships outside the slipspace bubble and eventually bring the sphere into normal space.

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Where did u get it

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Halopedia

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Oh

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It is not mentioned in books

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I guess

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Read Glasslands?

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Nope

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Honna read it now

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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That's where it happens

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Just completed onyx

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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...I mean, you don't have to read that one

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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What is it about

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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You could just, maybe, ignore that trilogy.

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Oh

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But can u tell me what's there in that book

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:20 AM

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It's mainly about a group, Kilo-5, tasked by ONI to arm war-mongering factions on Sanghelios to prevent Thel from achieving his goals.

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Oh

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Thn,

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Thnx

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Anyways

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:20 AM

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And has some very odd Halsey bashing

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Have a good day

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 6:20 AM

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That oversimplifying the intended outcome

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:20 AM

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lol

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 6:20 AM

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But technically yeah

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If you wanna be simple

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Wait a minute. Were you not able to say the first word of GoO?

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Who?

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Me

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Ghosts

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You can say it.

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:24 AM

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Oh, huh. I thought MaNn's post got filtered

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 6:24 AM

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If anyone’s would have, it’d be me, lol

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:44 AM

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maybe 😛

maiden crest Dec 31, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Yep

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My post got filtered

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Ah, Wow

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It was the singular version of the word, Canadian.

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:45 AM

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hm?

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really?

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huh, the heck

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Now I'm just confused there

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:45 AM

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should we really be shocked anymore?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:46 AM

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I guess after they went so far as to filter actor names...I guess not.

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 6:55 AM

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That’s.....huh

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:55 AM

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Ostral: I only wish to express my concern that the fil-

Filter bot: Are you questioning my decision?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 6:55 AM

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lol

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Recent spoilers have made it the abundantly clear the maturity can no longer guarantee Our safety

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Couldn't resist

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 6:58 AM

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See I’d argue the opposite

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:59 AM

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but that would ruin the joke 😛

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 6:59 AM

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I know :P

I’d argue the filter isn’t lenient enough when it comes to specific, mature topics

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 6:59 AM

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true

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well hopefully the tight grasp will release somewhat after a month or so with galaxy battles being out

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think we will ever get a name for ancient humans?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 7:03 AM

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Probably not

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 7:04 AM

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likely, though wonder why not

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can't be that hard to name their civilziation

severe bone Dec 31, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Ancient Humanity...the...Terrans?

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Or the forefathers ;P

gaunt oakBOT Dec 31, 2019, 7:36 AM

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Auto unmuted @twilit meadow

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 7:47 AM

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Do you think the forerunners and precursors exist outside of the galaxy?

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And would the halo rings only work in our galaxy or can they reach farther?

wicked pasture Dec 31, 2019, 7:52 AM

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It’s very likely that some precursors left the galaxy, if there are actually any left though is unknown. As for the forerunners, we know that some did escape to places outside of this galaxy, if there are any remaining is also unknown.

Although the rings do have an impressive range it does not reach extremely far out from the galaxy.

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 7:58 AM

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I be the flood made it to another galaxy to escape the rings reach.

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And I wonder if there are bigger better villians out there. The possibilities are endless

potent cargo Dec 31, 2019, 12:42 PM

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I wonder the maximum lifespan a forerunner can live

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Cause we know the armor allows them to live far beyond of normal standards

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Where in the galaxy is the Zeta Hydronis Secundus system located?

obsidian thistle Dec 31, 2019, 1:57 PM

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The system must be near the very edge of the Milky Way Galaxy, as the Andromeda galaxy is visible from Site C in good detail.

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But if that holds in canon is beyond me tbh.

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Could just be a skybox thing

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 2:14 PM

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@potent cargo well, the 3rd forerunner book does mention a rate called the theoriticals, who were absorbed into the builder rate around 1 million years ago due to one of their rate getting curious on the precursor-forerunner relation. A physical copy of her work was later given to the librarian by a theoritical. Would find it odd for some builder to call themselves that if their ancestors were in the rate, she they may have been one of the last.

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wonder if the harvestor seen in halo 4 was an example of lekgolo tech, seeing as they were tier 4 before the Covenant arrived

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 2:29 PM

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It's a Covenant Mining Walker

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Not made by Lekgolo

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Now yes, but with how organic it looks compared to other vehicles? Could see.it originally being for lekgolo

light quail Dec 31, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Wait, is the harvester that giant octopus looking thing?

