#Minor Pity System for boss drops

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azure scarab
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when a dev sees this they're gonna reach out to us

dry topaz
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Electric fence has a pvp value of 66 I’m good xd

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Higher than AS frags CryLaugh

thorny ice
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Wait actually?

crude elm
azure scarab
thorny ice
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Cease

azure scarab
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it would be one of the games of all time

storm prism
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Me filling in two slots with the frontier shotgun guys to cancel out checkerboard attacks lt_morgan

spark vapor
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Make boss timers viewable. Then make them nano’able laser

teal olive
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☠️🤣

dry topaz
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Almost at 3k!

frank mason
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I was gonna emoji spam this to 3k but I remembered that I might be auto modded for emoji spamming

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So alien gang help me

teal olive
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We gotta get those numbers up gang

wintry garden
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lets ban AS frags from use in PvP AND boss strikes

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that'll make people stop caring if they get one

frank mason
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3k!

wintry garden
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actually just make all Boss Strike player formations include one ranged and one melee frag

frank mason
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Glorious

wintry garden
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wonder if 4k is possible

frank mason
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All ranks reset to R1

wintry garden
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in fact make it a "bug" where everything with a researchable attack is banned too

frank mason
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Any unit produced and not given at the start is banned

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Turn 95th rifles back to the way it was meant to be

wintry garden
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only unit allowed is r1 trooper

every stage now has a row of large rocks at the front, good luck soldier

alpine marlin
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felt like any discussion that goes beyond like 500 posts is completely useless by that point

wintry garden
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it is

thorny ice
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You can’t use anything in PvP

frank mason
thorny ice
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Good ol pistol dueling

frank mason
thorny ice
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Now with semi-automatics.

sullen lance
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Its called entertainment

azure scarab
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Day 5 of asking Madrona for a pity system

dry helm
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You’re gonna love the special role aren’t you

azure scarab
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mine will age like the finest wine

elder igloo
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Honestly I always have and always will support a system like this, I think the first drop idea is very good. It lets the lucky people still be lucky while allowing everyone to play with the fun toy. I think overcoming a boss is a big milestone for players and having a little grace with the first frag would make it feel a little better in practice for those that get unlucky.

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Been preaching something like this since before the AC dropped.

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I also think it adds a level of tangible progress to bosses that's a little lacking in my own opinion. Right now it's kinda just like pulling a slot machine once a week, but if I knew my chances would be better next kill until i got the drop it would keep morale higher when coming back for more.

dull linden
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3000 comments

oak orchid
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The boss drops are just far too valuable

frank mason
azure scarab
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Day 6 of asking Madrona for a pity system

pine moth
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No

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This is a poor idea and promotes Section 8 habits. You have the same luck as everyone else.

dawn nacelle
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section 8?

dusty mural
# dawn nacelle section 8?

The Section 8 housing choice voucher program is provided by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). This program can offer you a voucher to help you afford safe, private housing. Section 8 vouchers are managed by your local public housing agency (PHA).

dawn nacelle
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so if i understand correctly he wants the rich to get richer while the poor stays poor

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classic capitalism

sullen lance
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Yeah poor doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as the rich

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They should remove themselves from this plane

royal swallow
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Some of my friends are under section 8 and would have lived on the street without it

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Rent prices aint cheap, also wtf does section 8 gotta do with this

dawn nacelle
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idk

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he has a strange mindset

sullen lance
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Apparently ppl who get the frag are the chosen one

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And the rest?

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Trash

royal swallow
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Closest I can think he meant is that its just a handout, but living on the edge of poverty and getting a drop in a video game are WAY different stakes

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One will probably kill you the other you can live without

dusty mural
pine moth
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Oh wait. You didn't

dry topaz
frank mason
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Oolkki must be proud to have such an apprentice

azure scarab
leaden gust
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What don’t poor people just invest in the stock market and 10x their money

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They got nothing to lose

pine moth
dry topaz
frank mason
dry topaz
azure scarab
frank mason
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The idea that "the kills you worked for should net you rewards" is "handouts" is absolutely a take of the century lmao

dry topaz
azure scarab
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i dont ever want to see that guy cook again

pine moth
dry topaz
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Gotta work extra hard for your frags

frank mason
dry topaz
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Trueeeee

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Can’t have those meddling F2Ps able to reach the level of the mammoths

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If they complain they can just get a second job and pay for mammoth CryLaugh

manic adder
marble tangle
dusty mural
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Time for a third job then

rotund dagger
dry topaz
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Definitely lmao

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There’s been many

marble tangle
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Revoke them

rotund dagger
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Source?

marble tangle
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Make them pay 2k nanos to keep their drops

dry topaz
rotund dagger
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As soon as anything is not in my sight, it ceases to exist

dry topaz
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I mean feel free to believe that

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I don’t really care enough to convince you

dry topaz
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MM style, pay the nanos or lose the units

crude elm
azure scarab
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Day 7 of asking Madrona for a pity system

crude elm
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Day 1 of asking Madrona to reduce drop odds

dusty mural
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Day 1 of asking Madrona to remove boss drops permanently

thorny ice
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Day 1 of asking

wintry garden
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Day 1 of asking Madrona to make all units gacha based

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2% chance to get a Super tank, 30% chance to get a mini, 30% chance to get a light tank, 20% chance to get a medium tank, 18% chance to get a Heavy tank when you spend 70 nanos

dusty mural
teal forum
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one day or day one

thorny ice
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Can we get to 4k comments?

ashen forge
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i'm shocked this isn't locked yet

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this is so incredibly not about pity anymore lmao

sullen lance
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The dev is pitying us

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So technically theres pity involved

thorny ice
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We got out pittied

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Or something

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idk

azure scarab
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Day 8 of asking Madrona for a pity system

olive phoenix
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You're not asking for a pity system, you're asking for a clad. That's what you actually want.

