Make the next boss strike lineup difficulty the same for lvls 51-55 and 56 (51-55 difficulty at 56)

[night spade]

Which is good, he needed a diet but even on said diet he needs to eat

[dapper hornet]

no, that was Iker, and he framed me for it

[night spade]

You do know the feeder records

And that’s not Iker

[dapper hornet]

not me either, I don't eat kibble

[night spade]

It wasn’t a young, skinny trembling cat

[night spade]

Camera footage shows otherwise

[dapper hornet]

camera footage was edited

you can do a lot in post nowdays

[night spade]

This is you

It’s not healthy to cope this much past midnight

[vague nova]

That's a beautiful set of emoji's.

[dapper hornet]

nah, I didn't intake even a single puff of copium

[slender cipher]

You did take a lot of puffs of catnip though

[night spade]

[slender cipher]

I thought he could control himself, I was mistaken

Sorry Wihvur

[night spade]

Why are you also awake

Go cuddle up with your wife or something

[slender cipher]

I am, sickness kept me awake

She's asleep and soon so will I

[dapper hornet]

no

[cobalt garden]

Late night cooking with both da cats

He knocked over his scratching post

[wheat flax]

are we officially off topic now?

[night spade]

Always has been off topic unless a big discussion resurfaces

[paper idol]

Just to keep the thread alive💀

[mossy prawn]

cmon guys were almost at 4k comments

[paper idol]

Someone start a ragebait💀

[dapper hornet]

Welcome to DG 2

[echo grotto]

Not even ragebait this suggestion is pretty well received based on the responses. Already at 105 likes to 10 dislikes

Would be cool for them to respond soon enough to this idea

[paper idol]

I mean its a reasonable suggestion. We deffo need some game balance adjustments

[dapper hornet]

It's not ragebait, it's post bad decision clarity

[paper idol]

Somethings are way too hard/way too easy

There is no inbetween

[dapper hornet]

Should have stayed at 55, didn't, and now you want easy enemies AND infinite gears

[echo grotto]

Id agree if there were more disagreements like most bad suggestions but considering the high ratings it appears youre in the vast minority

[dapper hornet]

Let's just take the strategy right out of the game, make it nice and easy

[dapper hornet]

Because a lot of people made a bad decision, and this bails them out

They should stick it out and make better decisions in the future

[paper idol]

Nah I want challenging enemies

But the right challenge - that doesn’t involve all rng

[dapper hornet]

Lvl55 enemies with ET and infinite gears

Yeah, challenging, sure...

[paper idol]

I am not saying that lol.

[dapper hornet]

That's what the thread is

[echo grotto]

I understand not simply implementing stuff when it's decisive, but with this much overwhelming reaction you cant just ignore 90% of the player base

[paper idol]

Thread is a suggestion.

Not something that will be implemented as is. Simply for the devs to take notice and make their own decisions… lmfao they ain’t toddlers or iidiots

[echo grotto]

Not implementing something 80-90% of the playerbase wants is how you hurt a game

[dapper hornet]

90% of the player base made a bad decision in a strategy game, maybe they'll learn and make better decisions next time

[mossy prawn]

I don’t think that the strategy of the game should be hampering your level lol

that’s a bit much to say

this games strategy should come from “what units can I use to tackle this challenge”

[dapper hornet]

That's fine to believe, but using game systems to your advantage is part of strategy

Blame the design if you want

[mossy prawn]

i do agree that nothing should change for this strike; but madrona needs to work on unit balancing to open up new possibilities

[dapper hornet]

Then we agree

[mossy prawn]

that doesn’t mean the system you’re using is of good design

[mossy prawn]

i’m at 55

[echo grotto]

Could always bump up the points for 56 waves to reflect the actual increase in time clears

[dapper hornet]

It's not good design, but strategy is about using the available options in the most viable method

[echo grotto]

Harder enemies but the points then reflect you doing it the hard way

[mossy prawn]

they’re already higher

[echo grotto]

You are well aware the increase doesnt actually reflect the increase in clears

[mossy prawn]

you have to think from madronas perspective on “how can this problem be changed”. the biggest problem i see with this suggestion is that there hasn’t been a solution proposed that I think madrona would adopt

[echo grotto]

Otherwise most people would go to 56

[dapper hornet]

Infinite gears is worth something

[paper idol]

By 5%… its not reflective of the difficulty change

[echo grotto]

If it was you'd go to 56

[paper idol]

There should be a positive correlation between difficulty, losses and points gained

[mossy prawn]

plenty have gone to 56 because they believe that prestige and gears are worth more than an inflated BS score

which is the benefit to 55

i’m someone who cares about my BS score and doesn’t need prestige or the gears

not everyone plays the same

[dapper hornet]

It is, but i have more units than most, I don't need infinite gears as much as the average player

[paper idol]

Its simple ffucking maths… like how restarted do you have to be? Higher difficulty = more points = heavier losses

https://tenor.com/view/blackman-downsyndrome-gif-7692458934598333563

[echo grotto]

So basically the point yall make is its fine because even though its flawed we should be able to take advantage of it as it was already existing?

