#lore-and-universe

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merry shale
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also that one spartan that tanked a needler combine and kept going

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not realizing he was disembowled

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who was that spartan

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i want to remember

carmine sleet
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That was one of the Gammas who fought on Onyx

merry shale
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Dante-g188

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thats it

tepid lynx
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WTF

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true

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still

merry shale
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he probably wouldve lived he was wearing mjolnir

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mans was in a firefight wearing SPI

tepid lynx
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like coke

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... or meth

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recurring gag

versed helm
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Hey does any one think that the halo array will fire in future games many they might use it to stop the guardians

tepid lynx
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no the array only kills organic life

versed helm
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Guardians are basically roobts

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Yea

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the array only kills organic life, that would be counterproductive

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True

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That would be the equivalent of a self suicide lol

tepid lynx
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exactly

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-1 point

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00

versed helm
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Sounds like my vacation is planed

tepid lynx
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lightbulb

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lol

versed helm
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Don't shake the light bulb jhonson

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Lone

tepid lynx
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hah

versed helm
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I am the light bulb

tepid lynx
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yes we get it.... were's an off switch when you need one @versed helm

versed helm
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Haha

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Big

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Very big

tepid lynx
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not this again

versed helm
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Ohhhhh

tepid lynx
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oh

versed helm
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That make sencw

tepid lynx
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ask goggle

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lol

versed helm
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Goodbye

tepid lynx
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bye nighlight

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me nether

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ask jun

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If I had any info i'd let you know

unique rune
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Spartan-IIIs are supposed to be about on par with -IIs.

Better, even.

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Having an actual Spartan-II train them was useful.

tepid lynx
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their not... -6

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duh

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  • noble 6
unique rune
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Augmentations were cheaper, less risky, less restrictive.

All in all Spartan-III would have been the perfect program if it weren't for the ethical issues tied to it.

tepid lynx
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true

unique rune
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Willingly enough.

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Still children though.

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So still a bit iffy.

tepid lynx
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very true

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but I don't think 117 would trade his life for a normal one any day.

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It's hard to tell with him.

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lol

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still it's hard to tell

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John and Cortana sitting in a cryptom

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K-I-S-S-I-N-G

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cortana = Crazy

gilded mason
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IIIs were not kidnapped like the IIs were
I think "Come into my car, little kid, I've got what you want inside!" is still pretty kidnap-y.

tepid lynx
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LOL..... passed out laughing!

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also cortana = crazy

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still crazy

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C-R-A-Z-Y

gilded mason
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Hm, I thought they weren’t kidnapped
They definitely were. They were extremely small children of around 4 to 6 years old when they were taken.

tepid lynx
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yup

versed helm
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I hated the fact that they changed cortana in halo five she was so cool before that

tepid lynx
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ditto

carmine sleet
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Many, if not all, the S-IIIs were orphans

tepid lynx
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@versed helm also hot

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lol

versed helm
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Yea

tepid lynx
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LOL... you are killing me man

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on the floor laughing

gilded mason
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Are you okay?

versed helm
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Have any of you asked Google if she is friend with cortana

tepid lynx
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hah hah

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he's right though

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it's kind of lore related

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ok fine it's not i'll stop

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you too lightbulb

versed helm
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Ok

tepid lynx
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here's something why do monitors have one eye not two?

versed helm
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Because we only need one

tepid lynx
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I mean they'd have 0 depth perception.

versed helm
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And that would be ceeeepy

tepid lynx
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hey they wouldn't look light a lightbulb anymore.

versed helm
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Yes but then sargent Johnson line would be fake

tepid lynx
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and they'd still have laser eyes

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DEPTH PERCEPTION!

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= 0

versed helm
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Yes we get it

tepid lynx
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ok but... i forgot my point

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but I digress

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did I use that right?

versed helm
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I wish they would do a HALO collection and have every halo game in it

tepid lynx
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oh and shoot lasers at people who offer to help WITH A DOOR!

versed helm
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Oh yes hahahahahahahaaha

tepid lynx
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no good deed goes unpunished.

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lightbulb

versed helm
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Hahhahahahahhahahah

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Probably weaker

tepid lynx
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well I assumed he upgraded it

versed helm
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Level up

tepid lynx
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with gold

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oh ok

versed helm
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Yea

tepid lynx
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my bad

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still a good point

versed helm
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H4 H3 H2 menke 1

gilded mason
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So about the arbiter, is his armor actually older or is it just purposefully weaker?```
Probably just purposefully full of the more outdated hand-me-down tech while other armor gets the latest and greatest stuff.
tepid lynx
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it's probably just plated like a usb cord.

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LOL

versed helm
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Lol

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Yes it is

tepid lynx
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Oh but it is

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HAHA

versed helm
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Grunt go smochy

tepid lynx
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🤣

versed helm
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😋

tepid lynx
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Little people first

versed helm
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Ha

tepid lynx
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Run away

versed helm
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H4 H3 H2 menke 1

tepid lynx
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ok that's enough lightbulb

versed helm
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Ok

gilded mason
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Probably because they know the score when somebody is made an Arbiter these days

tepid lynx
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gold PLATING

versed helm
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Hey any of you guys got the halo book

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S

tepid lynx
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i mean a thin layer

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yeah

gilded mason
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Hey any of you guys got the halo book
Yes. What about 'em?

tepid lynx
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well they never said yes or no.

versed helm
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Do you have em

tepid lynx
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so let's agree to disagree

versed helm
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A gamers objective in life when born be lonely and don't have friend's so you can play vidio games 1 year later gets a wife and kids mission failed well get them next time

tepid lynx
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what?

versed helm
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Read

tepid lynx
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oh what?

versed helm
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Glad to see things have spiralled as usual.

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Hagahahahahahahhahagaahha

gilded mason
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You okay, dude?

tepid lynx
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just call him lightbulb and he'll be quiet

versed helm
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I imagine Arby's armor was originally supposed to be a hand-me-down but HW negated it.
The fact that the Mausoleum on High Charity was supposed to house 'every Arbiter from first to last' would support that.

tepid lynx
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true

versed helm
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What I've heard most often is that he became lazy, ignoring his duties, until the Flood eventually amassed a Gravemind and captured him.

