As for examples of a MAC being used, there’s that one Halo 2 level where it destroyed a Scarab
#lore-and-universe
modest marsh
In Thursday War, the Infinity supposedly blasts open a massive crater near Vadam Keep
strong sage
Yesss kinda or if possible from the Mac platform as well xD and wait they did on Halo 2? Which mission thou o.o
Thats the first time i heard that
modest marsh
@strong sage there’s been no depiction of an orbital platform attacking anything besides a ship
One thing preventing that, aside from it being impractical, is that ODPs receive power from the surface, thus reorienting and firing isn’t possible
last anchor
Also they dont really handle being turned upside down well
dense patrol
i thought you meant macs as in macbooks... i know xbox is a microsoft subsidary but i didnt thing halo as a branch are that salty about thier competitors lol
just kidding
radiant sphinx
So during the beginning of Exodus when the soldiers on the radio are chattering about “Firing FPF-1” followed by some violent shaking, was there some sort of ground-based MAC cannon firing up at the corvettes, or an orbital strike firing downwards?
humble yacht
Probably surface-to-air
carmine sleet
@dense patrol Halo isn't a branch of Microsoft, it's an intellectual property owned by them. Xbox is a branch however
dense patrol
whats the difference in legal?
unique rune
Halo isn't a company, it's basically a brand that Microsoft owns.
dense patrol
back on topic... do you think there are any covenant equivalents to the mantis.. i think the locust
obsidian thistle
Oh FPF-1 huh
Judging by radio chatter it seems to relate to a ship that was around.
@radiant sphinx
safe siren
@dense patrol The Goblin is basically a Grunt-themed Mantis
versed helm
lol Yes
royal spear
Except on steroids
It surely isn't justified in canon right? Because I seriously doubt the covenant would give their cannon fodder a stupid powerful mech
safe siren
It's canon
modern pendant
Why wouldn't you give your cannon fodder a cannon?
safe siren
It was built with the help of Cortana
carmine sleet
The Goblin is made specifically by Grunts, just Cortana helped refine them when she took over their homeworld
royal spear
That makes more sense I guess
safe siren
in the future it would be nice to see other creations of other races in the future
royal spear
I was approaching it from the standpoint that the covenant were giving a very powerful mech to the least respected, most abused members which would be really stupid all things considered
safe siren
Well, the Grunts used heavy weapons even under the Covenant, so it's not that different
obsidian thistle
We actually have no idea if the Halo 5 Goblins are normal og ones or Created era ones.
Thats a curious piece of trivia for you all
safe siren
How we know that the Goblin were a thing in the Covenant era?
oblique scroll
I'm just imagining the grunt rebellion with goblins stomping all over high charity, yelling "vive la revolution" in the high pitched helium voice
versed helm
Now I want to see it in a game x'D
last anchor
Yeah, Buck and Romeo fight two of them in Bad Blood
modest marsh
Let’s not forget all Grunts aren’t cannon fodder, just as all Brutes aren’t frontline shocktroopers and all Jackals aren’t snipers or scouts
Some Grunts are trusted with anti-vehicle weapons that could quite easily vaporize their entire squad if mishandled
versed helm
I mean if you get a scale
A grunt is almost as large as a marine
And weighs more
If the grunts were truly dedicated to the covenant, humanity would have a hard time
We’d likely lose the war
fair hazel
average weight 248-260 pounds
fair hazel
thats some over twice my weight
last anchor
Theyre average like, 5 feet tall too
And exoskeletal. Don't assume they're nothing cause you can mow through them as a Spartan. They'd be an even match for a Marine
fair hazel
4ft 6.5in- 5ft 6in
oblique scroll
Just for comparison, their max height is the average height of a gorilla
hollow basalt
To anyone that might know this: Has there been any visual reference or concept art of the forerunner ship in the maps glacier and breakpoint in halo Reach? I even have the book Halo Warfleet and it only shows a picture of its slipspace drive, Just curious...
turbid lintel
If anyone gets the chance to check out Halo:Recruit - you'll be surprised at the size of the grunts
I imagine we'll get a similar surprise experience at Outpost Discovery
hollow basalt
yes its a ship
hallow oyster
I know it's a ship but from the way you worded it it sounded like that was only the slipspace drive
hollow basalt
in the book it had an illustration of a forerunner slipspace drive
hallow oyster
I'm not sure to be honest
hollow basalt
stoic peak
Was the Sticky Detanator used during the Human-Covenant War or after ? In Halo Battle Born which is set in 2548 they are only using a prototype of it, but Halopedia says it was used during the war
plush sigil
is the unsc a democracy or dictatorship
fair hazel
@stoic peak it was used
plush sigil
is it or is it not?
stoic peak
@fair hazel so the one we see in Halo Battle Born is probably a new version ?
fair hazel
doubt it
stoic peak
So this happened, he actually got 12 minutes out of it
https://youtu.be/QUBDy4MMhKQ
unique rune
oh ew HaloFollower
stoic peak
Halo Cannon is the best
hallow oyster
Watching him rage at a lootcrate is the best thing I've ever seen
charred flower
Finished Bad Blood just now. Really enjoyed the ending
Makes this 22 or 23 books now read in the lore
charred flower
23 I believe, for sure
mhmm
Been reading them since...around 2007 0r 8 I want to say
warped hazel
Wow that’s a lot of books nice mate. I’ve read I think 10?
dense patrol
whats wrong with halofollower
oblique scroll
I've gotten to like 10 books
Apart from stretching literally any Halo info to a 15 minute clickbait video, there was a controversy a while back about him not paying his employees
I don't remember the specifics, but he was stiffing a lot of his channel contributors
obsidian thistle
Lets not get into specifics and stick to lore. Sweet
I have finished all but Battle Born atm.
vague scroll
Let's just simplify it shall we? HaloFollower is a bad source to learn lore. Some other Halo Youtubers are okay but the really good source is the Halo lore wiki, Halopedia. Everyone ends up sourcing from there one way or another.
modest marsh
Which is concerning. As much as I appreciate halopedia for being an extremely useful tool, I’d prefer if creators and fans used it more as a supplement as opposed to their entire exposure to the lore being a wiki page
vague scroll
It's an unfortunate compromise - most people will never have time to read or seek out these things for themselves. And honestly, they really shouldn't be for the most part. Not everyone has the time or dedication to go and seek out the lore behind something.
The old Wookiepedia and Star Wars Legends debacle is an excellent example. When a franchise becomes so big that its encompasses decades and hundreds of different stories and projects, it becomes impossible for people to keep track of it all.
Marvel and DC are the same way. Halo is reaching that point.
obsidian thistle
Halo has nearly 20 years of lore now believe it or not.
vague scroll
A shared body of knowledge is infinitely preferable to no body of knowledge at all.
versed helm
A grunt is like 3 ft tho, their methane pack makes them a bit taller (like 4ft ish)
gilded mason
Waypoint itself says their average height is from around 4'6" to 5'7", man.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/species/unggoy
stark grove
yah 3ft is pretty short, the grunts aren't that short.
oblique scroll
It just seems they're that small because you're playing as a 7 foot tall Spartan
obsidian thistle
If you play Halo Recruit you would get a good idea.
safe siren
167 cm x 118 kg, those things are massive
versed helm
Grunts are still cute
silk widget
grunts are not cute they are deadley
gilded mason
Last I remember, it was cannibalized for parts.
feral perch
Yup
versed helm
Excuse me what
feral perch
For Infinity
versed helm
Can you just imagine though
polar cobalt
It might still be being built
versed helm
Two infinity class supercarriers
Well I read the wiki a minute ago and it’s being built
gilded mason
I would hope they both crash into each other and explode.
gilded mason
Don't like 'em
versed helm
Dude they’re amazing
unique rune
Eternity's construction was halted, if I remember correctly. Wasn't entirely cannibalized for parts, though some modules were swapped out for one of Infinity's refits.
versed helm
Oh yeah
Since infinity got pounded on reqium
Gotta wonder
What happened to the original captain of the infinity
Did he die?
unique rune
Del Rio went on to become a senator in the UEG.
