lore-and-universe

[gaunt karma]

how come undersuits can't be used on other armor?

[quartz willow]

I know

Elites probably dont prefer them but I'm not sure

[remote spruce]

The new ranger armor is pretty good

[gaunt karma]

the Halo 2 armor is my favourite

[quartz willow]

Watch covenant canons video titled sangheli combat harnesses

It explains each combat harnesses use during the human covenant war and its origin

[gaunt karma]

the volume control on that video is not the best

[quartz willow]

Yes I know but they cover it greatly better than from what halo canon even said he thinks he could and probably better than xperia to

[obsidian thistle]

Halopedia is also a good option for the harnesses https://www.halopedia.org/Sangheili_harness

[gilded mason]

Ah, CE Elites looked so good.

[quartz willow]

Except there really long necks compared to every games

[gaunt karma]

Halo 2 elite tho

[quartz willow]

I mean there neck isn't up right so it dont look so long like that

Halo 3 elites are sanghelli at peak performance

[gilded mason]

I always thought the Halo 3 elites were a bit too thick for me. And the lower leg armor looked kinda silly.

[humble yacht]

Reach elites

i'm no dino but man, that armor diversity

top notch

[terse gale]

Reach Elites 👌

[gilded mason]

From Reach, I did like the standard harness, though the foot armor and face weren't preferable.

[quartz willow]

@gilded mason Elites are best when they thick

Not sexually

I mean like muscle

[gilded mason]

@quartz willow
They were thicc in the wrong places. 😋

[quartz willow]

Lol

[wispy bough]

uh

alright

[autumn urchin]

Is there a spartan known to use eod armor

[humble yacht]

yep

[autumn urchin]

Well ok then

[humble yacht]

James-005

[versed helm]

I have a question

The grunts of Halo have a narcotics and drugs for personal enjoyment do any other species of the covenant use narcotics for pleasure?

[terse gale]

Prophets

[agile lotus]

Despite not complimenting the body design as most of the good Elite designs do, the Honor Guard set looked really good.

[royal spear]

Sure did

[narrow gyro]

Is there a 7th generation spartan ?

[versed helm]

How good is Bad Blood?..like the quality?

[versed helm]

Mediocre.

Very simplistic, non-technical writing.

The story advancements are pretty compelling, though.

[versed helm]

Wow..i was planning on buying it since i already have New Blood

If you want to see the story of Alpha-nine and the universe in general progressed, it's still worthwhile.

I would consider it to be mid-tier Halo.

Just don't expect a Silent Storm or Ghosts of Onyx, y'know?

Be aware that my enjoyment of anything Halo directly seems to be influenced by the extent to which the bit of media in question could be considered hard military sci-fi.

Not only does Bad Blood lack the technical depth I like, but it also feels very "and then, and then, and then" to read. Things just kinda happen, without a great deal of setup, logic or forethought.

But if you like Buck, Dare and the ODST gang, I wouldn't discount it.

[hidden blade]

I had an absolutely terrifying dream.

A Gravemind was trying to take over Earth

But it was like a Gravemind mixed with Resident Evil and The Thing.

And invasion of the body snatchers

[quartz willow]

@narrow gyro the spartan on kilo 5 naomi

[unique rune]

Naomi-010 is a Spartan-II. They’re still quite a ways off from a 7th-gen Spartan, I’d imagine.

Unless we’re talking MJOLNIR, in which case 010 was issued a Mark VII unit. Though Mark VII was never put into mass production and instead just had some of its tech incorporated into GEN2.

[quartz willow]

@unique rune no I'm pretty sure she wears mojlnir mark 7

Not 7th gen

[unique rune]

I... I know that. That’s what I said.

[gaunt karma]

VII is 7th

VI is 6th

[quartz willow]

I know

[gaunt karma]

Nova said VII

[quartz willow]

I'm just lazy rn

[gaunt karma]

lazy to read?

[quartz willow]

Yes I'm at school and only woke up 30 minutes ago

[gaunt karma]

I only woke up 20 minutes ago

it's 12:17

[quartz willow]

For me its 7:18

I live on East Coast

[gaunt karma]

I went to sleep at 4am, woke up at 7am, fell asleep after like 30 minutes and fell asleep until 12pm

[quartz willow]

Do you not have school where you are right now

[gaunt karma]

no, because I am no longer in school

:p

already did that

[quartz willow]

Oh ok

I'm gonna take a guess and say you live somewhere in western Europe because there always 5 hours ahead of the US east coast

[celest island]

Does anyone wonder why the flood glows in halo wars??? Halo 3 flood is most accurate in my opinion

[strong sage]

I presume they are leftover flood back during the ancient forerunner flood war who survived the rings

[celest island]

Yeah I guess so.

[versed helm]

Y'know

I've really come around on the idea of projection sights

Kinda hope they're retconned into all MA5 models

Really good throwaway explanation for a lot of things

But in likelihood, they're probably reverse-engineered from Covenant tech.

And are very much a postwar integration.

[celest island]

K

[versed helm]

I mean specifically the holographic portion

That hangs in the air next or above the weapon

Which I recently learned exists

[vague scroll]

The Flood on Etan Harborage were holdovers that escaped the Halo Array firing by hiding inside the shield world

[celest island]

Honestly idk wot grim is talking about

I don’t play H5

[vague scroll]

They’ve spent the last 100,000 years growing by consuming the local wildlife and the natural environment

[carmine frost]

The sights are a projected hologram in Halo 5 @celest island

[celest island]

Oh k

[carmine frost]

They're pretty cool but I prefer the old Magnum sight

[celest island]

Smart aim?

[versed helm]

No.

[vague scroll]

They’re not quite coordinated but they are more intelligent than the Flood you encounter in CE

[versed helm]

Like, the weapon actually has a holo-projector in it

[carmine frost]

No, just a projected sight

[celest island]

Oh ok distant

[versed helm]

Which projects an aiming suite in front of your face

Doesn't replace good ol reticles tho

[celest island]

Guys what is ur fav flood in halo game

My 3

[versed helm]

Don't know why someone who has access to reticles would need them

[celest island]

Mines*

Omg

[versed helm]

Tbh I'd expect a guy with a pfp like yours, redfire, to be more interested in the tacticool stuff

[celest island]

Mobile sucks

I like flood :/

[vague scroll]

@carmine frost those projected sights in Halo 5, the view of aiming down actually is a hologram in game

[celest island]

And shotguns

[carmine frost]

Oh? I've never played it, I've just seen content

[celest island]

Oh ok distant I saw gameplay

[vague scroll]

You can tell only really by looking at enemy Spartans

Or in Theater

[celest island]

Welp

Guys what does halo 4 flood look like to you

[vague scroll]

human weapons have this little light blue glow, the Covenant weapons have these large blocky hologram displays that pop up

Halo 4 Flood? they look like Spartan-IVs that got infected?

[celest island]

I’m just saying halo 4 flood looks like it was play dough sunbaked for 10 years in the desert of Egypt

And yes

[vague scroll]

Kek, that’s one way to put it

[upper star]

Which I dont get how the human ones are slicker looking than the covenant ones

[vague scroll]

Because the version of Halo 4 Flood are UNSC-generated conceptions

Either that or there have been limited encounters where Spartan-IVs have been infected during Flood biohazard containment operations

They’re rare but we know that SPARTAN-IVs have been deployed against the Flood between Halo 3 and 5 thanks to details in the Halo Spartan Field Manual

[upper star]

There is a special code word used for an infected spartan, hiddenexperia mentioned it in one of his many flood videos

[vague scroll]

Yep, it’s in the Spartan Field Manual

“Corrupter” I believe is the emergency radio call

[hasty geyser]

Infected spartan is an immediate nuke from orbit right

[celest island]

Draw is correct

[vague scroll]

I don’t have the book in front of me to check but yeah that is correct Draw

[celest island]

And if that does not happen the suit blows up

[upper star]

Yeah and full fireteam sent to confirm

[vague scroll]

@celest island no the suit can’t do that

They actually order all Spartan deployments in the area to be postponed if a Spartan gets infected

