EAC issue with VR Chat (again) - READ PINNED MESSAGES :-)

[honest pulsar]

Anyway, we mods (I am mods on Italian community and on Reddit), We know from Shadow team higher ups that they have contacted several Devs regarding Easy Anti-cheat and there are ongoing discussions about it.

I attached you also the latest newsletter from Shadow support.

Anyway, 2 company to reach an agreement, takes from a few weeks to several months.

[still creek]

yeah. you need the dynamic bones in order to have everything move around on your avi

[barren yew]

Woah woah

[still creek]

nah. go get it rn

[inner portal]

Pancakes

[solemn locust]

From what I seen- i haven't saw any type of GoGo Loco or sitting down poses or anything do you actually need full body?

[still creek]

over waffles? yes!

[barren yew]

I remember this email

[cedar cliff]

can u tell me how PUHLEASE IVE BEEN TRYING FRO DAYS

[honest pulsar]

ok for the slang, which mean Is a negative thing, I know that, but it's better to not start to talk about this.

[pallid cosmos]

Vrchat should just make their own anti cheat if they can do so

[still creek]

no! :3 you can implement gogo loco but since i have full body i havent really but it on my avi

[hallow basin]

Wtf did i just walk in on?

[barren yew]

Ik kung fu

[inner portal]

There are ingame settings like vrchat has with sit and crouch, I personally have standable and it works great ngl

[keen aspen]

So it works for me for like a little bit then it started doing it again😨

[still creek]

what does it look like?

[solemn locust]

Thats what I'm currently using

[still creek]

mmmmm.. but do you know belt fu?

[hallow basin]

K*nky stuff

[inner portal]

Standable or real fbt

[barren yew]

That’s out of my jurisdiction

[solemn locust]

I see

[still creek]

no youre just weird lol

[still creek]

fulll bodyyyy babayyyyyyyy

[hallow basin]

Nah, i see a woman whooping a grown man...thats the only conclusion.

[inner portal]

U gotta show me today

[barren yew]

😟

[pallid cosmos]

Oh no I'm not getting another cooldown I'm out

[cedar cliff]

can u checks ur dms pls

[delicate viper]

WAITING FASTER

[inner portal]

Slimes or smth

[undone vault]

I never uploaded avatars to VR chat, but I was able to upload the avatars in a span of one day and by learning the basics on chill out VR it really isn’t that hard

[still creek]

yeah... youre def weird lol

[solemn locust]

Ny ankle and my chest tracker stopped working unfortunately

[icy stream]

I mean, at least we have a bit of hope tho

[still creek]

whattt thats crazy.. im sorry.

[hallow basin]

Whatever you say bud

[solemn locust]

Water.. that's all I gotta say...water...

[still creek]

i know its whatever i say <3 /j

[hallow basin]

You are seriously one weird little guy😅

[still creek]

stupid water

[inner portal]

HEY, dont u dare start another argument here

[honest pulsar]

Yeah, I agree. I believe that Easy Anti-cheat, being Shadow an open service, wants to protect itself well from potential hackers and cheaters, who are truly a plague.
"If you have a local PC and we ban you, let this be a lesson to you, since we don't want you anymore. You should read and respect the rules first" Basically this is what Epic think about it.

Or they prefer an agreement with a lot for money. ( milions ).

[still creek]

if i was weird i wouldnt be here lol

[dusky jay]

I canny tell if you two are joking between each other or not.. If not, please stop.

[delicate viper]

Hey pip

[inner portal]

Same

[still creek]

its jokes or atleast im joking lol

[inner portal]

Yea other guy dont looking very jokingly to me

[still creek]

hes getting ragebaited lol

[hallow basin]

Dude, that is literally me not starting an argument🤨 theyre the one that called me weird. And why are you and Cyyning still on that? Didnt yall tell me to drop it?

[honest pulsar]

But this is also EA, that change their minds about Virtual Machines, since they prefer to have partnerships via money vault.

[solemn locust]

Ikr its always getting in places where they don't need to be... like... inside the tracker....

[still creek]

oh god lol

[pallid cosmos]

I have more reason to believe this is only temporary to combat VM related hacking, and with alex message I believe it will come back at some point

[still creek]

did you atleast air them out for a while?

[hallow basin]

Well same here ig

[honest pulsar]

Yeah, which means coming days, weeks or months

[solemn locust]

Yup still didnt work... cooked.

[rotund grotto]

ofc

[pallid cosmos]

Bro

[still creek]

dang... are you gonna buy individual trackers?

[rotund grotto]

you can use real trackers on shadow??

how

[still creek]

i use slime

[barren yew]

Why not they discuss bypass one open pc like it so ugh cause of their cheat system was going right they shouldn’t have to block open servers or vm’s

[rotund grotto]

is it tailscale?

[pallid cosmos]

That's why I'm getting slimes so at least they work standalone and on pcvr

[rotund grotto]

how much is slime?

[still creek]

good!

[hallow basin]

Dude, i swear idk why people wont leave me alone over some old stuff😑

[honest pulsar]

Plus there's pinned messages, to confirm, of what we mods, heard from Shadow team: they have discussions

[still creek]

mmmmmm for good one i spent about $300 on mine lol but you can get some for like $185-200!

[rotund grotto]

damnn

[pallid cosmos]

Crowd supply can be around 200 to 300 depending on how much you want but trusted sellers can go for up to 25$ a tracker

[barren yew]

Depending on the company

[still creek]

duhhhh

[barren yew]

Fight?

[still creek]

on roblox? yes

[solemn locust]

Well I've been set on vive for awhile so I might do that

[barren yew]

Baddies?

[pallid cosmos]

Bro I'll best be dancing using slimes fr

[still creek]

yes! chest trackers are good!

[pallid cosmos]

Coming in march I believe

[barren yew]

When I get my trackers the first thing ima do is the no hands dance off TikTok

[still creek]

youre gonna be fantastic!

[solemn locust]

Wait you can use vive with slime trackers or sum?

[inner portal]

U can mix the 2?

[solemn locust]

Oh.

[pallid cosmos]

Already got the moves just need the tracking

[barren yew]

Idk if I can post eBay links in here

[pallid cosmos]

Why the lips

[still creek]

i mean if you got the moves you got the moves

[barren yew]

But I found these trackers to be 168 and my friend have them lmk if yall want it it comes with 5 trackers and it slime compatible

[solemn locust]

Oh yeah its over for people. Im gonna be on gremlin timing...

[still creek]

only five..? you need six beautiful.

[pallid cosmos]

[inner portal]

Hmm sounds nice

Minimum of slimes are 5 right

[barren yew]

Ik but 5 for 168 that’s a good price

[pallid cosmos]

No I'm gonna bust out the goat simulator dance

[honest pulsar]

On Nvidia GeforceNow, which is a OPT-IN System is different because it's Nvidia and I know, Nvidia, because they talked to the devs FIRST, create a .batch file to bypass the problem.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/comments/1oyvj3w/how_games_are_onboarded_not_ai_slop/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/comments/1oyvj3w/comment/np7n9lw/?context=3

This is also regarding, security system.

[still creek]

true but you need that chest tracker NEEEEEd

[pallid cosmos]

Why is it they don't support pcvr though

[barren yew]

My brother told I don’t why do I need it

[inner portal]

Chest is important for movement

[still creek]

you need the chest tracker so your body can move better instead of just your lower half.. its gonna look weird when you bend down. especialllyyyyyy if youre dancing... you need 6

[inner portal]

I mean u can potentially use standable for chest

[honest pulsar]

But it's a closed system and we're talking about Nvidia, which for devs, they partnership to have the hardware, new technologies such as Rtx, DLSS,Reflex, AI stuff etc...

[pallid cosmos]

I'm getting 6

[still creek]

good!

[barren yew]

But here’s the thing if their cheat system was working right they wouldn’t have to do all of that like they cheat systems actually blocks cheaters they wouldn’t have to worry about any bypasses or Vm

[maiden grove]

Mornin yall

[pallid cosmos]

I say vrchat make their own anti cheat

[barren yew]

Ok so 6 got u

[pallid cosmos]

Heyo!

Thanks for stopping in earlier!

[barren yew]

If they have the developers they can’t even focus on making quest better

[maiden grove]

My friend has only 5 vives as someone with 6compared to his lil vive mine look 10x better all bc of my chest tracker lmao

[pallid cosmos]

True that

[still creek]

thank you lol

[pallid cosmos]

Hopefully my crowd supply trackers are good

[still creek]

jeez.. you got them from the website... i feel bad for you. lol

[barren yew]

I was gonna use VD for my arms

[maiden grove]

The chest is a big need regardless of dancing etc when u walk with only 5 ur body movements are very wobbly like a inflatable, u clip more through things, and trust twin when sitting etc you’ll look like a hun back or overly stiff

[pallid cosmos]

I already know I purchased them during the time I could have spent less and get better slimes

[maiden grove]

That’s fine I do aswell it’s rlly good

Mine are from the website and look really really good

[barren yew]

So 6 I guess I’ll spend 200 sum but that would be 10 trackers 😭

[still creek]

do you have slimes?

[maiden grove]

It’s just a random pull tbh for how crappy sum can be also due to people’s wifi and latency plus if they are setting them up right

[maiden grove]

Yep! And more soon

[still creek]

you can literally buy an individual tracker lol dont do that

[barren yew]

Ima send u the link

[still creek]

how long did it take for yours to come in? :<

[pallid cosmos]

If all goes good for my content creation with slimes being involved then I'll probably get more from a trusted seller

[maiden grove]

Ordered them late December for them the first of Jan lol

[swift latch]

still no vrc 💔

[inner portal]

Yo mini if i get the venti slimes where do I put on the 5 if i want to walk around and lift my feet up

[plush warren]

I assume no updates? 🥺 Sigh

[still creek]

you mustve got them right when the new shipment was coming out.. alot of people are stuggling with push back dates and everything.

