#h1-story-discussion

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rain roost
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destroying the lounge in the process

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resetting the contractor

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gg

thorny surge
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dusa doesn't really leave the house outside that one time she gets fired, she's probably on the rafters or cleaning something on the other wings of the House

supple dagger
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there's other wings?!

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Kinda a serious question. I only expect the last big doors to be Hades' bedroom.

thorny surge
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lore-wise? of course, the House is massive when you see it on the map, and everyone that isn't Hades or you also needs to sleep

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in-game there's only what you can visit, which is basically the great hall, the archives and your room, and later down the road we might be able to enter Hades' room

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i wonder how we're going to get into that one, don't think we'll be able to leverage our authority to get into Hades' room

jade slate
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hades romance arc

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i gotta say it would be really funny if there were voice lines from hades if zag selects give up in the intermediate hallways

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when hades taunts him

rigid pine
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Im missing one enemy in the wanton ransacking prophecy, can anyone tell me which one is it? Its above gigantic vermin and under dire bother

thorny surge
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maybe the big satyr?

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i don't think snekstones have miniboss forms

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thank god for that

open berry
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theres the purple snakestone

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p sure its purple

shadow dune
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Well, that was an ominous/interesting FB quote ||You cannot escape... none of us can||

thorny surge
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yeah

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it's probably literal

plain palm
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well zag's not escaping, he's exploring... and who are 'us' anyway

atomic forge
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He's definitely trying to escape.

shadow dune
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Otoh it does seem like Than can go wherever

atomic forge
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He's death, in order to keep the world running he needs to be able to get out.

shadow dune
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Well yeah, but makes the statement still kinda extra mysterious on what it means.

open berry
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than himself confirms he traverses across most of the world

shadow dune
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Exactly.

rigid pine
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Holy shot finally got the knave king sentence

shadow dune
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Which one is that?

rigid pine
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Sysiphus sentence

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And I didnt even talk to hades tho, this favor is confusing af

vague granite
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|| how to get hidden aspect for shield and gun if thier is any? ||

drifting citrus
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check the pins for those requirements @vague granite

vague granite
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tyty

jade slate
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really dont like the implications of zag saying “i’m all worked up” after taking an aphro boon

chilly hawk
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It's ok, he won't have enough blood left to stay like that for long

jade slate
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zagreus bursts into the final fight

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and

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yknow

lapis smelt
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Weird. I looked through the pins for the fourth aspects and it seems that it might be a bug. Need someone to test it though. It seems that only blood spent towards non-zag aspects count towards the five. I got the 4th rail aspect immediately after I forced a Zeus boon but when I maxed out Zag's sword aspect I didn't get any dialogue from nyx. Will try tomorrow to see what happens. Testing this by spending 5 blood on zag rail and 5 on eris rail. 5 blood on zag aspect didn't give me the prompt but spending it on eris aspect did so immediately.

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This technically means if you max out the non-zag aspects of your weapons before you get Guan Yu, it might be possible to lock yourself out of the fourth aspects permanently. Would like some sort of confirmation

pallid crag
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i thought it was just 5 blood anywhere
huh

lapis smelt
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Hence why we need more testing

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Alternatively you can only have one aspect unlock phrase at a time. But then the testing I did with Eris and Zag rail doesn’t make sense

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My sample size was pretty small though. I had 2 runs with spending blood on zag aspect rail and 2 runs with blood spent Eris rail. The two zag runs didn’t give me the dialogue (got one commenting about the Keepsake and the other one talking about how Zeus would escort Zagreus to Olympus). The two times I spent blood on Eris rail got me the aspect phrase the first time.

broken wave
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You don't suddenly get the dialogue after you reach 5 blood

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You need to exhaust a certain amount of dialogue before hand

lapis smelt
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That doesn’t make sense with my results though. I should have not been able to get Rail aspect unlock immediately after spending 5 blood on Eris in that case since despite doing the exact thing with zag aspect rail.

vapid parcel
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i spent only blood on the zag sword and got the dialoge two runs after

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so that's not the case

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it's just rng

lapis smelt
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Was this before or after today’s patch?

vapid parcel
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before, i haven't had a chance to play

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probably a bug if not bad rng

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try reporting

lapis smelt
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I don’t have enough information to file a full on bug report. I’m trying to collect more data in the other threads

vapid parcel
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good luck with that, then!

