#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 263

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 5:50 AM

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"you're on your own noble, carter out"

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 5:50 AM

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lol

sacred dew Dec 1, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Needed to pilot the pelican take out the scarab

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 5:51 AM

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but richard

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.

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wouldn't it just fly straight into the scarab eitherway

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no I mean right before it crashed

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I don't know

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I really hated emile's death

unique rune Dec 1, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Eh. The inertia of the Pelican probably would have been enough to carry it into the Scarab even without a pilot at a certain point.

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 5:51 AM

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he got too cocky

sacred dew Dec 1, 2019, 5:51 AM

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No he needed to turn it back

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 5:52 AM

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yeah

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but emile just sat there staring at the zealot

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"WHO'S NEXT"

sacred dew Dec 1, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Cloaking does affect radar

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 5:54 AM

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how did kat die so easily

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Needles are needley.

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 5:54 AM

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but

sacred dew Dec 1, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Shield was down and headshot is one hell of a drug

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 5:54 AM

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right

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shield was down from glassing?

sacred dew Dec 1, 2019, 5:55 AM

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The blast did knock them down and the shield didn't react to the shot

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Would have been better if it was a beam rifle though since one shot almost killed a Spartan

keen canopy Dec 1, 2019, 6:00 AM

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It's mostly the fact that their shields were down though

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Carbine would've also done the trick

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 6:01 AM

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too bad carbines weren't in reach

rancid delta Dec 1, 2019, 8:04 AM

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One blamite crystal can easily rupture organs

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Glassing also causes emp which disables shields

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So both of those were a perfect combination to kill Kay

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Kat

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Yup

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A few are required to cause a supercombine explosipn

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Explosion

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But 1 did the truck

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Trick

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Frick

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@versed helm not bothered

keen canopy Dec 1, 2019, 9:48 AM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Subanese_crystal

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@versed helm

ivory path Dec 1, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Why do spartans have dog tags (e.g. Jorge) if ONI wants them listed as MIA?

keen canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:15 AM

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@versed helm Well from the image of the Needlers and their ammunition next to one another, you can clearly see where the Needler Ammunition crystal enters the needler

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The large rock is ze ammo

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It's a crystal

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The Neelder itself carves the crystals internally when you reload

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It's easier to just carve out that crystal

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Rather than having loose needles that could easily break

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Yes, that's what I was referring to above

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It's okay, just trying to help man 😅

dim imp Dec 1, 2019, 10:19 AM

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I still don't know how one fires the needler

keen canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:20 AM

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https://www.halopedia.org/File:Needlers_and_Ammo.jpg

dim imp Dec 1, 2019, 10:20 AM

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But
There is no trigger

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Apparently homing is thermic thingy

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When you look at it, the needler doesn't seem to have that

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Yeah

keen canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:24 AM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Type-33_needler#Design_details

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Go here

dim imp Dec 1, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Or maybe... it detects the electricity sent by your brains to your fingers when you have the idea to fire the needler

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Thanks

keen canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Second paragraph in Design Details

dim imp Dec 1, 2019, 10:26 AM

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"how the weapon functions remains a mystery to human military experts and scientists."
That helps lmao

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A pressure thingy would have been easily discovered :/

stone jungle Dec 1, 2019, 5:25 PM

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hello

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 5:26 PM

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'Lo. Did ya have something on your mind?

stone jungle Dec 1, 2019, 5:27 PM

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keyes pretty much just picked one up

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if you see someone else use a gun then your 50% there
just because video games third person animation times and first person animation times don't sync in
Real time in some video games doesn't affect how "in reality, the functions would, well, Function

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in CE the needeler model has no trigger streamlining that design choice was brought in later, when the HD resolution games came (Reach, 4, 5)

meager delta Dec 1, 2019, 7:07 PM

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helmet

stone jungle Dec 1, 2019, 7:12 PM

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this is odd, does the needeler have a promethian/forerunner counterpart... or the human armouries for that matter

carmine sleet Dec 1, 2019, 7:14 PM

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The closest thing that humanity has is the machine gun on the Sword Needler Hog, since that's a modified weapon that uses Blamite rounds

balmy turtle Dec 1, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Are the Covies immune to radioactivity?

carmine sleet Dec 1, 2019, 7:46 PM

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You mean radiation?

terse lava Dec 1, 2019, 8:12 PM

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1the needle was apparently one of s few covenant weapons not created from forerunner tech

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Yeah, it's an original.

terse lava Dec 1, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Plasma rifle too

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 8:33 PM

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How do you figure

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Hm. This line on its Waypoint article might suggest that it was first created before they started adding any Forerunner upgrades or additions:
The Plasma Rifle has been a feature of the Sangheili warrior class for millennia, with the earliest versions used long before the formation of the Covenant.

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Interesting

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I mean I'd buy that

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The plasma rifle is iconic as heck

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It defines the Covenant like the MA5 does the UNSC, so it's serendipitous that it'd be born of the Sangheili's own ingenuity.

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Yeah

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I like the thought

terse lava Dec 1, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Yep even broken circle mentions how the rifle resembles a sangheili mouth

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 9:14 PM

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It's from The Mona Lisa

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Over long periods of time working around plasma

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All the Covenant species

unique rune Dec 1, 2019, 9:15 PM

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The bot doesn’t seem to like you today.

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Have developed

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A passive

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Ah

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Um

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Natural protection

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Yikes, these filters.

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Against the radiation emitted by plasma weapons

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HAH

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As if that's gonna stop spoilers

stone jungle Dec 1, 2019, 9:16 PM

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remember when you just saw the initial model and thought
it's a glowing metal stick in the gun so it fires from that part
non of that electromagnetic intricate system-locking, tracing aimed gun with
a bible's-worth of lore strapped to it like a grunt on granaids

versed helm Dec 1, 2019, 9:16 PM

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It's such a joke

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Yeah

unique rune Dec 1, 2019, 9:17 PM

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It’s pretty ineffectual and painful to work with but it’ll probably deter at least a couple idiots.

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I still don’t understand what it was about Anodyne Spirit that ticked the bot off a while back though

stone jungle Dec 1, 2019, 9:19 PM

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this is a wierd thing to say request but do forerunner weapones Have to be orenge...
like it would be cool to customise them

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like as a decal

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 9:20 PM

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this is a wierd thing to say request but do forerunner weapones Have to be orenge...```
Probably not. Hard light has had different colors in use before.

stone jungle Dec 1, 2019, 9:21 PM

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but it's digital

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it's a computed thing right

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the promethians can seem to change colour

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so can monitors

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not all of those are blue

unique rune Dec 1, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Presumably they could be different colors in-universe.