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Rampancy might've been implied, Spark's condition gradually deteriorated over the course of the CEA Terminals, especially after losing contact with the other Monitors. Something similar likely happened to Tangent.

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And it eventually fell to Automated Sentinels to set up the Quarantine Zone.

tepid lynx
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  • his bulb is red
versed helm
tepid lynx
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oh really I thought it was due to rampancy

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and one purple-pink ish

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I think?

versed helm
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monitors just have different color lights

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like most AIs

keen canopy
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There was something wrong with Tangent quite early on in the Monitor's life cycles, as implied by Guilty Spark.

pulsar ore
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Quick question, when in Halo 2 the Gravemind says "I?... I am a monument of all your sins" , i don't understand the phrase, is he referencing to Organic life in itself? how Forerunner Hubris (basically killin' all Precursors) brought out their own demise?
Or how the Covenant-Human War was the reason the Flood were released? (and bodies were used to create it) thinkingchief

gilded mason
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I imagine the former.

feral perch
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Humanity was responsible for releasing the Flood and giving it a vector through which to spread.

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That could be the reference, though why the Gravemind would consider something beneficial to itself as a sin, I’m not sure.

pulsar ore
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maybe he don't seems as a sin to him, but rather how humanity sees the flood?

feral perch
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Possible, I s’pose. It sounds cool though, which is what Bungie was interested in.

keen canopy
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The phrase was thought up of before the story of Halo 2 was even started. Jason Jones just thought it sounded cool.

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Likely before the Gravemind even existed

pulsar ore
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ohh!
i see,
though i think it always can be retconned to make sense

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^ that would make sense!

merry shale
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what tier is humanity currently in?

gilded mason
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3

merry shale
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neat

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3 before the covenant

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2 rn

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covenant brings whatever races they assimilate to tier 2

gilded mason
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Yes

merry shale
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technically yes

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uhh

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good question

gilded mason
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As long as they can keep/upkeep/manufacture the tech given to them, sure

pulsar ore
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wait... we are in Tier 4 now, no? Space Age?

gilded mason
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He's talking about real-life

pulsar ore
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oh, sorry

merry shale
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i kinda feel like we are inbetween tier 4 and 5

gilded mason
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Yeah.

pulsar ore
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yeah, i would say we are in Tier 4 and will be in it for quite some time

gilded mason
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Not really space-faring enough for it to be a true Tier 4, I feel

merry shale
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^

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on the cusp of tier 4

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till we can design ships energy efficient enough to go long distances

pulsar ore
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huh... fair enough, we are enterin' Tier 4 in some decades then

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^ 😄

tepid lynx
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@versed helm If only it count's 🙁

versed helm
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other than fall of reach, what are some good halo books to read

gilded mason
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Broken Circle, Shadow of Intent, Last Light, Silent Storm, and Oblivion. And the Evolution short stories.

versed helm
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I'll check those out then

keen canopy
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First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx if you've only read Reach so far IMO

feral perch
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I would also recommend Envoy for a realistic look at post-war inter species relations, and Legacy of Onyx for an idealized version.

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Halo: Fractures has some fantastic stories as well.

gilded mason
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Though what's realistic and what progresses the universe can be two different things.

feral perch
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True. Ideally they are the same.

gilded mason
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At least one reason why I would've liked there to be a greater wait in-universe between the end of Halo 3, and the start of the post-war stories.

feral perch
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Although I like Legacy of Onyx, actually. For all its cringe and weird Johnson inclusion, it has very good characters... Even if the main characters aren’t well-written.

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With the exception of Asum ‘Mdama.

gilded mason
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As in, you don't like him, or do?

feral perch
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Ah, that sentence is a little confusing, hang on

gilded mason
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Ah, okey.

feral perch
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Tom and Lucy are pretty good. Mendez is... Mendez.

gilded mason
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Asum's a precious l'il cinnamon roll.

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And Dural is an edgelord that needs to get blunted.

feral perch
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My favorite part is probably where we see Sangheili and human scientists collaborating.

gilded mason
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Ye

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It makes me happy whenever there are Sangheili that aren't the stereotypical warrior.

feral perch
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We don’t really know of any Sangheili science officers because the Huragok mainly filled that role for them.

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But now they have to do the science.

gilded mason
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Nah, Halo 5 lore actually filled us in that there were actually quite a few during the time of the Covenant.

feral perch
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Really? I must have missed that. They aren’t well-represented, then.

gilded mason
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Like the two brothers that would frequently get on the High Prophet's nerves by making a buttload of customized weapons all the time.

feral perch
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Oh, that’s cool.

gilded mason
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They're now part of the SoS

feral perch
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I liked that Tom didn’t die, and my first time reading it, I actually thought Matt Forbeck might have gotten the OK to kill him off like that. Considering Rookie, and all.

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But it also kinda spits on Emile’s death

mint flume
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Hello fellow comrades

next herald
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my message was deleted?

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i wrote a lot of word XD

gilded mason
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Probably a word that has to do with a certain space movie coming out in a month.

next herald
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i see what you're speaking about, but i used not that haha

i'll try again

gilded mason
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A bit of a too strict word filter policy regarding it.

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And any profanity would get it filtered as well.

next herald
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deleted again XD

gilded mason
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Pass what you're trying to say to me, and I'll see if I can find what's setting it off. If you wish.

next herald
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ok

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i want to learn Halo's lore. I've played halo 1, 2, 3, reach and rts halo 1, so i already know some of it

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there is any good website or wiki to learn more? ( in french or english )

gilded mason
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This is a very good resource when ya don't have a book handy.

next herald
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ok^^

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i know that wiki too

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in french, but there is not everything yet on it

tepid lynx
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h**l no

tepid lynx
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I think he meant in theory.

robust kelp
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You seriously censored "Hell"?

versed helm
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🤷‍♂️

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Christian Channel bruh

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Not really but y'know

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Think of it like a problem solving challenge

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It'll expand your vocabulary

clever fable
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No learning is allowed in this channel frank

quick spear
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HECK

keen canopy
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@feral perch Can you elaborate as to how Tom surviving spits on Emile's death?

stoic hamlet
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I’m also curious what’s being referred to

proud quail
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Could Noble Team beat Blue Team in a firefight

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anyone could if you gave them prep time

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blue team was captured once and saved by a macguffin stomach

spice tartan
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Thoughts on flood coming back in infinite? After all it’s zeta

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Hope they’re legitimately scary this time around

feral perch
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Tom was okay for a few hours by himself after being stabbed, but Emile straight up died.

carmine sleet
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Advancements in armour

pulsar ore
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I do hope the Flood come back, i think it would be fittin' to end yet another trilogy~

fair hazel
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Id like to see prometheans and flood fight

warm ridge
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@rancid delta Wanna know something funny?

