#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 172

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 12:52 AM

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A lot

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 12:52 AM

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At least 2.

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 12:52 AM

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probably more

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:52 AM

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They're not very independent, though.

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Imagine...

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 12:52 AM

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probably

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 12:53 AM

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since it's earth, you can probably just assume the current reality

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but forward 500 years

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:53 AM

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^^

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Well I mean, you reckon Commonwealth of Australia circa-2552 could just chuck out the UNSC's headquarters if it wanted?

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I imagine not.

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there are other important colonies though

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like reach was so important

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we are not sure

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 12:54 AM

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we don't know, because it's not entirely that important to Halo as a whole since it's about aliens

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:54 AM

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^^

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Pull a Florida from rvb

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:54 AM

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haha

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i like that reference

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Since you're a bit of politico, Arrow, I like to imagine that all the stagnating super-blocs that exist today broke down during the interstellar tumult and the UNSC is really a result of creative middle powers pulling together.

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Which is why Australia and South Africa are so prominent, for example.

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Don't think so.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Not really.

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Cept for Beamish stuff.

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Or the Beamish thing, more accurately.

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The poem from Evolutions xD

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I disagree.

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I miss kurt guys

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i want him

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Stick to STUFF that's actually happening, please.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 12:57 AM

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You think sergeant Forge can be retconned back?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Imagine if the UNSC cloned marines

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 12:57 AM

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@soft quail pls no

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:57 AM

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we don’t have that technology

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They'd all be weak as HECK and die

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Because Halo cloning is imperfect

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 AM

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They would basically perform as well as Spartan 3s did ayy lmao

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 AM

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I like that whole ideal of flash clones

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 AM

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too soon magic

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too soon

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Also I think Marines are way better representing a huge ethnic and cultural diversity.

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Technology is too weak, they just die and parents dont bat an eye

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Expendable clones

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Because they really show what the UNSC's all about.

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Which is the human race.

fair hazel Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 AM

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It'd be unethical

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Their names would be replaced with a number

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I'd hate it

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 AM

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This sounds familiar.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:59 AM

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there’s no need to anyways, Marines are stronger than covenant ground forces by far

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 12:59 AM

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This isn't the clone wars m8

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:59 AM

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I'd go so far as to say that just considering it is making me a tiny bit angry rn

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 12:59 AM

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unethical
For an organization that made child soldiers and fooled the parents into believing their kids were dead?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:59 AM

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UNSC just lacks in the navy aspect

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Not unethical so much as opening a whole host of philosophical problems.

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unsc doesn’t need cloning

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Is the UNSC capable of creating something similar to the death star?

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They're called super MACs.

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Or NOVA bombs.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Considering that Infinity was able to plow through a super carrier with zero damage, probably.

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Or NOVA bombs.
😔

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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What about a planet killer?

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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zero damage cause shields

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Considering that Infinity was able to plow through a super carrier with zero damage, probably.
That was not a super carrier

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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NOVA bombs.

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unsc just lacks in the navy compared tot he covenant

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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the UNSC have planet killers

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Like starkiller base?

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NOVA bombs can destroy planets.

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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what Grim said

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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while the unsc smacks on the ground

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A powerful enough MAC gun could also probably do the same.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Exterminatus time >:)

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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The UNSC plays with a lot of technology that could absolutely destroy a planet

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halo3??

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that’s just halo 3 dude

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The only thing keeping Halo's firepower in check is the vacuum of space

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One malfunctioning fusion reactor destroyed a Halo ring

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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The Flood are basically galaxy-killers

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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depends, one human could kill a flood form and save the galaxy

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Weird how that blew up Halo but infinity only put a car sized hole in the didacts ship

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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but if you let them expand, they’re unbeatable, by logical measures

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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there is a difference there

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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@soft quail Infinity's laser vs a thermonuclear bomb

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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between a fusion reactor and a Mac

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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^^

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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a lot

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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At least 10

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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I'm not joking when I say that

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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Billion

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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arrowtongue, it’s too hard to know

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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Minimum, a few billion

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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What's the UNSC equivalent to a star destroyer?

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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How many moa?

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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a ship

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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nova bomb

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Like

fair hazel Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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I guess cruisers?

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Considering that most colonies were on the verge of open revolt, conducting a census would be difficult

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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A Marathon-class or Autumn-class, yeah.

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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probably

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it's an animal

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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people are asking too bad of questions in the chat

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Probably would be a covenant ship since unsc uses ballistics

fair hazel Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Yep

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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nothing says it can't be eaten

fair hazel Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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WEll the moa have big wings

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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@versed helm Agreed.

fair hazel Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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But they did eat moa

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Have S'Moa

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Moa survived, they were shipped offworld as well.

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Became a very expensive delicacy too

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:05 AM

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@versed helm it's imperative to the story that we know how edible the fauna are

fair hazel Apr 8, 2019, 1:05 AM

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There were also moa burgers

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Now I want a moa burger

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:05 AM

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same

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:05 AM

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unknown

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:05 AM

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you can see some of this on ODST, in some of the buildings it says now food

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@simple locust these questions are irrelevant

fair hazel Apr 8, 2019, 1:06 AM

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But even if we say the cruisers are the equivalent of a star destroyer, the cruisers do possess the capability of destroying them and tend to be better star ships in many aspects. Particularly the autumn

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Not in ODST

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 1:06 AM

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Did the Covenant ever invade Mars considering it was an industrial world?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:07 AM

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they didn’t receive any augmentations

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"Powerful" is not a useful measure for conceptualizing Halo realistically.

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They were probably more capable in specific circumstances.

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ODSTs are very direct-action orientated.

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ORION augmentations seemingly allowed candidates to operate in ways that exceeded human capability subtly.

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johnson was an ORION member to put into perspective

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S1 were physically more capable than ODSTs in direct comparison based on the speculation of their augmentations

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https://www.halopedia.org/

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i would say if an ODST group faved spartan 1s, the ODST would win

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Why wasn't there a lot of Spartan IIs?

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😃

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and not any good armor

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:08 AM

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cause they were killed

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:08 AM

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because of budget @versed helm

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 1:08 AM

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@versed helm because many were killed in augmentation

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:08 AM

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because of genetics

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:09 AM

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Only Spartan 2s and 3s got the cool armor.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:09 AM

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etc

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That may just be because ODSTs are terrifying individuals with no fear and an appetite for destruction

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only the perfect human could of been used

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The Flood helljumpers FTW

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S3's didnt get the cool armor at all

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spartan 3s got cheap armor

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because the were canonfodder

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I'd like to see Spartans become more mass produced

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:09 AM

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4s got SPI armor though?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:09 AM

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only special cases were issued mjolnir

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:09 AM

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Spartan-IVs

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:09 AM

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@versed helm Spartan 4's

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@versed helm spartan 3s and 4s are

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I know but more

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:09 AM

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are literally mass produced compared to the previous iterations

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:09 AM

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^^

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3's werent really mass produced

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they were just less risky

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spartan 2s are still amazingly stronger

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Plus, Spartan techs are trickling back to less-augmented personnel.

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in every way

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MJOLNIR tech working its way back to conventional body armour.

