they use both MJOLNIR and SPI depending on mission need.
#lore-and-universe
stoic hamlet
fresh vortex
gamma spartans were outfitted with spi, at what point do they receive anything else?
deep pewter
When any that survived were rolled into the SIV program
That’s a big when, but if any did that would be when
feral perch
There’s 330 of ‘em. I’m sure there were several who survived
carmine sleet
They weren't really rolled into the S-IV Program, they were just brought into the Spartan Branch
golden basin
"WORT." — Avu Med 'Telcam's final words.
gilded mason
Ugh
golden basin
Most like the S-IIIs of Gamma Company
carmine sleet
Tom and Lucy were instructors for Gamma Company during their training
golden basin
Ash-G099, Olivia-G291, and Mark-G313 are three known that are still active.
G059 was the Spartan that killed Telcam.
wicked pasture
Team katana is still in cryo
golden basin
The above three like to tease ONI operative Veta Lopis by calling her mom since she dotes on them a lot.
carmine sleet
They weren't cryo frozen
wicked pasture
They were slipspace pods I just couldn’t remember
urban folio
I have been binging lore videos ever since Halo Reach come out
deep pewter
So what have you learned?
urban folio
Well how badsass Mendicant Bias is, even though I do not completely understand. Was he like a super AI like the Warmind in Destiny, or an orb like 343 Guilty Spark
wicked pasture
More of a super AI
Guilty spark and the other monitors aren’t very close to any of the AI from before the firing of the halo rings
golden basin
Mendicant Bias was known to be the most advanced AI the Forerunner created
Unfortunately, it went rampant
stoic hamlet
as far as we know, aside from the 7 Gammas killed on Onyx, all remaining members are still alive and active.
wicked pasture
As far as we know all but ~15 of the gammas were off of Onyx when it fell
stoic hamlet
they were
all 315 other members of Gamma were deployed
For whatever reason, Halo seems to be a franchise where most fans assume if we don't hear about a character they're dead. I don't know of any other franchise that has this phenomena.
wicked pasture
I think it’s more that people don’t know how many Spartans there are
stoic hamlet
that as well, yeah
people just take their info at face value and neglect to actually research.
annoyed grumbles
urban folio
So Mendicant Bias, shorty story short, was "infected" by the last precursor with the logic plague. Basically convinced that the flood was a good idea
golden basin
Funny how the creation of the Flood was all the fault of the Forerunners.
oak geyser
ya
terse lava
Would actually blame the precursor not the Forerunners for That
With what we currently know, the precursors were allegedly going to erase their forerunners as an unworthy species of the Mantle. The only one to object to that was the Primordial who claimed the forerunners revolted peerly from not being chosen as the heirs to the mantle.
fresh vortex
lore behind the manufacturing of energy daggers or the cost of an energy sword as well as mjolnir class armor
random cradle
Wasn’t the flood caused by forunners feedin the spited to there dogs and other animals
urban folio
Isn't the Flood technically the precursors but corrupted
Also yeah the kibble they gave the dogs was actually flood spores oops
gilded mason
Wasn’t the flood caused by forunners feedin the spited to there dogs and other animals
Humans and San'Shyuum, not Forerunners.
urban folio
Can you believe it? The prophet race and humans were once allies
deep pewter
Should’ve genocided them when we had the chance
gilded mason
🤔
fresh vortex
did any gamma spartans receive mjolnir armor?
wicked pasture
- the forerunners genocided the ancient san shyuum so thats something.
- Only some spartan iiis are known to have gotten mjolnir and as far as i know none from gamma company ever did.
stoic hamlet
All Gammas have MJOLNIR post 2552, as confirmed by Troy Denning. @wicked pasture @fresh vortex
They were arguably the first to really receive it seeing as at the time they’re like, over 95% of all active Spartans.
gilded mason
All Gammas have MJOLNIR post 2552
...All?
wicked pasture
man even after kurt didnt want them to see him in his mjolnir armor
terse lava
That was because he didnt want them seeing him differently then them
wicked pasture
then they all got mjonir armor anyways
terse lava
That would make sense really. Had they had the budget for it, pretty sure the higher ups would have geared all the s3 in that
stoic hamlet
@gilded mason at the very least they can all request it. Even Saber had MJOLNIR, they just don’t need it.
gilded mason
Yeah, that was my issue, since Last Light had them all using SPI
stoic hamlet
Well yeah, they would have had MJOLNIR from the get go if it hadn’t been for the budget.
Retribution mentions they have MJOLNIR suits.
gilded mason
Do you have that Denning source, though?
stoic hamlet
It was a tweet. I know it’s been posted before
wicked pasture
all the spartans with veta lopis are the only named ones known to still be wearing spi
gilded mason
Ah, I actually just found it
https://twitter.com/TDenningauthor/status/912701051844874240
Spartans III were (for the most part) initially issued SPI, but they have been transitioning to Mjolnir starting at about the time of Retribution.
So during Last Light, the transition hadn't started yet.
stoic hamlet
Yeah.
I’m guessing Retribution is where GEN2 was first put into mass production
Timeline wise
gilded mason
Probably
versed helm
"But sir, you dont have the firepower"
How is it that Hornets can take down scarabs but a pelican cant?
stoic hamlet
I’d argue hornets killing it that fast is gameplay
versed helm
Hmmm that makes sense
I always found that line weird lol kinda feels like Carters sacrifice was pointless. Like Pelicans have missiles on them, he should have just shot some at its legs
wicked pasture
pelicans have a nuke on them if i remember correctly
terse lava
Don't think Carter's pelican had anything even
gilded mason
I always found that line weird lol kinda feels like Carters sacrifice was pointless.
I think it was implied he was already dying.
wicked pasture
in the animated version of the fall of reach and the graphic novel the pelican has a HAVOK on it. thats what i was thinking of
terse lava
Funny thing when you think on it, noble and emile just stood there while the scarab charged the beam
Didnt bother running for cover at all
gilded mason
"This is fine."
lunar condor
I mean it is an excavation vehicle, dont really think theres such a thing as cover against a scarab
terse lava
Have time to at least try to run
What a waste of a pelican
Actually, shouldn't Carter have seen that thing as they flew?
It certainly wasnt hiding
lunar condor
Well backdrops on reach show many many scarabs and other units around even if he did see it theres no real other way around it
If they tried to take it down by conventional means they would get swarmed by the time they are done
terse lava
Could have had them drop off at a different point
We see that pelican doing just fine after it flies away
Yet they only jumped due to the threat of the banshees and phantom
inner basin
Well you need to remember how important that Cortana fragment was. They didn’t want to risk it. In my eyes it makes perfect sense why they bailed out as early as they did.