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Been almost 3400 years of them being in the Covenant

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@light quailyes

light quail Dec 31, 2019, 2:45 PM

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_<

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 2:45 PM

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@light quailoh wait no no

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@light quailthats a kraken

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 2:47 PM

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It's manufactured by Lodam Armoury and while it does feature Lekgolo worms, the Harvester was not built by Lekgolo and is not an example of their tech

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 2:47 PM

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You're thinking of the kraken from halo 5, I am talking of the beetle like vehicle from halo 4

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@carmine sleethm a pity

light quail Dec 31, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Yea I just looked it up... that thing could give someone nightmares

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Always thought that was a.nice theory, lekgolo tech repurposed for the covensnt

potent cargo Dec 31, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Thank you for the info @terse lava

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what is everyone's thoughts on the kraken?

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 4:09 PM

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WOOP DE GOSH DARN DOO IM BACK

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The Kraken is a really, really tall Scarab with half the legs, right?

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But better armoured, I think

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 4:12 PM

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It's not a Scarab, it's a mobile forward command post and siege tower

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 4:12 PM

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So, a Scarab is basically a heavy and highly mobile tank

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Kinda

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Honestly, there's no real world thing we can compare a Scarab to

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 4:13 PM

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while the Kraken is a siege engine

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That is true

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the scarab is a spider bot plus a plasma tank

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Plus, Scarabs are labelled as mining platforms, so if anything, real world mining equipment is a better thing to compare it to

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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....

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Oh yeah

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I remember from HW2's DLC

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they use the scarab to break the shield on high charity

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is the Kraken also mining tech repurposed for war?

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 4:16 PM

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No

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Wait, no, I stand corrected, it is a re-purposed excavation walker. Halopedia confirms that

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Armor freeze to maximize shock absorption

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the gel layer expands or something

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she fell from a high place

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after the blast

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idk

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depends on the gel

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gel can deflect fluid and optic weaponry

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but not focused

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aye

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sam got rekt

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he became holy to john

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lol

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im going to not heaven for that

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but it was worth it

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plasma is fluid weaponry

stoic hamlet Dec 31, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Gel lock wouldn’t affect plasma.

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It would cushion falls and stuff

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Like in Reach and the opening of H3.

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 5:53 PM

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OH YEAh

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chief is gel locked at the beginning of 3

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when cortana is monologing about how she chose jhn

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yeah

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chief had better surgery

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and suit

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and luck

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the augmentations

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aye

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exactly

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no strong bones

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no super muscles

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well, not S-II level super muscles

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yep

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S-II are gods
S-III are....demigods

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 5:56 PM

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S-IIIs have got enhanced muscles, just like the S-IIs. It's how they were augmented that differs

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 5:57 PM

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can we not start this again?

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see, the augs for S-II were both surgical and chemical

jovial surge Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 PM

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does anyone know what and where the little flying bird rock turtles came from

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 PM

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the what?

jovial surge Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 PM

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in reach

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Ah

jovial surge Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 PM

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they fly around and give immunity i think

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I wouldn't call Moa "bird turtles"

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 PM

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bird rock turtles......bruh

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I think they mean Engineers

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

6 didn’t get surgical augmentations```
Yeah he did.

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Yup

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S3's also had surgical augments

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 PM

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i think all the S-IIIs did?

jovial surge Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 PM

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so how did the covenant get them

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Well, build and repair things

gilded mason Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 PM

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What kind?
No idea

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 PM

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The Covenant found them

jovial surge Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 PM

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hmmm

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so they just farm them or something

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 6:00 PM

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The Covenant don't farm them

jovial surge Dec 31, 2019, 6:01 PM

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get gamered

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thanks!!

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 7:38 PM

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engineers are semi organic

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they're....bionic?

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yeah, i think bionic is the word

pale quest Dec 31, 2019, 7:39 PM

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They have armour, like a lot of the covenant

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 7:40 PM

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thats's in-built

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its how they were designed

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they're also VERY strong

pale quest Dec 31, 2019, 7:41 PM

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No? The metal plating is not part of their biology

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 7:41 PM

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ohh

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the metal plating is a bomb vest

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that the covies put on them

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in case they get captured

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Only brutes did that

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Aside.from reach gameplay, that was not done to huragok by the covenant

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 7:54 PM

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wasnt it done in odst too?

