🪛・switch-issues

[ripe swift]

[lost beacon]

It came!

[red flicker]

Before anyone starts complaining, the mission with italdesign probably comes this friday, so hold ur horses

[sinful jay]

[brittle solar]

Probably car hunt because they don't want to do 1v1 for DaVinci

[gloomy zenith]

I demand action from the Asphalt 9 Switch development team. Upon attempting to redeem the code from switch announcements “8AJBARMz”, after entering the code, my switch screen turned bright orange and then the unit turned off completely. Immediately after, my doorbell rang and a German man wearing a Gaemloft shirt and holding a Kartoffelknödel appeared at my door. He shouted something at me in German before running into my bathroom and taking a dump next to the toilet. He swiftly left without cleaning it up. I call upon the Gameloft team to resolve this transgression swiftly and satisfactorily. I await your response. Kind regards, Daddy.

[white epoch]

looks like you landed on someone with a shockwave

[lost beacon]

Yeah! Happened to me twice...

[vivid hawk]

This is a ghost race, I should not be knockdown by someone..

[sturdy maple]

Chiron physics for ya

😳

[sturdy maple]

Cant find an mp1 lobby bruh

[pulsar kestrel]

The game is broke help

[sinful jay]

Servers are down

[sturdy maple]

🗿

[lost hinge]

Happy te hear that, keep it up buddy!

[dense harness]

Sorry, Hanz was supposed to be on home arrest

[white epoch]

ah

[boreal sorrel]

Hm...I have problems starting the game.....I see the loading screen now for 3min

[wild oak]

Server are down

It is not internet connexion

I tried with 3 different internet connection

[dense harness]

checking with people that do servers

[terse steeple]

game works fine, error is on login

[dense harness]

any extra info helps

if some managed to log in

or are logged in

do tell

[stoic knoll]

yeah the error is on login, but i just got out of it then loaded the game in again and i got in

[wild oak]

I managed then mp2 finish race but server error

Then turned off then impossible turn on

Tried wifi or 4g

Same

(Thanks for your help)

[iron garnet]

Im logged in… searching for players in mp1

Got two…

Not sure if they will show up…

[wild oak]

My race in mp1 before sync error 4 player disconnected

[iron garnet]

They disconnected

[vague night]

i managed to boot up 3 times after a long wait, but no online game possible... my grind in mp2 and carhunt is getting ruined....

[dense harness]

it just logged me in, can someone check?

[wild oak]

I logged in on one account after long waiting time

[vague night]

logging in works after long wait, mp does not

[hasty prawn]

Global is also having login and MP issues atm

I just got in

[iron garnet]

I managed to do one race!

[wild oak]

Maybe black friday sales on connection 🤣

[iron garnet]

Im on a 6 players race… starts to look normal…

[dense harness]

Aight, alarm raised and received. Some server issues, was told it's being handled as we speak.

[wild oak]

Tywm

[dense harness]

going back to procrastinate

[dense harness]

How is it now?

[frozen tide]

FYI i am real worried about taking my GP runs at this rate i just had 3 crashes in a row in practice

so no improvement unfortunatly.

every 3-4 races im getting disconncted... GP, canada day, money runs etc

MP1 and Mp2

[dense harness]

Sending feedback

[frozen tide]

only the car hunt seems stable atm

[terse steeple]

used 20€, around 500 tokens to recharge tickets, doing the car hunt daily 4h+, still at 5/54 last star, if this isnt a issue i dont know what it is

you know how to lose customers

[frozen tide]

@dense harness

[frozen tide]

I've done no token refills for tixkets and ive only got 10 bps to go..

[terse steeple]

got 3BP from 20€ so

3BP from 40 packs

[frozen tide]

singles?

[terse steeple]

10€ each

but yeah, those were the last money from me, this is ridiculous. 20€, 500 tokens, around 40h of gameplay, to not get what i wanted

they crossed the line once more, im tired of this

[sturdy maple]

but your still going to play

[weak folio]

It's problem with your switch. Most likely the game files are corrupted. Delete and redownload while having your SD card REMOVED. I hope this helps. You will not lose any progress on any accounts.

[grave cobalt]

remove the AI from BoS S class, or reduce it to just one bot as it should be

its way too hard to beat 26 sec with the Senna due to the obnoxious overcrowded Ai

[gloomy zenith]

He didn’t even bring me a Weihenstephaner.