As for why Carter crashed the Pelican into the Scarab? Carter ultimately just saved himself from the inevitable anyways. He was bleeding really badly that he had blood splatters over the pelican’s glass window at the front, and he took his helmet off knowing his time is almost up when talking to Six. He decided he wanted to go out helping his team get the objective done.
What annoys me about Reach is that if Emilé survived, Six would’ve been able to get off planet essentially, and it was touching how Emilé said “get the package to the pad and get the h*ll of this planet”, knowing that the planet is doomed to fall. He also was willing to sacrifice his life for Six, but because Emilé got bold, he got himself killed in the end. Just imagine if Six did get off Reach.
stoic hamlet
I feel he probably could have survived. Carter, I mean.
Had he gotten to a hospital
inner basin
There were no hospitals nearby though
The only remote help nearby would be soldiers not nurses and doctors and such. Remember a lot of Reach was being glassed at this point
I mean albeit, soldiers do have medics, but their help would be limited as they can only carry so much on the field
wicked pasture
the best they would have been able to do would be filling him with biofoam and hoping
inner basin
That’s even if that have any biofoam left after so much fighting on the planet
Other soldiers may need biofoam too, such as ODSTs and other Marines
rancid delta
Perhaps they could've evacuated him to the pillar of autumn and put him in stasis, like they did with linda
He could've survived then
wicked pasture
theoretically but then the already broken continuity would be even more broken
rancid delta
@wicked pasture yeah true
wicked pasture
continuity is fun and apparently retconning your own continuity is just a fun
rancid delta
But I mean, for Noble Six, he could've shot down the cruiser and boarded the PoA
They could've stalled
wicked pasture
yea but he also wasnt in the first game or the book
rancid delta
I think what they should've done before Reach fell was protect every single odp and odg with their lives
That way, they could've destroyed all 300 covenant ships
But they only destroyed a third
wicked pasture
most of the spartan iis were protecting the generators
rancid delta
@wicked pasture I mean ALL
Every single soldier in reach should've defended it
Odp are the only thing that can properly cripple a covenant cruiser
They should've been first priority
inner basin
What about civilian evacuations for the ships that slipped past the orbital defence grid and started attacking major population centres? You do know that it’s not planet wide, right?
wicked pasture
the covenant energy projectors could and did destroy the platforms and human ships from over 100000 km
stoic hamlet
But that would condemn the entire planet to be hit with smaller ships
inner basin
I mean the defence of Reach was planned essentially as bait by ONI for Operation: Red Flag which fell flat on its face
Kinda of a poor choice for humanity’s final bastion between the Covenant and Earth imo
I understand Red Flag was to force a cease-fire, but it should’ve been planned for another planet earlier in the war instead (especially when more Spartans were alive too mind you)
wicked pasture
what?
what do you mean by bait. and what do you mean by planned for another planet. also if i remember correctly all 33 spartan iis were still active for red flag and 25 of them were participating.
rancid delta
I mean they could've evacuated all civilians to a place like, earth or something
And then fought to the death
Or they could've abandoned the planet
wicked pasture
cole protocol
versed helm
Only Master Chief's first name has been confirmed, John, so there's a chance his full name could be Johnny Test
rancid delta
Then put everyone into cryo stasis
wicked pasture
thats alot of cryo tubes
rancid delta
But still, it would work
wicked pasture
in theory maybe
rancid delta
Yeah
wicked pasture
but in practice it would be very difficult
wicked pasture
all the covenant ships arrived around the same time in the original continuity and they had little to no warning
fistful of arrows is the fan story of juns survival
rancid delta
@wicked pasture they could go in underground bunkers
Until the world is glassed
Then they could either escape or reterraform
wicked pasture
they never finished glassing the planet
there just so happened to be a forerunner artifact hidden underground on reach
rancid delta
@wicked pasture oh yeah
Then go to the glassed planet and live there
The people of meridian did the same
wicked pasture
there are still people living on reach and it is in the process of being reterraformed
blazing fossil
Bornsteller is dead, correct?
wicked pasture
yes the isodidact is dead
blazing fossil
thx
rancid delta
@wicked pasture 30 years after
wicked pasture
@blazing fossil sorry i was wrong. the ur-didact is dead but the isodidact is still alive
gilded mason
the ur-didact is dead but the isodidact is still alive
Other way around
wicked pasture
am i wrong again
i thought the ur-didact was the one you "kill" at the end of halo 4
gilded mason
Yes, but you don't kill him.
wicked pasture
he dies later i know
gilded mason
Not by ONI
gilded mason
Where at?
rancid delta
Spartan field manual
wicked pasture
his body died but his mind is in the composer
gilded mason
Spartan field manual
Know the page? Because all I found so far was this:
Although seemingly defeated, ONI remains vigilant. Any sightings of the Didact are to be reported immediately.
gilded mason
Know the page?
rancid delta
Yeah I think so
gilded mason
Reading through it, I can't find anything.
versed helm
how big green man in space in halo infinite trailer hur durr - every halo fan 2019
keen canopy
Pretty sure both can be alive
versed helm
??
light quail
So Jerome, Alice, and Douglas were those that initially failed the augmentations the first time. But I also heard that there were candidates that were washouts and placed into cryo until they could be fixed (re-augmented again). Were they those whose bodies were just messed up or were there those that were announced dead but could somehow still be saved?
wicked pasture
they were the only three that were fully rehabilitated
light quail
so not Fhajad or anyone else?
wicked pasture
the other survivors of the augmentations that didn't become full spartans were given to oni
light quail
I thought some received work with the UNSC Navy?
wicked pasture
musa became head of the spartan iv program and ralph became a marine the rest are either not serving, unknown, or working with oni
unique rune
The Spartans that survived augmentations but were crippled and couldn’t be rehabilitated were assigned to other positions within the UNSC, some in the Office of Naval Intelligence like Serin-019.
wicked pasture
serin is commander in chief of oni
confusingly soren joined the insurrection and escaped reach
versed helm
No. Soren dies while trying to escape
wicked pasture
mia
versed helm
Oh wait. he get turned and then he dies
wicked pasture
MIA
versed helm
HE DIES
wicked pasture
his body is never found
gilded mason
It was never stated anywhere that he died.
wicked pasture
he is also confirmed to be in the show which takes place afterwards
stoic hamlet
We still don’t know the canonical of the show
It’s basically confirmed non-canon though
wicked pasture
yea but i wanted to acknowledge its existence
stoic hamlet
Fair
light quail
how deadly are plasma torpedoes? Can't 2-3 of them completely destroy a UNSC ship?
stoic hamlet
One can if it’s a good hit
They’ve been known to just melt through ships in seconds early war
fresh vortex
someone give me a planet attacked by the covenant early in the war
light quail
Eridanus II?
gilded mason
Jericho VII was attacked in 2532
wicked pasture
sansar was glassed at an unknown time
autumn urchin
What happens to the troopers at the end of the level in long night of solace
light quail
they are canonically dead
autumn urchin
Before jorge?
light quail
yea
autumn urchin
What happens in the 16 day period between sword base and nightfall
autumn urchin
How big was reachs fleet?
fresh vortex
where were gammas stationed for the majority of their initial deployment
stoic hamlet
They wouldn’t be “stationed” anywhere
light quail
I think the Epsilion Eridani Fleet was incharge of protecting Reach
but they also protected other systems in the Epsilion Eridani System
stoic hamlet
Gammas (and Spartans in general) never really had a set facility, they moved from combat zone to combat zone as needed.