[upper star]

The suit cant blow up on command, the suit has the option to have its fusion core detonated

[vague scroll]

Meaning they order a retreat

Which has to be done manually

[celest island]

@vague scroll the fusion in it. Usually inside of spartan 2 and 3 but sometimes in 4

[vague scroll]

I already explained that

The suit won’t detonate on its own

[celest island]

;-:

;-;

[upper star]

I haven't heard of it being done beyond first strike when cheif used it on Grace suit to take out and delay the covenant chasing them

And she was dead when it was done

[celest island]

Never used but can be

[vague scroll]

Also it’s a policy part of ONI Directive 930, aka, the “Spartans Never Die” Clause

[upper star]

And it sounds like more of a improvised thing rather than a full ability

[vague scroll]

If a Spartan is to fall in battle, their remains are to be eliminated rather than let fellow military personnel see it to maintain morale

[celest island]

Ik

[upper star]

Although I wouldn't mind seeing it make an appearance in infinate gameplay

[vague scroll]

Kind of hard to have a situation where that was the case

You’d be killing yourself

[celest island]

lol

Milking

[vague scroll]

Terrible autocorrect

[upper star]

@vague scroll first time hearing of the directive by number

[vague scroll]

Check Halopedia

I’m not sure if this Discord likes links half the time

[celest island]

In my opinion the worst weapon looks is halo 4 and 5 shotgun

It looks like a carved rock

[upper star]

@vague scroll fair enough

[versed helm]

i love halo 4/5 sniper though

[vague scroll]

https://www.halopedia.org/ONI_Directive_930

[celest island]

Ye I guess

[vague scroll]

It worked, great

[celest island]

Halo 4 and 5 shotgun makes me want to die :/

[vague scroll]

Having spoken to some gun nuts, they’ve said that it looks practical

[celest island]

Rlly?

[quartz willow]

@celest island which halo wars 1 or 2 for the glowing flood if halo wars 1 I never noticed

[vague scroll]

Yeah, has the same profile as a military shotgun

[quartz willow]

But halo wars 2 I would assume they had been irradiated by highcharitys blown reactors

Thus the glowing

[celest island]

I never played Halo five, halo wars, and halo wars 2

[upper star]

@vague scroll yeah it does

The halo shotgun is similar to what is used by the royal marines

[vague scroll]

Radiation doesn’t make things glow

[upper star]

@celest island a bit of a gap. If you want to understand why people have their reasons for not liking halo bits of 4 and most of 5 have it

[quartz willow]

I mean the flood in halo wars2 is left over flood from halo 3s battle of the ark which is a little confusing because me and quite a lot of other people believe the flood should have been destroyed by high charity blowing up than the partial halo ring firing

[vague scroll]

Halos don’t kill Flood, it destroys their food source

[quartz willow]

And destroying itself and part of the ark

@vague scroll no because the halo partially destroyed some of the ark

[upper star]

@vague scroll it kinda does, on our weapon sights there is a tiny bit of radiation used to give that constant avg glow

Nvg

[vague scroll]

@upper star depends on the type and active ingredient

A human body doesn’t glow in the dark from radiation exposure unless in some severely high doses and at that point it’s a pile of goo

[upper star]

@vague scroll you got me. I was just about to type that

[vague scroll]

Also, the Ark was only severely damaged by the Halo premature firing

It wiped out the Gravemind but that’s not going to stop the Flood from still being there

[upper star]

But we use a very weak ingredient which gives a faint glow

[vague scroll]

Good point, yeah, my knowledge on firearms isn’t the best even though I do like firearms

[celest island]

@upper star https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/M45D_Tactical_Shotgun it looks something the brutes would make. It just looks bad in my opinion

[vague scroll]

I’ll agree that it looks overdesigned but it’s more practical than the E and 90 family

[celest island]

Yep

Halo 3 and reach was plain simple and effective

Not too complicated and useless bumps

[vague scroll]

But not realistic to modern requirements

[celest island]

I guess but it’s halo

[vague scroll]

Like having an adjustable stock

[celest island]

Halo reach shotgun or a bit more advanced

[upper star]

It has a clearer finish but the fundamentals are definitely there.

[celest island]

Also both have flashlights and attachments

[upper star]

It could be produced

[vague scroll]

If you want me to go down a realism tyraid, there is a lot wrong with the concept of shotguns against shielded targets

Or shotguns in an urban combat zone in general

Shotguns are great but a rifle and carbine can do the exact same job and better

[celest island]

But the shotguns are OP with a reason

[vague scroll]

Scattered pellets should not be able to penetrate a shield

[celest island]

Eliminate targets faster CQC

Only if it’s close

[vague scroll]

Not even if it’s close

[celest island]

And it’s power is super strong

And shoots a lot of heavy pellets

[vague scroll]

They’re using buckshot, that stuck would bounce harmlessly off the shields

That stuff won’t even go through most body armor

It’s not designed for penetration - it’s for hitting soft, fleshy targets - like birds

[celest island]

I gtg DM me to talk later

[vague scroll]

I’m good, you take care

[celest island]

Be back in 6 hours and more

K bye

[vague scroll]

If you’re in needing to go

Cya

[modest marsh]

@vague scroll I’d disagree on the basis that the UNSC shotguns have a blatant disregard for realism in term of firepower

[vague scroll]

I didn’t say firepower, just in the function of the round

[modest marsh]

Jerome’s M90 knocks over a Brute on Enduring Conviction like he got hit by a car

[vague scroll]

The issue comes down to the 7.62mm NATO that is favored in the MA5 family

It takes multiple rounds to shatter shields

[upper star]

Depends again, it it were pellets depends on what they are made of and speed upon firing

If they are using a slug which fragments then its plausible it can blow shields

[vague scroll]

And somehow the M45/90 family is penetrating at even higher velocities but somehow struggle to maintain that free energy over a small distance.

If it’s a slug I’d be game for it

[modest marsh]

That’s just game mechanics

[upper star]

That why you can stagger a target with one shot but need a second for the kill

[versed helm]

Well, in-game damage is far from realistic.

I needn't remind y'all

[upper star]

Or need them to full chest trap the slug for a 1 shot

[modest marsh]

The shotgun has an effective range of like 5 meters in most games lol

[upper star]

@versed helm I am sure its understood ha

[vague scroll]

Don’t need to remind that gameplay isn’t canon, still the behavior even in cutscenes and in book depictions are a bit strange

[modest marsh]

I don’t recall it ever being an issue to land an effective shot with the shotgun

[upper star]

You wouldn't keep sprinting if a mantis was firing 20mm HEAP shells at your feet haha

[modest marsh]

They’re generally very effective against all forms of Covenant infantry

[upper star]

You would want to but it would put you on your butt quick

[vague scroll]

I think if it was changed or clarified that the buckshot of the 2500s is not the same as our modern concept of it, I think it would make more sense

[upper star]

At the end of the day, few things are as satisfying as bringing the fury of buck shot point blank on an enemy grid when the storm into your base

[vague scroll]

Buckshot also presents a friendly fire hazard...

[upper star]

Grid meaning face

[modest marsh]

It’s already not our own buckshot

[upper star]

@vague scroll only if you are in front in which case you are pretty silly tbh

[modest marsh]

8 gauge isn’t exactly a common military cartridge

[vague scroll]

True 😛

[upper star]

No one is suggesting to rescue hostages blasting shotguns all over. It's for when you really want you enemy dead and for them to have a close casket funeral haha

[vague scroll]

Demoralize them if you can

I feel like we’d be looking at war crimes in the Insurrection but after Far Isle, that seems to be small pickings

[upper star]

I would be if I saw my mate head turn into a popped water balloon in front of me, or seeing them get a next whole to breathe out of x

[vague scroll]

Run for dear life

[quartz willow]

I'd it me or does the halo 1 shotgun look more like a rifle than a shot gun in most aspects like how its held how far it can kill things and its design I mean the cheif even shoots it as if it were a rifle and not a shotgun

[gaunt karma]

could just be gameplay

[versed helm]

It's just like, a shotgun with more realistic shotgun capabilities.

