Was just gonna ask what Deus Ex had to do with Disney before it hit me lol
#video-games
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rancid cove
shame they had to flagship it with kamala tho
almost feels like they put her in just in case it failed so they could scapegoat diversity/unknown characters rather than. y'know. bad gamesmithing
wraith cradle
You are reading too much into it
rancid cove
probably
i mean, it also looks exactly like the early-mid 2000s movie tie-in games that were pretty universally mediocre at best
which is a stunning decision to bring back now, when standards are even higher
hell, the PS4 EXCLUSIVE spider-man game sold about 3 times as many copies as this one did total
eager hamlet
Mankind Divided was probably just too big in scope initially
And had to be cut down clumsily
rancid cove
who did fuse
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Insomniac
rancid cove
how does that..............relate
rancid cove
the point was that marvel's avengers, which is the game with the second-highest prospective budget in history, didn't sell as well as a console exclusive across 3 platforms
wraith cradle
I'm sure it's not the second
rancid cove
what IP has a backer bigger than disney in 2020?
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That doesnt mean it's the biggest budgeted game ever
rancid cove
no but there's no good excuse for it not to have been
hence "prospective"
it could have had several billion dollars of budget
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Oh
rancid cove
without bankrupting its backers
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Oh, of course I thought you mean that it's probably the second biggest bugdet in history and I wa slike What?
rancid cove
o damn, i nailed it
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Its because the marketing tho
In pure dev costs it drops A LOT
The Old Republic and Star Citizen costs more to develop
rancid cove
star citizen shouldnt be counted b/c its never going to be finished
twin yarrow
star citizen shouldnt be counted b/c its never going to be finished
going or not, money have already been paid, and I doubt supporters will get them back in a case of failure
a failed game is still a game, and it's playable rn
rancid cove
i mean, it's not the fact it'll never be finished that's the problem, it's the fact that it's gonna keep collecting funding forever
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Sunk Cost Galaxy
rancid cove
so its development cost is effectively asymtotic
radiant dock
remote bramble
I always figured that Alucard's estoc/rapier wasn't that large
radiant dock
it's jus long, rather than like. wide
twin yarrow
rancid token
I love how they represent Alucard's fighting style in the show
Because of course a vampire with superhuman strength could fling around a sword longer than he is as if it were a fencing foil
radiant dock
mood, i really love th show
rancid cove
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In fact, studies indicate that delaying the game DOESN'T stop crunch
It's something systemic
broken smelt
Yikes
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Cyberpunk is proof of that
As they have delayed twice already
I'm not condoning at all crunch. By the way
I'm just saying that a business that crunches is because something is wrong in management not because lack of time
rancid cove
yeah AAA is deeply diseased tbh
generally, if a corporation pulls in anywhere near a billion a year, whole thing's beyond salvaging
rancid cove
rancid cove
he is even at this very moment still achieving it, actually!
(also punchy on twitch)
(you probably know him from his baba is you run at sgdq this year)
rancid cove
rancid cove
b/c the game thinks the first level is trivial
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For a person with experience in Souls-Like maybe But If I can understand if a new player kinda gives up
rancid cove
true
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Like c'mon don't teach what a strong and weak attack is after the dungeon that's just superfluous
Guys
Where can I download Genshin Impact?
Just to have it in my backlog
rancid cove
it has a dedicated website
rancid cove
relic of a bygone era, i know
wraith cradle
Given each launcher gets a cut and it's being successful maybe it's paying off
Ok found it
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Gotta say when people talked about I didn't expect to copy so much of BotW or that it is a gacha
rancid cove
tbh i saw ads for it that suggested it was a mobile game
so the gacha wasnt a surprise, but being on pc was
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Meh I think I'll continue ffxiv first
rancid cove
good call
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Yeah I left it on LVL 35 back when that was the f2p limit
quartz latch
It's free and with budget and it's 2020, of course it's a gacha 😬
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Was expecting more straightforward MTX
fresh crag
dire condor
The new change to Peter Parker for Spidey Remastered is really unnecessary.
rancid cove
:? remastered?
dire condor
Yeah, the PS5 version
rancid cove
what did they change
real depot
today's update? not sure 
rancid cove
no, spidey
dire condor
what did they change
@rancid cove The entire face, switched from previous (John Bubniak) to younger actor for face mocap, making him looks way younger than Miles Morales and look like MJ's younger brother now.
rancid cove
huh, that DOES sound weird
dire condor
huh, that DOES sound weird
@rancid cove https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1311388450785030151
rancid cove
why was this. necessary.
dire condor
The reasoning is, the dev said the new face is closer to the voice actor, for easier mocap. The problem is.... Yuri Lowenthal (the VA) is a 49 years old man
Going by that logic, we might as well see Kratos with Chris Judge's face, Joel with Troy Baker's face, etc.
rancid cove
i mean i'd be down for chris judge kratos
dire condor
This game immediately crossed off from my list. Guess gonna wait until Horizon Forbidden West before buying PS5.
rancid cove
that's gonna be on ps4 tho
right now the only two games we know for sure will only be on ps5 are oddworld and dad of boy 2
dire condor
that's gonna be on ps4 tho
@rancid cove Horizon? Yeah I know. But I've planned for so long. Now my wait list are GOW Ragnarok and Horizon.
quartz latch
Oddworld plausibly not remaining an exclusive for the foreseeable future...
dire condor
Kratos and Hades 🤝 BOY
Oddworld plausibly not remaining an exclusive for the foreseeable future...
@quartz latch Timed exclusive?
rancid cove
wait is balamb wondergarden a ps5 exclusive? that game doesn't do enough for me to retain much info about it
dire condor
Man, I loved the OG Abe's Odyssey game back in old PS
quartz latch
Yeah, I'm picturing a timed exclusive too. So... not the kind of situation you buy a console for. At least for me.
dire condor
They've remastered and revived Crash Bandicoot franchise, wish they would also revive Tomba lmao
rancid cove
oh, wait, new ratchet's gonna be exclusive, right?
dire condor
Yeah, I'm picturing a timed exclusive too. So... not the kind of situation you buy a console for. At least for me.
@quartz latch True that.
rancid cove
im tentatively interested in that, at least
dire condor
oh, wait, new ratchet's gonna be exclusive, right?