I’ll thus delete mine.
fresh vortex
then what were some notable battles and missions for gammas
wicked pasture
a lot of the surviving ships from the battle of sigma octanus iv were also at reach
stoic hamlet
Gamma never saw combat during the war, aside from those on Onyx
light quail
Everything defending Reach though pretty much got destroyed
wicked pasture
the only notable battle i can think of is Onyx
autumn urchin
How much is everything?
stoic hamlet
They were deployed but didn’t actually engage enemy combatants until post war
Unless they did fight but it was covered up
I.E, they hit a Swords base unknowingly.
light quail
that moment when you realize 9 Spartan IIs are with the Spirit of Fire O_O
Team Omega and Red Team
stoic hamlet
Nah, only 3
autumn urchin
9?
fresh vortex
so what kinda operations did they undergo
stoic hamlet
Multiplayer isn’t canon
unique rune
Omega’s current whereabouts are unknown
stoic hamlet
Gamma? @fresh vortex
unique rune
Only thing confirmed is three of them survived the War
fresh vortex
yeah
stoic hamlet
Post war one assassinated a high value Sangheili
They’re (seemingly) used as ONI’s super secret black ops
autumn urchin
When did john arrive to reach?
gilded mason
Post war one assassinated a high value Sangheili
Oh?
stoic hamlet
the GEN2 armour RECLUSE is implied to be for them, and has the description:
“This armour appears in no logistics database and has no identification number. It is a suite that doesn’t exist, made for missions that never happened, by Spartans that never were.”
@fresh vortex
Telcam @gilded mason
gilded mason
I thought that was done by SIIIs?
gilded mason
Oh, think I got conversations mixed up
light quail
Hey, for the Spartan III teams under NAVSPECWAR, were their armor customization their own individuality or a premade set?
Not talking about Jorge's clearly modified chestplate and Emile's helmet but like the armor pieces themselves
stoic hamlet
Customized
Spartan Armour is highly modular
But in reality the only actual changes were the helmet, knee guards and shoulders
Everything else was just added to the base suits
light quail
Ahhh, so they were able to choose whatever or things available to them (Within rank or spare pieces)
light quail
So theoretically... Emile could one day just put on a commando helmet...
fresh vortex
yeah
stoic hamlet
Yeah
We see Spartans changing gear often in the books
They rarely personalize their gear
Not to the extent they get attached anyways
light quail
sorry, I'm finding it a little humorous picturing Emile walking out wearing a matching set of Carter's armor and saying "I'm Noble One now."
gilded mason
However, Emile is very self-conscious about branding and wants to start up his own toy line. He'll start raking in the big bucks once kids buy his signature skull-faced action figure.
light quail
^
fresh vortex
lmao, in the mcc i made my spartan a commando and it looks hilarious in the noble actual scene
stoic hamlet
The only example I can think of a Spartan adding more than just a paint job to their armour aside from Emile is an S-III added a Valkyrie decal to her SPI visor
fresh vortex
“who are you?”
“i’m you, but better”
stoic hamlet
But otherwise she didn’t change anything else about the armour
fresh vortex
what were some of the suicidal missions gammas were famous for?
stoic hamlet
Gammas didn’t go on suicide missions
No III did, technically
They went on missions of high risk
But they weren’t suicidal
light quail
Pegasi Delta...
gilded mason
They were expected to be expendable, though.
stoic hamlet
Losses were accounted for, and it was understood that some would die, potentially all of them, but they weren’t expressly sent on “suicide missions” like the majority of fans believe.
Not a suicide mission @light quail if the ships hadn’t been there it’d have been no different than a mission Spartan II’s went on.
Arguably the raid in Silent Storm was more suicidal than Pegasi Delta
fresh vortex
so what were some of the missions they went on? what kind were they?
light quail
Pegasi Delta was to destroy a Covenant ship refuel and resupply station near human colonies
Entirety of Beta Company was deployed (Around 300 I believe?). Only 2 survived
but Eternal said ships were there
I havent read Ghosts of Onyx in a looooooooooong time
stoic hamlet
It was a refuelling and resupply station, heavily defended, but the actual garrison broke ranks at the sight of the company, and the company only took casualties initially because they were spotted by the ships and strafed by enemy fighters.
Even when the cruisers deployed their ground troops the Betas tore through them
light quail
They were all basically taken out by an explosion if im correct, only Tom and Lucy survived by jumping in a ocean
stoic hamlet
Yeah
The cruisers basically started glassing them, so the Spartans blew the factory which ended up killing everything, and Tom and Lucy were the only survivors.
But had those ships not been there arguably none of them would have died.
fresh vortex
and gammas?
stoic hamlet
They never saw action that we know of during the war
light quail
They werent deployed during the human-covenant war but several squads of Gamma competing for top rank found themselves engaging Forerunner and Covenant foes
stoic hamlet
They were deployed
light quail
on Onyx
stoic hamlet
Just never hit their targets that we know of.
Some remained on Onyx, yeah
But that was only 15 out of 330
light quail
i dont think any other information was given on them during the human-covenant war
stoic hamlet
Yeah, that’s all we know
light quail
Katana was the one that went completely KIA if im right and Gladius got put into those pods 😛
light quail
ahhhh okay
stoic hamlet
But they were removed and are now deployed like the rest
light quail
like I said, its been a long while since I read the book =/
fresh vortex
there isnt much on gamma spartans are there...
light quail
What im curious about is if ONI ever decided to put the Sabres back into experimental production after the Human-Covenant war
stoic hamlet
It seems like they integrated its advancements into the Broadsword
light quail
Oh, ew
unique rune
- BaconShelf
A: ... The Sabre was an experimental aerospace fighter and never saw mass production, though it remains in service at ONI facilities in the Sol system (and elsewhere, unofficially); it’s enduring legacy can be seen in the upgrade packages fitted to the contemporary Broadsword strike fighters and Longsword interceptors. ...```What about the Sparrowhawk? I know their lift fans had problems but are they still trying to fix it?