jade slate
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big fan of the new full call lines in trials

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only heard artemis so far but its funny

bleak jolt
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Yo peepz

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Do you know how to unlock the new companion

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its an ant or something

vapid parcel
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talk to Patroclus

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and achilles

bleak jolt
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Hmm

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I guess i have to talk to them alot

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cause if done that

vapid parcel
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exhaust all dialoge and then get the contract

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you need 7 diamonds for that

rapid vault
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how do I unlock the heart for athena? other gods I got open by spamming conversations and dying but for her its not happening

vapid parcel
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hmm could be bad rng it's just conversation

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maybe talk to nyx

ornate siren
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@cloud jungle you can give bouldy a nectar to get a small bonus once per run, so nectar kinda has a use, along with trader ofc

cloud jungle
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OH IS THAT WHAT THAT DOES

ornate siren
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YES

cloud jungle
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what bonus does it give?

ornate siren
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It's random

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There's a bunch

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It's tiny

cloud jungle
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is there a wiki page?

ornate siren
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But I do it every run

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Probably

cloud jungle
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even if it's tiny I'd like it since I have no use for nectar aside from turning it into other things

frozen jolt
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Hades Wiki

Bouldy is Sisyphus' boulder and constant companion. As his punishment for cheating death, Sisyphus is forced to push Bouldy up a hill constantly, only to have it roll back to the bottom, repeating this process for eternity. Over time, however, Bouldy has become something of a ...

cloud jungle
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I do it every run too for the meme, I just never paid attention to the boon it gives.

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I noticed it once, but thought it was because I had sisiphus keepsake

ornate siren
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It's actually a big reason for me going to bouldy room sometimes lol

cloud jungle
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"ambiguity bonus"

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???

frozen jolt
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exactly

cloud jungle
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I mean

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I guess it's fitting

frozen jolt
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its ambiguous

ornate siren
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It's just a really nice bonus

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And has definitely swayed me on super tight choices

frozen jolt
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i dont give bouldy nectar bc i save it to trade for ambrosia, since i dont really play with heat

ornate siren
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Sisyphus has a big downside in that it isn't a room for chaos boons, and I never want to be taking a curse into furies

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Fair!

cloud jungle
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Every time I beat the heat level with a weapon, I will only play on the next highest heat

ornate siren
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I should be doing that as well tbh alma

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I just skipped a bunch of heat levels and slowly trying to push to 24 and then hopefully 32

cloud jungle
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I mean, I have little need for ambrosia until next patch

frozen jolt
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i do want all the statues one day but it seems like a distant dream, im just hoping they wont have achievements tied to them LOL

cloud jungle
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so do you guys think when the game releases we're gonna actually be able to go up to olympus

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like as a hub room to see the gods "in person"

ornate siren
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I play on EGS so no achieves for me anyways

cloud jungle
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gross

frozen jolt
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i dont think so since it was never the goal

cloud jungle
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I want achievements

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and trading cards

ornate siren
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I got the game on release so :p

frozen jolt
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but i guess we will see 👁️ 👁️

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im v excited for the ending

cloud jungle
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you guys think the game will change much with the ending

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moreover, do you think the ending may be a little different in different runs

ornate siren
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No idea

frozen jolt
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im curious how the whole game will work without "underworld renovations"

gloomy crag
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I guess this goes in mild spoilers. I'm about 20 runs in, and I'm wondering if each run is "random" or if they weigh/lean certain affinities to nudge you along progression wise

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(not complaining about it)

fierce gust
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any clue on how to unlock the new legendary aspects ? i've done quite a few runs since the patch, and i still dont have any of them

visual mortar
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how to unlock them is in the pinned messages, @fierce gust

fierce gust
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so it is, thanks!

plain palm
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wait what if the unending renovations are the thing that is keeping everyone in the underworld

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and zag won't be able to escape until he finishes it

fickle comet
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Greg is the final boss. shadeohboy

plain palm
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he always is

fickle comet
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He's the one always killing Zagreus.

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Logan is his avatar through whom he speaks to us and Zagreus.

