#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 158

clever fable Jan 19, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Death doesn't necessitate pain in an organism. Likewise, pain doesn't necessitate death. Some organic systems simply don't show any (currently traceable) receptors for pain that we know of. Failing that, you could always fall back on 'neural physics' since that's the Flood's 'get out of jail free' card.

kindred island Jan 19, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Yeah true, just how would they run away though or infect something in self defense if it was to be attack?

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How would they know to run or stay

modest marsh Jan 19, 2019, 3:12 AM

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@wheat ravine Flood forms aren’t frail in canon, in fact they are significantly tougher than live bodies

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The reason they fall apart so easily in gameplay is because their character models are designed to do so

kindred island Jan 19, 2019, 3:13 AM

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Dang it, stupid game logic.

modest marsh Jan 19, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Also, there’s a handful of cases where combat forms have infected people, but I think it requires blood-on-limb contact

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In Halo Wars an ODST was bit by a Flood form and he was subsequently infected later on

kindred island Jan 19, 2019, 3:32 AM

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True

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It can be a instant proses or a period of time depending on where or when bitten

wheat ravine Jan 19, 2019, 3:45 AM

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@modest marsh Wrong Omega. Here @narrow wadi

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But thanks for the insight

modest marsh Jan 19, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Whoops, mb

wheat ravine Jan 19, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Nah I was wondering that lol

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So thanks haha

versed helm Jan 19, 2019, 7:54 AM

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True statement the forerunners are dead

woven pelican Jan 19, 2019, 7:56 AM

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Actually, it's "True statement, the Forerunners are dead, although the Prometheans do still live, and technically the Warden is a Forerunner"

hasty geyser Jan 19, 2019, 7:56 AM

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I mean

versed helm Jan 19, 2019, 7:56 AM

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Actually, it's "True statement, the Forerunners are dead, although the Prometheans do still live, and technically the Warden is a Forerunner"

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Better

gilded mason Jan 19, 2019, 7:56 AM

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And other Forerunners are still alive, like that guy looking for Bastion and maybe Bornstellar's kid.

hasty geyser Jan 19, 2019, 7:56 AM

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Isodidact and co left the Milky Way after the firing

woven pelican Jan 19, 2019, 7:56 AM

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Warden Eternal is a Forerunner A.I.*

hasty geyser Jan 19, 2019, 7:56 AM

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So

keen ravine Jan 19, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Wait.

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Um after Librairan Died she passed on to another

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and 343 is looking for her rn

clever fable Jan 19, 2019, 5:26 PM

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That falls under what Draw said.

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Bornstellar, Chant, and however few remaining Forerunners bounced out. Bornstellar and Chant had a kid on their own little planet, while everyone else dispersed to wherever. Chant's the one that the Librarian gave her title to.

full forge Jan 19, 2019, 7:00 PM

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So if the MA5B has a compass, and ammo readout why doesn't it have a sight?

runic furnace Jan 19, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Wasn't there some terminal about some random builder wondering how is Warden still walking and that he made some pact with someone... But who?

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 7:03 PM

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@full forge the sight is essentially the "HUD".

full forge Jan 19, 2019, 7:03 PM

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But not all marines have a targetting reticule on their HUD?

vague scroll Jan 19, 2019, 7:05 PM

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goggles and targeting modules all have HUDs as well

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its the future, every Human rifle has a camera and targeting computer that uses Augmented reality tech to auto aim for you

last anchor Jan 19, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Pretty much anything that can take data feeds can be a sight most likely

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Also the Smart Link which protects it

vague scroll Jan 19, 2019, 7:43 PM

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tbh, I'm not sure whether "Smart Link" refers to the connection between the weapon and user or refers to the security apparatus regarding it...

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Is there a new fall of Reach edition coming out?

gilded mason Jan 19, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Nope.

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 8:59 PM

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But theres pre-orders on Amazon and Simon & Schuster @gilded mason

gilded mason Jan 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Ah, got a link?

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Yeah one sec

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https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/HALO-The-Fall-of-Reach/Eric-Nylund/HALO/9781982111618

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Look at the shipping date

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Ebooks and audio books are fine tho

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Hmmm

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Seems like a new re-release.

gilded mason Jan 19, 2019, 9:08 PM

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I think that's just how long it takes to ship

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Oh?

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:08 PM

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I'll dub this the yellow label copy

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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/712Rl35gAOL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

gilded mason Jan 19, 2019, 9:09 PM

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On another note, I'm not sure why this book and First Strike have Spartans in non Mark V armor on the cover.

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Also seems the the name got a changed to a generic font

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Won't let me post the Amazon pre-order link

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Actually

gilded mason Jan 19, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Oh, I think Shahik got muted because of him wanting to post that link. Are you able to fix that, CIA?

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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The og novels up to Evolutions seems to be getting releases this year

gilded mason Jan 19, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Are there any differences?

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Not that I know. But lets not post the pre-order links atm.

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Sounds good.

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I hope one day that the audiobooks for halo will be like the star wars ones.

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With sound effects and like music. Cole Protocol kinda did it with the music.

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:26 PM

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@fair hazel you may be interested in these btw the og 7 books re-releases

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 9:37 PM

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CIA, where did you see that they're releasing? Couldn't find anything on a re-release except for Fall of Reach.

fair hazel Jan 19, 2019, 9:37 PM

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ooo

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although the yellow sticker seems to ruin the art

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 9:37 PM

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the moment when: The Master Chief tells Johnson that his lines of fire are sloppy

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misterchief

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Oh I dug deeper into it.

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Amazon and so on told me

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Heh... Halopedia admins.

versed helm Jan 19, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Mark IV always looks soo good

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Then you see it in halo 5

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And it’s just

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xpoop

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 9:39 PM

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@obsidian thistle I see your tweet 👀

fair hazel Jan 19, 2019, 9:40 PM

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mark IV looks good in hlo 5

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Yea I be a HP admin lol. Its my job to dig into stuff like this so you all have accurate info

fair hazel Jan 19, 2019, 9:40 PM

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i like to wear the helmet

wispy bough Jan 19, 2019, 9:41 PM

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That's the one seen in Halo Wars right?

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Kinda

wispy bough Jan 19, 2019, 9:41 PM

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In which case, it looks incredible in H5

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Its not 100% right in Halo 5

versed helm Jan 19, 2019, 9:41 PM

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It’s a different version

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^

wispy bough Jan 19, 2019, 9:41 PM

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It's still 🔥

versed helm Jan 19, 2019, 9:42 PM

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It’s more 🔥 in concept art

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And the HW cutscenes

wispy bough Jan 19, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Like everything else in the world 😋

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The real issue is the lights on one side of the helmet being inverted 🤓

versed helm Jan 19, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Then you see it in game
And it’s just like welp
I guess this is ok

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I can deal with this

unique rune Jan 19, 2019, 9:51 PM

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H5's Mark IV seems to be based on concept art for Mark IV rather than the actual final models.

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Its a mix

charred flower Jan 19, 2019, 10:49 PM

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anyone like listening to Halo audiobooks or reading their ebooks?

fair hazel Jan 19, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Ebook

obsidian thistle Jan 19, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Only Audiobook I like is the Primordium one. And thats cause its the closest to canon we will ever get for a whole book.

spiral lily Jan 19, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Ive to all the audiobooks

versed helm Jan 20, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Remember the sarcophagus that was built around that unknown alien vessel that crash landed on Alpha Halo?

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Here's the question...what became of that sarcophagus after the destruction of Installation 04...is it still floating somewhere in the debris field of Alpha Halo or did it get crushed by the gravity of Threshold?

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Anyone?

wispy bough Jan 20, 2019, 12:56 AM

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@obsidian thistle 👀 ^^

unique rune Jan 20, 2019, 12:58 AM

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I think the answer is "no one knows" because I don't believe 343 has ever referred to it beyond the CEA Terminals.

vague scroll Jan 20, 2019, 12:59 AM

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It has been mentioned in a Catalog post, however, it was intentionally vague.

versed helm Jan 20, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Speaking of the CEA terminals...was GS's line about other alien races visiting Alpha Halo prior to the Covenant and UNSC retconned?

unique rune Jan 20, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Doubt it.

versed helm Jan 20, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Or was all of The Conversations of the universe retconed?

vague scroll Jan 20, 2019, 1:34 AM

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No those are still canon

versed helm Jan 20, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Alright..i'm just wondering why GS never mentioned the ship again

unique rune Jan 20, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Probably because that material was written before the CEA terminals even existed.

versed helm Jan 20, 2019, 1:41 AM

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True

fading timber Jan 20, 2019, 3:35 AM

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tashi

gilded mason Jan 20, 2019, 3:35 AM

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Yo, Grimmy-Wimmy.

charred flower Jan 20, 2019, 4:46 AM

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👀

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look who it is

spiral lily Jan 20, 2019, 7:29 PM

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@obsidian thistle What is this sarcophagus??

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Oh that

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It was a thing Guilty Spark buried a ship with that crash landed on the ring

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Nothing was retonned @versed helm btw. Species just went to the ring after the crash landing and with time Spark grew annoyed with them.

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Still I really wanna know what confidence turrets are that Spark threatened the PoA with.

versed helm Jan 20, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Same

versed helm Jan 20, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Could be large swarms of sentinels

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Enforcers maybe

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2019, 11:36 PM

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@fair hazel why you talking lore in halo gear btw? Seems rather outta place.

fair hazel Jan 20, 2019, 11:38 PM

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I thought I was in the lore place...