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Noble 6's body was completely obliterated by said protection

carmine sleet
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His armour

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It's just the aesthetic they went with for the the first person view. Nothing more

tepid lynx
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@robust kelp it auto-deletes other wise

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@versed helm Because blue team has 4 S-II's noble has 1 (unless you count 6).

robust kelp
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No, Noble 6 still counts as a 3, since Halsey doesn't know him that well.

stoic hamlet
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Blue team has been beaten before. IIRC Kurt never lost to John during training and he trained the III’s.

carmine sleet
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Yeah, Six was never an S-II given that he was too young and explicitly stated he's from Beta Company

stoic hamlet
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But IMO a III would have the best chance in SPI, not MJOLNIR.

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If we were being totally realistic and authentic to how both teams would fight.

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Instead of the typical “action hero” stuff

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They aren’t inherently better. The only thing they’ve got is experience.

carmine sleet
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It would come down to the individual skill at the end of the day, regardless of their class

stoic hamlet
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I’d argue it would come down to a multitude of factors.

carmine sleet
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Fair point, other factors such as environment, third parto, weather and stuff like that could affect it

humble yacht
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How hungry they are, who has a Charlie horse, whether someone’s foot fell asleep; all of these things are potential factors

cedar moth
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also if they ate chipotle yesterday

versed helm
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If they're having girl troubles

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Who sees who first

humble yacht
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If Mr X can fit through a door, so can Jorge

carmine sleet
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To be fair, Mr X was more in the business of making new doors where there weren't any before

humble yacht
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Nah he uses doors normally

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He just ducks down to go thru

carmine sleet
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I know, I just think we shouldn't forget his wall smashing exploits

radiant sphinx
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Well yeah... she kinda acknowledges the sacrifices Noble team made when they reunite in The Package

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The mission, not the legends movie thing

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But she probably took it as she’s taken all the other spartan deaths

versed helm
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Kinda just absorbed it

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Like for a good chunk of Spartan Ops she was convinced John was dead

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So y'know

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She's not one to display her inner side typically

rancid delta
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Ok dokey

feral perch
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You gotta pull a BB and watch her cry

terse lava
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Think we will ever get a novella explaining how a covenant fleet ended up at the center of the galaxy near the black hole?

gilded mason
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Probably not.

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At most, maybe a small summary in the next Denning novel.

terse lava
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Likely, though curious why the covenant never bothered creating a vessel that could have retrieved the beacon. If they are so important, one would think they would try everything to get it

versed helm
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Hey do you know the black team story

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I do

stoic hamlet
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Basically everyone here does yeah. I’d argue this is the most well versed bunch of lore nerds on the internet.

gilded mason
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I wouldn't say that. I know a few that don't have this place as a "spot".

tepid lynx
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LIGHTBULLLLLLB!!!!!!!

unique rune
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I'm still annoyed by the... "creative process" that went into Black Team's fate.

gilded mason
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"I wanna show the Didact is super powerful and formidable, should I kill some SIVs?"
"Well, we ain't using Black Team, you can kill them off if ya want."
"Kay."

rancid delta
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@versed helm yeah

tepid lynx
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grey teams better... they blew up a PLANET!

gilded mason
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Too soon.

tepid lynx
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lol

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oh... and killed GIANT CYCLOPS'S!

tepid lynx
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black team didn't kill a GIANT CYCLOPS

unique rune
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I don't think he's talking about the UNSC Cyclops.

tepid lynx
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Read Halo:Envoy then well talk

unique rune
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Grey had to deal with Sharquoi.

tepid lynx
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yeah

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badass

terse lava
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Beasts even the Covenant had trouble controlling

tepid lynx
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oh for the love off

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?

terse lava
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?

tepid lynx
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i'm lost

unique rune
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I hope we get more info on the Sharquoi and the, er... vertex at some point in the future.

tepid lynx
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same

terse lava
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Would be nice

tepid lynx
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a grunt would.

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lol

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clone?

terse lava
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Wasnt that something the monitor caused?

tepid lynx
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doppelganger?

humble yacht
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Digiclone

tepid lynx
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a what?

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i repeat a what!?

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?

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explain

feral perch
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digital style--digital dancing--hey this is fun!

terse lava
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Digiclone, digital monsters

tepid lynx
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nice poem not helping

humble yacht
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Digiclones are what Zane Flynt uses in Borderlands 3

tepid lynx
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like you

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jk

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kinda like a promethean.

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i'm so lost

feral perch
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It is a copy in a way.

tepid lynx
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thank you!

terse lava
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It's never said they were really copied

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I still find it funny that the foreigners had no clue how to use that to its full extent. Yet somehow still managed to create the composer

tepid lynx
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lt.cmd Data

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typo

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it's from s-t-a-r t-r-e-k

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ha take that censor

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WHAT!!!

humble yacht
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I think they mean “Lt. Cmndr”

tepid lynx
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yeah i never heard of black team before today

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so no

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sorry

rancid delta
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Do you guys think Halo Infinite will be set on installation 09?

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@tepid lynx mean either

tepid lynx
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no maybe

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idk

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NO!

rancid delta
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@Donk2339#259 what?

tepid lynx
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sigh WE GET IT!

rancid delta
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Ok

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But what are you guys talking about?