[maiden grove]

Slimes e good regardless they r good to start out with get the handle of the Fbt side of things and hella teach you something’s to

[pallid cosmos]

Yes there is

[velvet fox]

Yup

[plush warren]

Oo lemme check pinned

[maiden grove]

lol yea no I heard and yea I did hehehehe I waited

[barren yew]

I sent the link

[inner portal]

Nope

[still creek]

two on the ankles two above the knees one on your crotch area. im fat so i have to put my tracker on the tip of the tailbone

[plush warren]

So what does that give us - that they’re in the works to try and fix it still or it’s remaining banned

[velvet fox]

Either or

[inner portal]

I got 5 tho

[plush warren]

Sigh!

[still creek]

yes thats 5 love lol

[inner portal]

Huh oo yea i read that wrong mb

[barren yew]

I think she’s looking at the link 😓I hope I’m not cooked

[pallid cosmos]

Seems to me they blocked it temporarily based off my assumption because of bypassing and hacking, so maybe they're coming up with a solution to it

[solemn locust]

You're cooked

[velvet fox]

We won’t know until we get an update from vrc or epic games.

[left maple]

So they’re not fixing it

[plush warren]

Oh, the two companies that hate responding to their community! Yay!

[inner portal]

They are!

[velvet fox]

Unknown

[inner portal]

TODAY i the first day outside of the business week aparently where they start to work on it

[pallid cosmos]

If they mention other vms being a part of it then it's also malicious players who possibly caused a block using vms

[velvet fox]

So..maybe it’ll be fixed by this upcoming week?

[maiden grove]

Wouldn’t jump straight so saying they aren’t going to fix it.can miss lead people bc it’s either they r currently trying to hun or trying to figure out a way.

[barren yew]

Can you stop saying they gonna fix it and they are gonnna fix its confusing ppl who don’t know

[left maple]

Did you read one of the recent pins?

[maiden grove]

Didn’t mean they aren’t going to fix it

[dusky jay]

The reality is, we don't know what the outcome is going to be.

[velvet fox]

Exactly

[maiden grove]

Exactly

[velvet fox]

We won’t know until we get an announcement about it from VRC or Epic Games

[pallid cosmos]

Either way I'll be chilling having fun in standalone since now I can stream in a way so they can take their time if they need to

[delicate viper]

Just let vrc be free ffs from this curse because they are messing with people minds

[velvet fox]

True

But let’s all look at the bright side & just pray they whitelist us again <3

[plush warren]

Sigh! On the bright side, i found some cutie avis for quest!

[swift latch]

neither do that. vrchat and eac will just fix it and not say anything like last time or we'll just be banned and always in the dark about it on their end.

[pallid cosmos]

As much as I love PC vrchat I realize that I can still stream and have fun without pc vrchat

[velvet fox]

That’s a possibility

[delicate viper]

Indeed just I wanna make vids again

[velvet fox]

Oooo

[icy stream]

I mean, once again imma raise this question, why would they fix it and then just turn around and ban us if they wanted to do that they would have kept us gone in december

[plush warren]

this is how i’m feeling playing on quest; the quality is horrible tbf but honestly not killing me. i can be around my friends still, only thing that makes me sad is i can’t wear pc avis lol

[swift latch]

well, vrc has done that before and eac hasn't been active on any form of social media for about two years now so they definitely won't announce anything.

[delicate viper]

That’s what I’m saying

[plush warren]

but i’m buying both the steam machine and steam frame, so i’m gonna be ok within the next few months

[velvet fox]

Yeeeeaaa.

[maiden grove]

Standalone isn’t bad at all twins is still usable (besides the quality)

[pallid cosmos]

Yeah that and not hear toggles sounds or experience PC toggles, I just had fun today the fun is with the people you be chilling with

[icy stream]

I just feel lobotomized when im using standalone lol

[rotund grotto]

quality is awful

[maiden grove]

Exactly lol

[plush lantern]

would i be fine to post a slightly large comment about ChilloutVR vs VRC?

[rotund grotto]

im too used to pc graphics thats why

[maiden grove]

Oh

[vivid grove]

No new news i guessing?

[icy stream]

Nah fam

[maiden grove]

Nope hun nun here

[swift latch]

btw some of us have figured out how to convert vrc avatars over to chilloutvr. just saying.

[still creek]

si!

[plush lantern]

...gonna leave this here

ChilloutVR, while pretty damned good, still needs a fair chunk of work before it would be what i consider the “VRChat killer”. overall though, heres my thoughts

The Good

Nice Props system!

i like being able to spawn scripted trinkets and toys that me and my friends can mess around with together. while i wish things were more varied, thats more an issue of the community not being very big and not the game itself

Pretty Worlds

while some worlds aren't very nicely shaded, for the most part the worlds are still nice looking and much better optimized than VRChat!

Good Personalization

while i still prefer VRChats system of banners and colors and such, ChilloutVR’s is still pretty damn nice! again, I would rather the more simplified system of VRC, but this works just as well

Minor QOL things

• Nice transitions
• Pretty menus
• Good prop/avatars/worlds favorite limits

The Bad

DISCLAIMER: while some of these may be added through modding/changes/props, i still want to mention them here for the sake of not everyone liking/able to mod

Menus are odd

it can be a serious adjustment to how ChilloutVR’s menus look and feel compared to the segmented and tab-based VRC method. not the worst when you get used to it, but needs work

Lack of real “game” worlds

while there are board game props and such, i still think its such a shame that there arent better game worlds. hopeful once new and improved scripting comes, it’ll make life better

Odd gravity

jumping gravity in worlds can be.. off. it feels very sharp, like theres little to no smoothing in the process which… i suppose isnt the worst?

Minor Nitpicks

• Odd settings layout
• Toggle menu is confusing
• Voice falloff is WAY too high by default

[pallid cosmos]

I had to use cast to stream today, that was a experience

[still creek]

jesus christ...lol

[maiden grove]

Is it easy or is it like a pain and headache ?.

[plush lantern]

shhhhhhhhh lmao

dont tell pip i posted that or he'll kill me lol

[swift latch]

the only thing we have left is figuring out toggles but that's it. besides that, you can literally take avatars from last year and convert them to be ready for their game. it's a bit complex til you get used to it but possible.

[honest pulsar]

Even Boosteroid team, say, there are several rounds of discussion but it's not easy.

That's come from Boosteroid PR

Hi,
I’m Max, the Boosteroid PR guy.
I’m sure many others feel when it comes to our handling of the game onboarding.
You are right, paying customers do deserve honesty and transparency. My response will be completely honest and as transparent as it possibly can be. 
[...]
In certain cases, including some popular titles, the games launch and run smoothly, but then during internal tests one of our accounts gets banned due to anti-cheat mechanisms detecting a VM. This causes us to take a longer route to eliminate any reason for a real user to get banned just because they played via Boosteroid. This can include technical changes on our side and/or cooperation with the publisher.
In other cases, the anti-cheat system won’t let the game start on a virtual machine at all. In this case, we absolutely need to cooperate with the developer and/or publisher.*
There are many stances a publisher can take. Some just don’t care if their game is on a cloud gaming service but are initially reluctant to remove technical barriers created by their anti-cheat. Others are very open to cooperation. Many cases are completely unique.
Sometimes, we can add certain games from a publisher, but can’t add another until a round of negotiations and/or technical updates on either side take place. [... ]

For the full test and proof:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BoosteroidCommunity/s/zcW3K6No4t

[verbal wyvern]

[barren yew]

It’s a freaked out VR game

[maiden grove]

ermmm

Was replying to someone sorry not u joker

[plush lantern]

its a really good alternative to VRC, at least till/if they fix it

[dusky jay]

Well you didn't break any rules etc so you're fine 🤷‍♂️ I don't kill people for the lols

[swift latch]

we all had a blast, including actual full on pc players that could've gotten on vrc last night but chose to play w us instead.

[mossy locust]

Btw u need a pc to be able to side load slime vr to use it in stand alone i thought i could without but cant

[solemn locust]

Umm..

[vivid grove]

I was considering it but ive been exploring videos on resonite recently looks cool to modify stuff in game anywhere

[pallid cosmos]

Can't you use phone?

[maiden grove]

No-? U can use ur phone etc tf?

[barren yew]

Smh😔

[solemn locust]

No you dont.. you can use your phone...

[mossy locust]

It wasn't letting me when i tried

[maiden grove]

U can! Any electronic that’s able to download it u can

[solemn locust]

It depends on what type of wifi you have

[dim island]

Good morning!

[swift latch]

I don't know much about resonite but I got told that it doesn't have much to do compared to chillout

[mossy locust]

I have good wifi

[maiden grove]

I have 2.4 and 5g mixed

[inner portal]

2.4ghz

[mossy locust]

I have 5g

[barren yew]

Spice with that flashlight scared me

[inner portal]

Slimes run on 2.4ghz

[mossy locust]

I run everything on pc just fine i run both 5g and 2.4

[dim island]

Merry Halloween 👻

[inner portal]

YEA HOW DO I RUN THEM ON SHADOW i dont understand the damn stuff in my thread

[weary iron]

I might try out chillout later when my sickness isn’t pulling me into a rapture

[mossy locust]

I can message u on how to do it if u like

[swift latch]

LMAOOOO I love spice

[inner portal]

Yea pleasee causee i dont get this damn slimestp or how thats called

[spice grotto]

I don’t think I wanna play chill out vr my friends aren’t on that

[plush lantern]

heres a summary of whats happening from my point of view

VRC has stated they quote, "cannot fix this from our position, and are in talks with EAC and Epic about finding a solution"

ShadowPC has no point in this debate, and as Pip so ellequently put it, "is the kid in the middle of arguing parents"

EAC is the main force thats causing the issue, and from what I can see (since we haven't seen otherwise), they are whos at fault. if we wanna message anyones support, we should message theirs

however, given what ive read, they dont respond to like, anyone

[solemn locust]

Wait wut

[swift latch]

I'm gonna look into resonite and such too probably and tell y'all what I think of them so maybe, we'll end up with more than one to play while vrc is down. bc resonite has an active content creator community btw.