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I must have misclicked it on accident

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Alright, as I was.

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i wish we knew more about kinetic bolts

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2019, 11:40 PM

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I'd expect its like the Morph sight. Experimental in nature

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If the Special weapons in H5s campaign are canon.

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Then only 1 human weapon with it has been made.

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https://www.halopedia.org/images/d/dc/Halo_5_shotgun_3.png

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The Blaze of Glory

fair hazel Jan 20, 2019, 11:45 PM

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are you saying you dont think the kinetic bolts exist?

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Psst #485883236430512168 @bleak scaffold

fair hazel Jan 20, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Battle Born discussion in spoilers only

bleak scaffold Jan 20, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Oh, sorry

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Didn't think that was major enough to be a spoiler

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Minor or Major we dont take risks.

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Regardless

versed helm Jan 20, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Remember the Enforcer sentinels from Halo 2?

obsidian thistle Jan 20, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Kinetic Bolts are weird. If the Blaze of Glory is canon on the Argent Moon then at the very least prior to March 2557 ONI had been working on it. That is prior to any interactions with the Prometheans and their weaponry

versed helm Jan 20, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Do the other Halos and the Lesser Ark even have Enforcer sentinels?

quiet dock Jan 20, 2019, 11:57 PM

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but this is Oni

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Oni is one of the few entities that can be retconned without much effort

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They could have interacted with some promethean installation and not reveal it to the UNSC

obsidian thistle Jan 21, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Well true.

versed helm Jan 21, 2019, 12:01 AM

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A big question..will we end up fighting ONI

gilded mason Jan 21, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Maybe. They're certainly villainous enough to try something even more egregious than what they've already done to cause them to be outright enemies.

versed helm Jan 21, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Tbh..it would be fun to blow the brains out of some ONI agents

versed helm Jan 21, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Oni Spartans vs UNSC Spartans

torpid sonnet Jan 21, 2019, 2:33 AM

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The flood whipers in Halo Wars 2 awakening dlc are those also pure forms or their own stage?

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or the Abomination as they are called on the wikia

feral perch Jan 21, 2019, 2:35 AM

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Those are Keyminds.

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I believe they are pure forms..

strong lotus Jan 21, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Would anyone else like to see the Drones return I think they would be interesting to see again

limpid kernel Jan 21, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Yes

clever fable Jan 21, 2019, 11:50 AM

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Fairly impartial on them tbh. There's always room to explore with them lore-wise though.

stark veldt Jan 21, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Hi guys. I was wondering. Is there any trace of oni trying to make a smart AI from a brain of different a specie than human?

modest marsh Jan 21, 2019, 1:06 PM

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No

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That sounds extraordinarily dangerous for all parties involved

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Even with ONI’s resources, trying to figure out an alien brain well enough to copy it accurately seems outside of the realm of possibility

mental plover Jan 21, 2019, 1:26 PM

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I dunno...

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The boogey man of Humanity has it’s ways.

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During the Human-Covenant war, they could have taken bodies or (highly unlikely) prisoners and ship them back to ONI facilities.

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Kig’yar, Unggoy, Mgalekgolo worms, Jiralhanae, Sangheli...

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“... Research and Development, like ONI’s always done.”

modest marsh Jan 21, 2019, 1:34 PM

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That doesn’t mean they have mastery of alien neurology

mental plover Jan 21, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Of course not.

modest marsh Jan 21, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Well

mental plover Jan 21, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Though we can’t really say how far they’ve picked through.

modest marsh Jan 21, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Smart AI are a relatively new development compared to how long we’ve studied the human mind

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30 years doesn’t seem like it’d be enough in ideal circumstances

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Most of ONI’s specimens would be dead or near death

mental plover Jan 21, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Indeed.

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Though there’s always more.

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You’d think they’d be scouring Forerunner shield worlds for this type of knowledge.

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More so from the Librarian, given how she studied us and them. Prior to the firing of the Halo arrays.

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Better that then nothing I suppose.

sage fossil Jan 21, 2019, 4:17 PM

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true

clever fable Jan 21, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Need to be careful about how often Forerunner technology is used as a stepping stone in advancements. Do it too often, or for too many reasons, and the story starts to suffer.

versed helm Jan 21, 2019, 9:55 PM

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A part of me really wishes that we never learned more about the Forerunners. It was fun having their story up to an individuals own imagination.

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Mystery is part of what made the Forerunners great.

oak heath Jan 21, 2019, 9:56 PM

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True

severe elbow Jan 21, 2019, 9:57 PM

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My opinion is they were a mystery for 10 years. I'm fine learning more about them. Things staying a mystery for the sake of there being a mystery is something I'm really not fond of.

oak heath Jan 21, 2019, 9:58 PM

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To much knowledge of any kind, always brings a corrupt side to any battle

vague scroll Jan 21, 2019, 10:18 PM

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there is a need for balance in all things

oak heath Jan 21, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Correct

strong lotus Jan 21, 2019, 10:37 PM

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How do you guys think a hive of drones would do against a outbreak of flood

vague scroll Jan 21, 2019, 10:39 PM

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about as well as any other advanced civilization, so, poorly...

severe bone Jan 22, 2019, 3:13 AM

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The flood spores alone would be enough to beat them drones

clear wren Jan 22, 2019, 3:17 AM

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But they can just fly away.

remote spruce Jan 22, 2019, 3:18 AM

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True, but their hive can't

vague scroll Jan 22, 2019, 3:18 AM

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and Flood spores are airborne, they're like any disease or parasite, once they're inside you, they incubate

remote spruce Jan 22, 2019, 3:21 AM

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So would it be a slow infection like in Mona Lisa?

vague scroll Jan 22, 2019, 3:24 AM

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yea

torpid sonnet Jan 22, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Anyone wonder what the animal life is like on shangelios thinking they must get food somewhere

gilded mason Jan 22, 2019, 8:01 PM

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This talks about some.
https://www.halopedia.org/Sanghelios#Ecology

obsidian thistle Jan 22, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Beat me to it ;)

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More I was looking up the actual animals

gilded mason Jan 22, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Thought about doing that too, but I'm lazy. 😉

lilac palm Jan 22, 2019, 9:24 PM

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@stark veldt hmm. Good One. However I think why a non human smart A.I from a brain of a non human would not work. The elite might not be compatible.

spiral lily Jan 22, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Oh oh

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The food they made for Jul

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The shirukan or something

unique rune Jan 22, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Irukan

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also colo

tulip folio Jan 23, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Name: Thel vadame
Faction: Sanghelli
Rank: Arbiter
Species: Sangheili
Gender: Male
Homeworld: Sanghelios
Height: 8ft 1in
Weight: 153 kilograms
Skin color: Black
Weapons: Plasma repeater, Needler Rifle, Energy sword, grenades
Equipment: deployable shield, armor lock, cloak, hologram
Bio a ship master soon an arbiter earned his the title Kaidon within his keep fights for UNSC and Sangheili Fought with great arbiters in war and betrayed prophet of Truth

feral perch Jan 23, 2019, 3:57 AM

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uh what is this?

tulip folio Jan 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Thel vadumee

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Sanghelli stuff

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It in the lore

feral perch Jan 23, 2019, 3:58 AM

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I see.

tulip folio Jan 23, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Yea

feral perch Jan 23, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Is that from the wikia?

tulip folio Jan 23, 2019, 3:59 AM

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No I made it

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I have a lot of spare time

feral perch Jan 23, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Ah nice.

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When did the arbiter use a Needle rifle though?

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I usually see him with an Energy Sword

tulip folio Jan 23, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Yes

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@feral perch

charred flower Jan 23, 2019, 4:05 AM

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I forget: how many Ph.Ds does Dr Halsey have? Isnt it ten?

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Who would be her closest male equivalent, out of curiosity?

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what do you think her character flaws are? We already know how smart and innovative she is. Would you consider her something of a leader?

tulip folio Jan 23, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Name: Prophet of truth
Faction: Covenant
Rank: High Prophet
Species: San'Shyuum
Gender: Male
Birthplace: High Charity
Height: 7'2
Weapons: Type-25 Directed Energy Pistol (Plasma Pistol), Gravity cannon (On Throne)
Vehicle: Gravity throne
Bio: after prophet of truth died he took over the covenant he got rid of the sanghelli and and replaced it with jiralhaanea and soon tried to activate the ark but then right before he was about to activate it Thel vadame kill him and his last words were I am the truth the voice of the covenant

vague scroll Jan 23, 2019, 5:23 AM

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He used a brute spiker in halo 3

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To kill miranda

mental plover Jan 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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San’Shyuum are 7 foot..?

vague scroll Jan 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Elongated necks. they're hunchbacks.

unique rune Jan 23, 2019, 6:11 AM

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smh
Truth was 7’3”
not 7’2”

quiet dock Jan 23, 2019, 6:12 AM

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still taller than Chief

versed helm Jan 23, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Arbiter is 7 feet 9.9 inches

hasty geyser Jan 23, 2019, 7:06 AM

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Promethean Warrior-Servants were 11'6" at the least

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Big pog

rustic jackal Jan 23, 2019, 8:39 AM

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how tall is a gardian

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gurdian

hasty geyser Jan 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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1.4km @rustic jackal

rustic jackal Jan 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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is that like 1 mile

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american sorry

hasty geyser Jan 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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.88 miles

rustic jackal Jan 23, 2019, 8:41 AM

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does master cheif eat at all on his adventures

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like trapped on reqium

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or on the misson with blue team in h5

versed helm Jan 23, 2019, 9:03 AM

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He eats a snickers here and there

rustic jackal Jan 23, 2019, 9:32 AM

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makes sense

hasty geyser Jan 23, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Promethean Warrior-Servants were known to use levitation tech in their suits (e.g. their concept art), was it ever talked about if they used that levitation as another advantage in ground combat?