@rancid cove Yep
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I don't see the big deal
rancid cove
he looks like 12-15 years younger now
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How old is he supposed to be?
rancid cove
early 30s iirc
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So old already?
rancid cove
definitely no younger than 26
wise girder
i dont like it ew
i guess it's not a big deal if you weren't already used to it but i played through the game twice im not gonna adjust to that anytime soon
rancid cove
like, to be clear, that's a fine way for a peter parker to look, but not this game's peter parker
wise girder
exactly
plus he looks 14
this is a peter fresh out of grad school not high school peter parker
rancid cove
yeah, and so does tom holland, so it's not that it doesn't look like the archetypal character
it's that this game's story takes place further along his timeline than that face belongs
twin yarrow
i guess the only way to painlessly change an actor in some kind of movie or game is replacing all the existing scenes with new face, and then pretend old one never existed
making another face in a sequel will always be rejected to some point
twin yarrow
?
forest stirrup
ominous
wraith cradle
I mean they do that a lot
They just don't acknownledge it and have the new actor imitate the tone and mannerism of the other one
mellow linden
the new slowking is ugly as sin, but i kinda like it
mellow linden
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dire condor
plus he looks 14
@wise girder And we're supposed to believe this Child Parker banged Felicia Hardy and is MJ's boyfriend rather than her brother
quartz latch
(just do like Twin Peaks did and recast with a ||really big teapot. Or a ball of chewing gum on a stick||. The sky's the limit, really)
glossy sequoia
I should play Hades but I am saving up for cyberpunk
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No, actually she he is a 1000 30 year old dragon superhero
unkempt harness
sbeve!
hybrid jetty
iirc "when we sell 9 million more copies"
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https://i.imgur.com/vgDxgtY.png
When you are reading at 2am and the Archjustice comes in
keen jewel
fresh fable
Very excited to see the Minecraft Kirby!
icy venture
hybrid jetty
it'll never happen
rancid cove
more like smash is now minecraft
carmine moth
how do i sue for copyright
rancid cove
ask nintendo, they're all about that life
oblique ferry
Very excited to see the Minecraft Kirby!
That's gonna be incredibly cursed
rancid cove
kirbsed*
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Kirby: Becomes a cube
Me: Wait, that's illegal
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dire condor
Btw anyone here loves real time tactics genre?
naive python
Smh people excited about steve in smash I’m still waiting for zagreus
junior crown
he can, but Sakurai wants for each DLC character to be somewhat original at least between each other so it is unlikely.
hybrid jetty
coincidentally late last night a friend asked me to make smash zag and i wrote this when i was tired https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U0iSf7erwyAMqBaGExqlqW40UT5rEXnWHUVZjCkPECA/edit?usp=sharing
yeah pretty much byleth lol
junior crown
considering he has such variety of weapons yeah it's more likely he can be like Byleth out from the whole cast of smash bros characters.
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Zag gimmick could be having a different moveset by choosing a God's patronage
rancid cove
buddy, i dont even know what this situation IS
timber badge
basically super powered base ball is heading at mach 10 or something at a mans face
rancid cove
nice
lethal jay
lethal league?
acoustic gulch
my life wont be complete until a SGG character makes it into a fighting game
opal grove
what if..........supergiant made their Own fighting game 👀
wraith cradle
Here hands over a 2x4 go down there and make your dreams a reality.
opal grove
hahahahah
i show up at supergiant's office ready to fight in their preproduction pit battle
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Be careful though, I heard Darren really wants his rhythm game done so he's bringing his guitar.
opal grove
i ain't scared 😤
eager hamlet
You can make Zagreus in Rivals of Aether
edgy halo
twin yarrow
that raised even more questions
edgy halo
i was crafting
twin yarrow
technically that counts as a sandwich
acoustic gulch
someone make a SGG character in Rivals of Aether thanks
they got everyone except them
rancid cove
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Breaking: Eve Online Announces New Deluxe Edition Which Includes A License For Excel Pro
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normal marsh
hey everyone, i was thinking of getting the base game of control, for those who've played how did you like the story?
I'm seeing if it's worth $20
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twin yarrow
for me, Control is ||like a perfect SCP game without SCP.. the whole mystery feeling, world full of unknown things, most of which can't even be comprehended by human mind.. and a secret organization, more influential than any government, that tries to preserve, study and.. well.. control them||
really underrated project
it's.. idk.. hard to tell why is it so good without spoiling a lot
normal marsh
ok so i'm guessing i shouldn't click on the spoiler tag haha
rancid cove
it's p broad-strokes, nonspecific stuff under there
normal marsh
i've never been a part of the scp thing, i found out about it too late, but stuff that's trippy is cool to think about
and thank you for warning me churl
rancid cove
i'll say this: the documentation for the Safe object is imo the most upsetting collectible text in the game
dire condor
Control looks really good. I might get it next time it's on a sale
rancid cove
if not for Shadowbringers and Outer Wilds, it probably would've been my goty 2019
broken smelt
Control looks like a great game. It really sucks how the publisher handled next gen upgrades and the ultimate edition :/
rancid cove
ah
right
that Unpleasantness
(to be clear: that's like 95% on 505 Games, 5% on Remedy)
broken smelt
The whole "we just can't give the ultimate edition to people owning the game"
Proceeds to give the ultimate edition to people already owning the game by "accident"
It's not uncommon for 505 games as a publisher to do scummy stuff like this either. Which makes me sad
rancid cove
yeah if not for 505 i'd say control would be worth full price for at least another year or two
as it is...i guess wait till it goes on sufficient sale, but still definitely pick it up
broken smelt
Yeah, I'm in the same boat
rancid cove
i got it at EGS launch, before the next gens were even firmly announced let alone The Great Upgrade Bungle, but if i hadn't i'd be waiting for like 30 or below
broken smelt
If I could give the devs money directly through merch or something I would, just to circumvent giving money to 505
rancid cove
same
dire condor
Amalur's Re-Reckoning upgrade is weird too...it doesn't seem like that big of an upgrade, and even charging half price for owners is a bit scummy imo. Like come on, give some respect to the OG fans
I'll probably buy it eventually (on sale) just because the level scaling change is...almost worth the price of admission lol
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I HATED the Twist in the latest DLC of Control as its implications are very ugly in hindsight
rancid cove
i have not finished the DLC actually, so that's an interesting thing to hear for whenever i get back to it
wraith cradle
I'm not exaggerating when I say the twist can sour all your experience of the game
Before you ask, no, It's not something problematic, is just something VERY dumb
rancid cove
does it at least leave a sequel on the table? (should probably spoiler the answer to this regardless of what it is)
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Spoiler ||Yes there is a Stinger||
rancid cove
||ok cool, as long as we get More Control i can live with whatever dumb garbage the DLC dumps on me||
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Here is the thing you can play the entire AWE dlc and not touch the Twist
You have to see the Hotline collectibles
Just to be clear the Twist is 1. Dumb. 2. Contradictory. 3. And Harmful to the entire plot
Its also obvious I'm DYING to rant about it
rancid cove
y'know what, i think just knowing the bare minimum about alan wake's story, i can guess what it is
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Ok try it
rancid cove
and if i'm right, yeah, it's the dumbest possible thing they could've committed to
||the whole game is just one of wake's novels?||
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||Almost||
dire condor
That's how I feel about the first part of Mass Effect 2 lol. Honestly the whole "resurrection" thing jumped the shark so hard it made the average scifi B-movie seem like a mastercraft in writing
wraith cradle
Ok let me begin recapping the plot of Alan Wake
Alan Wake is a frustated and succesful writer that goes to Cauldron Lake to clean his writer block
What he doesnt know is that that lake has amagical property
It brings to life the art that its created there
dire condor
Why couldn't they just....have Cerberus save your ship from the Collectors and get into contact that way? Then we can keep the amazing party from 1, not have a continuity problem, and keep the scifi still in the realm of believability. God, I could rant about ME2 for hours but I won't lol
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A guy called Thomas Zane accidentally unleashed an Eldritch horror called the Dark presence when he tried to use that to bring his wife back
That Eldritch horror ends destroyed but traps Alan apparently forever in the Lake
rancid cove
re: bioware in general: a dude named chris l'etoile used to work there
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With him trying to escape in American Nightmare and failing
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Ok here is the AWE Spoilers
rancid cove
he never worked on dragon age and doesn't work at bioware at all anymore
dire condor
ME1's codex was mindblowingly good. I remember spending hours of game time just reading it all, and getting really hyped when I got new entries
that game was magical
rancid cove
yeah, l'etoile's maybe the best writer in the industry
certainly the best writer bioware ever had
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||He using the so called 'Path of least resistance' wrote Jesse's story and the FBC and the hiss to make her eventually help him escape, in other words NOTHING in control existed until Wake apparently created it. So UNLEASHING SCPs was the frigging path of Least Resistance?||
dire condor
I feel bad for not liking ME2 because it does have its merits, and the stories it tells are good...I just dislike the experience as a whole. It's a poor followup to ME1 imo
It's a great scifi RPG, but a poor sequel
dire condor
I definitely am
rancid cove
my mass effect hot take is that wrex is the most important thing in the entire series
dire condor
It's just a retreading of the first game's story. Replace the Geth with Collectors and...have ||them be controlled by a rogue Reaper|| . Go through all the same motions of building a crew
ME1 had this huge setup of preparing for a big conflict, then ME2 is like "NO, episodic space adventure! Then we remember what happened at the end of ME1 in the last few hours"
Bleh.