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You don't actually care about the balance of it, you don't care about the consistency.

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If you did, you'd be cool with getting your way and in exchange you'll never get one yourself.

crude elm
dusty mural
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Instead of a pity system I want everyone’s odds added to mine to guarantee 2 double drops and afterwards the AS no longer spawns

crude elm
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Perhaps I’ll start abusing exploits then claim it’s photoshop when I’m caught instead

crude elm
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You got my vote

dusty mural
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Who’d ever photoshop something they actually have

crude elm
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Is it exploitation if I claim to have told the devs first?

dry topaz
dusty mural
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I heard it’s better to stay silent when you exploit and only tell people you did it to help the devs when it comes to light instead of being very transparent when you find it

crude elm
dusty mural
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“Your Honor, I needed to exploit the bug a thousand times to make sure it worked”

dry topaz
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LMAO

crude elm
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I’m still tryna figure out precisely what causes it

thorny ice
dusty mural
crude elm
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“I accidently stumbled upon the exploit when having 6 instances of the game open” ahh argument

dry topaz
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Don’t forget the extra storage needed to R6 a unit immediately

crude elm
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Next we’ll find out what happens when I “accidentlly” fight the sentinel 20 times at once

dusty mural
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“I had no idea naval units couldn’t promote past level 2” Maaaaan

dusty mural
crude elm
dusty mural
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Who’s your lawyer? Mr B. Zy or S. Cers?

crude elm
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I’ll have Mr. Cers represent me. From what I hear he cool with the devs

hazy sparrow
dusty mural
north rover
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Somehow this still leaves you with 0 frags

dusty mural
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Nah she won’t break the #1 rule, otherwise no one would be super anymore

north rover
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It's like how you can miss a "100%" shot in XCOM

azure scarab
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this is my final evolution of begging

dry topaz
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If I can’t have it nobody can CryLaugh

azure scarab
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^also ban this guy

dull linden
dusty mural
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Brio you’re supposed to be defending me

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Sharing the gospel of how me getting all the boss drops everyone has isn’t such a bad thing

azure scarab
thorny ice
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Push both

azure scarab
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i never thought to do that

azure scarab
# dusty mural

hmmmm... one of the rare cases where i gotta sleep and think it over during an 8 hour dream

dusty mural
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What if I give you 1 of each boss drop as well like the merciful person I am Wihvur_in_Moonlight

dry topaz
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No mercy Laser

azure scarab
dusty mural
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We’ve got a deal

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-# Fish about to be tormented with whatever boss drop he no longer possesses

azure scarab
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his suffering is my enjoyment

dry topaz
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D1 hater

dusty mural
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Can we get a list of who will lose their boss drops to you? BlobEvil

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That way we’ll get this thread to 4k messages

azure scarab
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basically anyone who has made fun of me

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im not doing the math on that

dusty mural
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You only get 1 of each though, you can pick 6 people maximum

thorny ice
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Don’t bother just name them.

azure scarab
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the final one will be a random person from MM

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so they can feel like they got bad rng just like me with AS frags

dry topaz
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WHY ME

azure scarab
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i am jealous

dry topaz
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I didn’t even hate on you smh

dusty mural
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You flex too much Clueless

dusty mural
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Also you are the main character in BN

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We gotta put a stop to that

azure scarab
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it wont sting as much

dry topaz
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Oof

thorny ice
dry topaz
azure scarab
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i was gonna say Colty for getting a double drop from the AS but he too chill Gladge

dusty mural
dusty mural
thorny ice
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Can’t have that.

manic adder
violet quest
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boss掉落随机碎片,一定数量合成单位;同时对于op单位添加限制上场数量即可。当然z3没这能力做到那就当我没说。

lyric monolith
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But what you just said makes no sense....

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It doesn't apply here.

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"The boss drops random fragments, and a certain number of fragments can be combined to form a unit; at the same time, a limit can be placed on the number of OP units that can be deployed. Of course, if Z3 doesn't have the capability to do this, then just ignore what I said."
-Google Translate

sullen lance
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Z3 moment

lyric monolith
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-# Before being formerly known as Madrona Games, Alex did introduce themselves as Z3...

sullen lance
lyric monolith
sullen lance
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I think what they meant by random fragment is

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Umm

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Like a fragment of frags

lyric monolith
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It drops trash, that you assemble.

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Into non-trash.

sullen lance
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Yes

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Basically a pity with an extra step

lyric monolith
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Pity would be the drop rate being changed in some manner. That is just assembling voltron.

thorny ice
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Doesn’t that just make frags even more RNG dependent?

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As well as provide an immense advantage to those who already have frags?