[dapper hornet]

The system isn't great, but making everyone fight lvl55 enemies isn't a solution to the bad design

[paper idol]

I think we all agree on that

[paper idol]

But its a better solution then doing NOTHING.

[echo grotto]

By that logic then lets let guild weighting affect the individual leaderboard since it was part of the original game and despite being flawed it is a strategy to take advantage of

[dapper hornet]

I didn't say the system was good, but maximizing efficiency in a system is part of strategy

[paper idol]

Literal clowns…

[mossy prawn]

We’re taking advantage of a system in the game. I’ve already said that things should change, but as it stands this is how the game is

[paper idol]

Hence the SUGGESTION. To change it

[mossy prawn]

it’s the same with people who talked about staying at level 15 with shredders and wimps or 35 with FA

[paper idol]

How or why or when is up to the devs

[dapper hornet]

Every strategy game at the comp lvl is about taking advantage of the system to squeeze out super small gains

All of them

[echo grotto]

Tbh if they wanna be able to take advantage of the system thats fine. Those that take advantage of the guild weighting system on the individual leaderboards will follow the same logic then so both are fine

Strategy

[mossy prawn]

Why isn’t anyone this outraged about Evil corp playing in a 20 person guild and inflating their individual scores?

[echo grotto]

People have been complaining

[mossy prawn]

not to this extent

[echo grotto]

Thats why they were advocating for removal of weighting removed from the individual leaderboard

[mossy prawn]

this is at 4k comments

[dapper hornet]

I want it all to change, but I fully support using it to your best advantage while it's here

[night spade]

Almost there boys

[dapper hornet]

I support changing the system, but the old scores should be kept as it and reward those who optimized for the system as is

[night spade]

Quick say something offensive

[echo grotto]

This is at 30 less likes than this one most people have agreed with this

[paper idol]

Its another change that NEEDS to happen

Also should be a “donation leaderboard”

[echo grotto]

Actually based

[paper idol]

Certain p2w whales inflate their scores by chugging down concrete/lumber

[mossy prawn]

I think you’re putting too much stock into individual point gain. 55 is solely for BS points and nothing else. I’m missing out on prestige stocking and ranking up key units like Treb and ET. I also can’t rank up ANYTHING rn because i’ll go over on XP

[paper idol]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-gif-18431407

[night spade]

Congratulations on being message 4k

[paper idol]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-gif-21238437

[mossy prawn]

LETS GO

MR 4K

[night spade]

And your prize is getting forcefully pushed to level 56

[mossy prawn]

[jolly crest]

Oh I thought we decided we were done arguing about this

[echo grotto]

This is a suggestion post

[wheat flax]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-meep-low-cortisol-dance-chibi-gif-17107758709618840273

[dapper hornet]

No, this is DG 2

[mossy prawn]

theres 3 people actually debating, 1 person malding

[night spade]

Then why is some1else in here?

[mossy prawn]

let’s get everyone onto Boom bus tonight and debate it LIVE!!!

[dapper hornet]

Fair point

[dapper hornet]

[night spade]

Tonight*
-# quite literally midnight for me

[echo grotto]

Regardless of how people feel I think we can all agree having it brought up before the strike whether its changed or not would be nice

[paper idol]

Literally only to piss off people. Till I get leashed against

[night spade]

You enjoy getting leashed this much?

There’s easier ways to get that to happen, you know that right?

[wheat flax]

insane self plug

[jolly crest]

“You have buyers remorse about 56” nah I just see this suggestion as an opportunity to make some people angry and that’s just purely funny

[wheat flax]

how could you have buyers remorse when you have

[mossy prawn]

i am the plug man

[jolly crest]

Hmm good point

[mossy prawn]

if there’s a chance to plug i will take it

[wheat flax]

https://tenor.com/view/sharkboy-and-lava-girl-mr-electric-villain-movie-big-head-gif-16427374

[paper idol]

You would be suprised

[night spade]

I’ll ask Yugami if that holds any merits

[echo grotto]

I see it as an opportunity to get the devs aware of it, and to some extent...reverse psychology

[night spade]

Not really, I’ve seen worse cases

[dapper hornet]

[jolly crest]

I derive no benefit from 55s being forced to 56. It would just be funny

[paper idol]

Don’t know if I should laugh or cry

[echo grotto]

Tbh if this happened id laugh so hard

[night spade]

Ask the person who leashes you what they prefer

[echo grotto]

We are snacers 🗣️

[dapper hornet]

Based on yesterday, I think it's @dense sonnet

He's the one that restrained him last

[night spade]

Fish seems like the type of guy who’d enjoy tears

[dapper hornet]

True

[paper idol]

Lmfaooo

[night spade]

So I guess Some1else it’s crying that you should be doing

[paper idol]

