#Screenshot Discussion

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ivory estuaryBOT
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Discuss this screenshot here

gaunt tusk
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Maybe he survived using your cards if he got up to a high amount or down to an undesireable to kill him amount

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Was it a random lobby or set req

violet plover
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Iโ€™ve played Rita Biswas before.

gaunt tusk
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I played orange

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he got 6th because he picked orange in my game

hardy orchid
dense path
hardy orchid
dense path
hardy orchid
hardy orchid
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Suiciding and then botting hoping for 2nd is a chump move

gaunt tusk
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a 200 stack and you're first one out?

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yep, sounds like a masters game to me

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why did he have it in southern europe tho ๐Ÿค”

hardy orchid
# gaunt tusk yep, sounds like a masters game to me

Thats a classic classic map with the board being broken up into halves, blizz in kamchatka, alaska, and iceland, i started the game with all almost all my troops in the corner of asia, only 2 troops in all of NA, my biggest stack in japan (1 point entry with the blizz in kam. ) and to start the game i had the country guarding japan, so no one ever knew I was stacking their, always keeping like a 6 guard, was 13 when black rolled his 184 in my 110, he had 80 something left). Was trading cards with orange who held ausie... I was kind of forced into japan turtle, didnt work... Everyone was 1 stack guarding bonuses, even orange with most troops in china... except white was battling yellow out of SA over NA

hardy orchid
hardy orchid
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Im not complaining, I guess I made a bad move and got 6th, trying to learn from mistake...

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Maybe everyone knew I wzas stacking in Japan

gaunt tusk
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Orange stacks in china probably so he has some offensive agency

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its common when you've hit india and china since you cant do shit from siam anymore then

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Common for SA too ofc with an external farm stack

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But imo just invading NA is better, good continent for endgame and it prevents a player for getting a bonus, so there will be two without it

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Then if its a stalemate eventually they become too weak to survive

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But its kind of the troop leaders job or australia to do that, depends how fast aus snowballs

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dunno how big your stack was tho but it sounds to me like you were the one without a continent bonus

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So its never up to you to ''poke the bear''

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esp if hes trooperleader, which is quite possible if he has europe

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I dont like that position for Europe though personally

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He should atleast put a breaktax on ukraine

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and south europe threatens africa pretty hard

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Blizzards in iceland also mean aus cant reach NA, trough Europe, which I would assume would normally be his plan if he didnt stack on a border so theres no point to stack there

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If SA and NA are fighting thats good enough for you already

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2, potentially 3 people down if someone overextends and tries to get double bonus, plus you likely get atleast africa for free

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Hitting a 1 stack bonus does nothing, thats the same as killing off 6 troops

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(or 3-4 for the cheaper continents), kinda why passive SA players stack in Peru, who cares if their bonus gets broken they barely miss anything and it means NA/Africa and Europe are more reachable

hardy orchid
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So I didnt fully commit to the turtle. I wanted to check to see if the war started in eu or africa or they left to clean up over the war for NA and get out of japan turtle... 1st turn everyone else had like like 10 stacks in eu africa and yellow in NA and I got 13 troops huddled together in asia corner, 1st turn. It would have been risky to try to leverage that into a bonus, black maybe kill me sooner than later... I had about 150 troops to his 200 when it went down. I agree with a lot of your strategies Ive seen you chat about... and aprec. the input. Your prob right not my duty to poke the bear, he did have his stack in ukrain for long time, i was surprised it wasnt there and couldnt help but take a peak... Not my 1st rodeo, been in top 200, gm with 2 dif accounts, but you cant win them all

gaunt tusk
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Did you play with fog then I assume?

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Actually I assume not since you knew what NA and SA were doing

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Whenever I cant get a bonus safe I feel like you dont have to do anything aslong as something is happening

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Not ideal sure, but I manage to have a higher position median as nomad than aus or NA

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(But only NA as first continent, if I can get SA I try to take NA every time unless he got super lucky on spawns) you win everytime almost impossible not to, only becomes hard when africa starts perma breaking you and leaving a stack of troops in not realizing that when im done with conquering NA ill leave SA to be capped for free by him)

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Sometimes EU tries to fck me by putting half his shit in greenland, but then I just pretend I capped all of it and dont give up SA but territory bonus will grant me almost the same amount of troops as a large continent anyways so I dont care