That said, where's my full auto M90 variant with a drum mag

[quartz willow]

Yea the other shot guns except halo 5s has like no real limitations because of how powerful it is In game you can aim in with it and hit a Target 10 meters away and kill them one shot if you dont believe look up on a youtube halo shotguns analysis

[vague scroll]

One day grim one day

[fair hazel]

I like the halo 5 shotgun... especially the blAze of glory

[quartz willow]

Yes there good but they are ridiculously OP

If I had a shot gun in real life and gunshot at someone 30 feet away I'd at most have 1 maybe two pellets hit them but in halo 5 every pellet hits you it's really the only weapon you can challenge a zombie with in infection any other gun except explosive and a pistol will not hold them back for long once you start reloading

[strong sage]

Anyone knows how good are spartan II in hand to hand combat? And furthermore what kind of training they had ish it like jiu jutsu kick boxing krav maga or all of the top martial arts?

[fair hazel]

Very, all they can

[quartz willow]

@strong sage they were trained in a variety of martial arts and they are so good when master cheif wasnt in full moljnjr he took out a entire squad of ODSTS when he was still a teenager all be it this was after augmentations but still didnt get hit once

[stoic hamlet]

Tbf, most Spartans can do that, even IV’s.

It’s not about their skill in that scenario, but reaction time

[strong sage]

Ahhhh thanks fam , i guess that explains how Anton(i think?) killed a hunter hand to hand

[stoic hamlet]

You’re thinking of Will

[quartz willow]

Yea will was a badass

[vague scroll]

@strong sage the ones you listed are mentioned specifically for the IVs in the Spartan Manual, what they taught the 3s and 2s is likely similar but we don’t know

[strong sage]

Trueee their reaction times is a factor as well but complement with their training i can’t imagined the scene xD

Oooo yeaah will sorry i forgot , since i read it on pedia xd

Ahhh i see i see thanks tide , well im getting my manual soon so yosh ^~^

[stoic hamlet]

Well if it’s anything like how Beta engaged Covenant during Torpedo you literally wouldn’t be able to see them move.

Or like how Keyes saw Spartan II’s sparring on the PoA (though I forget if they were armoured in that scene)

[vague scroll]

I’d say an ODST combat vet would be able to overtake an unaugmented Spartan in the ring even with their training, when you account for the reaction time, the Spartans are unmatchable, but without it and the augs, their lack of experience would be a problem

[stoic hamlet]

Yeah

I’d agree

[versed helm]

There's also the fact that while Spartans are child prodigies, ODSTs are psychopaths, born killers and madmen.

[stoic hamlet]

At the end of the day an unaugmented Spartan is just a kid/teen

Yep

[quartz willow]

Yes

[strong sage]

True i mean they been through hell as well

[vague scroll]

Psychopaths!? Don’t let the Helljumpers hear you say that.

[fair hazel]

Uhhhhh ODSTs psychopathe..?

[strong sage]

They r not your average joe troopers

[vague scroll]

He’s exaggerating

[versed helm]

I'm throwing in a little bravado there, as if I was an ODST

[stoic hamlet]

Ehhhh

[fair hazel]

I’m very literal

[versed helm]

But they are utterly fearless and very bloodthirsty.

Just see The Flood.

[stoic hamlet]

Not much of an exaggeration if we take into account the units on the Midsummer Night

[versed helm]

Or like, Helljumper.

Right.

[strong sage]

And owh i saw someone pit Sahelantropus against something , i recently played phantom pain and im curious if we are to pit it against the Army’s colossus is that considered to be overkill fams?

[versed helm]

Alpha-nine are unusually suave for ODSTs, by the standards of what we've seen.

Silent Storm.

[stoic hamlet]

They basically kidnapped and branded Keyes as a congratulations and thanks for saving them

[versed helm]

Another astounding example of ODSTs just wanting to kill stuff and being very ignorant of their own safety.

[stoic hamlet]

That’s not normal

[vague scroll]

The description of ODSTs as a bunch of undisciplined savages isn’t far off when taken into account of things like Season 2 of HTT

[versed helm]

Right.

[vague scroll]

They’re good at their job but only that job, soldiering.

[stoic hamlet]

Even Mckay was unhinged

[vague scroll]

They don’t have the fine tooth Scalpel mind of an ONI operative

[stoic hamlet]

They were a poor choice in that scenario IMO.

Should have just been an ONI team

(For that HTT scene, I mean)

[vague scroll]

Yeah, well, you wouldn’t have gotten that exact scene if it had been an ONI team

[stoic hamlet]

Oh I know

[upper star]

@quartz willow you fire shotguns from the hip unless you want to have pains for days

[stoic hamlet]

I’m just saying logically it should have been ONI

[vague scroll]

It should have but I think there might also have been too many questions

[versed helm]

McKay was EXTREMELY unhinged

"Oh darn, this poses a threat to Earth?"

"Time to kill myself and thousands of my mates."

It was a very helljumper solution.

[strong sage]

Isn’t Mckay the pilot from Flood novel?

[quartz willow]

@versed helm literally didnt Care they were fighting literal space zombies and just fought them as if they were covenant

[stoic hamlet]

Too many questions? @vague scroll

[vague scroll]

Better to send in a bunch of soldiers rather than ONI because of FERO’S cover

Her identity as FERO doesn’t really make sense for an ONI strike team to be used

[stoic hamlet]

Ahhh, yeah, true enough

[vague scroll]

The sloppiness of ODSTs might make it more believable that she isn’t that important

Just enough to kidnap in broad daylight

[strong sage]

Oni strike team? Thats the first time i heard those

[stoic hamlet]

They’ve been a thing for years

[strong sage]

I assume they are like SAD?

[vague scroll]

ONI has a lot of units

No, SAD is a Fanon thing

[stoic hamlet]

AAG, NAVSPECWAR groups, Delta-six, Papa’s, etc

[vague scroll]

Think Beta-5, Delta-6, Kilo-5

Yeah what Eternal said

[stoic hamlet]

Whatever Gibsons’s (from GoO) unit was (guessing AAG but it could have been something else)

[strong sage]

Ahhhhhh i see i really didn’t know much about oni except that all i know they just provide the mia thingy for SII and intelligences

[upper star]

I missed that are we on about non augmented UNSC SF?

[quartz willow]

The only spec ops team I like at all in the halo universe is the Silent Shadows deadly enough to sneak up on not just 1 but 2 spartan head hunter teams in mjlnior and take out both but sadly they got caught in a explosion triggered by one if the demons I mean spartans

[vague scroll]

@upper star yep

[stoic hamlet]

They were in SPI @quartz willow Which is an even better feat

[strong sage]

WAIT the ones who Jonah fough are silent shadows?

[stoic hamlet]

Ye

The entire moon was a trap

[upper star]

Cool, Gidson was ONI acquisitions was he not, similar to locke

[quartz willow]

Yea because they would be blending in with their surrondings

[strong sage]

I thought they just the regular joes or some other spec ops team

[vague scroll]

Spartans are Spartans

[strong sage]

Da heck

[vague scroll]

They’re worth the special attention

[stoic hamlet]

Nah he was on the ground Black Ops, but we don’t know his unit. @upper star

[quartz willow]

The silent shadows also started hunting down brutes after the human covenant war

[vague scroll]

Some joined with the Smiley Man

[strong sage]

But i read on pedia all of em join Atriox

[vague scroll]

Not all of them, a single unit

[upper star]

@stoic hamlet ok

[strong sage]

Ahhhhhh

[stoic hamlet]

Admiral Rich was ahead of Acquisitions IIRC.

[vague scroll]

Atriox is the smiley man

[quartz willow]

@strong sagethat was one squad for all we know there are some in the SOS or Jul Madamas covenant

[strong sage]

Oh wait so theres tons of em i thought the one that i read was the remaining silent shadows

maigad im loving this xd

[versed helm]

what does it mean when a monitor turns red?