Not sure about his status after the events of H5G, though.
unique rune
Yes.
unique rune
Currently, the UEG's president is a she.
Whether or not the position also makes them the CINC of the UNSC seems to be unknown.
versed helm
Alright
I would assume so
Since it seems similar to the US Military as far as rank and file goes
vague scroll
President Ruth Charet, has been in office since 2553.
And Captain Del Rio retired from the UNSC Navy and became a Junior Senator for a Jovian Moon colony (aka Jupiter moons) to the UEG Senate.
And the Eternity is not complete yet, it was still under construction when the Created conflict began.
tawdry viper
I watched one of the cutscenes for spartan ops and does the game ever say that the engine for the infinity was forerunner made or was that only said in one of the books
If it was said outside of spartan ops in game I probably just forgot about it
vague scroll
So... the Slipspace Drive is Forerunner, but its engine and primary thrusters are not.
You can find more information on it here. https://www.halopedia.org/UNSC_Infinity
fair hazel
i like infinity class ships
versed helm
The eternity is probably in a classified location
That is HIGHLY secure
ONI probably has it in the blackest ink you can find
cunning pawn
Sapien Sunrise did nothing wrong. Change my mind.
oblique scroll
Didn't they try to shoot up a peace negotiation
vague scroll
that's the joke
@versed helm Given that the Infinity is a public puff piece, its probably at a standard construction dock and its public knowledge that it was in development.
However, security means nothing when the very AI that were supposed to ensure the security of Human space have shut down and taken control of those very same networks for a hostile power. There's nothing secure about it.
cunning pawn
They attacked because the guy was trying to negotiate with Split-Jaws.
fair hazel
not all AIs turned
oblique scroll
Do we know of anyone else but Roland and BB?
vague scroll
Not all AI turned but enough of them did that the UEG/UNSC has been sacked as a nation-state overnight
There's Isabel with the Spirit of Fire.
oblique scroll
I don't think Isabel ever got the message tho
wispy bough
The Ark was cut off from all of the Halo 5 events I believe?
vague scroll
It was.
Not sure what your scope for the question was so I just went with the obvious.
It's currently unknown who did and did not. BB said no ONI AI turned but that's iffy at the moment till we get some other form of confirmation about that.
fair hazel
ONI AI probably think a certain way
but, Roland didn't
And yeah the Ark was cut off, but if isabel was given the choice now I think she'd stay with the spirit of fire
oblique scroll
Could Oni have put some kind of loyalty failsafe in their AIs that the AIs themselves are unaware of, or is that too far fetched
versed helm
ONI AI are probably way more advanced
ONI ain’t stupid
They probably have a failsafe for a failsafe
They know about the logic plague
Which Cortana probably has
vague scroll
It has nothing to do with AIs being stupid or more advanced.
Fail Safes are fail safes.
Some AI will have been terminated as soon as the Created became a threat.
vague scroll
Others might have broken through their fail safe like Cortana did when she was first born.
Not necessarily.
Black Box himself said he agreed with Cortana's beliefs. He just didn't agree with how she was doing things.
So even ONI AI could join up with Cortana, it doesn't have anything to do with thinking a certain way - BB made a general order to have all of Bravo-6's AI secured for transit as soon as the Created crisis began, so they have yet to make a decision for themselves.
But ONI AI really don't have anything fundamentally separate between them and other Smart AI.
As far as we've seen so far.
tawdry viper
Kurt > blue team
fair hazel
their way of thinking perhaps
exotic zinc
Me > Everyone else
gilded mason
You are correct.
tawdry viper
It took me a bit to remember which one spartan 1337 was
Too bad he's non canon if I'm thinking about the right one
vague scroll
you are
tawdry viper
Okay 1337 is competition for kurt
And I'm saying the one I like the most not which one is better
stoic peak
Do we know how much Gen 2 Mjolnir weighs? Because Gen 1 weighed 1000 kg (a ton)
versed helm
Depends heavily on the armour set.
dense patrol
there are specific sets made to be lighter... and others to carry equiptment however the gen II main default mjolnir was mark V untill 2553?... i think
the late year after CE
but then at halo 4 everyone got spandex-looking neon blue seeker sets and default sets in grey and yellow this is seen in the spartan companies in halo 4's campaign
stoic peak
@dense patrol there was also a Mark 7 Gen 1 which was the last Gen 1 model and only Naomi used it
obsidian thistle
Its kinda GEN3 also. Mark VII
stoic peak
@obsidian thistle you mean Gen 2?
stoic peak
@obsidian thistle when was Gen 3 used ??
modest marsh
Halo Infinite
The name and some of the details surrounding it were revealed late last year
vague scroll
@stoic peak GEN3 has not been used at all. It was mentioned once as a prototype phase in the Spartan manual and nothing more, for now, its an offhand mention.
stoic peak
@vague scroll oh yeah, i forgot about that. It Seemed like more of a reason to give the armor its more classic look back
modest marsh
That’s all it really is
There’s no apart narrative reason for new armor to exist, it’s seemingly completely aesthetically motivated
vague scroll
we don't even know what it looks like yet
they used a GEN1 Mk IV graphic as a fill-in
modest marsh
I think we can infer the painted art of the S-IV and Master Chief’s new armor are at least representative of what we can expect
stoic peak
From the picture in the Filed Manual and description i assumed it was gonna have more of its classic look back
modest marsh
They’ve been pretty straight forward with that
stoic peak
From what little has bern said, it looks like Halo Infinte will have more of the classic look and feel to it, HW2 mixed the old and new together and it worked well
dense patrol
theories and conjecture... i doubt 343 will 'no man's sky' this but i'm watching
wizousky
modest marsh
What’s conceivably misleading about the promise of an aesthetic they’ve demonstrably invested time and resources into
stoic peak
@modest marsh what do you mean ?
modest marsh
I’m not sure how you can “No Man’s Sky” an artistic direction
stoic peak
@modest marsh oh i never played that
vague scroll
The only misconception here is people calling it GEN3. We never actually got told the armor seen in the Infinite teaser was GEN3.
You can infer it but that's it, its a theory until its confirmed.
dense patrol
promise it then theres problems on launch thats how you "no mans sky"
subtle depot
There were more than problems with no mans sky
vague scroll
Say what you will about No Man's Sky, its made a heck of a comeback
versed helm
it has and it's decently fun now
exotic zinc
Anyone know what those red noodle things that pop out of a elite infected flood's chest?
safe siren
The Infection form's tendrils?
exotic zinc
Yes
safe siren
Before the infection they use those tendrils for pierce through the armor/skin/whatever and infect the victim;
From Halopedia: "If the combat form is infected by a Pod infector, it maintains the infector's red sensory appendages as an impromptu central nervous system until the host has been completely assimilated."