[plush lantern]

then talk to them, ask them to get on occasionally and chill

[mossy locust]

I dmed u

[spice grotto]

Yea they not doing that they play vrchat

[solemn locust]

Me too pls

[mossy locust]

How to hook up the slimes to shadow pc

[solemn locust]

Yes

[plush lantern]

have you asked them? dm them, let em know whats going on and show them chilloutvr

[rigid coral]

is chill out fbt compat

[plush lantern]

yea! very actually, moreso than even VRC id go so far as to argue

[solemn locust]

Without the brigde data thingy

[spice grotto]

Oh trust me Ik how my friends feel about it so there’s no point lol

[swift latch]

yes. my boyfriend was even able to use his vives and tons of people had slimes on there too.

[plush lantern]

i love also that this channel is slowly going from "man VRC sucks" to "man Chillout aint that bad"

[pallid cosmos]

They pulling a Roblox type of response, no response until enough pressure is put on them

[swift latch]

and you don't have to constantly calibrate like on vrc btw. it's a lot smoother.

[plush lantern]

nah, try. explain that you gotta use it for now, and its what would work best if they wanna hang out

[solemn locust]

Ok so im not the only one l- LMAO

[swift latch]

chillout has A LOT of cool features just in their programming alone. not even talking about the worlds and such.

[lethal ocean]

How long this is taking is making me wonder, are we gunna get vrc back?

[pallid cosmos]

Idk bro unfortunately none of us do

[spice grotto]

I would but we have events and stuff tonight and I’m the host so I have to go in as quest😭

[plush lantern]

as it stands? we dont know. supposedly some folks (Shadow or VRC, im not sure) are in-talks with EAC about the situation, but thats just rumors

[swift latch]

we met a lot of cool people that taught us all about it. everyone was so sweet.

[thin valley]

It was so amazing

[still creek]

love you lol

[solemn locust]

X3

[swift latch]

I love you too pookie

[rotund grotto]

can you use standablee on chilloutvr

[thin valley]

Good morning btw guys

[pallid cosmos]

[thin valley]

Yessss

[plush lantern]

hi rose, we're peddeling CVR to everyone again lmao

[still creek]

lol yep

[swift latch]

I sound like an advertisement but I used to be so against it and then I actually tried it fully last night and ong, it's a lot more fun w friends.

[plush lantern]

gonna make one more big message, request Pip to pin it, then piss off

[thin valley]

I know, it’s interesting to see, I’m like fuzzy brained rn cause I just woke up

[still creek]

definetly

[solemn locust]

Welp I guess we switching to chillout VR

[swift latch]

we're gonna be on again tonight if you guys wanna join and I've been learning a lot about the menu so I can help out if need be. ^-^

[lethal ocean]

All right folks, i think i might crack into my funds from the car wreck trial i had, might use a good bit of that funds to get me a pc, still thinking on it

[thin valley]

ILL BE THERERRRRR

[solemn locust]

Might as well get with the program

[swift latch]

HELL YE

[normal nexus]

So responsible

[lethal ocean]

Yup

[maiden grove]

??!

[still creek]

ill be there too!!!!!

[thin valley]

Till it’s either fixed or confirmed it’s not happening, I’m hoping it’s a temporary thing

[pallid cosmos]

Maybe I'll get back into making music again to see if I can make some money to afford a PC

[still creek]

same

[solemn locust]

Bet can I participate? Its Friday im lowkey trying to party

[swift latch]

might try my hands at uploading an avatar before tonight. I just hope someone teaches us about toggles to help us out or else I just have to choose the clothes I want on it in unity before I convert it ig.

[still creek]

dms!

[solemn locust]

BET

[swift latch]

yeah! we even have a server. mini can invite you!

[still creek]

i got you beautiful

[solemn locust]

Amazing

[thin valley]

This is gonna be fun

[weary iron]

What time

[swift latch]

oh? you gonna walk me through it? lol

[plush lantern]

Right now, we don't know whether or not VRChat will return to working on ShadowPC again, and no official statement has been released saying it will or won't. People are saying that they are in talks with EPIC themselves, but we don't know anything certain yet.

A good alternative that several people are turning to is ChilloutVR. While not quite as refined as VRChat, it's a worthy substitute until we get confirmation one way or the other.

While it's suggested you keep an eye on pins, please, do not listen to anyone saying it will come back in a few days, weeks, whatever timeframe unless you see hard evidence of such in pins if you don't want to get your hope up. Sending false info, rumors, theorys, or other things will only make it harder for everyone else to get good information. As it stands, all we can do is wait.

Again, please don't say the game will be back in any timeframe unless word comes down from either VRChat or EAC themselves and you have screenshot proof of such.

[still creek]

well if thats what you want <3 i get how explaining things can be overwhelming sometimes to people. but ill send you everything that you need <3

and ill help as much as possible

[maiden grove]

Im jus tryna have hope it get fixed within the new weeks before next month

[swift latch]

I'd appreciate that and if i can't figure it out on my own, I'll definitely come to you for some help.

[plush lantern]

we've got a small taskforce of me and @narrow egret on the scene

ive cracked uploading stuff, and they're gonna help me figure toggles out

[still creek]

yes also these people can help aswell

[swift latch]

oh bet! ^-^

[pallid cosmos]

Wish I could learn and understand those type of things but it's like I can't even hardly understand how to upload a avi to vrchat

[plush lantern]

hey @dusky jay is it ok to ask you to pin this? just so people quit asking about it and posting more false hopes of "it'll be back in a week!! this guy said this guy said this guy said epic said its coming back!!!111!!1!!"

[plush lantern]

preciate you choom <3

[swift latch]

cool bc I wanna upload my main, even if i can't do the fully edited version of her since like the plastic keys and such won't work on cvr.

[maiden grove]

If u want help with vrchat Avis I can help you when ur down for it I upload on the daily you just would need to be In a vc im horrible explaining over text

[jovial vine]

oh u need to download something for that

[swift latch]

I know. a few people have already figured out conversion and I'm gonna try to.

[plush lantern]

if you need help transfering avatars or learning the SDK, ask either me, Valentine, or my friend LustfulLavender. we're both learning pretty quick, and the server/ingame folks are SUPER helpful for learning

[cinder kayak]

Does anyone know if GeForce is doing the same this “ can not run under virtual machine “ ?!?

[weary iron]

Only reason I kept using shadow is cause I need a WiFi adapter for my pc to connect it to vrchat

[plush lantern]

we're doing what we can to practice and posting our results in the serevr as we go as our own makeshift documentation

[solemn locust]

No

Its not doing that at all

[swift latch]

the only thing I think I'll struggle with is converting phys bones to dynamics.

[still creek]

i mean i did.. but i got them too work!

[pallid cosmos]

The one main one I have I did manage to figure it out least on the upload to PC and convert it to quest compatible, it's more so like editing Avis with different assets like hair and different types of hair hues and toggles like a mask for it so I could get it to look like my profile picture, but it's like walking into a lab and asking to make a rocketship with no experience

[icy stream]

So wait does chillout have like public avis? Or nah

[still creek]

if you guys need help with dynamic bones in your avatar lemme know!

[plush lantern]

yeah! not nearly as many as VRC sure, but they got a fair chunk!

[jovial vine]

yes

[swift latch]

yes. and some are nice.

[maiden grove]

Oh love I understand u 100%😂it can definantly feel like that lol

[swift latch]

oh? then I may come to you when it comes time for that once I figure out everything else.

[pallid cosmos]

Like cause for my quest avi I want the hair and eyes to be able to be changed different colors or styles also on quest, and to have a mask on it, my dumb ah would probably buy a asset and just put it into a asset folder expecting it to work

[plush lantern]

theres no quest on ChiloutVR

[pallid cosmos]

Talking about vrchat

[plush lantern]

ahhhhh my fault my fault

[pallid cosmos]

All good dw

[maiden grove]

Hmmmm I’ll fiddle with my avi and see what I can do for ya bc the eyes changing is simple and easy that’s a toggle thingy

I don’t mess with quest side of stuff but I’ll try and help ya out

[pallid cosmos]

Like on PC it changes its hair and eye colors but quest version of it you can't do that at all

[weary iron]

Has anyone used GeForce now b4, is it reliable for running pcvr or using trackers

[pallid cosmos]

GeForce now doesn't support pcvr unfortunately

[maiden grove]

Is this a paid avi u have? Or is it one u made?

[pallid cosmos]

Paid Avi from TheIceDragon

[weary iron]

Ohhh it doesn’t do Microsoft? Is it js for pc games

[swift latch]

it does neither

[pallid cosmos]

Dave

[rare edge]

Vr still down? Gotta go to work just need a y or n

[maiden grove]

Yep

[plush lantern]

yeah. most people here are transfering over to ChilloutVR

[mossy locust]

Better off buying a pc pc at this point bro

[rare edge]

What’s that??

[pallid cosmos]

I don't know on that part sorry

[mossy locust]

my opinion

[plush lantern]

a substitute of VRChat, more open-source. while its community is really small (only about 100 people), we're aiming to grow it since theres a non-zero chance this VRC ban is permanent

[pallid cosmos]

Well even with that, PC players are still being prone to EACs crap

[rare edge]

Ahhhhhh okok I’ll try it out

[plush lantern]

exactly. its causing more issues that its worth

[still creek]

wanna join server?

[rare edge]

Down

[plush lantern]

it locked down like, half of the damn game at one point just cause it was freaking out

[still creek]

dms!

[thin valley]

We could all have fun together and enjoy each other company till things are figured out

[mossy locust]

True but less likely

[pallid cosmos]

Less headache too

[magic horizon]

I'm noticing the same conversation keeps happening in here of vrchat saying they cant do anything its nots vrchat or Shadow's fault and EAC is maybe looking for permanent solution so this doesn't continue to happen

[undone hornet]

does it have a rave comunity?