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Seeing as they don’t have to bother with the fetch quest?

sullen lance
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Idk maybe theyre planning to remove the whole frag entirely

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So it only drop the frag piece

strange jewel
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this is something similar to other games, which gives you frags when opening chest. and even if you isn't lucky enough to get the whole unit in the chest. you can still assemble one with the frags from a lot of chest.

sullen lance
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It guarantees you the frag after a certain amount of clear

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It would remove luck

thorny ice
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I get the picture, how many clears would you need though?

sullen lance
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Maybe it should get more and more expensive overtime

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At first 10

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Later 15

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Just adjust the number

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Roughly 2 month to get a drop

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Maybe thats too long

strange jewel
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this way is even better because u know how many frags in your inventory and you can track your progress to next drop. more transparent than just guarantee a drop after certain clears.

obsidian yoke
dry topaz
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It’s just pity with fragments

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Results in the same thing tbh

obsidian yoke
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Find 100 z2 fragments to rebuild z200

sullen lance
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We are making z3

dry topaz
obsidian yoke
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Yeah, he’s against it because he literally don’t want unlucky ppl to get drops

dry topaz
obsidian yoke
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Like that’s the actual argument

dry topaz
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Keep the poor poor moment

obsidian yoke
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I mean it’s ’go fk yourself’ but phrased differently

teal olive
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Guys, I love this game, but I’m starting to lose hope with how many people disagree with so many things that could help the longevity for this game. Makes me sad tbh

dry topaz
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Good thing they aren’t the one making decisions xd

obsidian yoke
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You’d be overjoyed at z2 forums

teal olive
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They’re definitely the loudest though

night grail
obsidian yoke
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I rmb flame wars with tons of ppl defending arena challenge back then

night grail
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this playerbase is wild sometimes

dusky copper
obsidian yoke
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Even a f2p was defending them (BSR dude ofc)

obsidian yoke
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In fact he’s still around

dusky copper
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Y’all mf still going in this thread?

simple escarp
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nah guys lets not give boss drops

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i propose 50 nanos per boss attempt

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make it not tied to respawn time

night grail
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nah bro

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500 nanos

teal olive
simple escarp
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all whale nanos get redistributed to whole bn community

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to quell the peasants

teal olive
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We need mega nanopods

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They’re nanos, but mega

night grail
obsidian yoke
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100000 nanos for everyone!

simple escarp
obsidian yoke
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See you all in 10 years

simple escarp
simple escarp
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they said if we get it to 4k, we get free nanos

sullen lance
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Hey they spend all the money

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Therefore they are worth more!!!

obsidian yoke
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The meek perish

simple escarp
sullen lance
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They dont deserve a luigi

alpine marlin
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BN players voting against their own interests like they are actually voting in an election

teal olive
sullen lance
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But i have money

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Wait i forgot

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You need to pay to vote!

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Vote with your wallet

night grail
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bot is lame

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can’t even mock bossman without the message being deleted lmao

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this time he’s really gonna do it dewd he’s gonna quit

lyric monolith
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Makes enough money to pay off all debts
Loses it all again
Destroys own property out of frustration

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I wouldn't have it any other way.

night grail
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anyone giving him actual advice gets banned too

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oh and this time he’s really gonna buy a car

lyric monolith
night grail
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yea i have a bunch saved myself but i didn’t have this one

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man has endless content at this point

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i’m not even sure what’s going on with him rn but i think he’s in rehab again

lyric monolith
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At least he's not in jail, again!

teal olive
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I have no clue who this man is

lyric monolith
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That's Bossman Jack.

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You can google his name to learn more.

teal olive
sullen lance
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He loves making hole

night grail
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man had a 5 and a half hour youtube documentary made on him

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if that same person made one today covering everything it’d be 7 hours now

crude elm
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or, just me and brio

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Good an evil, well balanced eachother out

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And the game will be perfect

azure scarab
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Day 9 of asking Madrona for a pity system

dull linden
dry helm
rotund dagger
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Get that ish out of here

azure scarab
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Day 10 of asking Madrona for a pity system

frank mason
dry topaz
north rover
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when it's going to start to feel really bad is when the majority of players have frags/clads

thorny ice
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You mean the drop rates or the pity system?

wintry garden
north rover
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the drop rates

azure scarab
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even i do not know the answer to that

frank mason
unique oasis
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4th AS even without chem vials.......
I want a pity system, now

royal swallow
uneven granite
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40 dread kills not a single clad🙃

azure scarab
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Day 11 of asking Madrona for a pity system

dusty mural
dry topaz
azure scarab
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god must have mercy on me

dry topaz
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There’s a melee in gen chat rn too

azure scarab
dusty mural
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@azure scarab

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I got you

spark vapor
# dusty mural

Don’t think that’s what he meant when he said he wanted a frag to come to him 😂

alpine hull
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It's already over for us just accept we never getting a frag

azure scarab
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Day 12 of asking Madrona for a pity system

simple escarp
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back to the arena

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come back here fellas

dusty mural
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Time for PvP here

sturdy otter
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Get a thread locked %any%

azure scarab
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this is my thread

dusty mural
lyric monolith
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Legal status is still pending.

north rover
azure scarab
dusty mural
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Or even worse

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A squatter

azure scarab
dusty mural
azure scarab
wraith jasper
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No teeth to chew with, it has to be slop.

