What’s your unpopular opinion about Risk?

[spare siren]

Europe Advanced Capitals, while enjoyable, is not RISK.

[clear cave]

In your opinion, what makes something qualify as Risk?

[jovial field]

The thing that happened to me yesterday, and I am thankful it doesn’t happen often. I was hosting a 6 player game. I launch the game, and 3 people do not ready-up, and another quits on round 1. So it’s basically a 1 v 1 with 4 bots on round 2. That isn’t Risk. Or, it isn’t good Risk.

[spare siren]

You mean…”In your unpopular opinion…” 🤣

A Yogi Berra style quip: “His opinions are so controversial. Everybody likes them.”

[small hedge]

Hmmm, lets think.

Risk 1v1 is more fun then Risk FFA.

[feral abyss]

True Random is better than Balanced Blitz

[cobalt mist]

If you can't reach gm you just suck at the game and rng is not the reason you are low ranked.

[jovial field]

It is! 🤣

[feral abyss]

It is true or it is an unpopular opinion (or both) 😄

[jovial field]

Probably both!! 🤣

[golden mantle]

Arco is a very good player

[tepid echo]

I'd rather play my best and lose, than to play poorly and still win somehow.
Ergo, I love playing this game in its purest form!

If that's not unpopular enough:

I enjoy playing the game myself more than watching someone else play. I want to be engaged.

[jovial field]

There are always games that we find ourselves in, that because of our spawns, because of the dice, because of our opponents, that we all are just going to lose. Hopefully, those games are few and far between.

[meager meteor]

Me reading this peaking expert like 👁️👄👁️

[spare siren]

Thanks for the encouraging words!

Another season… another failure 😭

[foggy nebula]

Enjoyable is a strong word

[paper spade]

The fact this game is as strategically powerful as chess

[slow lake]

Slamming stacks is fun.

[jovial field]

Encouraging? You can go lower!!! Play more with less time, slam stacks early in the game, and always go for Australia… no matter what! You’ll be a beginner in no time!

[paper spade]

Win/lose ratio and ranks are overrated as definition of skills

[spare siren]

I have a dream.

[paper spade]

Which one?

[amber marsh]

true random caps is very fun

[spare siren]

I have dreams like you. No, really!

Just much less touchy-feely

They mainly happen somewhere warm and sunny

On an island that I own

Tanned and rested and alone

Surrounded by enormous piles of money

🏴‍☠️

[bronze spoke]

true random is actually a good gamemode

and balanced blitz is NOT balanced (that opinion is popular anyways)

[split steeple]

Alliances make the game better because an element of diplomacy is added.

[half briar]

That neighbor caps mean we should be friends and fight everyone else first.

[feral abyss]

I think that's a popular opinion 😄

[torpid grotto]

Unpopular Opinion: If you spam "let's go" and "start game" in a unfull lobby, you should be kicked.
If you can't wait 3 minutes for a game to fill, one can't trust you to stick around for the game.

[spare siren]

What if you’re the host. I sometimes reply “start game” or “let’s go” several times to anyone with the audacity to try to tell me how to run my lobby especially if they are spamming those same emotes. They seem to get the message and either settle down or leave.

[cobalt mist]

Yes those great players that spam that when you are 3 people in the lobby, while hosting a 6 player lobby. And once you actually start the lobby 1 or 2 minutes later they don't ready up.

[torpid grotto]

I usually am the host because I have quite a few maps.
I'll keep that tactic in mind. Still frustrating though, because so many players do it and yet they quit on like, turn 2 or 3.
Which ruins the game, especially on Capitals or zombies when the bots are completely incompetent.

I've seen some threads on here where people are frusterated with hosts that use bots to bait a fuller lobby, but I don't ever do that and still get these rubes who join a 2/6 lobby and spam "start game"

[paper spade]

Only in 1v1. Losing everything on really silly roll while building up for half an hour is irritating

[paper spade]

Sounds quite reasonable

[paper spade]

In most cases, it's strategically better

[half briar]

I think so but all my opponents(that capped after me) all go full hostile till we both die horribly by the snowballer lol. So figured I was a minority

[cloud sentinel]

Balanced Blitz is to Newtonian Physics as True Random is to Quantum Mechanics.

[steep panther]

Risk is idiots game

Without conversation, there is no diplomacy and the game turns into a simple game of luck.

[golden mantle]

You can do a lot of communication with ingame emotes and alliances turned on. If you want "the real deal" I reccommend joing a VC tournament where you can talk with the players on Discord and make deals 🙂

[spare siren]

This version of online RISK is the finest ever and even the finest possible. The devs can all retire because not the slightest improvement is needed.