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:10 AM

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if you want there to be more S-IVs, then just imagine there's a bunch more

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not that hard

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Spartan IIs are all basically Doom guys.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:10 AM

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not really

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I'd say no more than 10,000

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As buck says it, Spartan 2s are the gods, Spartan 3s are the gods children, and the spartan 4, are just meta gods

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That's reputation, though.

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Not capability.

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spartan 2s are significantly better in combat

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SIII outclassed every other in terms of raw capability

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 1:11 AM

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Is their reputation not based on their capability?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:11 AM

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S-IIs are always going to be more capable through experience, though.

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:11 AM

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if there are, they're dumb

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:11 AM

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^^

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no spartan 4 can probably defeat a 2 in conventional means

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no spartan 4 can defeat a 3 in conventional means

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^^

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I mean, I'd guess a Spartan IV old hand - especially former ODSTs - might get the jump on one.

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no

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Given mjonir armor @versed helm

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It's just that aggressive mentality.

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in raw hand-to hand

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they physically dont match the strength

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Some colonists tried diplomatic relations with the covenant upon first contact. They were the first to get glassed

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:12 AM

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I just want to inform you all

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Spartan 4s all admit to being worse @versed helm

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That all Spartans in MJOLNIR are very similar to one another strength-wise.

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Mjolnir Gen2 adds extra support to the user since SIV dont have as extensive augmentations

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And you can't point to any specific technical lore that tells me otherwise.

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that’s also why locke has to pull his gun and that armor lock on chief

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:13 AM

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no

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I don't think he is

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:13 AM

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S2/3 in mjolnir Gen2 outclass a S4 in Gen2

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buck says it in new blood many times @versed helm

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In your interpretation. It's not canonical fact.

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it adds additional enhancement to strength

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Experience does outrank everything.

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S2/3 are already stronger

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That's where their capability stems from.

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 1:14 AM

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I understood that reference

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:14 AM

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Could a spartan 4 defeat someone like Jerome? with old Mjonir armor?

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enhancing what's already there is more of a normal basis

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Uuuh, whatever. Y'all can think what you want.

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:14 AM

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probably not

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:14 AM

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But I remember Buck's lines distinctly and it's reputation-wise.

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Jerome or Locke? in a battle?

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And it's from a potentially flawed perspective.

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it's not hard to deduce that since it's stated about Gen2 @versed helm

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couple that with the different augmentation programs

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There’s a reason why all of Glue teams weapons are Mythic weapons also

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Gen2 was designed to be equivalent to Gen1 but for a less augmented individual

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blue*

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You want to deduce it because the S-IIs are legend, which I totally understand. John will forever be my favourite S-II, and the S-IIs will always be the most capable.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Whichever Spartan gets a hold of the CE pistol wins, hands down.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 AM

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no

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i could care less who's legend

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But in raw biometrics, Spartans are very close together in MJOLNIR.

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not “humans”

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 AM

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I see your CE Magnum and I raise you, Nornfang

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One shot beats three

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Different. Species. Of. Humans.

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^^

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:16 AM

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This ain't warhammer

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:16 AM

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@simple locust so are you just going to shoot random questions which you could find out about with a quick halopedia search, or actually discuss something

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Think about that for a second Arrow.

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^^

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i see we have a dumb AI in the chat

radiant sphinx Apr 8, 2019, 1:16 AM

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@versed helm ouch

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:16 AM

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humans are humans

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doesnt matter pre-war or post

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Darn right

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post-war humans use the same genetic makeup as pre-war

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He meant the re-seeding, imo.

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And we were only re-seeded back to Earth as far as we know.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Pretty sure the 100,000 BC humans are the exact same as 2550 humans genetically

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:18 AM

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But even if other humans went down a slightly different path elsewhere, first off, the timescale is not enough

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And second, they're still humans.

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but back tot he Spartan 4 vs Spartan 2 arguement, because it’s one of my favorite subjects

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Obviously not

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Like, why

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Is that a StarCraft reference?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Why was Russel-052 in Nightfall able to retire??

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someone answer me

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that

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:20 AM

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He had a good 401k built up

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:20 AM

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@versed helm who?

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did you ever watch night fall? @versed helm

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There are no furries in Halo.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Ha!

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Humans in Halo are very... human-loving.

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That's why I love Halo so much tbh

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Huh

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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@versed helm you mean Randall?

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Halo's humanity has all the perspectives I want modern humans to have.

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someone answer my question about russel

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It inspired me.

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yes @versed helm

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there is no 'russel' in nightfall

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i meant randall

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originally he was going to be killed by oni

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Nihilism and immenent destruction?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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but they werent able to

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do spartan 4s have Ids like 3s and 2s!?

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so they let him retire on the agreement he have his augmentations removed

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no

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they have their original serial number

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Name and tag

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so like 96969263955181439352026?

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they're non-conscripted

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hence why John has the highest rank available to a S2/3

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normally

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Kurt's an exception

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no, technically fred is a higher rank

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but theta john lead because of respect

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lets*

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Wait what? Noble 6 was a Lieutenant which outranks Master Chief

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:23 AM

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kurt promotes fred before he died, so the spartan had someone to follow

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again, there are exceptions in cases

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and also Noble 6 was a spartan 3, technically spartan 2s overall have more authority

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what’s Jerome’s rank?

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:24 AM

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waiting for arrow to ask another redicoulous question

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:24 AM

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^^^

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what’s jerome’s rank? if anyone’s know

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Here we go boys

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Yes

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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#general-chat

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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I'm skeleton #70 billion on Earth while Halo is taking place

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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@simple locust go to general discussion for this

remote spruce Apr 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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@versed helm Commander, sort of

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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is that lore? or just for game? @remote spruce

remote spruce Apr 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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lore

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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gotcha

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i call elites split-lip

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they get offended

remote spruce Apr 8, 2019, 1:32 AM

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blarg

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:32 AM

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I feel entitled to one dumb question:
Warhammer Space Marine squad vs Spartan II squad.
How quickly do the Spartans die horrible deaths?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:33 AM

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very quickly, warhammer is supposed to be as powerful and OP as possible

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it’s in no case, realistic

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what do you mean by lasers?

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:34 AM

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type of plasma
Plasma is a state of matter, how can you have different types of plasmas?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:34 AM

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lasers are light

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spartan lasers obliterate most people in one shot dude

remote spruce Apr 8, 2019, 1:34 AM

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i mean, somehow there's red and blue plasma

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:35 AM

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different elements

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different visual outcomes

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:35 AM

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It's still plasma though.

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It's all one kind of thing

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:35 AM

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i mean, a spartan laser kills anyone in one shot

remote spruce Apr 8, 2019, 1:35 AM

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plasma does more damage to shields in gameplay

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:35 AM

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that’s the only case of lasers in halo really

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lasers aren’t used in halo, that’s star wars thing

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:36 AM

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Canonically, an unshielded human can have their arm blown off by a single plasma rifle hit, or take several. It's very inconsistent.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:36 AM

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Samuel gets injured by one plasma shot

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:37 AM

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The armor costs as much as a cruiser for a reason

nimble tinsel Apr 8, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Completely forgot about this tough bastard. https://www.halopedia.org/Marvin_Mobuto

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:37 AM

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this was before they had shields @soft quail

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have to remember, not all Mjolnir armor has had shields

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spartans were way more agile though

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compared to now

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unsure

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forerunners use hardlight

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which isn’t laser

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Forerunners took a ton of technology from the precursors though

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:39 AM

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it says it in the name

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^^

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"Hard" "Light"

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literally that

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^^

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:40 AM

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Walking on sunshine in a most literal sense

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:40 AM

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Thanks for having common sense @versed helm i love you

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👍

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Theoretically

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Photons held in a particle-manipulation field similar in nature to that of energy shielding or active camo.