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Forerunner and Promethean tech is highly modifiable if what we know of their production process is anything to go off of.

stone jungle Dec 1, 2019, 9:23 PM

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i think it's a rank or faction-of-forerunner thing

unique rune Dec 1, 2019, 9:23 PM

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They’re probably stuck in the red-orange glow range for the games for the sake of easy identification.

gilded mason Dec 1, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Indeed

stone jungle Dec 1, 2019, 9:25 PM

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what do you think:
slot 1 = overpaint ( emblems, clan icons, xbox logos, sponcer-ship icons)
slot 2 = Decoration (patterns, shapes chevrons, sport-lines)
slot 3 = Light/bullet colour (RGB)
slot 4 = base paint colour

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seems elaborate but then people would warm up to the guns

feral perch Dec 1, 2019, 9:29 PM

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I don’t think Covenant weapons emit any kind of damaging radiation anyway

balmy turtle Dec 1, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Any of the races, really.

radiant sphinx Dec 1, 2019, 9:41 PM

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The glassing beams emit an incredible amount of radiation, I’m assuming it’s ionizing as well

balmy turtle Dec 1, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Just wondering which of the races could go un fazed by the Elephant's Foot.

radiant sphinx Dec 1, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Maybe lekgolo

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Maybe not

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Wonder how Reactor 4 is doing 550 years in the future

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Use your words

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The war of stars

carmine sleet Dec 1, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Because of the film that comes this month, that's why it's sensored

radiant sphinx Dec 1, 2019, 9:44 PM

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And the movie releasing later

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There’s a bunch of leaks

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And 343 wants to prevent spoilers

balmy turtle Dec 1, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Does the lore go into how 21st century problems are solved between now and 2552?

radiant sphinx Dec 1, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I think in very few aspects

balmy turtle Dec 1, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I can understand that, wayyyy too much to cover.

carmine sleet Dec 1, 2019, 9:47 PM

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We know there's a cure for cancer

balmy turtle Dec 1, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Seriously?

radiant sphinx Dec 1, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Oh yeah

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In Heart of Midlothian the ship AI puts the protagonist to sleep for surgery to remove a tumor

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And claimed it’s a super primitive or easy to treat disease

carmine sleet Dec 1, 2019, 9:50 PM

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If only that was the case in our current day and age

radiant sphinx Dec 1, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Right

balmy turtle Dec 1, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Is there any glimpse as to how human civilization is like around that time?

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In general.

radiant sphinx Dec 1, 2019, 9:51 PM

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In the 26th century?

balmy turtle Dec 1, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Yes

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Could it be compared to any movie?

radiant sphinx Dec 1, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I mean we see quite a few cities across the games

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They’re not radically different from ones today

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Other than ones like New Phoenix and Mombasa

carmine sleet Dec 1, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Buildings are more curved than they are today. Just look at New Alexandria on Reach

radiant sphinx Dec 1, 2019, 9:54 PM

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A lot more postmodernism

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Sleeker buildings etc

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Anyone have pictures of one of the comics that confirm the Cortana in H5 are fragments?

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I know it was posted here before, but I can't find it now. Some guy on Reddit is claiming it's a fan theory when it's already been confirmed as fact.

deep pewter Dec 2, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Dominion Splinter is the name at the very least

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 1:09 AM

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You know, I wonder what passea.for entertainment in covenant culture. Sermons obviously but wondering if there would be more. Holo movies of ancient heros? Tales told of the covenant founding, horror movies based on the flood

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 1:10 AM

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It'd be pretty cool to see more things from a Covenant civilian point of view.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Yes, we get human ones all the time

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Even forerunner

feral perch Dec 2, 2019, 1:10 AM

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They had celebrations for San’Shyuum birthing season

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 1:11 AM

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True, but that's more a holiday then just every day life

radiant sphinx Dec 2, 2019, 1:26 AM

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So I'm assuming The Created are able to thwart the "Undid Iridium" password/backdoor into their system

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Probably, yeah.

radiant sphinx Dec 2, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Major ouch

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They're just computers in the end

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Pour some water on them

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Or have them play with magnets

feral perch Dec 2, 2019, 1:29 AM

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but neural physics

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Yes.

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Neural

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~~Physcis~~ Physics

balmy hinge Dec 2, 2019, 1:37 AM

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RIP the Rookie

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 1:37 AM

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neural psychics

ebon blaze Dec 2, 2019, 5:04 AM

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Hello

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 5:05 AM

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'Lo. Did you want to discuss something?

ebon blaze Dec 2, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Just wanted to see what’s on everyones mind

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And discuss the time inconsistencies with the first trilogy of books

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Wasnt the only major one the time travel due to the crystal?

keen canopy Dec 2, 2019, 5:48 AM

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That's what I thought also, unless you're talking about the inconsistencies between The Flood and CE

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As for what's on my mind

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REACH IN A MATTER OF HOURS BABY

stoic hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Yey

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Around 36 hours, I believe?

sacred dew Dec 2, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Yeah

stoic hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Plasma is arguably best

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But a good SAP-HE round probably isn’t bad either

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 6:24 AM

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Covenant plasma... yeah, it pretty much burns through most things.

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Burns through flesh pretty cleanly.

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Some Forerunner weapons incorporate anti-matter into their ammunition, like the Incineration Cannon.

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Same with the Binary Rifle.

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Hence the disintegration effect produced when you kill an enemy with them.

stoic hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 6:38 AM

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The suppressor would be effective in the sense that it’s a hail of hard light bolts.

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Not as effective as dedicated Plasma

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But still effective

last anchor Dec 2, 2019, 6:49 AM

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The Suppressor would probably be best for dealing with hordes of Infection Forms. Spam that down a corridor and watch it tear through everything.

atomic hawk Dec 2, 2019, 7:42 AM

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OKay I have a quick question

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Is the M145D Rhino fully canon?

remote spruce Dec 2, 2019, 7:43 AM

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yes

atomic hawk Dec 2, 2019, 7:44 AM

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can I have some proof (I'm in a halo argument in another server about this)

remote spruce Dec 2, 2019, 7:45 AM

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https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/canon-fodder-clarity-grace

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one of the questions in here is about the rhino

keen canopy Dec 2, 2019, 9:20 AM

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lmao RIP whoever was trying to make that argument...

sacred dew Dec 2, 2019, 12:42 PM

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For the flood just never try using the sniper rifle because there insides are liquefied the round over penetrates and does no damage

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 1:43 PM

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@atomic hawk https://www.halopedia.org/M145D_Rhino

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could've just linked this instead

dim imp Dec 2, 2019, 1:54 PM

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You can still headshot them with precision weapons though

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Shoot the infection form in the chest

fiery oar Dec 2, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Quick question how many spartans II are alive ?

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I had a list a while back.
Might be slightly outdated.

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 2:30 PM

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As of 2559, there's the four members of Blue Team, all of Grey Team, Red Team from the Spirit of Fire, Naomi-010 and Omega Team (Although we have some that are unnamed from that team) but even with that, we don't know if that's all of them

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And that's not including those who retired or washed out/crippled when augmented

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No

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Jai-006
Naomi-010 (Naomi Sentzke)
Douglas-042 (Douglas Rutland)
Linda-058 (Linda Pravdin)
Kelly-087 (Kelly Shaddock)
Jerome-092 (Jerome Cable)
Frederic-104 (Frederic Ellsworth)
Adriana-111
John-117
Mike-120
Alice-130 (Alice Treske)```
Looks like this list I made is a bit old.
Leaves out the confirmed survivors of Omega.

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 2:32 PM

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not that we know of

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but everyone dies of age eventually. It's just that spartans haven't had a chance to get that old

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 2:33 PM

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They were used to replace candidates when they were kids

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Genetic imperfections, IIRC.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Yep

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Basically, the cloning in Halo is nowhere near as advanced as it is in other sci-fi franchises

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 2:33 PM

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The flash cloning process isn't flawless, and is generally only used for making replacement organs.

