#🎖・multiplayer
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Alright, @plain pumice has been warned for 'Mass mention'.
with more players you have a chance to gain but this is absolute b s
Referring just to the letters
Wait till your d class face a chiron
worst idea for an mp season
I guess @narrow pasture was right the other day about pros
I already beat the mass mention. They're going to see they got pinged and they're going to get confused
@celest swan what did Danny said
Whenever I come across a member of the Lucky's I always see them using the lower d class in this season
wouldnt be surprised tbh
it's like they're trying to make the game fail
Lol. Botting @vital jungle
It must be the newly made pros
Only thing is sadik might not expose the guy because he was his friend
Vote me as the next proracer person and I will make Asphalt 9 great again!
Only if it worked that way... 😦
Nowadays am seeing people in pros section who's names I have never heard before.
To be exact the guy receiving free cars is SuperSonic S.G.
if the matchmaking was good...Duels are a great idea....but it sucks xd
GL trying to do a nice thing for someone, take some time to putting a maxed cars player on Duel season, burn down GL hq.
@vital jungle such as?
I don’t know, some people.
Hey android brothers
there needs to be community complaining about this absolute terrible idea for mp season, totally imbalanced. if they're going to make a 1v1 season then it NEEDS to be restricted to the ranking, no mixing legend with platinum or whatever
Have any of you faced that Mexican dude that won the Chiron a couple of months back in MP?
MericaDaBest
im just curious btw
@glass atlas Matchmaking needs to be fair in Duels.....but i like the idea if done right
yes, duel as a concept is fine I like it. but restrict it or it's too unfair
@glass atlas why cant? spyder and pagani have a very good chance against S class
even VLF
Apollo will be nerf 🤣🤣
you always have a chance to beat those cars, how many even max the 3
i have them maxed. the player with the maxed lykan i just faced did too
i stood no chance with the vlf, which is also maxed
they are killing the game with this unfair MM....new players will not play like this.....oh well....
unless they wrecked, which of course they didnt
even old players want fair MM
theres 5 days to season end, when no skill made it to LL it'll be fair
i'm an old player and i dont like it. guaranteed rank loss when faced against a higher teir
you guys are too reactionary
i only have a poor 1* 918
WTH
@glass atlas thank the pros who made gameloft change it
yeah, that right there
corrupt af
that's what i'm talkin about
@noble hazel well thats not the game's fault is it
3.5k p1 vs 4.6k chiron
its luck 😂
pathetic MM.....
literally impossible you will lose rank. whereas more players you have a chance to gain
@broken cedar
Should i go to lottery😂
@glass atlas you're judging after 2 days..I mena you could be right after all but too early to judge the MM
mixing legend with platinum is kind of ok in normal mp. but 1v1? no
@novel aspen we're judging because the pros made gameloft change it
also this is the first time we have duel season, theres bound to be flaws
its literally p2w with these maxed cars in platinum.....
@novel aspen I'd like to see you try to defend the matchmaking with Bugatti and P1...
of course we're judging. it's massively flawed right away, we don't need to wait to see that
Shouldnt match plat with legends in duel
Go on, defend gameloft
@plain pumice im not defending GL lmao but its not fair to judge right now, its 2 days into the season
@novel aspen Oh it's definitely fair to judge now
Even if I do make it to Legends league, I'll still judge
@novel aspen gameloft changed the points to suit the people who got a headstart
yep official, this game will fail
But I won't make it to Legends League, I promise you
I might not even be able to pull another plat
@plain pumice @harsh marten both online. Can we get an official statement regarding this?
plat easy to get to. but mixing legends with platinum makes it almost impossible to get legends now. totally unfair
In on it or manipulated @plain pumice @harsh marten ?
Just don't play this season then
where have GL clarify the changes?