How tf do you know sshit like this

[mossy prawn]

Still waiting on fish to poach me

[paper idol]

Fish is literally the bane of my ragebaiting

[jolly crest]

Probably spying on us again

[paper idol]

You know the day I leave MM will be because of him💀

[night spade]

He’s an outside cat or raccoon and likes to stare through windows that are left open

[echo grotto]

Already done you just dont know it yet

[paper idol]

** if I leave MM ever

[paper idol]

Nah he is waiting to get hooked💀

[mossy prawn]

leave MM and join BTN

[echo grotto]

You right

[paper idol]

https://tenor.com/view/kissing-a-fish-gordon-ramsay-uncharted-fishing-i-caught-a-fish-gif-23345245

[night spade]

Nah that’s Fish, Spartan isn’t a fish

[silk glen]

wheres @vestal fiber, we need her to subdue some1else

[vestal fiber]

Huh

[silk glen]

ur arch enemy is here

not leashed

[jolly crest]

Why start drama

[vestal fiber]

i dont really know what the context is here but i dont got any enemies nor do i want to start conflicts for no reasons, and im not some sort of dommy mommy to subdue/leash people or whatever you meant with that

[silk glen]

#1478077816536043521 message

thought u guys were pokemon rivals or smthing

[vestal fiber]

that was the first time i interacted with the person

[paper idol]

There is literal no drama between me and her💀🤡

[paper idol]

It was a joke💀💀🤣

[dapper hornet]

Leaky system, the info was drip fed

[paper idol]

Honestly kinda cringe tho that you guys know sshit like this💀

[dapper hornet]

You seriously didn't catch on?

Read it again a few times

Missed the pun

[echo grotto]

I just now got it

[dapper hornet]

About time

[paper idol]

Ofc I got it. Thats besides the point

[dapper hornet]

I don't have any info in MM, lmao

[echo grotto]

No need to worry lol only insider info they know of is Brio

As we know of "kittenbreaker" thats going on in HSC which still confuses me

[paper idol]

Brio is feeding everyone frags except himself💀🤣

[echo grotto]

Brio v Spartanbreaker: Dawn of justice

[paper idol]

New fanfic

[dapper hornet]

Sadly started in PWar, but the same people are pushing it

[echo grotto]

Time to do what you do best

[paper idol]

Ragebait?🤣

[echo grotto]

No making the fanfic stories

[paper idol]

Its a glorified method of ragebaiting

Upset a few🤣

[echo grotto]

Id be hard pressed to find people offended by peak fanfiction besides maybe 1 person

@copper topaz

^not him

[copper topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[dapper hornet]

He was the star of the story though

[echo grotto]

He didnt wanna be the star unfortunately

[paper idol]

The big bad😈

[dapper hornet]

Every story needs a villain

[dense sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-be-profen-ibuprofen-gif-6560266553822228043

[jolly crest]

Some1 you can make the stories, ignore any fish directives otherwise

Just don’t be too obtuse

[umbral socket]

4k

[echo grotto]

@paper idol you heard him

[dapper hornet]

Arch changed my name

[night spade]

???

That was me

[dapper hornet]

Oh

[night spade]

[dapper hornet]

Same outcome, I didn't have a say

[night spade]

Don’t accuse my gf of stuff I do

[dapper hornet]

She has changed my name, that was just a different time

[night spade]

Oh I’m sure she has

[dapper hornet]

You were going to make people here think I picked that name

[night spade]

She is just as much of a menace

Purrr for us Kittenbreaker

[dapper hornet]

No

[night spade]

You will

[dapper hornet]

To both purring and that name

I don't think i'm doing a drop luck bet again

[night spade]

Not even for a double drop

Or a first kill Phalanx

[dapper hornet]

I could just good luck regardless

[night spade]

Or make a deal

It worked last time

Just imagine how much salt you’d get from the fox

[dapper hornet]

If only we knew each other during the Destiny times I was playing

She would have hated how lucky I was

[graceful wren]

Who’s winning today

[umbral socket]

I win everyday no matter what

[echo grotto]

Still 106 to 10 so I dont think theres any doubt about it lol

[graceful wren]

And whose side are YOU on?

[echo grotto]

Who do you think made the suggestion?

[graceful wren]

Probably the guy with the OP tag, but he’s not here rn so there’s literally no way of knowing

[echo grotto]

[graceful wren]

Guess it’s a mystery

[echo grotto]

[slender cipher]

[hollow storm]

4,000 messages in one thread is crazy

if we are talking about a competitive edge, then those who overlooked this, skill issue.

but this line of events: 56, a couple of weeks, THEN BS is such an handicap for the (mostly) F2P. not only it took them most of the time since the lvl cap just to reach 56, they did not have enough time to prep. But if we are talking about P2W complaining about lowering this (fair play if this gets considered, I'll take every advantage id like) its simply a strat for BS, just like lowering members to increase multipliers or using real money to convert to points, its a method, its not against ToS, its fair.