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i.e. using it to easily traverse terrain, disorienting combatants, travelling quicker etc.

agile lotus Jan 23, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Since we know that Covenant species can use UNSC weapons, what if we got shotgun Skirmishers?

fossil monolith Jan 23, 2019, 3:55 PM

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I don't like that thought.

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Scary

agile lotus Jan 23, 2019, 3:58 PM

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What if they were on our side?

fossil monolith Jan 23, 2019, 3:59 PM

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But could you couldn't

subtle depot Jan 23, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Elites with saws confirmed

modest marsh Jan 23, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Brute with The Answer

pulsar kayak Jan 23, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Jackels with nornfangs

vivid dust Jan 23, 2019, 5:50 PM

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that's Halo 2 really

last anchor Jan 23, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Nah they got beam rifle deltas

versed kelp Jan 23, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Lol

versed helm Jan 23, 2019, 7:55 PM

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thinkingchief

fair hazel Jan 23, 2019, 10:18 PM

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warrior-servants had constraint fields draw

keen ravine Jan 23, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Anyone else here have a Flood Fetish?

gilded mason Jan 23, 2019, 11:59 PM

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What aspect do you enjoy the most?

lofty lichen Jan 24, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Flood sucks

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Especially in Halo 1,2, and 3

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 12:32 AM

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how do needlers work

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like super combine

strong lotus Jan 24, 2019, 1:19 AM

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I always wondered that too

modest marsh Jan 24, 2019, 1:32 AM

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Magic

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The broadstrokes are, blamite is a unique material that when energized will propel themselves and embed themselves in living tissue, then detonate explosively into smaller shards until they’re inert

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Presumably this has a multiplicative effect when multiple shards are in close proximity

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 1:35 AM

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something similar to critical mass I would assume

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and the ammo casings somehow restrain the needles from exploding in advance

modest marsh Jan 24, 2019, 1:35 AM

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I’m gonna assume that’s dependent on being exposed to an energy source

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Blamite is mined of course

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It’s not perpetually volatile

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It’s also possible that the needler shatters the crystal itself, possibly explaining the violent noises it makes upon reloading

agile lotus Jan 24, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Blamite itself has the volatile properties, but the Needler handles the target tracking.

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That’s why the Needler Rifle doesn’t track, because it’s firing mechanism is designed differently to that of the Needler.

modest marsh Jan 24, 2019, 2:10 AM

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That’s somewhat conjectural is it not?

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According to Halsey’s journal there is no known connection between firing mechanisms and controls

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Which would lead one to think that the shards themselves are self propelled

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I mean, you don’t need to point the weapon at a target to maintain the homing behavior

shut raptor Jan 24, 2019, 2:28 AM

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So question for all of you it says here that the Mgalekolo (hunter) home world is called "TE" any idea what it looks like or what the planet is like?

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Gas giant.

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Surrounded by rings of debris from Forerunner stuff that the Lekgolo consumed.

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Also it's blue.

shut raptor Jan 24, 2019, 2:33 AM

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What about the Huragok (engineers) it says N/A

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 2:35 AM

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Huragok are artificial, biomimetic machines created by the Forerunners.

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They don't really have a home planet.

shut raptor Jan 24, 2019, 2:35 AM

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oh I see it here now

remote spruce Jan 24, 2019, 2:35 AM

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I never liked how most of the Huragok somehow fled after the war.

gilded mason Jan 24, 2019, 2:36 AM

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Their stated disappearance is one more oddity of the Kilo-5 books.

shut raptor Jan 24, 2019, 2:37 AM

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How about the home world of the Yanme'e (drones) Palamok?

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:39 AM

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the yamm'e homeworld good question

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i have no idea

remote spruce Jan 24, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Wonder if it's a giant hive lol

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:39 AM

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but i would liken it to the period where earth had high amounts of oxygen

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and giants bugs lived

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 2:40 AM

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I'm gonna point y'all in the direction of Halopedia, which'll answer your questions far better than I can.

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https://www.halopedia.org/Palamok

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:41 AM

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intresting

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its very barren and tropical

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were the letgolo spared from the halo array

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or did they evolve after the firing

shut raptor Jan 24, 2019, 2:45 AM

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looks like they were buried to save them

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used to combat the flood

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:48 AM

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makes sense but why were the promethans created then if letgolo were good at it

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 2:48 AM

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The Lekgolo weren't good at it.

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The Forerunners tried to combat the Flood with Lekgolo.

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Emphasis on tried.

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That's why Thanolekgolo, the variety seen in Nightfall, exist.

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:49 AM

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sorry i havent read the forunner triolgy

shut raptor Jan 24, 2019, 2:49 AM

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the flood outgrew everything the forerunners threw at it

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:50 AM

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biggest mistake forunner did was keeping flood samples ON the ring meant to destroy them lol

shut raptor Jan 24, 2019, 2:50 AM

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it would make sense to burry the mgalekolo after the firing of halo they would emerge

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Keeping Flood samples on the rings wasn't really an awful idea.

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For one, the habitable surface of the Installations were protected from the firing.

shut raptor Jan 24, 2019, 2:51 AM

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studies to destroy them thanks to the monitors

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:51 AM

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is master cheif iso didact i know this is a theroy but it is intreating thinkingchief

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 2:51 AM

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No. He's not the IsoDidact.

shut raptor Jan 24, 2019, 2:51 AM

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Reclaimer

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 2:52 AM

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343 Guilty Spark mistook him for the IsoDidact at some point, I believe, but that's about as far as it goes...

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:53 AM

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crazy how bungie was thinking about all that back in halo CE

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 2:54 AM

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I doubt they were thinking about all of the IsoDidact stuff because the separation between Iso and Ur Didacts was a 343 thing.

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:54 AM

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maybe but its weird none the less

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Bungie's original plan for the Forerunners was for them to be the same species as humans. So.

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 2:55 AM

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really

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that sounds cool

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and makes sense why only humans can touch forunner stuff

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i hope 343 guilty appears in infinite

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Or what is Eayn (the Kig'yar homeworld) like?

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Since it is the fictional moon of a real life exo planet

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 3:48 AM

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maybe like a world of scoudrols

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https://www.halopedia.org/Eayn

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halo pedia

tulip folio Jan 24, 2019, 4:35 AM

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So who loves the rookie from halo ODST

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Well no one ok I see

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|Name ~~[more like alias]~~|
The Rookie
|Common Name|
Rookie
|Sex|
Male
|Age|
22
|Species|
Homosapien
|Height|
Six foot, one.
|Weight|
190 Pounds
|Birth Place|
Crisium City, Mare Crisium, Naniwa, Luna
|Appearance|
The Rookie dawns the iconic armor of a Helljumper. This black, perhaps even menacing armor is worn so often by him, and for such times it is often joked about that it is his second skin. His helmet's dark blue visor conceal his face, which is rarely if ever seen. Besides that his helmet bears a white stripe. The chest plate of his ODST Battle Dress Uniform has a scabbard for his trusty Ka-Bar Combat Knife. Besides that on his left waist there is three HE grenades, and on the right there is a single Napalm Grenade. On his right leg there is a holster for his M6S pistol, on his back there is his rucksack carrying various supplies. Lastly on his neck section of the armor in white there is '11282-31220-JD, Private First Class, UNSC Marine Corps, 0+.

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If u need something done for u send me a dm but is has to be something that I can make

rustic jackal Jan 24, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Rookie is my fav charater

tulip folio Jan 24, 2019, 5:10 AM

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So any one know Jerome from halo

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Bois

gilded mason Jan 24, 2019, 5:10 AM

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The Spartan?

tulip folio Jan 24, 2019, 5:10 AM

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Yes

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Well you ready for something

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Yes or no ??

gilded mason Jan 24, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Sure.

tulip folio Jan 24, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Basic Information:
Name: Jerome Cable
Age: 20 [Cryo]
Height: 6'9 [Out of Armor]
Height: 7'3 [In Armor]
Weight: 290lbs [Out of Armor]
Weight: 990lbs [In Armor]
Gender: Male
Species: Human
Birth Place: Palaikos Borderlands, Minister
DOB: May 8th, 2511

Faction United Nations Space Command
Branch: Navy, NSWC
Class: Spartan II Program, Class I
Spartan Tag: 092
Rank: Senior Chief Petty Officer
Equipment: BR55 Battlerifle | M6C Magnum | 2x M9 Fragmentation Grenades
Specialty: CQC Fighter/Marksman

Side Information:
Personality: Jerome is regarded as an inspirational and highly competent leader. Some aspects of of his Spartan II Conditioning makes him prefer Direct Action.
Likes: Direct Action, His Shotguns, Honesty
Dislikes: Incompetent People, Dishonesty, Being off-task
Callsign: Sierra 092 | Red Actual
Quote: "My Heart Bleeds"

Backstory:
Jerome Cable was born on May 8, 2511 to a poor family in the infamous Palaikos Borderlands, an undeveloped portion of the human Inner Colony of, Minister. A rough world that forced him into an early childhood of crime where he also realized his capacity for extreme violence. He was of a genetic make-up that Doctor Catherine Halsey regarded as desirable for the SPARTAN-II program. After being selected as a suitable candidate for the SPARTAN-II program in 2517, he was abducted and sent to Reach, where he was specially trained to be a Spartan by CPO Franklin Mendez and the artificial intelligence construct Déja. He and the other candidates underwent a series of augmentations to improve their physical and mental abilities. Jerome was one of a number of "washouts" whose bodies initially rejected the augmentations, but he was able to be retrained and re-augmented separately like a few other Spartans.