marble tangle
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Is it bad that I don’t think that looks half bad

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Maybe I’m just hungry

wintry garden
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it just looks plain

frank mason
marble tangle
wet rivet
uneven granite
marble tangle
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I got my first clad my second fight….

dusty mural
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Wanna swap? I’ll take your quick spawns and you get 7 day average spawns but a slight chance of getting a clad

wet rivet
storm prism
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Boss encounter change: 50% chance to drop a fragment, but only spawns once a year lt_morgan

thorny ice
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What if the AS just stopped spawning and all ranged frags became melee frags lt_morgan

azure scarab
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Day 13 of asking Madrona for a pity system

olive phoenix
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It won't be long until nobody answers and you'll just be alone again.

lyric monolith
azure scarab
unique oasis
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A lot of people like me are supporting pity system, although not speaking here every day

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The ask for pity system will never be along

spark vapor
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the slight alternative, using the "fragment shards" idea, is to make a "secret vault" esque thing for frags and the payment is smth like 100 widgets or laruels

-# im kidding please never do this, not even for april fools

dry topaz
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100 laurels for a 1% chance at a frag? Sign me up

azure scarab
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pls let me pay nanos for boss spawns Prayge

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just give me anything

obsidian yoke
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If Brio falls, I will take his place to necro this suggestion

azure scarab
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Day 14 of asking Madrona for a pity system

wet rivet
dull linden
obsidian yoke
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His spirit shall never die

storm prism
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Another DN fight, another complete waste of time and resources Sadge

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I'm about to just stop bothering with it, I just keep feeding bars, teeth, and steel to a black hole

azure scarab
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Day 15 of asking Madrona for a pity system

pale thorn
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I only agree with this cuase i didnt get drops but if i did … i would like to stay lucky

obsidian yoke
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You must not let external circumstances change your beliefs

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A pity system at 3-6 months is imo needed for the 5-10% who fall through the RNG gap

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Especially when BN is a completely different experience with or without frags

simple escarp
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@obsidian yoke has a frag

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get him!

frank mason
lyric monolith
storm prism
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so-called free thinkers when frag drop

wraith jasper
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They join the other side

obsidian yoke
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I’m still on your side

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I cannot be paid off

obsidian yoke
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Day 16 of asking Madrona for a Ppppp.

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Day

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Good day. Madrona is very generous and owes us nothing. Thank you for your support of Battle Nations.

royal swallow
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You want a long pp?

azure scarab
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Day 16 of asking Madrona for a pity system

deft summit
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Pity for everyone except Brio lt_morgan

unique oasis
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my third, fourth, and fifth AS are all 8 days
Ask for a pity system, not only for drop, but for the time as well

wraith jasper
azure scarab
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Day 17 of asking Madrona for a pity system

azure scarab
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Day 18 of asking Madrona for a pity system

frank mason
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Maybe no pity system because Madrona enjoys gambling as much as some of the folks at MM thinkge

crude elm
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And yet the mods close my suggestion

thorny ice
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Because it would be illegal

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Lol

dry helm
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Free drip

crude elm
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Tis a shame

thorny ice
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The world has enough gambling 💀

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Though, people can’t get enough of it.

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Gotta find the next thing to gamble for so I can monopolize it. Maybe gambling with your mail.

dry helm
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If you don’t get an ancient sentinel drop, give the player +1 gun truck

azure scarab
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get out of my begging thread

final turtle
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Is this suggestion serious Sadge

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anyone that gave it a thumbs up should have a negative chance of getting a frag

crude elm
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I gave it a clown

final turtle
crude elm
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This is an old post, he probably reacted before getting banned

lyric monolith
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Drip is banned?

final turtle
final turtle
lyric monolith
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What'd he even do

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What

azure scarab
final turtle
crude elm
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Why we lying 💀

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He was spamming John pork gifs

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And the bot banned him

final turtle
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we weren’t spamming it 😭

crude elm
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Typical DG sht

lyric monolith
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That warrants a ban in this server?

crude elm
azure scarab
crude elm
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5 John porks a day is spam

final turtle
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no but the bot didn’t ban us it was the mods

crude elm
lyric monolith
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Crazy

spare heron
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Porked too close to the sun

final turtle
lyric monolith
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DG was John Pork every time I checked drip or not lol

crude elm
final turtle
azure scarab
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they gotta free hydrate first

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and blackmembrane

crude elm
final turtle
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They banning all out hero’s

azure scarab
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someone like him is necessary

crude elm
final turtle
final turtle
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We need more brios to bully

crude elm
lyric monolith
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Kittenbreaker

azure scarab
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bruh leave me alone

final turtle
frank mason
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Maidbreaker

crude elm
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Works for you too

azure scarab
azure scarab
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Day 19 of asking Madrona for a pity system

dry helm
azure scarab
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Day 1 of asking these pity system haters to get out

storm prism
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Me after spending even more bars and teeth on another DN fight and getting nothing: 🤡

olive phoenix
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Conceptually I should be on board for a pity system, but I hate gamblers so much I feel like I should be against it on principle and make sure they continue to suffer.

wintry garden
olive phoenix
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I'm kinda of the opinion that instead of a pity system and concessions and whatnot, just remove most of the gambling from the game entirely

wintry garden
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instead of drop chance for units, it should be fragments of those units/ a unit specifc resource that is guaranteed to drop, but with a chance to just get the unit(s) outright

olive phoenix
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Tokens from each boss that are more consistently dropped that can be redeemed at a reclamation facility to get you the units.