[upper star]

@strong sage no that was a single unit

[stoic hamlet]

They’re not like, Jedi, lol

[strong sage]

I need to know more!! >.<

[stoic hamlet]

There’s probably thousands of them

[upper star]

@versed helm he is very upset

[quartz willow]

@strong sage no there were many silent shadows we only know about that squad rn though

[vague scroll]

@versed helm depends, most of the time nothing

[strong sage]

And i assume sword of sangelios have some of em as well ye?

[vague scroll]

But for Guilty Spark it’s rampancy

[strong sage]

Thanks guys ^~^

[stoic hamlet]

Probably @strong sage

[quartz willow]

@versed helm it means he going to commit Sgt johnson on you

[versed helm]

what’s the lifespan for a monitor?

[vague scroll]

Infinite

[versed helm]

too soon @quartz willow

[vague scroll]

As far as we know

[quartz willow]

100000s of years

[stoic hamlet]

^^^

[upper star]

@vague scroll a millinia

[versed helm]

then what causes rampancy??

[quartz willow]

@versed helm islolation

[stoic hamlet]

Longer than a millennia. That’s only 1000 years

[gaunt karma]

being alone for that period of time

[vague scroll]

They’re still human-like, they have emotion

[upper star]

It's the constant intake of information

[vague scroll]

They break under pressure

[strong sage]

I think forerunners rampancy is much different than unsc standards yes yes?

[vague scroll]

Things fall apart

[upper star]

Thing of it as computer dementia

[vague scroll]

Or overclocking your CPU for too long

[upper star]

AI have so much info they cant catalogue all of it coherently

[vague scroll]

Things heat up, melt, processes slow and corrupt

[quartz willow]

Monitors like Tangent which went rampant after being captured by the gravemind and 343 guilty spark which had no contact with his fellow monitors can destroy the monitors

That's why tangent eye was read if you notice in the ce terminals jo monitors eyes were red there

[vague scroll]

I personally compare Smart AI to Virtual Machines

[versed helm]

do monitors commit die?

[upper star]

@quartz willow that is more like a virus in ky opinion

[gaunt karma]

commit die

[upper star]

Guess he means suicide

[versed helm]

yes @gaunt karma

[strong sage]

U mean suicide olive?

[quartz willow]

No they can only commit die via spartan laser

[upper star]

And we dont know

[versed helm]

suicide

[strong sage]

xD

[vague scroll]

They could but they’re probably programmed with failsafes and such

[versed helm]

too soon @quartz willow

[upper star]

I would guess the forerunners would have a failsafe in place

[vague scroll]

Anything is possible if you put your mind to it

[versed helm]

but then again, they have multiple orbs

[quartz willow]

I am very educated on the monitors in halo
Tragic Solitude went rampant after seeing the humanity destroy his installtion

[strong sage]

Well i mean Cortana sacraficed herself so isn’t that considered part suicide ish?

[upper star]

Also bu erasing or locking away the person they were as far as they know all they are meant to do is serve

By

[versed helm]

halo 2 sniper vs linda?

[quartz willow]

@strong sage human AIs can commit final dispensation we dont know what forerunner AIs do if they even go rampant besides 343

[versed helm]

jackal**

[quartz willow]

Linda has nothing on the jackal sniper

[upper star]

Linda

[versed helm]

Sort

wort

wort

[upper star]

@quartz willow upside down, one arm 3 banshee snipe

That is all

[humble yacht]

For human AI, rampancy is a like a terminal illness

[quartz willow]

I cant tell you how many times I've literally been behind cover and I somehow still die from a jackal sniper

[upper star]

Though the gap btw

[humble yacht]

but for Forerunner AI, it doesn't carry the fatal effects

[versed helm]

it makes them lose focus or their human form, and makes them less intelligent with time

[humble yacht]

because they're more advanced, I guess

[strong sage]

Linda vs Quiet!!

[upper star]

@quartz willow if it was Linda you would have died before you fought the hunters

[gaunt karma]

Quiet?

[versed helm]

like that’s why the spirit of fire had that flood outbreak, Serena was losing focus because she was becoming rampant

[strong sage]

Quiet is uhh from Metal Gear

She a sniper

[vague scroll]

@gaunt karma MGSVcompanion

[humble yacht]

I wouldn't call that loss of intelligence

[strong sage]

Sorry about that guys for making comparisons ;-;

[humble yacht]

but yes, an inability to focus is a common symptom

[quartz willow]

We have only meet 4 monitors with the halo universe Penitent Tangent 343 Guilty Spark 00 Tragic Solitude and Static Carlon

[strong sage]

Im just curious

[modest marsh]

Armor makes a big difference

[quartz willow]

There is a monitor for every ring and I almost forgot exurbrent witness

[modest marsh]

Quiet can’t sustain any fire, Linda can

[carmine sleet]

@quartz willow Black Team encountered a monitor on one of the line installations

[quartz willow]

@carmine sleet did not know about that one

[modest marsh]

Lol they damaged him by combining their fire like power rangers

[quartz willow]

But any ways from the monitors weve meet 3 if the 5 have been either rampant or had the logic plague and the other 2 were to worried about there installtion to bother really with us except to drive the invading force off their world or ring

[modest marsh]

They even do poses while they shoot

I think we’ve just been relatively unlucky with interacting with Monitors so far

[humble yacht]

Quiet can take some shots

[quartz willow]

Like with Static Carilon and Exubrent Witness they only really wanted the promeathens off of their installations

[humble yacht]

Her parasites heal her

She also has the stealth and mobility advantage

[modest marsh]

Can’t heal if you destroy her whole head with one advantage

Not really

[quartz willow]

@modest marsh we dont know where the monitor if Installation 07 is he has been hiding from humanity because all attampts at contacting him have been ignored

From parts on the ring

[humble yacht]

Linda can’t go invisible without an armor mod

[quartz willow]

Partys my mistake at spelling

[modest marsh]

Linda has a significant mobility advantage and her VISR and motion tracking would easily keep her in sight

[humble yacht]

Linda also can’t jump as far as Quiet in a single bound

[modest marsh]

Yes she can dude lol

[versed helm]

is quiet a jackal?

[remote spruce]

Installation 07 monitor is good at hide and seek

[quartz willow]

Like with halo hunters in the dark they mention how the rings scouting parties were un able to locate the Installations monitor which ironically I believe is serial number us monitor 007

[modest marsh]

The Brink has Blue Team clearing a 28 meter jump onto a moving Mammoth

From a warthog of course

[humble yacht]

I’d need to see a visual of Linda jumping from ground level to the top of a mountain to match her with quiet

[modest marsh]

Quiet doesn’t jump that high from what I remember

[humble yacht]

Standing jump

Oh she does

Direct her to a sniping point and then just follow her movements

[modest marsh]

There aren’t any mountains in the phantom pain?

[humble yacht]

She has a super high vertical

[carmine sleet]

@quartz willow 07's monitor is 117649, 01 has the monitor known as 007

[versed helm]

so, did Beta, and Alpha company have the drug that makes them go crazy when their hurt? or was that only Gamma company

[modest marsh]

Unless you mean like a 30 meter cliffside

[humble yacht]

Sure, cliffsodes

[upper star]

Only gamma

[modest marsh]

At best that’s parity

[upper star]

And it was a drug to bring them down

[modest marsh]

But Linda can also fly...apparently

[versed helm]

Linda would be good at football

[quartz willow]

@carmine sleet thank you I know monitor 007 is a monitor of a ring i just cant remember which also do you know if humanity in halo has found Installation 03?

[humble yacht]

You said a 28 meter jump from a moving warthog. Was that a long jump or high jump?

[upper star]

The 'go crazy' thing was part of their augmentation which made them richer harder

[versed helm]

they should host a spartan 2 football match

[upper star]

Fight

[carmine sleet]

@quartz willow I do because it's in Halo 4

[modest marsh]

When I say 28 meters, I mean the height of the Mammoth

[upper star]

Stupid phone

[modest marsh]

They jumped a significant horizontal distance too but the perspective is weird

[versed helm]

y'all think halo infinite will be open world?