Focus on trion daily event
@novel aspen you would know if you played during the early hours of the season
And vencer hunt
They don't need to clarify
it was a gr8 opportunity for rep that i can't doubt
It's obvious
i mean i may as well play this season anyway, it couldn't hurt. but i'm not going to remain silent over these ridiculous changes for a game i enjoy
Finally, thanks Phoenix club
i'd like to read it and also I am aware that pro racer have stupid influence and direct contact with Fabien
gg
Sorry kinda late
I didnt notice the convo screenshot at first but i disliked how it went
It was usually.+5, +4 in the early hours
Now we also get a -
The league also influence the rating I guess..
yea, i got to plat early hours, a day later first game i play i lost -4 when i win
against a HIGHER ranked car
its so obvious
yeah so if they gonna mix ranks like that then either remove the loss or dont mix ranks
When players hate this duel season, this happens when attack and shooting up HQ one day.
higher ranked player too
are the LL players all legit anyway 🤔
@celest swan agreed
most of these pros have some subtle hack applied
Thx GL
Nooo
dont
Don't
they're probably using that $200 hack @novel aspen
Oki
its unbannable
i got the nsx and 918 from those packs tho :p
I need 3bps to 2* 918
Nooooo
I got -4 deduction too
at least i was told it was unbannable
@noble hazel do u have a SV?
no
Don't buy
Ok
When i lost my vlf to 918
I'll save
i bought a couple CNY packs, ended up being worth it. got spyder and huyra upgraded a good bit
U get those bp in encore events
1160... might not make it to plat
@celest swan its not unbannable, GL just dont ban cuz its good for their game..less legit player get top reward = better lol
I need 10 bps to 3* SV
lol plat is not hard
we need @narrow pasture to provide insight on this whole pro situation. he was the first to call them out a couple of days ago for getting free tokens/cars
its just after that
no one believed him but he was right
I needed 1 bp for 4 star Pagani...had to spend 2250 tokens for that....don't buy it @empty frost
"Pros" = real noobs
wait they gave people free cars?
When intentionally KD but player are angry, say:
‘Let’s see what you got’
‘Crepper Phillips, Remember that’
I'll save
what? i bought one 10 back and got a bunch of bps
@noble hazel yes according to @narrow pasture
that's 750
They get free tokens too
wth
So thats' why this doesn't come as a shock tbh
@celest swan free tokens and cars are well known since a8 and is not a problem imo but asking their opinion and applying these opinion, thats a problem
pros influencing MP points
👍
cuz pros are just good at the game, they are not good with actual thinking
Grt
that luck tho lit fam
Now I can 3* Regera
i dont care about being at the top. giving them free stuff is unethical but at least fix the shady mechanics
@novel aspen I wouldn't even say pros are good at the game (not just Asphalt 9, but other games like CSGO)
being a pro is basically a popularity contest
Getting 1:03 is hard if you are TD @empty frost
Nah I'm not td
Good for u
I think I'll atleast get 1:07
@celest swan i dont agree, they are goood, not all ofcourse but they are in general a top 1% player
Say F if you don't use touchdrive
No pros in A9 in my opinion, they don't even make money
F
E
I got 1:04 with TD without a max 3* @empty frost
This should be with name
@vital jungle what event is this?
Regera day 13 I guess
U can only use regera in day 17
but its a free try
Not some
A lot,instead of some
i have the cars to get the regera, but not the REQUIRED RANKS to do so
@noble hazel day 17 is a free try?
Look, I’ve got my company.... Trevor Phillips Indutries...
yes
Hackers is the real king of A9🐷
😂😂😂👍
i personally dont care about hacker anymore
they are here to stay
thats the reality
@vast narwhal 🤔
Nah that's not me😂 😂
wish I could become like him He seems so cool and relaxed😂 @vast ore
🤔
GL are looking at it rationally - there are people who are useful for GL, and people who ain’t, and the people who ain’t got to go.
@vast narwhal Wish I could be like him! Massive LOL
If i could hack this game.i just wanna hack the tokens and credit😂
Me, I’m not rational, i don’t care if GL are useful or not.
@true wadi I want 150 BPs per 10 pack
@vast ore😂 😂 👍
Credits =😂
Seriously who would wanna waste 2k tokens for 527000 credits
The fuel and ticket system should be replaced by credits...instead of tokens @broken cedar
U can get that much and more in one day
@vital jungle maybe this guy
😂
@vast narwhal tfw everything requires tokens
Alright, @midnight barn has been warned for 'Bad word usage'.
Hehe @vast ore
This is why the people I race on Duel season are usually dead.
Finally the Bit ch is maxed now
@woven jackal Credits to Vegeta and vikas for hooking me up with that super funny GIF
I hate trade coins
its not beyatch...its a cat..it looks like a dead cat 😂 @midnight barn
@midnight barn Bi tch is maxed? Did she get botox injections and other fillings?