Like maybe combine aspects of the Wasp's lift fans into the Sparrowhawk?
or was it too cost-problematic for the UNSC to continue production?
unique rune
Presumably production might've continued, or at the very least they were never retired.
Several AV-22s appear during the events depicted in Spartan Assault and Spartan Strike.
unique rune
Unless someone from 343 has anything to say, we don't know any more about Bumblebees any more than you do.
light quail
Has to look up bumblebee
Ooooooooh
I don't see it happening unless we have to escape a ship again 🙂
why you keep disappearing? 😠
I wonder what lore reason they will use for the Pelican redesign in Infinite
gilded mason
Simply another type.
light quail
yea i know that but why make their next variant pay homage to previous types despite their current variants during the Requiem campaign
gilded mason
The previous types aren't unused, we simply didn't encounter them in H4/5.
light quail
i know but as you can see in Infinite, they is additional space between the blood tray and cockpit
that wasnt present in previous models
keen canopy
Especially in a war against AI.
In a losing war, you use older tech if you have to.
Also the older/different models could have been in use the entire time
We just didn't see them.
gilded mason
Yeah, could just be newly manufactured pelicans that simply used similar design philosophy.
terse lava
Possibly
light quail
I mean true, you dont just recycle older models, especially if you compare the UNSC Army and UNSC marines
but at 0:42 of the Infinite trailer, you can tell it is different variant than all those we've seen previously as there is a section separating the cockpit and troop bay
gilded mason
The only explanation needed is "The manufacturer used a slightly altered variation of a design previously seen pre-H4/H5."
light quail
I guess, i just find it weird switching from a duo cockpit to single (Not complaining) could probably just write it up as a design flaw 😛
fresh vortex
what’s the range of weaponry that the unsc developed during the war and even post war
terse lava
shrug
fresh vortex
either attachments to standard weaponry in games or anything we don’t see in the games
gilded mason
@fresh vortex
https://www.halopedia.org/Category:UNSC_infantry_weapons
light quail
Swords of Sangheilios and UNSC began to share technologies after the Human-Covenant war
also humanity began to delve further into Forerunner stuff
The Infinity was already in production during the end of the Human-Covenant War though
terse lava
Wondering now, would the Covenant be one of the e longest lives civilizations compared to other franchises? By that I mean not one populated by nigh immortals, hyper tech, or magic. Just regular mortals
fresh vortex
what kind of configurations exists for the ma5k?
autumn urchin
What are the differences between covenant corvettes and cruisers?
Do they have different uses?
rancid delta
@autumn urchin no
light quail
@autumn urchin There are different types of cruisers. One is the Covenant battlecruiser which engages in ship to ship combat, hence its name. Covenant light cruisers are for patrols. Covenant armored cruisers are for planetary occupation and patrol. The Covenant heavy cruiser is fot planetary occupation, command, and supporting flagships
rancid delta
@light quail a result of that was the needles warthog, a warthog with energy shields and a needle turret
light quail
Covenant corvettes are meant for deployment (Basically carriers) and escorting capital ships
versed helm
Corvettes are bebe heavy cruisers
autumn urchin
Only 4?
rancid delta
Yes
It was only supposed to be a quick mission
But when the LNOS got destroyed, they retaliated with all their might
autumn urchin
There were 4 corvettes attacking new alexandria
rancid delta
@autumn urchin yeah
light quail
LNOS was part of the Fleet of Valiant Prudence which was an archaeological research and retrieval group
rancid delta
After LNOS level, there were more
light quail
Two more fleets arrive to assault Reach
rancid delta
@light quail the next fleet that arrived was for orbital bombardment and offense
300 ships
They realised that if a 30km supercarrier could be destroyed, then they would need a lot of cruisers to take over reach
light quail
No, slipspace travel takes time, they arrived just as they destroyed a second corvette (Ardent Prayer) and Long Night of Solace
The Fleet of Valiant Prudence discovered Reach from their luminary. The other two fleets (Holy Respite and Particular Justice) located Reach from a probe attached to the Iroquois
Thel Vadam's fleet arrived near the end of the Fall of Reach and chased the Pillar of Autumn
light quail
Wait, so in Halo CE, is Keyes investigating the Flood Containment facility when Master Chief is on the Silent Cartographer?
gilded mason
Around the same time, yeah.
light quail
was watching all cutscenes from Halo CEA and dialogue popped up that seemed to point towards this
thats why i asked
never noticed before when i was playing
keen canopy
John was tasked with finding the Cartographer in order to find the Control Room. Keyes believed he was searching for a Weapons Cache.
light quail
Yea, i just wanted to know if they took place at the same time
Were the Flood blocking transmissions from the group though when they were in the facility?
or was it the covenant?
golden basin
From the words of the great Dimkee Hotay... imagine a CAS-class assault carrier named Bob.
keen canopy
@light quail Foehammer didn't pick up John's transponder until he came back up the elevator, so it's likely the Forerunners embedded some kind of signal blocking capabilities into the facility itself.
The Marines on the surface were able to communicate with those deep ik the facility somehow, but no other UNSC forces could.
And yea when Keyes and his group went dark on John and Cortana during the Silent Cartographer, they were inside the Containment Facility.
maiden flame
Was it at that point that Keyes was assimilated and turned into a proto-gravemind or am I dumb
autumn urchin
How many marines were in the pillar of autumn?
light quail
Keyes was originally infected and turned into a combat form. However the Flood recognized his importance and merged him with several others into a proto-gravemind
keep in mine that we find him in the Truth and Reconciliation
So i think its safe to assume that the time it took to travel there and Keyes's consciousness during the event along with some help from "The Flood", Keyes was probably assimilated around the Two Betrayals mission
@autumn urchin There was approximately 1000 Crewman, 800 marines, and 400 ODST within the Pillar of Autumn
terse lava
Poor bugger
carmine sleet
There's also a terminal in CEA which shows Keyes' struggled to withhold information from the Flood
fresh vortex
are there only 2 smg variants?
carmine sleet
There's many variations of the SMG. Halo 5 features a whole bunch of them
inner basin
Yes there are only two base variants, unless you want to count the M7S SMG from ODST a base variant
The M7S SMG is a suppressed SMG btw
fresh vortex
yeah ik
it derived from the M7 after all
and is the MA5 series the only service rifle that can receive an under mounted attachment like grenade launcher or shotgun?
carmine sleet
There's likely other SMG makes that exist outside of the two we already know. We just haven't seen them yet
fresh vortex
i’m just imagining an smg with a barrel mounted grenade launcher
inner basin
I would like an SMG with a magazine that’s fed from the bottom personally
versed helm
smg with a mounted spartan laser
terse lava
odd
random cradle
A smg with a mounted warthog in the top of the smg
terse lava
Were it so easy...