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It all makes sense now.

gloomy crag
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also other side note, did i imagine things or did the river by zag's bedroom/first room and the rest of tartarus recently turn blood red?

junior field
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it's always been red

thorny surge
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yeah it's always been red

jade slate
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i mean ive gotten +8% coins from bouldy before which is pretty cool

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fun fact, they didnt record any lines from charon they just woke up logan cunningham at 1 am in the morning

ornate siren
eternal breach
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hrrrnnggghhhhhhhh

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It's a dangerous gamble, you don't want him to narrate you into bad situations later

jade slate
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ah man

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nyx’s laugh when you give her ambrosia

junior field
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spooky, right?

jade slate
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no its kinda hot ngl

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finally got the sisy keepsake

dense sparrow
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its best keepsake

jade slate
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ive been running meg this whole time

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although meg sure does have its uses

open berry
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theyre all situational

dense sparrow
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not really, sisyphus is always good, tho less effective when you have full hp

lost gorge
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I’m using guan yu and it isn’t healing

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Is that intentional?

dense sparrow
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speen heals

jade slate
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its only on charge attck

lost gorge
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Weird, it wasn’t activating

analog anvil
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Is there a good way to get more titan's blood beyond that ones you get for beating the furies with each weapon? Still early-ish I guess, I've made it to Theseus and Asterius at farthest so far.

crimson temple
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Watch out for broker deals.

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Most ways to get blood are gated behind the final boss.

analog anvil
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AH, makes sense

fickle comet
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Final boss gives 1 Titan Blood.

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So you can get 2 Titan Blood for every clear.

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You can also trade 1 Ambrosia for 1 Titan Blood, which I definitely did a few times early on.

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Oh wait, you wouldn't have that yet. Well, just focus on upgrading your mirror, I would say, and getting some House Contractor upgrades that help with your runs.

analog anvil
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Ah. I saw I can get some Ambrosia from Theseus, but I've only made it to him once and he kinda tore my face off during that fight. Managed to get the two to half health but that was about it

fickle comet
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Give Nectar to people for keepsakes, and level them up.

lunar kiln
proven fossil
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Also it's best to take one out first

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Usually the Minotaur

jade slate
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0/10

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no skull disco ball

fickle comet
clear oracle
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0/10 East Wing is red

analog anvil
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Thats fair

clear oracle
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Should have been blue with lilac to match Night Mom color

jade slate
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-10/10 no skull disco ball and red east wing

proven fossil
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FoxHope gets it

jade slate
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delete your save and try again

analog anvil
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nothing's too good for Night Mommy

proven fossil
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Lilacs all day

clear oracle
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Lol poor guy posted a screenshot and everyone went sicko mode on him xD

fickle comet
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Why are you guys so mean? shadeohboy

clear oracle
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BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR HAVING POOR TATSTE

eternal breach
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We are the furniture police.

jade slate
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he didnt even colour coordinate how are we supposed to take it seriously

eternal breach
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We take no prisoners.

analog anvil
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Alright, best get back to it I guess

proven fossil
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I believe in you English

jade slate
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why are you playing hades if you dont want to decorate the house?

proven fossil
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Remember each failed run is a lesson AhriLove

analog anvil
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Oh good I can alt tab again

fickle comet
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@lunar kiln I think it looks nice. Good job! friendly

clear oracle
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I just use windowed mode

jade slate
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hades is a house decoration simulator that pretends to be a roguelike

proven fossil
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It's not even his house

clear oracle
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And a dating sim, too, kinda

jade slate
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a house decoration visual novel with roguelike elements

proven fossil
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It's his dad's

lunar kiln
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poor taste?? me????

analog anvil
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Yeah I spent the first couple runs killing Meg and suiciding into the lava until I got Tartarus down pat. I'm not doing that for anything past that since that's way too long of a trip

lunar kiln
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also i'm sorry but the skull disco ball is ugly and thats a fact

jade slate
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thats why its called revolting

lunar kiln
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yeah so i'm right

proven fossil
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Always remember that no matter what Bouldy believes in you

jade slate
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skelly house baby!!!