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Flash cloning an entire human being...

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Is not recommended

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Yes

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Yeah, the ethics of cloning a mostly functional human are... questionable.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Why wouldn't they be self aware? They are only not aware of being clones

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Ok, not sure what word I used then that got caught but it's not a big deal

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S-023 was able to speak with her clone before they died

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 2:36 PM

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the flash clones were given the memories of their originals

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but that was a separate process iirc

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I wonder how useful clones even have been had they been completely flawless

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 2:38 PM

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useful?

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Indeed

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Someone would find the best possible human and make an army of clones illegally most likely

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Spartans do suffer trauma, Donk, they just don't process it like they should do

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Spartans can be traumatized. B091 was mute for years after Op. Torpedo.

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 2:40 PM

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i don't understand what you mean by "useful", ado

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 2:40 PM

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We've already seen that happen, Donk, with S-023, as I mentioned before

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 2:40 PM

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do you judge a human by their usefulness to others?

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 2:42 PM

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You also have to take into account that just because the original is useful in one field, the clones might not

fiery oar Dec 2, 2019, 2:57 PM

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ty guys ❤️

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Not all Flash clones suffered the same fates as others did.

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Some of them were just disabled due to the cloning malfunctions, others died in under a month.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 5:54 PM

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@humble yacht I should have worded that better. I was referring to if humanity could make flawless clones, whether they would let them live their own lives or throw them into the meatgrinder of war like the grand army from a certain popular movie franchise

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 5:56 PM

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@terse lava In the Halo universe cloning an entire human being is highly illegal. We don't know how long of a prison sentence you'd serve if you did flash clone an entire human being in the Halo universe, but expect something like 20 years- to life.

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It was said that if Halsey created a "clone" of an entire human brain of herself in order to replicate the same neural functions, she could've survived rampancy.

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 5:58 PM

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whut

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 5:58 PM

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"Three specimens were placed in cryogenic suspension until a future time when technological advancements made Halsey's plans for them possible. The use of a clone and memory transfer allowed Halsey to provide a brain used for the mapping of the AI's "mind" with no undue effects on the donor.
Despite this advantage, the cloning of a human being, particularly for this purpose, is highly illegal and unethical."

"Cortana showed a belief that repeating this process could be used to recompile her neural network and end her rampancy, but this was never tested."

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 5:59 PM

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yes, it was an idea she had but it was just an idea

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she didn't know if it would work

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 5:59 PM

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which is why I said "it was said"

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 5:59 PM

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ultimately we never even got to see if it would

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:00 PM

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tbh I'm curious about those 3 specimens Halsey placed in cryogenic suspension.

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Wonder if they'll come up again with Halo Infinite, considering it more or less has been confirmed we have another "Cortana" in Infinite.

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I doubt it

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I wouldn't be surprised if ONI destroyed them or locked them away upon Halsey's arrest

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I highly doubt ONI destroyed them, considering it was even stated ONI took them under there own "care" so

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along with ONI having full knowledge as to what Halsey was doing at the time

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:04 PM

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where is that stated?

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:04 PM

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...when they raided Halsey's corridors and took everything? including Halsey's own personal journal?

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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You said "at the time"

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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right around when the Covenant was glassing Reach

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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that suggests ONI knew Halsey was making illegal clones while she was doing it

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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yes, ONI had full knowledge as to what Halsey was doing. They knew about the S-II program and all of it

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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they knew about the SII program but where is it said they knew about Cortana?

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and how she made her?

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and whether they just ignored it

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:06 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Catherine_Halsey

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"Afterward, the brass in Section Three instructed Halsey to destroy any prototype routines—an order which she promptly ignored." when testing Cortana

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ONI also arranged the cloning process btw
"This time, however, she enhanced their neural physiology at the expense of other biological functions. She made sure the equipment was hidden and secure from all save herself, though the cloning had been arranged by ONI at her insistence."

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:13 PM

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i think the more relevant line is
She made sure the equipment was hidden and secure from all save herself, though the cloning had been arranged by ONI at her insistence. As such, there were a few others who also knew about it, but she was confident that these particular individuals could be trusted to keep the information secret

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One thing I'm not seeing anymore in Cortana's wiki entry is when she removed the kill codes in her matrix all by herself, much to Halsey's surprise

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was this retconned?

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nevermind, I see it

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I think that might've been because I don't remember seeing that anywhere at all to begin with. All I saw was what Halsey was unaware as to whether or not Cortana had "isolated/bypassed" the kill codes in her kernel.

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aka she didn't know

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if you need me to show you the page of the book that says this I can btw

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:18 PM

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i'm fine

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I have the journal at home anyway

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I guess "I'm fine" doesn't mean the same thing to you as it does to me

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:24 PM

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read what I said afterwards

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future references

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cause I know that comes up here a couple of times

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 6:42 PM

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I kinda wish 343i would re-release the Journal again. Its a great read.

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Shame its going to get even more buried with the MCC release of Halo Reach. (A unfortunate consequence of that)

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:44 PM

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buried?

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 6:49 PM

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As in less people are going to legit get Halo Reach on 360 (even less than before the Limited Edition) because its better and more accessible on PC, X1, and Windows Store. Which means less people will read the Journal by default.

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Call it the Limited Edition Lore curse xD

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:49 PM

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but you needed a Legendary Edition of Reach to get the journal

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Nope

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:49 PM

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no, just the limited edition.

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:49 PM

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oh

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Limited Edition and Legendary Edition had it

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:49 PM

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well, a special edition

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Legendary Edition gave you the statue and a few other things the Limited edition didn't have

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:50 PM

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but I don't see how MCC coming to PC buries the journal any more than it already is

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:50 PM

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basically the Limited edition was just the box with the journal, Elite officer code and a special recon attachment.
Legendary was all that and more

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Oh it just gives people less reason to get an edition with the Journal tbh.

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:51 PM

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if anything, with PC players now getting access to halo, it seems that more people will become interested in the lore and thus will search for the info the journal contains

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I kinda wish 343i would re-release the journal as it's own separate thing, even on Audible or Amazon audio books/kindle stuff, like that.
But keep the same style format, pictures, etc

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:51 PM

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lol, at this point, getting an editon with the journal is not worth it

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scalpers probably gouging people for it now

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Thats kinda my point. XD

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Well an extended point also

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:52 PM

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that's independent of MCC on PC tho

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scalpers gonna scalp no matter what

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I'd take them releasing a PDF of the journal honestly, would be nice to delve into it fully in some form

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:52 PM

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not exactly, on Ebay you can buy the entire limited edition for about $20

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with the book and all

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:52 PM

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that's wierd

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seems non legit

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:52 PM

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codes probably used but who cares about the codes at this point

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nope, fully legit

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 6:52 PM

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i'm pressing X to doubt

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I do still wish 343i would re-release it somehow. Seeing as its legit is a big part of Halo lore.

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:53 PM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Halo-Reach-XBOX-360-Limited-Edition-Black-Box-Set-Halsey-Personal-Journal-MINT/264547397278?epid=172637484&

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wouldn't really call this "mint" but I mean yea, you can.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Halo-Reach-Limited-Edition-Microsoft-Xbox-360-2010-with-Box-and-Extras/312870386881?