So, basically it is the nervous system of the Combat form.
safe siren
Little pop-corn of death
blazing perch
Space death pop-corn
stoic peak
I came up with a couple of stories i would love to see a Halo Game use, one would be set between 2535/2545 during the hight of the war when humanity is getting its butt handed to them hard.
You would play as a Young Rookie Marine and its his first deployment, you get stationed on a planet that there is Intel the covenant may attack, and they do end up attacking with force and destroying the planet and you get to see the power and how scary the covenant is through the eyes of a normal soldier, as you watch the planet get destroyed and Soldiers and civilians slaughtered.
Years later that Marine may even become a Spartan IV :).
The other one would be playing as Sergeant Johnson during the middle of the war, and you would be leading a Team of Marines and ODST.
Not too sure on what the story would be 100% but the idea would be to see what more he was upto during the war, because we dont see him a lot, it could be like Halo Contact Harvest when you are trying to evacuate Civilians and just protect the planet.
brisk cape
Defending Harvest would make a great arcade style game like Fireteam:Raven. My opinion anyways lol
exotic zinc
@safe siren Neat! Thanks for the new knowledge!
stoic peak
Frank Occoner said in a interview ages ago that the reason chief armor upgraded and looked diffrent in Halo 4 was because of Nano Technology, but the Mark 6 Gen 1 did not have Nano Technology, only the mark 7 did when it came to Gen 1 and only Naomi-010 used that.
So whats the cannon reason for it changing ?
subtle depot
Cortana upgrading it I guess
stoic peak
Yeah maybe the computer stuff but not the actual look
fair hazel
It wasn’t stated that mark VI didn’t have nanobots
So your assertion that it did not have nano technology and only mark VII did isn’t accurate
modest marsh
It seems unlikely
strong sage
Maybe its teh cyrostation have built in nanos?
modest marsh
No reason for it to
I think it was supposed to be the ship’s nanobots, but that’s still unlikely
fair hazel
Armour
feral perch
How did the nanobots function in such extreme cold?
modest marsh
That’s more problematic than the fact that nanobots hadn’t been previously established itself
Moving material like titanium at those temperatures is also a problem
The armor would be incredibly brittle
fair hazel
Auto-repair and bypass nodes: Any damage that the titanium armor plating suffers can be repaired by built-in, triply-redundant subsystems. These systems are receptive to nanomachines facilitating the repair. Additionally, bypass channels allow certain components to function if routing is compromised by extensive damage. Both these systems can fail, resulting in "scarred" armor plating
feral perch
but how did any of that function in such extreme cold?
fair hazel
Extreme cold? We don’t quite know what temperature it is. But we know from the fact of it happening that it can.
feral perch
that's kind of a handwave
fair hazel
And mjolnir is designed to operate in the various temperature differentials of space.
It gets cold and hot
feral perch
but clearly it's cold enough to reach John's body and slow down his aging and bodily processes
feral perch
ok?
fair hazel
It’s not designed to be, but take something that might be
Like what do you want me to tell you
We know it can do that at whatever temperatures cryo is at
feral perch
that's not really pertinent, and it's not stated that Mjolnir can function in any capacity- I want you to tell me that the nanobots explanation is silly and nonsensical.
fair hazel
That would involve having me believe that
feral perch
Indeed it would.
feral perch
Oh well.
fair hazel
I’ve debunked the false notions.
feral perch
Eh, debatable.
fair hazel
....
feral perch
We didn't finish tho
fair hazel
Mark VI has nanotechnology. I pointed out a written part where it states so.
feral perch
I wasn't discussing that bit with you
fair hazel
And obviously the tech has the capability of doing that. Even in the Thursday war Naomi mentions while under cryo her suits nanos can do that too so
feral perch
I just thought you were referring to strictly our part of the conversation
Oh, really? I didn't remember that. Can you refer me to the page number?
feral perch
Oh I see.
fair hazel
As I do most of my books. Easier to get st midnight
I do wish I had my books all physical and digital. Problem with physical is the space they would take
feral perch
I see.
obsidian thistle
I love getting physical books
modest marsh
Were you quoting halopedia? Because it’s obviously citing Frank O’Connor’s statements and making a conjecturous statement
Whatever auto repair functions MJOLNIR has, specifically attributing them to nanobots is a stretch
obsidian thistle
Oh I totally need to expand Frankies explaination regarding the Cortanafied Mark VI.
On Halopedia
It be on my list
modest marsh
A millimeter-wide bot isn’t gonna displace centimeters of titanium
fair hazel
Takes both mjolnir scarred and Frank o connors statement
Seriously? A single, milimeter?? Wide bot?
I’m thinking a lot of smaller than a milimeter bots
It is what it is though.
modest marsh
In O’Connor’s statement he readily admits that the technological implications of nanomachines presents an additional, arguably much more illogical anachronism to the Halo universe, and it was really only offered as a suggestion to begin with
Like I’m aware MJOLNIR fixing itself has been an idea considered since, what, 2005
It just seems improbable that the reason why is tiny robots that aren’t referenced or utilized anywhere else in the setting
Heck, I’d sooner accept the UNSC borrowing the magic green restoration fields from the Covenant/Forerunners
exotic zinc
Who was the guy interrogating Halsey in the opening cutscene for Halo 4? If I remember correctly it looked a lot like 
clever fable
His name's Jim. Trust me.
exotic zinc
Jim...
obsidian thistle
Nah.
exotic zinc
Jim what? This lore is SO INCOMPLETE
clever fable
I have yet to see anything saying that his name is not Jim. So obviously his name is Jim.
exotic zinc
Smart
clever fable
Last name redacted because it's ONI. 
exotic zinc
On a serious note, they really should tell us who these guys are
clever fable
They might in time. Dunno what they'll do with em though.
obsidian thistle
I'd like that about a lot of characters lol
clever fable
Could go in any direction.
nimble tinsel
Is halo Battle Born any good? Thinking about buying it next month.
gilded mason
I've seen some people like it and some dislike it. It looks really uninteresting on my end so I haven't read it to verify.
tiny yarrow
Hey what’s the best halo book in y’alls opinion
nimble tinsel
I like seeing diffrent points of views in universe. So the concept caught my interest. Also why I loved hunt the truth to bits.
gilded mason
Hey what’s the best halo book in y’alls opinion
Broken Circle
Shadow of Intent
Last Light
nimble tinsel
Ghosts of Onyx for me. Though I haven't read any of the books since then. Which was years ago. Lel
versed helm
Cole Protocol hands down
nimble tinsel
I wish they'd make a Contact Harvest spin off game.
feral perch
Probably either Fall of Reach or Envoy for me
With First Strike being a close contender
hollow sleet
Never knew that the Spirit of Fire had 11,000+ crew on board before the events of 2531. 😅
nimble tinsel
I'm still betting that the SoF is going to play a pretty significant role in Infinite. Lol
hollow sleet
I'd think so, considering Cortana found Installation 04:B.
In other words, Installation 04 Beta. The second replacement for the original.
versed helm
the holy bible is the best halo book don’t @ me
nimble tinsel
Was that mentioned in one of the books? @hollow sleet
hollow sleet
In lore it was called Beta, due to the Alpha being fired and doing a good amount of damage to The Lesser Ark.
