#Minor Pity System for boss drops
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Wait actually?
@azure scarab change frag PvP values to 67

Cease
it would be one of the games of all time
Me filling in two slots with the frontier shotgun guys to cancel out checkerboard attacks 
Make boss timers viewable. Then make them nano’able 
☠️🤣
Fu ck it, Sure
Almost at 3k!

I was gonna emoji spam this to 3k but I remembered that I might be auto modded for emoji spamming
So alien gang help me
lets ban AS frags from use in PvP AND boss strikes
that'll make people stop caring if they get one
3k!
actually just make all Boss Strike player formations include one ranged and one melee frag
Glorious
wonder if 4k is possible
Ban all nano units too so the game is truly fair
All ranks reset to R1
not enough
anything with a nano attack unlocked, also banned
in fact make it a "bug" where everything with a researchable attack is banned too
Any unit not unlocked upon starting the game is banned
Any unit produced and not given at the start is banned
Turn 95th rifles back to the way it was meant to be
only unit allowed is r1 trooper
every stage now has a row of large rocks at the front, good luck soldier
felt like any discussion that goes beyond like 500 posts is completely useless by that point
it is
Ban all units
You can’t use anything in PvP

Have the players fight each other
Good ol pistol dueling

Now with semi-automatics.
Its called entertainment
Day 5 of asking Madrona for a pity system
You’re gonna love the special role aren’t you
your words will age like milk
mine will age like the finest wine
Honestly I always have and always will support a system like this, I think the first drop idea is very good. It lets the lucky people still be lucky while allowing everyone to play with the fun toy. I think overcoming a boss is a big milestone for players and having a little grace with the first frag would make it feel a little better in practice for those that get unlucky.
Been preaching something like this since before the AC dropped.
I also think it adds a level of tangible progress to bosses that's a little lacking in my own opinion. Right now it's kinda just like pulling a slot machine once a week, but if I knew my chances would be better next kill until i got the drop it would keep morale higher when coming back for more.
The boss drops are just far too valuable
Congrats on record thread comments
Day 6 of asking Madrona for a pity system
No
This is a poor idea and promotes Section 8 habits. You have the same luck as everyone else.
section 8?
The Section 8 housing choice voucher program is provided by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). This program can offer you a voucher to help you afford safe, private housing. Section 8 vouchers are managed by your local public housing agency (PHA).
so if i understand correctly he wants the rich to get richer while the poor stays poor
classic capitalism
Yeah poor doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as the rich
They should remove themselves from this plane
Some of my friends are under section 8 and would have lived on the street without it
Rent prices aint cheap, also wtf does section 8 gotta do with this
Closest I can think he meant is that its just a handout, but living on the edge of poverty and getting a drop in a video game are WAY different stakes
One will probably kill you the other you can live without
It’s best to just ignore him, this is just who he is.
Like y'all did with Sodapotions?
Oh wait. You didn't
Oolkki must be proud to have such an apprentice
do not ever let this man cook again
What don’t poor people just invest in the stock market and 10x their money
They got nothing to lose
It warms my heart when an opinion against handouts rifles the feathers of the softer masses.
We should just make boss drops buyable with 1k nanos each, keep the poor poor 
Gotta make that gambling money. Make AS attempts 1k nanos each
And remove the AS timer, but each attempt now costs 1k nanos
being rifled is a stretch you just hating on the unlucky few who dont get drops after a year of kills. no more cooking for you

i support that
The idea that "the kills you worked for should net you rewards" is "handouts" is absolutely a take of the century lmao
Nah if they complain they’re just soft, gotta pull themselves up by their bootstraps 
idk who let him into the kitchen or who gave him the tools to prepare a meal
i dont ever want to see that guy cook again
Apprentice under Oolkki
I have a better idea, frags are only available to those above 4 mill BS points
Gotta work extra hard for your frags
I don't like that. That would mean you can work hard to get rich when you should have to pay to get rich. Make it mammoth tier patrons only. And only during the months you bought mammoth tier
Trueeeee
Can’t have those meddling F2Ps able to reach the level of the mammoths
If they complain they can just get a second job and pay for mammoth 
Even I can cook better and I make burnt cereal and soggy toast
My first and second jobs are BN though
Time for a third job then
Has anyone other than patreon supporters even gotten a drop? I can’t even get a spawn
Revoke them
Source?
Make them pay 2k nanos to keep their drops
There’s been multiple screenshots xd
As soon as anything is not in my sight, it ceases to exist

