#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 168

lunar temple Mar 24, 2019, 2:14 PM

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I think it's a remnant of some cut part of Halo 2

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The 'High Charity' level was supposed to be a lot longer right

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Remember that she doesn't know what the gravemind is when she sees it for the first time

vivid dust Mar 24, 2019, 2:30 PM

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The cut level Forerunner Tank was going to serve as introduction for the Gravemind according to Halopedia

queen karma Mar 24, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Has anybody been in the hanger for Keyes? If you get across with sputnik and go in classic you can see the whole level loaded on a flat surface

vivid dust Mar 24, 2019, 2:31 PM

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so if you're right I'd assume this was where Cortana would've learned its name

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 2:45 PM

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How fast can Spartans move? Can they move as fast as warframes?

gaunt karma Mar 24, 2019, 3:04 PM

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it depends on the Spartan, but most can run at 55km/h or 34.2 miles/h

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as fast as a car, for the most part

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there isn't really a set number for how fast Warframes can move

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since you can edit that with in-game mods

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so much to the point that you can slide across an entire room in one button press as Nezha

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lore-wise, I don't believe there's been anything about how fast Warframes can actually move, but I don't know a lot about Warframe lore

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I'd like to see Spartan Vs have more thrusters on their suits

gaunt karma Mar 24, 2019, 3:07 PM

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I think now is fine

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otherwise the suits would be too bulky

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 3:08 PM

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My fastest frame is my Excal Umbra. Had a blast with him last night

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He does close to 60mph

gaunt karma Mar 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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where are you getting that number from?

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plus, games usually aren't the bestest place for lore questions

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 3:10 PM

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My stats. I don't remember the exact number but it was pretty high

gaunt karma Mar 24, 2019, 3:11 PM

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where does it say how fast it is?

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 3:13 PM

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I don't remember where exactly. I saw it a while ago while upgrading mods

strong sage Mar 24, 2019, 4:07 PM

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About spartan II’s speed since we all know that they can run at 55-60kmphr right? And since i heard that as they aged most of their stats are increased so does that mean that they can run more faster than the one i just stated earlier?

vague scroll Mar 24, 2019, 4:08 PM

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No.

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There simply has not been enough lore precedence to even say if 34 mph is the norm since it was only discuss in comparison to Kelly’s speed. The speed of other Spartans is an unknown so make assumptions is difficult and probably wrong. All we know is Kelly is the fastest Spartan.

last anchor Mar 24, 2019, 4:11 PM

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The 34 was her just after augmentation as well, without MJLONIR

gaunt karma Mar 24, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Kelly can run at 38.5 miles/h

mellow mesa Mar 24, 2019, 6:47 PM

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The big spire on high charity does it have a purpose? Because i never knew but my best guess is an antenna or something

oblique cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Uh

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If you're talking about inside HC, that's a Forerunner dreadnought. But outside, that's basically docking bays for the defense fleet.

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And a healthy mix of other things.

mellow mesa Mar 24, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Ah i see

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That big thing with spikes and stuff

oblique cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Ye, the weird butt tail thingy going down from it. Docking bays and stuff lol

broken vapor Mar 24, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Am I the only one who liked Roland more than Cortana?

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Like, Cortana isn't a bad character, but I like Roland because he's more personable.

fair hazel Mar 24, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Cortana favourite but I do like Roland.

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He’s very fun in spartan ops

carmine sleet Mar 24, 2019, 9:17 PM

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It's a shame we never got more Spartan Ops. Sure it wasn't perfect but it was one of my favourite things they did with Halo 4

queen karma Mar 24, 2019, 9:26 PM

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didnt they say that we were supposed to get more though?

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 9:28 PM

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yeah

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:<

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Guess not enough people played it.

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Spartan ops playing out was kinda at the height of everyone screeching

deep pewter Mar 24, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Spartan Ops was pretty annoying tbh

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 9:50 PM

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It was a blast with a bunch of buddies.

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Solo, not so much.

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the second half of spartan ops was really good

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even solo

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but the first half was horridly repetitive

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The Infinity missions were a lot of fun in particular

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those were especially cool, yeah

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those and the last couple that take place near the harvester

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I remember there also being a huge defence of the cauldron

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With mantises and like a dozen marines on the ground

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Nice large-scale action

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that one was there yeah, but it was still mostly recycled

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For me, it's all about scale in Halo's battles

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the forerunner spire one was one that was neat because they had different ToD and elements

gaunt karma Mar 24, 2019, 10:07 PM

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large scale battles are great

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Best fights in CE - all the battles alongside fireteam charlie + a few frantic end-game firefights

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Friendly AI are key

remote spruce Mar 24, 2019, 11:15 PM

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or letting flood and covies fight over everything while you make sure one side doesn't dominate

stoic hamlet Mar 24, 2019, 11:49 PM

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^^^^

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Those are always fun

versed helm Mar 24, 2019, 11:49 PM

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agreed

feral perch Mar 25, 2019, 2:11 AM

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The Flood tend to win those fights

remote spruce Mar 25, 2019, 2:13 AM

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rocket flood are actually more powerful than juggernauts

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this is now new canon and can't be disputed

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 2:42 AM

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I mean

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Wasn’t the flood eradicated in halo 2 or am I missing something

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Maybe if the rocket flood also carries a bunch of spare tubes around with it

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You're missing a lot, actually.

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Like, a ridiculously huuuge amount of lore.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Sorry I haven’t played any of the games lately

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Just like

gilded mason Mar 25, 2019, 2:43 AM

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@obsidian dust
It infected High Charity in Halo 2, with nothing happening to contain it by the end of the game.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Thank you

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 2:44 AM

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The funny thing about Halo rings is that they don't actually "wipe out" the Flood.

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They do two things - disrupt the advanced neural networks coordinating them, and prevent them from spreading.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 2:44 AM

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Well it’s because they technically aren’t sentient

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Halo rings only destroy sentient life, right

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 2:44 AM

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They scramble nervous systems.

gilded mason Mar 25, 2019, 2:44 AM

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They destroy anything with a nervous system.

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 2:45 AM

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So they'll kill a sufficiently advanced flood form.

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A keymind of any kind, basically.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Hmm

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 2:45 AM

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And without them, The Flood can't coordinate or really fight.

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It's back in the feral stage.

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And that's where, in the initial firing of the array, a bunch of sentinels swooped in with nano-solvent and dissolved not only the dead biomass but most of the Flood.

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But pockets are still probably alive.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 2:46 AM

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Probably.

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 2:46 AM

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So you can never really wipe it out. Only stall it.

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Until you find a way to totally defeat it.

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Which probably means getting at the gravemind, whatever it really is.

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But that's difficult, because the gravemind itself doesn't seem to be something that exists in a physical sense.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 2:48 AM

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Well maybe somehow ascending to a plain where it does exist might work, but there’s no such technology... yet

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I mean, if the halo saga taught me anything, there’s always new tech around the corner when it comes to this stuff.

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 2:49 AM

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The Forerunners didn't seem to be anywhere near it.

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But I imagine you're probably right.

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Wait hold the hell up

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The Domain - galaxy-spanning network of dubiously physical nature

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Created presumably by the precursors

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There's a theory for you

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The Gravemind either exists in or is, in some sense, the Domain.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Huh, that.. actually makes sense, now thinking about it.

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Plus, here's a funny thing.

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Chief's psychic visions.

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He gets them twice - Halo 3, Halo 5.

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In Halo 3, it's the Gravemind taunting him, using Cortana. How does he do it? We don't know.

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In Halo 5, Cortana directly sends a vision to him. Presumably, she does it using the Domain.

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Perhaps the Halo 3 visions were also facilitated by the Domain.

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Perhaps the esoteric properties of the Domain are what the Gravemind uses to exert control over the Flood.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 3:02 AM

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hmmm

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Keyminds? More like a replication of living Precursor Domain-accessing technology, constructed using the Flood Supercell.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 3:04 AM

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WOAH

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I never realized that!