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U like it

cedar hound Jan 24, 2019, 5:15 AM

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Dang that is good

unique rune Jan 24, 2019, 5:24 AM

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and today on “info that anyone could find by going to Halopedia”...

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 5:31 AM

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@unique rune I've missed your cynicism

spiral jewel Jan 24, 2019, 5:38 AM

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@tulip folio for Rookie, it should also say: day of death: January 3,2554 (age 28) Draco III. (Buck's home planet)

strong lotus Jan 24, 2019, 5:50 AM

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So does anyone know if odsts actually have any sort of augmentations

carmine sleet Jan 24, 2019, 5:53 AM

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They don't have any

fair hazel Jan 24, 2019, 6:31 AM

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@tulip folio I would ask you to please not do that, it doesn't serve a good enough purpose and it's kind of spammy.

obsidian thistle Jan 24, 2019, 10:57 AM

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*Plus this place isnt a wiki.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 11:46 AM

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No need to berate the poor guy

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Wow..the Rookie was young

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I wonder how a Black Dagger would fare against him

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 2:27 PM

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The Rookie is good, but he's just another regular ODST. Kind of hard to say how a Black Dagger would compare when they're both ODSTs.

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Should mean they're the same on one hand, on the other hand, we don't know to what degree eithers' training or experiences would differ.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 2:51 PM

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@vague scroll Black Daggers can make a Spartan sweat at a mere 12-to-1 ratio. Regular ODSTs can only do that with a 25-to-1 advantage.

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Those are very broad numbers.

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The reality is far more complex.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Pretty sure that's just the writer's way of saying "they're twice as good". No need for much mysticism there IMO

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they also laughed off the torture methods employed by Silent Shadow elites. "Mind-melters" as they were called

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 2:56 PM

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It's not about mysticism, its that in war, anything is possible. It only takes a lucky insurgent with a dirty rifle to kill a Navy SEAL, no matter all the best gear, training, and intelligence in the world. It all comes down to luck. There are far too many variables to account for.

I can agree that Black Daggers are more elite than your typical ODST, however, the size and scope of Alpha-Nine's atypical mission unit and structure and the lack of knowledge regarding where they stand in the hierarchy really doesn't give you any idea what position or skill that the Rookie would have to compare to a Black Dagger operator.

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 2:58 PM

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A Grunt on its best day can kill a Spartan on their worst day.

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Exactly.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 2:58 PM

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With all die respect, you kinda just defined mysticism with that fist part

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First.

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 2:59 PM

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That's not mysticism, that's reality.

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I'd rather not dig up news articles for you regarding any numeral bad operations that have happened in the last two decades involving tragedies in the Special Operations community.

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It's the same reason I dislike "versus" topics in general.

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Starship vs starship. Franchise vs franchise.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Yeah, but it's drawing out intangible events that fall short of any, let's say, "empirical" value. We're talking about training sessions repeated for days on end, all coming to a consensus that they are worth around 25 ODSTs

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:01 PM

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More like the author just decided "how do I make my guys seem cooler? Oh, I'll just throw a 'x is better than y' and run with that."

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Denning is a good author but I don't like comparison tropes. They're boring.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:03 PM

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I don't think so! I love how they seem to contrast and flesh out certain capabilities. It's a great way to flesh out the scale of everything that's going on

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:03 PM

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And on top of that it leads to situations where it leads to discussions like this one or it leads to people in their roleplay servers or wherever saying "you can do this because "x is worse than y'"

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It would be far better writing for someone to explain the training hierarchy and training pathway that it takes to reach specialization in the ODSTs than just telling us this man is worth this many other men.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Well, you can't really go that deep without actually needing some experience yourself - otherwise you kinda come off as a bit of a stuffed shirt. But I understand what you mean

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 3:06 PM

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To be fair, I don't think Denning was doing that. An explicit point in the training exercises between the Black Daggers and the Spartan-IIs is that their performance invariably had to do with the tactics that Colonel Crowther, and later Sergeant Johnson, utilized against the Spartans. And their best performances also hinged on it being a training session and taking advantage of that (although it seemed Colonel Crowther was willing to employ those tactics in real combat, so IDK).

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Still - the 25 figure was something John admitted to being true during their many training exercises on Reach, as well as being the same number spread by ONI spies in the same novel

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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The public domain provides enough information that emulation can come down to filling in the blanks, experience is something to serve for giving scope. You don't need experience to write something well, only the curated knowledge and respect for the topic being discussed.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:15 PM

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You do. That's like thinking you would accurately portray the feeling of writing a billionaire when you are not. It's simply not going to happen - which is why I'm fine with a little playing around with numbers, since it still helps build a sense of how.. Capacious everything would be in this proposed idea of a universe

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:17 PM

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If that were the case then fiction would be a rather boring genre.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:17 PM

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But when you try being very, very detailed about it all - especially when it comes to the proclivities, it won't work out. There are leeways into making it seem more like they are good, by leaving some mystery to how they manage certain tasks while simultaneously giving an idea of what that implies of them

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:17 PM

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We'd be stuck repeating the same thing over and over again because people need to inherently write what they know. That would mean people that have no experience with writing science fiction aren't capable of writing revolutionary science fiction anyway.

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By that logic anyway.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Exactly. Which is why people write in the example I just gave

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Except that's not inherently true.

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People's imaginations can prove to be the inspiration for reality from fantasy.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Then you agree with what I'm saying, then

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:20 PM

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I agree to a degree but I also think your statement is too narrow of a scope.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Well, there certainly are going to be botches in translating that idea on paper.. Literally.

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Maybe, but nothing is impossible, only improbable.

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 3:22 PM

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So I could get a date.

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Yes.

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Your odds aren't zero.

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😛

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Y'know, fighting aliens would be pretty challenging to the mind

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Or psyche, more appropriately

vague scroll Jan 24, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Not much different from fighting humans, only difference is now they don't have to consider the enemy with any degree of empathy. Us vs. Them is in full gear when it comes to fighting aliens.

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 3:56 PM

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What? It would be much harder to deal with IMO lmao

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Can't you imagine seeing your acquaintances not just get gunned down by some other rusty jarhead like you'd expect, but some 8 foot reptile that just comes out of nowhere

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Then the Jackals, drones, brutes.. Sounds scary as hell!

carmine sleet Jan 24, 2019, 4:11 PM

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When it comes to war, they try to demonise the enemy to stop people feeling empathy for them. This is much easier to do with a non-human enemy, such as the Covenant, as they aren't likely to show emotions like humans do, thus making it easier for a human to kill them psychologically since they won’t have that "This is a fellow human, why am I fighting them?" moment

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 4:14 PM

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There's also the aspect of not knowing much about the Covenant as a whole for most of the war. Captain Keyes even thinks along the lines in The Flood if it even matters if they even hit the Covenant back as hard as they get hit if the Covenant vastly outnumbers them.

carmine sleet Jan 24, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Indeed

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:25 PM

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to even effectively deal with the covenant humanity had to basically depose the entirety of their highest political caste and after that there were still issues with jul and the brutes

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it's kind of a shallow way to do it in terms of writing but that's just a consequence of halo being a space power fantasy where arbiter and chief each kill a prophet because they're the big heroes who gotta do that

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:28 PM

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standard warfare tactics, though

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brutes barely count as effective leaders typically

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:28 PM

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and resulted in some silly stuff like the entire San'Shyuum race just running away somewhere

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Is it really that silly? The Elites and humans wanted them dead, and their home, High Charity, was gone. It'd make sense for them to flee. They're basically war criminals to over half the galaxy.

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:29 PM

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it's more silly that no one could find them but hey space is big i guess

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:29 PM

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the Sangheili mostly broke off into their own faction so without the presence of high prophets (High Charity getting infected probably wiped most of them out) and the three hierarchs were dead

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:29 PM

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didn't stop anyone from finding the alpha shard though

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:30 PM

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it's also canonical that the Sangheili were the warrior class, not the San Shuyuum

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 4:30 PM

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@carmine sleet good points. Morally speaking it would be much easier to understand, yeah

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:30 PM

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if the Sangheili had equal mastery of technology there is no reason they couldn't wipe out the physically frail prophets with ease

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also I need to be consistent with human terms and species names

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rip

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:31 PM

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the san'shyuum consolidated pretty much all of the covenant political power so it's kinda silly that killing 3 of them would completely destabilize the covenant and win the war when they still had the brutes etc

versed helm Jan 24, 2019, 4:31 PM

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But just the sheer psychological challenges one would face knowing a house was just raided by a group of alien savages sounds terrifying

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:31 PM

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they did lose high charity though

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:31 PM

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High Charity was shown to have the entire high council

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and probably thousands of other San Shuyuum on board too

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 4:32 PM

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And within the San'Shyuum, Truth went to great lengths during the war to consolidate even more power to himself.