[torpid grotto]

I'd say the core gameplay is pretty polished.
The UI though, fuck no

[tame relic]

classic fixed with (voice) chat and unlimited time for diplomacy is a theoretical 6-way tie

[clear cave]

What’s your reasoning behind that?

[tame relic]

the tl;dr is that exhaustive diplomacy leads to perfect balance between the players because no one is allowed to gain even the tiniest advantage over the rest

[clear cave]

I can see where you’re coming from

[arctic yarrow]

What are the popular opinions here

[placid sierra]

Risk doesn't give nutritional value (carbs, fat vitamins, etc)
Technically correct, but probably only I could come up with this 😄

[clear cave]

People often take the whole “bonuses don’t matter in prog” philosophy too far, even on maps, settings and situations where they do matter, and can give a victory long before the card trades get big.

Similarly the people who say “kills are never profitable in fixed” are overgeneralising, and overlooking situations where they are.

[coral barn]

the best player always wins 🙂

[tepid echo]

It's generally not the best move to card skip before the first trading sequence.

[feral abyss]

Classic is NOT the best map

[mild spire]

It's generally the best move to card skip before the first trading sequence.

[spare siren]

Pete is not the best risk streamer.

That said I’ll be far too busy to read your reactions as I’ve got to go watch the video Pete posted this morning and maybe another one I missed. Did I miss one yesterday?! I’ll have to check.

[tepid echo]

From every position?

[mild spire]

Even if nobody else card skipped and your sixth in turn order card skipping will guarantee a win

[tepid echo]

Let me get my knife. I'll have you like this ^^
XD

[spare siren]

The proper way to play progressive is for no one to take a card ever.

[mild spire]

Exactly

[clear cave]

That is truly an unpopular opinion. Fits this thread 😂

[coral barn]

i thought the proper way to play was to make sure you all your territories have only 1 troop left to make room for the new recruits 😉

especially when you gonna go to 5 cards

[spare siren]

The loss of any 1 anywhere must be avenged with a full send attack.

[feral abyss]

If you open my capital (even through 1s) it is because you have run out of time to play RISK and are asking nicely for me to throw all of my troops against your capital

[spare siren]

Thank you for placing my second capital in such a convenient spot.

[tepid echo]

Classic is not even a map!

[feral abyss]

Absolutely a coincidence - promise it wasn't me

[meager meteor]

And the conspiracies begin 😭

Japan is an underrated map.

[spare siren]

Risk is just a game.

[coral barn]

Losing over 20 troops before your first card trade is an awesome start

[mild spire]

Japan is actually one of my favorite maps

[grand obsidian]

Zombies need to attack faster.

[silk dawn]

i think they should add an map af the Soviet union

[lethal cloud]

This means War 🤣 I hate true random

[grand obsidian]

You waged war and lost a 10v2, sadly.

[lethal cloud]

You wanna hear the sad part, doesn't have to be true random for that to happen to me 🤣

[cloud sentinel]

Skill issue

[cloud sentinel]

Skill issue

[dry aurora]

I like it when players place capitals in my honeypot. And I enjoy being a player that capitals inside other players honeypots.

[lethal cloud]

My skill has nothing to do with dice rolls

[cloud sentinel]

the original game used actual dice, 🎲 hence the name: Risk

[lethal cloud]

Yes and it was luck based not skill based, thanks for proving my point

[cloud sentinel]

True Random is not for the faint of heart. Enjoy your Balanced Blitz training wheels as you develop your skill set.

[lethal cloud]

@cloud sentinel I play true random occasionally I just don't like it and if you need other players to get unlucky rolls to win it's your own skill set you should be worried about, I'm expert rank atm and happy with it , there's tons I need to learn still but that's ok.

[cloud sentinel]

My point is: 5v2 is an unwise attack. Balanced Blitz is just easier, because it allows for lower risk management thresholds.

[lethal cloud]

@cloud sentinel so you win every balanced blitz game you play ?

[cloud sentinel]

Believe me, losing 10v2 in true random sucks. Every time. So I feel the pain there.

[cloud sentinel]

Every game is tough. Certainly not.

Expert is hard to get. Congratulations!

[lethal cloud]

Thanks, I mean no offense

[cloud sentinel]

The whole slider thing is a game changer. Most people in ffa aren’t using it, so I think that may be a bit unfair to them.

[lethal cloud]

The slider has cost me a game sometimes when I forget to put it back on a bigger stack 🙄

[cloud sentinel]

Ouch

[lethal cloud]

I do use the slider though , you have to your right

[clear cave]

Yeah up to 10% troop save when used in the right cases. In close games that can be huge

[lethal cloud]

Yes

[cloud sentinel]

Both modes require different strategies

[lethal cloud]

What's the best strat for true random ?