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I believe they're all derived from the same Forerunner tech.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:41 AM

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I wonder if arrow is actually HaloFollower researching for a video

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:41 AM

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hahahahah

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IS Chief actually

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An Ape-person

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what?

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@soft quail that implies halofollower's videos have truth in them

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Will he unlock his secret feces-slinging super powers

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please tell me that’s a joke

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Do GRUNTS eat MOA burgers?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:42 AM

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yes

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grunts probably barely know what a MOA is

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Yep. It's Chris.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:42 AM

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He runs a business?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Lukethenotable is good

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but now he only does fortnite 😦

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for lore

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Holy crap, fortnite has lore?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:43 AM

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No Lore Youtuber is good.

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Read it yourself

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:43 AM

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I would counter with Arch Warhammer

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I like him

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Arch Warhammer is so, utterly trash it hurts.

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halo canon is very good

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:43 AM

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He's like an audio book.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:43 AM

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As a Bretonnia fan, I feel physically sick when I watch his videos on it

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they do get some things wrong though

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He knows nothing about what he's speaking

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Oh. I don't watch his Warhammer fantasy stuff

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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He spits a lot of faulty headcanon

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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I just like him summarizing books for me that I don't want to buy

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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And his real life political views are reprehensible

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Well, yes

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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would the rookies of become a spartan 4?

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Kinda a doofus, but I generally agree with him. On the Act Man.

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rookie*

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Probably.

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Actually, yes.

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beta company had the worst death

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by far

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project torpedo was a disaster

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Arch Warhammer.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Is that the guys who fell out of the pelicans?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:45 AM

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please talk about warhammer somewhere else

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Not the time or place, I just had to say it.

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But he things the opposite of what your average 26th century human would about most hot-button modern issues.

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Hahaha

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He does bite on every dog whistle

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:47 AM

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i miss the old covenant, the new sangheli isn’t correct by lore, whatsoever

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@versed helm Save us.

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and spartan 4s shouldn’t be able to do that much damage

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at all

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you're our only hope here

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:47 AM

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I do miss old elites

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:47 AM

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343 made the covenant too weak

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:47 AM

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The new ones are just weird looking brutes in function and form

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:47 AM

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new sangheili isnt correct by lore?

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in which way

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do 'splain

simple locust Apr 8, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Didn't they change them in Halo Wars 2?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:48 AM

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a team of spartan 4s destroy an army of covenant without one injury or even being hit? and then kill the arbiter? no

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halo wars 2 is different

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halo wars in general is

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Is Halo wars canon?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:48 AM

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i mean, different phenotypes could mean a lot of different things

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yes

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:48 AM

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they didn't kill the Arbiter, wut

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:48 AM

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juul means

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mdama

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he wasnt an arbiter

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jul mdama

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lol

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:49 AM

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that's a leader, not an Arbiter

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:49 AM

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gotcha

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:49 AM

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It would make sense for the covenant remnants to have their own Arbiter

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:49 AM

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thel still is

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Thel still holds the title

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i miss the shipmaster guys

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i want him back

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what’s his actual name?

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Just retcon him back like spark

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:49 AM

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They did kill AN arbiter

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 1:50 AM

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what’s his actual name?
Rtas 'Vadum is the guy from Halo 2 and 3. You mean him?

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 1:50 AM

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I thought there was only one arbiter at a time?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:50 AM

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yes

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@gilded mason

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he’s still alive, no?

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Yes

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:50 AM

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he is, yes

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who’s the shipmaster from Halo wars?

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@gilded mason how do you do that comment thingy where it shows the comment

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 1:51 AM

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who’s the shipmaster from Halo wars?
Let 'Volir

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:51 AM

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also, John Forge killed an arbiter as well @versed helm

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Also three of these: `

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:51 AM

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dont forget that

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he killed Ripa 'Moramee with his knife and Ripa's own energy sword

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that was kind of Plot armor though

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eh

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not necessarily

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:52 AM

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We have any idea what the strength of the remaining covenant fleet is? Were they not all hunted down by angry Arby after the events of Halo 3?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Y'all can thank me later for taking that bullet.

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as an arbiter, Ripa could have very well underestimated him

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@versed helm im thanking you now

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swords of sanghelos or the actual covenant?

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🙏 bless

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:53 AM

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@versed helm TYFYS

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:53 AM

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@versed helm what bullet?

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dont ask

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oh?

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keeping secrets from me now?

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it might bring ricochet back

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i'll dm

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 AM

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I kind of feel like it's my fault somehow.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Just move on.

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Use the new life you've been given to talk about Halo.

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Sensible Halo things.

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Like projection sights

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What are they

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How do they work

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:55 AM

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So how about that new installation in Infinite?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:55 AM

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flood comeback?

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How do they relate to "predicted weapon impact points/aka normal reticles".

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Neural physics.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Pretty sweet and I hope so, btw.

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i think it's just another implementation of it

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Are those the floaty bits forerunner sights?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:56 AM

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uh oh

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what? @versed helm

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SHHHHH

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 1:57 AM

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sergeant major, phantom! get down.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:58 AM

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rip cat

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Yeah.

pearl plinth Apr 8, 2019, 2:04 AM

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so

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just a question

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but whats yalls favorite halo book

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Broken Circle.

pearl plinth Apr 8, 2019, 2:05 AM

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i havent read that one yet\

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im reading bad blood rn and its pretty good

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Throw-up between Contact Harvest, Silent Storm and elements of The Flood.

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For me.

pearl plinth Apr 8, 2019, 2:05 AM

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but my favorite is defo fall of reach

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:05 AM

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ghost of onyx by far

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Fall of Reach kinda has to be by default.

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It's responsible for modern Halo.

pearl plinth Apr 8, 2019, 2:06 AM

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yeah its really good

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:06 AM

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It's an astounding bit of science fiction.

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ghost of onyx is amazing, also i love kurt

pearl plinth Apr 8, 2019, 2:06 AM

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but i like all of the original ones

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Contact Harvest

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for me

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:09 AM

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@gaunt karma never heard of that one

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 2:09 AM

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book that shows the very very beginning of meeting the Covenant

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2525

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I've read all the books up to Glasslands (besides the Forerunner ones) and I think Fall of Reach or Contact Harvest are my favorite. Or First Strike. Cole Protocol is good too

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Ghosts of Onyx is phenomenal

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Kurt 😢

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 2:10 AM

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the first aliens of the Covenant that humans 'officially' met were brutes

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:10 AM

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They unofficially met Jackals, lol

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 2:10 AM

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ye :p

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:10 AM

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And thought Jackals were the only aliens

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 2:11 AM

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yup

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:11 AM

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That one's a Tarterus origin story too, I liked seeing some Brute background

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:11 AM

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i wanted kurt in a game @terse gale

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Ghosts of Onyx is amazing and sad af, especially the Spartan III program

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:12 AM

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spartan 3s are really a tragedy

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Tom and his squad were like a little Blue Team 😢

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Was Tom his name? Whichever squad had "O" in it

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:13 AM

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yes

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tom and lucy were the only surviving members of beta

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:13 AM

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O was so much like a mini Linda

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:13 AM

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besides the people pulled like noble 6

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:14 AM

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I still don't know how Noble Team fit into the universe, lol. The game's lore makes no sense to me

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:14 AM

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how come?