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It's a channel about lore and universe

tepid lynx
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wait... were did you read about black team?

rancid delta
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@versed helm @tepid lynx halopedia

tepid lynx
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@rancid delta thanks Einstein

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just curios

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might read it someday

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.... if i remember

rancid delta
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They got killed along with thè scientists

tepid lynx
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yeah but cyclops giant ones

rancid delta
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The didact aaid their presence was unacceptable

tepid lynx
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and blew up a planet

rancid delta
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Oops

tepid lynx
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agree to disagree

rancid delta
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@tepid lynx I wasn't in the first place

gaunt oakBOT
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Successfully warned @tepid lynx
Reason: bypassing word filter

rancid delta
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Oof

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@versed helm ok sure

tepid lynx
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can you elaborate about it

rancid delta
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@versed helm they used the one before gen 2 I'm pretty sure

tepid lynx
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prototype says it all

rancid delta
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MJOLNIR: BLACK

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Yeah

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Called MJOLNIR: BLACK

tiny quarry
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Anyone here pick up Halo Oblivion

rancid delta
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@tiny quarry no I have the spartan field manual thoug

tepid lynx
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ok now that's awsome

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so what's hi in unggoy

rancid delta
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Idk you tell me

feral perch
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MJOLNIR: Black is not a variant of Mark V. It is its own thing.

rancid delta
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@feral perch I know

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A special type of mark v

tepid lynx
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dude all i know is english and kilngon

tiny quarry
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@rancid delta I’ve heard about that book, how is it

tepid lynx
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and a bit of german

rancid delta
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@tiny quarry really good, but a few inaccurate points

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Like they said that 75 volunteers made up the spartan 2

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THEY AREN'T FREAKING VOLUNTEERS

tiny quarry
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Lol that was the Spartan 1 program

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Did they seriously say Spartan 2’s were volunteers 😂

rancid delta
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@tiny quarryyeah I'll show you

tepid lynx
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same

humble yacht
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Spartan field manual is supposed to be an in-universe guide so it’s possible things are written in a way that UNSC and ONI would deem acceptable for consumption

tepid lynx
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yeah

rancid delta
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I tried posting it

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It didn't work

humble yacht
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Anyone have a copy of Bad Blood they can consult?

gilded mason
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You mean the Field Manual?

humble yacht
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No I mean Bad Blood

gilded mason
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I've got it. What do you need?

humble yacht
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Does the phrase “Jorge is indeed alive” appear on the last page?

fair hazel
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??

humble yacht
fair hazel
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That’s a no

humble yacht
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I thought as much

gilded mason
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The word "Jorge" appears nowhere in the book, yeah

tepid lynx
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I guess so... I never really thought about it.

unique rune
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Pretty much.

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His body probably would have been obliterated by the... very turbulent forces of slipspace.

terse lava
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...why the part on his body? It's in a multi mile long section of metal

hushed grail
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@terse lava wort wort wort

terse lava
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If anyone survived it would be the covenant on the carrier chunk. As to the question, I guess? Then again there are likely chinks if forerunner fortresses and halos there too

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@hushed grailwort

keen canopy
cerulean jetty
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🦗

rancid delta
nimble hawk
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Stop

versed helm
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bouta say, i have bad blood, and jorge isn’t even mentioned

rancid delta
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Ok

versed helm
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nor noble team really, jun is the only one mentioned

rancid delta
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People think Jun is dead

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HE ISN'T

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He survived

versed helm
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people who don’t keep up with lore probably assume he’s dead

rancid delta
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Ye

versed helm
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or didn’t watch cutscenes

rancid delta
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You might've seen this but yeah
Jorge Heavy Weapons expert: dies in explosion
Brains Kat: shot in the head
Emile Melee Expert: stabbed to death
Jun Sniper: Disappears
Leader Carter: Goes down with the ship
Noble Six Lone Wolf: Dies Alone

versed helm
#

not really melee expert, more close quarters, or demo

remote spruce
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Carter shoulda eject smh

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I imagine the Pelican doesn't have that though

slow crag
#

guys why is there something intact on the back of lord hoods head

carmine sleet
#

Neural Implant

slow crag
#

what is it for

remote spruce
#

Remember Halo CE and how Chief need them?

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Oh I meant needed Keyes'

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Cause self destruct on ship

warm ridge
#

@versed helm For any high ranking UNSC personal, neural chips are a requirement yes.

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If your just a normal Marine or a Sergeant, then you aren't required to have them. Therefore, you can't get them at all

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Something I'd be interested in is a person who has a hacked neural chip and is capable of hacking into certain UNSC/ONI devices without being detected to be honest.

versed helm
#

Okay so I know that in ODST we see that each of the ODSTs kinda have there own stripe going on? What does the stripe stand for? Like I assume its there mos but is it possible that it's there rank?

slow crag
#

What stripe?

#

Their colours?

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Oh ok nvm

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Buck didn't have any stripes but is their team leader so I assume its not their rank.

warm ridge
#

Buck had white stripes irc @slow crag

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or gray

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something like that

slow crag
#

Thats like regular stripes that every ODST has.

warm ridge
#

Buck also looks like every other ODST when he has his helmet on

feral perch
#

Not exactly. His helmet has a command module lookin’ thing

versed helm
#

Some form of specialized B-net uplink module I believe.

versed helm
#

I suppose the UNSC would want to use specialized uplink modules for the B-net to reduce the risk of it being compromised.

stoic hamlet
#

Well, all UNSC personnel have implants where the Neural link goes, the difference is what’s part of that implant.

Regular troops only have an IFF.

versed helm
#

I believe the basic neural chips probably have some additional functions of some kind.

#

It's hard for me to swallow that they really are just transponders

stoic hamlet
#

I’d agree. But as of now we only know they’re IFF tags.

versed helm
#

Maaaan

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I've been rewatching some Spartan Ops cutscenes

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I really hope they don't just decide to ditch Lasky as a character

#

He's a good dude

gilded mason
#

Though I don't really get his reason for excluding anything about John from Halsey, even that he was alive. Not even the information he had gathered was given to Halsey. And apparently he held other data from her as well.

humble yacht
#

Likely because that halsey’s prisoner status meant she had no clearance for any such info, and Laskey doesn’t consider Halsey a mother figure to Chief the way the audience does

gilded mason
#

It seems weird, since his experiences would be relevant to the issues she's trying to help the Infinity with.

terse lava
#

At least letting her know he was alive would have been nice but Chimera's likely right that she lacked even that

versed helm
#

Wasn't Halsey brought aboard the Infinity basically to just, see what was going on with the ship?