I wonder if brutes have any non blood-related sports
everything we have seen shows them either getting maimed, or cut
versed helm
merry chiefsmas everyone
versed helm
jiralhane and no blood sports.....
highly unlikely
never forget the peeing brute in halo 3
versed helm
how sweet
random cradle
Did you see the faimily of monkeys in the first mission in 3
terse lava
they were odd
versed helm
they seemed nice
terse lava
Kinda
terse lava
brute gets poo thrown at him
versed helm
can someone tell me how to make text go bold in dsicord?
terse lava
Idk how
versed helm
brute throws plasma grenades
wicked pasture
bold?
stoic hamlet
Two *
wicked pasture
Yea
fading dagger
I remember my first couple times through Nightfall, my primary stray was to sticky each kuta. It worked great, it’s like hitting the broad side of the barn, later found out it was overkill.
unique rune
**bold**
random cradle
||like this||
terse lava
Was sad we didn't see more covenant facing native lifeforms.in reach
wicked pasture
fights moa
fresh vortex
how do the backpacks work? like jorge’s backpack? is there any development lore on that kind of stuff
terse lava
Likely some neural interface to activate it
quaint hearth
in halo 3 four player co-op, who are the other two elites with arbiter and master chef
terse lava
Ntho sraom and Usze Tamam
quaint hearth
usze tamam sound like hes in my family
random cradle
Who else would like to see sharqiu in infinite
wicked pasture
I mean they did destroy Suraka so we know some still exist
gilded mason
"Oh, hey, nice to see you alive."
"Thanks, keep up the good work."
wicked pasture
It’d be nice if gray team was there aswell
versed helm
it'd be nice if all teams were there
the super ultimate mash up
to face off against evil cortana
wicked pasture
All the Spartans back together again
versed helm
and her promethean army
wicked pasture
Halo infinite super co-op
versed helm
HOLY HECK MAYBE THAT'S WHY ITS INFINITE
ALL THE HALO MULTIVERSES COMING TOGETHER
FOR THE MOST EPIC SHOWDOWN EVER
AND IT WORKS ON THE BUTTERFLY EFFECT, SO THERE'S DIFFERENT ENDINGS
gilded mason
Oh you.
wicked pasture
Halo infinite but they deploy all the remaining spartans
fair hazel
Ease on that all caps.. @versed helm
fresh vortex
what’s the role behind spartan specializations and the missions they go on
more specifically for spartan III’s
carmine sleet
Unknown
versed helm
chief goes on the autumn
carmine sleet
We don't know all the survivors
wicked pasture
Technically chief was never on reach
wicked pasture
The rest of blue team
terse lava
Yea, pretty limited list there
terse lava
indeed
versed helm
too bad the chief was also thorough
terse lava
Didn't really do much, as some of the sangheili said during halo 2, "Where were you demon, when we burned your planet?"
you know, I wonder how truth got the sangheili in his private fleet of 500 ships to go along with being commanded by jiralhanae
gilded mason
He channeled Todd Howard and told them sweet little lies.
terse lava
I believe it
fresh vortex
what kinds of missions do tracker specialists go on?
gilded mason
Though apparently (according to Halopedia):
Due to Truth's devious plans for the Covenant, this fleet was commanded exclusively by the Jiralhanae and featured only few Sangheili in its ranks
fresh vortex
same for pathfinder spartans
unique rune
If there's not any mention of it on Halopedia, then chances are we don't know.
So I would suggest looking at those pages first.
inner basin
The more I read through the Battle of Reach on Halopedia as a refresher, it really is a reminder of just how much of a massacre it was, for both sides
versed helm
aye
one of the strongest covenant fleet attacked UNSC's second strongest stronghold
anything less than a massacre on both sides would have meant instant death.
inner basin
It was actually UNSC’s strongest stronghold, not second strongest
wicked pasture
Earth was stronger
inner basin
I don’t think it was. The Epsilon Eridani sustem had a larger amount of assets than the Sol System because nothing else stood between the Covenant and Earth. Well at least in terms of infantry anyways as there were more military complexes on Reach than anywhere else
unique rune
Earth had a larger network of ODPs, if I remember correctly, but yeah, in general Reach was considered to be a more important military asset.
inner basin
It can be argued that after Reach fell, Earth was stronger without a doubt
keen canopy
@versed helm Marcus Stacker and Buck also survived Reach
As well as Johnson and all the PoA's crew.
inner basin
There were probably others who got off but at an earlier time during the battle. IIRC Marines and other infantry were order to pull out. Before New Alexandria was glassed.
keen canopy
"We've all got orders to evacuate... guess some of us don't like leaving a job half finished"
inner basin
Pretty much that line was my reference
I imagine they evacuated after the last ship at Starport Exit was away
unique rune
Huh.
Never noticed that one of the interior scenes of the Anodyne Spirit in the Uprising comic matches a room from the Threshold gas mine pretty much exactly.
keen canopy
The author probably just asked for some Forerunner interiors (for inspiration)
And at that point in time, the gas mine was one of the most detailed bungie had
unique rune
Yeah, that's most likely what happened.
Just found it kinda interesting.
keen canopy
Lore-wise there's no way a Kepship and a Gas mine would have such similar interiors, especially with the amount of variation we see in Forerunner architecture in general.
unique rune
Hm. Looks like one of the rooms from the Ark in Halo 3 was also used for reference.
versed helm
Yall ever woned how comfy mjolnir is on the inside
Like is it padded with some comfy pillows
inner basin
Well it definitely isn’t comfortable for non-augmented personnel
I can say that for sure
fair hazel
its definitely not padded with comfy pillows
light quail
It’s padded with the blood of the Covenant =3
inner basin
I wonder if Elites could wear a Mjolnir armour variant, obviously shaped to fit them
lunar condor
I mean probably? Its just body shape
inner basin
I was talking about if it would kill them or not. Obviously the shape and size wouldn’t be an issue
gilded mason
I suppose the finer reflexive aspects could be fine-tuned if the vanilla version is too much, I guess.
inner basin
It would be interesting for an Elite in Mjolnir to roll up and Marines are like a “Woah! A Spartan!” Then the Elites turns its head and says “Wort! Wort! Wort!” Then runs into battle
gilded mason
If marines mistake an Elite for a Spartan that close up, then I worry for their eyesight.
inner basin
Well I mean the Mjolnir wouldn’t be a slim fit per say
gilded mason
The leg and neck/head shape would be very different
inner basin
Could be a bulkier suit, similar to the size of the Mk. I
terse lava
Just throw a jiralhanae in it
inner basin
There muscular structure can probably support it
maiden flame
wouldn't the positive feedback loop of a mjolnir suit do the same thing to an elite that it did to that one marine referenced in halsey's journal?
keen canopy
Yes, Elites don't have near the same reflexes of an augmented Spartan.
maiden flame
well, like beast said, their musculature is different than that of your average marine or odst, so maybe they could slightly counter the positive feedback loop. maybe. but with no AI i feel like they wouldn't be able to take advantage of everything the suit could do. there is also the matter of the reflexes
umbral citrus
[lifts arm, knocks self unconscious]
keen canopy
Well to be clear, there's absolutely zero chance a Sangheili could fit in a Mjolnir suir designed fo human physiology.