It really just feels like a filler game. A really, REALLY good filler game
but it has little to no relevance to the overall plot
then ME3 was just "meh" to me. I liked the multiplayer a lot more than the story campaign
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me1: Discovering the reapers
me2: Investigate them
me3: Fighting them
rancid cove
yeah in retrospect i really only cared about Wrex and Legion by the end
dire condor
You're not really "investigating" them though. ME2 spends very, very little time with Reapers, then suddenly in 3 the invasion instantly happens with almost no buildup
It was all handled terribly, imo
rancid cove
i think l'etoile actually (he goes by "dandelion" online most places) was the one who blew the whistle on how the creative lead and the execs basically sat down in a conference room, locked out the entire writing team, and wrote the ending of 3
dire condor
In my eyes, only the first Mass Effect was truly great. The sequels were good by themselves for different reasons, but I kinda just block them out when I look back on what I liked about that universe
rancid cove
the virmire standoff, for all that it really clearly has a correct and wrong outcome, is an OUTSTANDING moment in interactive storytelling tbh
dire condor
The things that happen in 1 were minblowing to me. They haven't aged well because the animations and voices aren't exactly up to par by today's standards
wraith cradle
Honestly I liked always the dlc better than the base game
dire condor
but they're still the high point for me
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Also ME was DLC done right
dire condor
Except for From Ashes, which was a dumpster fire decision by the publisher
Day 1 DLC gating off an important NPC
Shadow Broker was one of the best pieces of content in the series, I will say that
wraith cradle
Dissapointed in his identity tbh
An unknown character from an until know untold species
You telling me in 2 games we never heard about those weird things?
rancid cove
yeah that sucked
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Do you remember the Hamlet joke?
rancid cove
nop
dire condor
Nah
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There is during ME1 a production of Hamlet done by an all-Elcor cast
Making the thing 14 hours long
rancid cove
oh that one
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Becominga runaway hit in the galaxy
dire condor
Oh yeah, I remember something about that vaguely
rancid cove
god i want more elcor
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The punchline is that the director is in fact a human
Who wanted people to not judge Hamlet by the emotions
dire condor
They were one of my favorite alien species, tbh. I wish there was more interactions with them
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Gertrude: Uneasy: What wilt thou do. Thou wilt not murder me. Help. Help. Ho.
Polonius: Shocked: What ho. Help. Help. Help.
Hamlet: Startled: How now. A rat. Dead for a ducat. Dead.
Polonius: Agonized: O. I am slain.
Gertrude: Horrified: O me. What has thou done.
Hamlet: Shaken: Nay. I know not. Is it the king.
Gertrude: Horror gives way to anger: O. What rash and bloody deed is this.
Hamlet: Venomous Sarcasm: What a piece of work is a man!
dire condor
And they seemed so smart and aware. Like if anything is "woke", it's the Elcor. Those aliens have some deep wisdom
Lmfao I would legit watch that play
wraith cradle
"Insincere endorsement: You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have heard him in the voice of elcor."
dire condor
Another game I got super lost in the dialogue was Planescape: Torment. I straight up lose track of reality when I play it
rancid cove
the elcor were so good
dire condor
The lore is so good
rancid cove
also i consistently conflate the name of that species with the planet elicoor from star ocean 3
dire condor
And it's the only game I know where you can spend more than an hour speaking to an NPC
and none of it is boring
dire condor
I recall spending at least that long exhausting all dialogues with some of them, yes
rancid cove
ironic that i just brought up star ocean, then; the first time i booted it up, i spent 45 minutes by the in-game clock just reading the encyclopedia entries available immediately
dire condor
Dak'kon (sp?) is one of them. I think I spent almost two whole hours going through his race's religious teachings, not even including the slabs he gives you
rancid cove
damn, now that sounds like worldbuilding
dire condor
There's also a fellow you meet in a pub early in the game, a "planewalker." He explores all the planes of existence, and recounts a lot of his journeys to you
even foreshadowing places you'll go in the story
And he's half-visible because the, if I recall correctly, the "negative material" plane started to literally remove him from existence
and he barely escaped
It's fascinating stuff. Planescape's lore is god tier
There were talks in the past of Beamdog making a sequel, but I don't think they could do the original game justice
Their additions to Baldur's Gate are...less than stellar
and besides, I think Pillars of Eternity is a great spiritual successor to games like Baldur's Gate and Planescape
It has amazing lore and nostalgic gameplay
wraith cradle
I prefer Tides
dire condor
Also unrelated, but Fatalis in MHW is everything I ever wanted. My god, that fight is brutal and all sorts of amazing
They definitely ended that game with a banger
rancid cove
no gore magala, literally unplayable
dire condor
Come on man, having the original Proof of a Hero playing during the final stretch was something special
Made me emotional
It's like the MH series just came full circle
rancid cove
no literally the announcement the final monster wasn't magala means im not playing world anymore
dire condor
They might be saving him for Rise, who knows? He is a popular monster
rancid cove
yeah also the rise trailer has me even more hype than world ever did, that's another reason
dire condor
Rise is probably the one game that's gonna finally sway me to buy a Switch
World was my first MH game, and it turned me into a fanboy
I only ever watched LPs of the original games, sadly. MH1 in particular has aged really poorly anyway, but it's cool to see how the series began
Just based on what I've watched, 3 Ultimate gets my vote for best classic game
rancid cove
you didn't play the underwater stuff
dire condor
I really, really like Lagiacrus and wish he was in World. He's got one of the best themes, too
dire condor
shame that Lagiacrus was almost in world, since he was in the preview of the game
but apparently they couldn't get his neck to work right
which is funny because Fatalis has...kinda the same neck. I wonder if it is the same neck skeleton and they finally fixed it
and yeah, I can see why people say the latest is always best, just because of the QoL improvements and monster roster...but eh, I think 3 has some of the best personality in the series
I like the overall vibes of it
lethal jay
hey at least the leviathan model problems gave us the wiggler
rancid cove
y'know what? that's a good goddamn trade.