F this game. matched against buggati, legend car again
Trade coins are nothing but disappointment
@midnight barn yeah..its time to fckk the mp😂
@vast ore hehe
@woven jackal Faaaaaaaaack! Let me pull out my massive lol image. That was so facking hilarious
@true wadi no man i beat this car with H2 so many times...
To milk it?
How about sending a tank to MP?
😂😂🤣
@woven jackal Quit the game for a cow! Faaaaaack LOL!😂
Pure milk!? Not hacked one!? Massive LOL again
That cow reminds me of Nicolas Cage
@vast ore man Raj is streaming..come back
@woven jackal Woh! That deserves a mega mammoth massive super duper omega lol!😂
Yes. Spanked one that zoomed away at the start in a 2 star Laf with my max 918. Acceleration hacks only help so much.
Lotta hackers this season tho. Worst I've seen. Like 1 in 4 races in high Plat+ is against a hacker.
Nice system
what an idiotic mp
i am always raced with bugattis and fenyr lykans how i can win?
when i am 1380+ always bugattis
drop to 1360 come 1380 and again buagttis
bugattis
who made this mp is an i d i o
gl
gl
Alright, @faint zephyr has been warned for 'Bad word usage'.
brainless people keep pushing at start of mp how is that fair?
they just push you in the start
@lucid girder that's still platinum though
Use the best cars u have tian and keep refilling them
People in platinum are being matched with fenyrs and chirons
try pininfarina or scg or porsche spyder
Love lykan
So?
U don't have a vlf?
Then use only vlf if u can't win with others 🤷
@lucid girder watch ads. Only max vlf can get u to legend
@flat oak so cheap kek
I would get to Legends using any car
that would mean even use J50
@lucid girder nope j50 will take you back to bronze
😂
anyway im 50 from LL, with 5 days to go I think I should play when more TD user hit high plat
1276
I m catching up
so much day work
ree
lmao
1285 using Acura against my SV 1270
Rip
hm
1335 Porsche
me on 1292 corvette
lmao
same time
1:24:032
but that 918 was like 0.001 frame ahead
😂
🤔
Did you see the post
Apollo 😍
@celest swan That's not true
The guy is simply lying
You started losing points in platinum even in the first day
What rating did you reach in the first day?
Around 1300 you start dropping points
I was top 10 in the first day and I stalled at 1350 points
and i was matched with higher ranked car and player
lmao there we go
ur top 10
ur probably the guy hes talking about
You can ask everyone else, point drops start at higher rating
they started after people complained
everyone loses points now
its so obvious they changed how much points you earn, no point denying it
Yeah, I see you're just another brainlet, no point trying to change your mind
well, testing on 1235, and -2 as got second place.
and with the proof that guy posted, i'm fully convinced that there are some dodgy corrupt pros and staff
for now
I lost points at 1250 too
yeah, definitely changed
Go back to theorizing that the Earth is flat
go back to thinking of a better insult to try and roast me
and attempting to cover this whole thing up
I dont lose points in gold XD
If that wasn't a good roast then what is? lol
Higher ratings does influence point drops. But if u notice it we get minimum point drop in the first few hours or the first day and more on the upcoming days of the season
I guess till 1200 we only lose -1 or none
Now it could be because they change something or higher ratings more point drops and more people registering
the screencap doesn't make sense XD.. This season is 6 days long
People weren't even complaining in the first day, they were actually saying that the season is decent
who pinged me
which is precisely why im convinced by sadik's conversation with this "pro"
pro racer?
no matter what season it is, there are at least a dozen complaints on discord
i never seen a pro racer here on top 10 lb tbh XD
I've never even heard of "Sadik", what kind of pro is he?
idk on other platforms
he's not the pro, he's the one who called them out
is your reading comprehension that bad?
Yeah, no, miss me
Fancy town
since you've known about it all along
the screenshot is so fake XD
Dude, are you so braindead as to think that's true even when facts were presented to you?