And even if it were a Sangheili version with identical functionality, they'd still need augmentation to use the suit safely.
The end result though, would be significantly stronger than a human in Mjolnir.
gilded mason
Yes, Elites don't have near the same reflexes of an augmented Spartan.
Then again, judging by Rtas' feats in Shadow of Intent, their speed and reflexes are apparently also pretty extreme.
keen canopy
They're extreme compared to unaugmented humans yeah
umbral citrus
it's just whether the amount of effort is worth it when they're already out here tanking machine gun fire
maiden flame
i mean, the covies went through the trouble of taming the hunters
seems like they are the type to spare no expense
umbral citrus
how do you find out a bunch of worms make a giant APC like how bored were covenant scientists
terse lava
Dony forget Usze ran so fast carrying vale things looked like a blur to her. He also punted a gazelle out of the way
unique rune
Lekgolo naturally grouped into colonies when threatened.
umbral citrus
[points a gun at a bunch of worms to make a tank]
unique rune
Once those were weaponized, it was just a matter of "how big can we go?"
umbral citrus
"that's no moon, it's a lekgolo colony"
terse lava
Imagine how very intelligent that colinymwould be
unique rune
"It's too big for us to use in combat but it's great for math problems"
keen canopy
Elites in combat harnesses a lot closer to Spartans than they are to Marines fir example
gilded mason
In Shadow of Intent, Rtas and Tul were able to use their energy blades to deflect every shot from more than a dozen Yanme'e firing at them with plasma pistol and needle rifles. Somebody calculated all that to find out they'd have to deflect around 25 rounds a second each. And that's if they didn't fire very often. Quite the feat.
terse lava
@gilded masonwho calculated that
keen canopy
And that's why they'd be insane in Mjolnir
random cradle
Yes @keen canopy they where very similar to Spartans and that’s why the humans thought they where fighting a losing war
terse lava
Ok
keen canopy
However they were wearing Combat Harnesses in that scene no?
random cradle
There where a group of super soildrr elites
terse lava
Don't think they were, just ranger suits
keen canopy
@random cradle they're still very clearly below Spartans. They can be close to Spartans in power level while still being clearly below
@terse lava My mistake i meant combat harnesses
Which provide some augmentation
random cradle
@keen canopy yes they where but they where much stronger than marines
keen canopy
Indeed
random cradle
Sharkoui in the other hand where much stronger and bigger than Spartans and elites
terse lava
They were also borderline uncontrollable by the covenant
random cradle
Imagin if the flood got a hold of the sharqoui
gilded mason
Though an Elite was able to kick a Sharquoi off a ledge.
Actually, wait, that doesn't really mean much, I suppose.
keen canopy
Elites also have more variability. The cream of the crop elites can essentially match up Spartans. Whereas all Spartans are absolute weapons.
random cradle
The sharquoi are 2 times taller than elites and are 5m tall so they are giants compared to the giants that are elites
umbral citrus
alien heights are mad like the perspective of being 7ft tall in game makes you not realise you'd probably be face to face height with like, a jackal
terse lava
You'd be face to face with a grunt
keen canopy
Jackals are taller, heavier and stronger than marines. They also have teeth and claws.
carmine sleet
Their bones are brittle though so you could easily snap them
umbral citrus
"if a jackal was tearing out my ribcage i would simply snap their feeble bones"
gilded mason
Not really
keen canopy
If they sit there and let you sure
gilded mason
That one Meridian book disproves it
carmine sleet
Oh, really? I did not know that
keen canopy
Eagles and hawks have brittle bones, I'd like to see you snap their bones
carmine sleet
Thanks for the correction, Ostral
carmine sleet
Roger that. I believe I have one of the Meridian novels on my Christmas list so hopefully I'll be getting one of them tomorrow
terse lava
The kig-yar?
carmine sleet
Kig-yar is the actual name of the Jackals
terse lava
Yea
Well, actually no
Technically
The only race whose name we truly know are the sangheili. Everyone else named was their name in the sangheili language
terse lava
@smoky nexusi was talking of those in the covenant
smoky nexus
My fault
terse lava
On the 2nd part, fair enough
versed helm
is there a lore explanation for the gravity hammer being in campaign in halo 4
carmine sleet
No
gilded mason
Uh
carmine sleet
I like to see it as a hammer that one of Jul's Covenant found at some point and they gave it to the Didact so that he could use it as his personal weapon
And it's not really a lorebreaking thing for a hammer to be on the Mantle's Approach
There's many grav hammers out there
gilded mason
It is not lorebreaking.
carmine sleet
What would be lore breaking is if Arbiter was suddenly a Grunt
umbral citrus
next arbiter is just a grunt wearing a fake moustache
carmine sleet
I meant the character that we know as the Arbiter. He's an Elite and will always be an Elite
versed helm
Hol up
There was a discussion about if elites could use a modified version of the mjolnir armor
And i realized how cool it would be to see arby in a personalized version of the mjolnir made for elites
umbral citrus
elites are tall enough we don't need to give them armoured laboutins
hollow meadow
We need to give the noodle arms like the the Gregg in the box!
versed helm
G I V E’E M D A T P O W E R A R M O R
hollow meadow
You mean just armor
versed helm
N O
carmine sleet
Power armour is way cooler than normal armour
hollow meadow
It ain't power armor if it lets them perform no different otherwise
Man, I can't use the rollsafe emote here. 🙁
Feels bad man
I wonder if there is a thing in Halo lore were Human communities protest to give rights to former Covenant species post-war
Like Sangheili rights movement
gilded mason
What kind of rights?
hollow meadow
Ones that don't involve persecution and potentional genocide
Something ONI seems to be working in odds against
I imagine some include anonymity and access to citizenship in human worlds after meeting achievable and fair requirements. Perhaps protection from human inovolvement in some reigons of the galaxy
wicked pasture
Carrow would be the best place for that
gilded mason
To be honest, I don't really see why some Sangheili went to Rio for asylum anyway.
hollow meadow
Maybe Rio in 500 years will be less crazy than it is today
You know what's a dumb place to seek asylum though?