[cobalt garden]

https://tenor.com/view/winston-cat-gif-11109008975241076039

look at this winston gif

[misty inlet]

What about raising the level cap to 59? More unlocks and stability imo.

[misty gull]

prolly a little too late for that

i think the most realistic option is just to lower TF2 units uncap to 56

that way we don't have to level up all the way to 60 (if they did unlock it), plus we don't get the insane dreadnought so soon after unlocking naval cap

[quasi bramble]

also between now and 59, the only unlocks are 15 pop, 3 more land expansions, and Railgun Tech

[sacred crown]

4000 messages to just make the point lvl 56 kinda sucks composition wise to deal with elite sws

[umbral socket]

Lower plasma to 56

[misty gull]

bro like

why was Z2 giving these backline snipers the dookiest stats ever

it doesn't even matter if they are good

cuz they have less than 300 HP

like how can you introduce a level 59 unit knowing full well the difficulty of level 51+ enemies

and genuinelly think "oh yeah 300 hp is a good number"

[quasi bramble]

Just make Pelican’s Shrapnel Bomb deal full damage in a cross pattern at 56

Totally good idea

That will solve all problems with the game

[jolly crest]

Gun truck

[silk glen]

Truck Gun

[misty gull]

ok honestly tho

while the pelican's bomb can be kinda annoying when it misses more than once

lets give the brimstone/rocket truck triple strike attack the same treatment

where its a 75% chance to hit the center

rather than 50%

it will feel SO much better to use

[dapper hornet]

That is probably the best outcome, the worst issue in BS 2 will be cold damage and that Chunook from hell

Even at 55, you STILL have to suffer from the chunook deleting your units

No AA is going to be the bane of BS 2, and maybe BS 3

[graceful wren]

https://tenor.com/view/winston-winton-overwatch-overwatch-winston-gif-16066368112261347727

[late moth]

The thing is, some battles at level 55 have no Chunooks for BS number 13, whereas at level 56 there is at least one per battle. If the BS copies the battles from the 13th, and we have the waves from level 55, this will allow us to avoid battles where there are Chunooks if our army can't keep up

[dapper hornet]

barring challenge rounds, both have exactly 13 chunooks spread throughout the 11 battles

battle 4 has two chunooks at 55, one at 56

battle 5 has two chuooks at 55, one at 56

[scarlet hatch]

are there formations with no chunooks at 55

[late moth]

Yes

[dapper hornet]

battle 6 hasa two chunooks at 55, 1 at 56

[scarlet hatch]

at low/casual end ppl will just roll for the no chunook fight at 55 tho

if that is done it will make weak players do much better at 55

[dapper hornet]

yes, 55 has more double chunook and no chunook fights

[late moth]

Two battles are always better than zero. Especially since, with the new button to restart a battle, it would be quick to restart until you come across one of the two battles that don't have Chunooks

[dapper hornet]

56 has less double chunook fights

[scarlet hatch]

lets change that and make all fights 1 chunook for 55 too

[dapper hornet]

still takes more time to reset for those no chunook picks

infinite gears through NH is also massive for repairs

plus ETs

[scarlet hatch]

if ppl are doing heavier mauler, and have more time than prep, they'll 100% do better at 55

[dapper hornet]

a casual can go to one of multiple double chunook 55 formations and still get cleaned out

[scarlet hatch]

then again, anyone who plans to do that probably over prepped already

[dapper hornet]

they'll do 8% better, but spend way more time post BS to repair everything

[scarlet hatch]

like leaderboard prep kind

[dapper hornet]

people that picked 55 are losing out on infinite steel and gears, ETs, prestige star stocking, and a naval rank

that kind of planned compromise should have a reward in a strategy game

[scarlet hatch]

the trade off is big enough that I would go to 56 even without frags

and I will ask anyone else to do the same unless its like 2 weeks to bs

[dapper hornet]

the trade off is pretty significant

it's an 8% boost, everyone has to decide what that's worth to them

most people should just go to 56 for the infinite gears and future progress

[scarlet hatch]

hmm I can agree with that

I still think chunooks can be toned down to the lv50 ver. for both brackets just for this bs, so the frag advantage is not THAT overwhelming

[dapper hornet]

I would be fine with that, or uncapped TF2 for the demo

[scarlet hatch]

hmm uncapped tf2 only benefits p2w ngl

id rather chunooks get a shave

[dapper hornet]

Lvl50 chunooks are still almost just as difficult to handle

Still 2-3 hits

[scarlet hatch]

but is a lot more forgiving to 2 shot

[dapper hornet]

Slightly more forgiving, yeah

That's about it

[scarlet hatch]

and its not a gut nerf that makes it a non threat

so 50 is very fair

like it is still the biggest threat on the board

[dapper hornet]

I'm fine with that

[scarlet hatch]

me too, maybe that should've been the suggestion from the start, or it was another thread that got lost

[dapper hornet]

I would have supported that one

[elfin heart]

You’re free to fight those if you want, your maulers will just take 450 damage from environmental alone and have a 10x higher chance to die because both chunookless fights are in the fire area

[elfin heart]

It’s in the fire zone, those fights are unplayable anyways because your maulers just die from fire environmental

The “55 has fights with no chunook!” Is a completely worthless argument

[silk glen]

whats the fire zone

[scarlet hatch]

is there fire zone for bs13, or are all non-fire fights chunook fights

[night spade]

Why are we still talking about this?