[sudden isle]

i'm also finishing now without token refills, but tbh you got to be nolifer to finish it this way and its definitely not worth it anyway
so car hunt was way too bad on drop rates
also car hunt riot will be way too bad as all the others, when you need to finish top 200 to get 5% and most likely no extra eip's as usual
and mp trial series with broken seriesscoresystem and fuel limitation is just completely bad

and everything could be fixed so easy ...

just upgrade car hunt droprate reasonable to get like something between 5-10bps/10runs
just replace 1% and 5% riot brackets by top100 and top500 as %brackets doesnt make sens on a ded playerbase
just set mp2 milestone back from 3000 to 1000 an make fuel unlimited on trial series
... it would be soo easy to improve game experience for everyone but some just dont want, how i understand it

[frozen tide]

im not the only one having issues. Now I cannot even log into the game

ill try redownloading

[sturdy maple]

Servers been extra 🥔 lately

[frozen tide]

Also right now, due to the short season - Burst Of Speed 4th July should be 1 ticket not two.. like the original series a few years back. Its too many tickets - car hunt, special events, etc. I havent even been able to start the SE because of all the other ticketed event requirements

[dense harness]

SE and hunt already have reduced ticket costs by 1, and BOS is 2 weeks long, you don't have to cram everything into 3 days, you'll have the full next week which doesn't have a new car hunt

[frozen tide]

oh thats good to know!

[terse steeple]

"there is no more blind than the one who does not want to see"

[south topaz]

kekw, guy just avoided about all others issue cleanly

[terse steeple]

is barely impossible to play a decent race on TV mode, fps drops are insane

[south topaz]

Check Corsa Unleashed event, man you guys never did anything right

[vague night]

so new decent cars need to be max before you get a chance to drive them these days? or am i interpreting corsa unleashed wrong

[midnight mist]

In the unleashed from unleashed i cannot select acura or scalo , but i can select random other nonsense cars

@dense harness @shy prairie

[shy prairie]

Should be fixed

[south topaz]

No, still the same car to me after restart

[shy prairie]

asking the team...

maybe wait 5 mins and give another restart

[dense harness]

Its fixed steph

[shy prairie]

sometimes it take 10 mins for the changes to show

[dense harness]

They are just not restarting the game

[south topaz]

But I just did vio

Lol

[shy prairie]

it might be the region

takes a bit until all the changes are rolled out

but it was changed

[south topaz]

Fair
Confimed fixed

[rain crown]

Where are they??

Missing the acura , the artega and the big one , the ats

[raven cedar]

Just restart the game?

[rain crown]

Are they on yours?

[raven cedar]

Can't look rn but it should be fixed after you restart

[rain crown]

Ok the nsx AND the Artega showed up but i m missing the ATS

[true oak]

restart the game again it should be fine now

[red flicker]

Just opened the game, these cars can’t hit the rank requirements?

[rain crown]

They are fine . Otherwise they would be on the far left

[red flicker]

I can’t play the race with them even though I’ve hit the maximum star requirement

[rain crown]

Then restart i guess . It seems ti be the answer to everything these days

What the hell is going on . I can no longer race after restarting ? Suddenly i need to be gold ???

This game is so buggy this is insane!!

[shy prairie]

Will be fixed

[rain crown]

Fine but what is the timeline. You shrunk the events so much, there is need for so much fuel for every coexisting events . It s impossible to manage. You should have SE and daily fuel separated if you are going that way . Time is our ennemy

[shy prairie]

15 minutes

[rain crown]

Thank you

[shy prairie]

Unleashed should be fixed

[south topaz]

It is

[rain crown]

How are we supposed to reach 4 stars with the car required? There is not enough bp

[south topaz]

You remember Onyx unleashed? Does it give you enough to 6 star?

[rain crown]

You need at least 80 bp on top of the one you race for . At 700 for 3 , you need about 27 packs = 18900 token burn to just be able to race for a "possible " key in the pack . How many race do you need to pull the key ? With limited fuel ? Who on on their right mind would even find that acheivable or entertaining. It should allow us to race for it from 2 at least . Reward the player who took the time to get the cars at least. You are just killing that game

[vast dagger]

If I'm remembering correctly the Corsa gets a key hunt in a future season.