I told you that you could drop points too in the first day
you literally just admitted to trying to cover it up @ivory frost
But starting at higher ratings
ya bloody half wit mong
Die
🍿
We got a live 1 bois
if that isn't enough for ya, I bet you use that $200 hack as well
yea you definitely sound like the type to use a $200 hack
you've got some mental issues you need to go over with your therapist
oh wait im sorry you probably dont have enough money to see a therapist
probably spent it all on that $200 hack
🤔
probably your life savings from your CNY red envelope
im surprised you are
Toaster bath
Commit socket fork
Please do
I just don't understand why people like you think they deserve to be #1 in every season @ivory frost
pls be nice guys 😃
I managed to beat the godmode vlf
forget what happened be nice 😃
Ya still with me @ivory frost
Alright, @cursive iris has been warned for 'Posted a link'.
After receiving complains against this hacker so we have kicked him out from our club.
It was disgrace of our name. We are hard working club so we kicked him although he had great time beats in every event.
There's no space in our club for Hackers.
I didn't say I'm top 1
When is the new update dropping?
you act so entitled you think you deserve to be #1
@midnight barn Do not post them every where
And if I ever will it's because of my own merit
@lofty sandal sorry guys just telling everyone about this hacker
this is the point where the cops usually say get a lawyer
How do u know he is bribing
How am I digging a hole for myself?
??
This is finally 3900
No credits
Also acceleration
@ivory frost we know you're one of them. hush now lad
Should be 80 or above
Don't call me lad you absolute half wit
You got a trade mark on that insult?
What other surprises do you offer?
Nah, but at least I know what it means
Doubt someone who hasn't graduated high school yet knows what it means.
@ivory frost plz check ur personal chat?? I sent u a messag
<@&469459051105878016> do us a favour and ban this cheater and briber
Dude stop.
@torpid cypress Started from a reddit post as bribing A9.
@torpid cypress This guy is thinking that we're making gameloft change seasons because we complain to them every time a new one starts
Cheater
Nice
there's record as scrolling up.
Who is cheater
You 👀
@honest crest @ivory frost
And he jumped from calling me a "briber" to "cheater"
And insisting that he weeded me out
I feel you @torpid cypress i couldnt upgrade regera further due to low on credits 😂
you're not just a briber or cheater; you're a briber, cheater and copycat
all 3
don't dig yourself a bigger hole
Also don't play the grammar card, I've probably got more english knowledge than your whole family
I sense a mental outburst coming out from you soon
English*
There's your first mistake.
Capital E for English.
And what does my family have to do with this? Are you going to say you f'd my mum next?
You're making a fool of yourself
Some 12 year old insult I sense coming?
Nah, you don't deserve leading on
No, you's right
Quality chat we have here
Done, thanks for the suggestion
No worries bro. 😅
Still doesn't change the fact he's a briber and cheater 😂
Bet he didn't even block me, @plain pumice said he blocked me yesterday because he lost a debate. Turned out he was lying.
I've played this game plenty of times, the fake block. 😂
Just get better discord
Ah, the fake "I won't bother though" continues from the fake block 😂
Lol it's so obvious you didn't block me
I'm not some dumb 12 year old kid
I've played this game plenty of times
pls stop guys
@torpid cypress what do you think about this mp season?
I like it tbh
If he did actually block me, I actually don't really care
.
It just has really poor matchmaking in my opinion
I hope gameloft added this decal (meme)
He's just some 12 year old cringy cheater and briber
At least it's not slipstream or rush
@celest swan if he did block you then you won't be able to send dirrct messages, also starting a row here isn't the best idea
After platinum 1275 rank 3 points drop after losing 😦
@faint zephyr thank Dray for bribing the devs
and from 1300 you get even 4 points drop
there would be no point drop if it wasn't for him
Slipstream is cancerous
Bruh slipstream is terrible imo
I want a Z4 or Lancer season again
bruh
Without kd is meh but with kd
Tbh I alr replaced my battery cuz A9 killed my battery so badly
Check the top post on Asphalt 9 subreddit @plain pumice
)
You've been caught out
what is happening
Slipstream is lame, it's meant as a catch up feature but half of the time the slipstream pack just gors ahead of you and you won't be able to catch them
i don't even know what that is
So what's your main account?
who got caught 👀
LOL
Incoming 3-4 images from reddit;
Sweetcomplaint such a nice name
from reddit 3
@plain pumice If you're talking with Phoenix just ignore him, he's just a salty squeaker
wait a second
what does this have to do with me though
y is the name blocked
Haven't heard that in a while, 'squeaker'
Idk, he randomly targeted me too
This is not the usual mp chat I see
Probably to protect that person’s identity??? @stray patrol
But pretty interesting
because you make complaints for no reason @plain pumice
y would they protect the identity
this guy is nuts
@stray patrol apparently he didnt want to get the post removed from reddit, check his post
who took the screen shot
reddit has some policy against DOX I think @stray patrol
@oak fog @stray patrol
@oak fog tell us who it was
We need @narrow pasture to investigate, he's the pro on this
He called out pros getting free tokens and cars a couple of days ago, no one believed him
I mean it’s obvious lol
that's the least of the problems this game has
well supersonic is a utuber so that would make sense
main what?