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we see a lot of huragok in that one too

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it's mentioned in a lot of books, though

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they are

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that i remember

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 8:03 PM

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@versed helmyes, with brutes

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 8:03 PM

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they were designed by forerunners

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ah

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so...psuedo-organic

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Huragok cant be infected by the flood. The plague just kills them

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 8:04 PM

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neat

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bodily fluids

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they still eat stuff

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Yep, they would need an equalivlent of blood or oil to work

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 8:05 PM

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because energy

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DUDE YES

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THEY HAVE A FACE AND EVERYTHING

terse lava Dec 31, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Energy needs to come from somewhere, they cant run on vacuum energy and thus eating works well

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Even forerunners ate

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 8:09 PM

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yeah

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they eat

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THEY EAT

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yeah

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i got carried away.....

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sorry

hollow meadow Dec 31, 2019, 10:00 PM

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They eat, you heck! Banish him for heresy!

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Huragok are amazing and wholesome and deserve the world

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precious bioballoons

meager delta Dec 31, 2019, 11:01 PM

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you guys ready for 2019 2

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?

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 11:03 PM

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If anyone can find me some Huragok to hug, please do

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 11:26 PM

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we all need those floaty glowy purple bags to hug

verbal wasp Dec 31, 2019, 11:47 PM

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If the gravemind can only hack intelligent life than does that mean a smart toilet or a toaster with rudimentary AI is immune to the flood?

versed helm Dec 31, 2019, 11:50 PM

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not necesarily

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AI still qualifies as smart, i think

carmine sleet Dec 31, 2019, 11:51 PM

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I don't think the Gravemind is interested in Logic Plaguing toasters

verbal wasp Dec 31, 2019, 11:59 PM

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you don't know that... you can't know that!

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:03 AM

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we know the flood can affect smart AI so i wouldn't be surprised if it can affect dumb AI aswell

stoic hamlet Jan 1, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Are we dispensing huragok hugs?

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 12:12 AM

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I wish we were

novel lagoon Jan 1, 2020, 12:20 AM

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I wish I could have a huragok as a pet

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:21 AM

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so you want to be Staffan Sentzke

novel lagoon Jan 1, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Who’s that

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:25 AM

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he is the only known civilian in possession of a huragok

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Heh

novel lagoon Jan 1, 2020, 12:29 AM

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We’re does he live so I can steal his huragok

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:30 AM

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New Tyne, Venezia

novel lagoon Jan 1, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Thanks now just gotta get a spaceship

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Anyone know how to get in contract with Elon musk

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:43 AM

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i was thinking

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spartan 4s should have a different name, not spartans

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Demons?

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:44 AM

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demons.

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:44 AM

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cuz they're not as skilled as the originals, but they were chosen among a large group of unsc soldiers. They do deserve some recognition

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 12:44 AM

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@wicked pasture👌

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:44 AM

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eh probably not demons

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it was used as part insult

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Was the name idea....to be positive?

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:46 AM

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just cuz palmer judges chief on his height and madsden was bed hopping with ladies from Rio doesn't mean they are all like that

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idk Vanguards?

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Vikings?

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lol

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I didnt care in the first and wasnt aware of the other. Just don't like them regardless, covenant/sangheili fan. But for the sake of it...Olympians?

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:49 AM

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we should call the athenians

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:50 AM

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probably something that is similar to the fours historically

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 12:50 AM

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What history?

unique rune Jan 1, 2020, 12:51 AM

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I'm still thinking people would be less pissy about Spartan-IV if it was called Orion-IV.

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:52 AM

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i looked up 'ancient soldiers chosen and trained as adults'

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i guess that wouldn't be cuz of who began with orion

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Most ancient soldiers were adults

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:54 AM

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the 1's

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Wouldn't that be a rather....loose term when in ancient times, someone in their 40s was considered old?

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:54 AM

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well there are a lot of spartan IV's

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how many 3's?

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:55 AM

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~900 if i remember correctly

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:55 AM

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900......

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:56 AM

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exactly 930

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:56 AM

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so then why does the unsc need about 300 more?

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Spartan IV is fine. It was logical they would try to make the next iteration be one that is much less morally grey than previous Spartan programs

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:57 AM

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there are only 300 - 500 spartan iv's

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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but point is, the 4's need more respect

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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There's 300 to 500+ Spartan IVs. An exact number isn't known as of right now

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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that means including ORION, II, III, and IV there are 1563 - 1763+ spartans

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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....