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You earn between 1-3 per kill and you pay like... 15 tokens to redeem your unit

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Takes a while and still somewhat luck dependant, but it's at least a guarantee in most regards

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15 is even quite generous because that's less than the "average" luck of 1/20

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Assuming you have worst case luck

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IE you only get the minimum of 1 every kill

wintry garden
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oh, I was thinking it takes 100 and you earn 1-4

olive phoenix
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20-25 tokens might be more "fair"

olive phoenix
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You have to kill the boss without the unit that many times

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Pain in the ass

wintry garden
lyric monolith
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what was that half-baked ssn looking number that got deleted lmao

wintry garden
lyric monolith
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idk what it is so I'm not reposting it.

wintry garden
olive phoenix
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@wet rivet you got something to say?

teal olive
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Oh gosh, here we go 😂

pure ivy
simple escarp
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fire in the hole

azure scarab
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Day 20 of asking Madrona for a pity system

frank mason
azure scarab
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Day 21 of asking Madrona for a pity system

dusty mural
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Brio will carry this thread to 4K messages by himself

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Can’t wait for Day 365

azure scarab
north rover
frank mason
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Aight folks shut this down. It ain't needed anymore

obsidian yoke
#

No way even owl got a frag now

dull linden
#

@azure scarab is next

vale ledge
#

Watch the thread being revived when Goliath tank shows up

north rover
#

never going to go away, there's still people from the beta without AC frags

umbral zodiac
#

I haven’t gotten a single naval boss drop, been farming them at high frequency for over 6 months. Pls Madrona🙏🏻

azure scarab
#

after the events today if god is real he wont allow this injustice to continue

#

pls give me the pity system

zealous cliff
frank mason
simple escarp
#

i have shunned the idea of a frag

#

🥀

wintry garden
#

still no Tentacle

azure scarab
#

Day 22 of asking Madrona for a pity system

simple escarp
#

brio im with u

toxic mantle
#

Ye

azure scarab
#

my faith is tested every day

simple escarp
#

i have hated as frags

#

so i now pray for my allies to get em

#

im not like cabbage and boo

azure scarab
#

there are many who pray on our downfall

simple escarp
#

too many spies

#

sent by the opps

#

@obsidian yoke

#

is one of the opps

#

betrayed for some silver, just like Judas to Jesus

azure scarab
simple escarp
#

keep steady the sword, against all my adversaries

dry helm
frank mason
obsidian yoke
#

I pray that the Sentinel will bless you soon

#

You shall be brought back to the righteous path

#

We can all be havers

thorny ice
#

With the pity system yes

obsidian yoke
#

But of course Id appreciate if Madrona gives a reassurance

#

With a hard pity at 3-6 months

frank mason
#

1st drop system superior to pity system

thorny ice
#

Still falls under the same umbrella, and also last I checked that wasn’t a separate suggestion.

#

Also we’re almost at 3.6k comments apparently.

obsidian yoke
#

Yeah idc the details, as long as there's a guarantee that someone who clears for a few months will get a first frag

#

Im cool

green crescent
#

Has there been any Madrona team member response beyond mattyk's two (+1 gif) replies?

thorny ice
obsidian yoke
#

I agree, im trying to tag it to 50%-100% accumulated drop rate

green crescent
obsidian yoke
#

But making a guarantee first frag early is sth iwm either

#

In fact it'd be a splendid catch up for new joiners later

thorny ice
#

I like that personally

#

The first ranged frag makes such a big difference.

obsidian yoke
#

Yeah idt there's a single boss drop that's remotely close to as good to get early as the ranged frag

azure scarab
#

all frag users are banned from this thread

azure scarab
#

i'm a few more days away of this from @ing alex

#

we go way back he would listen to me for sure

dull linden
#

Im gonna decide to support brio in his quest to implement this till I get a range frag

final turtle
north rover
#

#donator-general message
and I thought my drop RNG was bad

#

man has none

dry topaz
#

Yugami does too

#

There’s a couple people with 0 boss drops at all

azure scarab
#

that is messed up

#

idk why anyone would seriously argue against a pity system with those kinda examples

north rover
#

seeing a few f2p players complain that they're going to stop bothering with bosses because most of the time they lose more than they get
which is fair, even if the drops are as good as they are

dry topaz
#

I’m all for pity but those people you can’t really help unless you nerf the boss

#

People who stop bothering with bosses aren’t gonna make it to 40 kills

north rover
#

if there's some guaranteed reward it'll probably motivate some of them

#

also one more rank on R1s makes dread a lot more reasonable

dry topaz
#

Rn it’s a 92% to get a clad by kill 40

#

If a 92% doesn’t motivate people a 100% won’t for most either

north rover
#

well I'm definitely on the wrong side of that one lol

dry topaz
#

No people definitely can be, but people aren’t gonna start killing bosses due to an 8% increase at 40 kills

north rover
#

I'm getting that xcom style RNG
" 100%-MISSED"

dry topaz
#

The main people who want pity are those who kill the boss on repeat and still don’t get anything, which rightfully so