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ppl dont start fking with me unless I try to greed and hold both SA + NA

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But if I manage to do it according to plan NA becomes like my highest winrate

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(I document it under an SA win though, since its my first bonus)

hardy orchid
gaunt tusk
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Yeah thats why I dont like playing with fog

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Blizzards are fine

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Those are fked blizzards for NA tho

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Good defense sure, 1 point to defend but you need an external stack then or perma fight SA, which I guess they ended up doing

hardy orchid
gaunt tusk
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The guy holding the bonus should always win

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unless you mean like an internal conflict with 2 players without a bonus

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In that case noone wins

hardy orchid
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Everyone had bonus but me until white and yellow went to war

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Yellow card blocked... Or both

gaunt tusk
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One of them shouldnt have one either then right

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usually whoever tries to get NA

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Like sure hes there but hes not getting +5

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If SA got cardblock he messed up big somewhere

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probably what happens to most people

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try to fight NA & keep an external at the same time

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But then you just lose the advantage

hardy orchid
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Purpke was getting bonus from Africa but prob soft guard from Egypt, we killed white in Asia

gaunt tusk
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ye thats why I dont like fog

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cant see if africa is messing with SA or not

hardy orchid
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Orange killed whire, i was trading cards with white for a while

gaunt tusk
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cant see if anyone is winning soo

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soon*

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Cant see if someone is almost getting 2 continents

hardy orchid
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All a guess, i just know white and yellow were rolling dice

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Thats why i took a peak seeing ukrain with 1 troop on it

gaunt tusk
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well atleast you saw what was going on in EU ๐Ÿ˜„

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his stack was prob in southern europe because africa kept breaking him or smt

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idk why would would wanna do that ever but..

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why you*

hardy orchid
gaunt tusk
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and even then better to just put it in northern EU

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Only play you could really make is cardblock someone that rusjed their bonus

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(almost always NA)

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wasnt possible now ofc

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since it was frozen from all but one point

hardy orchid
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I could have gone all in turtle in japan, do nothing

gaunt tusk
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I prefer siberia but thats without fog

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if they put decent amount of troops in kamcha and mongolia you have nowhere to go

hardy orchid
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No one ever saw my stack in japan but black

gaunt tusk
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Yeah thats why I said without fog

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Idk the correct play with fog, I assume waiting to see a x player died msg

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And knowing what they held

hardy orchid
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You got to watch the dice rolling and bonuses closer

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And guess when to strike

gaunt tusk
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I dont think that would be too hard,

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esp the bonus part is kind of a given

hardy orchid
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You get good at after 10 years, not this time though

gaunt tusk
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but even if SA or NA dies

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you cant reach it anyways

hardy orchid
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I have to constantly check battle log cuz I miss it looking away...

gaunt tusk
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Whoever tries to overextend and take it will likely die tho xd

hardy orchid
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Or whoever pulls a move like black, he made as big a blunder as me

gaunt tusk
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(or leave their former continent open for free

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Thats not blunder thats just being emotional and bad

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no*

hardy orchid
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Yep

gaunt tusk
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I just assume everyone is an emotional wreck that will all in at the smallest of annoyance, unless they show otherwise

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But fog makes that pretty hard

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Id assume

hardy orchid
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Played a game today dude was schizzo, good ally, then back stabbing suicide, twice

gaunt tusk
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Playing for 2nd I bet

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I dont have alliances on either

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If someone is good I can tell and its an alliance by proxy

hardy orchid
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I cleared the board and hit his 37 cap with a 68 for 2nd and came up short, after teaming with him on strongest player who held na/sa long time...

gaunt tusk
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Having an alliance with someone often just makes them mad at me for nothing

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Like following his orders like a dog

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And I know for damn sure when he says ''attack yellow'' hes telling yellow to attack me

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Sometimes they or on by accident tho

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are*

hardy orchid
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In that game 1st turn white and blue unloaded everything on me my cap...then forfeited... I still got to the strongest on the board b4 backstab.. Wr were both getting 16

gaunt tusk
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All it does is make early game easier but after that.. it only has negatives for me

hardy orchid
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With fog alliances option is stupid but I accidentally get into those games and have to play them out

gaunt tusk
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Think I played with fog maybe once or twice

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I only like blizzards tho thats it