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That makes way too much sense for some reason, why didn’t I think of that?

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 3:05 AM

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I'm spooked by how well it fits.

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We'll have to see how it all plays out.

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Halo infinite, you have many questions to answer

remote spruce Mar 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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inb4 it's just a warthog run at the end

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Better be

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What if it's a Warthog run on a ship

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But there's no gravity

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So you turn on magnetic wheels

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And gun it

sacred crypt Mar 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Ok, was about to say... CE?

remote spruce Mar 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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can we get like, a tank run

queen karma Mar 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Pelican/phantom run

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cut files from halo 3's halo has a voice line from cortana that says "look! There's jhonsons pelican!"

sacred crypt Mar 25, 2019, 3:32 AM

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@remote spruce I mean, isn't it canon that tank beats everything?

remote spruce Mar 25, 2019, 3:34 AM

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yes

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Except a single Spartan with a plasma pistol, a frag grenade and a dream.

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Which in Warzone just so happens to be every Spartan

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Though I'll bet that canonically speaking the plasma pistol does nothing like the EMP effect we see in game

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Probably just screws slightly with sensors and electronics by virtue of being plasma

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But I doubt it'd single-handedly be able to completely render a tank non-functional for several seconds or shoot down aircraft

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Hells no.

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It DOES overload shields like it does in game tho, the books confirm that. But that makes more sense as its literally just dumping a stupid amount of plasma into one shot. And plasma works on shields better than most ballistics

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 3:59 AM

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I thought a compelling explanation might be that the shield stops the plasma, but the interference is often enough to cause the generator itself to short out.

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Like I was talking about this with Spaghet on the Halopedia Discord.

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A compelling conceptualization is that the shield is more or less an unbreakable particle-lattice, and any "damage" to it is in fact strain on the generator to maintain hold of the particles.

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But the lattice can't necessary stop raw electromagnetic energy, so that tends to have an effect on armour systems.

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Its like hardlight, yes

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Or active camo, too.

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 4:02 AM

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But since its not being fed by a Forerunner generator it has its limits

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Just a particle manipulation field.

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Forerunner technology improperly employed by an immitative religious race, then re-copied by inovative human tech

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But still imperfect

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Human ingenuity intensifies

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Thats what I love about Halo. The UNSC has no sense of honor.
"Your stuff is better than ours? We're going to steal it"

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Only StarGate ever really reached that level of "Mine now!" and I love it

royal spear Mar 25, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Well when you are on the verge of losing which could bring about the extinction of your entire race I don't think not stealing tech to bolster your force is really an option XD

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Why did Reach man think he could take on the entire covenant?

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I mean he saved Reach but... why

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Reach man?

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:31 PM

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The main character of halo reach, forgot his actual name

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Noble 6?

carmine sleet Mar 25, 2019, 12:32 PM

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Noble Six didn't save Reach. The planet still fell

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:32 PM

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And why do you think that he thought that he could take on the entire covenant ?

fringe knoll Mar 25, 2019, 12:32 PM

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Reach man > halo man ?

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:32 PM

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No :0

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:32 PM

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Well for one he stayed on Reach for no apparent reason

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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It's Halo Chief, yes only shot 7 bullets in over 10 years

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Also Reach Man > Halo Man

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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he stayed on Reach because he had no way to get off it

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the Autumn left

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he stayed on the mass driver so the Autumn could escape

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Masterchief would have hijack a banshee, hijack a cruiser then leave the planet

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Masterchief > Noble 6

carmine sleet Mar 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Six stayed behind to give the Autumn a chance to escape. The many were saved over the few

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 12:34 PM

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well, yeah

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of course Master Chief would, he's the Chief

fringe knoll Mar 25, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Master Chief would've warthog grenade-ed jumped off the planet

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 12:34 PM

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he has luck

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Reach Man then basically tries to doom it, killing as many covenant as possible before dying

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Whai

fringe knoll Mar 25, 2019, 12:35 PM

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He was bored

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:35 PM

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Oh ok that makes sense

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:36 PM

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He knew that he would die, but he wanted to die like a real boi

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:36 PM

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ske7ch

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Killing as many as he could

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Proof that Reach Man > Halo Man

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:38 PM

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Well, Halo Man blew up a super carrier, blew up a 5 scarabs, killed one covenant leader, destroyed 2 halo rings

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:39 PM

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With help from flying company ballz

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.... 343 for people who can’t take a joke

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:39 PM

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No he did everything alone, like a tru boi

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:39 PM

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Then Company ballz was like “no actually I’m de bed gy I’m blow up halo”

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Then Halo Man was like “no u can’t do dat now u die”

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Company ballz was havin nun of dat and went bye bye until halo 2 where the second halo is

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Ginger bell then used its reddy glowy glimmery laser on de halo man

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:42 PM

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So then he was like “o I gess Halo Man was riht”

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So he became friends with Halo Man and killed a priest or somethin

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#Halo-abridged

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Wat was da nam of de super solider person man ?

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PM

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ELET MAN

dim imp Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Oof boi it makes sense now

obsidian dust Mar 25, 2019, 12:46 PM

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Then Elet Man dies and was like “Halo Man do the thing to save the aliens”

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Halo Man was like “It Halo tim”

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And then the music was like DUR DUR DUH DUUUUH

boreal bane Mar 25, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Go do this somewhere else please

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And by somewhere else I mean not this server

stoic hamlet Mar 25, 2019, 1:36 PM

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^^^^^

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Yeet him, by all means.

green acorn Mar 25, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Is there any Mark VII Mjonir in lore yet?

carmine sleet Mar 25, 2019, 3:46 PM

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The Mark VII only appeared in the Kilo 5 Trilogy but it was only a prototype and ultimately was scrapped in favour of making Gen 2 Mjolnir

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That said, there has been a recent mention of Mark VII in the Field Manual

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Prototype for GEN 3, as the UNSC swings back towards the "high protection, high cost" style of armor production

green acorn Mar 25, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Do yall think that John’s new armor in Infinite is just a reskin of his halo 4-5 armor, or could it potentially be another prototype of MK. VII? Or even an older model?

obsidian thistle Mar 25, 2019, 5:58 PM

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We dont know tbh. Atm its unknown.

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But my guess would be its a GEN3 set.

stoic hamlet Mar 25, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Could you imagine if they don’t give him GEN3? But like, Locke or something gets it.

Imagine the casual fandom backlash, lol

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It has to be GEN3 though, I think. It makes he most sense

carmine sleet Mar 25, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Honestly, I don't care what armour they give him, just so long as the game is enjoyable

green acorn Mar 25, 2019, 7:13 PM

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True, i didnt think about gen 3.

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For player customization i hope they bring back classic armor designs like EVA and Decimator (noble 6 armor)

swift igloo Mar 25, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Am I the only one who liked his 4&5 armor

green acorn Mar 25, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Probably not, but its not as liked as his older armor

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 7:21 PM

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For me, Chief is Chief, doesnt matter what he looks like

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 7:23 PM

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same

gloomy condor Mar 25, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Chiefs armor is chiefs armor, You cant say its only Mjolnir

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 7:24 PM

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it's only Mjolnir

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:D

gloomy condor Mar 25, 2019, 7:24 PM

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😢

carmine sleet Mar 25, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Most Spartans aren't sentimental over their armour anyway, it's equipment to them at the end of the day

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 7:25 PM

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I will agree on the helmet and the colour, but everything else could change just fine

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it would be weird seeing him without that helmet for a bit, but I'd get used to it

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 7:26 PM

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If the end for him that I hope he gets comes to pass (him replacing Palmer as Infinity's Spartan commander, or possibly being the left hand to Musa) we might get to see him in a normal suit

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And that would be the greatest thing ever

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 7:26 PM

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like, a standard business suit?

