Belt Comparison Trident Rebuilt

[stoic tiger]

I wanted to tune me rebuild Trident with Shake Tune. I started with the belt comparison. But i can't figure out how to get it better. I tensioned Belt A for a while now and it doenst get better. I loosend Belt B, still nothing. I start from the beginning with tuning for 110Hz, which i finde quite hard. What similarity values are good?

Mods:
CL Tap
SB2209 2040 USB (LIS2DW)
Galvanic Umbilical holder thingy

Thank you for your help

[formal carbon]

this screw looks to be over-tightened, the screw head should be level with the top of the printed part like the three other shcs, can't see the other x/y joint properly in your photos, check that one too

[stoic tiger]

thank you will untiighten it. now the tooth idler is pretty free floating in hight

[formal carbon]

run the belt comparison again, see if that helped at all

[steady osprey]

👋

Could u Click on your flag in #rules please so we can recommend a local vendor for the pf tension tool?

[steady osprey]

U also have no real strain relief for your CAN cable, it will break soon like that

Get yourself a PUG or PG7

Printables is full of designs

[quartz sonnet]

Please post input shaper please

[stoic tiger]

there isnt one for the sb2209 usb and galileo2. thats the one on the git from btt

[stoic tiger]

i thought that getting the belts right is the first step befor input shaping

will run the macro now though

[formal carbon]

i'll leave you in the very capable hands of the experts

[stoic tiger]

done

[steady osprey]

https://www.printables.com/model/825175-galileo-2-g2e-pug-umbilical-mount

[steady osprey]

Thats an easy one for me
#replimat-🇩🇪-🇪🇺 sells kits, make sure to get one, its worth gold

https://github.com/Diyshift/3D-Printer/tree/main/GT2 Belt Tension Meter

[quartz sonnet]

belt shaper just gives you relative belt tension.
Your belts have the same frequency, and the same shape.
This is good enough to move on to input shaper.
There are many reasons why the belts would not have the same amplitude

[quartz sonnet]

you can stay. You don't have to leave on acccount of us

[stoic tiger]

It Looks Like it Needs to Break the Plug ir out Quit a Bend in the cable

[steady osprey]

Sorry i dont understand

[stoic tiger]

How does the Channel work 🙈 I am Not Quite sure how to Order

[steady osprey]

The Channel Description has the URL to the shop

[stoic tiger]

The Place where the cable Enters is below the Plug

[steady osprey]

Ah now i understand.
It should fit from what i see on the pictures.
Just to a U-turn with the CAN Cable

[stoic tiger]

sorry for the wonky picture, quite a hard place to take a phott

[steady osprey]

Graphs look wonderful

Print a VORON cube according to the guideline print settings

[steady osprey]

Make sure to put the fresh input shaper values into your config

6 in total

Shaper x
Freq x
Damping x

Shaper y
Freq y
Damping y

[stoic tiger]

give me a while for reading into the docu, wasn't ready for Input shaping yet^^

is the tool better or worse then something like this?https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005007573243407.html?

[steady osprey]

This is not really usable

[formal carbon]

that's a glorified tyre tread depth gauge

[steady osprey]

Its a „reifenprofiltiefe-messer“ turned into a belt tension tool

There is a reason why i asked u to click on your flag and recommended a vendor + provided the github link 🙂

[steady osprey]

Also u can delete everything after .html
It just spams the chat and is referral stuff

Feel free to edit the message

[stoic tiger]

Then I will Order a Kit, I only thought about the tool since I doesn’t relay on me calibrating it

[steady osprey]

U literally have to calibrate nothing if u buy from replimat 🙂 hence my recommendation

It has the correct hardware as well as the wire

[stoic tiger]

i thought you have to calibrate the tension spring with the piano wire

[formal carbon]

the kit has fast become the gold standard tool for belt tesioning

[formal carbon]

that's correct

[steady osprey]

Yes but thats absolutely doable 😉

Hardest part in Germany was the piano wire, but thanks to replimat we dont have to gamble which one is correct

[formal carbon]

you don't have pianos in germany? 😆

[stoic tiger]

i was at a music store for piano wire. and yes wasnt that easy

[steady osprey]