broken smelt
dire condor
Use a Switch Axe so anytime a scene cuts to your backside, its blocking the whole image
then Kelbi headpiece so when it shows you up front, you look like a stupid deer in headlights
dire condor
It took me a long time to stop sucking at Swaxe
but man, once you get it...it's amazing
lethal jay
yee
also the iceborne changes were great
dying less because you don't need to be in sword mode all the time
dire condor
Yeh, plus my SA gameplay improved greatly when I watched a video explaining things. Most importantly using the morph attacks to extend your evades
makes it one of the best weapons to evade with
lethal jay
that's a cool trick
rancid cove
i keep telling myself, ever since 4u, "okay, THIS time im gonna main something other than charge blade"
lethal jay
i just reposition aggressively
dire condor
CB is amazing, yeah. The savage axe mode in IB is one of the most satisfying moves in the entire game
even more than SAED imo
dire condor
I laugh like a maniac every time I combo with it
rancid cove
i really hope Rise keeps all the iceborne moves
like, unpopular onion, i actually think i like Iceborne weapon kits more than styles
dire condor
I do feel like Gunlance needs something better than Wyrmstake Blast, though.
Instead of improving the weapon, it just added tedious extra steps
rancid cove
ok yeah gunlance kinda got the short end of the stick
dire condor
Also the Lance counter looks cool but is terrible in practice
Both lance weapons need better moves imo
lethal jay
they did rebalance it and stuff but now there's no point in playing anything but that one shelling type
dire condor
Lance especially needs some kind of a "burst" or finisher
rancid cove
yeah, i think the gun/lance could honestly do with a significant overhaul
dire condor
Don't get me wrong, I do really enjoy Lance, but every other weapon has a big bad combo or attack you can use on a KO'd monster, for instance
Lance though, you just...keep poking, bro
rancid cove
i mean, yes that's true, but also lance has the distinction of being functionally invincible
broken smelt
I like watching good lance gameplay
dire condor
Give me like a spinning mechanism in the lance, where you stab it into the monster and turn it on for constant DoT
broken smelt
Not something I'd ever be good at
rancid cove
which is much more useful in solo than online, but is also VERY useful in solo
dire condor
Lance is very fun to use against charge spamming monsters like Diablos and Tigrex, at least
They stand no chance
rancid cove
there is nothing in the game i find more satisfying than getting a KO off a charge blade guard point
dire condor
Guard points are also OP against those monsters lol
It's not even fair
Well that's what you get for having those 1-hit stunlocking death combos, you JERK
How does it feel?!
rancid cove
y'know what, they HAVE to keep the iceborne techs in rise, imagine having An Extremely Japanese Setting and removing iaijutsu from the longsward
dire condor
LS is in such a perfect state right now. You don't need to add or take away anything
That weapon has peaked
So has Charge Blade
lethal jay
i think dual blades is also in a good state
haven't really looked at the latest update tho
my mhw friend group is dead rn
dire condor
I main IG and my only real wish for that weapon is to put a bit less emphasis on the finishing move of the ground combo, and also improve air damage a little bit. Not so much that it becomes meta, just more valuable
rancid cove
Literally Just Make It Dragoon
dire condor
But constantly going for Tornado Slash on the ground just gets kinda boring after a while
lethal jay
yeah it's kinda weird that the aerial weapon is weaker in the air
broken smelt
I'm soooo far behind on mhw that fatalis would probably 1 shot me
rancid cove
i didn't even have gear that could take on alatreon when i stopped tbh
lethal jay
i could probably try alatreon with my current kit, but only barely
stopped around when safi dropped so i didn't farm that
dire condor
Fatalis hits like he's Arch-Tempered. One attack takes away like 60% of your life bar, and that's with Health Boost and 1000 defense
rancid cove
swole magala remains my favorite actual fight in the series tbh
broken smelt
Safi is availible right now I think
rancid cove
it's just so much fun to watch move
broken smelt
Yeah, that checks out for the absolute end game mon
Based on what I've sern there's a couple of things that could be tweaked to prevent unessesary carts
dire condor
He's my favorite fight in the game, though. Just as amazing as it is difficult. Shara still has my favorite final monster design, but Fatalis's fight is perfectly tuned for being the final fight
rancid cove
by mentioning shara ishvalda, you've activated my trap card! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XiFiYPxEQY&t=2s
broken smelt
Jokes on you, I wanted to activate your trap card 
dire condor
Shara is one of the best final boss designs in gaming history, imo, not just in MH
Capcom went above and beyond lol
lethal jay
the reveal was amazing
rancid cove
the phase transition is extremely striking
dire condor
Bro has Sharingan eyes and its ultimate is a giant Rasengan
MH devs are naruto fanboys, confirmed
actually the DB demon mode running animation already proved that...
also lmfao @ this video
the immediate clutch claw spamming is too accurate
I don't like CC a lot myself, but the amount of hate it gets is a bit much. There were so many players and streamers I saw just recklessly CC'ing onto a monster while it's flailing/flying around, they get knocked off and go all SURPRISED PIKACHU
dire condor
Exactly. It seems like a lot of players think being on the monster makes you immune to damage like a real mount
but CC mounts function more like Swaxe mounts
lethal jay
exactly that
rancid cove
tbh that's only my second favorite Something About MonHun video
this is the winner https://youtu.be/U3EFYEMj1zU
dire condor
Bird up
rancid cove
BEHEMOTH casts ECLIPTIC BIRDUP
dire condor
What in the everliving frick
rancid cove
ya
dire condor
this reminds me of my fever dreams when I had the flu lol
rancid cove
tbh monhun definitely got the better deal out of this crossover
like, the rat halo mount is rad and all, but you get to become estinien
rain marten
@inland geyser I agree that Hades does the job well, but there are quite the amount of roguelikes that can feel like a grind without strictly adhering with the definition. Dead Cells to me wasn't interesting because new weapons didn't feel different enough to change how I played. So playing it felt like a grind and was as draining as "normal" grinding
inland geyser
Yeah, absolutely, it's a fine line. I completely agree with Dead Cells.
Spelunky is one of the few roguelites that I think gets this right, and that's partly because it has a rich enough interaction system to make different playthroughs seem sufficiently different.
(And Hades, but mostly because Hades is as much a narrative game as a roguelite)
rain marten
I know some people that don't really care for the story and I'm sure the game and keep its interest for a while mechanically but I'd be curious to see what they would think in the long run.
And by not really care for the story I mean in most games, not Hades specifically
inland geyser
Yeah, I admit I don't understand those people: if a game has a narrative that's even slightly developed, it's automatically the most important part of the game to me.
But re: Hades, that's also why I am pretty sure I am going to find Hades grindy once I run out of subplots, if I am still finding it hard to progress the ||main plot via repeated clears||. So that might be when I turn God mode on...