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But getting 1st is easier without to me

hardy orchid
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I havent played a non fog game in a while, when I do Im still thinking fog stategy, so it prob hurts my play wo it

gaunt tusk
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maybe

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non fog is just straight forward

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could prob follow a flowchart and win

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Not as reliably as meta settings ofc

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but top 2 90% of the time is manageable

hardy orchid
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Im not a progressives guy, finally played awhile on it trying out petes strategies

gaunt tusk
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Got an alt for that

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But I think the name gives it away

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xd

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Or well, the alt is for any other mode than classic fixed 6 man

hardy orchid
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Thats part of why i started one too

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Got to gm on alt at level 15

gaunt tusk
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I tried to do all maps once on one

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But some maps are just really really bad

hardy orchid
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Tried out canada adv last week but i play fixed fog in advanced eu a bit

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Otherwise classic map mostly

gaunt tusk
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It got to low master but I cba'd the wait times, and people probably played the maps often and such

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Canada was dogshit

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Canada normal that is

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dont think I did advanced

hardy orchid
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I got killed by zombies 1st out in ca

gaunt tusk
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Lets see

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I put it in E tier

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Apperently

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When I started I literally just tried to mimick the board game tho

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Including TR

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Although World Domination is not a thing here

hardy orchid
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I played a ton on the board, online version has adv. the game so much, so many strategies i never thought of

gaunt tusk
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Tried to get my dad and siblings to play world dom when I visit

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But noone wants to go for it

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So we play with mission cards, which messes up everything I know

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still fun but cant really play the same way

hardy orchid
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I still got the biard game, have played a game with 4 other buddies in last 5 years was a great night, i won

gaunt tusk
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I low key let my dad win or he gets pissed for a week

hardy orchid
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I killed my father in law 1st

gaunt tusk
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He doesnt return the favour in chess but oh well

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10 draws it is

hardy orchid
gaunt tusk
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not actively atm I did 2 years back

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Chess gives me a headache after 3 games now

hardy orchid
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Whats your rank

gaunt tusk
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And im not chasing GM anymore

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I got IM 10 years ago

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but im prob worse than a decent FM

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atm

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My younger brother got FM recently, and hes def better than me atm

hardy orchid
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I see at as mental calistenics, play over 100 games a day according to stats, I dont belive it

gaunt tusk
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I need to play like.. 500 games

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before I see any improvement

hardy orchid
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1200-1300 pkayer, 3 min games usually

gaunt tusk
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Yeah my dad is a GM but

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Thats classic chess

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I'd beat him with any timer

hardy orchid
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Do you wstch anna cramling at all?

gaunt tusk
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But ''thats not how you are suppposed to play chess''

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I know who she is I dont watch her

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All I know is she invented a pretty shitty opening lol

hardy orchid
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In The days playing on a tiny kasporov electric hand held game i was dreaming of what we have now

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I try the cow, for fun now and then

gaunt tusk
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But one I got high enough on chess.com people recognize my name and realise I only play 1 opening as white and 3 as black

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once*

hardy orchid
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I was wondering if people recognize me in risk like today and thats why half tbe playets unloaded on me then forfeit

gaunt tusk
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My brother is pretty active, I dont know his username though

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And I dont want to play him ๐Ÿ˜„

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Maybe as black but no shot as white

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He knows I only play 1 system well

hardy orchid
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I waver btw which game i limk better, chess or risk, depends on how im playing probably

gaunt tusk
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Risk to chill

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Chess is 3 games max and then my head starts throbbing

hardy orchid
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Totally, fixed is better for that

gaunt tusk
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Not so much anymore because I'm not tryharding anymore for GM or anything but

hardy orchid
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In speed chess my hands get soar

gaunt tusk
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I do best in rapid 5+3

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technically blitz

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but imo anything that goes over 5 is rapid

hardy orchid
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I play lobger games and still pkay like its 3 min, need to slow down

gaunt tusk
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Bullet is a meme mode tho imo ๐Ÿ˜„

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Only super GMs actually play good lines there

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Even rapid 30 is too fast for my dad

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But if he gets time he doesnt get beaten

hardy orchid
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Ive got in rutt with using same openings, good at those

gaunt tusk
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So only thing I really do with chess is volenteer at elementary schools or lower aged highschools for teaching

hardy orchid
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Good on you

gaunt tusk
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But I dont play against them