[silk glen]

the war never ends

[night spade]

We did it, we got 4k messages

[silk glen]

https://tenor.com/view/war-never-changes-war-fallout-soldier-run-gif-16498934

[night spade]

https://tenor.com/view/ferris-bueller-gif-18271067

[scarlet hatch]

Ive settled on nerf chunooks instead (to lv50 ver.)

[silk glen]

ive settled on do nothing (give me more infected z3)

[night spade]

Also why were some here awake

Istg some people have no jobs

[scarlet hatch]

I need ppl to talk to me while Im commuting home

[silk glen]

or maybe we just have diff timezones?

[scarlet hatch]

Id go mad otherwise

[silk glen]

[elfin heart]

Fire environmental area, all units take 12 fire damage per turn (maulers get shredded there)

[silk glen]

thats diff from the cold dot environmental?

[elfin heart]

Yea

[silk glen]

💀

[elfin heart]

It’s the cave area

[silk glen]

riperoni

[scarlet hatch]

yeah later shrow have both fire and ice

Shrow is the elemental wolf

[elfin heart]

Both

[night spade]

I know you do, but Spartan is -7 from me so him talking at 12pm my time is him being awake at 5am and he doesn’t wake up around that time

[scarlet hatch]

I see

[elfin heart]

BS13 has a fire area, both chunookless fights are in the fire area

[silk glen]

so Spartan is a vampire confirmed?

no sleep for the wicked

[night spade]

Hikari isn’t much better

[silk glen]

[elfin heart]

Utterly worthless argument because your maulers take more damage from environmental than the chunook

[night spade]

Unless she is taking my sleep schedule

[elfin heart]

I just woke up

[scarlet hatch]

I do wake up at 5

[night spade]

So my sleep schedule

I wake up at 6

[elfin heart]

Gonna go back to sleep soon (hopefully)

[silk glen]

i forgot maulers are infected and they take even more dmg

[elfin heart]

Yea

15/turn

[silk glen]

cooked

[elfin heart]

Yep

Chunookless btw

[silk glen]

thats why we need to reduce maulers hp

by 250

guys plz

[scarlet hatch]

ok I think genuinely the best solution is to tone down chunook a bit

[silk glen]

we cant have the f2p win

[scarlet hatch]

so its not as much a frag check as it is now

[silk glen]

then u give me ur dog

[night spade]

Only 250? Make them 1 HP but increase their damage by 1000%

[silk glen]

so we're even

[scarlet hatch]

The dog is me

[silk glen]

glass artillery (it disintegrates upon recoil)

[elfin heart]

Time to bring it to the chunookless fights to avoid getting hit

[scarlet hatch]

oi @silk glen tell Glutenfree to not eat my sov navy

[night spade]

I mean some people here hate the fact this game has strategy, so let’s remove it entirely by all being forced to have the exact same opening move forever

[scarlet hatch]

not for GF consumption

[silk glen]

i dont take orders from fraggers

[night spade]

No matter what you have as an army, a 1HP god kitty will always be the ultimate start to any battle

[silk glen]

remove the strategy in strategy games

what do we get

[night spade]

Games

Unlimited games

-# but no bacon

[elfin heart]

BS is now determined by who pays more for donations

[silk glen]

[silk glen]

donation leaderboard is just who has more buck (from their banks)

[night spade]

Hey that was my suggestion on Milky’s suggestion

Remove the battle from battle nations during boss strike

[elfin heart]

[night spade]

Finally we get fair play

[scarlet hatch]

HSC no longer gets the fight button

then its fair

[night spade]

Just make the T10 something bad

None of us are going #1 if the T10 is

[scarlet hatch]

is the aero bike bad?