[remote spruce]

7 Broken iPod is the best monitor

[modest marsh]

https://www.halopedia.org/images/1/1c/HTfS_-_Mammoth.png

[versed helm]

instalation 07 monitor?

[quartz willow]

@carmine sleet ok I thought that was installation 05

[strong sage]

Another feat of quiet I remembered is that she sniped a jet pilot on a helicopter

[modest marsh]

Yes

[strong sage]

But then im sure linda done something more than thay

[modest marsh]

Eehhh

[versed helm]

linda shot a banshee, upside down, blindfolded

[quartz willow]

I believe one of the installations as so far been unfounded is that correct though @carmine sleet

[modest marsh]

Not blindfolded

[versed helm]

it wasnt?

im pretty sure ti was?

[vague scroll]

she shot a banshee pilot through a side slit, hanging upside down

[modest marsh]

^

[strong sage]

With one hand

[vague scroll]

take a moment to think about this? In what scenario would she be blindfolded?

[humble yacht]

Quiet can shoot between the space of max speed helicopter rotors

[vague scroll]

@versed helm

[strong sage]

And i assume the target was more than 1km yes? xd

[versed helm]

what moment would she be hanging upside down? @vague scroll

[vague scroll]

when she's inside a space station the size of a small planetoid with the ground meters below her and she's protecting here team down below as they prepare to destroy said space station

[versed helm]

darn

[vague scroll]

and there are banshees flying over and she needs to be able to snipe them but there's no surface to grab on to

[versed helm]

got me there

[vague scroll]

so she has to hang

This is all from Halo: First Strike

[versed helm]

i haven't read the whole book

of first strike, i have it

i feel people overrate John as a leader sometimes, as in, i feel Kurt was a better leader than john was

[strong sage]

I hope Colossus will appear on the forge mode in Halo infinite

[versed helm]

That would be cool, but unlikely

[strong sage]

Well all we can do is hope fam 😦 huhu

Wanna try dem rail guns

[versed helm]

and youre talking about the halo wars 2 collosus right?

[strong sage]

Coz i got the feeling that those are like onagers level firepower ish

Yes yes

[versed helm]

that will probably be scratvhed just like the gremlin, hawks, and allthose

i love halo wars 2 though,

i love rts games

[strong sage]

Well true can’t deny that

Ayee

[versed helm]

only problem i have is, i feel its unrealistic for Atriox to be able to break Douglas's arm

[modest marsh]

Why

[quartz willow]

Yes most likely the colossus will make appearances in other halo media such as the cyclops being mentioned in Halo the Flood before it was in Halo wars

[versed helm]

They have the whole carbide ceramic ossification drug, that makes their bones nearly unbreakable

[modest marsh]

Atriox can sidearm another Brute into a far wall

[strong sage]

I like what they did with the odsts during Hw2 , they are deployed in limited numbers etc

[modest marsh]

He’s incredibly strong

[vague scroll]

@versed helm nothing is unbreakable

[versed helm]

but also able to defeat 3 spartan 2's? whenever Jerome later was able to single handeldly kill like 20 elites and brutes?

[strong sage]

Im told that he was using his mechanical arm

[quartz willow]

@versed helm no it is very realistic brutes are stronger than Spartans in halo first strike john is overpowered and almost strangled to death by s brute

[strong sage]

Or some sort

[vague scroll]

Atriox is no ordinary brute

[modest marsh]

I mean

There’s context to that many people seem to miss

[vague scroll]

he's the natural eventuality of a society that believes in "might makes right"

[humble yacht]

Atriox has a cybernetic arm

[strong sage]

Yes!!! That one

[quartz willow]

And all of blue team are un able to help because they themselves are also being attacked by brutes

[humble yacht]

that arm is stronger than a normal brute arm

[strong sage]

Thanks fam

[modest marsh]

John and his armor were in the worst shape we’ve seen him in when he encountered that specific Brute

[quartz willow]

Chimera even without the brute arm he could brake Douglas arm

[versed helm]

i mean, jerome was able to defeat like 20 elites and brutes with just a shotgun

[modest marsh]

He’s faster

[quartz willow]

The cybernetic brute arm

[modest marsh]

Speed is life

[humble yacht]

Didn't jerome flee from atriox

[versed helm]

Jerome did most the fighting in that battle, alice only faced atriox like twice, while jerome was always in there

[quartz willow]

Yes atriox is smarter than the Spartans he is also stronger and tougher and has fought many humans before during the human covenant war

[versed helm]

no

[humble yacht]

i guess all Mark IVs look alike

[versed helm]

Jerome did most the fighting

alice was on the ground the whole time

[quartz willow]

The Spartans have never had hand to hand combat with a brute before

[strong sage]

Intelligence+Strength=Atriox

[vague scroll]

@humble yacht if you don't mind me pinging you, they don't

[modest marsh]

I choose to believe that scene pays homage to the concept of Spartan Time from the Nylund novels

[vague scroll]

due to Halo: Fall of Reach the movie adaptation

[strong sage]

But if somewhat Red Team are using GEN 2

[versed helm]

I hope Omega team has a larger role in future games

[strong sage]

Can they beat atriox with that?

[vague scroll]

@strong sage no one has GEN2 in Halo Wars 2

[versed helm]

Red team is so outdated

[modest marsh]

Their armor would’ve been modified after they first faced Atriox

[quartz willow]

And in halo wars multiplayer judging how the brute cheiftan can just slap the he double hockey stick out of Spartans than yea I'd be willing t beat he was able to take down Douglas with ease

[strong sage]

Yes yes i know that fam , but supposedly if they are using that thou

[vague scroll]

and GEN2 is not better than GEN1 by a wide margin

[modest marsh]

Well

[stoic hamlet]

Gameplay =/= canon

[vague scroll]

its simply an improvement on technology

[stoic hamlet]

That Red Team v Atriox fight isn’t that great for both parties

[modest marsh]

Mark V and VI are better than Mark IV by a wide margin

[stoic hamlet]

They made a lot of mistakes

[versed helm]

How equal are spartan 4s to spartan 2s in this case?

[vague scroll]

GEN2's easier to put on and take off, cheaper, more widely specialized, and half the weight

[versed helm]

i mean red team vs a spartan 4

tech and skill wise

[stoic hamlet]

But less protection @vague scroll

[vague scroll]

GEN2 equalizes the capabilities between IIs, IIIs, and IVs

[modest marsh]

I haven’t seen proof GEN2 weighs less

Or that

That seems baseless and self contradictory

[versed helm]

so, a spartan 4 would be able to beat a member from red team?

[stoic hamlet]

A II or III stomps a IV out of armour

[vague scroll]

@modest marsh its been described to be around 500 lbs

[modest marsh]

Where?

[versed helm]

Gen2 is canonically lighter

it's been stated in several places

[modest marsh]

Buck says it’s 500kg

[versed helm]

in new blood he does @modest marsh

[humble yacht]

GEN2 bridging the gap between ability levels of IVs and IIs is in the official description of the armor generation

[quartz willow]

@stoic hamlet res but it is undoubtable that atriox won that battle and the best part is he was able to sneak up on the Spartans even though hes a thousand and a half pound beast

[versed helm]

if it were 500kg no spartan could wear it

[modest marsh]

Couple hundred kilograms can mean any number

[strong sage]

How about the Atlas class armor since it said it was made for a spartan to be a walking tank so i assume they have much more durability

[vague scroll]

@versed helm GEN1 was a metric ton

[versed helm]

you're thinking 500lbs

[modest marsh]

Mark V was 320kg

[versed helm]

yeah.

he says it in new blood, i have the book right next to me

[modest marsh]

Plus occupant is 450kg

[versed helm]

yes, but not 500kg by itself

[vague scroll]

Spartans are only slightly heavier than regular people

[quartz willow]

Yes no way

[vague scroll]

heck, the IIIs weigh the same as regular people

[modest marsh]

A Spartan is generally regarded as a half ton, and their specific masses aren’t exactly consistent

[stoic hamlet]

@quartz willow he was yes, but there were a lot of things both he and Red Team@could have done better. Especially that one scene where they start to retreat and no one fires at him......for some reason

[modest marsh]

Fred is ~600kg total in Retribution

[versed helm]

When? @stoic hamlet

[stoic hamlet]

During Red Teams fight with Atriox

[modest marsh]

At which point he should be wearing GEN2

[quartz willow]

@stoic hamlet yea that was really stupid on Jerome's part he could have gotten a headshot but nope he decided he was just gonna aim at him and walk away

[stoic hamlet]

It’s why I don’t like that fight

Red Team was totally gimped and acted stupid

[strong sage]

I guess thats the “Live to fight another day” kind of moments

[versed helm]

Jerome is probably the only capable one out of red team @quartz willow

[modest marsh]

They need to hire people who know how to reasonably choreograph a fight

What?