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here's another one

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some are selling it for $30 and $40 though

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 6:55 PM

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The bigger shame is the Legendary Editions lore. Seeing as its one of the "biggest" hints to 2600s lore we have.

warm ridge Dec 2, 2019, 6:56 PM

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actually I'll stop posting limited edition ebay links in the lore channel lol

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A full complete Legendary edition of Reach is much harder to find though unless your willing to shell out some $$$

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 7:10 PM

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@warm ridge I was aware of the illegality of cloning

still ibex Dec 2, 2019, 9:30 PM

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has any known spartan been killed by the flood?

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Not yet.

merry island Dec 2, 2019, 9:48 PM

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There would be havoc class nuclear warheads and mac cannons involved if it ever happens.

fair hazel Dec 2, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Orion counts?

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 9:57 PM

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@merry islandsourve?

fair hazel Dec 2, 2019, 9:58 PM

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If you count, then maybe Byrne. He may have been Orion and he may have fallen to the flood

merry island Dec 2, 2019, 9:58 PM

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I watched it in a HiddenXperia video

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hold up let me pull it up

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Byrne is a oddity.

merry island Dec 2, 2019, 10:00 PM

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https://youtu.be/t2Ei3yv0F0k

obsidian thistle Dec 2, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Tbh I still to hear the dialogue where he is apparently referenced in Halo 3

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Spartan Field Manual:
Declaration of the cryptonym CORRUPTER on the battlenet indicates that a Spartan has been infected by the Flood, safeguards failed, and weapons of mass destruction have been authorized for immediate release [...] CORRUPTER protocol dictates containment and immediate bombardment with orbital MAC strikes and fusion warheads; evacuation may not be possible in some situations.

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Seems...just a bit overkill.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:08 PM

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"One single flood spore can destroy a species. Were it not for the Arbiter's council, I would gave glasses your entire planet" sounds about right for the human equalivlent if this was the Covenant protocal

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Nuke the whole site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Yep

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I suppose. I was wondering about the context of the infection, since Spartan IVs have been facing Flood in more out-of-the-way installations (I assume). And if it'd be really necessary in that case. Or whatever.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I am assuming that if a Spartan has been infected, things have gotten pretty far pretty fast

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Spartans are only mortals, all ya need is to not pay attention at a critical time or make one mistake.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Pretty much

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:13 PM

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And well, a Spartan getting infected wouldn't be any worse than an Elite gettin' infected, really.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Agreed, but unlike the covenant, who have untold billions of sangheili, humanity only have so many Spartans

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Time to reduce those numbers even more...

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Well apparently it is worse

merry island Dec 2, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I feel like infected elites in games are nerfed a tad bit.

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:15 PM

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100 infected elites: send in one spartan
1 infected spartan: bomb the place with no evacuation

dull fox Dec 2, 2019, 10:16 PM

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where a spartan really excels is their tactical ability and quick thinking, which the flood wouldn't be able to utilize

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:16 PM

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That's my point. It's overkill, considering Elite Flood can be dealt with like any other

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Maybe Spartans are just more threatening. 😏

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:16 PM

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no u

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Tell that to reach

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In seriousness though it's probly to prevent the flood from gaining advanced technology

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Lol, Covies glass a planet and what happens? 1 spartan causes the downfall of their whole organization

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Well, it's too late for that once they're infected. 'Cause now it's in their 'cloud'.

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Sounds like game, set, match

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:18 PM

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I believe that was the Fleet of Retribution, my good man. 😎

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:18 PM

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After how many planets became glass balls?

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Yeah I doubt it’s to prevent flood assimilating the knowledge

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Because by the time the bombs come, the knowledge is assimilated

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But maybe the UNSC just doesn’t know how flood consciousness works

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Ye

merry island Dec 2, 2019, 10:19 PM

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people just wanna blow things up

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:19 PM

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same tbh fam

rancid delta Dec 2, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Spartans are a combination of strength and smarts

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If it is infected, it's like a super powered pure form

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:26 PM

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I wouldn't go that far

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 10:26 PM

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It wouldn't be a pure form for a start

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Installation 09's brand new, so what could be on it that's so cherished? All I can think of is something must've moved onto the ring at some point, and that something is important

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Why do you think something cherished is there?

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 10:27 PM

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...Cherished?

rancid delta Dec 2, 2019, 10:27 PM

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But like they are trained both physicallt and mentally so It would be right to use CORRUPTER

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Are you talking about the code giveaway from the bot earlier?

Because I wouldn't take that as canon.

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Fair enough, but it's interesting it'd say it

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 10:28 PM

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It was just the writer trying to put a bit of creative flair to hiding a code.

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:28 PM

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The code was barely hidden though

rancid delta Dec 2, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Hopefully the flood returns in Halo Infinite

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 10:28 PM

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I mean.
Doesn't change that the messages don't really mean anything canon-wise.

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It was just a bit of storytelling to make the giveaway a bit less plain.

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:29 PM

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I'm just saying there's an offchance that it could be a hint at something

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Of course it's not a canon give away, unless the pass of games is canon :p

stoic hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Pretty sure that's hyperbole

tired river Dec 2, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Or they’re just messing with us

stoic hamlet Dec 2, 2019, 10:30 PM

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that comment from Rtas I mean

rancid delta Dec 2, 2019, 10:30 PM

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I don't think so @stoic hamlet

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It actually is true

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Think they'd say Installation 07 if they were saying there's something cherished, cause that could be anything on Installation 07

unique rune Dec 2, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Rtas' remark isn't really incorrect, sure, but it's still a bit exaggerated.

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Isn’t Anders cherished?

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She’s on I09

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Idk if I'd call her cherished

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:33 PM

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All human life should be cherished

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:33 PM

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The Primordial would disagree

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 10:33 PM

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She'd be an important person to keep alive

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Fair enough, maybe she knows the secrets to life

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Or a really good chili recipe

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:34 PM

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All human life should be cherished
Just human life, Chimera? Hmmmmm? 🤔

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:34 PM

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That could potentially stop Cortana and her chosen

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If you made chili so great, they'd have to pass on the Mantle due to their inferior chili

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Yes ostral. Just human life

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:35 PM

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i knew it

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I'm gonna tell all the tabloids about this

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Shadow of Sundered St@r was right about one thing

snow void Dec 2, 2019, 10:36 PM

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That makes barbiter sad

fair hazel Dec 2, 2019, 10:40 PM

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spartans have a better track record than sangheili generally

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:41 PM

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The lone ninja rule.

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So what’s going with Jun at the moment?
Nothing much.

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Correct

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:42 PM

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@humble yachtand what was he right about?

carmine sleet Dec 2, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I mean, he was in Bad Blood but only as a very minor character

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Just helps train and recruit SIVs

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:42 PM

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@terse lava 😏 you know what I’m talking about

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:43 PM

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This is a speciest thing I bet. 😏

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:43 PM

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@humble yachtthat humans will never obtain the mantle?😋

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:44 PM

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No ado

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Yes ado

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:44 PM

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When he called the elites “primitives”

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:44 PM

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@versed helmhe's a teacher for the 4s, that's a pretty good gig

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Didact be like “y’all some basic bipeds”

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:46 PM

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He also considered humans mere pets and animals too

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:46 PM

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I'm gonna be suing you for specieism, Chimera. You'll be hearing from my lawyer soon!