[silk glen]

this is its 2nd attack

at r7

r7 btw

this is its 1st attack

[scarlet hatch]

it looks very good ngl, buffed aero jetpack trooper

[silk glen]

its not

its not good

💀

thats at r7

it's a t10 btw

also it has 1 ammo and 7 turn reload, and 2 ammo and 5 round reload, for its 1 and 2nd attack respectively

[night spade]

“Buffed” Aero Jetpack Trooper

That implies the Aero Jetpack Trooper can be saved

[silk glen]

aero jetpack does more dmg than it

[night spade]

That as well

[silk glen]

u know its cooked when aero jetpack outdmgs u

also 930k for r9

is an evil thing

[night spade]

I mean it does okay damage, just not when you have as much cooldown as the RT and are just as tanky

Yes please game, I’d love an even worse RT

[silk glen]

no dmg and no ammo

fantastic combo

thank you, give me more pls

[night spade]

Not just that by the way

It also gets hit by both AA and ground attacks

So you can even place it behind to be artillery because most AA is indirect

[silk glen]

💀

what a joke of a unit

[night spade]

It’s immune to this though

But those machine guns do 100% crit

[scarlet hatch]

I always wanted a jetpack in OG

it surely isnt iredeemable isnt it

[night spade]

Mediocre, useable for non competitive stuff

[scarlet hatch]

I guess thats most of BN's units

[night spade]

It gets clowned on a little more for being a promo unit (and loved by some)

[scarlet hatch]

it looks so fun to me tho big bomb

[night spade]

Kinda hard to enjoy it when a better version got released later and makes the Aero Bike look even worse

Why settle for those 2 when the A-Grav is right there

[timid topaz]

From what i can see level 56 is unlikely to help you much for the boss strike even if you can prestige several times

[karmic elk]

Radio tech tech

[scarlet hatch]

The get radio tech, kill AS and get a ranged frag in one month tech

[timid topaz]

That takes about 5 prestiges for your first and then 3 after when he will die every single attemp

Not even mentioning the repairs

[karmic elk]

lol yeah

I think if you don’t have snakes F2P with trebs and radio tech isn’t even doable

Or it might be 8% idk

[timid topaz]

It’s doable apparantly
Emphasis on doable

[karmic elk]

I’ve been told 8% but also I’ve seen 2 guys do it for 12 hours each and not beat it so

[timid topaz]

Level 56 adds little in the way of units, madrona shouod make sure future boss strike thresholds make sense with units aquired

Especially if it’s a cold strike

[karmic elk]

I mean I agree with you

But I don’t really care if it’s level 55 or 56 boss strike either way at this point

[quasi bramble]

Who knows, maybe its another Treb situation and the percentage is greatly exaggerated

[vague nova]

I quit before the Grav tank was introduced, Had the Jetpacker, didn't nab the Bike.

Just a meta for it's time (like most things) that inevitably was steam rolled / made obsolete by better units later on.

[elfin heart]

Wdym

Infinite heavier tanks?

[silk glen]

infinite gears helps

[timid topaz]

The gear supply for max levels is already pretty good

[karmic elk]

Realistically ur making like 100 heaviers max

If you try really hard

[elfin heart]

In comparison to infinite, no not really

[karmic elk]

Since level 56

[timid topaz]

AC and AS provide about 50 a week and i’m not sure how useful heaviers will be

[elfin heart]

Without NH your income is maybe 15 per day, with NH infinite

[elfin heart]

?

The main unit that’s dying are heaviers

[night spade]

Nah heavier is useless

Never used in the game ever

[echo grotto]

The difference between the two is lvl 55 has lvl 50 chunooks while lvl 56 has lvl 60 chunooks which are the same difficulty as the ones on new haven

[timid topaz]

Considering the sniping by artillery and chunooks i’m not so sure

[elfin heart]

Trust me, your frontline dies the most

Mauler deaths are rare at 55 and 56

[timid topaz]

I never used heaviers for last strike funnily enough

[echo grotto]

Hopefully lots of losses all around for everyone

[night spade]

Yeah all Boss Strikes will be like the first one

Definitely

[elfin heart]

Oh no a whole extra 40 damage and HP

[timid topaz]

Fair

[elfin heart]

That difference makes 55 completely lossless and 56 every fight is a wipe

[jagged sonnet]

I might be crazy

[night spade]

You are

[jagged sonnet]

But the alpha trucks are more annoying to me than the Chunooks

[elfin heart]

I agree tbh

[karmic elk]

Use brute

@jagged sonnet

Use brute

[timid topaz]

Wait how do you know which of shrow’s Boss strikes it’s going to be ?

[elfin heart]

People are way overblowing the level 50 vs level 60 chunook thing

[karmic elk]

@jagged sonnet

Brute Strat

[jagged sonnet]

Brute Strat

[elfin heart]

They’re basically all the same

[karmic elk]

Worked really good for 30 mins

[jagged sonnet]

Then your repair bay is clogged for 10 hours

[night spade]

So did my light tank strat

[dense sonnet]

Hopefully it’s the navy one

[elfin heart]

[echo grotto]

[elfin heart]

We about to get 10 bugs involving refight button

[karmic elk]

30 mins is a LONG TIME

Some might even say too long

[jagged sonnet]

Depends on the activity

[night spade]

Time to get out the land boats because the code is f*cked somehow

And everyone is racing to T15 because of it

[elfin heart]

[dense sonnet]

New way to get boats on land?