By comparison, I loved Transistor, but I only managed to get halfway through the NG+ before I just... sort of... lost... interest.
rain marten
Meanwhile I'm here with 2 max level savefiles having experimented every function with every function
inland geyser
Right: if there had been a sandbox mode which just let me play with function interactions, I would probably have played that longer.
but progressing through effectively the same linear narrative, again, even with extra stuff [and limiter options]...
rain marten
Yeah I like doing wierd things so I usually end up playing a lot more than I ought to
To me I'm interested where the story is going but I'm usually not interested in the characters. I like things happening but not much exactly what happens
And the same goes with new mechanics, it's less what it does and more what can I do with it
inland geyser
I tend to find the two conflict for me: if you give me too many things to play with and a narrative I care about; then I'll be worried about messing up with the new things and slowing/limiting my ability to experience narrative.
If you give me a narrativeless sandbox, though...
wraith cradle
Genshin Impact has become officially the biggest launch in chinese gaming history
frigid dagger
dire condor
Finally getting around to Shadow of War. Mordor's one of my favorite games and I 100%'d it like...I think two times, beat it three times.
Probably why I didn't immediately play War because I was pretty burnt out on the gameplay
Also WTF Genshin's dash + sprinting is a carbon copy of the one in Nier Automata lol
timber badge
I think genshin stole some attack animations from Nier automata as well
rancid cove
truly, mihoyo are great artists
rancid cove
rancid cove
wraith cradle
God, Joseph Anderson Outer wilds playthrough is hilarious
rancid cove
did he ever get around to making the HZD video?
wraith cradle
In his first loop he enters and exits Dark Bramble without ever seeing an Anglefish
In the second he tries to enter the Orbital Cannon without Touching giant's deep because he fears that if he enters the 'water planet' he may encounter one of the 'Scary fishes of the museum'
rancid cove
tbh that's a toadally reasonable fear
wraith cradle
I was lol'ing so hard at that
rancid cove
it's just not a reasonable univarse
wraith cradle
I know it's just funny that after spending 15 minutes in Bramble he doesn't want to enter Deep because the fishes
Also I feel dumb that after finishing the game TWICE I had to read tv tropes to discover that there is an eject Button
I think I'm gonna create a new save to do the latest achievements I need
Like hotshot
rancid cove
i used the eject button in my final cycle to get past the anglers
wraith cradle
It's mostly useless because:
A. It destroys the ship
B. You don't give a damn about dying
rancid cove
yeah but it made for a VERY cool moment
like, i used it to get to the mothership, and it felt SUPER appropriate
wraith cradle
BTW I had a 180 with Nexomon
It has much better plot than Pokemon
Although it relies too much in meta Deapool-Like jokes
dire condor
Tfw even one of the best speedrunners of MHW took nearly 16 minutes for their best time against Fatalis
That dragon has a stupid amount of health, jeez
wraith cradle
That's what turns me off from MH in general
All bosses having enormous Health Pools
dire condor
I like it for the most part, but some monsters definitely go overboard with being damage sponges
Deviljho always irritates me with how long it takes to kill
considering it's HARD to hit his weak points reliably
Personally if it takes me 15-20 minutes, I'm alright. 25-30+ minutes and I'm either doing something wrong or the monster's HP was overtuned. Usually it's just me playing bad, but in those outlier cases, I can be playing really good and it still takes too long
I'd say Fatalis definitely has too much HP. They could remove like 1/4 of it and he'd be more fun to farm. But currently, farming a dragon that takes a minimum of 25 minutes for the average player to beat? Eugh
And the quest has a 30 minute time limit, so if you hit that, you have to start all over
Personally I like how most other monsters are tuned, though. On average, 15-20 minutes. But if you play really well and basically dominate the monster, 5-10 minutes. They go from feeling long to being almost disappointingly short
Cause it's always fun to annihilate a monster with your accumulated skill
rancid cove
keep in mind also that the game is pretty much designed so that your first clear of a monster will always be the slowest
because you can probably upgrade something with what it drops
dire condor
Watching a 15 minute Fatalis clear with bow...this dude is a legend with the bow, wow
Making me wanna play some bow lol
rancid cove
im so glad monhun finally got back to dual stick controllers, a complete paradigm shift for the ranged weapons
dire condor
Well this guy's using mouse and keyboard on PC, but I still use my gamepad even for ranged weapons anyway
rancid cove
sure, but for like 15 years the series was only on 3/ds
dire condor
MHW has pretty good analog aiming, and it slows it down when aiming at a monster so you can quickly snap to the monster and then do a precise shot
rancid cove
o wormst? that's neat
dire condor
Now I'm addicted to watching people's first Fatalis clears
I love the intense emotion and hype of it. I did the same thing when I beat Sekiro; go watch other people beat the hard bosses and feel the same rush of victory euphoria with them
I remember when I beat ||Sword Saint|| in Sekiro, I just sat there for 10 straight minutes in sheer disbelief that I won. I remember it almost didn't feel real. A game hadn't made me feel that way in many years.
Back when I was younger, I was utterly addicted to that feeling of beating hard games, and doing challenge runs. I did a wooden sword playthrough of Ninja Gaiden Black. Nowadays I'm a lot more casual, but some games will bring out the old competitive spirit in me.
rancid cove
man sekiro's final boss is my favorite fight of all time
no other grand finale has ever felt like such a cumulative exam
dire condor
I achieved a zen state during that fight. 100% focus, nothing else mattered except me and that boss.
It was the best rush ever.
I also beat him on my second attempt, which equally floored me. I expected to hit a wall, but something just "clicked" in my brain when I fought him
I literally had an anime-tier power up moment. It was nuts
rancid cove
it took me like a half dozen, mostly out of disbelief that they were really gonna pull out damn near every single combat mechanic in the game for that one fight
dire condor
I like Dark Souls well enough, but it wasn't until Sekiro that From Software became legendary in my eyes. That game is the reason Elden Ring is at the top of my hype list at the moment.
Admittedly, Bloodborne probably would have been the game to do it, but I never got a chance to play that. Never got a PS4
rancid cove
yeah sekiro is imo the mechanical peak of fromsoft, until it i would've said nioh had categorically better combat than anything they'd made
dire condor
Nioh 2 I'm pretty hyped for, assuming it's coming to PC like the first. Team Ninja is legendary to me, just because I'm a huge Ninja Gaiden fanboy
Those games are masterpieces. I even love 3, despite its flaws
rancid cove
i have to imagine it will, it's just leaving money on the table not to after they showed that the first one was a timed exclusive
dire condor
It was probably gonna be November-December of this year, coinciding with the first game's pattern, but the devs got set back heavily by the pandemic
I don't expect the port until 2021 now
rancid cove
im feelin march tbh
wraith cradle
Sekiro Spoilers: I always found hiarious how the Final Boss is called ||Sword Saint and he brings a Spear and a Gun to the fight||
opal grove
ikr
rancid cove
dire condor
It does make sense from a lore perspective, at least. The Ashina way is "do what's necessary to win," which means he's gonna pull any dirty tricks he can to beat you.
and in that regard, his grandson took that ideology to the extreme.