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:32 PM

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high charity was also shown to be being evacuated as soon as the flood attacked

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presumably the san'shyuum would be the priority in that situation

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:32 PM

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The flood is also notorious for making it into ships they otherwise shouldn't be

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when did they show evacuation?

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:33 PM

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the flood is notorious for for being coarse, irritating, and
getting everywhere

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:33 PM

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10/10 meming sir

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 4:33 PM

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The Brutes and San'Shyuum were also occupied with fighting the Elites when the Flood attacked happened. Even shifting focus to do that exclusively resulted in reduced effectiveness in evacuation than if they hadn't been occupied.

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:33 PM

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we see truth leaving high charity i doubt him and a handful of brutes were the only ones to evacuate

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:34 PM

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the flood attack was already in full force

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 4:34 PM

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We don't really see any evidence to the contrary, though. There isn't anyone else on there in Uprising.

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:35 PM

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tbh if the majority of san'shyuum didn't evacuate high charity i don't think them fleeing would be that big of a plot point if even addressed at all

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assuming the majority were even on high charity during wartime

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 4:35 PM

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They would be. That's effectively their homeworld.

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:36 PM

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they were orbiting the I05 to celebrate its activation

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then out of nowhere, Chief is on High Charity and Amber Clad infested the place with flood

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(tbh I almost typed Hive there, thanks I guess Destiny)

remote spruce Jan 24, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Prophets bailing makes sense
Engineers not so much

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:37 PM

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yeah i think the moment greenboi started rampaging and ship went boom the san'shyuum probably would've bolted

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there was also a massive covvie fleet hanging around high charity at the time

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:38 PM

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its all speculation

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but it was also revealed to the covenant that the rings were a lie, I thought

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which for a religious cult like the Covenant, that would be enough to disband

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:39 PM

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arby tells tartarus and tartarus doesn't really believe him

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so idk

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Tartarus was also a fanatic

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:39 PM

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depends how brainwashed they are i guess

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 4:39 PM

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The Covenant as a whole knows that the Great Journey as explained to them by the Prophets was a lie, but a lot still believe in the Forerunners' divinity.

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Some still believe in some version of the Great Journey, as shown with Axl in Nightfall.

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:40 PM

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yeah that's the whole crux of jul's covenant

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:40 PM

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but that faith in the prophets being dismantled so effectively would destroy any trust the remaining factions had in them

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:40 PM

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they worshipped the didact as a god

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the covenant was never particularly stable to begin with

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we find out about that when thel becomes the arbiter

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the grunts almost overthrew the covenant once

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 4:42 PM

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They didn't almost overthrow it. They put up a stronger fight than it was thought they could give.

quiet dock Jan 24, 2019, 4:42 PM

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which is dang impressive in its own right

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:44 PM

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eh, it's implied in everything we know about the grunt rebellion that an arbiter was necessary to end the conflict

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even the H2A terminal

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it takes a lot of pressure for the covenant to do that, presumably

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and the grunts weren't even properly armed at the time

last anchor Jan 24, 2019, 4:47 PM

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They deployed mass body storm tactics.

sullen kernel Jan 24, 2019, 4:50 PM

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they were probably gonna attempt to wipe out the jackals if given free rein for too long, and likewise the jackals probably would've done the same to them if they could

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it took glassing their homeworld to put an end to it

fair hazel Jan 24, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Hey I like versus

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I really like the fall of high charity events.

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It’s like. A monumental day at high charity. The great journey would soon start. Then civil war commence, skirmishes here and there then escalation. Then what is it? Word that the demon is in high charity ? On that day and on this civil war? And what? The flood just appears? There is so much infighting the demon is there and the flood is taking over everything

severe elbow Jan 24, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I really liked the added context to the fall of High Charity that Shadow of Intent gave us in terms of the Prelates' involvement.

obsidian thistle Jan 24, 2019, 8:50 PM

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I love how Prelates were first introduced in a Game manual. But they were overlooked.

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More specifically for the map Gemini on High Charity in which that was a important place for the Senior Prelates.

last anchor Jan 24, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I remember no one could figure out what that meant

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Guess we know now

sullen dirge Jan 24, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Guys whats this thing about meddlers?

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Or some unknown crashed ship I've never heard of them before.

obsidian thistle Jan 24, 2019, 11:56 PM

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👀 They are uber obscure Halo lore. That unless you paid attention into the details in the obscure stuff you'd miss them.

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They are one of my fav areas of Halo lore 😄

sullen dirge Jan 25, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Ooohhh

fair hazel Jan 25, 2019, 12:39 AM

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@obsidian thistle

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where in fleet battles did the covenant AI seeker appear in?

keen ravine Jan 25, 2019, 1:15 AM

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@sullen dirge you mean the Unknown ship that crashed on 343's Installation?

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Who do u guys think the Meddlers are?

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May be precursors

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Not advanced enough. Its probably a Covenant linked species

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:28 AM

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U never know

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Also
What do u mean not advanced enough

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They were able to hack a halo ring

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They teleported into a food containment facility on lock down

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They even pissed off the monitor of the halo ring in halo CE

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Flood

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Not food

unique rune Jan 25, 2019, 1:32 AM

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Who did what now?

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Hacked into a Halo ring?

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:32 AM

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Yeah Im lost too

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:32 AM

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Meddlers

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I think

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I watched hidden video on it a while ago

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A bit fuzzy

unique rune Jan 25, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Well, uh, I'm not an expert on the subject but I can say that it sounds wrong.

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:34 AM

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One sec

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They got into a flood containment facility on lockdown

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:36 AM

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So did the Covenant on 04.

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So did the UNSC with a little lockbreaker thing

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The Precursors were, quite literally, godlike

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:37 AM

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They did it with transportation tech that wasn’t even suppose to be working

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Which containment facility are you talking about. The only breakins we know of are on 04 by the Covenant and whatever caused 05s

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Is that the one your talking about?

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Is hidden on the server

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On the map backwash

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Backwash? Oh yeah that one, the one Xperia covered

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We dont know if they teleported in

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:40 AM

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What about the other one completely covered in flood

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There was another map completely covered in flood

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Cold Storage. Theoretically thats the basement of Backwash

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Yes
And how could they get in if it’s covered in flood?!!!

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:43 AM

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It wasnt originally.

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They got in. Let the Flood out. Flood ate them. Started the outbreak on 05. Peneitent Tangent couldnt control it before a Gravemind formed

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:43 AM

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And yes I know they could have used a big laser

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Oh

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Precursors could still be meddling with the halo universe though

modest marsh Jan 25, 2019, 1:47 AM

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It’s unlikely

versed helm Jan 25, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Yeet

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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One could have broken out of that old reach map

versed helm Jan 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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some poor dum as kids I know who want to look cool with AirPods but they can’t afford them, so them cut off the cord and pretend it’s a real AirPod

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Possibly

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Lol

versed helm Jan 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Mr

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smiles

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is back

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he is coming

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Who dat

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Composer material

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Oh

versed helm Jan 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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He will cut you

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Nah man

versed helm Jan 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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With an energy sword

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jk a kitchen knife

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plunge it

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ing

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slowly

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:50 AM

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I survived it once and I can do it again

versed helm Jan 25, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Yeet on them haters

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Yeet

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Yeet

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yeet

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:50 AM

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@obsidian thistle is on here?!

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Oh yeah, bunch of people are.
Xperia, Halo Canon

versed helm Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Yeet

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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I mean, it is the Halo server

modest marsh Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Ban

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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To late

boreal bane Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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!mute @versed helm 60m

rocky totemBOT Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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dynoSuccess Lectro#1796 was muted

boreal bane Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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That's enough

obsidian thistle Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Beat me to it

modest marsh Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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misterchief

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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RIP @versed helm

obsidian thistle Jan 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Regardless I was pinged. What be the lore query.

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Chief wants to know if the Medlers could be Precursors

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Maybe possible

obsidian thistle Jan 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Uncertain. Best not assume they all be the same aliens.