MM style, pay the nanos or lose the units
Not quite, it was pay the debt or lose te account 💀
Day 7 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Day 1 of asking Madrona to reduce drop odds
Day 1 of asking Madrona to remove boss drops permanently
Day 1 of asking
Day 1 of asking Madrona to make all units gacha based
2% chance to get a Super tank, 30% chance to get a mini, 30% chance to get a light tank, 20% chance to get a medium tank, 18% chance to get a Heavy tank when you spend 70 nanos
Only if we get buff girls and cute men artwork as well
one day or day one
Can we get to 4k comments?
Day 8 of asking Madrona for a pity system
You're not asking for a pity system, you're asking for a clad. That's what you actually want.
You don't actually care about the balance of it, you don't care about the consistency.
If you did, you'd be cool with getting your way and in exchange you'll never get one yourself.
A pity system is necessary until I get both frags, it should then be promptly removed and the odds decreased
me when i state the obvious 
Instead of a pity system I want everyone’s odds added to mine to guarantee 2 double drops and afterwards the AS no longer spawns
Perhaps I’ll start abusing exploits then claim it’s photoshop when I’m caught instead
This is an excellent option as well
You got my vote

Who’d ever photoshop something they actually have

Is it exploitation if I claim to have told the devs first?

I heard it’s better to stay silent when you exploit and only tell people you did it to help the devs when it comes to light instead of being very transparent when you find it
I’ll just claim it was photoshopped
“Your Honor, I needed to exploit the bug a thousand times to make sure it worked”
LMAO
Well yoh see, I was trying to figure out what caused it. Getting my super tanks, portable walls, tank killers, and wimps to r6 were tests
I’m still tryna figure out precisely what causes it
"Your Honor, I need to break the law to ensure that it functions" ahhhh energy.
-# a little too close to home since I actually recreated things in photoshop to not give away details 
“I accidently stumbled upon the exploit when having 6 instances of the game open” ahh argument
Don’t forget the extra storage needed to R6 a unit immediately
Sorry, I didn’t know keeping the promotion screen open on 6 screen at once for ours on end would be an exploit
Next we’ll find out what happens when I “accidentlly” fight the sentinel 20 times at once
“I had no idea naval units couldn’t promote past level 2” 
Wait M10s don’t go on land?
Nanopods aren’t free?!
I won’t respond without a lawyer present
Who’s your lawyer? Mr B. Zy or S. Cers?
I’ll have Mr. Cers represent me. From what I hear he cool with the devs
new pity system: all drops from all accounts get moved to wihvur and then nothing ever spawns ever again
This is why you’re the best developer 
Somehow this still leaves you with 0 frags
Nah she won’t break the #1 rule, otherwise no one would be super anymore
It's like how you can miss a "100%" shot in XCOM
pls delete all boss drops from the game
this is my final evolution of begging
If I can’t have it nobody can 

^also ban this guy

Brio you’re supposed to be defending me
Sharing the gospel of how me getting all the boss drops everyone has isn’t such a bad thing
i feel like that guy in the meme trying to decide which 2 red buttons to push
Push both
hmmmm... one of the rare cases where i gotta sleep and think it over during an 8 hour dream
What if I give you 1 of each boss drop as well like the merciful person I am 
No mercy 
ok but on the condition that they are taken from members of the community i pick. I can't enjoy them unless i know I've deprived others 
We’ve got a deal
-# Fish about to be tormented with whatever boss drop he no longer possesses
you know me too well 
his suffering is my enjoyment
Can we get a list of who will lose their boss drops to you? 
That way we’ll get this thread to 4k messages
You only get 1 of each though, you can pick 6 people maximum
Don’t bother just name them.
Fish, Spartanbreaker (he got bumped up my list a lot), mcman, spudpeeler, Hikari (i'm jealous so i have to hate)
the final one will be a random person from MM
so they can feel like they got bad rng just like me with AS frags
WHY ME
I didn’t even hate on you smh
You flex too much 
Forgor B * * * zy
he has experienced too much hate lately i fear he has grown resistant
it wont sting as much
Oof
Can’t have a protagonist.
Nuh uh
i was gonna say Colty for getting a double drop from the AS but he too chill 
Yuh uh
Time to become the antagonist of this game now that we’ve lost the old one and the replacement is too scared
No because then you’re also a main character.
Can’t have that.
I’ve been good to you
Not wrong at all
boss掉落随机碎片,一定数量合成单位;同时对于op单位添加限制上场数量即可。当然z3没这能力做到那就当我没说。
But what you just said makes no sense....
It doesn't apply here.
"The boss drops random fragments, and a certain number of fragments can be combined to form a unit; at the same time, a limit can be placed on the number of OP units that can be deployed. Of course, if Z3 doesn't have the capability to do this, then just ignore what I said."
-Google Translate
Z3 moment
-# Before being formerly known as Madrona Games, Alex did introduce themselves as Z3...
Its basically pity with extra steps