[terse steeple]

MP2 ranking rewards are MP1 rewards

do you guys check and test updates? because seems like not

bring a QA to your life

we are working as your tester now but this should happend prior the update not after xd

[shy prairie]

That is intended

[violet panther]

Why change mp1 again give us the change to unlock fenyr supersport, why did you go back to the zenvo gameloft

[stuck viper]

The game is lagging those days. Lack of fluidity.
Switch gen 1 (.lot of free memory available)

[stuck viper]

Jerky. Hard to control cars
Osaka unplayablesometimes because of a big bug (track replaced by geometric forms)

[dense harness]

Mp1 still has that, no?

[ripe swift]

Ghost/slipstream season will have fenyr, classic is zenvo with the new update afaik so it’s alright

[violet panther]

@dense harness not here anymore

[devout surge]

I feel that the fps is going worse lately I remember it being smoother.

or the camera moves too much Even in a straight line

[hasty prawn]

Yeah. I'm getting like 15-20fps in MP.

[devout surge]

In this game I know there is a lot going on at the same time and the maps are quite detailed but I think they can make it run a lot better.

@shy prairie I don't like to ask for things but if they worked more on the fps it would make the game much more enjoyable.

[stuck viper]

For me FPS issue is getting worse, yep

For Osaka bugs, it appears everywhere : MP, events and 1 Vs 1 as well
For 1vs1, it's a big issue...

[gritty oxide]

Stage 41 on quick race is literally impossible
There is no way you can do 8 barrel rolls if the cops are acting like dumb people

[devout surge]

And some missions to be completed you have to do a certain thing and also win the race and in some of those missions it was almost impossible to do both at the same time (many of them I still don't complete).

[sturdy maple]

nabs

[frosty onyx]

@dense harness Stage 16 roma, Need roma 3000, I have it max with the epic from Mp2 and with the epic of the pass, putting them in the nitro(best place) , the car is 2993. We are missing 1 epic. How can we get it? Riot 5% 160 people on switch... , or luck in pack riot. You cant make a special event based on luck or design for 160 people. There is an epic missing somewhere. Can you investigate or reduce to 2993 thanks 👍

[frosty onyx]

No we are back to zenvo

[lost beacon]

Not to 2993 but 2985 it should be no matter what place you put 2 epics

[frosty onyx]

2993 if you put both on nitro

[lost beacon]

It doesn't matter 2 epics needed so it should be 2985 why someone who choose something other than nitro have to be discriminated?

[violet panther]

They just need to change every SE no cars wich needs eip because gameloft needs to consider that we dont want some cars gold like the zerouno why would we want it gold because we never use this cars at max rank without eips should be it you make this game unfair to play. And if there is a SE i want to see more eips in my shop.

My second issue is that if you buy 15 euro seasonpass you get a free 3 star car just give us all the stars for free always wanting us to buy the last 2 star ups for your SE

[frosty onyx]

They can ask epcs if they are available but for roma they ain't only if lucky. Zerouno it's in tc shop

[real ledge]

I would like to ask if there's an issue at the legend store, i've been waiting for a certain epic, i'm at garage level 16, i haven't seen the epic which i've been for 2 weeks & still hasn't appeared in the store. Thanks

[frosty onyx]

Random epics

Buy others to reduce the choice 🤓

[violet panther]

@frosty onyx what i mean is every time i need a eip for a SE event the store wont show me any the want me to spend money on eips. Last season i needed 1 eip for pagani the whole season not once available in the shop

If they want us to make a car gold show the eips you need more in store so we can make it gold

[south topaz]

Yea because they want you to gold it by paying if you don't realized yet

[dense harness]

(1st pic) Wrong Epics rewards in Mp2 packs
(2nd epic) Its should contain the SE cars requirement epics

[hasty prawn]

Steph already said it’s correct

[charred kite]

i have had very frequent disconnects in mp2 like every 2-3 races in a 6 fuel using a strong internet connection

[south folio]

looked it up on youtube, these rewards are actually correct global had same ones for this mp

[dense harness]

Another unfairness

[frosty onyx]

but this is a real problem because we need a roma epic, only BP in millestones( while we used to have epic at 20,25,30 they replaced by bps) and the final ranking isn't the season epic. so basically only 210 guy can do the stage 16 with ROMA. tks GL

[south folio]

one in LP, one was in MP and one is in riot

[south folio]

if you make this big deal out of this then wait for buggati veyron special event, in stage 13 you need golden Acura NSX GT3 EVO

this car will have its own key hunt

[frosty onyx]

@south folio but acura you got a GP, free pack GP, a MP2 probably a second MP2. so you have 3 or 4 chances. here nothing, all-in in 1 riot pack.