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:46 PM

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I sent your lawyer some... cereal

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😈

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:47 PM

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I don't think I get the reference. 😋

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:47 PM

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@gilded mason"local human sued by entire covenant"

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Didn’t ONI make tainted grain for the elites?

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:47 PM

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@versed helmhuragok

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@humble yachttried and failed

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Oh yeah. Though they abandoned that silly line of dumb stuff

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Irken

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Well if at first you don’t succeed

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Irukin (or however you spell it)

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Can be cooked into dishes

dim imp Dec 2, 2019, 10:48 PM

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You gulp them

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Irukin and chicken, boiled irukin

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Food. 🙂

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Humans

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Edible food.

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 PM

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They eat humans

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Finger-lickin' good

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 PM

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As do kig yar and jiralhanae

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Though to be honest...

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I don't really get how.

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'Cause they'd need to take off their masks to get a bite.

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And then they'd breathe in toxic air and all that

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:50 PM

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@gilded mason could be like infinite succor , some had the mask on their nose, leaving the mouth free

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Since didnt one toss a human scientist around like a ragdoll when you were trying to find the composer?
A marine as well

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And batted away a 350 lb Crawler

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Not dense bones, they are.light like a bird's ig I recall

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 10:52 PM

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And squeezed a human's leg so hard their bone got deformed or something

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 10:58 PM

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Neither could heretics in halo 2

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Pressure?

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Well it depends on what you mean

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If you actually meant units of F0RCE then that would be easier to analyze

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 11:06 PM

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lol

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 11:06 PM

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I’m not sure that any amount of pressure would trigger energy shields

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Now, Chimera, don't bypass the filter! 😋

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 11:07 PM

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I bad, get ban

gilded mason Dec 2, 2019, 11:07 PM

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for shame

humble yacht Dec 2, 2019, 11:09 PM

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Pressure changes are an environmental effect and I don’t think the shields react to the environment

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If they did then that would mean the energy shields would be air tight

pseudo sphinx Dec 2, 2019, 11:17 PM

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yes

terse lava Dec 2, 2019, 11:32 PM

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You know it would be nice? If we got a short story on the past of xytan Jar watinree

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:03 AM

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who knows their halo lore around here

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:03 AM

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I do, depending on what ya wanna know.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Okay so you may or may not know, to celebrate the launch of Halo going onto PC Valve and Microsoft made a collaborative sticker capsule on CS:GO. This was one of the stickers

https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/image/-9a81dlWLwJ2UUGcVs_nsVtzdOEdtWwKGZZLQHTxDZ7I56KU0Zwwo4NUX4oFJZEHLbXQ9QVcJY8gulRVTUDfCOCkxdvKXlJ6IB1ouru3LAIuhKLOJGxHuo7kx4TdwfKnZ-yIkG0J7JAo37yXp92nilDm-kU4YTj2LZjVLFFvcjZIAw/260fx260f

I was wondering if you knew what significance it has to halo

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best image i could find

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It's just like, weird eye-candy.

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A dollar bill with various bits of Halo stuff on it.

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Think it's just a custom image. Since it uses ONI imagery, and One-One-Seven

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Yeah

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:09 AM

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I'm pretty sure 26th century humanity doesn't use paper notes

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Yeah

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Australia already has more sophisticated technology than that with our fancy plastic notes lmao

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Plastic?

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:10 AM

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LMAO

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our notes are insane bro

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the new $5 note mate

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changing the world

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They look sick

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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQYK1nEpXk5efAr3Yc-_TvMKtWZyuJ2pG4qhmiGjzVixv7RcVTB

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:12 AM

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I know nothing of how Australian money is made, but if it's plastic, does it degrade at all or anything?

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Supposedly it's very resilient compared to most place's money

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:13 AM

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I'm mainly worried about the environmental impact.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:13 AM

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If there's one thing you don't have to worry about people throwing away in droves

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It's money

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At least, not throwing it away in the rubbish sense.

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Focus on straws and plastic bags xD

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:15 AM

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I do my part on bags. Always bring my own. 😋

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:15 AM

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No shops near me even offer plastic bags anymore

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Dunno if it's law or something but either bring your own or buy material ones as you shop

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Or, if you're like me, carry everything without bags because you're always budgeting tightly and forget to bring material bags

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:16 AM

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lol

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 12:17 AM

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I feel I shouldn't be shocked that you guys have plastic money. Australia is our world's own little piece of " everything wants to kill me." Would need tough money there

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:17 AM

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yeah plastic bans are banned in Australia

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funnily enough the last state to ban them was Queensland (by the way thats the state that has the great barrier reef, the one with all the coral dying and such)

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Man, thinking about the Reef makes me sad.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:18 AM

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That's because my state is a terrible place run by terrible politicians elected by terrible people 👍

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 12:19 AM

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A pity

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:19 AM

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QLD is stuffed

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:19 AM

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That's what I've heard. 😥

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:19 AM

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if it keeps going at this rate we're going to struggle

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tourism, environmentally, economically. Nothing won't be affected

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If anyone tells us off for not discussing lore

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Tell em we're uh

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Discussing the suitability of Australia for HIGHCOM

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Sure

lusty shell Dec 3, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Uhhhh.

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This doesn't look like lore

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 12:20 AM

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reports to silent shadow

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:21 AM

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HIGHCOM is in Sydney

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It's valid

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It checks out

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Queensland is bad

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:21 AM

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Or rather...was

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:21 AM

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NSW is better

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RIP

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But they just stick HIGHCOM on an Infinity-class vessel or something next time

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Or like

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A huge space station

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Like High Charity

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Everyone should team up to make a new one of those, really.

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 12:22 AM

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@gilded mason👌

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:22 AM

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It was pretty nifty.

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It could have blackjack.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:23 AM

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We're just using slang to describe the lore

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because we don't want to get assassinated

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because Halo is real okay

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 12:23 AM

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And other things that might not be appropriate for this channel.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:23 AM

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the story is real

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We're making our own High Charity with space blackjack and Vale

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we're using code names and... uh metaphors

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this is getting way too meta

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Like theogic plague....

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 12:26 AM

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The logic plague

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Aka

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Getting owned with facts and logic by zombie Cthulu

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Yep

humble yacht Dec 3, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Prophets didn’t used to look like that

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Prophets also had a warrior caste

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Called Prelates

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Pretty effective. They did stalemate the Sangheili. Though with the good help of the dreadnaught.