#👋-welcome message
It's not even pity, he just says that the boss's frags can be turned into a whole new unit with a limit.
Pity would be the drop rate being changed in some manner. That is just assembling voltron.
Doesn’t that just make frags even more RNG dependent?
As well as provide an immense advantage to those who already have frags?
Seeing as they don’t have to bother with the fetch quest?
Idk maybe theyre planning to remove the whole frag entirely
So it only drop the frag piece
this is something similar to other games, which gives you frags when opening chest. and even if you isn't lucky enough to get the whole unit in the chest. you can still assemble one with the frags from a lot of chest.
I get the picture, how many clears would you need though?
Maybe it should get more and more expensive overtime
At first 10
Later 15
Just adjust the number
Roughly 2 month to get a drop
Maybe thats too long
this way is even better because u know how many frags in your inventory and you can track your progress to next drop. more transparent than just guarantee a drop after certain clears.
Damn right. I think we should all shake you down whenever we don’t get a drop
Find 100 z2 fragments to rebuild z200
We are making z3
I don’t even get the initial argument, isn’t the point of a pity system literally to get drops..?
Yeah, he’s against it because he literally don’t want unlucky ppl to get drops

Like that’s the actual argument
Keep the poor poor moment
I mean it’s ’go fk yourself’ but phrased differently
Guys, I love this game, but I’m starting to lose hope with how many people disagree with so many things that could help the longevity for this game. Makes me sad tbh
Good thing they aren’t the one making decisions xd
You’d be overjoyed at z2 forums
They’re definitely the loudest though
almost 60 boss kills with no drop, yet i bet a bunch of them would genuinely call it a skill issue lmao
I rmb flame wars with tons of ppl defending arena challenge back then
this playerbase is wild sometimes
Even a f2p was defending them (BSR dude ofc)
Someday 😭🙏
In fact he’s still around
Y’all mf still going in this thread?
nah guys lets not give boss drops
i propose 50 nanos per boss attempt
make it not tied to respawn time
Boost it to 90 and you got a deal
liam would be happy i bet
100000 nanos for everyone!
ill take his nanos
See you all in 10 years
bold of u to assume im still around
I survive out of spite
The meek perish
They dont deserve a luigi
BN players voting against their own interests like they are actually voting in an election
But i have money

Wait i forgot
You need to pay to vote!
Vote with your wallet
I LOST IT ALL AGAIN, DUDE.
bot is lame
can’t even mock bossman without the message being deleted lmao
this time he’s really gonna do it dewd he’s gonna quit
Makes enough money to pay off all debts
Loses it all again
Destroys own property out of frustration
I wouldn't have it any other way.
anyone giving him actual advice gets banned too
oh and this time he’s really gonna buy a car
I had another video of the gambling ghost but it's lost to time so this'll do instead.
yea i have a bunch saved myself but i didn’t have this one
man has endless content at this point
i’m not even sure what’s going on with him rn but i think he’s in rehab again
At least he's not in jail, again!
Again?😭
I have no clue who this man is
I shall in the morning 🫡
He loves making hole
man had a 5 and a half hour youtube documentary made on him
if that same person made one today covering everything it’d be 7 hours now
Your right. Let MM make the balancing decisions
or, just me and brio
Good an evil, well balanced eachother out
And the game will be perfect
Day 9 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Found you 
Shush now brio it’s alright
Get that ish out of here
Day 10 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Our greatest champion
Now the real question is will you stop asking after you get a drop
when it's going to start to feel really bad is when the majority of players have frags/clads
You mean the drop rates or the pity system?
thankfully, if the game grows, that shouldn't really happen
the drop rates

even i do not know the answer to that
I will uphold his legacy ✊
4th AS even without chem vials.......
I want a pity system, now
Wow! You sure showed them!
40 dread kills not a single clad🙃
Day 11 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Saw a ranged frag drop and immediately went here to ask for mercy pity



god must have mercy on me
There’s a melee in gen chat rn too
i wasnt gonna go in there before now im super definitely not going in there
Don’t think that’s what he meant when he said he wanted a frag to come to him 😂
It's already over for us just accept we never getting a frag
Day 12 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Time for PvP here
Get a thread locked %any%
Hmmm why is it made by Psychocat then?
Legal status is still pending.
morgan, deal with him
made by him owned by me. that's my speciality
So you’re a colonizer