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:53 AM

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True

modest marsh Jan 25, 2019, 1:53 AM

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What purpose would that serve

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Them being precursors

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Would be cool to see the precursors in infinite though

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Maybe a boss fight?

modest marsh Jan 25, 2019, 1:54 AM

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I don’t think there’s a substantive place for them in this storyline

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:54 AM

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wink wink nudge nudge

modest marsh Jan 25, 2019, 1:54 AM

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The flood are already representative of the precursors as aggressors

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Now

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Atleast mendicant should be in it

modest marsh Jan 25, 2019, 1:55 AM

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It would be cool to fight a flood form in the shape of the primordial

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But whether or not that would happen isn’t known

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Again

modest marsh Jan 25, 2019, 1:55 AM

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And for that matter unlikely

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Wink wink nudge nudge 343

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OH

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MY

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GOD

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May have found halo infinite plot

quiet crow Jan 25, 2019, 1:58 AM

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LIES

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Nope

quiet crow Jan 25, 2019, 1:59 AM

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So says a FOTUS member

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 1:59 AM

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After war o. Ark

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Zeta halo was put on standby mode

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One of the conscept arts of halo infinite was a large structure like the controll center

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What if I go to zeta halo

quiet crow Jan 25, 2019, 2:00 AM

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hhmmm. oki

hoary hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 2:01 AM

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And deactivate it
Before Cortana does it and activates halo ring

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Infinite goes to rebalance planet to examine a forerunner artifact that acts a s a cloaking device that is protecting them from Cortana

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Infinite uses that tech for there own cloaking device

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Rebel planet
Sry

keen ravine Jan 25, 2019, 2:11 AM

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How to Win Halo

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Be Literally any species besides the Prophets

clever fable Jan 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Grunts are the true inheritors of this galaxy

tulip folio Jan 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Yay I can’t post my stuff in here

clever fable Jan 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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It didn't really belong here all that much, given the format. If you want, you could make info-cards out of them in 'shop, and post the entire collection of finished results in the content channel at some point. It'd be worthwhile, fun cause for the effort put in.

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Could be similar to the info-cards that shipped with H5.

keen ravine Jan 25, 2019, 3:30 AM

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@clever fable Tru Tru

fading timber Jan 25, 2019, 9:34 AM

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👀

boreal bane Jan 25, 2019, 9:38 AM

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👀

lone canopy Jan 25, 2019, 12:16 PM

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So how about those spartan twos

safe siren Jan 25, 2019, 2:14 PM

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What is the function of the beam emitters on the surface of Installation 04 and 07?
something related to the dissipation of excess energy, perhaps?

obsidian thistle Jan 25, 2019, 2:21 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Beam_emitter#Beam_towers

Beam emitter

A beam emitter is a Forerunner device or structure that, as the name implies, emits beams of energy. Though applied for many purposes, they are generally used to transport enormous amounts of energy from one location to another, serving as sophisticated power conduits. The be...

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I assume navigation

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And data and so on

safe siren Jan 25, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Thanks

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I missed that page somehow

last anchor Jan 25, 2019, 7:05 PM

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The ones on Requiem were used for teleportation, yeah.

last anchor Jan 26, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Also you know what would be cool?
Spartans as mobile artillery. Like, you could theoretically strap an 88mm mortar to the back of an armored Spartan and boom; mobile artillery peice

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Im not sure what the POINT would be but its something you could do

wispy bough Jan 26, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Well now I want a piece of lore about it.

last anchor Jan 26, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Ive been thinkin about it since I read the Atlas armor's description.
Spartan equivilent of a Main Battle Tank...

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Why stop there? MJLONIR seems entirely modular and as far as I can tell the need for mobile artillery and tank-caliber guns has not slackened in the 26th century. The Wraith exists for a reason, so does the Kodiac. Though we have yet ot see it I have no doubt the UNSC has mortar teams.

versed helm Jan 26, 2019, 8:15 AM

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We should have a permutation that is essentially the superior successor to the HRUNTING exoskeleton.

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But to be honest, the only part I really like about the ATLAS armour is the back armour/thruster kit

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Actually, I also like the clavicle segments and the rear of the greaves

versed helm Jan 26, 2019, 2:46 PM

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So the Forerunners have an indefinite lifespan,but only if they have regular access to their armor...so here is the question,what is the lifespan of a typical Forerunner that doesn't have regular access to their armor

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Anyone?

lyric coral Jan 26, 2019, 4:32 PM

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I dunno, couple of minutes

keen ravine Jan 26, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Kek

spiral lily Jan 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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so what’s this about locke

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not being in halo anymore?

gilded mason Jan 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Where have you heard that?

spiral lily Jan 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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#485883236430512168

gilded mason Jan 26, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Pretty sure they just mean "Out of the protagonist seat".

spiral lily Jan 26, 2019, 6:34 PM

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oh tru

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I prefer him gone tbhhhh imo

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out of protagonist position I mean

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weird having a human in that role

gilded mason Jan 26, 2019, 6:35 PM

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It's a good start, but I won't be satisfied until all the Spartans are gone. 😉

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weird having a human in that role
Yes, I'd rather more perspectives from outside a human viewpoint.

vague scroll Jan 26, 2019, 7:02 PM

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I should probably delete my comment, seems to be causing confusion.

last anchor Jan 26, 2019, 7:42 PM

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The Atlas greaves have blades on them I think right? They look like blades to me anyway

modest marsh Jan 26, 2019, 7:44 PM

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By greaves do you mean the wrist guards?

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Cuz greaves are the shins

versed helm Jan 26, 2019, 10:03 PM

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No I mean the shins, yeah. They look good, save for the lack of distinct "dots" that MJOLNIR armour specifically should have.

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@modest marsh

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Well its got blades somewhere and thats cool

strong sage Jan 27, 2019, 10:39 AM

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Guys between locke and john who has the higher rank?

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 10:44 AM

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I'm fairly sure locke outranks him, petty officer isn't an incredibly high rank @strong sage

strong sage Jan 27, 2019, 10:47 AM

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Ahhh but uhhh is there a reason why locke calles him sir thou in some cutscenes since he outranks john

carmine sleet Jan 27, 2019, 10:49 AM

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Respect. If I was speaking with someone who'd save the galaxy, even if I outranked them, I'd be showing them allot of respect

obsidian thistle Jan 27, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Hmmm I need to check the rank charts and so on again

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"Spartan" is particularly an oddity

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Yeah, like Locke said "you're not the only one who is here because of him"

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Good thing they elaborated on that but I think he deeply respects chief

tranquil moss Jan 27, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Spartans usually take over command from even the highest because of their superhero like status

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Unless they are III's

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In that case it's a suicide rush

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:54 AM

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Or Romeo

tranquil moss Jan 27, 2019, 10:54 AM

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Lmao true

strong sage Jan 27, 2019, 10:54 AM

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Ahhhhh thanks for the clarification guys

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 10:54 AM

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No problem

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:54 AM

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Does Hood call John "son" often?

strong sage Jan 27, 2019, 10:55 AM

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But yeah since im really confused with the ranks thou , all I remembered was that Blue team is under Navy so that means they are still using Navy rank but not sure on the spartan branch

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@versed helm i think so gaha

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 10:55 AM

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I don't think IV's have a rank

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:55 AM

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They do

strong sage Jan 27, 2019, 10:55 AM

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So IV are basically equal

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:55 AM

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No

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Not really

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There are some certain ranks they can achieve

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The Spartan Field Manual gives some clarity to it

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Yeah but for the most part they don't really follow a conventional ranking system

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:56 AM

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True

strong sage Jan 27, 2019, 10:56 AM

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True that thanks for the info again lads

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Nothing like the Marine Corps

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Welcome

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 10:57 AM

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Also chief is pretty old so he might also be called sir out of seniority

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Like without a doubt if he was in official military he would be a higher rank, chief has been awarded every UNSC medal ever apart from prisoner of war

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Jeez, you really gonna do him like that?

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 10:59 AM

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It's true though

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If someone is significantly older than you you call them sir out of respect

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Savage. He barely even cuts middle-age in his career

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He's like 45 lmao

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:00 AM

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And locke is early 30s I imagine

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:01 AM

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Well I sure as hell don't go around treating 35 year olds like they need help to cross the road like that

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:03 AM

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Again not the point, he says it out of respect due to his level of experience and stuff

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You tend to call teachers or authority by sir even if they might be a couple years older than you

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Yeah the fact that's he's essentially a god among men in the military may give him a little street cred

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:06 AM

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I honestly wonder what halo 5's actual story was

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Idk

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Considering all the material we got before the game came out it paints a vastly different picture and that level of disconnect indicates that somewhere along the lines something changed

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Warden condone's all of Cortana's principles, Warden begins to disagree with her, Warden starts to turncoat into his own independence, Warden fails, then claims to her that he "failed" her...

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..???????

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:08 AM

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What about when chief goes AWOL, that's the best part

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Infinity comms: "come back to infinity immediately"
Chief: "Negative, I don't like it"

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:10 AM

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I think the whole idea that they could just randomly muster some Spartan IV to match John was a stupid idea in the first place, which in turn would make John being hunted inevitably a bad strategy

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:10 AM

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Yeah

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Wasn't a way around it. Unless it was some really dark narrative how Blue Team get brainwashed into a conviction to turn on him

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But I doubt Halo would have gone that route

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:12 AM

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I think what could have worked significantly better is if you played as locke for the first half of the campaign, hear all these bad things about chief and you begin to question if he is still Good, then you play as chief in the second half and realise what actually happened

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It's a rough concept but with some polishing it could have worked

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:12 AM

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No hunting? Just like some espionage scenario?