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skelly takeover

eternal breach
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Skull disco ball is ugly

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You are a man of culture as well

fickle comet
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You'll get more than enough practice in the early biomes. Suiciding your runs only means you don't get to practice the later biomes as much.

jade slate
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^

eternal breach
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I just wish characters reacted to the disco balls

jade slate
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i thibk my favourite part is that its not even a disco ball

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its a soul catcher

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repurposed

proven fossil
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And splurge only on chef

drifting citrus
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strangely cruel

proven fossil
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Because he deserves it

analog anvil
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Yeah I stopped suiciding about 7 runs ago or so since I'm confident I can get past Tartarus and the boss with any build right now. Asphodel's more of a tossup still but I feel like I got the boss down mostly

clear oracle
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You can do it

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Never ending road to calvary

proven fossil
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Soon it'll all be muscle memory

snow iron
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im gonna ask my question here since it could be a spoiler:

||is the room after you fight charon random or is there a pattern to it? i got sent to the left room||

open berry
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just depends on where in elysium you are? there was someone on steam complaining about immediately getting pushed into asterius encounter afterward lol

snow iron
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Exactly what happened to me lmao

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I fought him in asphodel too tho once

open berry
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oh hes in all three biomes i just had elysium on the brain bc i was thinking of that post lol

atomic forge
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Definitely happened to me before, getting dropped into a miniboss fight with a sliver of health left.

snow iron
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But there's no way to choose which room is gonna be next right

open berry
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no

snow iron
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Aight thanks guys

open berry
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i mean granted i havent played a single game in a week and im not known for stellar memory 🤪 but im p sure you dont have a choice after the fight

knotty moss
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so much new stuff in the update, eh?

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havent seen most of it yet

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might come here a few times asking the routes

snow iron
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I don't mind it at all, it's just a bit weird since you normally always have a choice of where to go next, and his fight takes place in erebus so why not let the player choose then too

knotty moss
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most things have been random chance if im not mistaken

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even the new mini boss

open berry
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this is like the first official mention ive seen that directly states no more olympians

snow iron
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Wait character? As in NPC or playable

open berry
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npc

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zag is the only playable

knotty moss
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1 more olympian, huh

open berry
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no

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no more olympians

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is whats said

knotty moss
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oh im blind

snow iron
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I mean there are no Olympians left are there

knotty moss
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1 more character

open berry
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lmao mood tho

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there are missing olympians not in the game, apollo is a common one people ask about

knotty moss
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that being ||pesephone||, of course

open berry
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yeah thats the guess

knotty moss
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the 1 character missing from the game, needed for the story to be complete

open berry
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bc you cant feasibly add in a brand new character with 1.0 being right around the corner

snow iron
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Oh yeah Apollo, he might be the last weapon aspect tho

open berry
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nah the last aspects are from different religions/myths

knotty moss
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didnt rail get an aspect this patch?

open berry
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so its not gonna be any of the olympians

snow iron
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Rail one was lucifer

knotty moss
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so yea then i dont think apollo would make it

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which is the last weapon without an aspect?

snow iron
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Fists

knotty moss
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ah

molten temple
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As far as missing Olympians, we've got Hephaestus, Apollo, and Hera (and also Hestia). None of them have particularly strong reasons to help out, given how busy their portfolios keep them.

knotty moss
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i guesses rama for bow and ravana for fists, but we cant really have 2 hindu aspects

snow iron
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All of those are covered tho except apollo

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Hephaestos is the Hammer and Hera and hestia are aspects

molten temple
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Daedalus is the one who leaves behind the Hammers.

snow iron
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Ohhh yeah true

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I mixed them up mb

open berry
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heph isnt even namedropped

knotty moss
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in before an actual person becomes the aspect for fists, like mike tyson or someone else who is a famoun boxer

open berry
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hes vaguely implied in one single line i can think of off the top of my head and thats it

snow iron
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Isn't heph the blacksmith God?

molten temple
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I kinda wish Aphrodite would at least name-drop her husband, but ah well.

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I mean, Guan Yu is an actual person but I get your point.

snow iron
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Hercules would be cool as well

open berry
molten temple
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I can see Hercules as maybe an Elysium mini-boss. One-on-one similar to Asterius.

knotty moss
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gaun yu, king arthur, and so on, these are people who existed, but they have legends to their names

open berry
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im actually glad theseus got used over hercules because hercules is. to be frank, overplayed in media. its nice to see someone else whos not as prominent but has a bunch of interesting myths in his own right get used instead

snow iron
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Yeah if herculed is gonna be anywhere it would be elysiun

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Yeah I agree tatz

knotty moss
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i dont really know any mythological boxer, so thats why im suggesting real life boxers

snow iron
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Altho I can't stand theseus

open berry
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i doubt theyre gonna use anything super modern in last aspect