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Yeah, like Jun wears in Initiation

carmine sleet Mar 25, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Like, a great example of a Spartan who was sentimental over their armour was Kurt-051, he kept his Mark IV in a case in his office on Onyx but never used it because he felt he was more like the S-IIIs by the time of the Battle of Onyx. Shame really, having the Mark IV on could've saved Kurt's life

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Hes not super happy with his job but he cant deny it needs doing.
Doesnt stop him from trying to fight every chance he gets.
(Infinity gets boarded)
"I need a weapon."
"Cheif, we've got 600 S-IVs, I think we'll be fine."

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Also yeah. (Shakes fist at Kurt) curse your sentimentality

carmine sleet Mar 25, 2019, 7:28 PM

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But he did ultimately get to see some of his closest friends again so it's not all bad

green acorn Mar 25, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Can someone shed some light on the UNSC Drunascass? I saw the size comparison sheet a while back and still confused by it, because i thought the infinity was the biggest ship ever built by the UNSC?

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 7:33 PM

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It is. The Drunascass is non-canon

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At least Im fairly certain it is, Ive never heard of it

green acorn Mar 25, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Ah okay

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Ill check around some more

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Yep, its from a fanfiction

versed helm Mar 25, 2019, 7:37 PM

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speaking of IIIs, my unpopular opinion is I think IIIs are better than IIs

stoic hamlet Mar 25, 2019, 8:27 PM

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It’s bot that unpopular depending on which fan circle you’re in

brisk cape Mar 25, 2019, 8:52 PM

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IIIs were more ‘human’ than the IIs which tends to make them more popular with a lot of people.

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 9:49 PM

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They were a lot more popular among the old school Tumblr RP fandom I can tell you that

gaunt karma Mar 25, 2019, 11:03 PM

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I don't think I've actually seen anything on Tumblr for Halo

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I saw one Master Chief roleplay blog and that was it

last anchor Mar 25, 2019, 11:14 PM

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It was a lot bigger before Halo 4 came out. The arrival of the IVs killed a lot of drive.
And there were a few bad apples that messed it up for everyone.

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A lot of the RPers there were of the Bungie crowd, and the sudden apperance of 4 shattered many of their carefully constructed headcanons. Instead of rebuilding, they left

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TBH, RP on Tumblr as a whole has died down with the advent of Discord, and even then its slowly dying out. Just is

stoic hamlet Mar 25, 2019, 11:49 PM

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I know S-III’s are preferred by many (myself included) because you can actually make one without going into pure fandom territory.

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But I just like S-III’s period

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 1:09 AM

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hey uh are there anymore prophets besides for truth regret and mercy

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i know theres more of their species

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but are there more prophete

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sorry cant spell

gilded mason Mar 26, 2019, 1:11 AM

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Yes. Though those three were the High Prophets.

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 1:11 AM

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oh

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so there should be new ones now

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well within one remnant group

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not juls or atrioxes

gilded mason Mar 26, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Some might title themselves as such if they felt like it, yes.

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 1:13 AM

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also why do the covenant not speak english in halo 4 but in every other game but ce they do

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i dont remember if they did in reach

gilded mason Mar 26, 2019, 1:13 AM

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They did not in Reach.

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 1:14 AM

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thats kinda weird

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ngl

queen karma Mar 26, 2019, 1:15 AM

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they were the high prophets, or if you will the stoned prophets

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 1:16 AM

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lmao

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one thing i also dont understand is why do the elites never wear any breathing protection when fighting the flood

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i mean they can infect through air

queen karma Mar 26, 2019, 1:25 AM

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They know there gonna die so they don't care for it :P

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 1:37 AM

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well the arbiter should

stoic peak Mar 26, 2019, 1:51 AM

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So Owen-B096 was 9 when he started training to be a Spartan III, thought Spartan IIIs were many to be between 4 and 6

remote spruce Mar 26, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Remember, Carter was 11

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It really varies for some reason.

stoic peak Mar 26, 2019, 1:56 AM

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@remote spruce yeah but that is a exeption, that was meant to be a one time thing as i see it

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But even that annoys mr

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Seems strange to have 4 year olds training with 9 year olds

remote spruce Mar 26, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Yea it is odd

stoic peak Mar 26, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Okay i guess i can forgive them having a few 9 year olds in the buch, but Carter being 11 is just dumb

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 2:34 AM

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They really should just retcon that

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When did we learn Owen’s training age?

torpid blade Mar 26, 2019, 2:37 AM

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I mean

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 2:37 AM

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The only thing I can see is an inference from Halopedia, but it’s not confirmed

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It’s highly likely that, like what Veta originally thought with Saber, he looks older than he actually is.

torpid blade Mar 26, 2019, 2:38 AM

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I think it’s fine for a 11 year old to train with 9,6, and 4 year olds

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 2:38 AM

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He shouldn’t be able to survive augmentation

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If he’s that old

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He should be dead

torpid blade Mar 26, 2019, 2:38 AM

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He clearly did tho

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 2:38 AM

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But he shouldn’t

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Is what I’m saying

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If he can be augmented like that then there’s no reason a Spartan IV can’t be given the III’s augments, because apparently a near-adult can survive III augmentation

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Meaning an adult should be able to survive as well with no side effects

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But we know that’s not the case.

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Hence why the IV’s are given watered down augs, because you still need to be a child to survive full augmentation.

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The only way I can see it working is if he was in Cryo for a long time and so biologically he was 4-9 or whatever when he began training.

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There’s no reason for him to be that old anyways

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Noble’s ages are never brought up in game, only in IIRC one guide, not even an actual novel

stoic peak Mar 26, 2019, 3:01 AM

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@stoic hamlet in Halo Battle Born its stated he is about the same age as Evie who was almost 18, soni am guessing Owen is 18 and we also know he was Beta Company

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Where is it stated?

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I have the book but could you provide a page number?

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There’s no source on Halopedia

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Only an inference

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Sorry, I just wanna check.

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Be through and all that

stoic peak Mar 26, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Cant provide a PAGE number sorry, i would have go have a look. But its when suski sees him with out a helmet

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:03 AM

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That’s the inference on Halopedia

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His age isn’t directly stated

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She only assumes

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Like how Veta Lopis had with the Gammas that he’s older than he actually is

stoic peak Mar 26, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Its never mentined how old he is, but it makes sense to have him be roughly the samw age, due to it being a YA Novel

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:05 AM

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He could be younger, even by like, two years and it’d be fine

stoic peak Mar 26, 2019, 3:06 AM

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True. But then we also have Kat who was 9

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:06 AM

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His age is never stated, we shouldn’t have to assume

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See idk about when Beta started training tbh

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Ghosts of Onyx implies they began training maybe a few months after Alpha died

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They already had almost 400 candidates

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By Alpha’s death

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I can’t imagine they waited two more years

stoic peak Mar 26, 2019, 3:07 AM

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So you think they began training in 2537

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:07 AM

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When they got over 400 in a few months for Alpha

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Yeah

stoic peak Mar 26, 2019, 3:07 AM

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That maked Tom 4

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When its implied he was 6

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:08 AM

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To account for stuff like Lucy starting at 6 perhaps they added recruits later on?

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I don’t know how to reconcile it otherwise

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Because assuming they began training in 2539 just doesn’t make sense to me

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I can’t imagine they waited two years for ~50 more kids

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Maybe as more colonies fell they brought those kids along later, but I mean, I can’t imagine they would hold off on starting to train the majority (IIRC it’s like 90% of the full company) for another two years

remote spruce Mar 26, 2019, 3:12 AM

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the consequences of Meow-2s

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:13 AM

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It’s not even that

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Kat works

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Have her recruited

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Her colony fell before Alpha died (heck, it was what allowed Alpha to be sent on Prometheus) so she can be recruited

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Tom and Lucy both can be retconned to have been recruited at 4, or change their birthdates

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That’s all you gotta do

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And it makes sense again

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Or, if you really wanna meet in the middle, have training start like, Jan 2538

green acorn Mar 26, 2019, 4:32 AM

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I feel like SIVs are just glorified marines with better tech. While being said there are some notable SIVs, but still most of them seem insignificant. Thats just my take on it anyway..