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thats a lot of spartans

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Tell that to the Covenant

wicked pasture Jan 1, 2020, 1:01 AM

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300 from ORION, 33 from II, 930 from III, and 300 - 500+ from IV.

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Well Orion was disbanded before the Covies attacked, meaning that the number was probably drastically reduced before the War started, Spartan-II numbers varied throughout the war with the addition of washouts being re-augmented and the subtraction of deaths, Spartan-IIIs lost 598 S-IIIs due to the two suicide missions that Alpha and Beta were sent on respectively, plus there were Headhunters and an unknown number of Mjolnir-clad IIIs, for the IVs we do know of 300-500 Spartan-IVs (but that’s just a ranged number of S-IVs onboard Infinity, not the entire program)

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 1:17 AM

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would think the s4 numbers would be quite small regardless

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I believe the second phase is still ongoing, hence there being more and more S-IVs as time passes

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 1:30 AM

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hm ok

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btw, was it ever retconned, or confirmed as canon, that High Charity's fleet has "hundreds" of megacarriers?"

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Yeah the first class had 150 exactly. Then the second class states 145+. I know that isn’t concrete, but Fireteam Apollo’s roster isn’t static either and that’s because new S-IVs typically join their Fireteam. But that’s all I really got as proof from Halopedia ofc. As for your question, idrk Ado thinkingchief

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Might want to ask CIA that one. He knows a ton of Halo lore and retconned things, but best not to ping him because he may be busy tonight/this morning, since it’s NYE/NYD (which is time zone dependant)

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 1:36 AM

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true

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get a feeling in truth, the Covenant may have had around 100 megacarriers

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 2:29 AM

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didin't....didn't we have that flood vs necromorph talk a couple months ago?

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though a gravemind, I doubt it, a keymind however....maybe, both it and brethean moons are planet-wide horrors

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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no, no, before that, quite certain there was a semi-big debate on flood vs necro

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Flood v xenomorphs thinkingchief

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 3:21 AM

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I...am not really sure, on one hand, flood can use weapons and infect any biomass. On the other hand, xenos have acid blood, their only advantage but a good one. Depending on what's going down, I would think the flood, as they would likely find some way around the blood.

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Yep

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 5:00 AM

#

Wonder if the covenant have a new year thing

potent cargo Jan 1, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Happy new year for all races of the universe

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 5:07 AM

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excpet the san shayuum

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Nah, them too.

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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everyone...except the flood

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

#

Hey guys

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From where should i start forerunner trilogy

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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The beginning?

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

#

Name of the book?

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Cryptum.

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Oh

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Thnx

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:05 AM

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could start from fall of reach too

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 6:05 AM

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happy new years boys

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one year closer to 2558

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:05 AM

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indeed

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so, what shall be the first lore topic of the new year?

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

#

good question

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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hm

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Btw

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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yes?

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Who is the narrator in cryptum

#

Who's point of view...?

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Bornstellar himself

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he's telling the tale

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Hmm

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Who is bornstellar

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Read the book and find out

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:08 AM

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the main character of the book

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Thnx

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:09 AM

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welcome

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Its difficult to understand in beginning

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A bit

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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the first chapter?

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or that little intro before that?

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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That one

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Travelling in boat

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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oh

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that was a funny part

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Is bornstellar didact..?

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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not telling

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Why

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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that would ruin the book

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besides

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you will find that answer out pretty early

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Oh

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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....sort of

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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But he is a forerunner

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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yes

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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With chakas

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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yes

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Who's a human

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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yes

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Oh

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All clear

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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excellent

maiden crest Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Thnx

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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welcome

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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we discussing cryptum?