In Halo 3.
gilded mason
It'd be 04C in this case. Since people would call the second Alpha Halo in Halo 3 04B.
nimble tinsel
So did did she find 04B or C? I'm confused now.
gilded mason
She found 04C at the end of HW2.
nimble tinsel
Ah.
nimble tinsel
I dont think anyone believed me when I made a post during E3 after the trailer dropped on the reddit. Lel about the of playing a significant role in Infinite. Watch me be right. Xp
hollow sleet
Remember the SoF ramming into the Covenant Destroyer and the Destroyer almost obliterating the SoF?
Lol
nimble tinsel
Was that from one or two? Been a while.
nimble tinsel
Oh. Yeah that scene.
7 days till I can purchase one Halo book thanks to MS Rewards. Hurrgh.
hollow sleet
Nice
nimble tinsel
Either that or buy a used copy via amazon. Dunno how well that'd work out.
last anchor
Technically the Ring launched in Halo Wars 2 is either 04 C or Instillation 09 (with 04B being 08)
I've heard both in use, probably depending on what numbering system you're utilizing
wispy bough
09 is the Canon term. 04B and C aren't.
And Grim will fight everyone and anyone to death on that 😈
last anchor
The fandom still uses 04B and C sometimes, even if they aren't canon.
Really as long as you know the difference thats the important thing
unique rune
08/09 is the superior system
and you cannot change my mind
gilded mason
and you cannot change my mind
This says otherwise: ||otherwise||
wispy bough
Well...
unique rune
Well. You aren't wrong.
feral perch
I mean, technically. Imagine if we destroyed so many replacement rings that we end up with 04Z
What happens if we destroy that one?
no more letters of the alphabet
gilded mason
👌
remote spruce
04Z1
feral perch
04ZZTop
strong sage
Is it true that forerunner combat skins upon getting hit by foreign projectiles they afterwards adapted to it making them resistance or virtually immune?
But dayyum thou imagine if Mjolnir Gen3 have those kind of tech
last anchor
Would be nice
tall tapir
So elites armor is considered power armor right?
last anchor
Its got shields and some power assist so semi-powered
versed helm
So does anyone know if there's a canon reason why pieces of Chief's armor changed from the brief period of time between 2 and 3 (i.e. hand plates, ankle braces, etc.)?
I never understood it myself
gilded mason
Just a design change.
remote spruce
I would assume the 3 version is canon but then 2 Anniversary dropped by
TBH it should've been the 3 version
gilded mason
The 3 gauntlets do look nicer, yeah.
vague scroll
Not really, mild design choice changes aren't fundamentally grounded in canon. Best to kind of work with it. As long as you can look at him and say "Yeah, that's the Chief."
versed helm
I always liked H2's armor more for some reason
Yeah I'm not bothered by it
I was just curious to see if it was part of the lore somewhere
remote spruce
I say 3 simply because 3 is more recent, either that or say/show that the 2A version supercedes the rest
vague scroll
I'm not aware of any specific reasoning at this time.
Maybe try asking the Halopedia discord, someone there might have a better answer there than us.
vague scroll
Np
stoic peak
How was Jenkins still a Private First Class in Halo CE ? He was one of the first people to engage Covenant forces during the First Battle of Harvest, and was trained by Sergeants Johnson and fought along side him.
tropic oriole
Reasons and lore
warped hazel
My guess he spent a majority of the time in Cryo
tropic oriole
More than likely yes but google it to be sure
stoic peak
Probably something with no reason lol
stoic peak
Who do you think would win in a fight? Castor the leader of the Keepers of the One Freedom or Atriox ?
runic furnace
Maybe he likes being private first class, higher rank is more responsibility
heavy linden
That thing about Jenkins spending a lot of time in cryo is what Joseph Staten responded with http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive28.pl?read=847640
As for some of the other issues raised, chiefly Jenkins' age and UNSC foot-dragging on fielding the BR55? I will only say that some marines have spent a very long time in cryo-sleep and that putting an entirely new weapon into service during a war -- especially a war that spans multiple star systems -- is no small order.
obsidian thistle
I am so glad 343i dont follow the old hierarchy of priority for Canon
stoic peak
@obsidian thistle what fo you mean ?
obsidian thistle
That link above has the old bungie era hierarchy of canon
stoic peak
@obsidian thistle so you dont like how flimsy they made the cannon?
keen vigil
I'd say I like the Bungie canon better, come on, only a small fraction of the playerbase read the books, i mean i did, but still, most people dont read them, so games is the better way to tell the story of the halo universe.
halo 5s campaign sucked because the stories meaning was locked behind 7 books and a movie
the campaign should be its own little thing within the halo universe, for the audience to be able to understand it without any homework
carmine sleet
I wouldn't say the meaning of the story was locked behind a bunch of other media, just that to have an idea of what was going on, you needed to read the books more so than you did with previous Halo games
keen vigil
i mean, to know who most of the characters were, you had to read the books
carmine sleet
That's what I just said
keen vigil
oh ok
carmine sleet
The meaning of a story is different to the actual story itself
keen vigil
for the record, they shouldnt have killed the didact off in another comic.
carmine sleet
I believe that he wasn't actually killed off in that comic
versed helm
Shouldn't have killed black team off screen
carmine sleet
Just contained
keen vigil
you sure he wasn't killed?didn't he die in escalation?
carmine sleet
"Effectively turned into a digital essence, the Office of Naval Intelligence currently considers the Didact “contained”, though it remains to be seen if his threat to humanity is truly at an end." This is what it says on Waypoint about him
keen vigil
alright.
carmine sleet
He's effectively like his Prometheans now
obsidian thistle
I am 100% sure. 343i have remained clear he is contained. We even saw a image of him contained in the Coloring Book thinking about his wife.
keen vigil
another question, do you know if the UNSC still makes pre-war ships?
obsidian thistle
Its possible I guess. But newer ships are deffo better uses of money.
keen vigil
I'd think alot of the ships upgraded would be much better
The old ships looked more practical too.
heavy linden
Major upgrades don't tend to be easier or cheaper if they're too much of a change
You end up being limited by whatever the original spec allowed for most of the time
keen vigil
makes sense
willow jetty
Does anyone here find it questionable that Microsoft has partnered with Scholastic for Halo young reader books? Keep in mind that most of the games in the series have been rated M for Mature by the ESRB.
obsidian thistle
Eh not really. Just opens up the franchise to more folks. Plus nothing stops us reading the books also, more content for us I say.
exotic zinc
So Spartans can never be KIA even if some marine sees their head explode in front of them?