[pallid cosmos]

Okay guys goodnight y'all, take care of yourselfs

[plush lantern]

no, but you can start one up yourself

[plush lantern]

we know (kinda not really) for certain this is on EAC

[thin valley]

I think it does, but we can find out tonight and if it doesn’t we’ll be the first

[still creek]

Yes! we have a swigs-n-rigs night tonight on CVR!

[plush lantern]

If any of you are considering ChilloutVR, I suggest you check out this smaller post I made documenting ups and downs of Chillout compared to VRC. I'll be making a bigger post though!

[still creek]

hm.

[weary iron]

Again curious, what time is everyone planning to get on it tonight

If I don’t pass out before then from being sick I’ll join up

[still creek]

we dont know yet but i will let you know

[swift latch]

omg so the creator of my main avatar only doesn't allow public uploads or resells, meaning I absolutely can upload her as private for myself on cvr! let's gooooo!!

[weary iron]

Aye aye

[undone vault]

Hell yeah

[still creek]

thats awesome!!!! mine is private aswell =w=

[undone hornet]

tempting

[still creek]

well the creator of my avatars that i bought got wiped off of vrchat like a year ago

[thin valley]

WE ARE GONNA HAVE SO MUCH FUN WITH IT!!!

[swift latch]

I wouldn't have made her public anyways since she was like 40 and once we figure out toggles and everything, she'll have assets i bought on her but still. had to check that any personal use was allowed just to be safe.

[still creek]

its always good to check things before ya get in trouble :>

[undone hornet]

i wont get on tonight but if its not fixed in a week, ill reach out to some people and see if i can get a lineup together lmao

[swift latch]

now I just need to figure out how to select textures to change them in unity since I have to customize her how I want for now til we figure out toggles. lol

[undone hornet]

click the model, under skinned mesh renderer, you'll see the texture. Click it to highlight it under your assets

[swift latch]

oooo thank you

[balmy barn]

Freddy why you trying not to laugh bruh

[undone hornet]

you may also have to expand the shader settings to see it

[swift latch]

okay, thank you :3

[undone hornet]

no worries

[runic crystal]

These prices are outrageous

[sharp condor]

I also find it funny that VRC doesnt want to help in the slightest and just leaves everything to shadow to figure out

[honest pulsar]

Thanks for the words!

Then, here, the problem is that many then don't want to understand, that unfortunately getting two companies to an agreement, isn't something you can just "push a button and go." It can take even weeks, if not months, of discussions and negotiations and that everything can come/arrive to nothing.

[sharp condor]

This is extremely disgusting to their playerbase stating that they wont help us in the slightest if it does break.

[sharp condor]

I cant imagine how much of a mess it is right now with epic

[serene bay]

Im finaly hone

[normal chasm]

Epic should take my fortnite account trust, that’ll give them enough to bring shadow back

[fallen sandal]

I have a gaming desktop, that needs a new psu, and i have shadow pc, and i have a gaming laptop 💻 so lots of ways for me to be on vrc

[sharp condor]

Im fr just about to finance a gaming pc.

[fallen sandal]

Just get affirm from Walmart then use the affirm card to buy pc and make payments on it

[sharp condor]

My main store is Best Buy since walmart has horrible selections.

[fallen sandal]

Yeah im talking about affirm from walmart its like a credit card

[dull hill]

i started yesterday 😭 this whole thing pmo, im tired of not being able to play certain games

[sharp condor]

You got any interest?

[fallen sandal]

Poor thing

[oak summit]

I usually buy from bestbuy cause of the insurance policy they have for things you buy. Easy to get refunds for things ya know

[zenith verge]

I woke up and I see alot of people choosing violence.

[dull hill]

That’s where i ordered mine from, I can’t for it it come in😞

[sharp condor]

Boutta go into the store and just pick mine up

[runic crystal]

Ngl yea same

[normal chasm]

500+ skins will come in handy

[icy escarp]

Can someone help me with with unity

[craggy snow]

Yeah dm me I can help

[dim island]

Are yall able to launch shadow?

[slim sage]

Ong

[dim island]

Nvm I think it was js my wifi 💀

[zenith verge]

Like literally at 6 am 🗿

[plush lantern]

check pins yall

[zenith verge]

ah yes, Speculations.

[bleak rapids]

Good thing I’m saving up for a Monitor and PC

[maiden grove]

Just did a vrc check: status- not working

[zenith verge]

Well, if thats the case then I'll need to lock in for the next few months.

[maiden grove]

Same I get a new oc next month soooooo gonna be realm happy to leave this server once I do

[bleak rapids]

That’s so real, next paycheck I’m getting a monitor and then afterwards I’m saving 6-7 paychecks to get the PC I’m looking at

[green saffron]

Did they fix it yet

Or is it fixed in general so i dont go home and waste my time

[zenith verge]

On a Friday? In this Economy? Nah.

[frail forge]

It’s crazy that over 70,000 people use shadows for VR chat I think shadows cooked

[green saffron]

This aint rii to the ppl who paid good money to use shadow pc for vrchat specifically

[barren yew]

Ima get on CVR

[undone hornet]

idk, I think the potential revenue loss from shadow users might force vrc to pay for an EAC license

my guess is that epic knows this and has a bargaining chip because of it

i might hop on and see if i can get my vrcdn link to work in a rave world. if the eac thing isnt fixed, ill have to start djing in chillout lol

[cinder sable]

Lmao

[dull hill]

You see I would, but it’s like -19 outside and feels like -30 😭

[cinder sable]

Same here

Like I just checked pretty much the same lmfao

[zenith verge]

Also, W Wacka Enjoyer.

[astral apex]

I just want it to be fixed because I enjoyed streaming and everything, don’t get me wrong I use shadow pc for other things like unity and other games, I just miss my vrchat streaming.

[silver leaf]

A whole week now with this issue. The holiday made sense why it wasn't immediately fixed over the weekend but a week is damn unexcusable for something that was unintentional in the first place.

[plush lantern]

check pins yall

[astral apex]

I’m testing out something because my curiosity got the best of me

[zenith verge]

Seen em

[unkempt forum]

feels like -43 here </3

[wet verge]

Do y'all think I'm able to get a refund for the past month since I wasn't able to use my PC at all

Not even just with the eac think it's just been really slow and unuseable

[cedar cliff]

giys does anyone know why the dynamic bones component isnt showing uo when i try to add it

[still creek]

are you in the server?

[cedar cliff]

which

[undone hornet]

tonight it will pretty much be -43 here

thats not with windchill either

[dusky jay]

Reach out to Shadow Support, only way to find out.. But likely no. But they will assist you with any issues you may have.

[unkempt forum]

oh jeez:((

[astral apex]

I have checked pins, it’s the same response every time. It’s getting old, one moment it’s, oh it’s getting fixed, oh it’s not getting fixed, we’re in the talks, it’s so and so’s fault, no it’s their fault. It’s just a back and forth game of the same things. Wouldn’t this have to come down to ALL three companies talking, if this has been made compatible before it should be able to do it again. I see hardly any reasonable excuses other than “oh we can’t fix the issue without cooperation from so and so.” There’s been zero cooperation, an uprise in anxiety and panic due to everyone just doing the same thing over and over in this chat. Some people have been patiently waiting putting their faith on the companies only to be treated horribly by some staff and community members. (SN:Not by all the companies.) Again the issues that have been pinned is just the same information every-single-time.

Vrchat is showing absolutely no interest in wanting to help because “VMs were never compatible to begin with.” Even though shadow was so it makes no sense
Shadow is trying their hardest to keep everyone calm but it keeps uprising the more we wait.
EAC honestly isn’t helping at all either when it’s their service that is causing the problem.

In all reality, Vrchat should be contacting EAC seeing what they can do to make this compatible again instead of brushing everything off their shoulders and doing nothing to help the people who want to play their games but can’t because of the anti-cheat.

Meanwhile shadow should be in the communication zone so they can update us and give us more hopeful information.

Which it’s looking like that would never happen because it’s a conflict between all of them pointing fingers, two at VRChat, one at shadow and a bunch at EAC.

This is kinda how I’m seeing it, it’s just utter chaos.

Side note: sorry for the paragraph

[undone hornet]

With VRC using the free version of EAC and with the free version not allowing VRC to configure allowing VMs, Epic kinda has VRC right where they want them right now. VRC seems to be backed into a corner where they either lose that portion of their playerbase, or fork over money for an EAC license to allow VM users

im guessing thats why they have been 'negotiating'

[old frost]

I don't think eac has a paid version, EOS is EAC and it's avaliable to anyone.

[foggy cliff]

Looks like we r all stuffed then

[undone hornet]

(this is all just a theory btw)

[astral apex]

Well just take note it’s my opinion and what I’ve observed so far.

[zenith verge]

A game theory

[undone hornet]

EOS is free, but there is enterprise licensing available that offers more control

[foggy cliff]

Looks like no vrc pcvr for months years or even at all 🙁

I’m sad

[undone hornet]

maybe, maybe not, depends on the decision between Epic and VRC, but.. knowing epic

[foggy cliff]

Oh

I guess epic won’t but they did before Xmas

[astral apex]

Honestly I’m gonna be getting an actual PC soon, I’ve been binge renovating to have a nice setup and room to move around.

[foggy cliff]

I can’t afford one sadly my only option is shadow

[astral apex]

I do wanna make sure people see this though.

[delicate viper]

Same sadly

[astral apex]

I can’t either, one of my friends are gonna help me get one because they like seeing me stream.

[foggy cliff]

Lucky

[undone hornet]

my friends also like to watch my stream. it kinda weirds me out when im just trying to take a leak

[wet kite]

Day god knows what and still nothing

[foggy cliff]

is there a way contact this eac

[delicate viper]

This situation is we are pointing fingers at who fault is it

No it’s vrc fault
No Its shadows
No it’s EAC (real answer)

[thorny geyser]

Eac is agonizingly hard to contact direct

[maiden grove]

Seen this and honestly could be on to sum bc it does seem valid if that’s the case

[gaunt zenith]

Everything abt this is just scummy, I feel like most businesses are just corporate scumbags

[velvet fox]

Maybe if Epic Games would wake up and realize that people who use VMs don’t intend to use it to hack or cheat or anything. Most of us can’t even afford physical pcs and really..Shadow PC is the only affordable cloud gaming pc that most of us can even use. Because of tight budgets.