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Like, people tell me Noble is a bunch of III's but the III's didn't happen til Reach fell

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Spartan-IIIs were a thing years before Reach.

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Plus their age wouldn't make sense

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III's were kids

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Spartan-III was initiated very shortly after Spartan-II.

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:16 AM

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III's were teenagers by Ghosts of Onyx and didn't wear Spartan II armor tho

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Beta Company was combat ready by 2545.

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:17 AM

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III's were trained in the light power armor

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Some special gorups of spartan 3s worte mjolnir

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:17 AM

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IIIs were generally issued SPI, but, yes, select teams were issued MJOLNIR.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Noble team was made out of the best spartan 3s, and a spartan 2

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:18 AM

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The age thing still doesn't make sense tho, unless Noble was the only surviving squad from the first group of III's

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Noble was composed of individuals taken from Alpha and Beta companies.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:18 AM

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all of noble team were from alpha company except for noble 6

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Plus Jorge.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:19 AM

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noble 6 was beta, but didnt participate in operation torpedo

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:19 AM

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Beta company didn't get recruited til Alpha got wiped out tho

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So what, 6 is like 17 at most?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:19 AM

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noble team was pulled from oni to not participate in operation uppercut

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if im correct

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Uppercut was all 12 year old kids tho

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:20 AM

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so was beta

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:20 AM

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UPPERCUT involved... no twelve year olds.

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 2:20 AM

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You got the name wrong. Uppercut was Noble's strike against the Long Night of Solace
Your thinking of Operation Prometheus or Operation Torpedo

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:21 AM

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ohhhh yea im thinking of prometheus

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the battle alpha company fell

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:21 AM

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All Spartan-IIIs would have been around 20-30 by the Fall of Reach.

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Yeah, so how are they the ages they are in Reach if the game takes place before Ghosts of Onyx, which had 12+ year old Beta members

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Onyx had Gamma

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:21 AM

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^^

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Yeah, those were Gamma Company.

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Remember, Kat was from Beta company. so was Six

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:21 AM

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no kat was alpha no?

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Tom was Gamma?

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Kat was Beta Company.

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Nope. Kat was Beta, Six was Beta, Tom was Beta

unique rune Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 AM

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B320, if I remember correctly.

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 AM

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There are no Gammas in Reach

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Aye

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 AM

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tom was beta

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Yeah, and Tom is like 14 in Ghosts

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 AM

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No hes not. Your thinkig of Ash

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Well, hes 6, then hes 12, then he's almost 20

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 AM

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because operation torpedo was before reach

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Torpedo was in the late 2530s

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Huh, its a real world operation too. An FBI sting

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July of 2545.

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Tom and Lucy were the only Torpedo survivors, right? And she went mute afterwards. And they were kids. I didn't think there was that big of a time jump between then and Onyx

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 2:25 AM

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"How do we know that we're alive?"

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Sighs
I'm gonna have to read that friggin book for the 8th time, lol

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:26 AM

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lmao\

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anyone wanna play halo wars 2? im bored

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Lucy was mute, then Halsey made her mad enough to speak again, then shes perfectly lyrical in Legacy of Onyx

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Mind you that IS almost 5+ years later, so

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:27 AM

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How damn is a bad word is beyond me, lol

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I died laughing when she got mad at Halsey, lol

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:27 AM

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everyones been mad at haley lol

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halsy

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Yeah, somebody should give her a hand for how mean she is 😏

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:34 AM

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i wonder if she’ll go to jail or anything because of the spartan 2/3 program

terse gale Apr 8, 2019, 2:35 AM

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If she hasn't yet she probably won't be, lol

remote spruce Apr 8, 2019, 2:35 AM

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she kinda did

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:36 AM

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she did?

remote spruce Apr 8, 2019, 2:36 AM

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It was more of a "You have to work here now"

deft grotto Apr 8, 2019, 3:23 AM

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That was after the whole thing where Palmer tried to kill her so I don’t really think Halsey was very happy about cooperating

iron trout Apr 8, 2019, 4:15 AM

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watching halo nightfall rn, are there other species than humans that are allied with humans?

soft quail Apr 8, 2019, 4:18 AM

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...the swords of sanghelios??

humble yacht Apr 8, 2019, 4:18 AM

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I don't think SoS existed at the time of Nightfall

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maybe they did. not easily able to find the year Nightfall takes place

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 4:19 AM

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maybe they did. not easily able to find the year Nightfall takes place
2556

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So SoS was already formed by then

humble yacht Apr 8, 2019, 4:21 AM

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that answers that

iron trout Apr 8, 2019, 4:23 AM

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the bomb that went off in the city only affected humans, does that mean there are other humanoids living in the outer colonies?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Guess so

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But Nightfall was 2556 or 7 because there was Locke and Vale together in there

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Vale was not in Nightfall.

tardy topaz Apr 8, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Lololol

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 5:09 AM

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~~all spartans look the same, clearly that mjolnir has 0 customization~~

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jokes aside though, yeah Vale was never in nightfall

iron trout Apr 8, 2019, 5:18 AM

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so does that mean Spartans aren't considered human?

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Why do you ask that?

iron trout Apr 8, 2019, 5:23 AM

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because im curious

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Spartans are human.

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Could UNSC marines survive against an army of battle droids?

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Sure.

stoic hamlet Apr 8, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Probably but maybe not

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.....damnit

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Well, UNSC Marines can survive - to an extent - against the Covenant, who I see as being a fair bit more scary than battle droids.

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M118 FMJ-AP ammunition can shoot down banshees if the user's good enough at putting down accurate sustained fire, it just struggles against energy shielding.

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So I doubt droid armour would be that much of a problem.

upper star Apr 8, 2019, 6:55 AM

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Plus the UNSC marine has pretty good marksmanship principles, better than what we see in SW anyway. Also considering they honed their skills against the covenant, I think even SBDs wouldn't be that much of a hurdle. While commando droids would be like fighting really annoyingly nimble skirmishers

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 10:33 AM

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It depends on how big the armies are

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If they're relatively even in size, the marines have the edge

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 11:38 AM

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So the big question now is
Is someone from Noble team gonna be in halo lore (No june)?