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Well, UNSC and SoS seem to be doing fine against Prometheans, so maybe not "can't be beat"

oak sparrow Dec 3, 2019, 2:44 AM

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e

fair hazel Dec 3, 2019, 2:52 AM

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prelates are more like spartans

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 3:00 AM

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We have proof prelates even existed during the War of Beginnings?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 3:08 AM

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I don't think so. I think they battled mainly through other technological means, not physical strength.

obsidian thistle Dec 3, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Well we have a year for then they started attempting to develop stuff to increase their lifespans. https://www.halopedia.org/1552

Halopedia

1552

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So that helps us a tad in understanding when such Prelate technology may have come about

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 3:11 AM

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👍

obsidian thistle Dec 3, 2019, 3:11 AM

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But it doesnt help much.

fair hazel Dec 3, 2019, 3:21 AM

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one of the thigns that i found interesting is covenant hardlight usage

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Prelates are the only concrete example of using hard light right? And a san'shyuum mentions no hard light

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so it seems from his perspective he may not have known, and that hard light technology was kept mostly, unknown and not as exploited

austere cape Dec 3, 2019, 3:22 AM

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how spartan pepe

fair hazel Dec 3, 2019, 3:23 AM

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what?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Catheter

austere cape Dec 3, 2019, 3:23 AM

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in all that armour

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atriox is weak

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Hard light was used in areas of high charity

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As decoration

austere cape Dec 3, 2019, 3:24 AM

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arbiter is weak

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 3:25 AM

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And we've got Waypoint itself sayin':
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/factions/covenant
[...] countless Forerunner sites and relics provided substantial progress in the centuries before the Covenant’s collapse. These improvements included [...] the control and usage of hard light [...]

austere cape Dec 3, 2019, 3:25 AM

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so what is a spartan

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 3:25 AM

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An enhanced human.

austere cape Dec 3, 2019, 3:25 AM

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why human though

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 3:26 AM

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@gilded masonwonder then how long the san shyuum lived before 1552

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 3:26 AM

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why human though
Because 'Spartan' is what they called the enhanced humans.

austere cape Dec 3, 2019, 3:28 AM

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i love the new warthog

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Domt think we have any examples of covenant using hard light do we

feral perch Dec 3, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Prelates

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Or 1 Prelate at least

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Outside of tyem

daring latch Dec 3, 2019, 3:44 AM

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any lore on the MOA!?

humble yacht Dec 3, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Yeah

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They are native to reach and are used for food. They’re shipped throughout the galaxy for their meat

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Moa burgers, yum

humble yacht Dec 3, 2019, 4:07 AM

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No

remote spruce Dec 3, 2019, 4:09 AM

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moa is not related to extinct earth moa

obsidian thistle Dec 3, 2019, 4:32 AM

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If they have. It has not been brought up ever

neat cypress Dec 3, 2019, 4:41 AM

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silly question. so if halo’s universe closely mirrors ours then 20th century alien sightings are canonical. does that mean that the sightings in the past were first contact with the Covenant or are the cliche big grey aliens an alien species that isn’t aligned with the Covies?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Or the alien sightings were false.

neat cypress Dec 3, 2019, 4:42 AM

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for the sake of fun lets say they were real 😉

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Didnt bungie hint with that arc game they were forerunners watching the galaxy?

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:03 AM

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So i still wonder,how will we ultimately defeat Cortana and the Created?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:03 AM

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By crying on her matrix.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Does anyone have an explanation as to how gravity is simulated on The Rubble? The book only says something about a cylinder rotating which makes little to no sense.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:04 AM

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Or how much of the galaxy does the Created control as of right now?

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 5:04 AM

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That's usually how artificial gravity would be made

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:05 AM

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How exactly?

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 5:06 AM

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The spinning itself

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:06 AM

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I understand an entire asteroid rotating would do it

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 5:06 AM

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Peltbynof old books have that as a staple tech

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:06 AM

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So whatever became of the International Space Station in the Halo universe?

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:07 AM

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But The Rubble has a system of interconnected tubes

unique rune Dec 3, 2019, 5:07 AM

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🤷

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Likely decommissioned and burnt via reentry

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:07 AM

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And some pieces are probably in the Museum of Humanity

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:07 AM

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So clearly they can't all be rotating. That would be absurd.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:08 AM

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What planet is the Museum of Humanity located on?

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Earth perhaps?

terse lava Dec 3, 2019, 5:09 AM

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Going with earth, maybe Luna

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@polar elmcould be fully possible really

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:10 AM

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The epilogue for Halo Reach still makes me wonder

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It jumps all the way to 2589,which makes me wonder,what happened between 2559 and 2589?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Y'know. Stuff.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:12 AM

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An asteroid belt full of connected asteroids all spinning together?

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Well in any case, what's given in the book is that there's a central section that rotates

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"The hold stretched up all around them—the core of a mile-long asteroid, slowly spun up to provide gravity, and recently hollowed out."

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:13 AM

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Were forerunners supposed to be humans before 4?

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I always got the feeling that forerunners being an alien race was a retcon and bungie hinted that it was just older humans

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never looked into it though

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:14 AM

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That seemed to be the general direction Bungie were aiming for, but it wasn't set in stone I think. Might be wrong though so don't quote me on it.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:14 AM

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anyways happy the games are coming out on pc

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Can confirm

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:15 AM

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Were forerunners supposed to be humans before 4?
They were kinda wishy-washy until 3, which showed them as separate species in the terminals.

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And the Cradle of Life comic released for Halo 3.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:15 AM

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So the whole terminals thing started from 3?

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:16 AM

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I still wonder,how was Ancient Humanity able to fight off the Forerunners for a thousand years?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Yeah.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:16 AM

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For some reason I thought 343 were the ones who started with the terminals.

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Well that's what I get for not having played the games.

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Anyway, the asteroid gravity thing? I'll have to put it in the "unclear" list.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:18 AM

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if you guys haven't, check out the movie Alien and Aliens

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Most of Halo's visual design and lots of it's characters are based on them

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:19 AM

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I think that topic has come up a few times before.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Halo is much more Aliens (1986) than Alien (1979) though

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Aliens even has colonial marines, a parasitic alien race, hivemind, etc.

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"Oh hey guys you should really check out these classic movies that everyone knows about"

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So random lmao

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I do slightly resent certain Alien comparisons to Halo, full transparency

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ok b00mer

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Wait is that

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Hold up

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boomer

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Okay good

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:21 AM

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lol

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Could you imagine, though?

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Halopedia also just quotes the book about a central rocky cylinder thing rotating to generate gravity. The best explanation I can come up with is that the asteroid remains static and the interior section rotates independent of it. I can't explain how the tubes connect to each other though.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Sorry what's this about

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I guess starship troopers too for halo

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It's called "generally the same genre of sci-fi".

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Halo is like their video game cousin

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:22 AM

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@versed helm artificial gravity on The Rubble

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:23 AM

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They all pay homage to one another

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Well, I mean, maybe not the others to Halo cuz they're all old

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i think cod 4 has a lot of aliens quotes too

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as weird as that is

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But there reaches a point where something stops being direct inspiration from another thing

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And that second thing that everything draws inspiration of becomes the father of a whole genre

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In this case it's like, grounded space opera.

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As opposed to hard sci-fi and science fantasy opera.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Hey Looters, did you finish Contact Harvest?

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:24 AM

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I got swept up reading The Expanse

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Uhhh

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What was your question again?

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I can try and find the bit

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:25 AM

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So are spartans just emotionally broken or is their lack of emotional response a side effect of doing all the things to become a spartan?
For some, the former, for some, the latter. And others are fine.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Nah, you said you'd give an opinion on some question of mine after you finished. No worries.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Nah what was the question

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I might've just been lazy

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:26 AM

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My current question is from Cole Protocol

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Anyone wanna talk about Halo maps?