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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yea

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actually, very fitting when one thinks on it

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the beginning of a new year, with the topic being the very first bit of halo lore

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MaNn is starting cryptum

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going through the first chapter apparently

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||test||

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come to think of it

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who bornstellar was talking too, would that have been ||his son?||

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Ignore those MaNn, will ruin the book series for you

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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nyope

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bornstellar's still a ||manipular||

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cant ||have kids||

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he aint ||a man|| yet

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 6:29 AM

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||He's talking about the very first page of the book, I believe. Where he's prefacing the rest of the book as a story being told to somebody.||

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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||I was talking of "Promises to Keep, where the ending had Born telling a tale to his son of beating Mendicant Bias at zeta halo. Thus it made me wonder if the entire Cryptum tale was Born finally telling his child the tale||

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 6:40 AM

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this s starting to look like an ONI document

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:40 AM

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"Sorry guns, it's classified"

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 6:42 AM

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higher level clearance much

gentle ember Jan 1, 2020, 6:49 AM

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so question, the armour Noble team head on, the MK V [B], was that intended for SP II or SP III? and is Noble team SP II or SP III

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Noble Team are Spartan 3s, apart from Jorge, who's a Spartan 2.

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And the Mark 5 is good for any Spartan, but S3s tended not to wear them since they were pretty expensive.

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:09 AM

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never though on this much before, but lore-wise, was there any particular reason the brute plasma rifle was red

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Neural physics

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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ditto with the plasma

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goood answer

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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no

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wait

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normal physics

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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"Why not both?"

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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red plasma is weaker than blue plasma

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lower temp

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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thus my puzzlement

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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lower melt power

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:11 AM

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wouldnt white be better?

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Well, if we go by Frankie's explanation, what the Covenant use isn't actually "plasma"

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:11 AM

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given to brutes since they're considered too dangerous to be trusted

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that's why they dont get huragok

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:12 AM

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@gilded mason true, but they have the higher rate of fire for the aggresive nature of brutes, was that what compenstated for the lower temp "plasma"

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:12 AM

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The whole point of the Brute Plasma Rifles is that they're more powerful, Forth.

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:12 AM

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@versed helm Brutes can be trusted with only one thing, killing

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:12 AM

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These changes - which increased the weapons rate of fire and damage

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"Damage" being the keyword here

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:13 AM

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red plasma is lower temp than blue

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:13 AM

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Yes. In real life.

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:13 AM

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aye

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:13 AM

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yes

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:13 AM

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if we go by Frankie's explanation, what the Covenant use isn't actually "plasma"

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:14 AM

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so, lower temp means longer time taken to overload

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:14 AM

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far as I remember though, they don't really do any more damage then a normal rifle

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it's only the faster plasma

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@versed helm other way around, those things overheat crazy fast

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:14 AM

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I just posted a quote that says, in lore, they do more damage, my dude.

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:15 AM

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ok

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its neural freaking physics

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:17 AM

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I would personally like to propose the theory, that the brute type truly is powered by a tiny precursor hamster running at at ftl velocity within the gun

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:17 AM

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lol

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:17 AM

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or, a covenant fringe

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either works

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though always found it odd the rifles never had any way for the wielder to know they were running low on battery until it reaches "oh crap" moment

noble fjord Jan 1, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Happy New Year's my fellow nerds...

I was at a party for New Years and I heard someone playing Halo War 2... I actually got sad hearing Serina's goodbye again

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ok the dumb filter is still up

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Covenant soldiers could probably just use their HUD, or some other thing that exists in lore

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:21 AM

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maybe

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:22 AM

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,,,,,

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:22 AM

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@noble fjord happy new year to you too our undead comrade

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:22 AM

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aye

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has a good one

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:23 AM

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fun question, you get one weapon from halo, and one piece of armor, what would they be?

noble fjord Jan 1, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Hmmm

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One piece or one set?

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:36 AM

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eh, will go with set

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:44 AM

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i stg if i hear @gilded mason say neural physics one more time, i'm glassing the planet

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:44 AM

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based

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neural physics

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do it

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:45 AM

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ihysm

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:45 AM

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❤️

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:45 AM

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❤️

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anyways, i'd take the halo ce magnum, and obviously mjolnir armor

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Though, the armor would just sit there, lookin' pretty.

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 AM

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wouldn't be able to wear it

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 AM

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here with this question, you are capable of wearing it

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Oh nice

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Mjolnir all the way then

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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because precursor

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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hmmmmm

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wait

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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combat harness and plasma rifle here

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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HUNTER armour

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arc 920

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can a combat harness even work on a human?

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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PRECURSORS

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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walking breathing siege engine

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Gen3 Mjolnir with a Mark V look. 😎

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 AM

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everything works when precursors are added

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 AM

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N E U R A L P H Y S I C S

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 AM

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except pets, don't add it to pets

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 AM

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thx neural physcis i love u

stoic hamlet Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Any MA5, and probably just ODST gear, to wear MJOLNIR you need the neural linkups and stuff, and it moves so fast it would be almost incomprehensible for a regular person to use it.