Alice is a monster dude

[vague scroll]

@versed helm where did you come to that conclusion?

[versed helm]

why sint she the leader then?

[remote spruce]

Imagine Spartans with backpacks like Army Troopers

[modest marsh]

Leadership is not the end all be all

[stoic hamlet]

Being a leader isn’t about fighting

[gaunt karma]

they're all badass

[versed helm]

theres a reason Jerome is in the spotlight compared to the rest of them

[strong sage]

Being the leader doesn’t necessarily means they are the best thou to be fair fam

[quartz willow]

But I also understand it he didnt want to risk missing and have atriox kill them instead of injury Douglas @versed helm no I wouldn't say that Alice was able to hold a beach against wave after wave of banished forces coming out of the ocean

[gaunt karma]

leadership is not the only quality of badassery

[vague scroll]

@versed helm no, there really isn't.

he's just the character they chose to be the main focus of Red because he's the leader

[modest marsh]

And yeah arguably Alice kicks the most butt individually out of any of the Spartans

[versed helm]

then how come when the flood outbreak happened, Serena only released Jerome?

[vague scroll]

and that was written in the Halo novels

[stoic hamlet]

@versed helm Ash was leader of Fieteam Saber despite Holly being the far better CQC fighter, because Holly isn’t leadership material. (Using them as the example here)

[gaunt karma]

Jerome was released due to instructions that he set

[vague scroll]

because she didn't need more than one Spartan

[gaunt karma]

he asked to be released when Anders woke up

[vague scroll]

and he's the one giving the order

[versed helm]

i know that aprt

part

[vague scroll]

there is not evidence saying he's the only capable one in Red Team

[versed helm]

jerome was punching flood with a freaking chair...

[stoic hamlet]

@versed helm Fred is better in hand to hand than John, why isn’t he leader?

[vague scroll]

that's a rather shallow assumption to make

[gaunt karma]

only Jerome woke up because they knew they wouldn't need to bother waking the other two up, one Spartan-II is enough

[stoic hamlet]

Linda’s a better shot

Kelly’s faster, etc

[versed helm]

because fred has respect for john, even though fred outranks john, @stoic hamlet

[gaunt karma]

they could all punch the Flood with a chair

[versed helm]

^

[remote spruce]

Jerome's chair is the best thing in Halo

[versed helm]

^^

[vague scroll]

Fred has been leading Blue Team from 2553 through 2558, he was doing fine

[gaunt karma]

Adriana punched grunts with a Mongoose in Cole Protocol

[modest marsh]

I agree, more Spartans should use chairs

[versed helm]

^^

[strong sage]

Forge and Jerome has the same rank guys? Or jerome outranked him

[vague scroll]

but Chief is a better leader that doesn't mean Fred is incapable at all

[versed helm]

add chairs as a weapon in infinitE??

[stoic hamlet]

Meaning...... @versed helm leadership doesn’t equal skill

[gaunt karma]

I mean, we have the golf club

[modest marsh]

Jerome has been elevated to the rank of Commander

[gaunt karma]

when's the chair coming

[strong sage]

@gaunt karma isnt that the one she used the mongoose as a baseball bat? xD

[stoic hamlet]

Unofficially @modest marsh

It’s a field promotion

[modest marsh]

Semantics

[gaunt karma]

yes, her :p

[versed helm]

What rank are the spartan in red team?

spartans*

[stoic hamlet]

Petty Officer

[vague scroll]

ranks don't decide skill either

[stoic hamlet]

Unknown class

[strong sage]

Well i was really curious at one cutscene where Jerome called Forge sir , so i thought forge has higher rank than him

[modest marsh]

It’ll stick if UNSC ever reintegrates into a functional military structure

[remote spruce]

Commander Carter yet ingame, Carter can't kill to save my life

[strong sage]

Or probably he said that as a sign of respect to him

[stoic hamlet]

He does IIRC, at that point

[vague scroll]

@remote spruce gameplay isn't canon

[gaunt karma]

calling Forge sir may also be a respect thing

[modest marsh]

^

[versed helm]

i think thats just plot @strong sage

[stoic hamlet]

Forge was a higher rank, though the sir is incorrect as Forge was a Noncom

[remote spruce]

True, Jun shoots me but canonically Jun is a good shot

[gaunt karma]

I've seen a lot of videos of military people calling people sir or ma'am just out of respect even if the person is a civilian

[versed helm]

they all listen to forges orders thogh?

[strong sage]

Ahhhhhhh that explains ^~^

[stoic hamlet]

Because Forge outranks them

[modest marsh]

Forge is given unofficial command as an impromptu officer by Captain Cutter as the only thing preventing his promotion to officer is his record

[stoic hamlet]

But he’s not an officer

[modest marsh]

They treat him like one

[versed helm]

Dont technically all spartans lead on the battle field?

[stoic hamlet]

Yes but he isn’t one. But him not being an officer doesn’t mean Red Team outranks him

No

[strong sage]

Oh yeah now that u mentioned it he was supposed to be prmotoed

[remote spruce]

Forge should've been higher than sarge

[versed helm]

as in theyre naturally a higher rank?

[stoic hamlet]

They aren’t

[vague scroll]

@versed helm the Spartans follow Forge because he's the senior NCO on the Spirit

[gaunt karma]

if there isn't a commissioned officer or other leader higher rank than them, then Spartans would probably lead

[modest marsh]

It’s part of his backstory

[stoic hamlet]

@versed helm every S-2 was a nom-com, at most Corporal comparatively

[versed helm]

And then it got passed to Jerome? @vague scroll

[vague scroll]

Ye

[stoic hamlet]

Aside from John and eventually Fred

[versed helm]

Isn't Jerome, John, Fred, and Kurt, the best leaders of spartan 2s?

[stoic hamlet]

Yes

[vague scroll]

"best" is subjective.

[remote spruce]

Private 3rd Class /s

[stoic hamlet]

But they still follow chain of command

[versed helm]

you know what i mean @stoic hamlet

[stoic hamlet]

I do

[quartz willow]

@stoic hamlet Red team was also comprised of Spartans that were killed during the augmentations but were recieved due to cryo treatment

[versed helm]

"Washouts"

[quartz willow]

Revived

[humble yacht]

Fred is technically the highest ranked Spartan, but he defaults to Chief's leadership because he trusts him

[quartz willow]

Yes

[strong sage]

Well Apart than Omega team i hope keiichi lives

[stoic hamlet]

But them being the best doesn’t mean they don’t obey he chain of command

[versed helm]

How do they get revived?

[vague scroll]

if your employer told you to do something that seemed stupid, you still have to do it or you're going to get fired - Spartans are in a military organization, they're going to follow orders either way

[quartz willow]

@versed helm it isn't explained alot

[vague scroll]

@humble yacht highest-ranking "living" Spartan

NOBLE Team technically out ranks him

[quartz willow]

Yes

[humble yacht]

hard to take orders from dead people

[versed helm]

Fred is the highest ranking spartan no?

[quartz willow]

@versed helm that is alive

[strong sage]

Wait isn’t Kurt a commander also?

[stoic hamlet]

If Kurt (pre Onyx) is ordered by a Sergeant to do something he does it, because said sergeant outranks him.