[undone hornet]

its just a theory, but I imagine epic executives sitting there rubbing their hands together

[foggy cliff]

I thought it was a mistake before and they were sorry n fixed it and now again ? So why can’t they just do same

[latent loom]

Maybe???.

[lusty atlas]

This thread gives me anxiety 🫩

[delicate viper]

Exactly

[undone hornet]

same, im going to take a blinker

[lusty atlas]

One day it’s gonna be fixed, one day it’s not like shawty 🫩

[latent loom]

Yeah, people firstly said its gonna be fixed on tuesday, then thursday like bro

[lusty atlas]

I mean I mainly believe it’s gonna be fixed but it’s taking longer because there looking for a longer solution but all y’all making me think otherwise with your bad mojo jojo 😭

[latent loom]

Right

[foggy cliff]

Same

[fiery glacier]

How long has it even been with they outage

[delicate viper]

It’s been a week for us

[undone hornet]

this is a possibility too, Epic could be putting in the resources and effort to whitelist only shadow

[foggy cliff]

Does anyone use shadow pc to play inzoi btw ?? what plan do u use to play it

[fiery glacier]

Gah damn

[dusky jay]

No one knows if it's going to be resolved. Not even Shadow, as it's out of their hands.

[thorny geyser]

Ive already lost hope.

[lusty atlas]

Thank you Papa Pip, you make me feel sm better 🫩

[undone hornet]

(i doubt it though, its epic, they arent in it for the love of the game)

[fiery glacier]

Right

[dusky jay]

Just gotta wait and hope

[fiery glacier]

We’ve hoped for so long bruv

[split rain]

So what’s going on

[lusty atlas]

I’m still hoping but I’m also tired

[undone hornet]

ill just ask tupper if i can pay the cost for enterprise licensing, it couldnt be more than like $5, right guys?

[lusty atlas]

I make content and made money off of this and now I literally can’t, I’m a disabled college student who’s cooked

[foggy cliff]

I have be a questie lol

[split rain]

I had fun on quest with my slimes but I wish I could use my face tracking

Is it snowing for anyone tho ?

[fervent shale]

Shadow is making more than enough money from us to sit at the table to negotiate something

[lament night]

Nope

[split rain]

Same

[fiery glacier]

Not yet the snow here doesn’t start till around 6pm cst

[undone hornet]

but shadow has nothing to do with it, no pull

[lament night]

Ppl bought out the stores here in texas for nothing

[fiery glacier]

Jesus

[astral apex]

In in the middle of the war zone literally tomorrow

[split rain]

I’m telling everyone no way it snows here they say that every year

[split rain]

Dang

[astral apex]

I’ve got snow/ice so idk what ya talking about

[foggy cliff]

course just rain here in England

[split rain]

I just got a little rain

[dusky jay]

Shadow is ultimately at the mercy of Devs and EAC (And other Anti cheats). They can simply just say no.. Like Riot have done for years.

[lament night]

Im gonna pull my hair out

[split rain]

Imma just save money

[lusty atlas]

I’m gonna cry

[undone hornet]

those RAM prices though 😬

[foggy cliff]

Same 🙁 I’m panicking

[lusty atlas]

This is literally the worst time for this to happen because of the current prices of pcs

[split rain]

Imma get a prebuilt it’s only like 940 or a lil more dollars

[foggy cliff]

I know 🙁

[dusky jay]

The thing that irks me is that IF VRC are fine with Shadow users being on VRC.. Why aren't they working with EAC - to which they've chosen to use, to get it done. Such a weird situation.

[split rain]

Fr

[undone hornet]

wherever you found that, jump on it. surprised they arent capitalizing on the cost of RAM rn

[warped pendant]

Because Tupper doesnt care v.v

[split rain]

Well I need to at least save for 4 weeks and I doubt I could lock in that long

[undone hornet]

its ultimately an Epic decision, and they have this as a bargaining chip

[lusty atlas]

Im happy for those people who are actually grtting pcs off of this situation but with my situation I can’t get nothing and it’s just not fair

[dusky jay]

But he's just a CM though right? Surely it's the owner of VRCs decision.

[foggy cliff]

Same 🙁

[warped pendant]

True i keep thinking he owns vrc lol

[dusky jay]

But if VRC cared, they'd do something. Or change anti cheat with more options.

[fervent shale]

So they need to update the app info because now it’s seeming like false advertisement

[foggy cliff]

So we all need go at vrc then ??

[undone hornet]

they can only do that if they have enterprise level support though, which from what ive seen, they do not

[warped pendant]

So many have tried just to be yelled at sadly

[undone hornet]

you would think they could cover it though, but idk, their only source of income afaik is vrc+

[fervent shale]

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[split rain]

What is bro yappin about

[undone hornet]

I already have a shadow subscription, u dont need to advertise to me tyvm

get this man on the marketing team right away

[vapid blaze]

Indeed

[dusky jay]

They have all the info they need on the FAQ.

[fervent shale]

Gotcha

[dusky jay]

Granted the VR Chat ad page is still live, which I've just pushed to Shadow staff.

[foggy cliff]

so we r done

[fervent shale]

Well that’s fair I guess

[undone hornet]

it aint over til its over

[foggy cliff]

Iv got no hope now

[delicate viper]

The bell didn’t ring yet

[undone hornet]

its not over til the fat lady sings

[split rain]

I gave up hope ages ago I’m just here just in case

[foggy cliff]

lol

[delicate viper]

It’s been a week

[foggy cliff]

Yeah too long

[split rain]

7 years …

[delicate viper]

7!

[undone hornet]

6 or 7?

[foggy cliff]

67 :p

[split rain]

Maybe even 67

URL fail

[astral apex]

LEAVE IT IN 2025

[foggy cliff]

lol

[vapid blaze]

Plz

[dusky jay]

It shouldn't have even started, it has no meaning at all.

[astral apex]

EXACTLY

[foggy cliff]

I don’t get it either kids say it all time still lol

[undone hornet]

6 7 son or googoogagaga daughter?

[astral apex]

Mook

[split rain]

Can I get a pound of gabagool

[honest pulsar]

Vrchat, use the free version of Easy Anti-cheat, so they don’t want to do anything.

[dusky jay]

... Huh

[vapid blaze]

W vrc

[undone hornet]

yea?

[astral apex]

I wanted to do a birthday stream Sunday

[astral apex]

Shush with the brainrot

[vapid blaze]

Someone needs to get fired on vrc side

[lusty atlas]

What about EAC..

[split rain]

A lot of people are probably on a list in vrc in general

[undone hornet]

why? its out of vrcs hands

[split rain]

Bc they don’t care mainly

[dusky jay]

Only cause they've made it as such.

[vapid blaze]

Nvm someone needs to get fired

[dusky jay]

It's not like they are being held at gun point by EAC

Unless they are lol

[vapid blaze]

You might be on to something

[undone hornet]

should i just try to seduce tupper next time i see him at shelter?

[split rain]

Maybe

[undone hornet]

good enough for me

[split rain]

Nah burn it twin

[rugged reef]

Yeah this is starting to get ridiculous like I want a refund for this month that I paid for simple as that

[oak summit]

I think shadow needs to update their page, it's starting to turn into false advertisement

[maiden grove]

No ik

[honest pulsar]

But Epic know, there are people that, to bypass HWID ban using Virtual Machines service to try to re-play. Therefore Epic blocks everything to avoid problems ( apart on Nvidia GeforceNow because it's OPT-in system /devs decision ) Than it's up to the players to use other ways (buy a physical PC again). Epic doesn't really care. Unfortunately, that's the way it is.

[maiden grove]

They don’t give refunds love

[undone hornet]

why? you were given the product you paid for

[split rain]

Shadow has nothing to with it this came out of the blue dawg

[dusky jay]

Update what ?

[serene bay]

Ypur incompatable gsmrs its so outdsted

[oak summit]

Aren't they still advertising the fact you can play vrc on shadow?

[undone hornet]

its literally in the unsupported games list and has been for a while

[split rain]

How you got a lisp through text 😭

[dusky jay]

Well the ad page is still live yes, I have made them aware.. As for incompatible games it was literally updated and they have the FAQ I posted a while ago.

[serene bay]

Dude i only bave one rye rn chill

[honest pulsar]

It's a Question to say to Epic Games. ( Easy anti-cheat ).

[delicate viper]

Did someone said Gabagool

[oak summit]

Yes I know, but the ad page needs changing so no one gets all uppity anymore

[split rain]

[undone hornet]

still wouldnt be considered false advertising as there are multiple disclaimers that support is subject to change

[serene bay]

Gabagool? IM WALKIN HERE

[split rain]

Blame epic games and eac since they are the ones in control all we can do is wait fr but about that gabagool gimmie

[rugged reef]

lol idk it sucks cause I know it’s not technically their fault but I will say shadows about to lose a lot of business

[undone hornet]

I could go for a pound of gabagoo

[serene bay]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-soprano-james-gandolfini-the-sopranos-drawing-painting-gif-14648608313489473242

[vapid blaze]

Yo epic games stop fixing Fortnite and start fixing you’re EAC DAMN

[dusky jay]

Which they don't want and are fighting to not happen.

[undone hornet]

If its not resolved, thats probably what will happen, but shadows hands are tied

[cinder sable]

Tell them that I'm their server not shadow pc

[rugged reef]

No like I said it sucks cause I know it’s not them

[serene bay]

Ehy dont shadow use real parts that would resolve all the issues instead of using servers

[vapid blaze]

Ik aghhhhh

[gaunt zenith]

Im assuming you know what's going on with love and deepspace or that they have a lawsuit

The same thing happened because they didn't listen to their users

[vapid blaze]

I just realized we reached 24k comments on here

[dusky jay]

I have no idea.