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Thats kind of the ''couldnt get GM so he beats 10 year olds meme''

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Ofc ill play and make mistakes on purpose and stuff and check if they spot it

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So I know what they need to work on etc

hardy orchid
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I play during mirning coffee and on the john...

gaunt tusk
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I play during fixed classic stalemates

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I think it low key has helped me win games

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because I wouldnt get bored

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xd

hardy orchid
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Yep, we chatted about that b4

gaunt tusk
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Oh my bad

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That and whenever someone from some discords im in wants to play against me

hardy orchid
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10 min games for me if i do that

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Or play anotber gsme on alt

gaunt tusk
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But I also kinda cba if they dont play to improve and stuff

hardy orchid
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I cant seem to improve, not not trying, but not trying as hard as i could

gaunt tusk
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Best thing to do is to improve without playing usually

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And for non tournament play to make opening pool as small as possible

hardy orchid
gaunt tusk
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And easy as possible, yet not predictable

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E4 into E5 is a good move and all but noone is gonna be surprised and uncomfortable

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and at elos lower than yours even swapping to D4 will throw ppl off

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play the English and their brain freezes

hardy orchid
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I try to attack the kingside weak pawn only because any strategy is better than no strategy, or so Ive heard

gaunt tusk
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I play on the opposite usually but I play London as white in serious games

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But I dabbled in English and Ruy Lopez

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as black I play Caro Kann into E4 because it fits my playstyle, D4 either Dutch Defense or an easy gambit

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And random moves Nimzo indian

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or kings indian

hardy orchid
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I def need to improve at black, the cow doesnt cut it

gaunt tusk
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I wouldnt recommend Dutch Defense into D4

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it has exploitable weaknesses

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Caro-kann if you are good at reacting

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So white runs out of good moves

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(into E4 ofc)

hardy orchid
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I get it, it be nice to learn how to deal with my own attacks, in a rutt with my defense, game bogs down, becomes a time thing

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Then its not like chess

gaunt tusk
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My highest winrate by far is with caro kann tho

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or well, lowest loserate rather

hardy orchid
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Ill check it out. Im gonna a play a game of chess then go to war on the risk battlefield...

gaunt tusk
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The sicilian is more common in my elo but

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You need to learn a lot more theory

hardy orchid
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Tell me about it

gaunt tusk
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Caro-Kann is easy enough people usually do 1 of 4 things

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2 of which get countered by the same 2nd move so

hardy orchid
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If I put my mind to getting a lot better i might becone obsessed, then I really wont get any sleep

gaunt tusk
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But sticking to 1 opening response is by far the best tip to improve

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Since you will have played it 1000 times and the opponent will have played agains it at max 150 or so times

hardy orchid
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Ok caro kann looking at it now

gaunt tusk
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Theres different ones depending on what white does

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Exchange Advance and Regular

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But all are good

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esp in the 1500-2200 range

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But maybe it doesnt fit you at all, I have no idea it just clicked with me like decades ago so I stuck with it

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  • my dad plays sicilian and he called it the ''silician for beta males so its perfect for you''
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Thanks dad

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I like checking peoples profiles that ''just play on instinct'' though, its fun

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As in how often they play what and with which winrate

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Sometimes they dont realise they win twice as much with a certain opening compared to their most used xd

hardy orchid
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Im instinctually mediocre

dense path
hardy orchid
hardy orchid
gaunt tusk
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observable universe*

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10 to the power of 123 is a big number

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but im not good at math

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So just push pawns :DDDDDDDDDD

hardy orchid
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But queens pawn like 99% of the time

gaunt tusk
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Thanks for explaining the joke

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I only have 1 white opening (system)

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But it doesnt show what it is (dont play Saragossa,Mieses or Birds opening ever btw, Van Geet is shit too)

hardy orchid
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Was just trying to demonstrate I took the time to look the whole thing over and got it

hardy orchid
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And you answered the 1st question in my head as why not play the higher % openings

gaunt tusk
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Played against lowbies usually

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or to catch someone I played before off guard (but its still rare)

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Not for the feint heart

hardy orchid
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I used to play using fritz and it was pretty frustrating having my moves analyzed

gaunt tusk
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heres perma shitting on me