Or even worse
A squatter
beyond vile. sounds about right 
No teeth to chew with, it has to be slop.
it just looks plain
Is it just because you see potatoes?
Maybe
49 here
3 more kills for a year with no clad kills is rough
I got my first clad my second fight….
He’d enjoy that
Amazing spawn rate though
Wanna swap? I’ll take your quick spawns and you get 7 day average spawns but a slight chance of getting a clad
Nah, at this point my odds of not getting one outweighs actually pulling one. So it either happens or it don’t
Boss encounter change: 50% chance to drop a fragment, but only spawns once a year 
What if the AS just stopped spawning and all ranged frags became melee frags 
It won't be long until nobody answers and you'll just be alone again.
This thread will never die he'll ask for a pity system, and somehow, someday, someone will reply.
my hope will never die
A lot of people like me are supporting pity system, although not speaking here every day
The ask for pity system will never be along
the slight alternative, using the "fragment shards" idea, is to make a "secret vault" esque thing for frags and the payment is smth like 100 widgets or laruels
-# im kidding please never do this, not even for april fools
100 laurels for a 1% chance at a frag? Sign me up
If Brio falls, I will take his place to necro this suggestion
Day 14 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Which happens first you get an AS drop? Or Madrona implement this? Lmao
He finna get a drop and then say no more pity system 
OFC.
I will carry his torch 
His spirit shall never die
Another DN fight, another complete waste of time and resources 
I'm about to just stop bothering with it, I just keep feeding bars, teeth, and steel to a black hole
Day 15 of asking Madrona for a pity system
I only agree with this cuase i didnt get drops but if i did … i would like to stay lucky
You must not let external circumstances change your beliefs
A pity system at 3-6 months is imo needed for the 5-10% who fall through the RNG gap
Especially when BN is a completely different experience with or without frags


They join the other side
Day 16 of asking Madrona for a Ppppp.
Day
Good day. Madrona is very generous and owes us nothing. Thank you for your support of Battle Nations.
You want a long pp?
Day 16 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Pity for everyone except Brio 
my third, fourth, and fifth AS are all 8 days
Ask for a pity system, not only for drop, but for the time as well
ok thats a skill issue

Day 17 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Day 18 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Maybe no pity system because Madrona enjoys gambling as much as some of the folks at MM 
And yet the mods close my suggestion
Free drip
Yeah ik, I was unaware till idk who told me
Tis a shame
The world has enough gambling 💀
Though, people can’t get enough of it.
Gotta find the next thing to gamble for so I can monopolize it. Maybe gambling with your mail.
If you don’t get an ancient sentinel drop, give the player +1 gun truck
Is this suggestion serious 
anyone that gave it a thumbs up should have a negative chance of getting a frag
I gave it a clown
how did drip give a reaction to this post
This is an old post, he probably reacted before getting banned
Drip is banned?
didn’t even notice, I see his shadow everywhere 
unfortunately

he called out a cheater and then he got banned
we weren’t spamming it 😭
Typical DG sht
That warrants a ban in this server?
5 spam calls a day is spam

5 John porks a day is spam
no but the bot didn’t ban us it was the mods
It was a warning but he already had 2 warning so it banned him
Crazy
Porked too close to the sun
I’ll only do 4 a day
DG was John Pork every time I checked drip or not lol
He Johned his last pork
he will be back, I believe
not if i can help it

they gotta free hydrate first
and blackmembrane
He doesn’t need to be freed lmao
They banning all out hero’s
there has to be balance in the universe
someone like him is necessary
Then take up the mantle and post naked babies. Go for it bro 💀
brio has a point
midgets* 
We need more brios to bully
We’ve got brio and spartanbreaker
Kittenbreaker
leave me alone
no orange name
Maidbreaker