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 AM

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gravemind: we love you too

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 AM

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neural physics is the way out of an answer

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it's the answer to everything, and nothing at the same time

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 AM

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yep

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when in doubt, precursor it out

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:49 AM

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👌

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:49 AM

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lmao

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what if ancient humanity actually existed, but we don't yet know about it?

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and we are in the halo universe

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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what if the Covenant are out there right now

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fighting a flood outbreak

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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thx ~~neural physcis~~ covenant i love u

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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XD

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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physcis

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neural physics

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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fyzx

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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"If you have a momemnt, wold you like to hear about the great journey?"

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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vfx

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"no thank you. I follow the forerunner way of life"

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cryptums away

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:51 AM

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"protecting life?"

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"no silly, devolving everything"

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:51 AM

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"Child of my enemy, why have you come? I offer no forgiveness... a father's sins, passed to his son."

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said the friend to the son of the guy who owed him money

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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"we messed up, so instead of being a good elder race, we are going to burn the galaxy in say, 10 million years?"

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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"we dont devolve life. oh no, siree. we teach them patience

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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by devolving them

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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by making them wait even longer to get the wheel"

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:54 AM

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heh

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"Ah, i see your kind had recently started colonizing your local moon, theres a problem with that." "And what's that?" " Your wheel was made of improper stone, back to the iron age with you"

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:55 AM

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ancient humanity: guys, we got wheels!
forerunners: imma stop you right there

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:55 AM

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pretty much

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:55 AM

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wait what

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dude

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wtf

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:55 AM

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hm?

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censor again?

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:55 AM

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OH FRICK

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no

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read the line about the iron age

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slowly

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:56 AM

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hm?

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what's wrong with it? using stone age felt to obvious

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aside from technically the wrong age, not seeing anything off

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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the time gap's hilarious

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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true

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or maybe the forerunners felt merciful

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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"wheels made of the wrong stone? LEVEL UP!"

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 7:58 AM

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maybe some petty forerunners did indeed to that kind of stuff

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:59 AM

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i think you mean high

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 8:03 AM

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shrug

warm rampart Jan 1, 2020, 2:58 PM

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i have reason to believe why the remember reach trailer isnt canon

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the trailer takes place on reach, and it shows kat running with a nuke

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she gets blown up by a banshee and is severely injured (this is where she lost her arm)

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the old noble six runs up to her, picks up the nuke and flies up to the covenant ship

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when inside he blows it up and dies in the explosion

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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It's not set on Reach

warm rampart Jan 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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where is it set?

delicate sky Jan 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Fumirole

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Thom is the guy who nukes the covvie ship

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the og noble 6

warm rampart Jan 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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yea hes old noble 6

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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The trailer explains why Six joined Noble, because the previous Six died

warm rampart Jan 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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but why is noble team positioned there? i thought they were always meant to be on reach, and jorge talks about it being his home as if hes always been there

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Noble weren't permanently stationed on Reach

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Jorge speaks of it being his home because it is his home

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Jorge is a Spartan-2, those guys were trained on Reach from when they were 6 years old

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Jorge was also born on Reach too

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Oh Did not know that

main sluice Jan 1, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Massive wet greasy loud mildly fragrantly stinky vociferous fart

umbral citrus Jan 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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did they change the kid's names for the program because taking from the planet they based the program in seems like a redaction waiting to happen

true shadow Jan 1, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Officially all the children who were kidnaped were completely written out of all documentation

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Okie so I have a question, during the few last mission with the Arbiter in Halo 2. Why was it that Tartus was able to activate the Ring? I’m guessing that when he slammed the Icon into the activation, Marinda Keys was shoved into a activating the Ring.

true shadow Jan 1, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Well, most at least... the flash clones still existed which means there’s probably still bits and pieces here and there

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She was holding the index at the time when Tartarus slammed the key into the console

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Hm. Okay

true shadow Jan 1, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Oh wait I was wrong

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He inserted the key and pushed Miranda’s hand against it to activate it

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Only a reclaimer can activate the halo arrays in that current year. It would be literally impossible for Tartarus to activate it because he isn’t a reclaimer. So to work around this he inserted the key then used Miranda’s hand to activate it.