#

They should get something

wintry garden
dry topaz
#

If you’re not even willing to kill it then don’t bother

north rover
#

it'll look much better to anyone that doesn't understand statistics too

wintry garden
#

it'll also feel more rewarding for those types of players because it's actually going towards something

dry topaz
#

Eh people aren’t gonna bother regardless, especially if they’re of the mindset of “Boss is too hard and costs too much”

#

AS frags are the best units in the game and people still aren’t willing to lose rss/time over it, they’re not gonna make it to 40 kills

#

Plus they’d have to make it there and hit the 8% which is already extremely unlikely

#

Like I said I want pity for those killing bosses and getting nothing, but pity doesn’t help people who don’t kill bosses in the first place

#

Other than AS rn which is literally impossible F2P, if you’re not willing to put in the time/resources to kill the boss don’t complain about no drops

alpine hull
#

Pity should be like 20 kills 👍

dry topaz
#

That’s not pity that’s a guarantee lmao

#

Pity should be 30 or 40 at earliest

#

30-35 range would probably work since that’s around when double odds are

alpine hull
#

With 6% drop rate it's like what 1 in 18ish

#

I think 30 sounds reasonable

#

I'm kinda comparing to gacha games which put the pity system relative to the average but a bit behind

sullen lance
#

Gacha but you can only pull every 5.5 days

alpine hull
#

If ur AS spawns ever 5.5 days good for your cause mines on day 7 rn Sadge

umbral zodiac
#

Ngl I get rlly sad when I see people with all these boss drops 🙁 always max level on these updates and I only got 1 dexter frag LOL

dry topaz
simple escarp
#

8 clads tho

dry topaz
#

10 of the “same” drop is still crazy xd

simple escarp
#

i guess some ppl just are blessed by the rng

#

hence why we have this suggestion

dry topaz
#

I genuinely wonder how many people would actually hit pity

#

If pity is at 40 that means you have to go 7 months with no drop and constant kills

simple escarp
#

more than enough ppl

#

you'd be surprised

teal olive
#

My guild leader is officially over 60 boss kills (AS included now), probably more, and still has nothing 😭🙏

#

I know someone said there’s a player with over 80 kills, probably close to 100 now, like give these players something, I don’t blame them for wanting a pity system 😭

dry topaz
#

Yeah but that’s 60 combined right? If I had to guess they’d make it 40 AS or 40 DN kills and I don’t think many have reached that

#

I also don’t blame them at all, I just think it’ll help them less than they think it will

#

Pity systems aren’t exactly known for being generous sadly…

simple escarp
#

it'll help them with their mental

#

thats for sure

dry topaz
#

100%

simple escarp
#

going that long without a drop takes a toll on u

teal olive
#

I just want them to get something, this ain’t fair to them imo

obsidian yoke
#

It’s supposed to not matter to the rest of the ppl who don’t need it

wintry garden
#

Best way to implement it is probably a fragment or token system where you get so many of a resource only used to make a specific boss drop after a boss kill (and also the chance to get the boss drop in the first place) that way it even benefits the players who already have the drops, and adds a perceived layer of depth to the game by connecting the bosses more to the other game mechanics

dry topaz
#

DN has been out for 9 months now I think? And AS 1 month

#

People only reached 40 kills 2 months ago

obsidian yoke
#

True, but the reassurance now goes a long way, even if it ultimately it’s not kicked in for the bulk of the ppl

wintry garden
#

I still want my Tentacle

Not sure how much I’ve beaten Kraken

simple escarp
dry topaz
#

Yeah like I said I’m all for it, I’m just curious how many people will actually proc the pity

simple escarp
dry topaz
#

Simply because it takes so damn long to reach it in the first place

dry topaz
#

0.6% to have 8 clads in 9 months

simple escarp
#

with enough data points, there will be outliers like that yea

#

diabolically crazy

dry topaz
#

Oh definitely

#

It’s only 1/166

#

There’s definitely way more than 166 people that killed DN for 9 months

simple escarp
#

low but not that low compared to to other odds

dry topaz
#

Way more likely no?

simple escarp
#

like having no clad within that period is more unlikely than having 8 clads

dry topaz
#

Oh not to get a clad

simple escarp
#

is it not?

dry topaz
#

You wrote to get a clad CryLaugh

simple escarp
#

ye i butchered it

#

lmao

dry topaz
#

Yeah 0 is more likely than 8

umbral zodiac
simple escarp
#

we're channeling the rage into this suggestion

dry topaz
#

4.8% to be cladless after 9 months, 0.6% to get 8 clads within 9 months

#

(9 months is ~49 kills)

wintry garden
#

Whats the chance for 5 Sinister Frags at this point, I remember it being pretty dumb when I got the 5th

#

But it’s been months since then

dry topaz
#

Idk how many AC kills xd

wintry garden
#

That’s understandable, I haven’t been counting any kills aside from AS really

frank mason
#

When did AC release?

wintry garden
#

I posted my first AC kill in chat on June 5th, 2025 so that’d be about 32 kills (estimated assuming 1/week)

wintry garden
#

In that case, I am shocked I’ve gotten any other drops. Wish I had that luck for the AS

azure scarab
#

Day 23 of asking Madrona for a pity system

dusty mural
frank mason
azure scarab
#

Day 24 of asking Madrona for a pity system

plain smelt
dry helm
#

Ehhhh

azure scarab
#

Day 25 of asking Madrona for a pity system

#

I @ the devs on day 100

#

thats when my begging reaches a new high or low depending on your perspective gladge

dull linden
rotund dagger
dull linden
dry topaz
#

Not like the pity system would even activate until 7 months after your first kill CryLaugh