New Pheonix.
umbral citrus
i mean earth probably would be a bit touchy anywhere considering they blasted half of africa to quarantine the flood
gilded mason
And there's a whole lotta Covenant colonies they could go to that would potentially be a lot less touchy.
wicked pasture
they also destroyed much of australia
gilded mason
Hm?
hollow meadow
Nah man, that's Zeon you're talking about
umbral citrus
no it just looks like that
the covenant, seeing australia: we're so sorry for the devastation... ozzies: nah mate it was like that when you got here
gilded mason
lol
maiden flame
lmao
hollow meadow
Convenant: What's with the big lake?
Aussies: That's where Syndey used to be before some fascists yeeted a space station into it
I'll stop with the Gundam jokes. I am comitting high-level cringe worthy of execution by the Prophets
gilded mason
rip HIGHCOM
Though Sydney was destroyed by the Created. Just using a ship instead of a station.
wicked pasture
The covenant also destroyed Sydney during the battle of earth
umbral citrus
hyper-intelligent AI: screw the opera house it looks terrible
hollow meadow
Even in Sci-Fi, Sydney is never safe
umbral citrus
343: we REALLY don't like sydney
oh that's what the warthog was doing there in forza horizon 2
pale quest
3*
umbral citrus
3
4 is the english countryside which you can also obliterate in a warthog
those stacked stone walls never stood a chance
hollow meadow
I want Jeremy Clarkson to drive a Warthog from Halo
Have Hammond and May take the gunner and passenger seats respectively
inner basin
Inagine if it was actually a loaded MG. Or if they can’t have that, at least the Troop Hog would be nice
terse lava
Sheesh, what am I saying that is being censored
Kinda sad we have not seen the Covenant
hm
Hornet
or
gilded mason
Oh
terse lava
ok
gilded mason
The dang ship
terse lava
Kinda sad we have not seen the Covenant equal of a small air transport
gilded mason
God. That's...stupid.
unique rune
We should all just switch to Morse code.
terse lava
feels like it at times
hm
least everyone knows what I am talking about
Think such a thing exists?
inner basin
I’m still confused. Can you dm me the word that’s caught in the censor?
potent cargo
It is a shame though
gilded mason
The famous ship flown by the smuggler.
potent cargo
But adds diversity to the vehicles
inner basin
Still lost...
potent cargo
Such as how the humans dont have a scarab
gilded mason
Yup
inner basin
The Spirit is probably the closest thing the Covies have to it
It has a turret and carries troops, but it’s not an exact equal, just somewhat similar
I wonder what an equivalent would look like though
terse lava
Well i met something smaller, like the air vehicle that replaces the hornet in Reach
or the hornet itself
unique rune
So... we’re talking about the UH-144.
Just to make sure I’m on the right page.
terse lava
yep
inner basin
Yeah
If you said that in the first place Ado, I would’ve known exactly what you had meant lol
terse lava
did try
inner basin
I know, dw I say the messages you sent that weren’t caught in the filter
unique rune
Hm. Well.
Not really any direct Covenant analogues...
inner basin
I feel like the UH-144 needs some sort of Covenant replica, but as for the Hornet, no, not really when you have Banshees and Seraphs. Kinda pointless imo
terse lava
I admit, I had hoped pre-halo 3 such a vehicle would appear to the hornet. Imagined it something like the vampire from HW, with compartments similar to what the h5 spirit did
inner basin
It is kinda obsolete, but then again the UNSC have Sparrowhawks, Hornets, Kestrels and Wasps, which all act rather similarly so there may be a chance
stoic hamlet
I still wanna see Skyhawks
random cradle
It’s crazy how many parts of the unsc and covenant don’t show in game like the vehicles and weapons
stoic hamlet
In-universe? They may have been, we just never saw them.
Out of Universe? because they didn’t exist yet.
terse lava
In universe, bungie said they suffered heavy losses at reach.
They apparently have a rather small population
halcyon remnant
They are the elite version of jackals
terse lava
Eh...kinda
halcyon remnant
Shocktroopers
terse lava
Yea I can go with that
versed helm
Covenant found reach by planting a tracker on a ship. How were there no protocols checking this before jumping home???
wicked pasture
this was the first time it had happened
stoic hamlet
Three different fleets found Reach independent of one another
wicked pasture
the majority of those ships found it because of the probe on Iroquois
unique rune
Covenant spy probes are small, softball or baseball-sized automaton machines
A probe that small on a spacefaring vessel is gonna be pretty dang hard to notice, especially if there's no way for the UNSC to track anything it broadcasts.
quaint hearth
do you think covenant celebrate christmas too?
versed helm
i think we discussed this
and how didact would be god, iso would be jesus, and librarian would be virgin mary
quaint hearth
oh. do you think the covenant have their own version of a hot pocket, or do they all drink nutrient nipple like grunts do?
terse lava
Likely similar things to various human cultures
...except the kig-yar, whose food looks like a horrible mesh mash of organs and eyes
quaint hearth
whoa. it would be awesome to eat a covenant hot pocket.
quaint hearth
a covenant hot pocket would be like purple. that would be awesome
versed helm
kig yar eat bugs
quaint hearth
thats normal
versed helm
unggoy have nutrient shakes from he l l
quaint hearth
i've had ice cream from mcdonalds before. it's no different
versed helm
who know what the leke golos eats
quaint hearth
tasty stuff
remote spruce
I wonder what Elite rations are like, I doubt it's all liquid
the worms are probably fed scrap metal
destroyed vehicle? already recycled
quaint hearth
i think elites would eat like a hot pocket-like ration. it would fit with mandibles
remote spruce
inb4 veggie hot pocket
fresh vortex
the SAS is out of commission for the modern unsc ?
feral perch
@versed helm In Halo 5, Exuberant Witness has a Hunter pair trapped in a room as part of her collection.
stray cobalt
only some hunter worms eat through artifacts, thats why the covenant employ hunters, they rounded up the ones that didn't eat forerunner tech and killed the rest
they wouldn't use a race that destroys the very things they seek to collect and revere
torn sedge
meager delta
merry Christmas
fair hazel
I like how there’s one of the ODSTs from the coke profile that you meet in halo 4.
The Cole protocol. But as a spartan
stoic hamlet
That’s really cool
random cradle
That’s sick
stoic hamlet
The Colonial Militia one is something like
“You fought with Avery Johnson? You know he trained me on Harvest.”