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Make locke initially hunt down the chief but then he pieces what happened together and then helps the chief

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Just an idea I came up with

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:13 AM

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That's exactly what happened lol

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:13 AM

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But changing the order would make it better

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Well, not exactly. But in essence

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:14 AM

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We knew chief was in the right from the beginning so there was no point

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:14 AM

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I would have just kept it as a Chief story. The Locke stuff was just cumbersome fluff material IMO

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Play around with him seeing the vision of cortana and everyone thinking he's going insane

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:15 AM

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I would have written it completely differently

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:15 AM

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There's many ways it could have been done but it's happened, I think infinite's heading down a better direction based off the reveal

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 11:16 AM

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The focused characters would have been John, Lasky, The Warden Eternal and maybe 343 guilty spark as a spitball

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I would have made Warden very mischievous and deceptive, and that he was merely playing around with John's mind to bring him to the Warden

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Venting emotions and such. Laskey gets worried for him, and maybe the hunting could have been conducted by Laskey coercing Blue Team to bring him back

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That would be a goldmine for character conflict

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That would challenge John's morality in forcing him to decide what his true desires are, and how he's really yearning for his own self over some skewed altruism to serve the UNSC

royal spear Jan 27, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Sounds good

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Lol thanks man

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I love being able to find responses here

warped fiber Jan 27, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Halo 5's campaign wasn't the greatest. But at least it wasn't the Last Jedi bad

hoary hemlock Jan 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Lol

cloud sand Jan 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Truth

hoary hemlock Jan 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Yes

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Anyone else remember when the next Halo book comes out? Is it next mont?

gilded mason Jan 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Yep.

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Excellent

severe elbow Jan 27, 2019, 6:57 PM

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@hoary hemlock Please don't try to bypass the word filter.

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 6:59 PM

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hold up

obsidian thistle Jan 27, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Whats up?

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:00 PM

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its censored that much, i mean ok but y tho

modest marsh Jan 27, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Up on the dpad

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There’s children here

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Halo is practically an all ages brand at this point

gilded mason Jan 27, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Aren't Halo games T and up?

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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sadly

modest marsh Jan 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Megablox

obsidian thistle Jan 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Following the rules aint hard anyway. :)

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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i know

modest marsh Jan 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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That’s not sad, it’s just a reality

obsidian thistle Jan 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Anyway back to lore plz.

modest marsh Jan 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Halo lore isn’t any less dark cuz they be appealing to the kids

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Battle Born proves that

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~~I recognize some of those emblems.~~

hoary hemlock Jan 27, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Dang it

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Quick question that I can’t seem to find an answer for

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Can you drown the flood?

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I dont think they breath, so most likely no

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They can survive in space cant they?

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Yes they can

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so no they cant be suffercated by any means

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:(

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Imagine being in an underwater dome city

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And you just see these things start to crawl all over the glass

obsidian thistle Jan 27, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Remember the Gravemind plucked John from underwater in Halo 2

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Well those were his tendrals technically but yes

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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How long can Spartans breathe in space/water

obsidian thistle Jan 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Without armor?

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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With armor dummy

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helmet

obsidian thistle Jan 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Ah that probably depends... hmmm

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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MLJONIRs oxygen supplys tend to be modular and expandable depending ont he requires operation

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Cuz green boi was just floating in space for awhile and didn’t seem to have an issue post halo 4

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I think baseline they said it was just under 2 hours?

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They can probably increase it through scrubbers and simple Spartan biology. IVs can survive on methane for a few hours

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And IVs can survive outside in space for 5 minutes

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:14 PM

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how did mc survive then when the forward unto dawn was split

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wouldnt the oxygen have been gone after 4 years

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 7:15 PM

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He was in cryo

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 7:15 PM

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fair enough

obsidian thistle Jan 27, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Cryo and Cortana maintaining it.

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One can assume even with the mimimal ageing cryo allows oxygen is supplied to the pods

grizzled marsh Jan 27, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Doesn't the computer right outside the cryo bay in Dawn mention that life support is barely functioning?

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Maybe I'm not remembering things correctly.

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Probably. Im honestly surprised the Dawn held together for as long as it did considering.

unique rune Jan 27, 2019, 7:26 PM

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It did say life support was failing, IIRC.
Not surprising coming from half of a ship.

vivid dust Jan 27, 2019, 7:28 PM

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I kinda wish the first mission had us board a Covenant ship instead of fighting in a redesigned Dawn

last anchor Jan 27, 2019, 7:39 PM

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I wouldnt be against that really

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:29 PM

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I wonder,whatever became of the ancient human fleet that bombed the wolf-faced planet?

gilded mason Jan 27, 2019, 10:30 PM

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I imagine they're dead.

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Or is it possible that they might've escaped?

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Because i wonder if there's a group of ancient humans that somehow survived the Human-Forerunner wars

clear wren Jan 27, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Wouldn't they die of age?

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Well they had some pretty advanced tech,so it might be possible that they have some form of cryo pods

clear wren Jan 27, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Maybe but we're talking about a hundred thousand years.

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:44 PM

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True

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Or there are those time locks

clear wren Jan 27, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Has it been said anywhere about anicent humanity after the war? Like surviors.

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Well i'm not sure what became of the fleet that bombed the wolf-faced planet,but other than that.nothing else

clear wren Jan 27, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I see. Well... i think they're dead.

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Probably,the Forerunners were through in wiping out all traces of ancient humanity,even though the ruins on Heian still exist

clear wren Jan 27, 2019, 10:52 PM

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It's possible they left a few traces here and there but yeah, poor ancient humanity.

versed helm Jan 27, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Speaking of Heian,i would to know more about that planet

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Besides the ruins of course,like what else was that planet used for,was it a backwater colony world or was it used for something else

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Like how Forthencho mentioned how he found human ruins on numerous planets,what if one of those worlds was Heian

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Hot take, but I kinda wish that Chief never woke up

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Because I always thought him entering the cryo pod in the first place was because, now that "peace" had been achieved, he could no longer exist in the world, what with him being an instrument of war

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 3:35 AM

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2 things wrong with taht

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requiem, he was drifting towards it.

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things arent going to be all pieceful just because the covenant was defeated

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:36 AM

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That, and I prefer having different protags every time. Because not only are their ultimate fates left up in the air until the game's ending, but because theres no need for NPCs to kiss the ground the player walks on, lest they upset certain fans

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Like, people hated palmer from minute one.

gilded mason Jan 28, 2019, 3:37 AM

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I prefer having different protags every time
theres no need for NPCs to kiss the ground the player walks on
👌

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:37 AM

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Go on any video about Halo 4's ending, and you'll see a flood of comments that read like "Yeah, TALL enough for ya?"

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Because apparently that one line really upset them

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 3:38 AM

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ridiculous

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:40 AM

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For real though, the Chief that we play as in CE is not the same one in 2 and 3. Like, CE Chief gets yelled at by Cortana like she's his mum because he got tricked into almost wiping out the galaxy

gilded mason Jan 28, 2019, 3:40 AM

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And he had more character in CE.

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:41 AM

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There was also that scene where Chief gets teleported upside down, and falls on his face in a comedic fashion

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That would never fly in Halo 2 or 3

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 3:42 AM

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makes me think

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what if JOhn had replied, to the taller comment

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"It was tight in the cryochamber"

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or something like that

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and palmer then said "good to have you back sir"

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how different things would have been

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:44 AM

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I still think 343 messed up Halo 4's ending royally by having Chief's "face reveal" by this super zoomed in shot of his eyes. Which usually in cinema symbolizes determination. As opposed to having Chief looking through the glass at earth, with us only getting a brief look at his face from the reflection. Implying that he's not looking at earth, but himself.

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 3:44 AM

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nah

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Good talk

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 3:46 AM

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thanks

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I want to see his face

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ion game

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:46 AM

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I mean, isnt Chief supposed to be questioning his life, as evident by dialogue from Cortana and Lasky?

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"Soldiers arent machines"

gilded mason Jan 28, 2019, 3:47 AM

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I agree with ya.

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:47 AM

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"Which one of us are more machine?"

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 3:47 AM

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and at the end

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you see ap erson

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Stuff like that implies that Chief is supposed to be in self-reflection by the end

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But a tight shot of his eyes, and furrowed brow, implies determination. Not melancholy.

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 3:48 AM

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to you perhaps

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but i never took it that way

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and a lot of people took it as in

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look at how tired he looks

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I mean, thats just how cinematography works

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 3:49 AM

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art is interpreted differnetly by different people

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you interpreted it as determination

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others as, he's human, others as, he's tired

orchid kettle Jan 28, 2019, 3:50 AM

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I mean, its a common practice that certain angles and camera positions serve as visual shorthand for the "idea" of a scene

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A classic being that height denotes power hierarchy

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Which is probably why marines in CE are smaller than you. Because they are literally beneath you, gameplay wise

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Or why Elites, at least from the player's perspective, appear to be roughly the same height.

modest marsh Jan 28, 2019, 4:07 AM

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The Elites are generally larger than the player by a non insignificant amount

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Also, of course Chief looks determined

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He was emboldened by the events of Halo 4 to fight harder

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That’s why following the events of the game he was going through missions like a wildfire

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Chief has never pushed himself harder than he has now, which is why 5 played up the “deteriorating psyche” angle

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 5:01 AM

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@fair hazel I don't dislike her for that comment I dislike her because he's as flat as 10 day old coke left out in the sun

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 5:03 AM

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what?!

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 5:07 AM

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She's so flat they forgot to add the baking soda

fair hazel Jan 28, 2019, 5:18 AM

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i have no idea what that is supposed to mean

clear wren Jan 28, 2019, 5:19 AM

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I'm guessing he's talking about the size of her breasts.