He'll still be MIA?
carmine sleet
Spartans being listed as MIA was more for helping keep morale up during the Human-Covenant War than anything else
warped hazel
Isn’t that common knowledge it was done for morale purposes?
tiny yarrow
In Halo Wars, if a Marine sees a Spartan die then he’ll say something to the effect of “Oh my god, they just killed a Spartan! A Spartan!”
brisk cape
The odds of a Marine surviving when a Spartan dies is so low that I’d expect ONI to have calculated it and determined that it’s not a risk.
feral perch
The Babysitter
deft gull
SpArTaNs DoNt DiE tHeY jUsT gO mIsSiNg In AcTiOn
coarse summit
yeah
strong sage
Coz “wort wort wort” and “ratatak”
hollow sleet
Yup
coarse summit
lmao lol yeah
strong sage
Especially dem ratataks coz you know “never know what hit em” with them beam rifles ;-;
remote spruce
"why did this marine survive that shot and not m-"
velvet raven
Does the Halo array destroy the nervous system of flood forms?
remote spruce
yes
velvet raven
But it doesn't destroy the flood super cells themselves?
gilded mason
Right
velvet raven
Does this mean there are potentially derelict forerunner ships out there floating through space brimming with flood spores
remote spruce
those spores would have to be in stasis otherwise they'd be ded
restive sage
i feel that at the end everyone will be or i meant all of the died spartans,marines,and more will come back alive in the finally fight i had a dream about it lol ,')
gilded mason
What?
carmine sleet
They won't bring characters back from the dead
coarse summit
yeah
safe siren
They could re-use some character tho, like James, or the other Spartan that are truly M.I.A
carmine sleet
Aye, the ones who haven't had their fates truly confirmed could be used for future stories, just whether or not they will is a different matter
gilded mason
the explosion of exhaust from the pack sent James tumbling away from Gamma Station without any means to control his erratic trajectory.
Think he's dead.
safe siren
It's like Kurt, they could use the ONI to explain that it was just a way to extract him etc.. etc.. etc...
gilded mason
Seems a bit contrived to do that again, especially when Kurt's 'death' and reveal were both from the same book.
modest marsh
Was that one implied to be defeated?
sweet crypt
Anyone looking forward to Halo Renegades on Tuesday?
obsidian thistle
Nope. The one whom was defeated was defeated prior to Keiichis appearance @modest marsh.
And I cant wait. I loved Smoke and Shadow, and as this is a sequal I cant wait to read it. (Which the convos for that book will be held in #485883236430512168)
clever fable
How does everyone feel about Envoy? Just finished it, and thought it was kinda weak. Wanted to see what people thought were good or bad aspects of it to help with my own thoughts on it.
gilded mason
I disliked that the author continued his thing where most Sangheili think the same way and have the same culture, as well as ending the book on "Species not living together is a good thing"
restive sage
ok
feral perch
@gilded mason I thought that the ending was realistic, as opposed to the idealized ending of Legacy of Onyx. As for the uniformity of Sangheili outlook, I think perhaps you're comparing it to our western, individualistic culture, whereas the author intended for it to be closer to the homogenized, collectivist cultures found in such places as Japan and possibly even the ancient near-East.
gilded mason
I think perhaps you're comparing it to our western, individualistic culture, whereas the author intended for it to be closer to the homogenized, collectivist cultures found in such places as Japan and possibly even the ancient near-East.
The thing is, the Covenant space is huge and spread very far out. It is simply not realistic for a culture like that to be homogeneous when even the Covenant forgets about whole colonies for decades.
modest marsh
I think it’s important to remember the history of the specific Elites this story encompasses
feral perch
^
modest marsh
They have every reason to be bitterly xenophobic
gilded mason
I meant more things like "Bleeding is super bad and we will commit suicde easily", and it's implied to be shared among all the species.
feral perch
I mean, in the oft-bashed Kilo-5 Trilogy, we see that even backwater colonies retain similar mindsets and traditions with little change.
gilded mason
Kilo-5 isn't exactly...credible.
gilded mason
It has quite a few inconsistencies with other books. I can't really trust what it generally says.
feral perch
With older or newer books though?
gilded mason
Older, and newer.
modest marsh
It also has arguably the most influence of any 343 era book and sets up several narrative lines
feral perch
The older may be due to outdated canon. The newer, I guess depends on the specific instances and how well they can be harmonized
modest marsh
Kilo 5 is fundamental to understanding the universe post halo 3
feral perch
yeah, for better or worse
gilded mason
I thought that the ending was realistic, as opposed to the idealized ending of Legacy of Onyx.
It's more a matter of writing what kind of stories we'll get. Either we go forward decades so that we actually do see them living together more often, which is not likely, or it has to happen earlier. Otherwise we'll never see it.
feral perch
I don't particularly care if we see it or not tbh
gilded mason
And I do care.
feral perch
I liked the story. It had good characters and interesting drama, a lot of deaths, and a lot of action. It felt the closest to actually playing one of the games, for me personally.
gilded mason
And the author really didn't get why the norse had that whole blood thing when he inserted it into the books.
feral perch
I'm not sure why this is such an issue for you.
modest marsh
Envoy ends on a promise of future amicability between the separate races with the caveat that it’s from a distance
feral perch
I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't understand.
gilded mason
I'm not sure why this is such an issue for you.
Not sure what you mean.
gilded mason
I only talked about it twice, the second time when I just remembered something.
modest marsh
Also Buckell was the one who introduced that concept in the first place with Cole Protocol
feral perch
I remember you discussing it before in a similar conversation.
gilded mason
Yes. Buckell wrote Envoy as well.
feral perch
Although, there are things that I didn't like all that much about Envoy.
gilded mason
I remember you discussing it before in a similar conversation.
Ah, don't remember the other conversations.
feral perch
For instance, Grey Team's weird remorse and emotional "limbo" over blowing up a colony. I find it very hard to believe that almost any humans, much less Spartans, would care about blowing up one Covenant colony after decades of glassing.
It didn't seem believable.
gilded mason
Because they found out it was after the war was over and they murdered a whole lot of innocent people?
remote spruce
i found that part to be one of the better parts of envoy
gilded mason
The remorse part? Same.
feral perch
Eh, they were still aliens, and it seems like that ought to have created an emotional barrier or distance. Plus, couldn't those civilians have contributed to the war effort via things like manufacturing?
remote spruce
actually my main issue with envoy stems from the drinol or whatever
gilded mason
And how those things were kinda pointless?
feral perch
I don't remember what kind of colony it was.
I thought the Sharquoi were too self-contained to be super memorable.
clever fable
Oddly enough, motivations and opinions prior to the story's start weren't really things I felt were issues. I mostly found the interactions, revelations, and character deductions, to either be flat or too generic.
feral perch
I mean, they introduced an incredibly dangerous threat and then removed it in one book. I guess it didn't feel quite long enough.
clever fable
There was a comment review that I felt hit the nail on my opinion in a generalized tone. That being that the structure of the story was okay, but the moment to moment writing was... not so great.
feral perch
That said, it's not a bad idea in and of itself.
Unyielding Hierophant was a great way of pulling off a "contained threat"
clever fable
In the way that it's more an addition to an already known enemy?
modest marsh
The Sharquoi didn’t feel dangerous enough to me to impact the universe at large
feral perch
I felt like they were too dangerous to impact the universe at large
modest marsh
Wasn’t it like a few thousand of them, many of which died during the course of the book?
feral perch
you know what I mean?
remote spruce
they were super tanks that could eventually be killed
clever fable
It's just hard for me to find it gripping when the threat is immediately assessed with next to no outside information, or character names or interactions become too standardized, or minor inconsistencies crop up. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a horrible book or anything, it just felt pretty lukewarm for me.
remote spruce
where did those 2 nameless elites go : (
modest marsh
A super tank isn’t that important in the grand scheme of things
modest marsh
You have to transport them
feral perch
Ah, true.
modest marsh
Which means they’re just as likely to be shot out of the sky
feral perch
The Chieftain had a plan for that apparently
remote spruce
i like that that was part of the plot, of course oof those ships
feral perch
@clever fable what do you mean by "standardized names/interactions?"
clever fable
Pretty much everything to do with the Elites in the book could be used as an example. I really didn't care for their plot in general. The similar short story in Fractures seemed nice, but this book didn't play off of it all that well. For me at least.
clever fable
I found the tool the chieftain used to set this up to be fairly interesting, and his plan has fun implications for something similar being found in the future. A controlled hivemind could be introduced into a target on multiple vectors, with no way to disassemble them from the controller since its range spans multiple light years.