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 5:19 AM

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the elites are the dinosaurs from a few million years ago right?

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 5:20 AM

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......no?

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They’re a separate species

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Always have been

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Originally they were more Dino inspired I think.

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But that’s the extent of it

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 5:53 AM

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no no i think you're right

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they're definitely dinos

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like the T-Rex

last anchor Mar 26, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Yes, because theres totally genetic connections to a species that evolved on a planet literally hundreds of light years from earth

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 6:04 AM

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yes

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it all makes sense

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the dinosaurs didn't just appear out of nowhere

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the meteorite that killed the dinosaurs millions of years ago wasn't a meteor

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it was an escape pod from a covenant elite

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the theory could be is that the covenant re-produced with the dinosaurs or the covenant was a morph

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thinkingchief

last anchor Mar 26, 2019, 6:11 AM

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So the Sangheili launched a 3.5 kilometer wide rock...at Earth.

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From halfway across the orion arm.

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Mate, this is the official Halo discord. Take your crappy meme ideas elsewhere

hidden blade Mar 26, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Ok, my question was deleted? Let me ask it again and hopefully some invisible deity doesn’t remove it. I heard that Miranda Keyes is the daughter of Jacob Keyes and Catherine Halsey. Is that true?

gilded mason Mar 26, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Yes she is. And it was removed because you typed a no-no word.

last anchor Mar 26, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Pretty much. Its been confirmed she was their daughter in Glasslands, but it was heavily hinted at far before that

green acorn Mar 26, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Agree or disagree- SIVs are mostly glorified marines with better tech

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(There are some notable SIVs though but not that many)

last anchor Mar 26, 2019, 6:50 AM

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Nothing to discuss; its just what they are.

hidden blade Mar 26, 2019, 8:37 AM

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What was Halsey’s reaction to Miranda Keyes’ death?

upper star Mar 26, 2019, 9:49 AM

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There isn't anything in game to speak of aside from how Halsey seems to be in constant retrospective thinking in that scene in halo 4. But that could be thinking too deeply into it

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That aside I think it was in the novel glasslands where we get her wrestling with not being more of a mother to Miranda as she was to the Spartans and her wondering if investing all of her efforts into her work was the best thing

hidden blade Mar 26, 2019, 10:01 AM

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Hm, neat

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I like Halo a lot because it’s like sci-fi Lord of The Rings in terms of just how MUCH story there is.

green acorn Mar 26, 2019, 1:00 PM

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What are the Xeno Orders and when were they used?

unique rune Mar 26, 2019, 1:47 PM

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I’d disagree with the sentiment that S-IVs are just glorified Marines... not to mention that I’m pretty sure most S-IIs and -IIIs weren’t really fleshed out or just appeared, had [special talent] mentioned, and then caught a case of big dead.

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 1:57 PM

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S-IVs are more comparable to S-IIs than S-IIIs

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:00 PM

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In what way? @versed helm

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They’re much closer to ORION than any prior Spartan generation, IMO

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 3:01 PM

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S-IIIs are basically upgraded ODSTs

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:01 PM

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No they aren’t

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That’s not at all what they are

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 3:02 PM

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IVs are about as fast as IIs

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:02 PM

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sigh

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 3:02 PM

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That's how I see it

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:03 PM

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I'm lost with the spartan number thinkingchief
II is for chief right ? III noble team and IV halo 4/5, am I right ?

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Well you are incorrect my friend.

And yeah, roughly @dim imp

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Lemme get my essay made just for this purpose

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:04 PM

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How are III made ? Same treatment than II ?

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Chemical augmentations

gaunt karma Mar 26, 2019, 3:04 PM

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the circumstances are the same for II/III

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both were kids when they started

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:04 PM

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But they become as good as the II’s

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Then what are the changes ?

gaunt karma Mar 26, 2019, 3:04 PM

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IIIs have more emotions, I believe

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Nothing augmentation wise aside from how they’re augmented.

And III’s don’t need to be perfect to be augmented like the II’s.

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:05 PM

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The IIIs had worse armour but had more numbers and safer augmentations than the IIs

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:05 PM

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better augmentation

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Plus the IIIs were effectively meant for suicide missions against the Covenant

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:05 PM

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In the sense that you didn’t need super specific genetics

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Then II are stronger but more risk factors right ?

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:06 PM

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You still needed to be screened but it wasn’t like the II’s

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No they’re equal

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Who are some active S-IIIs that chose not to become S-IVs?

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:06 PM

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With Gamma Company S-III’s being stronger and more durable than any II/III/IV in specific instances

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No III becomes a IV

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but all of Gamma

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For one

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Tom, Lucy, Hazel, Owen

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Jun

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Presumably any others still alive we don’t know about

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Kevin

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:08 PM

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The S-IIIs that were able to survive the war, excluding a few, were all put under the Spartan Branch after the war ended @versed helm

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Then III are the same than II, just less risky to make
Makes sense
however what about IV ? They seem to be normal guys with spartan armour

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:09 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/9hu616/spartan_iiis_unsung_heroes_warning_long_essay/

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:09 PM

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The S-IVs are what would be considered the "mass produced" model since there are so many but they are weaker out of armour than an S-II who is out of armour

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:10 PM

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They’re weaker than III’s as well. (Because you know, equal)

IIRC it was described that a IV was a peak athlete compared to a II/III being a “supernatural monster” out of armour

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:11 PM

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I see
However chief was not able to destroy locke when they fought
Yeah he won but after 30 seconds

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 3:11 PM

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I'd like to see ONI create their own secret Spartan program

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:11 PM

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=> bad cutscene

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:12 PM

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They did sniper, they were called the Spartan II and Spartan III programs

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ONI were the ones that made the programs

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 3:12 PM

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I thought it was the higher ups within the UNSC

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Gamma still fall under ONI

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:13 PM

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They authorised the Spartan Programs but ONI were the ones that created the Spartan Programs

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:13 PM

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What is Gamma ?

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:13 PM

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The third class of S-IIIs

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Gamma Company S-3’s

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The third and final group trained

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(But a fourth was planned)

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Alpha Beta Gamma I guess

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Correct

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:15 PM

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They often use Charlie instead of gamma, that's funny

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Using the Greek Alphabet

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Instead of the phonetic

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Speaking of greek letters
Why is 04 halo alpha, 05 halo delta and 03... uh... I actually forgot, was it zeta ?

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:15 PM

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If they were using the phonetic it’s be Alpha Bravo Charile

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(But that’s how Beta Company teams were named)

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It was Zeta yeah

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And I don’t know myself

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:17 PM

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This is weird, would make sense if 05 was Beta if it was related to discovery date
No, random letters ><

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:17 PM

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shrug idk man

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:17 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

boreal bane Mar 26, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Check out the Neoteric array on Halopedia, give you the designations:
https://www.halopedia.org/Halo_Array#Neoteric_Array

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:18 PM

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thanks

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Ah it was gamma in H4, not zeta

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Beta, Epsilon, Gamma, Alpha, Delta, Kappa, Zeta
Not really how greek alphabet works but nevermind

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:21 PM

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For a second I thought you were joking when you said "Kappa" for 06

dim imp Mar 26, 2019, 3:21 PM

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No, Kappa is an actual greek letter :3

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Well, I guess I learnt something new today

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 3:33 PM

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@stoic hamlet IVs are notably superhuman

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As with the IIs, it’s unsafe for them to even train against regulars

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Oh I know

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I was just using the quote given comparing the different gens out of armour

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They’re still obviously superhuman, just nowhere on the level of their predecessors

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out of armour

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 3:35 PM

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You know, I’m curious

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Because

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It’s not really established that IVs are attributed a baseline

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By their very nature, their “stats” are difficult to predict

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Aye but we can and have generalizations

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 3:36 PM

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I wouldn’t say it’s improbable that a IV could achieve similar or even superior physicality to a II under ideal circumstances

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Arguably the same could be said for the III’s to some extent as well but we generalize with them

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I disagree on that if we’re specifically talking about out of armour stuff

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:37 PM

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There's likely an average across the whole of the IVs but then there's some that either stand above the rest or are slightly weaker than the rest

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:37 PM

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In armour absolutely

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But out of armour there has been said to be a notable gap

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 3:37 PM

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IVs especially are subject to variability because their procedures are personalized to the individual

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Yes but there most definitely is a baseline

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 3:38 PM

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And physical strength is just one facet of soldiering

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Stronger isn’t always better

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Of course

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 3:39 PM

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When you really think about it, the majority of Spartans are fairly lean

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Exceptions being what, a handful of IIs?