[elfin heart]

I could 100% see it

[echo grotto]

We are snacers 🗣️

[silk glen]

clear lossless by bringing the m10s to land

[elfin heart]

Hell yeah, f*ck the 55 vs 56 debate new debate is how fast land boats are

[silk glen]

we're blowing shrow off the water (im bringing the boats in)

[jagged sonnet]

We carry the flame 🗣️

[echo grotto]

[night spade]

BS2 formations:

🇽 ❌ ❌ 🇽

[silk glen]

talk about board clear

[dense sonnet]

I don’t think the raptors or subs are needed

[silk glen]

icbms inbound

[dense sonnet]

Throw some bouys in

[night spade]

Checker and diagonal one way

[echo grotto]

Groupers >> subs

[night spade]

Clears more sometimes than M-10

[silk glen]

land units boutta take 20 million turns to kill a buoy

[dense sonnet]

The m10 splash will be good enough

[silk glen]

[night spade]

Oh right

If we get this level 56 is going to be so much better

[silk glen]

uve heard about the maulers -250 hp, prepare for m10 -500 hp one

[night spade]

Doesn’t matter when almost none of the enemy units can target ships

[echo grotto]

Your death to MM privileges have been revoked

[silk glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772218052850352168/1402845359038005259/caption-ezgif.com-added-text_3.gif

only Drip can revoke my rights

[dapper hornet]

I'm just imagining a navy trooper critting an Alpha truck for twice it's total HP

[dapper hornet]

funny thing, that's probably not even enough to keep people away from them

[wicked anvil]

beaching an M-10 for use as an AA battery

🙏

[lime raptor]

I bet your cat tastes good with some pancakes, spring onion, cucumber & hoisin sauce

They look quite delectable

Big rabbit

[dapper hornet]

What if his cat is the true leader of THE?

-# the other cat is leading BTN

[lime raptor]

Is that like acorn fed pork

Maybe tastier, idk

[echo grotto]

Like Brio not giving up woth a pity system, I shall not give up with this suggestion

Look into this devs 🙏

[mossy prawn]

[echo grotto]

You if this change gets made

One shall seethe, and one shall gloat

[quasi bramble]

That’d also be nice to have

[jolly crest]

Leveling up is easy how did yall forget once you turned lvl55????

[echo grotto]

[jolly crest]

make the sky raptor r6 be lvl56 required

[echo grotto]

Mega based

[copper topaz]

I like you

[echo grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-damn-good-deal-good-deal-id-make-that-deal-gif-27676387

[copper topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1415119945028866050/1469476774965416192/dino_rock_anthem.gif

[wicked anvil]

the watermarks are sending me

😂

[wheat flax]

mods should lock this thread already smh

[vestal fiber]

Mods need to keep the community busy until BS so thats not happening

[night spade]

Or just not read anything in here anymore and let it die

[late moth]

As they usually do

[jolly crest]

Better idea:
players can only obtain rewards if their level is not lvl55.

[echo grotto]

Lol yeah that would be crazy

Wow 149 likes so far tho I appreciate the very positive feedback

[wheat flax]

how about no rewards unless you have 1 or more AS frag

[umbral socket]

No exceptions for nanoing resources?

[wheat flax]

no

[green tulip]

I would never see a bx reward

[haughty wagon]

Make it the same.

[full kayak]

Totally agree F2P players need to be heard for game to survive

[echo grotto]

It is imperative that while paying players will and should ultimately have an advantage over free 2 play, the non spenders should still be pretty viable so they dont feel like theyre missing out a bunch by not paying

Paying players may keep the game afloat with their wallets, but lesser/non-spenders are the ones that make up the bulk of a playerbase. And considering this hurts absolutely noone and only benefits the vast majority of players its a win-win

[jolly crest]

This is a bit unfair. I would say if your in game name starts with “b” and you have no frag, you can’t participate

[wheat flax]

yeah

or if your name has the same character twice in a row

[echo grotto]

[wheat flax]

can’t let aaron play the game

[wicked anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-aaaaa-gif-8120262609523985153

[umbral socket]

Does "2" count as a character? Because... 22

[wheat flax]

yeah

[jolly crest]

Instant ban

[night spade]

Yes please change it, this is too difficult for me

[hollow storm]

not over 100k storage in that acc? tsk tsk tsk

[spring depot]

https://tenor.com/view/you-couldn’t-live-thanos-endgame-back-to-me-you-could-not-live-gif-16221515858415007908

[timid root]

Quasimodo predicted all of this

[surreal sigil]

Nostradamus, not Norte dame. Two different things completely

[timid root]

Chunook shotgun, whatever happened there

[surreal sigil]

Whatever happened there!!!???