[south folio]

☝️

[frosty onyx]

210 people...

[south folio]

yes better then most of lp riots

[south topaz]

No more nsx gt3 mp2 lol, check schedule

[frosty onyx]

Lp riots are for fun gold, here it's for the se

[south topaz]

Yea, the Murcielago

Fun indeed

[south folio]

🤣

youll see that roma isnt the worst to come in SEs

[frosty onyx]

And switch is always worst, see the swap 5 corsa vs 5 roma go switch players pay 750 tok

[south folio]

look complain about roma as much as you want there was/is a chance to get all three epics for free, the real problem rn is Imola SE not roma stage trust me xD

[frosty onyx]

Where is the problem? Just delayed or removed

[south folio]

removed

it will have "alternate" way to obtain

[frosty onyx]

Oh yeah they stole us 1 epic to replace with aperta...

[south topaz]

Removed is the worst thing it could happen lol

Imagine you starts from 0 to unlock with 0 help

[south folio]

plus they killed the only reason why you would spend on corsa

not mentioning those epics you could get from SE...

[frosty onyx]

True , I paid for no reason for a bad car and now I m pissed for roma

[south folio]

welp roma have another usage so at least its not so bad ?

you need it maxed in W12 event but the problem there is that for key you need GT2 RS and im sure nearly noone except whales have that car maxed

[frosty onyx]

I mean I paid for corsa

[south folio]

hey me too and guess what usually you spend up to 4k for that car and you get 1.5k back

this car will have key hunt tho is like 6 months or 8

[barren violet]

Why I can't claim the 4th aniversity reward on my switch

[ripe swift]

3rd anniversary on switch this October, maybe that’s why

[barren violet]

Oh

😶

Ty

[ripe swift]

[queen vessel]

remnant 🇺🇲#0119 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[feral zealot]

Very laggy / poor frame speed 👎

[barren violet]

Graphic issue

[dense harness]

When the key comes out of the trash of this car,made 50 races. I want them to return the blue chips and keep the plans of that garbage, it was not porched that he bought the full pass for this garbage game. 😤😤

[dense harness]

Joe and Steph plz do something about the servers, started a race three times and this happened thrice in a row

[sinful jay]

Same

[real ledge]

credits heist is not available

[fierce harness]

Two hours later, still no Credits Heist.

[brittle solar]

Oh no the credits there broken!

[south topaz]

When an event is gone, you can expect it to to comeback around 8AM GMT

[dense harness]

basically when we wake up

[dense harness]

I check coliseum’s games corsa or inizio or lotta few but not there mazzanti car nothing huh

[ripe swift]

[dense harness]

Ya 2 days left

[high zealot]

Why?

2/3 runs on my GP, this message appear!!

[austere vector]

what does the text says

[high zealot]

I think the problem is the SD card. I archive and reinstall on memory game console

[austere vector]

can you translate the text?

[weak folio]

This is exactly the problem, good job identifying

[shy prairie]

https://www.thecpuguide.com/gaming/nintendo-switch-error-code-2002-2060/

It's a device error

[stoic wedge]

I really appreciate the idea taking short tracks in Legend League, but is it intentional to mix 30' with 60' and 90' Tracks? Would've loved to see a short track only mp1

[red flicker]

That will happen in mp2 in new breed rivals season, altho I’m disappointed with the lack of league mixing

Having 60” or 30” tracks would even the playing field since S class cars have lesser time to pass more agile B and A class cars, no?

[jagged loom]

Lags, lags, lags.. usually at the end of mp2 there is huge traffic when everyone want to grind last points. It's not playing it is like watching slideshow without control.
I wonder why people are still paying for this doubtful pleasure.