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I don’t think it’s inconceivable that an unusually heavily built man would result in a physically more powerful Spartan than the comparatively thin Spartans

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Hafthor Bjornsson with Spartan augs for example

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Maybe

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IIRC most are so lean because of when they were augmented

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 3:43 PM

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I wouldn't want to meet him in a back alley, let alone an augmented version of him

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Im pretty sure they’re just naturally shaped that way

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Body builder physiques are overrated anyway

last anchor Mar 26, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Agreed

stoic hamlet Mar 26, 2019, 4:31 PM

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also agree

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Smash cut to Rob Liefield Captain America

rose matrix Mar 26, 2019, 4:49 PM

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most of the spartans are lean, because militaries train for stamina over muscle mass

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 4:49 PM

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well

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"lean"

rose matrix Mar 26, 2019, 4:49 PM

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lean being relative

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 4:50 PM

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they're about as lean as anyone that physically fit can be

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 4:50 PM

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https://www.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/rob-liefeld3.jpg

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Are you telling me this isn’t how soldiers should look

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 4:50 PM

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why in gods name would you format it that way

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Because urls get taken down automatically

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 4:51 PM

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https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/144952/4379933-grupo-space_marine.jpg

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this is what peak military perfection looks like

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Huh I guess I was mistaken

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 4:52 PM

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there's a link cooldown timer

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it's like

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3-5 minutes

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 4:52 PM

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But anyway

strong sage Mar 26, 2019, 4:52 PM

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xD

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Don’t like the barrel chest/small head look

strong sage Mar 26, 2019, 4:52 PM

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So if i enlist in the military soon i can look like that? 👀

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Only in the 90s, sorry

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 4:54 PM

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*80s

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everyone knows

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the 80s were a better time

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after all, Reach was recolonized in the 80s

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;)

strong sage Mar 26, 2019, 4:58 PM

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xD

hidden blade Mar 26, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Did the elites ever show remorse for their actions in the Human-Covenant war?

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Like in a book or comic was there an elite that was like "Dang that was real messed up the way we massacred entire planets of babies and women"

carmine sleet Mar 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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The Elite Shipmaster in The Return showed remorse for his actions, even returning to one of the planets he glassed

green acorn Mar 26, 2019, 6:20 PM

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I think there was a few times thel vadame was as well, not sure though

gilded mason Mar 26, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I believe Usze talked about it as well.

versed helm Mar 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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I don't think that many of the elites show actual guilt or remorse, but they do it in their own way

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Like they respect humanities fighting abilities and former enemies

modest marsh Mar 26, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I think the biggest thing for the elites is that they regret what they did because of how meaningless it was

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Killing is fundamental to their culture

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But it has function

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Aimless bloodshed is just bad

green acorn Mar 27, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Yes, since elite warfare holds the idea of honoring your allies and your adversaries, i believe that most elites following that mindset feel some remorse or have at least come to peace with the fact that killed humans, but in honorable combat, either in space or on land.

strong sage Mar 27, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Does Unsc still retain the D77 and D78 pelican models? Or they retired em and use the D79 model instead? Coz if they do thats a shame coz i love the predecessors design ;-;

remote spruce Mar 27, 2019, 2:33 AM

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yea, probably getting phased out slowly, but they still have them

green acorn Mar 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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The pelican crashed in the Infinite trailer had a more D77 like design, because the cockpit had two parallel seats instead of one seat on top of the other.

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 3:48 AM

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D77s have multiple seat configurations.

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I think the biggest giveaway is the design of the canopy itself.

last anchor Mar 27, 2019, 5:09 AM

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They're modular. Same as all other UNSC equipment

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Naturally.

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Warframes vs Spartans, who wins?

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The frames would be Nidus, Valkyr, Chroma, Inaros, Rhino, and Nova

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honestly

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i'd have to go frames

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also....>>>>>>picks the worst options

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except chroma

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he's aight

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Nidus and Valkyr are immortal lol

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eh

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but not really well

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chroma's more immortal

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I also picked Rhino cause he has a damage buff

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not picking banshee for damage buff

only frame that can hit damage cap

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heresy

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Inaros is also immortal

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ive played too much warframe to care about 'immortal'

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my own skill makes up for the lack of tanking ability

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but yeah, just based on lore

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Warframes are basically Jiralhanae on steroids in terms of strength

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actually, more akin to hunters in terms of strength

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They would use weapons such as the Tigris Prime (100% status), Nikana Prime, War, Dread

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you....havent played much warframe have you

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I've been playing for almost 3 years lol

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that means nothing to me

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MR and years are irrelevant, they just show how much stuff you've touched

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I'm crafting wukong

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hours and XP/kills

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i think on my main account alone on PC, i have 8,600 hours give or take

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I have just short of 500 hours

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ah. ye

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wee babu

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Started playing in 2016

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second scream

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:^ )

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me irl

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the real questions we need to ask

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infested vs flood

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since the infested are based on the flood

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a good compare-contrast session

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Probably flood since there's lots more of them but infested can also show up out of random

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but could the flood actually do anything to infested?

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since they share same core elements, on a different structure entirely

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mutagen spores are techno-organic

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flood spores are entirely organic

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They could merge and become a super parasite or just a more powerful parasite

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well, one's a parasite, the other's an infection

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both are recombinant species

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Grineer vs Covenant

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obvious

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they're just send an arbiter who'd single handedly eradicate the entire army in like, an hour

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with an empty energy sword no less

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I just love how they make clones so fast

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I feel like the grineer have the power to expand to other systems and set up more cloning facilities and shipyards

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Imagine if the Galactic Empire invaded Reach with the same fleet that invaded Endor

rare fox Mar 27, 2019, 10:57 AM

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They'd get hammered by macs

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It would be very bad for them

upper star Mar 27, 2019, 11:00 AM

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The Empire would lose in my opinion. The empire fleet at Endor was a sign of arrogance not sound doctrine, compared to the UNSC, who at that stage in the war were quite adept at using spaceborne guerilla tactics to disable it destroy key ships

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Combine that with the UNSC navy tactic of always attempting to over match with firepower, the ODPs, smart AI and what I think is the overall higher proficiency of UNSC personnel to that of the Empire and I would say they would lose

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Either similar to Endor where it's a sweeping victory, minus the pluckness of being a rebellion. Or a close win for the empire in orbit, though it would be a heavy fight on the surface.

rare fox Mar 27, 2019, 11:08 AM

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The real question is why would the unsc and galactic empire fight

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Both are mainly human organizations where one oppresses aliens while the other is fighting them for survival.