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 11:39 AM

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He is the only one alive so I don't see how would someone else from noble team come back

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 11:41 AM

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Naw naw naw That aint true Lmao.
I mean they can take a energy sword to the chest and survive. They got a self filling medkit in their suits meaning they can survive a energy sword put through their chest. But they have to get to a hospital and get themselves surged up in the 48 hours afterwards or really die

boreal bane Apr 8, 2019, 11:41 AM

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It's true, Jun is the only surviving member of Noble Team

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Emile died to an energy sword actually

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You can see his corpse

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And medkit is only in new Spartan armours like in Halo 2

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 11:44 AM

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No i mean different medkit

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I mean the one that fills up your body parts

grand yew Apr 8, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Ye

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Those were always included if a energy sword or any big object would hit your internal organs

grand yew Apr 8, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Ye

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 11:47 AM

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i would gladly see from where you got this info
In Reach Spartans must use medkit on the battlefield because they lack the medkit in the armour, this went away with Halo 2 and further thanks to that improvement

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Its the emergency organ failure system implemented during mark IV production

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:10 PM

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It didn't work for emile it seems

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:15 PM

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Maybe it did? Oni wants to know your location

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:16 PM

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@dim imp he is correct on the biogel front

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:16 PM

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Well, if the internal organ was hit by the energy sword, what would you do "if" it cauterized it

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:16 PM

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all mjolnir variants were equipped with biogel/biofoam injectors

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but emile's injury was too traumatic for it to save him

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:17 PM

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6 his wound was not though. He might have gone ko and got rescued by a survivor

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:17 PM

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Ah right thanks for the info
However I don't see why 6 would also survive if he was hit the same way, so, about the first idea, there is no other living member of noble team

boreal bane Apr 8, 2019, 12:17 PM

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https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/characters/emile-a239

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DIED:
AUGUST 30, 2552

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:18 PM

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You know, he was surrended by many covie at this moment

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Why would they let him leave ?

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:18 PM

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We know

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:18 PM

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the thing with N6, he didnt just get stabbed once

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he was attacked by several elites (with more likely off camera as well)

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:19 PM

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@dim imp he told them to leave him

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:19 PM

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lmao

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i know that many people wants him to be alive somehow, but he died, that's the truth, accept it 🤔

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Nope. Spartans never die

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Just like George, he gone, no coming back

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Thats a different story

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:21 PM

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That's what ONI wants you to know

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:21 PM

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you know at this rate, let's just see a definitive scene of the recolonization of reach, pan down to where his helmet was, then display his armor partially buried under the dirt, with definitive spartan-tag visible but faded

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Was no recolonisation tho

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Jorge is dead, Emile is dead, Carter is dead, Kat is definitely dead, B312 is dead

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:22 PM

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With the aid of his team, Noble Six delivered the AI intact, but chose to remain behind to secure the Autumn's escape from the Covenant. ***Though the Spartan was killed hours later***, his sacrifice allowed humanity to discover the Halo Array, ultimately bringing about the dissolution of the Covenant and the end of the war.

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According to halopedia

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:22 PM

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yes, reach was recolonized in the 2580s

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Kat is definitely dead true

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Braindead

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:22 PM

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body-dead

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all around dead

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all of them

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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shot through the head, and you're too late, darling you give deaths a bad name

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Kat.EXE stopped working

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Too bad she deactivated her shield somehow

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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She dumb

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Kat.exe stopped working when she entered a vehicle and drove

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Or maybe it was the glassing

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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i have a feeling it was due to the excavation beam from the corvette

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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EMP effect or stuff

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Nah the glassing doesnt deactivate shields

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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@versed helm Sounds about right

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:24 PM

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ionized the air and cycled her shields fully

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:24 PM

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There was a explosion

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That explosion did that

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:24 PM

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wasnt an explosion

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Right before the glassing yeh

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:24 PM

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it was the excavation beam from the cruiser

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it itself WAS the glassing

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Ironic, the glassing broke the window glass

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:25 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/emile-spartan-halo-reach-death-gif-5406479

stark epoch Apr 8, 2019, 12:25 PM

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uny

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:32 PM

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Do we want to mention the fact that Cortana was born in a Forerunner structure but when she comes across a ring she's like "wow, what the heckin heck is that! bet do a search!"

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:34 PM

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All forerunner facilities aren't halo actually

gaunt karma Apr 8, 2019, 12:34 PM

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^

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:34 PM

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truue

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well, if she was created by forerunner technology with Halsey Cells, you'd think she'd have some sort of technological memory of some forerunner thought right? but instead she's a blank canvas with printed memory and keen knowledge of Halsey

carmine sleet Apr 8, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Cortana wasn't made with Forerunner tech

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:46 PM

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Cortana was made well before the UNSC or ONI even knew who the Forerunners were.

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:49 PM

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"Dr. Halsey split a fragment off of Cortana to aid in deciphering vital information gleaned from a massive Forerunner artifact located beneath ONI’s Sword Base."
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/characters/cortana

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Why did you delete your admission that you were wrong?

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:52 PM

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because im ashamed of my lack of lore

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:52 PM

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"Dr. Halsey split a fragment off of Cortana to aid in deciphering vital information gleaned from a massive Forerunner artifact located beneath ONI’s Sword Base." => doesn't mean she is made with forerunner tech

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:54 PM

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guys i'm sorry about my lack of lore, i'm dealing with a lot of things IRl, i just need an escape 😥

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:54 PM

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That's alright

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Wait what, it's not a problem if you don't have lore knowledge lmao

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:54 PM

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We'll happily fill you in on anything you don't understand

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 12:55 PM

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We are here to discuss about lore so we can learn from each other

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We are not here to judge people

hardy goblet Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 PM

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❤

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 PM

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trust me, we've seen plenty who know less than you

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we dont judge if you know less

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 PM

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I know it's just been so long since i picked up the controller and read the subtitles and paid attention to small details in game, I'm currently going through some personal issues but can anyone fill me in on any infinite news

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 12:58 PM

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we simply help you understand knew knowledge

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I mean, if you want a fuller understanding of the lore, Halopedia is your best bet.

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along with the books themselves

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The lore is scattered across many different mediums

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halopedia's an excellent supplimentary to the media for furthering knowledge

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Books are for people with expendable income

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 1:01 PM

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I currently have no source of income...

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 PM

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You can check halopedia for free then 👍

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Or just listen to the audiobooks that are just up on youtube with seemingly no effort on the part of Microsoft to take them down, somehow.

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 1:03 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 1:05 PM

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guys these are really great, thanks for your help...but im gonna have to come back later...

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 1:05 PM

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No problem

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:25 PM

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sup

hardy goblet Apr 8, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Hey

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Does somebody know where I can find a good chronology for the books ?

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I was following a website which seems done, and just finished Retribution

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:30 PM

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cool

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:30 PM

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There's a playlist on yourtube that has the audiobooks in order

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:31 PM

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ok

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 1:40 PM

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can i get any emotional support for a hot sec? is this a nice enough server?

