Hello artists, i do need to quire on some help with poses torso hip relation-legs-stiffness- and other weird complications i have despite my long labor or art lol makes me little angry
#I need help on general poses and body
craggy rock
Get more creative with the poses then, you do characters in their idle state so to say, so obviously they're gonna look stiff since they're just relaxing.
Do more stuff that requires a more complex pose, like a battle scene, them interacting with something in the enviroment, or just doing a cool pose for the photo.
gilded warren
I like aurafarming poses those standing poses but even my action poses are somewhat ugly
craggy rock
Yeah not bad and a little more complex than the usual poses, but don't forget that angle and perspective is something that you should play around with too, your drawings seem to have a focus on having a front view, when the angle of your screen can be moved around too and be used to make other perspectives. (I can't for the life of me find a easier way to explain this atm, so if you didn't understand ask for examples 
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For the rest yeah, it's mostly practice, and also learning some other important stuff like clothing folds, you're going to have to use that a lot in more complex poses so learning where the clothing should fold will make it look nicer.
gilded warren
Like different camera angles type
craggy rock
Yeah, that
gilded warren
Ye but i more lean into neutral poses so is there way to make them better despite their stiff non action nature?
Yknow cuz aurafarming is cool
craggy rock
I think those types of poses will always look a bit stiff, it's kinda inevitable, but they will def get better if you keep practicing them, and ofc you can improve them by adding a more interesting camera angle to them so they're not just literally standing there in a front screen, looking like they're part of a concept art.
Obviously other stuff like backgrounds, effects and all that are also good to help with the piece look better, when the whole composition is just a character standing there, it will obviously look a bit simple, but even a piece with the most basic pose with the most basic character can look pretty nice with the right expertise, so yeah, go experiment with that if that's your feel. 
gilded warren
I love concept art poses its favorite
From many games and media
craggy rock
Well, then you know what you'd like to do
gilded warren
I may like but idk how tbh
Other than practice ngl practice is so hard when you confused as shit as if its a theoretical physics equation
craggy rock
what confuses you about?
gilded warren
Like the process how I begin, where do i end do i understand my placement
Like if i do a portrait i can easily structure it and read it and fix it
But poses like i cant understand my lines of action my simple bone guides
Espcially pelvis and torso ratio and ther connection to legs
craggy rock
I'd say that's more of a reference issue, you should be seeing how other artists do their sketches and how are their body proportions, you can for example do mannequin sketches based of other people's art to try to get a feel of proportion and how to visualize your mannequin into an actual character, or do that with real life pictures too, and sketch over them, it's a pretty popular practice.
Over time you get a feel of how stuff should move, or how long it should be even without reference, it just takes time and a reference guide, your own body is a good reference guide too, I've posed my hands for drawings sometimes or posed my arms in a certain way to see if I'm doing the pose correctly lol.