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Seems like they'd mutually benefit from aiding one another

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 11:18 AM

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The stormtroopers would accidentally team kill more than me

heavy linden Mar 27, 2019, 11:38 AM

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Star Wars also doesn't really have good gunnery AI

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The droids can't hit much farther than an organic could

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VS the UNSC smart AI which can hit far better than a human

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The problem the UNSC would have in space is the shields the star destroyers have

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They've pretty good against kinetic weapons

rare fox Mar 27, 2019, 11:40 AM

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A couple Mac rounds would still be a big problem for most ships

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Except for something big enough the Mac round would get stuck in the ship

heavy linden Mar 27, 2019, 11:41 AM

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I mean they shrug off asteroids like they're nothing

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Now a MAC round is a lot faster

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But still

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Three's a reason they don't use kinetics in Star Wars

rare fox Mar 27, 2019, 11:41 AM

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It's because they use lasers

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Kinetics are very strong against em

heavy linden Mar 27, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Eh

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Not really

rare fox Mar 27, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Not much a shield does against a super dense super fast depleted fuel rod

heavy linden Mar 27, 2019, 11:43 AM

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I mean there's a few instances of Vader using his ship to intercept entire star destroyers coming out of hyperspace

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By shield tanking it

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If they can stop an entire star destroyer decelerating from light speed

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They can probably stop a mac round

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Now granted that's on his super star destroyer

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But still

modest marsh Mar 27, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Rogue One disagrees

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Replace scarabs with AT-ATs and AT-STs

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There would be a battle similar to Hoth in the desert

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Orcs vs UNSC aka Alliance vs the Horde

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The average orc stands at around 8ft

carmine sleet Mar 27, 2019, 1:48 PM

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You realise that an armed space military with tanks and fighters has a very distinct advantage over swords and magic, right?

dim imp Mar 27, 2019, 1:51 PM

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And NOVA bombs

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 1:54 PM

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one thing i dont get why does red team have energy shields if they wear Mk4

carmine sleet Mar 27, 2019, 1:56 PM

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It used to just be an in gameplay mechanic with no baring on the lore but it was retconned so that Red Team were testing early prototypes of the energy shield tech

peak estuary Mar 27, 2019, 1:59 PM

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i've been reading silent storm and I noticed chief has a different version of the mark IV helmet on the cover, yet it's never mentioned once in the book

carmine sleet Mar 27, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Cover art isn't necessarily representative of stuff in canon

obsidian thistle Mar 27, 2019, 2:38 PM

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That said the Mjolnir is a Cobalt variant

stoic hamlet Mar 27, 2019, 2:52 PM

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IMO there was no reason to give them different variants because it was never mentioned I just mentally pictured regular Mark IV like I always did.

shrug

peak estuary Mar 27, 2019, 3:33 PM

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I still read chiefs voice in my head with how he sounds in the games even though ||he's only 15 in silent storm||

sand marten Mar 27, 2019, 3:40 PM

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shhh

carmine sleet Mar 27, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I don't see why you needed to hide Chief's age, it's hardly a spoiler

last anchor Mar 27, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Missed more Star Wars vs Halo stuff agian?

carmine sleet Mar 27, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Honestly, the Star Wars vs Halo stuff gets boring very quickly

gilded mason Mar 27, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Agreed.

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And all the other Halo vs. stuff

last anchor Mar 27, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Halo's too balanced and properly portioned.

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Its almost like it was designed from the ground up to be a fairly realistic (but not too realistic) military sci-fi series.
The Aliens influences most certainly helped

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Someone was like "well what about Warhammer 40k?"
40k has angry screaming bald men in suits of power armor charging head long into gunfire to cut enemies to ribbons with freaking swords, when there are such things as GUNS.

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Reality has no place in it and therefor you cant compare it to Halo

south mist Mar 27, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Did we ever get an explanation why Guilty Spark didn't just teleport Master Chief to the top of the Library? It's been over a decade since I read the Flood so if it's explained in that I forgot

gilded mason Mar 27, 2019, 7:21 PM

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He thought it'd be a good laugh.

safe siren Mar 27, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Seriously tho, maybe it wasn't linked to the teleportation grid? It make sense if the Flood somehow manage to take control of the system

fair hazel Mar 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Versus stuff is fun.

vivid dust Mar 27, 2019, 9:40 PM

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TIL Jacob Keyes was younger than Johnson

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 9:41 PM

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mhm

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significantly so

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Cryostatic aging deceleration is amazing, isnt it?

vivid dust Mar 27, 2019, 9:43 PM

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It really is

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Lord Hood is also younger lmao what the hell

rose matrix Mar 27, 2019, 10:02 PM

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keyes was a working captain, spent a lot of time on ice

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 10:25 PM

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backwards

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he actually preferred not going under

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johnson spent more time on ice than keys did

strange charm Mar 27, 2019, 10:33 PM

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so is the book halo: battle born canon?

gilded mason Mar 27, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Why would it not be?

strange charm Mar 27, 2019, 10:36 PM

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idk

last anchor Mar 27, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Theres no non-canon Halo books that I know of

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 10:48 PM

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there's a couple of non-canon comics

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that's about it iirc

strange charm Mar 27, 2019, 11:02 PM

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i knew about the noncanonical comics so i was checking to see if battle born was canon

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 11:05 PM

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nah, battle born is full canon

stoic hamlet Mar 27, 2019, 11:49 PM

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The only non canon story I know of is that one Legends short

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Odd Obe Out

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 11:51 PM

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that's unrelated to the printed media we're talking about

gilded mason Mar 27, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Which comics were non canon?

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 11:57 PM

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fistful of arrows is one

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as it was fan-made

gilded mason Mar 27, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Yeah, but it being made by fan, as you said, would make that obvious.

versed helm Mar 27, 2019, 11:59 PM

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fan-made, but it did get published by Bungie.org (not to be confused with Bungie.net, for those who joined us after that era)

shadow grail Mar 28, 2019, 12:56 AM

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So with MCC coming to PC, it would be possible that someone could try and recreate the Mona Lisa as a horror level

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:17 AM

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whats the mona lisa

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like the painting

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?

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:18 AM

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The short story/motion comic

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:18 AM

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thats the one about the marines on the flood infested ship right?

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Yes.

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Oh wow. People can't even say that word?

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:19 AM

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heck

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frick

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D_amn

queen karma Mar 28, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Yeah they can't

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kinda stupid tbh

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:20 AM

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whoa there

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Seems like the most mild swear word there is.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:21 AM

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one thing i dont get is how did the covenant not find a single ring during the 3k years before they met humanity

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Because space is unimaginably huge

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:22 AM

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but they had the things that helped them find forunner artifacts

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Yeah, but none of the ones they successfully captured had the location of the rings until they found the one on Meridian.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:23 AM

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oh

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also why did the covenant kill humanity on sight

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i mean we are the reclaimers

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:26 AM

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The three High Prophets found out that humans were Reclaimers. If that truth came out to the rest of the Covenant, they'd realize that the Great Journey isn't guaranteed salvation. Not to mention Truth probably doesn't want anything to shake up the religion and make his time in power more of a hassle.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:27 AM

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yeah i guess

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but there is a splinter group that allowed humans to join

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:28 AM

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You mean the Keepers of the One Freedom?

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:28 AM

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i think

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i saw a video about it

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:28 AM

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They were formed after the main Covenant was defeated

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:28 AM

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oh

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also is the mind from halo ce the same one from 2 and 3

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also can graveminds move

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:29 AM

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What mind from CE?

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:30 AM

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the one keyes was being consumed by

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he was the start of one

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Oh. Just a proto, at the time

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:30 AM

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dude ur a lore god

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Though once it was fully fledged, it would have been the same one from 2 and 3, yes.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:30 AM

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u a warlock main?