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:40 PM

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yes

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:40 PM

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probably

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Maybe not on this channel but we'll see

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:41 PM

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ok

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:41 PM

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ok

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 1:42 PM

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okay, i just recently got out of a serious relationship and i just need emotional support

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:42 PM

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ok go ahead

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:43 PM

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this is some pretty deep lore. im intrigued

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lmao

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 PM

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ok

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true

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 PM

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What's wrong with you

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 PM

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who me

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Yes, you

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 1:45 PM

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I'm honestly heart broken, it was just out of the blue

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:45 PM

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nothing just being bord and helping people out

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 1:46 PM

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If you're bored you can do other stuff than saying "ok" for no reason

edgy briar Apr 8, 2019, 1:47 PM

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alright

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brb

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 1:48 PM

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atleast you guys tried

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 1:49 PM

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I never had any relationship like that so I can't help, sorry

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 1:50 PM

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it's fine, i mean atleast you tried

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 1:59 PM

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@dim imp exactly

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Another one to block I guess thinkingchief

boreal bane Apr 8, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Don't do that please

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:01 PM

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I don’t think it’s that serious, Bapt

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I just think it’s kinda annoying

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 2:01 PM

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It is, indeed

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:01 PM

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imma type it again

boreal bane Apr 8, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Don't

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:02 PM

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see pins in #471742309994594326

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why not

boreal bane Apr 8, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Back to lore discussion please

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Alright

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Um

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Halo rings are being destroyed oh noes 😔🙌

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:o

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And the covonant is taking ober

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Curse tose covonuts

boreal bane Apr 8, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Seriously, knock it off

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:04 PM

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K

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So um, the ring that Halo Infinite is on

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 2:04 PM

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What about it ?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:05 PM

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What’s the lore behind it?

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I heard it’s the last remaining ring out there or something like that

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 2:05 PM

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No, every halo are fine, only 04 and 04-B were destroyed, except the ones destoyed during the forerunner-flood war

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Ohh

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Basically, the Forerunner bombed humanity into primitive hunter gatherer society and put the survivors on a ring. This is that ring

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Interesting

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 2:06 PM

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What ? Then how do you explain that humanity was on earth ?

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:06 PM

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They put some on earth later

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 2:06 PM

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oh ok

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:08 PM

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But not before torturing them in the palace of pain

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 2:08 PM

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What is the palace of pain ? :°

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Basically the Forerunners were using humans in experiments to try to find a cure for the flood.

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Oh my

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Flood was smart, pretending that humans were immune to it...
The intelligence of the flood is what make them scary

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 2:17 PM

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That’s kinda cool

viscid wren Apr 8, 2019, 3:01 PM

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ugh I looked up one little thing I was curious about in halo lore and now I have 8 tabs of halo fandom open

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send help

versed helm Apr 8, 2019, 3:05 PM

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lol

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Halopedia is better

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 3:06 PM

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^

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Careful with the Halo Fanon stuff. Its...well fanon. So

carmine sleet Apr 8, 2019, 3:27 PM

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Yeah, I once had someone try to use it as evidence in a discussion and I quickly noted that it wasn't actual canon

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Fist Full of Arrows got brought up a lot before Juns survival was confirmed

viscid wren Apr 8, 2019, 3:28 PM

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yeah I've just transitioned to halopedia. I've noticed factual differences, although very similar wording

obsidian thistle Apr 8, 2019, 3:31 PM

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The Fandom Halo Wikis content is merging into Halopedia

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Just so ye know ;)

carmine sleet Apr 8, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Oh, I was talking about Halo Fanon Wiki, not the Fandom Halo Wiki

viscid wren Apr 8, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Yeah i just wanted to know what part mendicant bias played throughout the games, (I'm not very halo lore savvy - I only read the fall of reach) - and now I'm reading about the Mantle and human covenant wars and ughgh this is so exhausting

carmine sleet Apr 8, 2019, 3:36 PM

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I recommend watching the videos done by Halo Canon, he's got the best lore videos out there

viscid wren Apr 8, 2019, 3:36 PM

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lol the first suggestion that came up after typing in "halo canon" on youtube was "mendicant bias"

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guess I'm not the only curious one on that subject

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 3:38 PM

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About mendicant bias, he is mentioned only once as i remember, in halo 2 in High Charity mission
When Cortana says that an AI prevents her to stop the firing of the dreadnought

viscid wren Apr 8, 2019, 3:38 PM

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yeah, that's how I got onto it

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 3:38 PM

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He is not directly mentioned but that's him

carmine sleet Apr 8, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Then he also communicates through the terminals in Halo 3

viscid wren Apr 8, 2019, 3:39 PM

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@carmine sleet I can't see anything by Halo Canon on Mendicant bias actually?

dim imp Apr 8, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Terminals are weird because they change depending of the difficulty

viscid wren Apr 8, 2019, 3:40 PM

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I tried hidden xperia and halo follower but my ears are not a fan of either of their voices or styles of presentation

carmine sleet Apr 8, 2019, 3:48 PM

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@viscid wren I meant more for lore in general

viscid wren Apr 8, 2019, 3:48 PM

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gotcha

humble yacht Apr 8, 2019, 4:04 PM

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H3 final terminal suggests that MB is the reason Chief is able to escape Installation 08

royal spear Apr 8, 2019, 4:06 PM

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What did it say roughly?

obsidian thistle Apr 8, 2019, 4:09 PM

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I'll get the quote brb

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Something along the lines of "I see you Reclaimer. I will make amends for what I did by helping you get off here and sending you to Requiem."

obsidian thistle Apr 8, 2019, 4:10 PM

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"And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions.

But I would have my masters know that I have changed.

And you shall be my example."

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 4:10 PM

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There we go

obsidian thistle Apr 8, 2019, 4:11 PM

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That quote also puts into question MBs fate.

humble yacht Apr 8, 2019, 4:11 PM

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I like to think he died

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a final atonement

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adds gravitas

obsidian thistle Apr 8, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Did it die on I08 or was it only the fragment that was used to communicate that was destroyed.

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Either way MB is out the picture

humble yacht Apr 8, 2019, 4:12 PM

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afaik the fragment on the Ark joined with the missing fragment when Truth brought the Dreadnought to the Ark

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Then when he says "You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer", it suggests he actually relocated to the ring

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Which would make sense if he was trying to hold the ring together long enough to let Chief escape

obsidian thistle Apr 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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As said it only put into question his fate. ;) Regardless MB wont becoming back unless 343i decide to. And even then its a lot for fans to take in. Something 343i are evidently looking to avoid.

humble yacht Apr 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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I really wouldn't like that

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Surprise revivals aren't very compelling

obsidian thistle Apr 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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I wouldnt mind it myself. But it would have to be done really well to avoid confusion.

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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The rage against Blue Team alone was proof of that...

obsidian thistle Apr 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Guilty Spark in Primordium still confuses folks. Despite it being clear what happened.

humble yacht Apr 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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For me, it's less a matter of clarity and more a matter of seemingly reversing story decisions to create the ability to take the story further, rather than inventing entirely knew avenues

obsidian thistle Apr 8, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Well when Halo finally moves beyond the year 2610.... (Something I always say cause the Halo story has been stuck at that year since Halo 3)

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But in all seriousness I just want Halo to move beyond that year to have no limits bar past events. And have new opportunities to advance the story.

viscid wren Apr 8, 2019, 5:34 PM

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alright so I just spent 3 hours reading about halo lore

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I should probably just read the books.

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are the forerunner focused books any good?

humble yacht Apr 8, 2019, 5:43 PM

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A lot of people seem to like them

spiral cape Apr 8, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Ghosts of Onyx was really good

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The Mortal Dictata trilogy is another really good one

cerulean sand Apr 8, 2019, 6:18 PM

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what's ghosts of Onyx?

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like what's it about?

carmine sleet Apr 8, 2019, 6:20 PM

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The planet called Onyx

vague scroll Apr 8, 2019, 6:31 PM

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It was the first ever introduction of SPARTAN-IIIs to the Halo Universe

spiral lily Apr 8, 2019, 6:33 PM

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@spiral cape Finally!

