Screenshot Discussion

[quasi jolt]

Discuss this screenshot here

[flint patio]

Hes defending his cap that is how it should be

And preventing you from getting cards which is a winning move

[narrow ingot]

I understand that part but the problem was that the pink was already getting 29 troops every turn, blue was getting 13 and black was suicidally attacking red the whole game who red eventually killed

But in the end of it all red was only getting the basic 5 troops bonus which was even lower then me so it would only make sense if he either attacks me and claims my bonuses or stops pink

[flint patio]

If he keeps you alive he has a ton of cards later for if he gets blocked by someone

Bonuses dont really
Matter in progressive when trades are getting bigger and one of the guys getting a bonus is getting no cards

[narrow ingot]

Hmm I hadn't thought of that before but I believe he has 3 territories next to his capital so I doubt he'll have a problem getting card bonuses

And believe me pink was destroying everyone the whole game and he won in the end as well I believe if red had tried to stop him somewhere along the game he won't have lost by then

[flint patio]

Yeah I mean I wasnt watching the game so idk hard to tell without seeing rest of board

If red could do anything or not

Your best move in my opinion is to move your stack back to cap and hope he trades cards with you

Prevent him from just killing you. You wont get a
Big enough stack to roll his cap with just those bonuses vs his card trades

[primal aspen]

The real question is why you took all the bonuses behind reds capital

If you attack 1/turn there, you shouldn't get cardblocked as long as other players are still alive back there

[narrow ingot]

Well I killed pink and blue off because they had a bigger bonus then me so they would've eventually took me down and black was only in the lowest part with 3 territories only so he didn't last long as for red well he basically blocked me out and never fought back for this part of the map

[narrow ingot]

I did try that but he refused to attack my territories

[primal aspen]

Killing them out entirely vs just weakening them so they can't take you down are very different though 😄

[narrow ingot]

The lower part of the unseen map alongside the rightmost territory was taken over by pink while blue was cooped up in the top black was fighting with red over the territory right next to him

[narrow ingot]

Well when I killed them I didn't know red was camping right outside lol

And by the time I found out it was too late

[primal aspen]

When you took either of these two territories you'd see the cap - at that point, taking more than 1 territory per attack is self destructive

[narrow ingot]

Yeah I knew that I was not doing any activity in the area of my capital and just capturing territories from the bottom and the left by the time I got to the one next to red there were only 2 territories at the top left

[primal aspen]

If you had pink or blue still in that bottom right section, could just only attack there if they make an attack (so even if they're down to 1 territory, it's multiple players that can trade with you, rather than red alone)

It also then means if red finally blocks off pink on right side of map / even if it's at their capital only, you're still trading with pink for some cards - they can explore fully if they like - which means you get a bunch of new cards while red can't keep up with pinks bonus, ensuring you at worst get 2nd

[narrow ingot]

Which didn't last long

[narrow ingot]

I'll admit I didn't think of it that way it's been around 2 weeks since I started playing and there's alot to learn still

[primal aspen]

What red did there was exactly what you should do - prevent the opponent from gaining cards - so you outpace them on troops after a few trade-ins - and means they have a lot of territories they can get cards in if needed, later on in the game - bonuses don't matter after a few trade-ins - because cards may be 100+ every 3 turns, while the bonuses may only be 30 (even with most) - so territories to get cards from is gold in progressive games, especially progressive capitals - so checking for any potential blockers like that capital is something you'd want to be doing more often too

[narrow ingot]

Yeah lesson learned next time around I'll make sure to look for blockers before going aggressive

[primal aspen]

It's a really fun mix of settings you're playing there but they are pretty advanced - combining fog, blizzards, capitals & progressive cards together all at once

In the stats button (bar chart) on left, there's also troop counts / territory counts - a little less useful in fog games but good for counting your own territories mostly

[narrow ingot]

I don't like the regular classic games I mostly go for fog, blizzards with a time control over 60+ second but yeah I basically enter any game settings so long as these are there

Progressive or not

[narrow ingot]

Oh I didn't know about that will surely check it out next time

Thanks for all the help @primal aspen and @flint patio

[primal aspen]

Can see what I mean by troop/territory counts here btw