[timid root]

God rest veteran soul

47, just a kid

[umbral wedge]

WE TOLD YA

[echo grotto]

This is more relevant now than ever

[mossy prawn]

the losses at 55 would still be bad

it wouldnt change much

[wicked anvil]

biblical losses either way yeah

at this point you need to have had 100+ MBT (super/heavier/mega) and 100+ PK

[red badge]

This strike just needs a rebalance

[pure osprey]

The tuning for this boss strike is extremely disappointing. I don’t mind losing units, but when you have to wait hours for the repairs from one run it makes the event no fun

[echo grotto]

In light of recent events, this is actually a good thing to keep it the way it is

[mossy prawn]

LMAO

[dense sonnet]

Shoulda made it harder

twas too easy

[mossy prawn]

[dense sonnet]

was practically lossless with r5 nomads

[dapper hornet]

my hospital and repair bay are already almost empty

[dense sonnet]

Same

[wheat flax]

yeah it seems like people got a lot more points across the board

boss strike 1 was considered easy but in boss strike 2 it seems like many more points were earned

MM got 50 million more points in this boss trike than last time

[lime raptor]

Better set up

[paper idol]

https://tenor.com/view/superbad-strategy-mclovin-its-called-strategy-its-called-fucking-strategy-gif-18238501502528760034

[umbral socket]

Enemies died faster but so did we

Plus higher level for more points

[scarlet hatch]

Faster points per hour is all that matters for guilds

For top guilds they are prepared for the losses

For other guilds those with fewer hours to spare will put in more points

[umbral socket]

Yeah but they might hit a wall where all of their units are dead and thus play fewer hours. Those are the people whose points went down from strike 1

[scarlet hatch]

That is true, without nomads we will see a lot of players who spent a ton of time in bs1 but did not prep a ludicrous army for bs2 lose points

[dapper hornet]

This event heavily rewarded those who prepped hard, and punished the unprepared far more than BS 1

[timid topaz]

it also punishes the unlucky

[misty gull]

do you know if the points keep scaling up?

because i haven't really checked out lvl 70 BS's too indepth

i know the SP values should go up generally speaking, but the multipliers seem to go down depending on the level (could be wrong about this)

[umbral socket]

They do

[wheat flax]

thankfully we won’t have another boss strike until october

[pearl siren]

November

[vague nova]

December.

[pearl siren]

January.

[vague nova]

Febuary.

[pearl siren]

[vague nova]

Can't wait for the boss strike in March 2027 guys.

[umbral socket]

Never. Boss Strikes are getting cancelled

[echo grotto]

I could go for another strike in the next couple months tbh

[mossy prawn]

Im glad theyre taking a break to look at the mode

[misty gull]

Yeah I’m fine in a couple months, but it’s gotta be something different most importantly

And that will take time

[echo grotto]

I dont think it needs to change a ton, just needs to make it doable by the average player that preps a solid amount

Tbh this last strike if reduced just a little in difficulty id say it was a blast

[mossy prawn]

I think the current format of incentivizing you to play for 30+ hours to be at the top is good design

its just "fight the same preset format of enemies for 50 hours"

[wicked anvil]

If they had truly random formations that would be interesting

[echo grotto]

This would probably help more

At the end of the day it is a grinding event, but making it more random in formations could alleviate the monotony

[wicked anvil]

The only concern is how to make a truly random formation generator that doesn't generate total bs

[echo grotto]

Could add spawn limits to certain units

[mossy prawn]

it can be a grinding event that doesnt want you to play for as many hours as humanely possible

[echo grotto]

Like no more than 1 or 2 alpha trucks

[vague nova]

Honestly if it's anywhat like garrisons it's probably enjoyable.

But Garrisons are usually enjoyable because the units that spawn don't have a Chunook.

[echo grotto]

I dont think thats necessary tho for people unless for leaderboard

[wicked anvil]

Yeah

[echo grotto]

Otherwise it drives down engagement. You can get all the rewards fine without grinding a ton, but people grind a ton for leaderboard placement

[wicked anvil]

maybe they could combine it with a total fixed pool to make foprmations more interesting without going totally into the rng soup

[mossy prawn]

sure, but its a play style that some people engage in and its not healthy for the playerbase and encourages burnout

[echo grotto]

Its an extra thing people do to go above and beyond, not required by any means to get everything

[mossy prawn]

its a "save the players from themselves" situation

[wicked anvil]

(e.g., across 4 waves, there are X alpha trucks, Y chunooks, etc. and they can be distributed randomly across the four waves subject to certain restrictions, like no more than 2 alpha trucks per wave or somthing)

[mossy prawn]

im not saying put a cap on how much you can attack, just that the system can be looked at and improved over what it is right now

i think BS is a poor gamemode

[meager eagle]

random formation generator could be really funny if it's just a little broken

⬛ ⬛

[wicked anvil]

artillery in the front, alpha trucks int he back, thugs in the middle

absolute cinema

😂

[meager eagle]

we even fight some formations like this in the story

[wicked anvil]

What if, instead of trying to get as many points possible, people and guilds would try to compete in terms of how fast they could get a certain # of BSP?

[meager eagle]

the 3 thugs on the back row, nothing else

[wicked anvil]

E.g., instead of trying to get as many BSP as possible within 96 hours, you're going for the shortest time it takes to get X million points individually and Y million points as a guild