[stoic wedge]

Ladies and Gentlemen,
thanks for the davinci hunt! But is it possible that 42 and 39s are wrong? Maybe it should be 45 and 42s instead, cause 40s is the requirement for the special cars. Thanks for hearing me out🙂

[dark gust]

Hello, what’s wrong with ATS key packs? This is my 50th run, and still no key. Do I need to open a ticket @shy prairie ? Thanks for your help.

[terse steeple]

are MP2 milestone points you earn every race correct? they give way less than previous MP and the conditions are pretty the same, limited fuel and 30k, 1 week

[dense harness]

I see the same tables

[dark gust]

60th race, no key…. 😱😱😱 What is supposed to be the key ratio?

[midnight mist]

maybe you are comparing points from lower leagues with points from higher leagues ?

[brittle solar]

About 1%

[terse steeple]

i was getting 100+ points on silver for big lobbies on last MP, after fishing 8 races at 1st place, only 200 points

[sudden isle]

you can do 38s with i8 2stars

but the choice of car is as bad as everything else

the car was only available once in paysyndicate3 8 month ago and never again

so players who missed out this single event over the past 3 years don't even have the car

car hunt is also named incorrect

named car hunt: davinci instead car hunt: italdesign davinci

and droprate 0%, first 20 packs opened, 0 bps

[fervent mulch]

Don't make this 40s with i8. Please increase the time by 1s. Beat 41s with BMW i8 Roadster

Please do it

[unborn prairie]

3* etense 37.7s
4* elise 37.5s

definitely cant TD, and cant wreck, if wreck once at least 39-40s, wreck twice 42s

[sonic lark]

how newbie beat 39s for 2bps. need increase time.

[fervent mulch]

Gold E-Tense = 37.144
Max Elise (No EIPs) = 37.122
1* Max i8 = 39.156

[dense harness]

Plz increase the Davinvi car hunt times since its only 2 packs

[muted bluff]

Will the next 1v1 be the Mazzanti?

[midnight mist]

I am getting multiple random game shutdowns in the middle of a race, with -20 and fuel loss as a result

[versed brook]

Could you please increase the Times in davinci hunt? At least make it 42 and 40 Seconds But 39 Seconds ist tough imo.

[weak folio]

Yes thats a good idea

[unborn prairie]

issue : switch freezed (not crashed) during closing asphalt 9 (by pressing X button) due to unable to re-connect back to server

how to replicate this issue : after enter the game in handheld mode, left it open until switch automatically turned off by itself, then press power/wake and enter the game again.

the game will tell that it has connection issue, if asphalt 9 unable to reboot back to main title (after waiting for a while), press the home button, and try close the program by clicking X button. high chances it will freeze, and switch unable to respond to anything except force shutdown by holding power button for 10s

additional info : it also happen that asphalt 9 unable to load icon for weekly tournament in daily event (and keep rotating, indicating that it might still tried to load the icon) in my place, who knows this might be the culprit

[lean charm]

Last bit. You just need to clear the cache in the settings

[unborn prairie]

thats usually i do indeed, but since it's only 1 icon, i decided to do it later

[frosty onyx]

italian special ends in 10 days, pass end in 4 days, that means we have a week off. Can you extend the pass for a week so we can enjoy the extended fuel and the bonus rep/tc ?

[ripe swift]

#switch-suggestions

[shy prairie]

i asked the team

[crystal lichen]

Hi, I wrongly missclicked and went out of the page with the code, is it possible to get that code again? 🥺

[unborn prairie]

the code will be send at your email once again in case you are missing it

[shy prairie]

Done

[frosty onyx]

Thanks

[unborn prairie]

wow its updated in real time

[crystal lichen]

Thank you!!🙏🏼

[sinful jay]

Thank you Stephany

[rotund trout]

Everytime I buy an epic or bp from the shop the game crashes immediately. This has been happening to me for a while now and it's getting out of hand.

[bleak maple]

Is it just me, or is the page to get the code maxed out? It redirects to the Nintendo Store page. If so, can we APAC players get something? The post went out at 11pm while we were sleeping, checked just now at 7am...