[undone hornet]

TRUE, if shadow stopped using fake parts made out of thin air using AI, it would work

[serene bay]

EXACTLY

[undone hornet]

Like if shadow was actually hosted on real hardware? Omg?

[cinder sable]

[serene bay]

I didnt pay for every fsme i play to be blocked

[dusky jay]

Bare Metal Shadow would be 💰

[plush warren]

Should’ve checked the page before you subscribed.

[prime jungle]

well guys if we never get to play vrc again w shadow, we gotta save money to get actual pc's or be questies

[serene bay]

They got blocked after i baught it

[cinder sable]

Smartest shadow pc user right here

[dusky jay]

Unluckiest you mean ?

[plush warren]

It’s not even Shadow’s fault lol so blaming this company is not going to get you anywhere

[cinder sable]

Twas sarcasm

[undone hornet]

Guys we have the solution, what if shadow rented pcs from a data center or something

[plush warren]

LOL

[gaunt zenith]

So love and deepspace is a mobile game with a very large amount of storage 60 gb and they are getting sued for false advertisement also possibly not listening to their players feed back and issues with game mostly with storage space because its like 60 gb wich is half the storage space alteast

[maiden grove]

Wouldn’t say never

[cinder sable]

Only bad thing i cant do on shadow pc is i can't download bluestacks

[maiden grove]

Would cost a lot

[dusky jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFzirpvTiOo&t=2s

If someone wants to watch how Shadow works and hasn't yet.

[prime jungle]

yeah thats whyy i said if

[serene bay]

Why dont shadow just use actuall pcs to host it the subscription is a lot of money in the first plave and when a dubscription ends whipr tje pc and put someone elses data on it there would be no anticheat bs and it would be great

[undone hornet]

Honestly, if USB passthrough was quick enough and I could use DJ hardware with it, id be golden

[honest pulsar]

And where they need to put, thousands of Gaming PC?
And how can you able to check temperatures etc... since Power Upgrade requires 1 million water cooling?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFzirpvTiOo&t=1s

On a datacenter, which you can put only servers hardware.

[dusky jay]

Bare Metal for Shadow would be a LOT and I mean a LOT LOT more expensive.

SNAP @honest pulsar

[maiden grove]

Shadow can’t just up and automatically switch to real pcs in a warehouse it would’ve a big huge process and money straining

[cinder sable]

It is

[undone hornet]

Its not, I chop riddim

[honest pulsar]

Say thanks to Epic games

[undone hornet]

Needs to be less than 5ms ideally

[cinder sable]

Ima go back to streaming anime in the discord

[honest pulsar]

For example Rtx Nvidia Consumer GPUs, can't able to run 24/7, for a long period.

While workstation's version yes

[serene bay]

Who leaves there conputer on 24/7

[undone hornet]

Yeah? Tell that to my dried out thermal compound and blown capacitors

[maiden grove]

A lot of people especially ones who do 24 hour game streams etc

[humble imp]

Daily reminder to try Chillout vr

[undone hornet]

im hopping on soonish, going to try spinning a set in chillout

[verbal wyvern]

I assumed that's what the service was not even gonna lie

[serene bay]

If this eac bs continues in my opinion shadow will be obsolete

[dusky jay]

When you're not on the Shadow, someone else can be.. So essentially the same hardware could be used many many hours a day even if you're not on.

[serene bay]

Ah

[undone hornet]

it is but it isnt. Its hosted on actual hardware, but the resources are allocated

[dusky jay]

Video above on how it's done hardware wise.

[gaunt zenith]

If it goes past 100gb they are going to have to convert over to pc because mobile devices cant handle that much space and in a result because of this they lost alot of players and they have also been accused or is in speculation of bribing players with in-game items to give the game a higher rating on Google play wich is against Google plays ToS, the situation is just a big crap show, we need to remember players make up the gaming community and that without them who's gona buy and play it, im not saying make us happy all the time no but don't ignore us all because it tells alot about the game we buy and the company.

[honest pulsar]

But on Service like Shadow,Boosteroid,Xcloud, Nvidia GeforceNow, Amazon Luna, you can start to play every hour you want... so they need to stay the servers up and running 24/7.

If you don't use that hardware, some lone else, can able to start, without wait to start physically the PC.

[maiden grove]

Does anyone know any vm that could POSSIBLY be working for vrc other than the pay hourly bs one I rlly don’t want to convert to the headache of cvr and such just for a pc side rn don’t have a problem playing with quest but I really wanna test stuff out??

[verbal wyvern]

see then why would this be an issue for eac then?

[undone hornet]

Shadow is just a more powerful VPS with imaging. You access your accounts image and your allocated resources. Which tbh, if it werent for all this anti cheat bs, i see as the future of gaming

[warped pendant]

Lowkey tempted to cancel my subscription and save for a switch 2 for the new zelda game >_>

[undone hornet]

Its still a virtual machine

[serene bay]

Hyruke warriors?

[warped pendant]

Because im tired of waiting…

[serene bay]

I got a swotch 2 i dont play zelda tho

[warped pendant]

Mhm! I need the lore!! And there was leaks for a remaster OOT

[honest pulsar]

Shadow IS NOT a VPS.
The same as NVIDIA GeforceNow and Boosteroid for example.

[foggy cliff]

Looked into using g force now just to use pcvr but I hate how ur not
Immersed like I can get on shadow pc

[maiden grove]

??

[foggy cliff]

It’s for screen only so that’s not really any good

[cyan flare]

Now I’m curious what is shadow considered then?

[undone hornet]

To answer your question though, a virtual machine can bypass kernel level(the level between hardware and software) anticheat allowing you to use much more complex tools to cheat. By simply banning vms, it makes it easy to stop this from happening

[serene bay]

Gabagoole

[dusky jay]

Shadow is essentially DAAS.. Desktop as a service.

[inner portal]

mman lemme play vrc

[honest pulsar]

Desktop as a service... cloud computing.

The account is just to save storage and have a slot of a pool of hardware.

The same as Nvidia GeforceNow ( for the last part ).

[inner portal]

PIP USE UR POWERS xd

[honest pulsar]

That's why it's cheaper than real VPS services

[dusky jay]

All my powers are being used to keep the rest of the sanity I have left.

[cyan flare]

Dang I learn all kinds of things here

[inner portal]

same

[undone hornet]

is it not just a VPS thats been split up into images?

Well I guess technically not since a VPS would be for that specific client and wouldnt change

[serene bay]

I was considering being a shadow subscriber forever i have this year but if it doesnt improve with the anti cheat n stuff i dont tjonk i would wanna use it which js a sbame.becaude its such a good premise

I hope it improves

[inner portal]

cause the whole servers goin crazy?

[undone hornet]

Only way that would happen is if anticheat developers took the effort to whitelist services like shadow, but a blanket solution of just banning all vms is cheaper

Even though cloud pcs and cloud gaming in general are growing as an industry, its still a niche product

[rigid zealot]

Exactly! That’s the main reason I got it.. and now it feels like it won’t be fixed until my subscription is over 🥴

[neon violet]

Whoever succeeds in uploading an avi to chillout ima need step by step instructions down to what link you clicked on and everything

[rigid zealot]

YouTube

[undone hornet]

alright f it, @plush lantern u got me, ill go check it out in a few mins

[humble imp]

Screw sanity, let’s gather all the shadow users to protest in front of vrchat headquarters

[undone hornet]

@swift latch wrng ping oops

[dusky jay]

But I am le tired.

[neon violet]

Did not help I tried it last night the server was useless and the tutorials r ridiculously unhelpful so I uninstalled it someone lmk when u get it done

[rigid zealot]

Google? Reddit ect

[neon violet]

You think I don’t try that?

[rigid zealot]

It’s the same as uploading to vrc

[swift latch]

we have been able to actually

[swift latch]

it is not

[gaunt zenith]

I think you need some sleep pip?

[neon violet]

Like I wouldn’t use the resources the internet gave us girl bffr no it’s not the converter is ballzz and the tutorials were horrendous to follow along with

[rigid zealot]

It is, you need unity blender etc

[humble imp]

It was ME

[maiden grove]

Yes u need blender etc but uploading its self is different

[rigid zealot]

It’s basically the same

[swift latch]

their cck and what they use is nothing like vrc's sdk, it's a different unity version and everything

[maiden grove]

Ok

[dusky jay]

Nooo the next line is ... "have a nap then fire zee missiles".

[rigid zealot]

Mostly the same steps, I’d just recommend using ChatGPT to help if needed

[neon violet]

Would you upload mine for me or gimme step by step the servers instructions and the tutorials I watched were from 4 years ago or that 10 months ago one where that moron wouldn’t get to the point

[swift latch]

sps, vrcfury, physbones, none of that work. it's dynamic bones and other things. you have to convert A LOT.

[neon violet]

Oh yeah cuz chat gpt is so reliable for things like that bffr

[undone hornet]

oh noo

[swift latch]

want an invite to our lil server? we're all in vc doing it

[rigid zealot]

It has helped me, hence why I recommend it. People here are so hostile for no reason

[neon violet]

Yes omg you’re so helpful thank you 🙏🏽 will I be able to get help later tonight tho? I’m currently hiding in the bathroom at work lmfao

[undone hornet]

i wont even try to convert my avi to chillout, it has a world constraint and a ton of vrcfury stuff

[gaunt zenith]

Lol

[rigid zealot]

Exactly lol

[swift latch]

yeah, of course. a lot more of us are figuring it out so we'll all help you as much as we can. ^.^

[cinder sable]

womp womp

[slim sage]

can i join?

[rigid zealot]

Very unnecessary

[swift latch]

ye ofc

[neon violet]

Thank you pooks

[cinder sable]

just get a different avatar and stop being dependent on vrcfury

🤷‍♂️ .

[rigid zealot]

My main avatar uses vrcfury. It’s just not worth it in my opinion to have to deal with all of that just to use my avatar in a different game. Likewise your comment was still unnecessary

[latent walrus]

Is there a mod in this thread? I'd like to throw in a summary of the issue in FAQ but it's big. Want to ask instead of obstructing the chat.