I consider ||Owl Father|| to be the true final boss of Sekiro though. It has the most significance to the main character's personal story, and I honestly find it harder than ||Sword Saint||
It's also a perfect metaphor for the title of the game: Shadows Die Twice, since ||he's the only character you kill twice throughout the game, and he's a "shadow" like you.||
rancid cove
it's certainly the only other fight i'd consider in the same weight class as the final
wraith cradle
Fun Fact Genichiro is supposed to be fight right after 'MY NAME IS.....' but people usually find him hard so they wander off to do the other routes and end fighting him when he's way below the intended power level
What kills me of the Final Boss is that you're supposed to ||Kill Genichiro after each retry and that gets tedious||
eager hamlet
Why does Kingdom Hearts not have a map
quartz latch
eager hamlet
I mean their level design is actually fine
But god is it easy to get lost
Why is the respawn point for the boss
At the start of the room before the boss
rancid cove
farming
eager hamlet
Its right after a savepoint
If someone wants to farm, they can just load from save
It means retrying is a pain
rancid cove
Twitter
rancid cove
literally the first time i've seen it
pliant heron
I had to google around to get the joke
rancid cove
and now you know better than to do that again
twin yarrow
is that some kind of pop culture reference?
quartz latch
Homestuck. It's a Homestuck reference, cursed status and all 😂
stiff galleon
I find the owl|| (father) ||to be easier than the actual regular version because of how predictable and easy to deal with his new moves are.
wraith cradle
Something I find hilarious about ||First Own boss fight|| is his poison bottle attack
The animation
How he gently throws the bottle to the ground
And the bottle moves almost like it's in a planet with the gravity of the moon
rancid cove
yeah its a p safe bet that if u see something thats clearly a refrance, and u dont recognize it, its probably hamstruck
eager hamlet
Man
Kingdom Hearts has a huge problem with continuing to spawn enemies well past the point at which it should stop
Like, Im in a room that should have 1, maybe 2 waves of enemies
It has 8
At least
rancid cove
normal marsh
i bought control earlier today, and though it looks great visually, i couldn't get over the internal monologue and the enuciation of jesse's va
rancid cove
aw
lethal jay
are there settings for subtitles and voice volume?
also anyone have opinions on before we leave?
considering getting it
broken smelt
From what I've seen it's good
From the actions of the publisher being scummy I'd wait till it goes on sale
normal marsh
@rancid cove i really wanted to like it, but i heard the internal monologue happened often, and i felt like it would put a mark on my experience with the game as a whole
thank you again for your help yesterday about it, i might watch a playthrough instead
lethal jay
no i'm talking about before we leave
broken smelt
Ahhh ignore me then
lethal jay
wraith cradle
i bought control earlier today, and though it looks great visually, i couldn't get over the internal monologue and the enuciation of jesse's va
@normal marsh
I understand your point, but It's a bit hilarious when Ahti is in the game.
Obligatory ACKSHUALLY it's internal Dialogue
normal marsh
oh yeah, apparently she's talking to ||the pyramid ||
wraith cradle
||Nope||
rancid cove
nnnnnnot quite
wraith cradle
Neither
||The Oldest house, The Pyramid and the voice in your head are different characters||
Well, That's not an spoiler but I'm erring in the side of caution
broken smelt
Looks like something you'd enjoy, at worst you can always get a refund if you don't like it or doesn't play how you'd expect @lethal jay
rancid cove
the oldest house does not appear to communicate, no
as to whether it's sentient, that's kind of a big question
exotic rune
oh we're talking about control? 👀 i watched a friend stream the whole thing, was SHOCKED how much i liked it, and got it for myself for a lore reading replay haha
rancid cove
yo the Safe documentation can screw right off
that is some u p s e t t i n g nonsense
wraith cradle
I already ranted over AWE so not gonna repeat myself
I also have the Tango drilled in my head
Control also made me realize TGA needs a Supporting character category
Or at least divide between actor and actress
Like only one actor can receive the award?
exotic rune
oldest house definitely sentient imo
rancid cove
or something similar, at least
exotic rune
i was ngl kind of mad when AWE didn't let me ||let the spaceman out of his prison cell|| lmao that guy was a hoot
wraith cradle
I love the background of that guy
||'Ey. Don't you find weird our buddy needs to come back to Earth grabbing the rocket by the outside?'||
exotic rune
Didn't he cram in with the others but just ||didn't have a seatbelt so he just ricocheted all over the interior|| 😂
also just like the perfect intonation as he says utter nonsense.
||"Tubes! :D"||
lethal jay
wraith cradle
Blue: I was in electrical.
Yellow: IT WAS RED!
Red: H O N K
rancid cove
apparently vanillaware has a real bad track record re: porting to pc
as in, they don't do it
sonic echo
any suggestions for another arpg with clean combat and many customizable abilities/weapons etc? Having a hard time getting into anything else after hades. Used to love isometric crpgs but the only ones i like ive played to death (pillars 1 and 2 i have combined 3600 hrs for ex, lol).
wraith cradle
You can't release bad ports if you don't port them 😏👈
rancid cove
loud blaze
that's too good
hybrid jetty
sorry zagreus, you don't have enough obols for that boon! come back when you're a little, mmnrrrrnghhhhhhh, richer
wraith cradle
Nah boi, fighting in Elysium is what all warriors should strive for
Well
I think I'm gonna give up on Nioh
rancid cove
aw, but it's the only game where oda nobunaga exists for exactly the duration of one boss fight instead of being the main villain
uncut holly
Where ya at in Nioh? Or 2 for that matter.
Once you get the stamina system down its pretty gut. And abusing discord status by proccing 2 elements
rancid cove
boy it sure does show that nioh came out right at the end of an era that it has a debuff called "discord" huh
uncut holly
Discord was already a big ish during niohs release. Or the debuff was called confusion. Not sure.
wraith cradle
Nioh 2 I wont buy iy until the possible ultimate edition
As not all DLC have come out
rancid cove
you couldn't get away with a mechanic called "discord" these days
wraith cradle
Someone told me the Game had an Spanish Ninja and I had to see it by myself
rancid cove
but yes, that's what nioh 1 called it, at least
nioh 1 also had yasuke, the legendary african samurai
uncut holly
I mean. Nioh2 deluxe has the season pass in it but understandable
Yasuke is in 2 as well
rancid cove
WAIT REALLY? SICK
wraith cradle
Nioh 2 is a preseuql, right?
uncut holly
Nioh 2 happens before 1 ye
rancid cove
i played the 2 demo and loved it, but i think im gonna wait til march for confirmation of whether there'll be a pc port
uncut holly
Essentially ye
wraith cradle
Because the spoiled me ||Will. i. am.|| is a boss
wraith cradle
Also I find Hilarious the game has a character with the same name and overall physical appearance than one of Bloodborne's most iconic characters
rancid cove
lady maria?
rancid cove
there's only like 2 other iconic bloodborne characters, so my odds were p good
(micolash and vicar amelia)
wraith cradle
Ludwig: Am I a joke to you?
uncut holly
He can burn in heck
rancid cove
that's not a character, that's a war crime
uncut holly
Thats what you get for partaking in blood
rancid cove
blood, like gender and shame, is a folly in which i refuse to partake
uncut holly
Do you partake in demons?
rancid cove
nice try officer
uncut holly
Nioh 2 lets you use yokai abilities
Shame they nerfed Nurikabe but eh. Had to happen.
rancid cove
nerfikabe
uncut holly
Enjoy the discord in nioh 1 because that got adjusted in 2 ahah.
rancid cove
i mean it makes sense, in 1 it's incredibly broken
uncut holly
For the better as its... Broken in nioh 1 once you just... Abuse it.