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theseus is actually hilarious once you realize hes all bark and no bite

snow iron
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They won't use Hercules for fists that would be kind of a rip off of God of War

knotty moss
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i mean, arthur is medieval

open berry
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i mean super modern as in the last couple hundred years

knotty moss
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so thats a jump from 2000 BC

proven fossil
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They've all been different cultures as well

knotty moss
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different tales or religions, from different places

molten temple
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Hm. Y'know, I just realized that the next Fist Aspect is likely going to be that of another ancient deity.
The left side of the weapon rack includes:
Arthur (Sword), Guan Yu (Spear, and Beowulf (Shield).
The right side of the rack includes:
Rama (Bow) and L------ (Rail)
Left side has all legendary mortal heroes, Right side has all deities. So Fists is likely to be another Deity.

knotty moss
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i guess i got an idea, but i know nothing of that culture

open berry
knotty moss
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hmm

open berry
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interesting to point out

proven fossil
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That actually works out better

knotty moss
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that seems logical

proven fossil
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Hmm

knotty moss
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so i guess its not gonna be some japanese folklore

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they do describe deities and all sorts of demons, but a lot of just miracle tails of someone being lucky, aswell

shadow dune
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My guess would be out of either Africa or Indigenous America background

open berry
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people are reeeeallly hoping for egyptian mythology representation in fists

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which could be fun

proven fossil
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Native American representation would be sick

knotty moss
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hmm, i cant recall any fist fighting god from smite

open berry
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in fairness i dont recall lucifer wielding a laser gun

knotty moss
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mayan gods? thats a great guess too

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that is also true lol

molten temple
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Sekhmet (as someone suggested) would be very nice for that. Claws and what not. Plus female rep on the Legendary Aspect.

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While I did like my Jarngreipr suggestion as one of the only mythical gauntlets anywhere, we already have two Legendaries from the European region (Arthur/Beowulf). We've got two Asian Legendaries (Guan Yu/Rama). Lucifer technically functions as Middle Eastern(?) since that's where Christianity began. So Egyptian rep for another bit of Middle East/sorta African Legendary would round out the Old World.

knotty moss
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who is beowulf, btw

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assuming that there is no female L aspect, i never heard of that dude

molten temple
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Old English epic, about a warrior king who fights demons with his bare hands and eventually dies shortly after slaying a dragon.

shadow dune
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Beowulf is an old Danish hero/king

knotty moss
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ah

molten temple
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The story is set in Scandinavia in the 6th century. Beowulf, a hero of the Geats, comes to the aid of Hrothgar, the king of the Danes, whose mead hall in Heorot has been under attack by a monster known as Grendel. After Beowulf slays him, Grendel's mother attacks the hall and is then also defeated. Victorious, Beowulf goes home to Geatland (Götaland in modern Sweden) and becomes king of the Geats. Fifty years later, Beowulf defeats a dragon, but is mortally wounded in the battle. After his death, his attendants cremate his body and erect a tower on a headland in his memory.

open berry
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its neat how they actually incorporated that story into the aspect itself. you take more damage using it

molten temple
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Warrior dies while using a shield against dragon
SGG: while using his Shield Aspect you take more damage.

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very good

knotty moss
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i use the damage punishment on max anyways lol

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it doesnt matter if you dont get hit

open berry
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its just one of those neat attention to detail sort of things

knotty moss
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then again, i lose death defiances to the final boss

eternal breach
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I would love aspect of Sekhmet

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She's one of my favourite gods

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🐱

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👊 👊

crimson temple
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It may be some of a hot take, but I think that Lü Bu would have been a better choice for the fourth spear aspect than Guan Yu. Both are heroes from the same Three Kingdoms era, and their weapons are equally iconic (Guan Yu carried the Green Dragon Crescent Glaive, also called Frost Fair Blade, whereas Lü Bu wielded the Heavenly Phoenix Halberd, also called Skypiercer). Lü Bu was renowned for being a daredevil with a vicious fighting style.
Lü Bu has the added argument of committing patricide not once but twice, killing two adoptive fathers, especially the tyrant Dong Zhuo, who he offed Caesar-style. He is vilified for that because that's among the the gravest sins commitable in regards to Confucian morals, meaning he is more of a light-and-dark hero than Guan Yu, who has been lauded als a stalwart and unbendingly loyal moralist. But there's also L, so that's not much of an argument.