Day 19 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Greedy
Me after spending even more bars and teeth on another DN fight and getting nothing: 🤡
Conceptually I should be on board for a pity system, but I hate gamblers so much I feel like I should be against it on principle and make sure they continue to suffer.
the funny part about this statement is the gamblers being the ones who don't want the pity system
I'm kinda of the opinion that instead of a pity system and concessions and whatnot, just remove most of the gambling from the game entirely
instead of drop chance for units, it should be fragments of those units/ a unit specifc resource that is guaranteed to drop, but with a chance to just get the unit(s) outright
Tokens from each boss that are more consistently dropped that can be redeemed at a reclamation facility to get you the units.
You earn between 1-3 per kill and you pay like... 15 tokens to redeem your unit
Takes a while and still somewhat luck dependant, but it's at least a guarantee in most regards
15 is even quite generous because that's less than the "average" luck of 1/20
Assuming you have worst case luck
IE you only get the minimum of 1 every kill
oh, I was thinking it takes 100 and you earn 1-4
20-25 tokens might be more "fair"
That also works but that's also really grindy. You have to remember that it's a minimum of 5 kills with 15 and about 8-10 kills for 25
You have to kill the boss without the unit that many times
Pain in the ass
maybe 3-5 per with a 100 tokens required. The original drop chance would still remain like I mentioned at first, my thought is that 5-15 kills is way too good compared to current rates and it should be more on par with drop chance rates at best.
what was that half-baked ssn looking number that got deleted lmao
so at best you get the unit after 20 fights with the tokens rather than the tokens just being better than the drop chance
idk what it is so I'm not reposting it.
Just testing something, sent in wrong Discord
@wet rivet you got something to say?
Oh gosh, here we go 😂
mr president take cover
fire in the hole
Day 20 of asking Madrona for a pity system
More on time than Humanoid's pepe waves
Day 21 of asking Madrona for a pity system
before soon this will be my burden alone to bear
hold the line
Aight folks shut this down. It ain't needed anymore
No way even owl got a frag now
Traitor

@azure scarab is next
Watch the thread being revived when Goliath tank shows up
never going to go away, there's still people from the beta without AC frags
I haven’t gotten a single naval boss drop, been farming them at high frequency for over 6 months. Pls Madrona🙏🏻
after the events today if god is real he wont allow this injustice to continue
pls give me the pity system

God isn’t real
May he strike you dead
Just join Recruiters bro. Recruiters get frags easy
brio stay strong
i have shunned the idea of a frag
🥀
still no Tentacle
Ye
will you betray me too? @final turtle betrayed me the same day he became my ally
my faith is tested every day
no
i have hated as frags
so i now pray for my allies to get em
im not like cabbage and boo