[versed helm]

kur tpromoted fred

[stoic hamlet]

He was a Lieutenant Commander

[strong sage]

Ahhh

[vague scroll]

Kurt is dead @strong sage which is what people were also explaining

[versed helm]

i feel kurt is a better leader than john

IMO

[stoic hamlet]

He is, but it’s relative

[vague scroll]

And even if Jerome outranked Forge previously, in ship senority, Forge is the highest ranking NCO on the ship

[stoic hamlet]

He’s better at the bigger picture

[versed helm]

how outdated is the spirit?

[stoic hamlet]

The Ender to John’s Bean

[vague scroll]

@versed helm older than the Covenant War itself

[humble yacht]

very outdated

[strong sage]

Century i assume? But refitted

Back during interplantery wars yes?

[vague scroll]

no

[stoic hamlet]

Not that old

[versed helm]

halo wars one was before halo CE right?

[stoic hamlet]

Yes

[vague scroll]

yes, 2531

[stoic hamlet]

^^

[versed helm]

so yea, before the war

[stoic hamlet]

No

[vague scroll]

during the War

[stoic hamlet]

The war started in 2525

[versed helm]

will SOF be in infinite maybe?

[vague scroll]

2525 is when the HCW began

@versed helm doubtful

[stoic hamlet]

Probably not

[versed helm]

i want it though, i want a FPS of Jerome

[vague scroll]

no logic in terms of storytelling for it

[humble yacht]

Depends if Infinite takes us to the Ark

[versed helm]

^^

[humble yacht]

SoF ain't leaving the Ark

neither are the Banished

[stoic hamlet]

Yeah they’re stuck there

[versed helm]

So, halo wars 3 is just banished again?

they dont have anders anymire

[vague scroll]

it makes little sense to suddenly drag the story to or from a different narrative

Halo Wars 3 isn't coming

[strong sage]

But anders managed to called the unsc right judging from the last cutscene?

[vague scroll]

not until they announce it

[humble yacht]

not necessarily

[vague scroll]

right now it doesn't exist

[stoic hamlet]

She got intercepted by a Guardian

[versed helm]

there will be a halo 3 though

halo wars 3

[humble yacht]

Guardian might have intercepted the signal too

[strong sage]

Ooo yeaah emp

[humble yacht]

nah

[vague scroll]

If Microsoft and 343i decide its not worth the costs, they're not going to make it

[humble yacht]

if it did, just classic radio jam

[stoic hamlet]

We don’t know that

[vague scroll]

just because there was a Half Life 2 doesn't mean there will be a Half life 3

[stoic hamlet]

There almost wasn’t a Halowars 2

[versed helm]

they wont jsut get rid of red team @vague scroll

[stoic hamlet]

No but that doesn’t mean they’ll make another game

[vague scroll]

if they decide that Halo Wars 3 isn't a worthwhile game to make, they'll shift them to books or comics

its cheaper than making a game

[stoic hamlet]

^^

[vague scroll]

that's what happened with Halo 4's Spartan Ops mode

it became the comic, Halo: Escalations

[strong sage]

Oooo eascalations is the continuation for ops i see

[vague scroll]

because the funding for more seasons of Spartan Ops just wasn't there

[versed helm]

i want the animators who did halo wars 2 for infinite

[vague scroll]

@versed helm It's Blur Studios, but Blur is really expensive

[versed helm]

but its worth it for a game like infinite

[vague scroll]

they did Halo 2 Anniversary as well

not really, Halo 5 already showed that 343i can do cutscenes themselves

[versed helm]

action scenes though...

[vague scroll]

you say its "worth it" is an opinion, not a fact

[versed helm]

halo 5 was the biggest catfish of all time

[strong sage]

Can’t wait to see cutscnes with slip space engine xd

[versed helm]

^^

[vague scroll]

The thing about Halo 5's animation is that 343i has its own inhouse animation company, Axios Animation

they don't need to hire Blur but if they want to, they will consider it

Blur however has a tight schedule because they have more projects than just Halo

[versed helm]

they did halo wars 1 also yea?

[strong sage]

Well on the other note we still waiting for the news regarding on teh upcoming Halo series

[vague scroll]

They did cutscenes for Destiny, Far Cry 5, League of Legends, Tomb Raider, halo Wars 1 and 2

Halo 2 Anniversary

but they also worked on movies like Deadpool

[versed helm]

destiny 2?

[vague scroll]

Yes

[stoic hamlet]

The did Star Wars stuff as well

[vague scroll]

And they did James Cameron's Avatar, the Batman Arkham game trailers, Star Wars the Old Republic, and that new Netflix anthology series

Love, Death, and Robots

they have a long list of customers, 343i isn't the only one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blur_Studio

[versed helm]

i want red team in more games though

i feel they will in the future

they already have them in H5

and andrea back on earth or wherever

anders*

[vague scroll]

Anders isn't anywhere near Earth

[versed helm]

i said or wherever

[vague scroll]

she teleported her ring to the previous place of Installation 04

Halo 5 was not done by Blur, that was Axios animation - 343i's in house animation studio

[versed helm]

i know

didn’t say they did halo 5

[vague scroll]

sorry, correction: Axis Animation.

They did Halo 4 and Halo 5

and Halo Discord doesn't like the Halopedia link again

[humble yacht]

link cooldown

space out your links

[vague scroll]

got it

I'll wait 5 minutes if no one talks

see if that works

https://www.halopedia.org/Axis_Animation

[junior tapir]

Man It’s just sad what happened to cpt keyes

Like I legit feel sad for him

[stoic hamlet]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.vg247.com/2019/04/11/halo-tv-series-may-shift-dates-locations-ethnicity-characters/amp/

[carmine sleet]

There was already a discussion about this in general, I recommend you go read it

[stoic hamlet]

Ah I wasn’t aware, thanks!

[boreal bane]

Copy / paste from GD

Repeating what I said earlier today - I don't see anything inherently wrong with what she said. Also it's likely a very small slice of her presentation and it's been taken out of full context

Frank made some comments on Resetera that are worth reading
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-halo-tv-series-“may-shift-dates-locations-or-ethnicity-of-characters”.110949/#post-19746083

Spoiler content of that post for anyone that missed it:
I won't be commenting on any of this for a while - but we're not going to do stunt casting or shifting ethnicity of characters just for lulz or clicks or controversy. Kiki is right on the money in that we'll be casting based on who works best for the role, period. We will also be casting people who look and sound a lot like their existing characters are described or shown.

[obsidian thistle]

Yea tldr. Dont worry about it atm.

[last anchor]

(Singsong voice)
Nooooottt our problem

[zinc bone]

How did the ark end up outside of the milky way? were the forerunners simply capable of intergalactic travel?

[last anchor]

They slipped out via ftl. Then the built it there.
Really, its not that complicated, its not like you cant slipspsace outside of the milky way.

Its not even the furthest they've gone, Im pretty sure Audacity's trip to Path Kothoekna or whatever was

[versed helm]

was Cortana wanting to kill the infinity

at the end of H5

[limpid kernel]

did tyou know blur studio also did shadow the hedgehog

oh wron channel

hey

how do halo shotguns work

the shot spreads but how does it do that with one little barrel or whatever

[terse gale]

The same way normal 12 gauges work, lol

[glass patio]

Question

End of Halo 3 ~Master Chief~ Wake me when u need me>>>Fast Forward armor changed WTFreak

How did cortona change his ARMOR

[terse gale]

Ask 343, lol

[limpid kernel]

nanobots

[last anchor]

Nanite self repair, built-in surgery arms for the cryopod, an entire ships worth of dead computer systems and a lot of free time on her part

[terse gale]

Nanite what

[soft quail]

What's the canonical weight of a Spartan II in mjolnir armor?

[terse gale]

Half a ton

[soft quail]

Amazing that warthogs don't roll over as much from being so top heavy with a 3 Spartans onboard

[terse gale]

They wouldn't be top-heavy, lol. Those tires be digging deep with all that weight on em

[soft quail]

It rides pretty high though

[last anchor]

The suspensions forgiving

[celest island]

I am back from the dead

With a new profile picture

[quartz willow]

my man @celest island

[versed helm]

Be honest with me,should i touch the Kilo-5 Trilogy?