Or something like that.
fair hazel
I did hope for a bit more Johnson mentor ship in oblivion
stoic hamlet
I’m kind of glad he wasn’t involved
I would have preferred another ORION in his place during Silent Storm as well, tbh, but meh
potent cargo
Should not be rewatching deliver hope and we are odst trailers but man they're getting to me again
quick question to anyone who knows
At what time period (near which event) did ONI tell everyone chief was dead and did the whole killed a bunch of diplomats or ambassadors
maiden flame
i only have a basic grasp of what halo 5's story is supposed to be tbh
nimble pulsar
Haha me not even playing it yet after like 2 years of owning the game x x
potent cargo
Much obliged
versed helm
halo 5 is basically the weirdest meeting of a guy and his ex
with aliens, giant robots, AI, cool weaponry and all that
i've marked the story as spoilers. in case
||john gets a message from his ex to meet her at meridian||
||and john still loves her, so goes after her||
||but then locke, who knows cortana is also on meridian when john gets there||
||so locke and his gang go after cortana||
||and chief, who gets there before him, catches a ride to genisis, where cortana is||
||but she already has a new boyfriend, Warden Eternal, who gets pissed and tries to kill john and co.||
||cortana interferes, and tells warden to get lost||
||and then she locks up blue team in a magic closet||
||meanwhile, locke misses the ride to genisis on meridian||
||so he goes to sanghelios to get a ride from thel vadame||
||who's the head of the sword of sanghelios||
||but thel asks him to help kick out a rival gang from the city||
||so, fire team osiris catches the ride on sanghelios||
||and gets to meridian||
||where they meet the warden (AGAIN), who is now even more pissed.||
||but they somehow manage to rek him and continue on||
||on genisis, they meet a girl called exuberant witness, who was the coolest chick in town before cortana shifted in, and she helps them||
||so, fire team osiris finds the magic closet||
||but its being guarded by one of the warden's top gang members, the alpha guardian||
||with exuberant's help, they manage to get the magic closet before the alpha guardian can get away with it, and unlock it||
||then john goes and meets cortana's mom, catherine||
||and cortana goes to get a new ring||
versed helm
im marking it as spoilers in case somebody doesnt want to read it and wants to go through the story themselves
nimble pulsar
Big brain 
🧠
versed helm
indeed
terse lava
you know, when read like that....halo 5 has the plot of a typical anime
that explains...quite a lot actually
only thing it lacked was warden having a power up and final form
versed helm
o
terse lava
also @obsidian thistle quick question if you get the chance, where did halopedia get those mantra quotes for the various jiralhanae ranks?
fair hazel
Spoiler chat is not for that. And all of that was kind of annoying.
And really? Girlfriend boyfriend stuffs? No. Just no.
I’ll probably explain the story later, properly.
terse lava
you have to admit erickyboo, to the casual fans, it would almost appear romantic between chief and cortana
terse lava
greetings, and what's that?
maiden crest
Well
In halo reach it is shown that Halsey gives cortana to nobles who are basically S-3 but in battle of onyx it is shown that Halsey didn't have any clue about spartan 3's
wicked pasture
continuity
maiden crest
She didn't know abt spartan threes in novel battle if onyx
fair hazel
@maiden crest you’re going to have to change your name for server management purposes
gaunt oakBOT
maiden crest
But in halo reach broo
fair hazel
@terse lava just... no...
fair hazel
Change your name to normal characters
maiden crest
Okay...
fair hazel
Also Halsey didn’t know who those Spartans were
Her experience on reach probably made her even more curious on what files they were when she tried finding out more on onyx
terse lava
@fair hazel I agree with you on that, but plenty of times I have seen people not well versed in the lore come to that conclusion over the last decade and a half
maiden crest
But
fair hazel
Are i I ou a puppet or a spartan line.
It’s double purpose I believe. Assertion if they’re Spartans. And also establish that comment
maiden crest
In halo fall of reach it is stated that halsey delivered cortana to pillar of autumn by herself
But in the game noble six does that
fair hazel
That’s only a fragment of Cortana noble six had
fair hazel
Although yes yes halo reach did have conflicting issues but 343 tried fixing them.
maiden crest
When halsey gave him her fragment she left with jun
Did she head for pillar of autumn...
Bro
??
stoic hamlet
@terse lava and most of those fans are......really not invested in the lore except on a surface level. If you can even call that invested.
maiden crest
@stoic hamlet
stoic hamlet
Yeah?
maiden crest
Explain?
stoic hamlet
Explain what?
maiden crest
Your statement
stoic hamlet
It was a response to an earlier comment.
stoic hamlet
About the relationship between Cortana and John, and how less knowledgeable fans misinterpret their relationship.
maiden crest
I have got a question
stoic hamlet
I don’t consider myself an expert. But some seem to consider me one.
I can try to answer it.
stoic hamlet
An artificial intelligence fragment of her, yes.
maiden crest
But 343 guilty spark thinks she's alive
maiden crest
Oh
And did all forerunners die when halo array was fired or many of them left the galaxy...
stoic hamlet
A small number left the galaxy, but the majority died
maiden crest
So where are they
stoic hamlet
No worries
stoic hamlet
Yep
maiden crest
In 2558 are floods still present there
maiden crest
Yep
stoic hamlet
I think I know what triggered it, lol
maiden crest
What...
stoic hamlet
The name of a game that shares a word with a popular movie franchise, is my assumption.
maiden crest
Aww hell
Typed so much
And it just went
In halo wrs 2
The doc takes the new halo ring through slipspace and then she sees a guardian awakening...
Is it done by cortana
quaint hearth
is yap yap still alive
unique rune
Yapyap's status following whatever he does on Installation 00 is unknown.
quaint hearth
i bet he's still alive he's probably be halo chef's partner in infinite
unique rune
I... wouldn't bet on the latter, but... sure.
quaint hearth
king yap yap the destroyer of worlds
terse lava
not sure how canon he is
unique rune
His existence, units, and backstory are canon, IIRC. But that's really about it.
terse lava
well i met for example, when its pointed out that yapyap has goblins
unique rune
But wait, how did Yapyap get ahold of these incredible new machines and find time to modify them? Mind your own business is how.
polar elm
Do we have any sources or any extrapolation from existing sources describing the scale/range for naval engagements during the war?
severe lodge
I remember the Battle of Sigma Octanus IV and boarding of Ascendant Justice being quite detailed about ranges (in km) if that is what you are looking for
versed helm
It specifies the ranges in quite a few books
random cradle
Merry new year and have a happy Christmas
polar elm
@versed helm could you point me to some? I just can't recall where and I've had no luck foraging the wiki
fair hazel
Tens of thousands+ kilometers
versed helm
@polar elm Cole Protocol, First Strike, I think Fall of Reach, the Kilo Five trilogy
fair hazel
Hundred thousand too
versed helm
dude