Supersonic isn't a pro, he's part of the youtuber program
I feel like nobody deserves free cars
Don't act dumb @plain pumice
Nor free tokens and etc
you've been caught
So what they are in the Program
u're getting boring got more important things to do
Dosent mean Gameloft can spoil them like spoilt kids
yea go on delete your account
that sure is some more important thing to do
cover up your tracks
😂
I will be here for long time unless I get banned from this server)
who got blocked 👀
Say Chinese words
btw
And deniss will grant u ur ban hammer
accusing people directly
with no actual proof
I can get yr account deleted for this
Yea @agile torrent I agree no one deserve free tokens or cars. Even if they are YouTubers and spend a lot of time on the game - they get money they deserve anyway from YouTube ads etc
so mind ur words kid
And I'll get the FBI on you for bribery @plain pumice
Mind your door lad
FBI's gonna come knock it down
u can get it , if they don't mind coming to Greece for someone who didn't even do anything
I'm so confused
@agile torrent GL isn't spoiling them, they're giving them cars for the sole reason of sponsoring their game
You can get my account deleted too, your dad works at Discord right?
And making content for the official Asphalt channel
Can someone please help me?
My mum works at the worldwide internet company, she'll get your internet deleted @plain pumice
k
Of stage 13,14,15,16
@solid skiff @plain pumice can give you tips on bribery and how to get Gameloft to give them to you for free
If anything they should get a free try of Max cars
😅
@plain pumice ?
Yeah it takes a while
true x'D !
btw, this mp sucks
I'm not even going to waist my time to get the best loot
I mean, 150 races, are you mad !?
Yes I am mad 😡
Alright, @dapper thorn has been warned for 'Bad word usage'.
and on MP voting, a lot of people like it, but most are bad players x'D
so that they can try to get LEGEND bcs they like don't lose points
like the full ahead series
i hate this mp season +4 and -4 after 1300 points for wining and losing sometimes u get only +3
If it wasn't for the bribers, you wouldn't lose points
the top 50 are then also no-lifers* x"D !?
Na they just got in early and bribed Gameloft to lock it off @somber fern
I wish we just have normal mp bakcl ike the good ol days* x'D !
@celest swan still, 150 races
Guys i need to blueprints for 3 stars regera...i have 7k tokens, should i buy packs to get my acura 4 stars?
2
how mutch do you need more ?!
not worth
@earnest sable you can get 2 regera bps for free easily
Ask @plain pumice he will help you bribe the devs into giving them to you for free
I love you all
....
He can teach you to become a master briber
I'm not even joking lol
He bribed the devs to change the MP points system
Bribe?
played us all, even me.
Just get a club rewards
idk even trash game is
I mean 2 stars regera is pretty good
Wgos club done 14 stage?
no need really for 3*
did you unlock the chiron?
owell, gl m8, cya all ^^ !!
For 3*
I need 2 to 3*
5 stars chiron for me
damn that's insane
I can get 3 from the event
just use the Chiron instead, way better than the regera
I'm not even going to bother unlocking the regera this time round
But that time is hard.
already got the Chiron
I know but 3 fuels only
ads 😄
20min ads
Alright, @celest swan has been warned for 'Bad word usage'.
U need 16 ads to fully refuelling Chiron/regera
😂😂
Ok
16 ads???
20min no way
Wasim
Wth
@wasim how many bps u need?
For what?
Well like I said, time flies when you're watching youtube and put put your ads to the side @agile torrent
Regera
2 for 3 stars
Lmao times dosent fly for me
@celest swan why were you warned? Lol
Same here wasim i need 2bps for 3
time flies right by me, i swear it was 2016 last week
Oof
i said dubba-u-t-f @vital jungle
😂
Foxtrot uniform charlie kilo
Wasim have ur club done stage 14?