i bet they already had frags from the very start and just played along to destroy our morale later on
there are many who pray on our downfall
im also leaning on that, we can never be sure in this server
too many spies
sent by the opps
@obsidian yoke
is one of the opps
betrayed for some silver, just like Judas to Jesus
keep steady the sword, against all my adversaries
I get the feeling you’ll stop if you ever get a frag
Nuh uh you prey on something/someone or pray for something/someone. You do not pray on something/someone unless that something is a prayer mat 
I pray that the Sentinel will bless you soon
You shall be brought back to the righteous path
We can all be havers
With the pity system yes
But of course Id appreciate if Madrona gives a reassurance
With a hard pity at 3-6 months
1st drop system superior to pity system
Still falls under the same umbrella, and also last I checked that wasn’t a separate suggestion.
Also we’re almost at 3.6k comments apparently.
Yeah idc the details, as long as there's a guarantee that someone who clears for a few months will get a first frag
Im cool
Has there been any Madrona team member response beyond mattyk's two (+1 gif) replies?
A few months of waiting often feels a lot longer than it actually is, but maybe that’s just my perception of time.
lol no
I agree, im trying to tag it to 50%-100% accumulated drop rate
Aight still a hard no from Madrona then.
-# time to leave the thread again
But making a guarantee first frag early is sth iwm either
In fact it'd be a splendid catch up for new joiners later
Yeah idt there's a single boss drop that's remotely close to as good to get early as the ranged frag
i'm a few more days away of this from @ing alex
we go way back he would listen to me for sure
Im gonna decide to support brio in his quest to implement this till I get a range frag
I took the deal, I’m sorry 
that is messed up
idk why anyone would seriously argue against a pity system with those kinda examples
seeing a few f2p players complain that they're going to stop bothering with bosses because most of the time they lose more than they get
which is fair, even if the drops are as good as they are
Pity doesn’t help them though
I’m all for pity but those people you can’t really help unless you nerf the boss
People who stop bothering with bosses aren’t gonna make it to 40 kills
if there's some guaranteed reward it'll probably motivate some of them
also one more rank on R1s makes dread a lot more reasonable
Rn it’s a 92% to get a clad by kill 40
If a 92% doesn’t motivate people a 100% won’t for most either
well I'm definitely on the wrong side of that one lol
No people definitely can be, but people aren’t gonna start killing bosses due to an 8% increase at 40 kills
I'm getting that xcom style RNG
" 100%-MISSED"
The main people who want pity are those who kill the boss on repeat and still don’t get anything, which rightfully so
They should get something
those types of players likely just always see it as x% instead of 92% at such and such kills
If you’re not even willing to kill it then don’t bother
it'll look much better to anyone that doesn't understand statistics too
it'll also feel more rewarding for those types of players because it's actually going towards something
Eh people aren’t gonna bother regardless, especially if they’re of the mindset of “Boss is too hard and costs too much”
AS frags are the best units in the game and people still aren’t willing to lose rss/time over it, they’re not gonna make it to 40 kills
Plus they’d have to make it there and hit the 8% which is already extremely unlikely
Like I said I want pity for those killing bosses and getting nothing, but pity doesn’t help people who don’t kill bosses in the first place
Other than AS rn which is literally impossible F2P, if you’re not willing to put in the time/resources to kill the boss don’t complain about no drops
Pity should be like 20 kills 👍
That’s not pity that’s a guarantee lmao
Pity should be 30 or 40 at earliest
30-35 range would probably work since that’s around when double odds are
With 6% drop rate it's like what 1 in 18ish
I think 30 sounds reasonable
I'm kinda comparing to gacha games which put the pity system relative to the average but a bit behind
If ur AS spawns ever 5.5 days good for your cause mines on day 7 rn 
Ngl I get rlly sad when I see people with all these boss drops 🙁 always max level on these updates and I only got 1 dexter frag LOL
someone has 8 clads btw
There’s a screenshot in HSC of DrWhere with 10 AC frags and a melee
i dont really see ac frag as useful so it could be 20 ac frags and i would still lean on the clads and the as frags

8 clads tho
10 of the “same” drop is still crazy xd
I genuinely wonder how many people would actually hit pity
If pity is at 40 that means you have to go 7 months with no drop and constant kills
My guild leader is officially over 60 boss kills (AS included now), probably more, and still has nothing 😭🙏
I know someone said there’s a player with over 80 kills, probably close to 100 now, like give these players something, I don’t blame them for wanting a pity system 😭
Yeah but that’s 60 combined right? If I had to guess they’d make it 40 AS or 40 DN kills and I don’t think many have reached that
I also don’t blame them at all, I just think it’ll help them less than they think it will
Pity systems aren’t exactly known for being generous sadly…
100%
going that long without a drop takes a toll on u
I just want them to get something, this ain’t fair to them imo
A pity system is supposed to do exactly that, protect the 5% unlucky ones
It’s supposed to not matter to the rest of the ppl who don’t need it
Best way to implement it is probably a fragment or token system where you get so many of a resource only used to make a specific boss drop after a boss kill (and also the chance to get the boss drop in the first place) that way it even benefits the players who already have the drops, and adds a perceived layer of depth to the game by connecting the bosses more to the other game mechanics
Main issue is many bosses haven’t been out for super long
DN has been out for 9 months now I think? And AS 1 month
People only reached 40 kills 2 months ago
True, but the reassurance now goes a long way, even if it ultimately it’s not kicked in for the bulk of the ppl
I still want my Tentacle
Not sure how much I’ve beaten Kraken
its wild that ppl already reached 8 drops within 9 months
Yeah like I said I’m all for it, I’m just curious how many people will actually proc the pity

Simply because it takes so damn long to reach it in the first place
It’s pretty insane how much RNG can skew yeah
0.6% to have 8 clads in 9 months
Oh definitely
It’s only 1/166
There’s definitely way more than 166 people that killed DN for 9 months
low but not that low compared to to other odds
Way more likely no?
like having no clad within that period is more unlikely than having 8 clads
Oh not to get a clad
is it not?
You wrote to get a clad 
Yeah 0 is more likely than 8
mans tryna get me to crash out lmfao😭
join me and @azure scarab
we're channeling the rage into this suggestion