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They didn't know there was a connection between the durance and the Prometheans

#

Not until Thorne noticed

carmine sleet
#

She was brought on to stop the Artefact that Fireteam Crimson brought on board at the end of episode one from doing the weird stuff it was doing

versed helm
#

Right

#

So she was primarily brought aboard on account of her expertise with the Infinity

#

And not for, y'know. The Librarian and Prometheans.

#

Which she wanted to look into.

gilded mason
#

So she was primarily brought aboard on account of her expertise with the Infinity
And to research that Forerunner artifact.

versed helm
#

In its capacity as something that was messing with Infinity

#

I mean, let's not forget that Halsey is nothing if not dangerous and unpredictable

#

She proves it on a constant basis

gilded mason
#

Still, weird to specifically exclude the John stuff. Like, sure, Lasky might not care about the connection, or know, but then why do that, then?

versed helm
#

Could be an ONI directive.

gilded mason
#

I could see Osman being that petty.

versed helm
#

It's strategic pettiness.

#

Halsey did seem to get a spark of defiance in her after the discovery.

gilded mason
#

Though it might've just been a rubberband effect.

humble yacht
#

Militaries seem to operate on a “need to know” basis. At that time, Halsey didn’t need to know about John

versed helm
#

Halsey is known to be a bit

#

Uh

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Abducty

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With her Spartans

gilded mason
#

lol

carmine sleet
#

Not just that but when she met the Gammas that stayed on Onyx, she was intent on keeping them as well

gilded mason
#

Gotta Catch 'Em All™️

carmine sleet
#

Halsey, bad, they're people, not Pokemon

gilded mason
#

She wanted to be a Spartan Master, a noble goal, really.

versed helm
#

How much of a meme would it be

#

If Halsey just like

#

Abducted Blue Team and Osiris

#

Leaving only Chief behind

unborn matrix
#

lmao

carmine sleet
#

I know a bunch of people would be mad

unborn matrix
#

I wouldn't be

#

lmao

carmine sleet
#

Also, Halsey's abducty tendencies seemed to have passed onto Cortana in some form, given that the version of Cortana from Halo 5 did try to abduct Blue Team

gilded mason
#

"You are my children now. Do not resist."

unborn matrix
#

abducty tendencies

versed helm
#

Yikes

#

That is actually a thing though

#

Like Halsey and Cortana are just like

#

Super shady abductors

#

She passed it on

#

I never noticed

unborn matrix
#

Hey

gilded mason
#

Though Halsey did always feel awful about what she did and later wanted to make it up to them for stealing their original lives. I guess this Cortana fragment never got that character development.

versed helm
#

I think she's more hands-off

carmine sleet
#

Neo, ew. No. Never ask that again

unborn matrix
#

lmao

stoic hamlet
#

oh my god

unborn matrix
#

you never know

stoic hamlet
#

wtf

#

lol

unborn matrix
#

there's a fanfic about it somewhere out there

gilded mason
#

Gross.

versed helm
#

There's fanfics about everything

stoic hamlet
#

please no

versed helm
#

But y'know

#

Those creepy vibes

#

They probably explain a certain amount of distaste

stoic hamlet
#

distaste?

#

for whom?

versed helm
#

For Halsey

stoic hamlet
#

oh.

versed helm
#

Like obviously Halsey, despite her abductiness, generally tries to do the right thing

stoic hamlet
#

yeah

#

ehhhh

versed helm
#

But it throws off weird vibes

stoic hamlet
#

I wouldn't say she always tried to do the right thing, maybe for herself.

versed helm
#

Well Spartan II was about preventing humanity from falling into a devastating civil conflict

stoic hamlet
#

I'd argue her true intentions for taking the Spartans to Onyx were not the right thing.

unborn matrix
#

and for her personal entertainment

#

uwu

gilded mason
#

No.

stoic hamlet
#

I read a fanfic like that once

gilded mason
#
I'd argue her true intentions for taking the Spartans to Onyx were not the right thing.```
Though it seems like it was, in her mind, for *their* benefit. Not hers.
unborn matrix
#

maybe

versed helm
#

I think that was about doing what she could to do right by the lives she'd altered.

unborn matrix
#

or maybe she kept a few back for her 😉

gaunt oakBOT
#

Successfully warned @unborn matrix
Reason: don’t post inappropriate things

versed helm
#

OOOFT

gilded mason
#
I think that was about doing what she could to do right be the lives she'd altered.```
Yeah.
stoic hamlet
#

yeah, but she potentially doomed the species in the process

gilded mason
#

The species was already doomed.

versed helm
#

The odds were not good that John was gonna pull his memes.

#

The fact that he did

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Makes it seem like a certainity

#

But it was a long shot

gilded mason
#

Humanity lived because Truth overplayed his hand.

stoic hamlet
#

yeah

#

but what she did there was still arguably the wrong thing.

versed helm
#

I said she tries to do the right thing

stoic hamlet
#

aye

gilded mason
#

Sure, yeah. I'm saying that in her point of view, she was trying to help people as best she felt she could.

versed helm
#

More than 5 months

gilded mason
#

As of 2558, 66

terse lava
#

As of halo 5? Think 70s to 80s

#

Well look at me being wrong

gilded mason
#

lol

versed helm
#

Because Palmer shot it with a .50 HE bullet

stoic hamlet
#

she was shot

#

ye

#

twas a good shot

versed helm
#

It's called Spartan Ops

#

Watch it

gilded mason
#

Palmer is a rude lady.

versed helm
#

Anyway it seems to have been wounded in such a way as to require amputation.

#

That's why I love her

#

Palmer

humble yacht
#

Actually

versed helm
#

Not Halsey

humble yacht
#

It didn’t require amputation

#

Jul just didn’t want to spend too much time fixing Halsey

#

Amputation was easier than surgery

versed helm
#

They probably didn't have all the human nanites and cloning doodads

#

But yeah

gilded mason
#

Maybe not. They can fix shattered legs really quickly, and completely. So it must've been really bad.

humble yacht
#

Or jul just couldn’t be bothered to try

#

He was very dismissive of Halsey

versed helm
#

Wait, what's the example for the shattered leg?

gilded mason
#

Hunters in the Dark.

versed helm
#

Jog my memory a bit more

gilded mason
#

That human captain got her leg all broken, and went back to the Mayhem for medical aid. A weapon master went to work on her, using their medical tools on board and quickly got it back to full strength.

versed helm
#

Hm.