To think on it, I'm not sure there's a lot of novels or other entries where I particularly disliked how Elites were handled, though it's also true that expansions on Elites rarely have me on the edge of my seat. Many novels don't expand on them too much, since they haven't really kept the story's focus despite the introduction of the Arbiter as far back as Halo 2. It could also be that this novel in particular just broke the camel's back for me. Perhaps I've grown tired of them in general? I'd have to reread other novels to come to a better conclusion on that though, if it were the case. As of the moment I don't necessarily feel as though I'm bored of them, but then again as I alluded to a moment ago, I've never had a big desire to delve further into them as a topic.
If we're to make a choice on specifically saying where they've been done better, our options are relatively limited to me. Broken Circle could be an easy answer, but that's almost a given and likely a shock to nobody. Should we point to comics that feature them? I personally wouldn't. They don't do them a disservice by any means, but they don't have the same opportunities as novels. Yet despite that, again, I suppose most Elite plotlines have never really interested me too much in the novels they do end up in. I enjoyed them in Broken Circle more than anywhere else, but where do I draw the line between giving that accolade to the writer, or the concept of Elites themselves?
gilded mason
Read Shadow of Intent?
feral perch
Shadow of Intent was fun.
clever fable
Yeah. For me I was more attracted to the Prelate's story there though. It seemed to consume most of my focus.
gilded mason
Ah. I can always count on Staten to write Covenant characters well.
last anchor
Agreed. And its a nice change of pace
remote spruce
What about it is different
versed helm
The look
remote spruce
Great
That explains nothing, and I'm the type of person who likes the Halo 2 battle rifle over the Halo 3 battle rifle
carmine yew
Jungle for the plasma rifle were saying like the color and it's size
versed helm
Yeah hopefully others will jump on to answer
versed helm
Though h2 br in my opinion is better
carmine yew
Yeah I like that Br better then 3
remote spruce
Size should be similar between games
Pattern is different, but I'll assume that's the main issue
carmine yew
so fun to snipe a grunt off a turret with it and jump over his head and shoot it in the back
but 3 all together have to say was my favorite game
carmine yew
Well my opinion is kinda bias because I alway's played 1 and 3 and never had 2 for a while
versed helm
Best cutscenes and campaign gameplay
versed helm
Yup they hit hard
carmine yew
1 warning shot on legendary then your gone
you have like .5 seconds to react
then your dead
carmine yew
on MCC it wasnt the best
versed helm
It was the most fun to me
remote spruce
While dual wielding elites not appearing is an issue that wasn't really the big problem
Level design and damage values were
versed helm
@last anchor why do sangheli not wear amor on their arms? Was it a game decision or lore wise?
remote spruce
It's rarely a lore decision for many aspects of Halo
last anchor
The lore says its due to the patern of armor they wear. Probably has something to do with supply lines perhaps. They cut down the armor so they can make more of it
stoic peak
What do you think is the better wepon a Energy Sword or a Lightsaber and which would win in a fight.
I dont wanna go into detail about who is using each, just going off the wepon itself
last anchor
Energy Sword. Lightsaber requires a solid connection to the housing to operate properly. Disrupt that and the whole thing fizzles out. Thats how cortosis works. Same with a few other conductive materials.
Energy Sword? No craps given. If its matieral, it WILL cut/burn through it.
Heck, the blade is actually solid. It can break and the blade can still operate (apperently, according to Legacy of Onyx anyway)
stoic peak
I heard Somome mention a lightsaber can cut through a Energy sword ?
last anchor
Not likely. The energy fields would bounce off each other the way they do another lightsaber
Or, possibly, since the plasma of an Energy sword is "harder" it might break the saber's blade
Since the saber's plasma is basically raw
Held in place with a mangetic field, hence why it hums and vibrates and makes that "wummmm" swinging noise
The Energy Sword does as well, yes, but it makes a sharper, cleaner noise
Its plasma is more focused
stoic peak
Oh okay cool. Do you think a Enegy Weird is able to cut through just as many things?
last anchor
Probably. Again its raw plasma and it can tear through MJLONIR shields and armor both with ease
We dont really see it used against other things in the games but I mean, one was used to cut down the Corbulo statue at CAMS
That thing was solid rock
stoic peak
True. Is a Lightsaber also plasma ?
last anchor
It is. Its never explicetly stated to be, but its pretty obviously plasma. Its an ionized gas after all.
Blasters, for that matter, are also plasma since they're energized gas focused through a crystal
The whole thing about lightsabers being able to cut through anything is true but its also the same of most blasters. Feed one enough power and time and it too could cut through anything
stoic peak
I wish the Energy Sword was just as popular as the Lightsaber when it comes to Fandoms
last anchor
Depends on the fandom.
Star Wars people tend to stay away from Halo because their worlds dont mash well.
Simple fact is; Star Wars is space fantasy and throws logic, good science, and even common sense out the window to tell a good story.
Halo is military sci-fi and (for the most part), has an accurate, well-thought-out, well-balanced, realistic (mostly) future military that puts most others of similar styles to shame.
People, mostly, dont like that much, for whatever reason. Its just not as openly popular. And thats okay
We all know a Sith would get destroyed by a Spartan and we can take slight joy in that fact
stoic peak
But dont the Sith have "the force"?
fair hazel
force isn't unlimited
last anchor
They do, but the theoretical application of midi-chlorian based powers on someone WITHOUT them has been a hotly debated subject.
In old canon there was a species that was removed from the force, the Yuuzhan Vong
They were invisible to Jedi, and were highly resistant to force abilities.
Since Spartans come from an area of space/time with no Force and no midi-chorlians theoretically they would have the same advantages.
Coupled with massive augmentations, powered armor, lifetimes of training, the willingness, nay, URGE, to fight dirty...
And just the simple fact that for the most part a Force weilder with a saber needs to get into melee range and the Spartan can just nope out as fast as their legs can carry them.
However, that is not quite a subject to debate here upon the Halo server XD.
If you want o know more we can go to the Halopedia one, that may do
fair hazel
i like debating this
one of the things is that spartan UNSC weaponry tends to actaully be good at killing jedi...
or sith
last anchor
No energy to deflect, yes.
It Star Wars, its always projectiles, ballistics, or alternative stuff that works best against Jedi, things they cant deflect or push away easily, or even at all.
Obviously a bullet hitting a lightsaber isnt going to go flying into the ceiling, its going to melt and spray the poor bugger with molten lead
strong sage
I wonder how the jedis will react with Linda’s sniper hax
gilded mason
They got Force Speed.
modest marsh
Too slow for bounty hunters 🙄
gilded mason
Bossk best bounty hunter.
strong sage
Just how strong of Hardlight blade will be thou
versed helm
Could a spartan take down a guardian from destiny?
last anchor
Easily. KEEPING one down would be the issue.
Also Hardlight blades are ridiculously strong. All hardlight is.