#

Pity means nothing for BS2 and probably BS3

dull linden
#

I think for your first drop it would be nice to guarantee a drop within the first 20 battles but then again you will average a frag every 17 kills

#

And if you dont get any drops forever then itll even itself out as math does

dry topaz
#

0 chance they’d ever make it at 20

#

At best at 30

obsidian yoke
#

I mean if someone havent gotten a drop at 6 months

dry topaz
#

More likely 35

obsidian yoke
#

Then you very much want the pity to kick in for them at said 6 months

dry topaz
#

35 kills is probably fine

dull linden
dry topaz
#

Helps the 8% unluckiest people

edgy parrot
#

This is a good suggestion.

The unlucky few benefit from this, most players probably won’t notice it.

If you’ve ever gone 50+ battles without a drop then you should get a drop from a system like this. If you got that many kills you’ve put in the effort and should be rewarded

obsidian yoke
#

Yeah 5-10% ppl benefitting from the pity system is ideal

#

For the vast majority it doesn't do anything

#

It just stops the 2 year outliers in z2 days

dry topaz
#

I just find it hilarious how so many people think pity will help them, they’re indirectly saying “I’m one of the unluckiest players” CryLaugh

#

You’re much more likely to straight up get a frag than hit pity

obsidian yoke
#

The knowledge that there's pity at the end is

#

Super copium

north rover
#

I'd already be at it for the dread KEKW

obsidian yoke
#

5% of the ppl will hit pity but 50% will get the morale boost

dry topaz
#

Those are the ones I find funny

obsidian yoke
#

Nah thats not happening for sure

dry topaz
#

People read pity and think “Omg I went 5 AS kills no drop that means a free drop for me!” CryLaugh

azure scarab
#

what are these frag enjoyers doing in my begging thread

obsidian yoke
#

Im so glad there's a pity for boss spawn timer because im about to hit it

dry topaz
dry topaz
azure scarab
dry topaz
#

I’m not like @deft summit, biblical levels of greed

deft summit
#

You should be happy after 6 clads and both AS drops

azure scarab
#

why have you summoned my sworn enemy bruh

deft summit
#

Fresh reminder for you

azure scarab
crude elm
azure scarab
final turtle
simple escarp
#

if brio falters, the cause is dead

spark vapor
dusty mural
#

Day 25 of hoping Brio forgets to beg

dusty mural
azure scarab
#

Day 26 of asking Madrona for a pity system

obsidian yoke
#

As long as you complain enough before you kill the first AS

#

It counts as 20 kills

dusty mural
dusty mural
obsidian yoke
dusty mural
#

Multiple actually FatRaptor

obsidian yoke
#

I’m blaming spartan

dusty mural
#

5 people with only a melee frag, 4 with only ranged frags (of which there is Spartan with 2 of them) and the main character with both lt_morgan

obsidian yoke
#

Clearly you were assigned to Brio’s team

#

Maybe your presence can give him a frag next lt_morgan

dusty mural
#

You’re assuming I want Brio to get a drop Maaaaan

obsidian yoke
#

Did you want spartan to get 2 🤣

#

Maybe I can steal another frag from this thread too

dusty mural
#

No but at least Spartan will now be obliged to carry me to T15 CryLaugh

#

I can do my regular 3m points and he can do the 9m to offset my 1m deficit Froge

#

-# calculations are difficult

crude elm
#

Too washed Sadge

simple escarp
dusty mural
#

So close to 4k messages

sharp iron
dusty mural
#

9 mil

#

People with 2 ranged frags need to also offset my score not being fully T15

sharp iron
azure scarab
azure scarab
#

Day 27 of asking Madrona for a pity system

plain smelt
#

Can’t wait for brio to get a frag and do a full 180 on this thread

azure scarab
azure scarab
#

Day 28 of asking Madrona for a pity system

azure scarab
#

Day 29 of asking Madrona for a pity system

haughty mist
#

I have done about 25 AC clears with no frag, and, 40+ DN clears with no drop, so yeah, a little something to push that along for me would be great

thorny ice
#

That way they’ll never get a Frag, and thus will be able to continue advocating for a pity system until they expire.

azure scarab
#

Day 30 of asking Madrona for a pity system

#

Alex do something pls blank_stare

dull linden
#

Alex please give brio a frag so I can watch him stop asking for this feature kekw

dusty mural
#

Nah, we need “Day 365”

azure scarab
dusty mural
#

I’m a big fan of people begging and groveling

azure scarab
#

make the imitation AS frags

dusty mural
frank mason
dull linden
sharp iron
#

Will he become what he hates

dull linden
north rover
#

at this point a guaranteed drop is probably the only way I get a clad lol

unique oasis
#

ask for pity system, or 500 nanopods opening for buying one AS frag

azure scarab
#

Day 31 of asking Madrona for a pity system

#

btw i don't have this task scheduled into a calendar. I just remember to do this out of pure hatred