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I'm not 100% certain though.

wispy bough Jan 28, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Or hes talking about how flat she is as a character.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Rhys knows what's up

charred flower Jan 28, 2019, 7:26 AM

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😐

clear wren Jan 28, 2019, 7:38 AM

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shrugs I guess i'm just dirty minded. Which i'll agree with.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Anyone wanna talk about Heian?

wispy bough Jan 28, 2019, 8:13 AM

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@clear wren I kinda hoped my dirty mind would go away when I got older. 22 years and still a child about it.

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😛

clear wren Jan 28, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Heh, i actually don't really mind being dirty minded. It has it's benefits.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 8:19 AM

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What was the significance of Heian?

charred flower Jan 28, 2019, 8:21 AM

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🤔

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what is that? im watching a movie so idk

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 8:22 AM

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That planet from the Halo Legends short The Babysitter

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 9:36 AM

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I imagine humans were just bigger? Heian looks alot like Edo-Japan, scaled larger.

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Would be a beautiful play-space for forge in my honest opinion.

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Janjur Qom would be cool to see also. (San'Shyuum homeworld)

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Actually I just realized the Janjur Qom was destroyed by a supernova /:

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That*

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 9:47 AM

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The Prophets say it was destroyed. But tbh they are known liers so what are we to believe

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They hid its location after all

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So by all means it "could" still be around

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 9:50 AM

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@obsidian thistle good manipulators blend the truth with lies so you cannot make those assumptions

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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Fair enough.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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I imagine that it's current form would be governed by the San Shyuum as of the 26th century, but that's just my headcanon

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Fighting San'Shyuum in peak condition without grav-chairs would be neato.

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More enemy variety.

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Fighting Prelates would be intresting

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And would totally be a twist that normal fans would never expect

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Like Kig Yar factions?

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Yes yes and yes.

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I read that wrong xD

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I agree though, especially a scenario consisting of working with Rtas and eliminating San'Shyuum forces.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Seeing your enemy actually dodge the bullets would be neat

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And if the game has a projectile system, a neat attention to detail would be how you can actually see them avoid the shot as it travels

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Max Payne.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Remind me,how dangerous are the Prelates?

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 10:56 AM

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They're like San'Shyuum spartans essentially?

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I don't personally know myself.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 10:56 AM

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But still,it would awesome to fight a Prelate

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 10:57 AM

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I agree!

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 10:57 AM

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Remind me,don't all the San'Shyuum in the Covenant have all sorts of genetic problems?

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 10:58 AM

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In the Covenant, yes.

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All these years being lazy.

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And being restricted on breeding cycles.

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It's no wonder they don't seem to be a threat.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 11:00 AM

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I'm wondering,they had access to all the technology that the Covenant have,so why didn't they just use it to cure all of those genetic diseases?

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 11:26 AM

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@versed helm In summary: Can kill a squad of elite minors before they can react, deflect hypersonic carbine rounds with their gauntlet shields, are a match for Rtas Vadum in CQC

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 11:51 AM

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There reliance on technology made them weak physically, but equipment wise they are still superior.

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Unless you're Chief. Because his luck is straight plot armor.

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:17 PM

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That planet?

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Sorry I didn't realise there were messages below what I was reading

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:19 PM

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Ah you're in the Halo Nation discord SpartanV.

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:19 PM

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Yeah

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Cool. Just recognised the username and caught on fast :)

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:21 PM

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If they were able to find ancient human armour there, I wonder how much they know about ancient humanity

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We need to bring back the Lord of admirals

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Heh well

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About that

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Humans have a Ancient humanity ship

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They found it

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Tis the biggest reveal in Halo Warfleet and it went under everyones noses.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Why did the Halo Reach epilogue jump to 2589?

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Uncertain. Probably just a random year Bungie picked

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:32 PM

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@obsidian thistle I know right! Maybe the writers overlooked it or the lore was poorly organised at the time

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Yeah,but it does beg the question..what happened between 2552 and 2589,if the events of Halo 4 and 5 never happened

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Um Halo 4 and 5 still happened

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Nothing was retconned

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:33 PM

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@versed helm war and technological advancement, as usual

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I mean like a what if kind of thing

clever fable Jan 28, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Not sure if the ship went under everyone's nose, though I don't doubt that the larger portion of the fanbase continues to ignore the extended universe stuff as usual. It's more that all we really got from that reveal was that they tried testing out some of its systems, and that it's basically being held in reserve for future plot lines at this point. Hard to discuss it when there's not much material for it. Unless we're talking pure story-crafting I guess.

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:36 PM

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@obsidian thistle that's why I don't bother buying the books. Too many errors and they don't keep up with the lore properly

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:36 PM

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Um... I believe you misunderstood me

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:S

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:37 PM

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You mean that ancient human warship that ONI found?

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Yes

clever fable Jan 28, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Would like to see the Hellcat armor make a more official appearance.

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Hasn't it?

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Yeah,the lore behind that armor is pretty interesting

clever fable Jan 28, 2019, 1:37 PM

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By 'more official

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'

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I mean to say that I'd like to see it in a short story, or novel.

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:37 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/HELLCAT-class_Mjolnir

HELLCAT-class Mjolnir

HELLCAT-class Mjolnir is a variant of the MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor [GEN2].

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That may help some folks here.

clever fable Jan 28, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Yeah, thanks.

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:39 PM

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I prefer the lore of Shinobi and Buccaneer

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Mystery armor that was found.

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:40 PM

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I hope the UNSC can become as advanced as ancient humanity or even more

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:41 PM

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What is AZURE MOON anyways?

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:41 PM

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It's sad the forerunners devolved us and we haven't been able to get back to how we were

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https://www.halopedia.org/Site_Yankee-002-G3#

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An abandoned ancient human ship

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Yep

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Hello humans

hexed knoll Jan 28, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Hello.

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Since Prefect and Hellcat are basically reverse engineered ancient tech, wouldn't that make the unsc tier 1 in some ways?

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:45 PM

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No

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Wut r u guys talking about?

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 1:46 PM

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Halo Lore.

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:46 PM

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Cool

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Ancient technology

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Cool

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Forerunners?

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:47 PM

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It makes you wonder if humans really were more advanced than we are today in the past

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:49 PM

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What if halo infinite released today?

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:49 PM

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In real life

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@versed helm that would be great

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:49 PM

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I miss the splitscreen

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:50 PM

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@versed helm it's coming back

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In infinite

versed helm Jan 28, 2019, 1:52 PM

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So precursor is a flood?

broken mango Jan 28, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Flood is a form of precursor

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Even though the precursors never originally intended to turn into the flood, they accepted this form as a means of revenge against the forerunners for driving them to near extinction

royal spear Jan 28, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Yeah their regeneration process got corrupted or something I believe

subtle depot Jan 28, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Do the flood have any ability to grow off sunlight or farm in some way for long term sustenance. They must have some form of infrastructure

plain glacier Jan 28, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I don’t think that the flood would be able to grow off sunlight but plants however are still biomass so that may be possible

last anchor Jan 28, 2019, 4:53 PM

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If there's any biomass avalible, the Flood can and will consume it. They just prefer thinking life because they consume intelligence as well

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And sentient, mobile forms are the most useful for killing other things

vague scroll Jan 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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On the note of IRL rebuilding of advanced human society, its a shoddy sci fi trope at best. Human civilization is roughly 12,000 years old. There aren't any discrepencies in the fossil record that would point to such a cataclism near that time frame though there are a few into the 50-100,000 years but those have generally all been accounted for.

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Ice age. Supervolcano.

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At least one near pass by a dwarf star.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholz's_Star

last anchor Jan 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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I think the Forerunners removed our previous fossil record of our evolution, or humanity did it ourselves.

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When they devolved us they stripped EVERYTHING, including everything we had built on Earth.

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I THINK

vague scroll Jan 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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In halo I remember reading that there was some evidence of a near-extinction event in the 100,000 years zone.

last anchor Jan 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Thats the Halo firing

vague scroll Jan 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Yep.

last anchor Jan 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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They mention they found that on other worlds too

vague scroll Jan 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Yep

severe elbow Jan 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Ross-Ziegler_Blip

Ross-Ziegler Blip

The Ross-Ziegler Blip was a stratigraphic event on Earth and a number of other colonized planets named for two Earth geologists who discovered it in 2332, dating back approximately 100,000 years ago during the Late Pleistocene, coinciding with the activation of the Halo Array...

vague scroll Jan 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Thats the one.

hallow oyster Jan 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Hey guys if anyone's active I've got a quick question

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What kind of armor did Will 043 wear while he was on onyx? Was it standard Mk.V or was it Mk.VI

severe elbow Jan 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Pretty sure it was modified Mark V, IIRC.

hallow oyster Jan 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Alright cool. Thanks

severe elbow Jan 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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It has been years since I've read Ghosts of Onyx, though.

hallow oyster Jan 28, 2019, 6:19 PM

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It's my favorite out of all the books I've read so far

carmine sleet Jan 28, 2019, 6:23 PM

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I thought he got Mark VI like Fred and Linda did when they made it back to Earth?

severe elbow Jan 28, 2019, 6:23 PM

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I think they incorporated Mark VI elements into their Mark V. I'm pretty sure the book says they don't get full-fledged Mark VI.

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I could be wrong, though.

carmine sleet Jan 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I'll have to dig up my copy and check

obsidian thistle Jan 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Oh

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Fred, Linda, and Will got Mark VI