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Someone who agrees with me about the Kilo-5 Trilogy

vague scroll Apr 8, 2019, 6:36 PM

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there was an interesting discussion about it late last night on Halopedia's discord, its certainly a polarizing trilogy of books nonetheless

stoic hamlet Apr 8, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Was part of that discussion, can confirm it’s a very polarizing series

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There’s like fifty different camps of people

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Some hate it entirely

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Some kinda hate it but not really

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Some adore it

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Some adore one book but hate others

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Etc

quartz willow Apr 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Anyone here read silent storm recently

gilded mason Apr 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Yes.

quartz willow Apr 8, 2019, 7:33 PM

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It's a very great book I personally believe especially how they dont flat out name the species has if the Spartans would already know them

spiral cape Apr 8, 2019, 9:28 PM

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@spiral lily loved those books. Probably read each one of them in less than a week

quartz willow Apr 8, 2019, 9:33 PM

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@viscid wren cant blame you with halo follower

last anchor Apr 8, 2019, 11:36 PM

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No kidding

plucky gulch Apr 9, 2019, 1:03 AM

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Hahaha

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Halo Follower is great at reviewing the books and not giving too much

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Silent Storm was an amazing read. It didn't get dull, it had a bunch of nods and great action with an amazing story. I highly recommend reading it.

spiral cape Apr 9, 2019, 1:08 AM

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What are the collections of short stories called? The first volume had a great story about the flood that was actually pretty creepy

unique rune Apr 9, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Evolutions?

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 1:13 AM

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I recently purchased the comic based of the Fall of Reach book. If any one has the chance to buy ir please do so. The art is amazing plus the story is well put even for so short lines for dialogue

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Based on*

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It*

unkempt kettle Apr 9, 2019, 1:36 AM

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When did silent storm come out?? wtf

gilded mason Apr 9, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Back in September.

soft quail Apr 9, 2019, 2:54 AM

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What was the comic book where a Spartan team went in and wrecked the covenant through a mineshaft while cooperating with insurrectionists?

remote spruce Apr 9, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Collateral Damage?

soft quail Apr 9, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Yes. Loved how the rebels who stuck their necks out for the team got completely screwed in the end when the pelican crew refused to pick them up

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"oh hey, we have room to pick you guys up buuuuut, no. Smell ya later, losers."
Abandons them to their fate

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I'm starting to understand why the UNSC was dealing with so many rebels

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Wonder if they'll pop back up after the dust settles post Infinite

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Was the UNSC pre-covenant war authoritarian in nature?

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Trying to rack my brain on how ONI was predicting inevitable multiple revolts with casualty estimates in the billions

remote spruce Apr 9, 2019, 3:04 AM

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kinda

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colonies couldn't be independent and all that

soft quail Apr 9, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Couldn't?

remote spruce Apr 9, 2019, 3:05 AM

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nope, all colonies had to be under the UEG

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this meant taxes and laws and many didn't like that

soft quail Apr 9, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Billions of casualties, though?

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What the f, were they just going to Nova bomb the rebels?

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I guess the Spartan program was aimed at minimizing the collateral damage

remote spruce Apr 9, 2019, 3:09 AM

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the theory was that the insurrection would cripple humanity

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so the spartans were meant to stop that

soft quail Apr 9, 2019, 3:10 AM

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"Noble 6 made entire insurgent groups disappear"

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Maybe the DMR was make for the Spartans to dink heads using the least ammunition.

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An in game mission against humans would be really easy with pistol and DMR

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Yo

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Who wants to get into a lore breakdown chat with me

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I was discussing with a friend of mine about the spartan 3 program which Halsey was not mainly in control of

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What I understood about the program it was virtually "designed" as a suicide program since many spartan 3 were sent to their deaths on reckon and almost impossible to win missions

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I do not know the details tho, all I know is what I red on the Halo Mythos book

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Either way my friend dosgradreed with me saying that could not be true since many of the survived and the only would not do such things as to send an entire spartan generation to their deaths at no gain knowing how powerful they were compared to regular marines so sending spartans to suicide missions is an illogical use of military resources

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What do you all have to say about this?

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Many of them*

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The ONI*

gilded mason Apr 9, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Rich scowled at this and his forehead wrinkled. "Suicide missions." 

"High-value targets," Ackerson countered. "Covenant targets. The battles we have won against this enemy have come at unacceptable losses. With their numbers, their superior technology, we have few options against such a force, save extreme tactics."```

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Oh wow. That you for that @gilded mason

gilded mason Apr 9, 2019, 3:55 AM

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👍

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 3:55 AM

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You have made my case

gilded mason Apr 9, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Indeed

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Where did you get that tho?

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Which book?

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thinkingchief

gilded mason Apr 9, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Ghosts of Onyx

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Thanks

deep pewter Apr 9, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Ghosts of Onyx is the best Halo book tbh

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Does any of you have information on medicant bias?

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Is it true she was a forerunner AI and that it became later what the covenant believed to be "the Oracle"?

remote spruce Apr 9, 2019, 3:59 AM

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blarg?

gilded mason Apr 9, 2019, 4:01 AM

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MB was a Forerunner AI, yeah. He was made to combat the Flood but later joined them, making a real mess of the situation.

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 4:02 AM

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She joined minds with the first known gravdmind isnt it?

gilded mason Apr 9, 2019, 4:03 AM

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I wouldn't say he joined minds, but they did converse for about 40 years, with the Gravemind/Primordial convincing him of the Flood being the better beings.

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 4:04 AM

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He repenting at the end

gilded mason Apr 9, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Yes.

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 4:07 AM

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It is really interesting medicant bias story. All of them really. AIs and monitor alike have a unique perspective on the war

viscid wren Apr 9, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Wasn't "atonement" the only thought MB was allowed to think being captured after the forerunner covenant war? That's the way it was worded anyway. Doesn't sound like genuine repentence to me

errant cobalt Apr 9, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Ok

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Hi

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Hello

errant cobalt Apr 9, 2019, 11:10 AM

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Hi

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 11:10 AM

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I am a flood expert if I do say so myself

errant cobalt Apr 9, 2019, 11:10 AM

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Nice

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@quartz willow isn't there some precursors still alive?

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 11:11 AM

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I wish 343 would give us some lore about the rainforest wars and the other war in the sol system it'd be very cool

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@errant cobalt yes supposedly

errant cobalt Apr 9, 2019, 11:12 AM

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I think they could come back soon in a book or game

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 11:12 AM

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The ones who are still alive are supposed to either be dust or are in a form of stasis

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 11:12 AM

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Still hoping for the day of finding the Halo CEA version of thick ambience, it is the definition of The Flood's theme song, if they had one, it would be that one, for sure

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Yes it would be cool

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I gotta go do something I'll be back in q few minutes

errant cobalt Apr 9, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Three some references of a new spices called the medlers that have coursed a flood out breake on a ring

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 11:14 AM

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i'm betting there will be Flood in Halo Infinite, the game is opening up to certainly being that way

errant cobalt Apr 9, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Yep

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 11:19 AM

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@errant cobalt yes on delta halo one of the flood research areas was breached by a unknown species whilst in the midst of containment protocols which mean that there was no way in and no way out of the facility because its teleporters had been put into lockdown to prevent the flood from escaping

errant cobalt Apr 9, 2019, 11:20 AM

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@quartz willow didn't they hack the system?