4.8% to be cladless after 9 months, 0.6% to get 8 clads within 9 months
(9 months is ~49 kills)
Whats the chance for 5 Sinister Frags at this point, I remember it being pretty dumb when I got the 5th
But it’s been months since then
Idk how many AC kills xd
That’s understandable, I haven’t been counting any kills aside from AS really
When did AC release?
I posted my first AC kill in chat on June 5th, 2025 so that’d be about 32 kills (estimated assuming 1/week)
1 in about 2.7K
In that case, I am shocked I’ve gotten any other drops. Wish I had that luck for the AS
Day 23 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Technically somewhere in the alpha when they added the mission for it, first legit kill is #donator-general message 10/3/2025
Wooo you actually dug it up. The earliest I found was 3 days after that
Day 24 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Ehhhh
Day 25 of asking Madrona for a pity system
I @ the devs on day 100
thats when my begging reaches a new high or low depending on your perspective 
Youre cooked if you dont have a frag by then lol thats 2 1/2 months from now 
This mentality is the problem. Its not about having a frag or not, everyone should be in favor of this suggestion
Im not against it being implemented
Not like the pity system would even activate until 7 months after your first kill 
Pity means nothing for BS2 and probably BS3
I think for your first drop it would be nice to guarantee a drop within the first 20 battles but then again you will average a frag every 17 kills
And if you dont get any drops forever then itll even itself out as math does
I mean if someone havent gotten a drop at 6 months
More likely 35
Then you very much want the pity to kick in for them at said 6 months
35 kills is probably fine
I will say itll probably get evened out by if the devs introduce boss rush event every few months
Helps the 8% unluckiest people
This is a good suggestion.
The unlucky few benefit from this, most players probably won’t notice it.
If you’ve ever gone 50+ battles without a drop then you should get a drop from a system like this. If you got that many kills you’ve put in the effort and should be rewarded
Yeah 5-10% ppl benefitting from the pity system is ideal
For the vast majority it doesn't do anything
It just stops the 2 year outliers in z2 days
I just find it hilarious how so many people think pity will help them, they’re indirectly saying “I’m one of the unluckiest players” 
You’re much more likely to straight up get a frag than hit pity
I'd already be at it for the dread 
5% of the ppl will hit pity but 50% will get the morale boost
There’s also people complaining about frags being broken for BS2 and thinking pity will guaranteed save them
Those are the ones I find funny
Nah thats not happening for sure
People read pity and think “Omg I went 5 AS kills no drop that means a free drop for me!” 
Im so glad there's a pity for boss spawn timer because im about to hit it

Flexing on you
Hey I’m happy with my 2 frags if someone has 3 good for them :3
I’m not like @deft summit, biblical levels of greed
You should be happy after 6 clads and both AS drops
why have you summoned my sworn enemy 

Fresh reminder for you
Dw brio, we’ll still beat him in the strike
now you see what we’re up against
How many of them can even clear consistently….
Day 25 of hoping Brio forgets to beg
Ah but you see, I’ve killed 1 AS and therefore should be eligible to have 5 of each fragment
Day 26 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Damn, another day foiled
You see, I’ve killed the AS a long while ago already and have been begging for frag luck on my main ever since so where are my goddamned AS frags!!! 
Someone in your group is siphoning all your luck
Multiple actually 
I’m blaming spartan
5 people with only a melee frag, 4 with only ranged frags (of which there is Spartan with 2 of them) and the main character with both 
Clearly you were assigned to Brio’s team
Maybe your presence can give him a frag next 
You’re assuming I want Brio to get a drop 
Did you want spartan to get 2 🤣
Maybe I can steal another frag from this thread too
No but at least Spartan will now be obliged to carry me to T15 
I can do my regular 3m points and he can do the 9m to offset my 1m deficit 
-# calculations are difficult
Tough luck, no chance he will
Too washed 
my goat
So close to 4k messages
2 range frag better score 8 mil

Day 27 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Can’t wait for brio to get a frag and do a full 180 on this thread
Gonna be legendary
i would never abandon my cause 
Day 28 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Day 29 of asking Madrona for a pity system
I have done about 25 AC clears with no frag, and, 40+ DN clears with no drop, so yeah, a little something to push that along for me would be great
Brio can just stop doing AS
That way they’ll never get a Frag, and thus will be able to continue advocating for a pity system until they expire.
Alex please give brio a frag so I can watch him stop asking for this feature 
Nah, we need “Day 365”
i dont think anybody would want to see that side of me