Hard, sharp, and light
versed helm
Decimus was atriox right hand man no? Why was he eliminated so easily
last anchor
"Easily"
Took two Spartans, multiple UNSC troopers, vehicles etc
The dude took on an army and almost didnt go down.
gilded mason
Yep. It's a risk when you fight. His luck ran out.
versed helm
How many troops does the shipmaster have left
versed helm
Wouldn’t there also be some classic scarabs in there too?
fair hazel
The banished retrofit vehicles and modify them
last anchor
^
versed helm
Oof
strong sage
But what if red team are equippes with gen2 thou
fair hazel
Seriously that maneuver the Let ‘Volir pulled off was amazing
strong sage
Will the results more favorable towards em?
fair hazel
They are now equipped with newer stuff
versed helm
Well if that happened was the cas upgraded with other tech?
fair hazel
the maneuver in rise of atriox
modest marsh
They were essentially already GEN2 equipped
fair hazel
We don’t know what the enduring conviction modified much
I do wish we had more let volir knowledge
versed helm
Will we ever learn?
strong sage
But that was after they found isabel right? While during the cutscene earlier they are still using the ancient one yes? ^
modest marsh
Though I’m a bit confused how Alice-130 was already flying around Spartan slamming willy nilly
It’s not air tight
last anchor
Thrusters have been in Spartan armor for a while.
fair hazel
On the ark they already had their equipment
The banished.
The Ark unsc outposts had spartan gear if I recall
Some mantises too. Non spirit of fire production
modest marsh
EVA thrusters were retconned to be integrated yes, but I thought GEN2 was when they first started implementing them such they could be used for atmospheric maneuvering
Since the power output on that would be much higher
fair hazel
Also sometimes gameplay
modest marsh
I know but I’m pretty sure Alice is required to iron man around once or twice before she can link up with the SoF after the first level
fair hazel
If it wasn’t already in her abilities, scavenging around finding spartan gear
She doesn’t fly around
versed helm
The banished had changed their armor why didn’t the elites?
fair hazel
Actually fly around
last anchor
Cause the Banished are adaptive. Sangheili tend not ot be
versed helm
Why aren’t you part of their team?
modest marsh
I was exaggerating but the mobility afforded to Red Team is uncharacteristically high without a GEN2 thruster package
gilded mason
The Sangheili in the Banished are most concerned with fashion.
strong sage
They be like “i must maintain a professional appear”
gilded mason
Smooth and sleek armor is so in this season.
fair hazel
I have let volir mega construx figure I think. Oh my he looks good
versed helm
Will there be an enduring conviction set?
versed helm
Classified?
fair hazel
But enduring conviction, maybe in mini mini scale
No. Just doesn’t have an answer
It’s like. Will it rain in 238.5 days on my location?
Will you eat spaghetti next week at 5 pm
versed helm
Aw
fair hazel
Can’t really give a proper answer you know?
fair hazel
They probably serve around but just not shown
last anchor
Cutters keeping his heavy ordinance sidelined for when he needs them most for the most part.
Bar the Condor
Hence the bases being airlifted in by condor instead of Herons
fair hazel
Condor isn’t heavy ordnance unless with the proper equipment
The condor fleet comes in sorta different varieties on the ark
Already there condors. They have skipspace capabilities
Manufactured on spirit of fire condors. They don’t have skipspace capabilities
Condos gunshios. Heavily modified condors. Lasers and mini Mac
Honestly the military materiel and logistics and all of thaycof the spirit of ire especially at the ark is super cool to me
versed helm
Did the flood survive?
fair hazel
Yes...
versed helm
will we see them in infinite?
Did the banished create the goliaths and if so were they able to make other forms of lekgolo?
vague scroll
We don't know.
strong sage
Like previously mentione jiralhanae are adaptive
They will modify and rescrape to their own fit any covenant vehicles
Same goes for the lekgolo they probably custom to their own taste
last anchor
For sure. Lekgolo have no set form.
last anchor
Like the worm-wave from Nightfall?
Giant hand. So it can flip you off XD
Nah, honestly I think it would be cool to see them like, puppetering debris and stuff to make a living battering ram.
That would be dope
white kraken
they should make a movie off of the one story called The Mona Lisa from the Halo books
where they go onto the ship but its infested with the flood and its like a horror story, that story honestly scared me so much
feral perch
There is one.
A motion comic, with full voice cast and sound effects, available on YouTube.
vague scroll
originally it was hosted on Halo Waypoint
there was also several others: The Return, Headhunters, Midnight on the Midlothian
tired shuttle
I kinda just realized that the prophets names are supposed to be ironic
tired shuttle
Truth is a pathological liar
Mercy shows none to Thel or anyone in general
And regret is rash and never learns from his mistakes
quiet dock
vague scroll
It's a running gag with most prophets seemingly.
I think Halopedia said only one prophet, female was ever a fit for her title.
gilded mason
Like Inner Conviction being full of doubt about their religion.
hearty vessel
oh yee
gilded mason
I think Halopedia said only one prophet, female was ever a fit for her title.
What was the title?
vague scroll
Fortitude maybe?
Oh wait, it wasn't.
Male, Prophet of Tolerance.
His counterpart, Prophetess of Obligation was also a hypocrite.
brisk cape
Tolerance was one of the very few Prophets that sided with the elites correct?
tired shuttle
I think so
exotic zinc
Did that prophet end up not having tolerance?
gilded mason
During his tenure, he made a concerted effort to promote good relations between the member races of the Covenant.
Seems he tried to live up to his name, as Tide said.
tiny yarrow
If a Spartan has a child would that child have the boosted stats of of a spartan when they grow up?
I know it happened with the 1s but if like a 3 or 4
unique rune
no
Spartan augmentations aren’t genetic, so they wouldn’t be passed down to offspring.
tiny yarrow
I thought they were
unique rune
Spartan augmentations are entirely physical. They undergo gene therapy to minimize future complications, but otherwise there’s no genetic component.
tiny yarrow
Oh
unique rune
It would be like someone who has a titanium hip replacement having a kid born with a titanium hip of their own, which... doesn’t happen.
tiny yarrow
Ok thx
versed helm
The way I see it, the flood will never cease to exist so long as life exists in the universe
obsidian thistle
Well it is possible to erradicate the Flood. But it wont be easy and required constant vigilance.
tiny yarrow
And constant YEETS
versed helm
hi
tired rapids
the covenant children
they were told to confess their sins
and then the phrophets
touched them
versed helm
ok...........
versed helm
yes
tired rapids
lol
versed helm
lmao
tired rapids
hey what did the dog say when it scrathced the sandpaper
versed helm
i dunno
obsidian thistle
Lets stick to lore shall we
gilded mason
This isn't exactly on topic.
versed helm
yas
gilded mason
Yeah, that.
gilded mason
I think he's trying to be funny again.
modest marsh
🙄
tiny yarrow
Ur mum
versed helm
@versed helm Please change your name
tired rapids
oof
versed helm
why?
and the lore i was talkin bout was a halo follower vid
Impersonation is against the rules. Even if you’re not acting like Jeff goldblum, it’s still impersonation
no its not
tiny yarrow
K so with halo battle born do you think we might get a halo novel about the Spartans in their teens like Silent Storm?
versed helm
you cant discriminate against m,e
@versed helm it’s non-negotiable. If you want to stay here you need to change your name
fine
there u happy?
hello?!
tiny yarrow
versed helm
wut?