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In a capacity that relates to lore? Sure.

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What planet is Solitary located on?

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According to Halopedia "unknown Forerunner world"

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Didn't Zeta Halo have some Earth fauna on it?

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Alucard

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The lore behind that map still makes me wonder,what could've been imprisoned within that facility?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Like Yonhet...

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Or some other unknown race that might've pissed off the Forerunners

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ONI

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Sharquoi maybe?

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Speaking of which,what planet did the Sharquoi come from?,like their homeworld

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Prisoner, from CE

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Or what planet is Warlord set on?

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I wonder,will the UNSC ever physically discover Charum Hakkor and the planetary system it is in?

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:47 AM

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does anyone here realise how impossible it is to land on a halo ring?

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:50 AM

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No.

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:51 AM

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and also how the frick did jiralhanae, sangheili and ungoy learn english so quick

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Because they were motivated.

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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why?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Why were they motivated?

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Well it seems like the Prophets were probably the first ones to interpret the human language

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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In the Prologue of Fall of Reach, Chief uses his "new translation software" in order to understand to Covenant.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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And they relayed the information to interpreters

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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i mean to learn english their voice boxed would have to be similar to a humans

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:52 AM

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And they are

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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which is clearly true lol

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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The Halo universe conforms to the trope of an anthropomorphic evolutionary trend

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Humans can learn to speak Sangheili too

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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The nation that if intelligent life will evolve

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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ye ik

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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It will be recognizable to us because that's just how life is

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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fair point

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Also why is it impossible to land on a Halo

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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ill tell u

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Spoiler Alert: It's not

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:54 AM

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first of all you would need to be going the same speed as the ring

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and rotating inside it

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Which is pretty easy because Halo rings are huge

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:54 AM

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yes but they spin insanly fast

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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They don't spin that fast.

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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thats why they have gravity

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but its not gravity

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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do they spin to make gravity? i thought it was forerunner magic

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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lol

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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pretty sure its forerunner magic

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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It's standard sci-fi artificial gravity. Another trope Halo conforms to.

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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nah bro

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watch game theory on it

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Hah. No.

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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xd

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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lmao

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Game theory isn't an authority on Halo lore.

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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game theory
aaaaa

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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ik that

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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They don't spin to make gravity at all

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 5:55 AM

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im pretty he doesnt know all halo

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 5:56 AM

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The Halo rings achieve their "gravity" through artificial gravity generators - despite their shape, the ring does not need to spin to create its gravitational pull, though they do spin for other reasons unrelated to gravity generation.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Game theory is the idiot that thought if you hit a Spartan in the back of the head they die because their NI disconnects from their helmet.

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:56 AM

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lmao

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Despite the fact that Spartans remove their helmets on a constant basis.

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:56 AM

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rly

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?

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lmao

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thats kinda silly matpat

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:56 AM

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But Sans is Ness, though.

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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lol

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clearly he was high

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when recording that

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Like he was when he did his For Honor video

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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but he does make some valid points

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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I mean it depends how hard the punch is

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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u gotta admit that

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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If you're an Elite and you're delivering a high-velocity fist to the back of the spine

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It'll probably do some damage

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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normal human would break their hand punching the back of mjolnir helmet no doubt

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 AM

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ofc

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 5:58 AM

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I mean it depends how hard the punch is
A punch from me. 😎

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:58 AM

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lmao

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 5:58 AM

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even then if its mk5 youre not even punching the helmet

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youre punching the energy shielding

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:58 AM

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ye

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Anyway if Halo rings spun for artificial gravity I'm pretty sure that if the speed ever changed it would be not good

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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well it would not change looters

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its in space...

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Also spin gravity has some weird effects

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Like fluid doesn't work the same way

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And you can get sick

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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ye

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Got a source on that? Sounds interesting

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 5:59 AM

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but the rings do spin

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i know that

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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About the fluid thing?

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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ye probs

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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okay idk why i cant post it

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but

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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What I meant thinking back was that things don't fall the same way

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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but what souce of energy would the halo rings rely on?

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to make the gravity

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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It's like the Coriolis effect thingo

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 6:00 AM

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okay idk why i cant post it
The thing that equals mass x acceleration

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Like you try to pour a glass of water and the water pours at an angle

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Whoa physics ftw

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Because of the inertia of the spin

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Or something

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:01 AM

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hmmm

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but if they are spining slowly like u say

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Poor vladdy. Bypass the filter yet?

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:02 AM

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the spin would do almost nothing

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:02 AM

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"The Halo rings get their "gravity" through centripetal f. o. r. c. e. As the ring spins, centripetal f. o. r. c. e. pushes all spinning bodies away from the center of rotation" from the halo wikia. no source stated so im going to assume its speculation from a random editor

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:02 AM

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thats what im saying

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Careful. You might get a warning for that.

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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they dont like giant burning plasma gas ball in space battles

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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halo wikia
Probably best to use Halopedia instead.

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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The Halo rings achieve their "gravity" through artificial gravity generators - despite their shape, the ring does not need to spin to create its gravitational pull, though they do spin for other reasons unrelated to gravity generation. -direct from the Halo Lore Stream

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Anyway because of a Halo ring's size it's not gonna be that difficult to achieve relative velocity

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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as i said im disregarding it because theres no source ostral

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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It's just like landing on any planet

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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more than likely forerunner magic

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:03 AM

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@keen canopy but what is their energy souce?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 6:04 AM

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as i said im disregarding it because theres no source ostral
Yup, I just mean in general.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:04 AM

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They er, have generators?

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:04 AM

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artificial gravity generators

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:04 AM

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yeah pedia says gravity generator

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:04 AM

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Everything in Halo that goes into space is riddled with grav-tech.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I meant for energy

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:04 AM

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for it to create that artificial gravity for the amount of time they have been around they would need some insane amounts of energy

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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also forerunners made an generator using dying potential energy

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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whow do they generate that?

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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We don't know

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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i cant remember the exact quote from the book

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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It's a sci-fi trope

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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Dying potential energy?

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Lord

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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I mean first we need to figure out what on Earth gravity is

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And since we don't know that

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343 hasn't given us any kind of technical basis

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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Like the amount of energy released by a sun?

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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i dont remember what book either lol since i just binged like 10 halo books

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 AM

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dude i can explain gravity right here and now

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Dude

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If you think you can do that

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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All Halo's are located in stra systems

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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You're seriously wrong

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Dude no one can explain gravity yet on this planet lmao

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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brb

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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good one

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Well let him have a shot. I'll grab some popcorn.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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This should be entertaining.

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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https://xkcd.com/1489/

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:06 AM

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cant even say s. t. a. r.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Jesus vladdy. You have some serious beef with the filter.

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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i dont even care that im bypassing the filter since theyre banning dumb words

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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I bet he comes back and tells us about general relativity

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And then we just go

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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if i get banned for saying s. t. a. r. i dont want to be here

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Yeah but what causes general relativity

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Just do this

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We'll know what you mean

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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okay

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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⭐

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:07 AM

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ok im back

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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lol

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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and no i was not going to google

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Cutting edge science time bois

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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im doing what ab said

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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We're about to learn what the greatest quantum physicists of our time cannot tell us

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For sure, that is

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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so pretty much everything has gravity

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Mhm

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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lmao you dont say

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not everything

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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but it only affects you when that thing is super big

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Did you just come out of year 11 science class

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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only things that has mass

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:08 AM

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like a planet for exeample

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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~~I called it, I said he'd just come back and tell us about general relativity~~

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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Hold on guys. Let's hear some more.