#

Could the weapon master have access to human medical equipment and knowledge?

#

In a capacity that Jul might not?

humble yacht
#

Jul did say something about not caring to understand human anatomy

versed helm
#

🤷‍♂️

gilded mason
#

Could the weapon master have access to human medical equipment and knowledge?
Doesn't say.

humble yacht
#

I imagine the sangheili medic was like “you know, jul, this wound isn’t that bad. We can just dig the bullet out and wrap it”
And jul was like “no cut it off”

gilded mason
#

On the latter point, at least. It was all Covenant medical equipment, though

versed helm
#

Well the bullet exploded

#

I just want to make that evident

#

Like the internal wound would have been pretty horrific

#

12.7mm SAP-HE

terse lava
#

Going with the camp of "dont bother fixing her"

versed helm
#

That could easily mangle an elderly woman's skinny arm beyond the point that it could be saved.

#

We're talking splintered bone, savaged nerves, mangled arteries, pulped tissue

#

It's a .50 round from a 26th century pistol at relatively close range

#

Which then exploded

#

We're talking a lot of kinetic energy over a broad area

#

Followed by an immediate internal detonation

#

If Halo 4 was more R-rated, she might have had her arm blown straight off to begin with

gilded mason
#

Gnarly.

versed helm
#

I so want a more dark, violent Halo game

#

Like how I used to imagine CE was when I was kid after reading The Flood

#

But alas

#

'Tis probably not to be

humble yacht
#

Indeed

stoic hamlet
#

I’ll join you in that camp Looters.

versed helm
#

The TV show seems to be trying to go for some intense violence, though.

#

Something about aiming for PG (which makes sense given Halo's general lack of swearing) with "near-R" violence.

#

So that might be interesting.

radiant sphinx
#

“Halo’s general lack of swearing”
Reminds me of when I was 10 years old and had gotten Halo Reach a month after it’s release. My mom walked in when I was playing the hospital segment of New Alexandria at the exact moment one of the marines yells “back off you son of a b**ch*

#

She wasn’t happy that day

versed helm
#

I can imagine.

#

I had a similar experience with the f-word in MW2

#

But my family, being Australian, has always been pretty tolerant of swearing up to that severity

unborn matrix
#

same here

#

with reach

#

always the marines

#

why

radiant sphinx
#

Of all times too

#

Just had to be that moment

unborn matrix
#

yeah

versed helm
#

Parents always seem to gravitate to things it'd be better for everyone if they didn't

unborn matrix
#

both my parents were in my room

versed helm
#

It's just a fundamental thing

unborn matrix
#

yeah

radiant sphinx
#

Totally

#

You haven’t lived if your parent hasn’t caught something like that

unborn matrix
#

I agree

feral perch
#

It’s funny because it’s a rather husky female soldier, too.

radiant sphinx
#

Oh no

#

I got an account warning for quoting the soldier

#

Mom found me

humble yacht
#

Halo games have always been light on the profanity. Even when Johnson was alive, it’s not like he was swearing all the time. Yet for some reason people treat him like every line had swears

versed helm
#

Huh

#

Well I mean they're wrong

#

And they have like no basis for saying that

humble yacht
#

His best line doesn’t even have swears

versed helm
#

I'm struggling to remember a swear from him right now

humble yacht
#

“Fancy shmancy tanks”

#

Best line

feral perch
#

The strongest curse in CE (during the Flood reveal) goes to Johnson

radiant sphinx
#

False

#

Best line is the cut “good golly miss Molly”

humble yacht
#

Ew

#

Glad it was cut

feral perch
#

Otherwise his dialogue is more creative than profane

radiant sphinx
#

I’ll cut you

feral perch
#

A sign of Joe Staten’s talent

#

and perhaps the reason for Johnson’s relatively tame dialogue in Halo 3?

#

Besides the opening cutscenes

#

That is to say, Joe didn’t write spicy dialogue for Johnson.

humble yacht
#

A lot of the Johnson moments in 3 were too somber for sass

feral perch
#

Yeah.

#

Halo 3 was heavy on emotional overtones, with little substance... IMO

terse lava
#

Not untrue, halo 2 had a good balance though

hexed gust
#

Yo does anybody know how these zata Halo got destroyed

obsidian thistle
#

The Halo Infinite Halo?

#

No idea. We dont even know if its Zeta 100% yet.

hexed gust
#

Ok

pulsar ore
#

Half of the focus is on MCC i think, i mean, information/promotion-wise

#

so it may be a while

upper helm
#

Zeta would be the 7th ring?

gilded mason
#

Yeah.

rancid delta
#

Yes

#

The only ring that was part of the greater halos

#

But it ejected it's excessive parts and upgraded to become the lesser halo

upper helm
#

Ah yes, the Forerunner trilogy. I remember that part.

terse lava
#

Something odd I just realized from oblivion, no hunters in Nizat's flotilla

feral perch
#

Oh you're right! Nice job spotting that. That's interesting.

tame crystal
#

it's really weird to think that halo entirely takes place inside the milky way galaxy

#

like the whole forerunner flood conflict, everything, was just the milky way. imagine what must be outside the milky way??