Ye
procs discord stamina begone!
rancid cove
once you get the peafowl you can basically just discord everything immediately and melt it all for scrap
uncut holly
Those poor yokai
rancid cove
more like jokai
uncut holly
Next nioh2 dlc dropping this month. Adds claws 
rancid cove
separate from tonfa?
uncut holly
Yis
The base game already adds the nioh1 dlc weapons + 2 additional weapons.
Nioh2 dlc1 had a trickstaff kind of weapon. Next is a fast clawlike/cesti weapon
wraith cradle
Tonfa is a word which is inherently funny
sour cipher
mortal siren
should i buy risk of rain 2 or kof xii?
dire condor
Can't believe I'm playing Genshin Impact...but I'm actually super impressed by it so far. I'm sure eventually I'll feel the grind and be tempted to buy characters, but for now it's a fun enough game
I will say, unlocking some starter 4-star characters has been really easy. It's probably the 5-star ones that are going to be "get lucky or pay up" sorta deals
dire condor
Also wow, Nioh 2 gets staff and claws. TN is basically adding every weapon type Ninja Gaiden's ever had
We just need nunchaku/flail now
rancid cove
should i buy risk of rain 2 or kof xii?
@mortal siren rainrisk imo
wraith cradle
Threat of Precipitation is great imo
wise cedar
its tru
forest stirrup
vast trout
I present to you my favorite platforming game
https://twitter.com/SpiderOuija/status/1313251260968046592?s=20
rancid cove
radiant dock
anyone gone ahead n gotten baldur's gate 3 on early access?
i Thirst for dnd content so all th trailers of th game that i've seen so far look fantastic but i'm wonderin if it'll be worth it t'get it in early access or wait til it's 1.0 launch
dire condor
Hades or risk of rain 2
normal marsh
as in to get?@dire condor
dire condor
Yes
normal marsh
i haven't played risk of rain 2, but i have played hades and i can attest to it's merit
dire condor
Yes I play hades, it’s absolutely awful
normal marsh
?
dire condor
IM KIDDING it’s the best game I’ve ever played in my life lmao
normal marsh
wait i thought you were asking whether to get hades or risk of rain 2
or were you debating which was better
rare bone
Risk of rain is fun. Aside from the roguelike nature of it it's not really comparable to Hades. I don't know ow much I'd recommend it if you're going solo, but if you've got friends to jump in with it's super fun.
junior crown
oh wow Baldur's Gate 3 is 150 GB didn't expect that
radiant dock
yeah i read up on it, it says that it's gonna be three acts, so what early access gives is a full act 1
9 races/subraces, 5 classes (iirc), n a mostly-complete story is what th page says
i'm excited but don't have th funds right now, so i'll probably buy it later
wraith cradle
Why 150? Why not a million?
rancid cove
Twitter
twin yarrow
soon all the games will be selled with hard drives already provided
and encrypted.. cartridge renaissance
rancid cove
normal marsh
holy crap i'm like 45 minutes into horizon zero dawn, this game is amazing
so much emotion in under an hour, and it has great world building
i can tell this is gonna be one of my favorite games
rancid cove
it's definitely my personal pick of the 2017 litter
normal marsh
graphics are some of the best i've come across
rancid cove
yeah i've been saying since it came out, and i stand by it still, that we don't need graphics to get any better than hzd, just like. simulation tech
fabric, hair, water, etc
normal marsh
i think we're still a little ways off from uncanny valley level, but i feel like hzd's graphics through say miles morales is a good midpoint
and i agree, if the simulations become very realistic i would have no other desire for higher graphics
rancid cove
that UE5 tech demo did some radical things with lighting, so i think we're nearing the peak there too
dire condor
I just beat Horizon last night.
It's fantastic.
Definitely the second best game out of 2017.
rancid cove
honestly my favorite characters are ||travis tate and general herres||
followed by varga and vanasha
also nil is a fascinating study in functional psychopathy
dire condor
I didn't finish all the bandit camps, but I heard kinda what goes down when you do, and uh. Hrm. I'll probably fire my file up again at some point and do all the sidequests I can.
rancid cove
hzd was the....second? game i platinumed, and the first one i explicitly set out to do so for
dire condor
I think the very first game I Platinumed was Armored Core 4.
That still might be the only one.
rancid cove
ok
i have platinums for hzd, nier 1, and i THINK ff15?
so i guess hzd would be third
forest stirrup
i'm also on the genuinely thought hzd was fantastic train
and those audio logs were so perfectly juicy
and the ending ||may have made me cry a little||
open egret
any good third person videogame ??
lethal jay
that is a dreadfully unspecific request
hybrid jetty
breath of the wild is third person, so i'll go with that because it's an easy recommendation with literally no other criteria
junior crown
yeah are there any other specification? There are a lot of third person games, and they differ quite a lot
mortal siren
like hades is third person
lethal jay
so is animal crossing
rancid cove
lethal jay
#fan-works ?
analog bison
Just curious, what are some of yalls other fav roguelites?
Mine are Enter the Gungeon, Slay the Spire, and Children of Morta
hybrid jetty
darkest dungeon, i suppose maybe enter the gungeon but i never got really into it
lethal jay
heroes of hammerwatch is good
analog bison
Oh man Darkest Dungeon is sweet too, I just never really got into it/good at it
Oh I haven’t heard of that one
Is it on any consoles or just PC?
lethal jay
just pc i think
analog bison
I’ll have to look into it
rancid cove
slay the spire, monster train, rainrisk 2
hybrid jetty
i kept hearing such good things about dead cells but i've bounced off of it every time i've played
oh yeah risk of rain 2 was fun
lethal jay
not to be confused with hammerwatch or hammerwatch 2, which are not roguelike but are otherwise similar
hybrid jetty
my problem is that aside from hades and maybe DD, I can never find sufficient reason to continue playing after winning
analog bison
Have you tried Slay the Spire? In my opinion they do a good job of ramping the difficulty in an interesting way
No story/narration tho
lethal jay
it kinda has a story but not a lot of it
lethal jay
one way heroics is also a fun roguelike which is also a turn based rpg with tiles like actual rogue
analog bison
I played a little of that
There was one I had on my Switch called Wizard of Legend that I found very interesting
But I’m a sucker for magic stuff like that
rancid cove
i bounced off it, but a lot of people seem to really like heat signature
hybrid jetty
oh man I forgot i owned one way heroics
and i love heat signature but didn't even consider it as a roguelite despite i guess fitting the bill
harsh patio
Dead Cells does a good job of keeping you going
I had to put it down after hitting 4BSC on it though because, uh...I need to git gud
wraith cradle
Just curious, what are some of yalls other fav roguelites?
@analog bison
Dungeon of the endless, everspace and Crying Suns
Oh one way heroics 1 and 2 are awesome
Othercide can be for you if you are into XCOM
Dreamscaper is promising
Dungeon of the endless is so awesome is a must if you're into roguelites
junior crown
For me it's: Dungeon of the Endless (nice to see someone else has played it), Going Under, Griftlands, Slay The Spire, Golden Light, Post Void (very flashly and short tho) and Caves of Qud.