I’m a big fan of people begging and groveling
make the imitation AS frags
It’s 500
and arguably worse than a Dexter fragment
I think your hate is scaring off the frags
Agreed he gotta learn to stop anti-frag hate and maybe he will bag one 
Will he become what he hates
It is inevitable
at this point a guaranteed drop is probably the only way I get a clad lol
So true!!!
ask for pity system, or 500 nanopods opening for buying one AS frag
Same here
Day 31 of asking Madrona for a pity system
btw i don't have this task scheduled into a calendar. I just remember to do this out of pure hatred
that is all
He will be reminded by one of the others, no doubt
that will be me
that's impossible because the AS frags run through my mind every time i open the game
5% daily chance that his rng rolls "forgot to post" 
Just make sure you are reminded of it even when you don’t open the game.
The day Brio forgets is the day we know he got a frag
He's got 20 minutes before the 24h mark
20 minutes has long passed
Hatred has consumed him to hate frag owners instead fighting for the noble couse
You are all insane if you think my hatred is something that can be forgotten so easily
Day 32 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Nah if its on the next day it doesnt matter
it's still within the day
Its 8pm right now for me

As a once very strong supporter of this idea, due to recent events of which I won’t discuss, I’m gonna have to disagree with this idea completely. @azure scarab


you were never one of us anyway
just like Boo
You lose salutes each day, your failure is inevitable
even if i must stand alone my mission will carry on 
I'll salute him all the same.
Sometimes we just forget to 💀
Day 33 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Time to ditch the tent and start working on a long term shelter here
Maybe a bunkhouse, perhaps?
I got a happy shack for you brio
One day, when you've become the dictator you always knew you could be, you will peer down upon the toiling proles from the upper balcony of your palatial palace-slash-fortress, and you will wonder to yourself, "Was achieving this kind of power worth all the corruption, the purges, and the ruthless oppression of an innocent populace along the way?" And you will chuckle softly to yourself, and pour yourself another brandy, confident in the obviousness of the answer.
don't listen to them Brio, stay the course
the devil works overtime to claim your soul
Day 34 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Show no quarter
How tf do you scroll all the way to top, I cant read the initial post
I know im not THAT old
Is there not a button on threads
Tap a little bit above the title
or the up arrow top right of the thread
If on mobile,
Idk if my ui doesn't allow for it but i can't get that to work
What phone?
Samsung foldable
Yeah most apps aren’t very friendly to foldables 
Even on iPhone it’s just a random ghost button
can confirm, it works on my iphone but not the fold
That's crazy
First discord can't get an HDR streaming option to work for years, then this
Day 35 of asking Madrona for a pity system
Day 36 of asking Madrona for a pity system
I fu***** knew it
you of little faith. i will be redeemed
Day 37 of asking Madrona for a pity system
thanks for the reminder, I will make sure to go back and salute each day
oh my
Poor brio might be 4ever stuck in anger now
between this and #general message it seems like the drop system is working just fine so we can put this idea to rest
I’m sensing hate that has never been hated to ever hate seeing this hating message incoming
I can't believe a nuclear bomb just detonated at Madrona's offices. Crazy.
I'll send my thoughts and prayers on behalf of me never getting any ironclads 🙏
Billionaire telling the peasant they will make it big next season
Can you tell me what you did in your life to reach this level of luck?
Or does Alex take bribes? I’m not against bribing him if that’s the case
ah yes, working as intended, W game
Bruh, “3%” and there’s still people without anything😭
Congrats though 🎉
Here’s the hater version
the frags trickle down from the top 1% to the fragless trust
drip is pretty close
4 now
3 ranged frags is like playing whack a mole with enemies

Corey also has 4
its jover for brio
Always has been
so u reverse on the cause once u get the frag?

i hate fraggers
plot twist: there already is a pity system its just that nobody has reached the pity yet
I should be close with my GOD AWFUL CLAD DROPRATE
No... my ambition is greater than that. I fight for the future 6+ month fragless ones 
This is a righteous crusade
ONLY until you get a frag

People cant fathom wanting others to get drops too 💀
Good for me isn’t good for thee
This thread was beaten to the 4k mark by the other one
Bros even rocking the MM tag
Insane work
Hes an honorary MM member hes good 
Day 39 of asking Madrona for a pity system
As a new situation happens in my account, which I won't share details here, I have to change my opinion of starting against this proposal.
z3 bribes another man
More bodies stacked against me. It only makes my crusade more noble