[gilded mason]

From my perspective: no, and you could get the pertinent information from wiki summaries. Though this is as somebody that really didn't like that series.

[versed helm]

The Halsey bashing was annoying

[humble yacht]

If you know there is halsey bashing, doesn't that mean you're already familiar with the trilogy?

[versed helm]

And how the Trilogy revealed that ONI is too dangerous

And it revealed that ONI played a huge role in Blooding Years,especially when they supplied weapons to Sangheili factions that opposed the Arbiter

I do wonder,how is ONI gonna deal with the whole Created garbage

[remote spruce]

Mac Blast III and Raid II

[versed helm]

Besides the Huragok...what other weaknesses do the Guardian Custodes have?

It'll be awesome if we could play as Spartan IIs in Halo infinite's multiplayer

[gilded mason]

I mean, not like there's any visible differences.

[unique rune]

Erm. Not sure how that'd make any difference, but alright.

[versed helm]

One of the things that I would like is a co op campaign separate from the main campaign with new characters

Kinda like what splinter cell has

I could see a co op campaign that leads up to the main story

I still want a game centered around the Human-Forerunner wars

[vague scroll]

@versed helm "Unknown, Spartan." (in reference to asking about weaknesses of Guardians, as far as we know, no other weaknesses)

[versed helm]

How would you have written the story for Halo 5

[gilded mason]

"Better"

[versed helm]

Cortana should STAYED dead

I do wonder...how would they bring back the Ur-Didact?

[gilded mason]

I'm guessing some kind of robot body at some point.

[humble yacht]

commune with him via terminal

[remote spruce]

Like Endurance of Will

[gilded mason]

That might work too

[remote spruce]

Big bad Knight but super orange

[humble yacht]

I don't think he needs to come back in physical form, necessarily

might be more compelling to see him disembodied and vulnerable

[versed helm]

I still can't help but wonder...besides humanity and the each of the Covenant races that were subjugated over the years...what other alien races fought the Covenant?

[gilded mason]

I do not believe we know.

[humble yacht]

The Forerunners subjugated the Prophets long before they formed the Covenant

[gilded mason]

I think he was asking about conflicts after the reseeding.

[humble yacht]

probably

but I'm just offering what I know

[versed helm]

I mean,it;s possible that the Covenant encountered numerous races during their galaxy wide search for the Halo Installations and either subjugated them or destroyed them if they messed with any Forerunner relics

Since the Sangheili,before their encounter and subsequent war with the San'shyuum,colonized numerous worlds..what if they colonized planets that were already inhabited by other races

[gilded mason]

I think in Broken Circle, it was mentioned that Crecka encountered a hostile alien race.

[versed helm]

I still like to know which race attacked Crecka in the System of Miasmic Giants

[fair hazel]

Theres a number of people that actually enjoy the Kilo Five trilogy

[gilded mason]

Well, yeah.

[fair hazel]

read all the books

[versed helm]

K-5 is underrated on its merits.

But it does take characters and bend them in an uncomfortable way to make its points.

And it's got just a bit too much downtime for my tastes.

[patent shuttle]

K-5 handled the human element of Halo really well, in my opinion

[versed helm]

Why did the forerunners make the installations able to support life?

[gaunt karma]

why not?

[versed helm]

I've always imagined that it's in order to disguise their true nature.

By the standards of Forerunner interstellar constructs, the rings are kinda unassuming.

The ruse could be that they're posing as orbital habitats or something.

It's why Bungie did it, after all. To further the mysterious element of what exactly a Halo was before the reveal.

But Michelle also has a point.

The Forerunners were far from above doing something for the simple sake of aesthetics, and some odd sense of naturalistic morality.

[gaunt karma]

disguising their true nature could be a good reason too

[vague scroll]

Because the rings were also to be used as nature preserves, in part to help them perform experiments to seek cures for the Flood

[hasty geyser]

Is anything known about Ilsa Zane before being augmented?

[vague scroll]

You can’t exactly study and store humans in a metal chamber and expect them to develop very well

@hasty geyser we don’t know much at all about her before augs

[hasty geyser]

Aight cool

[versed helm]

The forerunners are so mysterious, as in why they did some things, they were able to defeat the precursors, which shows how powerful the flood were to have to basically suicide

[vague scroll]

Or. How arrogant they were. The Forerunners defeated the Precursors thousands of years before the Bornstellar Trilogy.

There were technology and knowledge dark ages of several magnitudes over the course of the Forerunner civilization - they forgot how or where they beat the Precursors. And they found technologies they had no longer access to later on.

The technology and status of the Forerunner civilization may have just as much stagnated as much as they were the top dog in the galaxy for a time.

They became complacent, but not only that, their war with the Humans greatly weakened their war machine and that put them at a disadvantage against the Flood.

The Flood is terrifying but it’s more complex than that the Flood was more powerful, part of that Forerunner’s defeat occurred because of other factors.

[last anchor]

It was a game on multiple fronts.

And the Flood outplayed them on all of them

[versed helm]

How come the advanced race of the forerunner wasn't able to? they had to of had way better technology, and Humanity was able to distinguish them, obviously theyre still out there, but out of sight

[gaunt karma]

wasn't able to what?

[versed helm]

Defeat the flood

[gaunt karma]

because it caught them off-guard

[umbral junco]

Forerunners aren’t you know, Gods

[gaunt karma]

they didn't realise it, and by the time they did, they'd already lost a number to Ancient Humans and the Flood were consuming more and more of them because they didn't realise how serious the Flood was

[carmine sleet]

Not to mention that the Flood had Mendicant Bias helping them for the majority of the Forerunner-Flood War

[gaunt karma]

also that, they lost a lot of their fleet because of Mendicant Bias, since it controlled a lot of it and was turned by over by the Primordial-Gravemind

if I remembered correctly, that is

[vague scroll]

The Gravemind also turned the Forerunners on themselves and each other. The reason the Ur-Didact in Halo 4 is so monstrous was because of his encounters with the Gravemind who drove him insane. The Gravemind twisted the logic in his adversaries, turning them into traitors, saboteurs, lunatics, and ill-focused. Mendicant Bias turned tail, Faber the Master Builder became delusional. The Didact turned his army of friends and family into cold-hearted war machines and he failed to abandon a twisted conception of the Mantle of Responsibility.

[autumn urchin]

what happened to the primordial gravemind

[vague scroll]

The Flood are powerful, but its not their strength that makes them powerful, it is the schemes and tricks of the Gravemind that turned the Forerunner civilization in on itself.

@autumn urchin He was put in a time chamber and then the Didact accelerated the passage of time inside the capsule until the body disintegrated

in the end, its conscience simply woke up inside the body of the Gravemind

[last anchor]

The Primordial became the full tool of the Forerunners annihilation

[versed helm]

what happened to the maethrillian? was it destroyed by the flood?

or is it just lost?

[humble yacht]

the capital city was attacked by Mendicant Bias during the war; it was hit with a tactical firing of Installation 07

that was a major blow to the Forerunners

after the war, IsoDidact went back the Maethrillian to investigate the Organon, and ultimately reset the Domain so it could begin healing

I don't think anyone in the UNSC or Covenant remnants knows of its location

[versed helm]

how could the most advanced forerunner AI be turned by the gravemined?

[humble yacht]

logic plague

a 43-year-long philosophical conversation where the Gravemind convinced MB that the Flood was the ultimate state of evolution of life, and that the Forerunner's resistance to it was hubris

[versed helm]

its crazy how the flood is so intellegient

[humble yacht]

well, for one thing, it's part Precursor, which were practically gods.

and for another thing, the Flood gains more intelligence for everyone it absorbs

[versed helm]

Precursors became the flood right?

[gilded mason]

Yes

[versed helm]

Wasn't it a mutation?

[humble yacht]

Some Precursors turned themselves into dust, with the intent that they would reconstitute their physical forms some time in the future

however, time and turmoil ultimately corrupted that dust, so that instead of turning back into Precursors, it became what would eventually be known as The Flood

[versed helm]

Was Mars terraformed in Halo?

[gilded mason]

Yes