#

like did the precursors also seed worlds outside our galaxy, or did they come from outside??

gilded mason
#

To be pedantic, the Ark is outside the galaxy, at least.

tame crystal
#

wasn't it right at the very edge?

gilded mason
#

Nah, way outside

#

You can see the entire Milky Way off in the distance at the start of the first Ark level in Halo 3

tame crystal
#

i thought that was just the inner part visible, kinda like how it was in halo CE's intro

versed helm
#

Yes Chief

#

Shoot the galaxy

gilded mason
#

What a madlad

versed helm
#

He's lining up a killshot on Cole's GF

gilded mason
#

rude

terse lava
#

You know, in the topic of outside the galaxy, anyone finding odd.in hindsight that the forerunners sent a tiny vessel crewed by civilians rather then a military vessel when looking for the floor's beginning

#

Sure, they point out lifeworker would be the best for research, but they saw what the parasite could do during the war

fair hazel
#

They had a seeker

terse lava
#

Yea, but that's it

#

A handful of seekers, no real protection

quaint hearth
#

never mind i dont want to continue that discussion

gilded mason
#

Well now I'm curious.

quaint hearth
#

it was about if citizens in the halo universe were furries for the covenant forces

gilded mason
#

I mean, statistically? Some amount, I guess.

terse lava
#

As in....romance?

#

Likely yes

#

Look at mass effect

gilded mason
#

A whole lotta alien lovers out there. And if those aliens are actually real in-universe, then it's a sure thing.

tame crystal
#

isn't there a term for that

#

attraction to monsters, that is

gilded mason
#

I think xenophile? Or maybe teratophilia.

tame crystal
#

latter

quaint hearth
#

master chef is a lien lover, i mean, have you seen how he looks at arbiter

gilded mason
#

Little does he know, Thel only has eyes for Rtas.

tame crystal
#

it's weird to think that conversation started because of dongo using the term 'heat seek'

#

and i was like, 'hey what if the enemies are cold blooded, the needler still seeks them'

versed helm
#

These sorts of questions

#

Are the ones we can answer using common sense

terse lava
#

Well no enemy in halo far as we know was

versed helm
#

But the ones we discuss anyway because we're filthy perverts

gilded mason
#

lol

terse lava
#

"These are trying times, for all of us"

tame crystal
#

i repeat, it's unrealistic that there is no furry armour or body mods

gilded mason
#

Hm?

terse lava
#

Wait...what?

tame crystal
#

any sci-fi artist who doesn't do that is just afraid

versed helm
#

Well I know you're joking

tame crystal
#

nah you know that if there was a future like halo it's guaranteed to happen

versed helm
#

But Spartan IVs tend to be in the business of killing Covenant

tame crystal
#

i'm not referring to specifically covenant

gilded mason
#

Or insurrectionists. Or Flood.

versed helm
#

The point is

#

Even if a Spartan did have an alien thing

tame crystal
#

oh you're relating this to my previous point

versed helm
#

Which they wouldn't cuz they're combat veterans whose buddies have been torn limb from limb by Covenant

tame crystal
#

nah the body mods thing is a separate point i made unrelated to the 'covenant attraction' thing

versed helm
#

Ah.

#

Well I mean

tame crystal
versed helm
#

I'm sure there's 26th century furries

tame crystal
#

oh for sure

gilded mason
#

Which they wouldn't cuz they're combat veterans whose buddies have been torn limb from limb by Covenant
Eh, some amount would be more likely to forgive and forget than others.

versed helm
#

But the UNSC is unlikely to reflect that in their uniform or battledress.

#

Or allow for it to be reflected.

#

Furry culture is many wonderful things, I'm sure.

tame crystal
#

true

versed helm
#

But befitting of military dignity

gilded mason
#

Would Helioskrill sorta-kinda count? Does have those weird feet.

tame crystal
#

i suppose halo never really had any body mods

versed helm
#

human military dignity

#

It is not

#

And yeah

#

Humans from Halo don't like to play god

#

Mostly

tame crystal
#

mostly

gilded mason
#

Though that could apply to our world as well

versed helm
#

They'll clone a new pair of lungs or a heart

#

But they won't make a man into a cat man

gilded mason
#

Most people here don't play god either.

versed helm
#

Or at least

#

That man won't be serving in the UNSC

tame crystal
#

makes sense

#

though that technology must be useful for transition

gilded mason
#

a cat man
What a casual.

terse lava
#

This went far further then I thought it would

versed helm
#

These are good questions

#

They're very human questions

#

And Halo is about humanity

terse lava
#

And the zombies

versed helm
#

Or I guess whatever humanity is extended to other sapient species

#

People-anity.

gilded mason
#

Or I guess whatever humanity is extended to other sapient species
👍

versed helm
#

Sapientness

terse lava
#

Sounds like we just entered 40k

gilded mason
#

In the grim darkness of 2552, there are only hula-hoops.

terse lava
#

Theocratic race: check
Dark beings of craziness: check
Ancient races: check
Naive new race: check

versed helm
#

That is

#

A tenuous comparison

terse lava
#

It's the vanilla flavor yes

versed helm
#

What's Halo's equivalent of the Sororitas

terse lava
#

Prelatea

#

Prelates

versed helm
#

WHAT

terse lava
#

Likely female ones

versed helm
#

BS

#

I'm a Sororitas fan

#

They gotta be human

gilded mason
#

Oh man, you got up in arms!

versed helm
#

And un-augmented

#

I'm just gonna say

gilded mason
#

lol

versed helm
#

Any all-female ODST unit that may exist

#

Just by happenstance

#

I knew the appropriate answer before I asked

#

Heretic

terse lava
#

Irony

versed helm
#

Grunts

gilded mason
#

Are there any alien species allied with humanity?
In 40K, or Halo?

versed helm
#

Well the Grunts are on speaking terms

#

Or were

gilded mason
#

Well, the SoS

#

So Elite, Grunts, Hunters.

#

And Kig-Yar are fine with humans, too

versed helm
#

Grunts, Elites and us were chillin together on Onyx

#

So that's kinda

#

Da bois

gilded mason
#

(Speaking from an individual, not a species-wide, standpoint of course)

versed helm
#

By and large

#

The Sangeili are kinda

#

Simmering

gilded mason
#

Though even individual Sannies and Brutes I can see bein' friendly.

versed helm
#

Yeah

#

People are complicated

gilded mason
#

Like Zo, Lydus, etc

terse lava
#

Yep, also that one chieftain that did peace talks

#

Ah zo, what a good character

gilded mason
#

Forgot about them

#

Them too

#

They're bros

terse lava
#

He was a literal serial killer

#

Killed drones, crushed eggs, likely strangled a larva here and there

gilded mason
#

a bit rude tbh

terse lava
#

@gilded masonhm?

gilded mason
#

Hopalong

#

he rude

terse lava
#

Ah yes

#

Yap yap confirmed precursor

versed helm
#

Most evil alien is probably the Gravemind

terse lava
#

Well yea

versed helm
#

Followed by Truth perhaps

gilded mason
#

I don't want to be alarmist or anything, but that guy was a real jerk.

terse lava
#

Which one

gilded mason
#

...Both.

terse lava
#

Touche

versed helm
#

Jul's hench buddy with the dog tags and Ripa are also probably on the list

terse lava
#

Gek?

versed helm
#

Yeah

gilded mason
#

Yeah, ol' Blind-Eye

terse lava
#

Never liked him

versed helm
#

Just real murderous killers

terse lava
#

Yea

#

Regret was....ok to an extent

versed helm
#

Atriox, perhaps. Same vein as Truth - uber selfish.