Oh and Nuclear Throne and Undermine
Crying Suns and FTL would be on that list too, but while I enjoyed it, I can't lie I feel slight tilt with rng in these. 
eager hamlet
One Step From Eden is good
sullen moth
the binding of isaac for me, my first roguelite game
my first game that i commited hundreds of hours into too 
junior crown
Man I totally forgot about One Step From Eden. The struggle of having so many rogue-lites and rogue-likes in the library. 
hybrid jetty
it's more a of traditional roguelike rather than roguelite (btw i think the distinction is dumb but whatever i abide by it) but Tales of Maj'eyal is really fun
similar to Caves of Qud, very classic
junior crown
I totally need to get back to CoQ and get further into the game. I seen the monkey village only once.
And finally get over my worst enemy: my lack of caution and a good amount of set turrets.
normal marsh
i really want to get into children of morta but it's pretty hard lmao
i still can't beat the spider boss
hades is the only other roguelite i've ever played so maybe i just don't have enough experience in the genre
lethal jay
the genre of roguelike/lite doesn't really have much bearing on the skills needed for gameplay tho
it's just the combo of permadeath and randomised runs
forest stirrup
On the topic of roguelites: Into the Breach good
Could not get into FTL but fell in love with ITB
wraith cradle
I'm just a stan for Amplitude's Endless saga
quartz latch
Into the Breach extremely good 😌
junior crown
same I honestly love the Endless series
Endless Legend at the time seemed like a nice variety from civ, which I think lacked differences between commanders and their way of playing, which honestly what makes me love Endless stuff a lot, the characters and factions play differently enough to keep coming back
also lore stuff and drawings for the stuff is awesome too
my only gripe with it is their one day per year events 😔
I always forget to do them
twin yarrow
does hearing name counts? or it should be only an actually familiar game
tall hornet
i dont know what a "video" "game" is
rancid cove
they have both gestalt and replicant up there
their next big release is a replicant remake
this COULD mean they're considering also a gestalt version of it
tall hornet
.... a sequel to nier, called fahr
wraith cradle
It follows the L ending
twin yarrow
i've only now got that sqex is square enix
tall hornet
Squeenixed
hybrid jetty
i've always called it squenix
wraith cradle
Squenix is my favourite Pokemon
humble dust
hybrid jetty
that trailer did look pretty detailed
never played a final fantasy but i'm kinda interested in this one, it looks like it might even get rated m
not that rating is a selling point but i found that interesting
rancid cove
tbh i'd prefer 7r2
wraith cradle
I can imagine it's also got a chunk automatically done by virtue of reusing ffvii engine and assets
And combat
rancid cove
i mean, they're both in the 15 engine
wraith cradle
Yeah I suppose
rancid cove
and yeah 16 seems to be using a lot of the tricks from 15's playbook even beyond that
eager hamlet
Im unsure about both 7R2 and XVI
With the former Im worried about the direction of the story
Im not opposed to changes per se, but there is unfortunately a real risk of the changes messing up the narrative elements in favour of something boring
It depends on where they go with 2 specific plot points
With the latter, the trailer made it feel not very FF-like
Im fine with the setting-change, but its so needlessly gory that it feels out of place
And something about the art direction bugs me
rancid cove
tbh they'd have to seriously beef it on 7r2 for me to be disappointed
wraith cradle
Don't worry about the story in 7-2 Nomura will patch the gaps with Belts and Zippers 
eager hamlet
For me it wouldnt take much
If they just play the ||screw destiny|| plot straight for example
Thatd be disappointing
rancid cove
so, what, if ||aerith doesn't die|| you're out?
hybrid jetty
i liked where they were going cause i saw it sort of as a ||commentary on remakes in general||
rancid cove
yeah my problems with the game were 0% about the writing, for sure
the sidequest roadblocks sucked and the combat was at times badly-tuned, but i loved the narrative choices they made
wait
1% about the writing
if beck and/or his bada**es show up ever again, im setting nomura's house on fire
wraith cradle
I personally loved the sidequests and the ambience
I never thought I was gonna say this
But FFVIIR is now one of my favorite Cyberpunk media
Also it's hilarious how after decades of ||Aeris dies|| being the Luke is Vader's son of videogames in this remake it has, in fact become an uncertainty
rancid cove
im not sure it counts as cyberpunk
might, though
i mean, shinra DID make barret's arm
and arguably own the genetic patent to SOLDIERs
wraith cradle
Ffvii has
Mega corp controlling a nation
Army being corporate
Bioengineering used for evil
rancid cove
that's just capitalist dystopia, cyberpunk is distinguished by the commodification of bodies
wraith cradle
Dirty cities and technology LITERALLY killing the planet
rancid cove
and like, questions of what makes one human
wraith cradle
General apathy where people prefer commodities over the environment
If it wasn't for the Magic and the Constructed world it would be as cyberpunk as it gets
Granted now the sequel us out of Midgar it would be less
You know? World War Z is a legit game?
Was playing co-op with friends and is a blast
eager hamlet
Its borderline Cyberpunk
But not quite
And no, actually, ||Aerith not dying isnt what Id have an issue with. In fact, the direction I want the story to go could easily use her not dying as a plotpoint||
||My issue would be if its played entirely straight, as in the original events are ordained by a mystical force of destiny, and the goal of the game is just them fighting that force and change destiny||
||Because thats just lame. Its not an interesting plot in general, its even less of an interesting plot in the context of FF7R||
rancid cove
the sense i got is that ||by leaving midgar they had broken the Whispers' hold already, and the grand plot going forward will be about whatever this new Sephiroth's deal is||
eager hamlet
||I also wouldnt be too happy about that, because I think Sephiroth as a villain who is also invoking "screw destiny" isnt great||
||What I was hoping for, and still kinda am hoping for, is that its Aerith who is behind all the changes to the timeline||
||The pieces for that plot are in place, our entire understanding of the Whispers comes from Aerith, who could well be lying, Marlene saw something when she touched Aerith, which Aerith told her to keep secret, and a lot of the timeline changes involve Aerith one way or another||
rancid cove
wraith cradle
I don't think Sephiroth is saying ||Screw Destiny||
More like ||Oh damn, I lost very badly in the Original Timeline, better wise up to avoid losing this time||
Like he wants To ||Avoid destiny because if he doesn't HE DIES||
twin vine
Anyone here play both the digital and board game version of Gloomhaven? Curious to know if the digital version is faithful to the board game.
eager hamlet
||I mean sure, but its the same concept, Albino||
rancid cove
gneisssssssssssss
exotic rampart
agreeable grunt
rancid cove
zealous fossil
I'm still sad that deus ex died for this
junior crown
Maybe it will revive itself after such a big failure? Maybe not, but there can be hope.
pliant heron
Abzu is free on the EGS
lavish wraith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVlLQukT1QY
Always ❤️ Greg
fathom juniper
barely 30 seconds in
"probably the single greatest horror-themed action game ever created" 
this and F.E.A.R.
greg sure has a great taste in spooky shooters 
rancid cove
boy that sure does date it to pre-dead space huh
fathom juniper
oh dead space is good, don't get me wrong ||at least - the first one is||
but it sure as heck gets really stale really quick
at least for me
anywhoo
danny is back with another great episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEXEMH--QIE&ab_channel=NoclipPodcast
it's actually really interesting and fun to listen