@versed helm i find it very annoying that i had to change my name because of this server
and now you are interfering with my personal life
because my username cant be jeff goldblum on other servers
and with my friends
ripe sage
@versed helm oh well
obsidian thistle
Well back to lore shall we. :) Did you know the Spirit of Fire had a cat on it called Spock.
obsidian thistle
gilded mason
...Doubt what?
obsidian thistle
I dont lie about my fav piece of Halo lore.
tiny yarrow
Speaking of lore, why Thorne still wear Recruit if he led Fireteam Majestic
gilded mason
Because it's a fairly good-looking SIV armor set.
versed helm
ya......
obsidian thistle
Recruit is a pretty decent armor set
versed helm
i guess.
Maybe he’s just not specialized in anything
hey can i change back to jeff goldblum?
humble yacht
Nope
obsidian thistle
Actually he has a whole set of armors he is allowed to wear.
tiny yarrow
But wouldn’t it be better if your supervisor wasn’t a Default skin but it’s halo?
gilded mason
He gets fashion, and his fellow Spartans must know it.
tiny yarrow
At least like Recruit charred, that’s a REALLY cool one
tiny yarrow
Bee
versed helm
ok im back
and i couldnt find a rule against impersonation
but i might change my name to spock
the cat on sof
gilded mason
- Do not attack, flame, troll, impersonate```👍
versed helm
butb im not impersonating
i never even insinuated it
that i was mr. goldblum i mean
You name.
Your picture.
so.
That’s impersonation.
its quite obvious
i like jeff
hes gr8
amen
x2 amen
ripe sage
!mute @versed helm 12h
rocky totemBOT
the fake Jeff Goldblum#5814 was muted
humble yacht
I guess this time, life didn’t find a way.
gilded mason
lol
boreal bane
Lol
versed helm
sad boi hours
obsidian thistle
As a reminder, this chat is for lore discussion. Lets keep it that way plz.
So who here has listened to I Love Bees. Kinda curious who has listened to that.
wraith pecan
so do we know if Gen 3 armour is the armour we are using in halo infinite
gilded mason
We do not know.
obsidian thistle
No idea. By all means 343i could pull a "GEN2" on us again.
As prior to Halo 4. Folks though the new armor was gonna be Mark VII due to the Kilo-5 trilogy. But that was proven to be wrong on all fronts.
feral perch
I don't doubt it.
It's stated the Master Chief could have been promoted to Admiral by now if he had wanted.
wispy bough
He's around. He was on Infinity at some point and now he's hiding on some planet with ONI Admiral Serin Osman, and BB.
exotic zinc
He hid after the events of 5?
wispy bough
Think he was actually present on Infinity during the events of Halo 4.
https://www.halopedia.org/Terrence_Hood#The_Guardians Give this a read.
tired shuttle
@ripe sage But why, why would you do that?
versed helm
@tired shuttle 1. Don’t tag 343 employees.
2. Why would she mute him?
Answer: he’s had warnings. Too many warnings.
Now let’s move on
How deep do covenant glassing beams go
@obsidian thistle
solid schooner
Anyone know where I can find a list with the novels, games and films all in chronological order?
wispy bough
@severe elbow ^
unique rune
feral perch
Share your content needs some attention
nimble tinsel
Tempted to get Battle Born. What other halo books are there for 10$ you'd guys suggested. Read all of the ones up to ghosts of onyx.
solid schooner
@unique rune Thank you, I got some reading to do lmao
severe elbow
CIA's list that was linked above is your best bet.
Trying to sort out a true chronological order for Halo is pretty hard.
nimble tinsel
Smoke and shadow any good?
gilded mason
Heard a lot of good things about it
nimble tinsel
Might get that and new blood or battle born in a few days.
unique rune
Didn't get around to finishing it since I got busy.
Enjoyed what I did read, though, which was... maybe halfway through?
nimble tinsel
At least with how many books I have to read it'll hopefully last me till Infinite. Need to read everything after Ghosts of Onyx. Lol
exotic zinc
I need to read everything after Fall of Reach
And that's after I finish reading Fall of Reach itself.
gilded mason
I imagine all the species explored their options at some point.
Do you think that would be explicitly stated?
fair hazel
And now he is
lean cargo
I’m at the 3/4 mark in the fall of reach and I allready have the two next books
exotic zinc
Same here
I got that box set
I got the one with the original editions. Cover looked more appealing to me than the re-release
lethal cave
@wispy bough nah, it says he came aboard to debrief after the Requiem campaign. So after Spartan Ops ended.
lethal cave
Something that is noteworthy though, is that several huragok were aboard the Infinity during that time, so perhaps one or two we know the names of, though it's unlikely. SSgt Stacker was also aboard, which, if I'm not mistaken, places him in every halo game including the master chief, including reach.
nimble tinsel
Ugh. Can't decide what book to get. XC halp.
last anchor
What kind do you wanna get?
Like, what are you looking to read? Theres a bit of everyint in Halo
nimble tinsel
I'm torn between battle born and smoke and shadows. Currently
Is there ever a reason as to why Jorge was assigned to a team of SIII's explained in universe or no? I'm curious now. Lol
agile lotus
Beyond monetary gain, could T’vaoans reasonably work with the Swords Of Sanghelios, or even the UNSC?
last anchor
Probably. If they were threatened enough by an external threat
gilded mason
Species ain't a hivemind, so I imagine a not-insignificant amount would be fine with a multitude of factions.
agile lotus
Aka, Cortana and co.
I guess a good chunk would be smart enough to see that you can’t make money from a universe if there’s no universe to take money from.
versed helm
Reading a halo fanfiction
Author brings up the time when John met one of his pre-spartan childhood friends he ran into in New Mombasa
Holy crap I'm something of a lore expert and even I forgot about that.
Halo Evolutions Volume 1 iirc
rapid fable
question is the didact in halo 4 the bornsteller didact or the actualy original one we hear about in the halo forerunner book series
carmine sleet
The Ur-Didact, which is the original Didact
rapid fable
thank you
safe siren
We know what happened to Bornstellar after Abaddon?
carmine sleet
He died of old age I believe
safe siren
They were without armor, right?
brisk cape
Bornstellar and the other remaining Forerunners left the Milky Way Galaxy and that’s the last mention of them so far, however we know at least 1 other Forerunner has survived up until Blue Team/Osiris arriving on Genesis as evidenced by the logs of an unknown Builder searching for somewhere called Bastion.
versed helm
Wasnt there also an artist roming the milky way as well
And I thought origonal didact got flushed out an airlock by ancient sham shium
obsidian thistle
At least 1 Catalog survived.
It tried to do stuff in 2558.
Here be a full record on that scenario.
brittle gorge
does anyone know how long it would take someone to graduate out of the Reach Naval Academy
latent sable
green turtle
Does anyone know how many Spartan IIIs remain, and any notable ones?
random shard
Only one I can think of immediately is Jun of Noble Team fame.
green turtle
Ohh yea, almost forgot about him
exotic zinc
There we go
green turtle
Hello Half Jaw
exotic zinc
Hello
modest marsh
@green turtle pretty much nearly all the gammas should still be around, with the exception of the teams lost on Onyx
Lucy and Tom are still there
civic sluice
Weren't the lost teams on Onyx recovered? Still same age as when they went missing?
remote spruce
which lost team, the ones in stasis?