#

Ruthless

gilded mason
#

Yeah, very domineering.

terse lava
#

Actually let's be honest, the most evil being in halo, was the precursor who mutated his comrade to become the timeless one

versed helm
#

Probably

gilded mason
#

Probably

terse lava
#

Yep

sacred dew
#

Yep

versed helm
#

Edges out in experience

sacred dew
#

Sniped three Banished a km away while upside down with one hand

versed helm
#

More over-the-top feats under her belt

#

Right

sacred dew
#

Hee

terse lava
#

I wonder if the covenant were aware of alternate realities like the forerunners

gilded mason
#

Perhaps

#

Yeah

versed helm
#

The Glow

sacred dew
#

Yes forerunners use them as fuel

gilded mason
#

Yup

versed helm
#

A L L P H O T O N S

sacred dew
#

Universe buster hoooo

versed helm
#

😎 Photon dimension

terse lava
#

@versed helmnot that type I think

sacred dew
#

Natal void

terse lava
#

Not literal parallel universe

#

Just other universes

sacred dew
#

Baby universes

gilded mason
#

An infinite amount of numbers between 2 and 3 will never be 4.

versed helm
#

But yeah the dimensions so far are whacky as heck

terse lava
#

Agreed

versed helm
#

As in

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They're not different universes with slight differences

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The ones we know of are radically different

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Like I said

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All photons

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That's one of them

sacred dew
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There not full universes as in they haven't developed life
Yet

versed helm
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Another is slipspace

terse lava
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Mhm

versed helm
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YES THERE IS

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My Noble 6 will always be a woman

terse lava
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runs temples ugh

versed helm
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You can't take that from me

sacred dew
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The glow is the proton only realm right?

terse lava
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@sacred dewyea

versed helm
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Photon

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How many times have I said

sacred dew
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Only has protons

versed helm
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PHOTONS

terse lava
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@versed helmpretty sure just a typo

versed helm
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Light particles

gilded mason
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Yes indeed, protons. The particles in the center of the cell.

versed helm
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Fight me

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Also what do you mean cell

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I think you mean atom

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Mr Alligatorface

gilded mason
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No, my joke had layers

terse lava
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Like an orge

versed helm
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You're just saying that

gilded mason
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Nuh-uh

versed helm
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Lmao

gilded mason
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Three step plan:

  1. Say proton
  2. Say they go in the center
  3. Say cell
    Foolproof. 😎
terse lava
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  1. Profit?
gilded mason
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i wish

sacred dew
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What's going on?

versed helm
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Get that Sangheili currency rolling in

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Hinges

gilded mason
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💰

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Yes

versed helm
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The end of Silent Storm comes to mind

terse lava
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He was happy with seeing blue team again, swiped his fingers a Ross his helmet as their way of smiling

versed helm
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In The Flood he seems pretty content whenever he gets the chance for a kip

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So like

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On the Pelican after saving Keyes I think

terse lava
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Was also happy for a shower in the flood too

gilded mason
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Food, mainly

versed helm
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Military rations.

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Look up an MRE channel on YouTube.

terse lava
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Ration bars, their own waste, etc

versed helm
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I think the waste might just be water

sacred dew
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I want to see a Spartan 4 eat a tree

terse lava
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what?

versed helm
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The UNSC has emergency ration bars which are said to be incredibly nutritionally dense

gilded mason
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I think Buck might've been embellishing.

terse lava
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@gilded masoncontext?

versed helm
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So I don't think there's really a need to resort to the other waste

sacred dew
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The Spartan guild said they could eat trees to get nutrition

versed helm
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"Guild" lmao

terse lava
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......what

gilded mason
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The manual says that too? Gosh.

versed helm
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They can eat many things

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There are better options than wood

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No doubt

terse lava
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"Spartan 259 Tazz"

sacred dew
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I meant the manual

terse lava
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The manual really says that?

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I cant read that without cracking up

sacred dew
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Ah Nutrition from the source👌

terse lava
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That would be loony tunes.level of weird

gilded mason
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Still not as weird as being able to breathe pure methane for half an hour though
Ugh

terse lava
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Oh yea....

versed helm
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ONI : 😟

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@versed helm found it

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sorry

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atleast kind of

unique rune
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I like the eating a tree bit but the methane breathing is just full on nonsense

versed helm
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"it is also said that a Spartan could eat a raw tree and retain the equivalent of six meals' worth of calories in terms of energy."

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"The enhancements performed on the lungs potentially allow a Spartan-IV to breathe methane for around an hour."

sacred dew
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They can also last for five minutes in space without any equipment

versed helm
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whatever happened to jun?

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I kind of forgot about him

gilded mason
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He recruits SIVs

versed helm
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when I just watched him slowly drift away the last time I played the halo reach campaign

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I just kind of let it go

sacred dew
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Is he in bad blood

gilded mason
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He's in New Blood.

versed helm
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yeah

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not bad blood

sacred dew
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Nah 6 is still in his cave

gilded mason
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There there, Richard.

unique rune
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6 is stuck in the cave until he gets enough parents’ credit card info

gilded mason
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Someday you will move past it and heal.

versed helm
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why did carter just give up

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he could've jumped out

gilded mason
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Think he had a huge hole in his chest

versed helm
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oh right

unique rune
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He probably figured he’d just be a burden to Emile and Six in his condition