[rigid zealot]

Yes, pip

[cinder sable]

thats what you get for using all those lights and polygons

[latent walrus]

VRChat Blocking Shadow PC

🔴 Current status: No updates yet from EAC, VRC, or ShadowPC. We believe a fix is in the works.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

1. What is happening?
A recent update to VRChat or its anti-cheat protection (Easy Anti-Cheat) has enabled a check that blocks Virtual Machines. Since Shadow PC is a Cloud PC service that runs on Virtual Machines, the game now detects Shadow as a "VM" and refuses to launch to prevent cheating.

2. What is a "VM" (Virtual Machine)?
A Virtual Machine is essentially a "computer inside a computer." Instead of running on physical hardware sitting in your room, your Windows operating system is running inside a software simulation on a server. Cheat developers often use VMs to hide their hacking software from anti-cheat systems. Because of this, some anti-cheats (like EAC) block VMs entirely by default as a security precaution.

3. Why is Shadow PC different?
Shadow PC is a legitimate Cloud PC service, not a hacking tool. However, technically speaking, it is a Virtual Machine. Because VRChat’s anti-cheat is now strictly blocking VMs, Shadow is being caught in the crossfire. Other cloud services (like GeForce Now) may still work because they often have specific agreements or custom configurations with game developers, whereas Shadow provides a full Windows desktop.

4. Is there a fix?
Currently, no.

Users have pointed out a known workaround involving editing the "XML configuration" of the VM to hide the fact that it is a virtual machine (specifically enabling "Hyper-V passthrough" or spoofing the vendor_id). However, Shadow users cannot make this change themselves because they do not have administrator access to the server hardware. Only Shadow support can do this.

5. What does Shadow Support say?
Shadow is aware of the issue and calls it a "high priority." However, they have refused to implement the community-suggested "XML fix."

Shadow stated that hiding the VM status "can in some ways obfuscate that our PCs are virtual machines." They want to remain transparent with game developers about their service being a VM to maintain good long-term relationships. They are wary that "spoofing" a real PC might anger other developers.

6. What does VRChat Support say?
VRChat has washed their hands of the issue.

Official Stance: Tupper (Head of Community) stated that VRChat does not officially support Virtual Machines. While it might work, they cannot guarantee it. They explicitly stated they "cannot make changes to VRChat... that would fix these issues" and that the issue is "outside of our control." They advised users to contact Shadow support.

7. The Role of Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC)
While VRChat is the "Customer" who implemented the protection, Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) provides the actual "Guard." EAC acts as a kernel-level monitor. When VRChat launches, EAC downloads a specific module that scans the computer's hardware. EAC provides the tools to block VMs, but VRChat (the developer) technically controls the "security policy." VRChat could ask EAC to whitelist Shadow's specific signature, but they have chosen not to pursue this custom support.

8. Why did this happen suddenly?
While it's not exactly clear, it's likely that a recent EAC update/change implemented new definitions which included a stricter blacklist for "Microsoft Hyper-V", which is the technology Shadow runs on.

9. "Bare Metal" vs. Shadow PC (Why Shadow is blocked)
Shadow PC is not bare metal because of economics and efficiency. If Shadow gave every user a dedicated "Bare Metal" computer (where you own the whole physical box), the subscription would likely cost $100+ per month instead of ~$30. While Shadow provides a dedicated GPU for each user (using Data Center cards like the NVIDIA A10 or RTX 6000 intended for workstation usage), the underlying operating system is still running inside a Hypervisor.

[undone hornet]

most of my anims and params were done by hand

[rigid zealot]

Grown adult 🥴

[undone hornet]

that said, i love vrcfury

[cinder sable]

wasnt towards u

[cinder sable]

and you are?

[rigid zealot]

A grown adult, with common sense.

[undone hornet]

still though, most people dont want to deal with all that, theres nothing wrong with relying on vrcfury. not everybody wants to spend hours learning how to set up controllers, parameters, etc

[cinder sable]

ehhh... high doubt

[cinder sable]

thats like one of the easiest thing tho...

[bitter thistle]

Imma just smoke my bud and wait for my PC this stuff is getting CRAZY 🤣

[sharp condor]

Official statement if needed for this as well.

[undone hornet]

if you have an understanding of boolean logic and a bit of a technical background, yes. If you're the average person, no.

[humble imp]

Nice banner ^^

[true iris]

They hate us 💔 /j

[cinder sable]

i dont know jack sh about technology and its fairly easy

[undone hornet]

that just means you have a strong ability to follow the documentation, which a lot of people dont

[cinder sable]

so the people are just dumb in general sense ok!

[undone hornet]

no, reading technical documentation and understanding it right away isnt something that most people can do

[humble imp]

Also friended u

[formal swallow]

dam, i picked the wrong time to be a vrchat player on shadow pc

[cinder sable]

so what your saying people cant follow instructions because of their brain not processing what is laid out in front of them?

[pale trench]

W ragebait

[undone hornet]

no, what im saying is that most people arent going to open the sdk documentation and hop right in. I'm sure most people COULD take the time to learn it, but not everyone is willing to go through that effort to customize their avi

[cinder sable]

thank you

[undone hornet]

it is pretty solid ragebait

[maiden grove]

I agree for sure

[gaunt zenith]

Aleast grown adults don't act like this bro grow up

[maiden grove]

It’s a big process it’s like relearning unity and such all over again and a big headache to me personally I’m not abt it

Butttt on the other hand can’t wait for my pc to come for sure

[prisma fossil]

Could we pin this if it hasn’t been already

[undone hornet]

exactly. It's not like its extremely difficult or anything, just takes time and effort to understand it and most people dont care 🤷‍♂️

[cinder sable]

so what you are saying is that people in your own words "don't want to put the time and effort" because they are lazy? that's a interesting way to infer what you said.

[undone hornet]

you say lazy, i say dont care enough lol

[barren yew]

Pin this @dusky jay

[maiden grove]

He’s not saying anyone’s lazy hun it just takes a a big part of someone with patience etc to re learn that

[bitter thistle]

Hi Hun

[serene bay]

Shadowpc is so screwed bc of this

[maiden grove]

I love u pookie lol

[bitter thistle]

I still live

[serene bay]

You liyterly cant run any multiplayer games no more

[cedar cliff]

I LOVE U YUMIIII I MISS U BABES

[prisma fossil]

Hiiii

[nova dune]

im gonna try out ChilloutVr soon. 🤷‍♀️

[undone hornet]

this, I could either take the time to learn unity.. or.... i could go watch googoogaga reels for a few hours and stuff my face with fritos.

[maiden grove]

I miss u tooo

[prisma fossil]

Take 10 more

[maiden grove]

The Fritos is so real wtf😂 I love u for that lol

[pale trench]

How it feel with the shadow pc news

[undone hornet]

bbq too ofc

[cedar cliff]

im waiting on my mcdonalds doordash order

[bitter thistle]

Okay I am at work but I brought my dabs and nectar collector

[maiden grove]

YASSSSSEEEE

[delicate viper]

Yup

[dusky jay]

Will need some editing before being pinned.. Shadow is a Cloud PC service not Cloud Gaming. Also the GPUs they use aren't intended to be split up, they are just simply for Datacentre/Workstation long term usage, they are dedicated GPUs per user.

[cinder sable]

ahhh so its just lack of motivation? thats a rip.

[honest pulsar]

Yeah, maybe too much

[prisma fossil]

Maybe dont do that at work 🥹

[verbal wyvern]

I haven't gotten anything back from easy anti cheat yet

[undone hornet]

could be? or it could just be that its not something that interests them that much

[pale trench]

I’m not really affected by this it’s more of my friend that’s more affected then me since they have a subscription

[humble imp]

Nah this is the present rn

[bitter thistle]

I work in a commercial kitchen I'm always smoking at work lol

[maiden grove]

No?

[pale trench]

But I feel bad for my friend

[serene bay]

Here is a picture of my cat

[maiden grove]

Agreed tbh

[undone hornet]

literally, only reason why I did my avi by hand was because vrcfury was in its infancy and I really really REALLY wanted this avi

[warped pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-cat-kitty-case-oh-caseoh-kitty-gif-10158875947500614550

[cinder sable]

so just lazy.. ok

[undone hornet]

otherwise, i wouldnt have cared lol

[bitter thistle]

I just got a bad case of deja Vu

[undone hornet]

ya pretty much :)

[cinder sable]

oke doke

[undone hornet]

im glad we agree, i love u

[silent rover]

tbh, they have added vr chat in incompatible list, its not getting resolved anytime soon, probably weeks or months away before eac and epic gets back to shadow, so its just ggs for now, although it’s just eac now, not just vr chat itself

[serene bay]

Dear Player,

Thank you for contacting us.
We apologize that we cannot update the progress of the process, but we assure you that your feedback has been conveyed to our team and is being actively addressed. Thank you for your understanding and support.

If you have other problems in the game or need further help, please feel free to contact us. We are always here to support you and hope to bring you a better gaming experience. We hope you can give us a rating for our service. Have a good day.

Bad newz i dont think marvel rivals os gnna whitelist shadow anymore :/

[cinder sable]

no thank you

[undone hornet]

no, THANK U

[maiden grove]

Only reason I don’t care to relearn it bc I like seeing my avi with most of its aspects cvr takes a little bit of that and I don’t care to or try to reinfix that to something else

[honest pulsar]

It's not your Personal and Private PC and hardware, which you can use only by yourself.
When you finish a session, someone else, can able to use, your exact Virtual Machines.

You're in a pool of servers which have the same hardware.

Plus the CPU is shared, while the Gpu is dedicated.

[latent walrus]

Cool, I've made those edits

[undone hornet]

r u saying the goernment can use my pc?

[cinder sable]

i was rejecting it

[undone hornet]

well thats not very nice

[cinder sable]

its not good to accept things from strangers.

[undone hornet]

thats why i use a test kit

i mean, what? =

[cinder sable]

kinda scary.