We do, but we couldnt find one which is cheap and the right spec

[stoic tiger]

i am a bit overwhelmed. what are the values i put into my config

[formal carbon]

obviously, everyone is making the pf makes tensioner 🤣

[steady osprey]

They are displayed on the 2 input shaper pictures

Use the recommended ones

[steady osprey]

For the slicer:

outer wall accel: 5800

[stoic tiger]

yes reading is hard. i looked at everything but the recommendation

Unsupported shaper type: MZV

[steady osprey]

Klipper is case sensitive

[steady osprey]

Its always smart to have a look at the klipper docs to know how it wants the parameters https://www.klipper3d.org/Config_Reference.html#input_shaper 🙂

[stoic tiger]

started the print. see you in a bit

[steady osprey]

Sounds good.
Outer wall accel was set as I mentioned?
Otherwise the cube is will be useless for us

[stoic tiger]

seems pretty good to me. the left one is withoug input shaping. but also not on 5800 accel since i didnt know then

[steady osprey]

left has ringing, right doesnt 🙂 so IS is doing its job

great

now all thats left for us would be vibration profile

https://github.com/Frix-x/klippain-shaketune/blob/main/docs/macros/create_vibrations_profile.md

[steady osprey]

if u havent installed and configured TMC autotune yet, do that before running vibration profile please

[molten solstice]

@stoic tiger https://github.com/andrewmcgr/klipper_tmc_autotune

[stoic tiger]

what is there to configure? in installed it and gave it the name of my Steppers, is there more?

[autotune_tmc stepper_x]
motor: lkd-42sth48-2004mah
[autotune_tmc stepper_y]
motor: lkd-42sth48-2004mah

i coudlnt find z drive in the list but those arent as important right?

[steady osprey]

thats it 🙂 if lkd is part of the database, u are good

[steady osprey]

we only care about XY here

[stoic tiger]

any other neat things to order while i am at it?

[steady osprey]

yes, adjust your slicer now according to vibration profile 🙂

focus on top middle graph

avoid white area speeds
use green speeds

run ellis speed test and use your a save max accel for your infill. enjoy printing

[molten solstice]

@stoic tiger https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/

[stoic tiger]

i meant the replimat shop

so to my first question. my belt graph is good enough?

[steady osprey]

oh sorry 😄
yea a lot of things 😄

fan with tacho signal

delta 5015 - best fan for SB

[stoic tiger]

what good does the tacho signal? I work at a makerspace.- so i overview 7 printers. everything gets expensiv when it is times 7. thats the reason why the rainbow barf voron logo didnt go straigt to my cart

[steady osprey]

it sends the RPM of the fan as a signal 🙂

klipper doesnt know at all if the fan is spinning or not. it just sends the signal to the mosfet.

with a tacho fan u + klipper know if the fan is REALLY spinning

and can STOP a print if its not spinning to avoid heat creap

[stoic tiger]

oh so i dont melt the hotend holder, smart. luckily i sls printed them a while ago from nylon so i mostly dont have that problem. but i will order one of thos fans anyway to check it out

[steady osprey]

its not about the hotend mount 😉

i specifically mentioned heat creap

[stoic tiger]

we are printing with polyterra. never had a heatcreap with those. even with a failed fan

[steady osprey]

never say never 😉

[stoic tiger]

bet i get one tomorrow

[steady osprey]

the delta 5015 is nice to have as well, as i said, best 5015 for SB.
question is if u want to spend so much on that fan or upgrade to A4T

[stoic tiger]

i like the look of the SB a lot, and we dont do highspeed printing. so i think i will stick with it. on the zeros we have i will explore the world of light toolheads and going fast. maybe then i will change my mind

[steady osprey]

sounds good 🙂
make sure to apply for serial

[molten solstice]

@stoic tiger Submit a video to https://www.reddit.com/r/voroncorexy/. Read the pinned post for more info!

[stoic tiger]

will do when everything is finished. i want to have consecutive numbers

thank you for your time and wisdom. ❤️ i will implement everything i learned