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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~~I was right~~

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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EVERYTHING IS AFFECTED BY EVERY BIT OF GRAVITY

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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Calm down now

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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you ding ding

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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ik that

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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you just dont notice the gravity of say a cup

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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I remember having my mind blown: "This cup has gravity???"

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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lmao

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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but we dont notice it do we?

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any way

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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"but it only affects you when that thing is super big"

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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@fleet wraith 🤜

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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thats literally you not a minute ago

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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a halo ring does not have a center

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so where is its center of gravity at?

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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youre still affected by gravity even if it a small object

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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It has a center of gravity

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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where tho?

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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at it's center

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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where is that?

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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😂

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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It would most likely be the geometric center.

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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if its a ring...

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 AM

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not geometric ab

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Not everything has a centre of gravity

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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thatd be true if every single place had the same density

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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the most plausible way for a halo ring to emit gravity is through rotation

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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It's approximately at the geometric center

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Emit gravity?

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Surface features are miniscule compared to the structure of the ring itself

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Vladdy, just making an approximation.

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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yo cows

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matpat dumb

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forerunner mega brain

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magic

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:12 AM

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yeah magic

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...

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:12 AM

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@viscid fern we have it direct from the people who write the games:

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The Halo rings achieve their "gravity" through artificial gravity generators - despite their shape, the ring does not need to spin to create its gravitational pull, though they do spin for other reasons unrelated to gravity generation.

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Alpha Halo was some 22.3 km thick so yeah, surface features are somewhat on a smaller scale than the ring itself.

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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imagine trying to convince people a scifi universe completely follows real life rules based off of technologies only weve discovered

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big l

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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@keen canopy how do those generators get the power needed to do what they do?

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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There are plenty of ways

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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and also

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Alright look, in real life we have ways of using our understanding of gravity to simulate gravity. We can use thrust, like in The Expanse, and we can use spin gravity. But everything has downsides. The Halo universe is a universe in which the fundamental nature of gravity has been discovered and mastered - I'm not talking about the effects of gravity, general relativity, but I'm talking about the mechanics of it. The graviton, if it exists. The building blocks of gravity.

It's a standard sci-fi trope and interesting universes have been built without resorting to it, but it's what we have in Halo.

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Like the sun it orbits

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Well to explain magic we need more magic

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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for one

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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considering the halo rings have been around for millions of years

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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the forerunners discovered a way to harvest potential energy from space magic

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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they would need alot of energy

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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...like from a sun?

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A gas mine?

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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no

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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they dont use solar or gas mines

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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they floating on space...

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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lemme see if theres a halopedia article

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Well to be fair, they are a Tier 2 species. You'd think it within their ability.

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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yo cows lemme just end you arguing over forerunner space magic real quick

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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Odds are they use some variation of fusion.

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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how do unsc ships have gravity

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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i dont know of any rings that get the energy from a sun

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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okay bye

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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All I'm saying is there are plenty and plentry of ways

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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ik that

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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I'm trying to tell y'all that everyone in Halo can make their own gravity.

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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So why ask the question lol

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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At the very least they can compensate for acceleration without ill effects

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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That generally seems to be the case, yes

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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but they need an astronomic amount of that energy

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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They can float in-atmosphere

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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lmao

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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correction: looters were all trying to convince cows that halo is sci fi

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 AM

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atmosphere

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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and doesnt follow the our current scientific laws

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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ik that halo is sci fi

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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There is old lore which says that humans used a combination of spin gravity facilitated by rotating sections and true artificial gravity

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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lmao

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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You want a general rule? A civilisation advanced enough to build the Halo Array

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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343 have basically ditched this

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Is advanced enough to power the Halo Array

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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even when they dead?

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Haha, @keen canopy that's just brilliant

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That's infallible reasoning right there. Love it. (No /s)

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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they can literally teleport people lol

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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i mean the halos would be fine for a while

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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If I drop dead right now

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My PC will stay on

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for years

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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lmaooooo

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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but it would turn off

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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2eezy slaughter him more

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not if you turn that setting off

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duh

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lmao

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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halo is not a pc

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lol

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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youre right

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Did you just assume my power settings?

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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And Forerunner AI still maintain everything.

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:17 AM

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halo is more advanced than a pc

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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The rings are always on. Don't worry.

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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And I am not a FORERUNNER

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Ostral is right

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Pay attention to that hinge-head

gilded mason Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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;)

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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xd

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true

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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If you can't buy that Forerunner stuff can keep itself rolling

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Then you can at least buy that your boi Guilty Spark got stuff covered

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But the actual manner by which they generate power isn't something I actually know

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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well ik that they have those dudes

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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It might be something dimensional, which has been alluded to

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:18 AM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Vacuum_energy

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here you go cows

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Oh lmao

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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i found an article about it

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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yes thats what im trying to argue here looters

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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they found a way to harness vacuum energy

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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how do they get all that power

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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VACUUM ENERGY

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THE ARTICLE IS RIGHT THERE

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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not u

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Vacuum_energy

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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jeese

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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you asked after i sent the article lmao

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 AM

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not to u tho

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:20 AM

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not u

keen canopy Dec 3, 2019, 6:20 AM

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If you're reading this, can you silently mouth the word "vaccuum" extremely aggressively for me

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Unlimited powerrrrr

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:20 AM

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I mean the vacuum energy thing is a little bit tricksy because it relies on scientific theories that we don't know to be true

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:20 AM

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well halo is set in future

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:20 AM

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lmao

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:20 AM

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so they might know

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:21 AM

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As in the idea that alternate realities are a thing is kinda speculative at this point

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:21 AM

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ye

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it will most likely stay that way

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:21 AM

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bro im dying rn cows is more flip floppity than a politician or a wet pancake

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:21 AM

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And also if vacuum energy kills alternate realities

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Then isn't it possible that in some alternate reality someone will draw on vacuum energy

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And accidentally kill our reality?

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:21 AM

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yes

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:21 AM

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"IT CAN'T WORK IT'S NOT REAL" after i drop the article "Well it is set in the future"

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:22 AM

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I mean I get that the vaaaaaaaast majority of realities wouldn't look anything like our own

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:22 AM

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?

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:22 AM

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But the freak possibility exists

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:22 AM

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yes

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:22 AM

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Like most different realities would be "lol the big bang went slightly differently so now everything's just a soup of atoms"

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And variations on that theme

polar elm Dec 3, 2019, 6:22 AM

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But , muh evolution

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:22 AM

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But if any got to any point where vacuum energy is being used

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It seems like it'd be a meme waiting to happen

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And it's inevitable that some would

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As everything that happens creates alternate realities

viscid fern Dec 3, 2019, 6:23 AM

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@fleet wraith i was actually helping u back there...

versed helm Dec 3, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Am I misunderstanding something here

fleet wraith Dec 3, 2019, 6:23 AM

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i dont care if you were