[unborn prairie]

seems some player abused the email for it

[sinful jay]

[weak folio]

Yeah, I definitely don’t know ANYBODY who would do such a thing…

[unborn prairie]

better just let it go, plus i bet some people have tempted to do it as well, thats why it depleted fast

[sinful jay]

[dense harness]

I guess they should have linked it to the game account

[lost beacon]

Yes they should but they probably didn't care most ppl here have roma maxed it was only tc

[unborn prairie]

yeah they should indeed

[lost beacon]

@dense harness pls fix the amount of credits in mp2 in elite league in places from 4th to 8th to some round number. If I am not top 3 I must quit race to avoid not having round number of credits and it sucks!

[dense harness]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[lost beacon]

:-( :-( :-(

It's game breaking Joe!

[dense harness]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-but-still-no-head-shake-disagree-disapprove-deny-gif-12425340

[lost beacon]

I lost so many ranking points bacause of that but I guess I must always be top 3

I know I am pedant but what can I do?

[ripe swift]

[snow dome]

i dont have my Roma Maxed im missing like 6 for rank 4 :v

[unborn prairie]

uh oh, had you been bit early you probably get redeem code for it

[real ledge]

pls fix your multiplayer. getting disconnected many times i got demoted.

[grave cobalt]

@shy prairie @dense harness sorry for the ping, but is there a specific reason why the Asterion EIPs are absent for an eternity now? it's a very basic car that was available since the beginning. could you re-add its EIPs to the shop?

[red flicker]

Please revert MP1 to its old format, the new one has been generally poorly received by most of the people I've asked.

[wild oak]

Happening 20x today

I installed on the switch seems to be more stable than sd card

[shy prairie]

@wild oak

[wild oak]

Thanks. After moving the game from sd to switch it is better

[shy prairie]

Great

[rain crown]

Can t chase the davinci anymore

[ripe swift]

Did you try a restart after clearing cache?

[acoustic sigil]

I had an issue where someone left the club I am in and it didn't show that someone left in the chat area. When I unlocked the davinci 2 days ago it didn't show up in the chat until 2 days later.

[ripe swift]

The countdown in LL is missing

Edit: not every race

[sturdy maple]

Good

Seconds of my life isn’t wasted

[red flicker]

A common problem for 30” tracks, not fixed on Global either

[vivid drift]

@shy prairie hi
Got the warning about being banned. Tap Customer Care. Got the form with email and ticket id. For ticket id I need to fill the form on support website. But there is no such category.

[terse steeple]

What is your excuse to abuse the email system?

[brittle solar]

@dense harness I don't mean to bug you but would it be possible to make the sc18 mp2 unlimited fuel because an hour is really long to wait for a refill

Sorry I didn't see the message in general 😅

[glad owl]

@shy prairie thanks👍really nice of you stealing accounts of other people for a reason which you won’t even describe properly, I can see how important the players are to y’all…

[lost hinge]

It is our fault programmers can't code properly, 65€ well spent during this month in this game, also a joy to stay up all night because having a job and farming 2 30K mp is not compatible (sarcasm)

[vivid drift]

If you could read my message carefully, the issue is in another.

[glad owl]

I mean it wasn’t even in the rules of the post…

[chrome cedar]

@shy prairie can you give a explication of why i got banned? literally seconds before i was playing normally and then that happen.

[frosty onyx]

the ban is for abuse the ROMA code

[tight sparrow]

Maybe we thought it was compensation for all the bugs you are not able to fix, missing cars and so on...

[brittle solar]

There's a mass ban wave going on at least your not alone ig if that makes you feel any better

Plus it's only a week long

[queen vessel]

Kripner21#6099 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vivid drift]

It's time to get a rest and delete the account.

[solemn wagon]

Seriously ban because 3 emails I only got red tokens and credits, and one week, after more than 2 years playing and all the money and time I put on this game, I don’t want to put any ticket .this Is the way you will destroy the a9 on switch community I hope you fix this today because i will leave the game if nothing happens

[glad owl]

They don’t care about the Community at all, that’s known for every Gameloft game

It would be acceptable if they would put that rule into the post itself…

[heady prism]

I am also banned. Well, next time maybe state it out clearly within the rules BEFOREHAND , as others here mentioned as well. It is just ridiculous like that.

[native fiber]

Maybe after 7 days without playing A9 I will quit. I don't know yet.

[wild oak]

Sf90 packs supposed to stay 7 more days

Please bring back 🙏

[dense harness]

Since most us got banned because you didn't clear the message can you plz extend Italian special event

For 3 days so we can complete that atleast