#

that is all

dusty mural
#

So you’re saying there is a big likelihood you’ll forget to ask

frank mason
simple escarp
azure scarab
storm prism
thorny ice
frank mason
#

The day Brio forgets is the day we know he got a frag

lyric monolith
#

He's got 20 minutes before the 24h mark

vale ledge
#

20 minutes has long passed

#

Hatred has consumed him to hate frag owners instead fighting for the noble couse

azure scarab
#

You are all insane if you think my hatred is something that can be forgotten so easily

#

Day 32 of asking Madrona for a pity system

vale ledge
#

You’re still late tho

azure scarab
north rover
#

it's still within the day

azure scarab
#

Its 8pm right now for me

vale ledge
#

24h mark is long passed but sure

azure scarab
shrewd iron
#

As a once very strong supporter of this idea, due to recent events of which I won’t discuss, I’m gonna have to disagree with this idea completely. @azure scarab

plain smelt
azure scarab
#

you were never one of us anyway

#

just like Boo

wraith jasper
azure scarab
lyric monolith
#

I'll salute him all the same.

thorny ice
azure scarab
#

Day 33 of asking Madrona for a pity system

dusty mural
#

Time to ditch the tent and start working on a long term shelter here

thorny ice
dusty mural
#

A hovel is the best I can do

#

I’m not wasting nanopods on Brio

obsidian yoke
#

I got a happy shack for you brio

wraith jasper
#

One day, when you've become the dictator you always knew you could be, you will peer down upon the toiling proles from the upper balcony of your palatial palace-slash-fortress, and you will wonder to yourself, "Was achieving this kind of power worth all the corruption, the purges, and the ruthless oppression of an innocent populace along the way?" And you will chuckle softly to yourself, and pour yourself another brandy, confident in the obviousness of the answer.

simple escarp
#

don't listen to them Brio, stay the course

#

the devil works overtime to claim your soul

azure scarab
#

Day 34 of asking Madrona for a pity system

thorny ice
#

Show no quarter

drifting arch
#

How tf do you scroll all the way to top, I cant read the initial post

#

I know im not THAT old

#

Is there not a button on threads

obsidian yoke
#

Tap a little bit above the title

north rover
#

or the up arrow top right of the thread

plain smelt
#

If u tap around there it should take you to top

storm prism
# plain smelt

Idk if my ui doesn't allow for it but i can't get that to work

plain smelt
#

What phone?

storm prism
plain smelt
#

Yeah most apps aren’t very friendly to foldables Sadge

#

Even on iPhone it’s just a random ghost button

obsidian yoke
#

can confirm, it works on my iphone but not the fold

storm prism
#

That's crazy
First discord can't get an HDR streaming option to work for years, then this

azure scarab
#

Day 35 of asking Madrona for a pity system

azure scarab
#

Day 36 of asking Madrona for a pity system

sharp iron
#

I fu***** knew it

azure scarab
azure scarab
#

Day 37 of asking Madrona for a pity system

obsidian yoke
spark socket
#

@azure scarab
mb brother

silk girder
#

oh my

sharp iron
#

Poor brio might be 4ever stuck in anger now

eternal shale
#

between this and #general message it seems like the drop system is working just fine so we can put this idea to rest

pure ivy
#

lobo stole brio's frags

#

😭

sharp iron
#

I’m sensing hate that has never been hated to ever hate seeing this hating message incoming

lyric monolith
#

I can't believe a nuclear bomb just detonated at Madrona's offices. Crazy.

storm prism
azure scarab
#

They try to destroy my will

spark socket
#

Its okay brio

#

Next as drop trust

sharp iron
#

Billionaire telling the peasant they will make it big next season

shrewd iron
# spark socket

Can you tell me what you did in your life to reach this level of luck?

#

Or does Alex take bribes? I’m not against bribing him if that’s the case

royal zealot
azure scarab
#

if i see someone with 5 frags i will have to @ Alex

#

and demand an explanation

teal olive
# spark socket

Bruh, “3%” and there’s still people without anything😭

#

Congrats though 🎉

sharp iron
eternal shale
#

the frags trickle down from the top 1% to the fragless trust

simple escarp
#

4 now

#

3 ranged frags is like playing whack a mole with enemies

eternal shale
#

Corey also has 4

sharp iron
#

its jover for brio

dusty mural
#

Always has been

azure scarab
#

Day 38 of asking Madrona for a pity system

#

I aint stopping until i win

simple escarp
sullen lance
#

Stop thinking small law

#

Winning is bigger than a single frag

simple escarp
mint condor
#

plot twist: there already is a pity system its just that nobody has reached the pity yet

wet rivet
azure scarab
#

This is a righteous crusade

dry helm
royal zealot
#

People cant fathom wanting others to get drops too 💀

dry helm
#

Good for me isn’t good for thee

frank mason
#

This thread was beaten to the 4k mark by the other one

obsidian yoke
#

their discussion will end in 20 days

#

Brio will fight for the next 4000 days

crude elm
#

Insane work

dull linden
azure scarab
#

my work has only just begun

azure scarab
#

Day 39 of asking Madrona for a pity system

unique oasis
#

As a new situation happens in my account, which I won't share details here, I have to change my opinion of starting against this proposal.

obsidian yoke
#

z3 bribes another man

azure scarab