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Yes which means they weren't something from the milky way

errant cobalt Apr 9, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Yep like a precursor?

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 11:27 AM

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@errant cobalt I got some crappy internet right now I'll talk to you later dude

errant cobalt Apr 9, 2019, 11:27 AM

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OK bye 👋

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 11:28 AM

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See ya later my man

vague scroll Apr 9, 2019, 12:19 PM

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Meddlers are a term coined by CIA931 and mentioned by HiddenXperia regarding species rumored in some of Halo’s more obscure lore but it’s not an official term.

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It doesn’t have to be any one species but could be multiple. The Forerunners are known to have cataloged and repopulated 123 species including Humanity and Covenant after the initial Halo firing.

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And the Precursors are gone, they left the Milky Way at best, became the Flood at worst. The Primordial claimed to be the last Precursor but to trust his interpretation of reality is an unreliable task.

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It’s unlikely that the Precursors will make a greater appearance since they are objectively more science fantasy than science fiction that the Halo series is known for, its more likely we will see Forerunners make appearances in more literature and maybe the games, games are doubtful though given how complex Forerunners and Precursors can be. The Didact’s return would be an interesting twist.

obsidian thistle Apr 9, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Hey

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Meddlers was a term made by me 😬

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Used to describe all the meddling mystery aliens in the Halo universe

vague scroll Apr 9, 2019, 12:35 PM

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It’s been so long since I’ve watched the video, things bleed together. Sorry CIA, it’s been a while. You have permission to conk me over the head for that one.

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 12:40 PM

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@vague scroll Like what Xperia pointed out though when the facility on delta halo was broken into ti was to early after the reseeding event to be anything from the milky way so that either means it was flood from another galaxy or a species from another galaxy

vague scroll Apr 9, 2019, 12:40 PM

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It could have been a species that developed abnormally fast

obsidian thistle Apr 9, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Or ones who are immune to the array.

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Whatever the case

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Its still a interesting case these mystery meddling aliens.

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I am glad HiddenXperia took a lot of my info I gathered and put it into a video.

vague scroll Apr 9, 2019, 12:43 PM

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You’re the leader in the lore business man

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Yes but the array kills anything with a nervous system so that means it would have to be a species without a nervous system which would mean the forerunners had overlooked a species when they had been looking for one that would be immune to the flood which I highly doubt they'd overlook

vague scroll Apr 9, 2019, 12:43 PM

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We all turn to you sooner or later

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 12:44 PM

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I mean unless it was a bug or some crap

vague scroll Apr 9, 2019, 12:44 PM

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If it kills everything with an nervous system, Earth’s biosphere would have collapsed

obsidian thistle Apr 9, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Reseeding was careful

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Halo Legends Origins is not an accurate depiction.

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 12:46 PM

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I know especially since in part 2 they show humanity and the covenant fighting against the flood and not killing eachother which we know is pretty big BS

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I still find the story Defender-Of-The-Storm to be a good example of how far the forerunners were willing to got to protect another species from infection by the flood but the story leaves me with a question. In the story after Adeqaute Observer Tells Capital Enforcer about the bird things and Capital gives him his key and tells him to blow the station while be holds them off we can assume he was infected. So wouldn't that mean that he was infected and the flood would have learned about those bird creatures in the gas giant

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I'm just saying little bit if a plot hole there

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@spiral cape you mean Mona Lisa Or Soma the Painter

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They are both excellent stories that nail how creepy the flood can be at times

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 1:10 PM

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I'm not sure. It's perhaps too hasty a conclusion to assume he was infected and didn't find a way to be outright killed.

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Or that the Flood could access his complex knowledge before the station went.

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We don't know exactly what the timescale is for full nueral assimilation.

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Yes I know it is a hasty conclusion but from what we know wouldn't someone infected directly by a infection form unless it is very old the host no longer is alive at all except in the case of Pvt Jenkins so I'd be willing to bet they had gotten the information or were in the process of infecting him when the station went

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 1:13 PM

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"In the process of" might not be enough.

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Uea

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Yea

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 1:13 PM

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If The Flood really want to know something, typically they integrate you into a proto-gravemind.

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Which tells you how much complex information is extracted from a combat form, I think.

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Keyes was stuffed into the proto-gravemind mid-transformation into a combat form, was he not?

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And in that instance, the proto-gravemind was looking for food sources.

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So, extraction of complex information beyond muscle memory seems to require a more complete degree of integration.

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Combat forms don't even seem to be fully converted themselves. The new or converted FSC-matter just supports pre-existing matter, until such a time as the raw biomass can be processed. So that's a good thing to keep in mind.

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Yes you are very correct

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Hey what would you guys say is the creepiest mission in halo to me its tied between 343 guilty spark and Floodgate

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 1:27 PM

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I used to find the frantic nature of The Library really unpleasant as a kid

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When Spark disappears and the music gets all intense

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And Flood leap at you from literally every angle

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Not creepy so much as just a bit scary

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Yea they mission is somewhat creepy 343 guilty spark is intense because the entire mission your alone except the end that crazy marine and when you finally enter the room where keys disappeared and you look at that film its unnerving as you see those marines get overwhelmed by the flood especially as the entire mission you dont encounter a single elite

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And at the beginning those friendly blips that you can see up ahead but cant make out and just as your about to see who they are they disappear

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As a kid they mission freaked me out

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 1:30 PM

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You can't really beat 343 Guilty Spark. The first appearance of The Flood in Halo 2 is pretty underrated though.

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It's very sudden, but the buildup is good.

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What buildup there is, I mean.

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Yea I'd say the same thing it's only underrated because that whole mission you've been worrying about the protectors and sentinels and not the flood who in my opinion at that part on the gondola should not be there

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But the mission Gravemind is a masterpiece

viscid wren Apr 9, 2019, 1:44 PM

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the beginning of floodgate always made me uneasy when I was younger

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good atmosphere

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Yes it has a great atmosphere @viscid wren

viscid wren Apr 9, 2019, 1:56 PM

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and that deep ominous pulsing theme was menacing af

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Yea that mission did a great job of showing how dire the situation was

stoic hamlet Apr 9, 2019, 3:52 PM

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”It followed me home”

quartz willow Apr 9, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Yes that was a good checkpoint name for that mission it made it feel like the flood were at earth only to kill cheif

twilit mulch Apr 9, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Weird Space Zombies

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 6:04 PM

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What is your stand on the flood?

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They try to create one big community-like spwcies around the universe

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Almost self sufficient and like-minded

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It actually reminds me of that rick and morty episode when they meet a kind of 'virus' that controls all people on one planet to achieve peace

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Where*

carmine sleet Apr 9, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Considering that the Flood's singular goal is to wipe out sentient life, maybe not the best comparison on your part

humble yacht Apr 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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There's an inherent difference between the Flood's hivemind and Unity's hivemind

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Unity wanted to promote peace and tranquility

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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You think!

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?

humble yacht Apr 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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The Flood wants all life to be joined together in eternal agony and torment

versed helm Apr 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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From a certain standpoing I consider them to be almost equal

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Eternal agony and torment?