[cloud sentinel]

But I miss slinging actual dice sometimes and seeing the craziness go down

[cloud sentinel]

Far more conservative

[lethal cloud]

I don't know how you get more conservative than taking a card and fortifying like most do in blitz, card skipping??

[cloud sentinel]

32 troop count is not enough to eliminate a 28 troop count player

That is peculiar to balanced blitz

[lethal cloud]

When you put it like that your kind of selling it to me a bit, would be nice not to have a stack slammed the moment a noob gets an impulse

[cloud sentinel]

When I lose a lot of rolls I just single stack it

[cloud sentinel]

Looking forward to Secret Mission Risk, Castle Risk c.1984 (with Diplomats, Admirals, Marshals, etc.) & the greatest of all imo: Risk Godstorm. Keep it up developers!

[lethal cloud]

Tell me more about the gameplay of those, I really would like commanders to make a return

[cloud sentinel]

Castle Risk was epic. The first capital mode to give three defender 3 dice. General = +1 on highest attacking die, Marshall = +1 on highest defender die, Diplomat halted attack from one single player to another, Admiral allowed any territory bordering the sea to attack any other country bordering the sea, the spy allowed one to see what cards another person held. That game was wild & crazy.

Godstorm was a combo of Magic the Gathering with Castle Risk, where temples served as capitals.

All of it may be too much to play online for now, but who knows. This new Secret Mission risk sounds like a sci-fi combo of the above games.

[lethal cloud]

Sounds awesome but unfortunately they will probably say that it's all different mechanics, that was what they told me when I asked them to make urban assault features optional

[cloud sentinel]

Ooh

What are urban assault features?

[lethal cloud]

In urban assault each colour was a faction with a unique name , blue was future corp, white was the obsidian order and I can't remember rest as it's been years, each commander would be placed on a territory at the start of the game, blues commander had an air strike which could take 3 troops out automatically without need to fight the Territory at all , whites commander rolled dice and depending what they rolled would defend on how many he killed but if he rolled a one, the machine he operated would breakdown and he'd kill one of his own troops, there was town halls in place of capitals, the player who held the most town halls would be elected mayor every 4 turns, the mayor at the start of every turn had 2 options, he could award another player 2 cards to spend on troops or outlaw a player and put a bounty of 3 cards on them , whoever took most of the outlawed players territory in 2 turns would take the cards and the mayor could take their own bountys. If everyone held the same amount of town halls it went by territory instead, all of this encouraged more aggressive play, you didn't get stalemates or take a card and fortify. I loved it but apparently it wasn't very popular according to people I've spoken to on discord

[cloud sentinel]

That sounds fire. Encouraging chaos. Might share similarities with the new Secret Mission Risk.

[lethal cloud]

It was fire, I'm surprised that they don't seem to want to use just some of it at some point but I hope your right about secret mission, is that going to be a separate game altogether or an added pack to global domination

[cloud sentinel]

Not sure. Waiting to hear more!

[spare siren]

Each troop lost in an unnecessary cap roll means an angel got their wings.

[spare siren]

If you don’t roll my cap first turn… I will FIGHT you!

[languid orchid]

why does everyone get a 10 set. I hav e never seen so many 10 sets in my 30 years playing risk

[steep panther]

Send more dudes in classic fixed

[warped tulip]

@languid orchid. Yep and they always get it on 3 cards while your stuck with 4 of the same card

[spare siren]

Getting eliminated from a risk tournament can be just as much fun as making the next round

[steep panther]

Yep

[tepid echo]

I just got eliminated from a tournament and honestly - I'm more than happy! I had a great time, learned from my mistakes and now I have more valuable free time for other things.

[empty forge]

game takes too long

[spare siren]

Risk is for girls.

[tepid echo]

You think that's an unpopular opinion?

[spare siren]

The best ever death metal risk streamer who came out of Denton never settled on a name.

[steep panther]

??

[spare siren]

No! All my opinions are well reasoned and insightful. And I never write anything deliberately controversial, provocative, sarcastic, or facetious for this unpopular opinion channel.

[spare siren]

Never been kissed? 🥲

Because you play RISK? 🤔

[small hedge]

psssst, don't tell them you play Risk, the right moment for that is if you want to break up but don't have the courage to do that yourself.

[bronze spoke]

Classic.

[cloud sentinel]

Who here would in fact join a lobby in actual FFA with any of these maps & settings in the so-called “FFA World Championship”

It seems like all I see there is Euro Advanced & Classic