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Happy new year to the forerunners

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Wait no

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Happy death anniversary

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CSGOMister

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 4:26 PM

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No

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They don't know their own last names but first names stayed the same

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 4:32 PM

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aye

umbral citrus Jan 1, 2020, 4:33 PM

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i was thinking you see a giant man with the face and name of a phantom

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which might raise suspicions but if you're being saved from the metal spike flinging apes you probably wouldn't dwell on it

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I think only Serin, Naomi and Kurt know their full names

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and even Serin's was given by ONI

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so only Naomi and Kurt

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But Kurt's dead

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so only Naomi

stoic hamlet Jan 1, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Kurt never found out his full name

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We know it

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But he doesn’t, at least to our knowledge

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Oh yeah

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He dies to get all the others into the Dyson sphere that was Onyx

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And Halsey calls it Point......Ambrose?

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I dont remember the name

umbral citrus Jan 1, 2020, 5:52 PM

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i was looking at it from the other side where it's the family somehow running into them which is unlikely but still

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 5:58 PM

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that actually kinda happens in kilo five

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like, ||they get a mission to rek an insurrectionist leader on new venezia, who turns out to be naomi's dad||

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I find it weird how they forget the surname though. You’d think that from the age of six they’d be able to remember it

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Maybe just me

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 6:10 PM

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it wasnt used at all

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and they werent given time to remember the not kidnapped days

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so it just slipped out

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i guess

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something like moon-blinking

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 6:30 PM

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You think given more time, ancient humanity would have created their own ark-like constructs to help.presrve lifeforms?

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Would imagine some type of large vessel though over a megae-engineering project

half apex Jan 1, 2020, 6:40 PM

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wait

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:01 PM

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.......i guess

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i mean, we wont have made it from the preserve life point of view

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but an awesome mobile base point of view

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Was Ancient Humanity more powerful than the Forerunners? I don’t really dive into AH and Forerunner lore too much, just here and there

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Was Ancient Humanity more powerful than the Forerunners?
Nope

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:38 PM

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I’m not questioning your knowledge, but could you give a summary of how Forerunners were more powerful? Other than the AH-Forerunner war as I know most of that

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And that AH sacrificed 2/3 of their population to stop the Flood advancement (more or less not exactly)

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I never cared about Forerunners/Ancient Humans enough to really research their stuff, so all I am aware of is Forerunners being more powerful. 😋

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:39 PM

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well, the didact did say that they won because humanity was fighting on 2 fronts

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so could be

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Fair enough Ostral, I’m practically the same lol

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Pacino, I am aware that AH was fighting the Flood and Forerunners at the same time, but I was looking for evidence supporting the fact that Forerunners were stronger

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:41 PM

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the humans mainly got their stuff from the sanshyum alliace

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and some precursor tech, i think

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so, im pretty sure that without those

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Found this on Ancient Humanity's Halopedia page.
In the decades prior to the dismantling of their civilization, humans were technological equals of the Forerunners in many areas, likely placing them on Tier 1 on the Forerunner technological achievement scale. This was largely thanks to the efforts of Yprin Yprikushma, who encouraged humanity to study Forerunner technologies encountered in earlier conflicts with Forerunners. Despite this, the Forerunners' technological achievements still overshadowed those of humanity in many fields, including megascale engineering and slipspace technology. For example, the humans were seemingly unable to construct megastructures on the scale of a Halo installation, and their understanding of space-time reconciliation was inferior to that of the Forerunners, who were able to use their superior understanding of slipspace to an advantage by clogging the humans' slipspace channels and slowing their interstellar travel.

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:42 PM

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ok

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:42 PM

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So they were able to close the gap somewhat by taking Forerunner tech.

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:42 PM

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so we were pretty much at par with forerunners

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:42 PM

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"We"?

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:43 PM

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So similarly to how humanity closed the gap with the Covenant during the war is what it sounds like

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:43 PM

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aye

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pretty much

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Man. Forerunners: The species everyone loves to copy.

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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also the ones that made giant wedding rings

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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But did they copy the Precursors?

unique rune Jan 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Copying Forerunners

So hot right now

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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and died because of those rings

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its so in vogue

unique rune Jan 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Don’t think anyone was ever quite advanced enough to copy the Precursors.