Where can i get stage 14 bps?
And that club is now closed
Damn
I don't know where else u can get it
I need bps from the sarthe stage
why dont you just buy a regera pack @earnest sable
Stage?
if your only 2 away
?
nah i do, im just not even bothering unlocking the regera
Man what ever u are smoking, it aint do8ng u no good
after i got the chiron i was pretty happy
@vital jungle a lot of people get turned off by the unfair matchmaking and stop playing ....its normal in MP
didnt see a point in getting regera
thank god i didnt try get the regera lol
no packs.. seems ridiculous
how does gameloft expect anyone to unlock it
U can get a 4* regera from the event though if you have the supporting cars
yea i dont have the apollo
its NOT free....you have to spend a lot o tokens and time to get those cars lol
and only a 3* sarthe
ive only got about 20-30 regera bps
I didn't give sin R1 much of a concern earlier.
clubs cancer so i dont get much bps from club events
Oof
Bought 16 prints in this event and unlocked it yesterday
I left doing vencer after 3*
Unlocked what?
im saving up all my tokens to get max star chiron next time it comes out
Apollo I have 3*
so far its 3* chiron
Ok
Unlocked sin R1
😍
Woow
Sinr1 had packs?
No
i think i need at least 16k, maybe 32k
From TC I mean
keep your cool nollan XD
U should have maxed it
It feels good to beat "close to maxed chirons" with my 3*
have you met a regera yet?
Yep
Not good for mp?
That's A max Chiron with only 3-4 import away
I met a couple hackers in lykan too, beat'em All
Max chiron is almost 5k right?
Just try and improve your timing this season and you'll do good lmao
4755
high accel cars are better in duel, just block your enemy XD
Oh ok
I noticed it's no kd season
Block wont work
Good god! So I got matched with a maxed chiron, woahhh
at the start of the race use perfect nitro to block them XD. Someone did that to me so i learned from him
@vivid tendon :(
yes gold lmao
Haha
Flex time....;-)
@earnest sable mine Bugatti and regera both better than You Bruhh😊
@subtle mason I hate that ramp :/
30million credits
Hurting.my feelings
Now history?
New icon of A9 out
Have not sewn it
So new update coming again 🤔
@solid skiff i wish i could bro
@solid skiff go to pak royalz....we can help you
Just 7 bps :(
@earnest sable they don't have stage 13,14,15,16 bps
Big oof
Ok sorry man
No
Ok
Can get in any day if want too
They arw helping
10 or more k a day is nuts
@solid skiff sure?
They helped me to get 20 bps few minutes ago
Noicee
Yes @oblique vale
Who?
Aloha Android
Welcome bro
Finally....
Oh do they still help?
Now closed sorry
Scg?
Yes. Against a Huayra BC
@deft heart congrats u finally Made it
What do u mean closed?
I mean clubs have been deleted now
Can i talk to tje members?
That's what i meant
Oh
Sure talk if can help still @earnest sable
Honestly I thought I wasn't gonna make it earlier on when I was using my VLF.
I keep losing 3 damn points to hackers
Especially when I met a TWL member 3 times in a short amount of time; one with the Trion, other two with the Regera
Oof
Man, I got to make a vid about it already.
@earnest sable yeah true
Because I actually ended up beating them in all 3 instances.
Vlf can compete with many s cars
Yes, but surely not with Regera and Trion, was it?
I am only lucky to win all 3 of those just because the driver was probably less skilled than me
In one instance, I actually wrecked my car during a ramp jump and only manage to catch up because they got caught up in a section.
Cool))
Aids
this season in a nutshell : spam your best car and pray for no physics glitch and/or acceleration hacker
Alright, @gilded terrace has been warned for 'Bad word usage'.
@gilded terrace c'est tout le temps comme ça en Legende , oublie les centenario,icona et Fxxk , tu va croiser que des chiron/fenyr/regera
"English, please."
Oof
Advice: Don’t listen to people who use “uwu” or “owo”
That vulcan looks like a falling leaf
alahu akbar
C'est pas la chiron en soit qui me pose problème, mais le fait que le mm soit fait comme ça
🇬🇧 lish pls
It's not the chiron in itself that poses me a problem, but the fact that the mm is done like that
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