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:31 AM

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No, I like playing as a wizard.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:33 AM

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also where did all the sanshyums go

queen karma Mar 28, 2019, 1:33 AM

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2 and 3 was a different one since you destroyed 04

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:33 AM

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true but think 343 survived

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:34 AM

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also where did all the sanshyums go
Who knows.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:34 AM

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and the ring wasnt fully destroyed

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343 did indeed survive

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only partially

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i liked 343

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too bad i had to kill him

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shame

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you didnt kill him

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you only subdued him

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:35 AM

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He is deceptively durable.

maiden island Mar 28, 2019, 1:35 AM

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laughing hum “I am a Genius”

gaunt karma Mar 28, 2019, 1:36 AM

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a Guinness

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:37 AM

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i wish he died

gaunt karma Mar 28, 2019, 1:37 AM

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343 Guilty Spark confirmed alcoholic

maiden island Mar 28, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Autocorrect didn’t like my attempt at spelling it 🤷🏼‍♂️ I knew it was wrong so I to search.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:37 AM

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the 05 monitor didnt do crap

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the flood infested in less than 10k years after the activation

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i mean good god man

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also i wish they made a guilty spark shell for destiny

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also is the forrunner planet from halo 5 a sheild world

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Nope

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:46 AM

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oh

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it's not a shield world

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but it is artificially created by the builders

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the builders are just forruners right

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Yes

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:49 AM

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well

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ye

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a specific caste

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they're basically the equivalent of 'lords' in a feudal system

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also why is lord hood a lord

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hes a admiral

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Lord Admiral

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since he commands each fleet in the UNSC

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he's quite literally the head of the serpent that is the UNSC

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:52 AM

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He is a British noble

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:52 AM

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but he doesnt sound british

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Guess he didn’t live in Britain often

uneven pumice Mar 28, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Can someone explain to me what happened in between halo 2 and 3? I quite honestly don’t understand

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Thel and the rest went to Earth. Truth and John stayed in space for a while before John hitched a ride on some metal down to Earth

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 1:54 AM

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chief massacred the dreadnought while johnson and miranda sped off to earth with the feet

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he was really close to killing truth

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he was captured on the dreadnought as well

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dont forget that

uneven pumice Mar 28, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Okay then how do the brutes get to earth when they are there? And what was the time period between halo 2 and 3

radiant sphinx Mar 28, 2019, 1:59 AM

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How were the Sanshyum regarded after the war. I fear them more for their hostility than the Sangheili.

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Brutes came to Earth in Covenant fleets

radiant sphinx Mar 28, 2019, 1:59 AM

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The Sanshyum were essentially responsible for the whole war

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 2:01 AM

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I don’t believe the general sentiment for them was stated anyway, might be wrong though. But Rtas did go ona journey to find the remaining San’Shyuum to see what’s what regarding them individually

radiant sphinx Mar 28, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Also, not a fan of the existence of the San’Shyuum prelates. We don’t see or hear about them often, but it’s just a corny attempt at creating a Covenant soldier to properly rival Spartans imo

shadow grail Mar 28, 2019, 2:25 AM

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@versed helm if chief killed Truth, wouldn't the flood infected earth?

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 2:41 AM

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chief didnt

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he almost did

strange charm Mar 28, 2019, 2:53 AM

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is there ANY explanation for the halo 4 flood combat form

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 2:53 AM

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No.

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I don't think.

strange charm Mar 28, 2019, 2:53 AM

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we need an answer

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they look like the hellknights from doom, but lost 100 pounds

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 2:54 AM

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it's just a training sim

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@strange charm

strange charm Mar 28, 2019, 2:54 AM

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i know

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but why didnt they put what flood really looks like?

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 2:55 AM

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because they're infected spartans

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not infected marines, brutes, or elites

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 2:55 AM

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I don't think infected Spartans would look so radically different.

strange charm Mar 28, 2019, 2:56 AM

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but we see infected spartans in H2A and it looks like normal flood

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 2:56 AM

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early stages vs late stages

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idk

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honestly, the halo 4 forms look like they're out of mjolnir

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and only in a techsuit

strange charm Mar 28, 2019, 2:57 AM

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unless the spartan Vs were injected with something different, not extreme like the IIs, but just like small enhancements

fair hazel Mar 28, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Builders aren’t the equivalent of lords

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They specialize in building but do hole considerable political power

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 2:57 AM

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i dont mean on a 1:1: ratio

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but their intellect and status is considered to be the highest of the forerunner forms, no?

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ye, no Builders were the highest Rate in forerunner society

fair hazel Mar 28, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Status was high

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 3:52 AM

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even just going off halopedia and other sources: The Builders, referred to in some formal contexts as the Builder Corps,[2] were the highest rate of the Forerunners, considered to be the most powerful in terms of intelligence, wealth, and political power.

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with the master builder being the highest rank a builder form could achieve

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 9:33 AM

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Jul M'dama vs Atriox, who wins?

calm pier Mar 28, 2019, 9:33 AM

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batman

vivid dust Mar 28, 2019, 9:44 AM

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Atriox definetly

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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atriox jul never really show he's skill to anyone

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I wonder if the UNSC could survive the war of The Beast. It was a war in warhammer 40k that nearly brought the Imperium of Man to it's knees.

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the diffrence is that unsc has better tech and warhammer 40k has stronger super soldiers

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so it's a quite even match if i would say so

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and i think unsc would survive

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UNSC would probably be in much worse shape than they were during H3 since there's twice as many orks as there are covies

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They would have to use guerilla warfare in order to keep the orks from advancing

strong sage Mar 28, 2019, 10:42 AM

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Ya sure like to vs huh fam xD

worldly ember Mar 28, 2019, 11:07 AM

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i just had a idea

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with mod support comming in the future, imagine a custom campain where you play chief inbetween halo 2 and 3

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and invade the ship

limpid kernel Mar 28, 2019, 11:55 AM

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can marines have a an ai in their helmet

safe siren Mar 28, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Nop, an AI requires a lot of power for working, they can be in contact with one tho

lone igloo Mar 28, 2019, 12:23 PM

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I'm a PS4 user and I would love to play HALO again (last Time i played was 6 years ago) Should I purchase an Xbox and if so, which model will be best?

visual pasture Mar 28, 2019, 12:23 PM

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uhh

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probably xbox one so you can get mcc

lone igloo Mar 28, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Standard or one x?

visual pasture Mar 28, 2019, 12:25 PM

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idk

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i got the s

hasty geyser Mar 28, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Luca do you own a pc

visual pasture Mar 28, 2019, 12:25 PM

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its smaller and has 4k video streaming

lone igloo Mar 28, 2019, 12:27 PM

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I have a macbook aire

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air

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that belongs to my school

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so no

visual pasture Mar 28, 2019, 12:28 PM

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so

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i guess get the xbox one s

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if you like to watch media on your console

lone igloo Mar 28, 2019, 12:29 PM

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I will see

safe siren Mar 28, 2019, 12:29 PM

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What is your budget?

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We should go to #general-chat tho

fair hazel Mar 28, 2019, 12:51 PM

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@visual pasture please change your name. We have a non impersonation policy and yours counts

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 2:13 PM

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J.K Rowling?

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I love how there's someone here named J.K. Rowling lol

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 3:12 PM

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why does Locke say to Randall, “see you in Valhalla”? what’s Valhalla to the spartans?

feral perch Mar 28, 2019, 3:13 PM

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There was some context earlier in the story.

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Someone says that some group of people still believe in Valhalla.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 3:14 PM

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is valhalla like their heaven or something?

last anchor Mar 28, 2019, 3:20 PM

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The afterlife of warriors. IMO if anyone could get in it would be the Spartans

jaunty oak Mar 28, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Valhalla was the Viking heaven where they would eat at one massive table before fighting each other

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 3:28 PM

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And prepare for ragnarok

jaunty oak Mar 28, 2019, 3:31 PM

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But only the best warriors we're brought to Valhalla

remote spruce Mar 28, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Then how come teammate #7 crashed their mongoose while trying to steal the flag?

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 4:35 PM

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how old can sangheili get to?

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Never been said, though it's speculated that the average lifespan is around 200-ish years or so.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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^

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Hey so question, somebody said chief was the only surviving MK3 Spartan what even are MK spartans?

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I know there's Spartans I-IV but MK?

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I have never heard of an MK3 Spartan.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Yeah neither have I

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This kid in my class was trying to explain to me that 117 was the last MK3 and all of blue team died

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Then said Locke was like a MK5

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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He is definitely confused.