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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like, do you even ancialla,bro

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nah

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they had neural physics

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which took normal physics

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and put it in ze blender

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with plasma bombs

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Well not in advancements, no, but other aspects, yeah

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They did copy Precursors to some extent.

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 PM

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of course they did

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precursors made them

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 PM

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The Covenant is more advanced than Precursors at not being dead zombies. 😎

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 PM

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oooooooo

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noice one

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 PM

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So’s humanity 😉

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 PM

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but not the runners

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they blew up

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:46 PM

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lol

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Well some are out there... hidden away

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 PM

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like who?

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didact? DEAD

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iso? DEAD

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librarian? i guess dead

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 PM

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The couple that were on the Ark during the array activation. I’ve forgotten their names

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:47 PM

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iso and librarian

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along with offensive bias

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Librarian was not on the Ark.

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 PM

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The Librarian wasn’t on the Ark, I don’t think. Correct me if I’m wrong

gilded mason Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Chant-to-Green and Iso were on the Ark, though.

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:48 PM

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i remember reading her and iso face the flood on the ark

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oh

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OH YEAH

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iso distracts the flood

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to have librarian follow ur

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I can see why you thought Librarian was on the Ark considering Chant-To-Green is also a Lifeworker like Librarian (who’s like the highest tier of Lifeworkers I think). Do forgive me if I make some mistakes with Forerunner lore, it’s very confusing sometimes, and I’m not well versed in it...

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 7:53 PM

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aye

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the names are trippy af

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bornstellar

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faber

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chant to green

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 7:55 PM

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The two Didacts (Iso and Ur) and the two Biases (Mendicant and Offensive) as well. The writers don’t make it easy

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 8:09 PM

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then there's chakas

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and yprin

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 8:10 PM

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And forthencho

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Well we refer to him as 343 Guilty Spark (or alternatively 343 GS) as Chakas was his human name. Idk if he’s adopted it again after joining the crew on the Ace of Spades though

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Oddly no

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Just the last part of his monitor name

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Right. I just couldn’t remember lol

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Think due to chakas has returned in full, his time as a monitor towers over his time as a human

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Yeah, like hundreds of thousands of years surpassing his time as a human

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Only one hundred thousand

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 8:26 PM

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I was being hyperbolic, to exaggerate the point lol

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Fair enough

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Should’ve made that clear

terse lava Jan 1, 2020, 8:28 PM

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All good

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If precursors only saw humanity as worthy of the mantle, what was ti be the fate of the rest of the races? Just erasure?

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Well I mean Forerunners didn’t do very well handling the Mantle either. Then it ultimately fell to humanity again (but it’s modern humanity), but Cortana was power hungry, and seized it for herself and the AIs

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I just realised Humanity has had the Matle seized from them twice lol

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 9:09 PM

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we are dweebs for sure

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just cant keep the good stuff

inner basin Jan 1, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I don’t think it’s that they can’t keep it, but I don’t think they understand it. Well at least Modern Humanity (as a whole) anyways, not sure about Ancient Humanity. I’d imagine they also were unaware of what it was particularly, maybe they had more of an idea compared to Modern Humamity

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Can spartans survive in lava and if they can for how long?

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 9:39 PM

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It's lava, they'd die like most things if they fell in it

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Shields might protect them for a short time but I doubt they'd be able to make it out if they're dumped in the middle of a lake of lava

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Also how do covenant(specifically elites) react when you kill one of them with an energy sword

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 9:41 PM

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They try to kill you

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 9:43 PM

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But are they A)Pleased because you killed them with their holy blade
Or
B)Furious because you killed them with their holy blade

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 10:13 PM

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c) triggered that someone took their blade

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All three are equally plausible

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Another one

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You think that unsc will try to make their own energy swords

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Or at least turn normal combat knifes into energy knifes?

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or d) dead, since they got stabbed

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 10:16 PM

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The UNSC are likely going to be sticking with standard blades for the most part but they do have energy bayonets in the post war

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 10:16 PM

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yep

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Yea but how about

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We put them

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standard blades cant get emp'd

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on the wrists of spartans

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-me if i was a unsc weapons designer

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.....

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Spartans aren't Predators

versed helm Jan 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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But predators are cool

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how you gonna power them without taking power from the rest of the suit

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cause the power reduction will mess up some systems

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And looking at how expensive a simple hardlight sheild is on it

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Uhhh

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Yea that will be hard

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aye