[cunning cosmos]

You don’t share the virtual machine with anyone.. each customer has access to their specific vm. The virtual machines themselves will share hardware reasources. So imagine a room full of servers with good cpus and multiple gpus. The reasource of those hardware are split between active users.

[cinder sable]

btw the whole rage baity things wasnt towards you btw u kinda just were egging it on

[nova dune]

uhh, can someone share a link how to upload avis on ChilloutVr, if its not much of an issue?

[delicate viper]

Rivals been cooked on shadow

[undone hornet]

imagine a room full of servers with good cpus and multiple gpus.

[cunning cosmos]

I wish ;-;

[undone hornet]

scary

[delicate viper]

Is this a another situation that everything is Ups and down again

[silent rover]

yeah seems some vr chatters boycotting

[acoustic sundial]

which is gonna barely affect the playercount also

[silent rover]

all this is like 0.5% of their problems

[acoustic sundial]

exactly

[silent rover]

they aren’t gonna listen to this minority

[acoustic sundial]

why would they.. they earn more than enough as it is

[silent rover]

we got bigger games than vr chat blocked, that’s more painful

[delicate viper]

Like it’s getting old like I know this is a long term fix but How did this turn into EVERYTHING is Over that quick

[maiden grove]

All games r blocked rn

[acoustic sundial]

exactly.

[undone hornet]

Yes but no ups

[silent rover]

not really, i can still play majority of the games

[swift latch]

dbd still works

[honest pulsar]

Yeah, and each consumer has access of a pool of servers that have the same hardware and the IP address change at every session ( if you shutdown for 15-20 minutes which the Hypervisor shutdown the session).

[silent rover]

i just never seen this server be alive in years till now lmao

[undone hornet]

Oh shoot my boyfriend is here

[maiden grove]

Dbd uses eac?

[silent rover]

yes

[swift latch]

yeah

[maiden grove]

Oh I did not know that tbh-

[silent rover]

i also play star citizen which uses eac

[gilded helm]

any news?

[acoustic sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/fahhh-fah-skeleton-vonoffe-meme-gif-17918076419074819351

[delicate viper]

How these games didn’t get banned but us Like CMON

[maiden grove]

I don’t know nun abt that game so idk but the only one majority of people talking abt rn is vrc bc that’s all everyone wants to play atm

[acoustic sundial]

still no gifs godamnit. . .

[pale trench]

Me personally I’m not giving up (even tho I don’t have a subscription)
I understand everyone else giving up

[nova dune]

rn im just having a bit of a low feeling in my gut..

[acoustic sundial]

pretty sure 35% of shadow users only play vrc sadly

[lucid glacier]

If we are talking about vrchat paying for eac they should be able to afford ot when my friend has gifted 360 vrchat pluses and they have so many micro transactions

[maiden grove]

Sames I’m just uploading Avis and looking at them in offline mode and playing my other games

[delicate viper]

Me neither it’s just EAC being stupid BUT 1000 times stupid

[jovial vine]

thats what im saying

[honest pulsar]

Yeah, that's because not every game which use EAC is blocking VMs currently. But no one can say if it will remain like that.
We can only wait and see.

It'll be long

[jovial vine]

if they had someone pay to deal with the issue it would have been done now

[delicate viper]

Accountability

[undone hornet]

mods hes posting an ip grabber !!!!

[silent rover]

it really depends on which eac level they are running, and cig was only able to get heartbeat level of eac for now

[nova dune]

i need to distract myself from here before i start crying so, see yall later

[jovial vine]

im over here playing woolhaven waiting for my avi to get uploaded to cvr

[acoustic sundial]

your gonna get me removed from this thread a second time- 😔

[honest pulsar]

Yes, we pinned some important new news about it.

[undone hornet]

that wont happen, i stand by my gay partner

[jovial vine]

[honest pulsar]

Yeah, which each devs can whitelist or not the services

[delicate viper]

It’s not gone but Overthinking Ain’t Helping us It’s just EAC/Vrc being lazy as hell

[acoustic sundial]

🤔

[silent rover]

we are not seeing another eac update from them until the game hits beta, they did have a talk in Q&A so for now we are in greenzone 😂

[undone hornet]

dont tell me when i can and cant overthink

[dusky jay]

Overthinking is my middle name

[spice grotto]

Oops

[undone hornet]

fr, whos down for a little menty b? (mental breakdown)

[spice grotto]

Sorry I didn’t mean to do that

[small relic]

Quest crashing is a bit annoying but can’t complain all we can do is wait

[undone hornet]

oh you can absolutely complain about quest crashing

it almost feels like planned obsoletion with my quest 2

[small relic]

It’s not often just the quest crashers. Wish they would fix this but other then that I stopped getting my hopes up and just ignored it

[acoustic sundial]

client crashers are worse

[undone hornet]

idk what it is because the restrictions for quest avis and worlds have been the same for a long time, but the quest app is unplayable for me on quest 2

alright, imma hook my decks up and try djing on chillout, i think i saw a rave world

[silent rover]

cool beans

[small relic]

I’m on quest 3

[plush warren]

I’ve been crashed sooo many times now. Lmao. It’s alright tho.. it reboots quicker than opening it thru my computer 😂

[lucid glacier]

The people in the vrchat discord server are really gross. No matter how many explanations I give its always them saying its shadows fault and shadow lies to us. And they never acknowledge that we all spend money on vrchat and are in fact entitled to a working game

[delicate viper]

I just saw

[gray cloak]

Is this thread just for VRChat EAC issue on Shadow or any EAC issue on Shadow?

[lucid glacier]

Like sorry for being entitled over a game I spent alot of money on because I want it to work for all players not just shadow folk

[pale trench]

I will never be in that server cuz 95% of them are weirdos

[fallen sandal]

Yeah i dont think people understand what im saying you can buy from best buy but get the affirm from Walmart its like a credit card then just make payments on it from the pc from best buy

Your credit can literally be crap, and walmart will still let you use there affirm card and not effect your credit

[pale trench]

Clinically insane online mfers with a little bit of mod power in a discord server that don’t even get paid for it

[maiden grove]

Just did a check in to see if it works and no good

[bitter thistle]

I bought a PC decent enough for what I need on Amazon for 746$ I know that is a lot for most but is an option as well thought I'd say something

[lucid glacier]

No fr alot of em are narcissistic jerks who always wanna be right. And then them getting mad at me for saying vrchat needs to stop catering to children and should be 18+ like come on man

[honest pulsar]

It was supposed to be just for VRChat, but things got out of hand.

[pale trench]

Like there isn’t multiple apps for dating 🙂‍↕️

[fallen sandal]

Vrchat owes investors money, they never sadly ever gonna make the whole game only 18 plus

[lucid glacier]

Ughhh I know pookie xcc it makes me so mad

Also am gonna hop on quest soon to smoke with ya pookie im like almost fully awake lmfao

[serene bay]

Bro i payed £500 and all i can play is my sonic games i hate eac

[fallen sandal]

Also, most the devs are catering to Furrys, or Grown men wearing and obsessed with Loli avatars, there's evidence out there showing devs doing weird stuff, and there whole dev to dev activities involving whole loli community's

[serene bay]

I hate loli and allat but whats wrong w furrys

[fallen sandal]

People dont like what I gotta say, but has someone who played sense 2019 I can for tell you, behind the scenes someone definitely doing some federal stuff behind there own "game dev powers" 🔋

[fallen sandal]

That's literally all vrchat was made by gang, and look how that turned out lol

[dusky jay]

I would suggest moving on from such topics.

[fallen sandal]

So can we make a petition to remove EAC from vrchat ?
Problem sloved

[plucky walrus]

We did

[fallen sandal]

Send me link ima have it on my server lol

[plucky walrus]

Check pins

[fallen sandal]

Bet

[serene bay]

I honestly wouldnt mind if it was just vrc but it every game i ppay

[fallen sandal]

Is that your cat ?

[plucky walrus]

Real, this shizz stupid

[serene bay]

Yep

[lucid glacier]

It is. Literally it could all be solved if they properly spent their money and used the money for what they said they would use it for. If eac dosnt work they could quite literally find a new anti cheat system to help especially since EAC has had so many issues in general

[fallen sandal]

Yeah im only in favor of vrc tbh, it should have never even brought it, and the problem is they allowed to much client to client side access compared to server side restrictioning the amount lethal clients can even do. Everyone just wants they Emmvrc and groups bans people anyways, alot of people dont even feel the need to be malicious. Well atleast in age gated instances.
I just wish they would understand they cause more issues with having EAC compared to using their own version of a in-game server side anticheat that wouldn't care if you was playing on a VM

[serene bay]

Im stuck on overwatch and tf i need rivals I NEED IT

[cedar cliff]

ow peak

[fallen sandal]

Literally they have people who are computer nerds LOL who play they game and they act like its impossible is just a horrible excuse

[serene bay]

The balancing sucks major junk

[cedar cliff]

fair enough

[serene bay]

And rivals is more fun imo

[jade mountain]

Still gone?

[serene bay]

Yep

[jade mountain]

Sigh

[potent quiver]

Sobbing

[left maple]

Guys shadow PC already did their part. It’s just now VR chat in epic games. We should be going over there instead of here if you’re not banned.

[dull hill]

fr😞

[thorny geyser]

Vrchat already stated they won't do anything about it

[maiden grove]

They will just ban us probably if we flood the vr server

[blissful geyser]

Sad ..no update

[thorny geyser]

No sadly

[left maple]

Wdym

[thorny geyser]

They denied in having anything to do with it. And tupper as much as I hate that POS with a passion.. already stated they wont do anything about it as its not directly supported by vrchat

[gray cloak]

Shall add to it then.
Halo: MCC on Shadow PC

[thorny geyser]

Oh my god. They have everything blocked

[delicate viper]

Not everything

Some games

[thorny geyser]

Im sorta starting to think this is a full blacklist of shadow pc..

[delicate viper]

Also mcc really why not infinite

[thorny geyser]

Right. A game that is already moddable

[violet bear]

vrc does anything but optimize their game and listen to their community 😭