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Or just messing with you.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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No he was being serious

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He had some facts right but not some others

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He got Spartans Is confused with armor I think

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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even the armour is wrong. 😛

vague scroll Mar 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Tell the kid to check Halopedia @versed helm

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Will do

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why doesnt master chief have gen 2 armor in halo 5

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i mean its superior to gen 1 mk6

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 5:59 PM

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why doesnt master chief have gen 2 armor in halo 5
He literally does.

carmine sleet Mar 28, 2019, 6:00 PM

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It just looks like his Mark VI from Halo 4 outside of some minor changes such as the removal of the damage on his chest

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@gilded mason he still has gen one mjonir just with minor upgrades the spartan IVs have a whole new type

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 6:22 PM

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He has Gen2 armor in Halo 5

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https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/canon-fodder-conventional-warfare

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Oh. I can't post twitter links for some reason.

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It was Grim saying "GEN2; in Escalation." in response to:
I have a quick question does that mean Chief got his armor upgraded to Gen2? Or is he still in gen1?

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 6:33 PM

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is yap yap cannon

supple salmon Mar 28, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Unfortunately not, however that can/ may change. We can hope.

green acorn Mar 28, 2019, 6:59 PM

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He better be canon soon

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Is Spartan 007 CJ Patterson canon?

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 7:01 PM

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why doesn't he have the original helmet in H2, 3, etc.

green acorn Mar 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

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@versed helm he has had the same armor since the beginning of Halo 2. During cryo between halo 3 and 4 cortana did an overhaul on his armor’s systems and protection, changing the look.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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huh, thanks for answering by the way

green acorn Mar 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Welcome

unique rune Mar 28, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Yapyap is canon, I dunno what you all are on about.

raw sand Mar 28, 2019, 7:32 PM

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yes he is and its amazing

whole onyx Mar 28, 2019, 7:37 PM

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YapYap vs Chief

remote spruce Mar 28, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Yapyap is partly canon

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Like I doubt he can summon cannon fodder out of nowhere

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 7:42 PM

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chief would win, no competition

whole onyx Mar 28, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Sorry no

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YapYap > chief

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ez

carmine sleet Mar 28, 2019, 7:44 PM

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If this was Stolt vs Chief, my money would be on the Grunt since Stolt has won in a fight against a Spartan but since we've never seen Yap Yap in a fight, my money is on Chief

bold ice Mar 28, 2019, 7:45 PM

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I just finished Halo fall of reach (amazing) and am now reading The Flood. so far its good but the contrasting writing style between Nylund and Dietz is significant. takes a little to get used to

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also dealing with things being reiterated since each book is sort of a standalone is annoying

remote spruce Mar 28, 2019, 7:55 PM

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yea that's a common first reaction

bold ice Mar 28, 2019, 8:08 PM

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im playing through combat evolved on legendary right now so its taking time and while i read through the books im starting to piece together the lore

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pretty cool to do the two things simultaneously

modest marsh Mar 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Unfortunately it’s impossible to replicate the events of the novel exactly in the game itself

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On legendary for example the early shotgun doesn’t spawn

last anchor Mar 28, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Its only there on Easy

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Also, you dont pick up ammo from the dead ensign on the Pillar

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You just suddenly have ammo

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And theres no body to be seen

modest marsh Mar 28, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Active camo

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He’s there you just can’t see him

feral perch Mar 28, 2019, 8:47 PM

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also no mention of Alpha Base or any ODSTs

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in-game

obsidian thistle Mar 28, 2019, 9:18 PM

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You can get real close in CEA however.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 10:43 PM

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To what

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probably to the books

last anchor Mar 28, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Ye.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:38 PM

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Close to what @obsidian thistle

obsidian thistle Mar 28, 2019, 11:40 PM

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You can get really close in CEA to the stuff Chief does in "Halo: The Flood"

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I am making a "canon difficulty guide" and aim to be the first person to do it to prove it can be done.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:42 PM

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yooo. keep me updated on that

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Oh I thought the cannon difficulty is easy cause you know ur a killing machine

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i'd love to attempt it when it's finished

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chief is more on average for heroic actually

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But then reach would be heroic and

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ODST would be legendary

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ODST would likely be a variation of legendary for sure

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Cause ur weaker

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Reach will be harder than the main series cause your weaker

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And halo five should be easier on chief when compared to Locke

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I hate Locke so much

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Some with vail and Tanaka

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Buck is bareable In 5

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you arent weaker in Reach

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Yes you are

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no, you arent

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Spartan threes are weaker compared to spartan 2

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no, they arent

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they were typically just given weaker gear

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They were meant to be expendable

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but noble team were given mjolnir

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you should probably read up on it

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They also had less enhancements

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no they didnt

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I know they did

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Yes they did

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they did not

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they were just improved variants of the SII augmentations

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so they had slightly looser genetic restrictions

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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They did not have lesser enhancements

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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but they were also given 2 extra classified and experimental augmentations

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Everything they got was better than the S-II’s

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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they were just shorted on armor

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Man, I really wish we could put this thing to rest

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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which doesnt apply to noble

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noble was given proper mjolnir

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:48 PM

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SPI is better at stealth though

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:48 PM

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not SPI

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yea, it is

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:48 PM

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But it’s weaker protection wise

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:48 PM

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But Orion is a failure right

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Spartan 1s

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orion was an objective failure, yes

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but it did produce results

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besides for Johnson

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Johnson and several others successfully went through it as well

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Like (potentially) Byrne

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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That’s why Johnson is immune to the flood

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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He’s not immune

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Just harder to infect

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Oh

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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He’d have been infected had the others not been there

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Jenkins was immune right

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The dead marine

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no

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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No

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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But he wasn’t infected

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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His infection form was just weaker

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He was

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Then who was the dead marine

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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But he retained control of himself.

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Mendoza

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He was left as a trap

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Oh

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But the flood could think

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I thought the mind wasn’t made yet

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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They could still think yeah

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Oh

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but yeah. Spartans IV are the only 'weak' spartans

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just to clarify

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hence why they have Gen2 MJOLNIR to compensate

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:53 PM

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well, I's aren't as strong as II's or III's either.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:53 PM

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but they werent officially branded Spartans either

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 11:53 PM

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```Just harder to infect````
Nope. He is just as easy to infect as any other

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:54 PM

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but a II or III is equal, though Gamma III's are stronger than II's in some circumstances, they're certainly more durable.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:54 PM

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i thought alpha class of spartan 3s were inferior

stoic hamlet Mar 28, 2019, 11:54 PM

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no

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all III's have the same augs with Gamma having the best/special additions.

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Side note, can we pin this, this is like the third time I've seen the "III's are inferior" thing come up in the past two days. It's getting irritating.

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:56 PM

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@gilded mason Johnson does have a resistance to it due to the ORION Procedures

gaunt karma Mar 28, 2019, 11:56 PM

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he was harder to infect because the Spartan I augmentations, or Boron's Syndrome (whatever it was called) confused an pod infector due to the difference between his nervous system and the average human's nervous system

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:56 PM

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but Boren's Syndrome was just a hoax to cover it up

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it's due to the ORION augmentations

gaunt karma Mar 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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so, what I said

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:p

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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@versed helm
That was retconned

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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no it wasnt

gaunt karma Mar 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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when was it retconned?

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I'll repost what I said about it before

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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also uh is humanity consider a tier 2 or tier 3 civilization

gaunt karma Mar 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I honestly can't even remember what the tiers are

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:58 PM

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1 is forunners

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along with ancient humanity

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@gilded mason it was never retconned

gilded mason Mar 28, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Here it is

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Regarding the previous discussion about Johnson supposedly being immune to the Flood thanks to his augments, I found the dev talk I was thinking of:


Query Answer: No known biological [scaffolding] augmentation impedes efficacy of parasite conversion process.```
https://www.halopedia.org/Catalog/Archive/2014

This is after Staten's statement in 2004 about how he disliked that part of First Strike, saying they may retcon it in the future:
```JS: The books are, for better or worse, part of the canon. In the future we may choose to revise or flat-out ignore some of the less appealing ideas (Johnson's biological immunity to the Flood, for example), but folks should treat them as defining elements of the Halo universe.```
http://halostory.bungie.org/staten102204.html

versed helm Mar 28, 2019, 11:58 PM

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it doesnt impede it no

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it delays it