open berry
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guan yu is celebrated on the level of a deity though, lu bu not so much

eternal breach
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Aspect of Sekhmet also feels fitting for Malphon, as she was one vicious goddess

open berry
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the patricide angle would have tied into the story more, sure but idk

eternal breach
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Greg pLES

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Now i really want it someone pour a bucket of cold water on my head so i chill

open berry
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maybe they should just tie in red hare somewhere and we can have guan yu and lu bu 🤧 lmao

molten temple
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Given that context, I think Guan Yu works better for this game. All three of the mortal champion Aspects are celebrated in their homelands as righteous heroes. If Lu Bu is as vilified as you say, then his legend wouldn't fit for this game. As far as having a patricidal champion to mirror Zagreus, we already get that dialogue for using Lucifer. No need to double-dip.

crimson temple
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Perhaps you're right. It would be redundant.

eternal breach
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I'd change my name to sekhmet fists but i like my nickname too much

jade slate
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do not pursue zagreus

open berry
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does so

eternal breach
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can i join

open berry
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only if you have the strength to endure

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its a meme btw, do not pursue lu bu

eternal breach
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I have never met this strength person

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Blow on me gently and ill fold like a folding chair

jade slate
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hades tries to access eldest sigil

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window pops up

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do not pursue zagreus

lost gorge
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Who tells you about rama and lucifer? ive got arthur and guan, but i wanna know which npc i should be on the lookout for

jade slate
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rama is artemis

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lucifer is zeus

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beowulf is chaos

lost gorge
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thanks

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do you just get them from a boon? do you have to gift?

jade slate
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and fists requires you to scanlate one punch man and email to supergiant

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its just boon dialogue

lost gorge
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thanks

open berry
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affinity not required for aspects

jade slate
#

might need to invest some blood though

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not sure where

open berry
#

5 blood minimum

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each weapon

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its all pinned to this channel

jade slate
#

yeah so either max out zaspect or whatever

open berry
#

you have to do more than zag iirc, maxing zag only invests 4 blood

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it already start at lv1

jade slate
#

pretty sure its five

open berry
#

thats what im saying

jade slate
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because i definitely got the aspects when the only ones i maxed were zaspects

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and nothing else

open berry
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zag aspect starts at lv 1. maxing at lv5 is 4 blood used

atomic forge
#

I think you still have to unlock Zag Aspects.

jade slate
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ah yeah its one to unlock the level 1

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been a while

open berry
#

it has

jade slate
#

so yeah its five

open berry
#

well either way 5 blood min

#

its pretty generous because they could have like. required all three previous aspects or smth

jade slate
#

thats less blood

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4 total to unlock all three previous

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1/1/2

open berry
#

mate i am not talking about the blood lmao im just saying like they could have required you to have everything unlocked

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like for fists i prefer zag aspect anyway

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so im gonna pump into that

jade slate
#

ok

open berry
#

but some weps i prefer another aspect

molten temple
#

some people would consider it more of a "waste" to invest blood in aspects you know you won't use than to spend more blood however you prefer

open berry
#

so me as a player, im gonna invest into those

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im not specifically talking about the blood investment here but saying that in a manner of speaking its more generous to allow us to spread blood as we see fit instead of just straight up requiring everything unlocked

jade slate
#

you’ll have to unlock everything anyway

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for the prophecy

open berry
#

no one is saying you dont!

lost gorge
#

things heating up in the hades fandom

jade slate
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actually three people are saying you have to

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very strongly

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your stepsisters(?)

open berry
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im tired and all im saying is that not everything revolves around the perspective of players who have everything unlocked already, i shouldnt have to sit here detailing every contrary scenario because someone wants to be technical about a minor thing

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so thats done

eternal breach
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I maxed all zag aspect because idk theyre zag aspects n i love zag

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Do i use them?

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.... Not really

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xD

split kelp
#

Zag aspect is fantastic on the Fists and very usable on Spear, Rail and arguably Bow if you can handle the Bow which I totally can't.

eternal breach
#

But what happened here

split kelp
#

Maybe even Sword as well.

eternal breach
#

I love zag fists and bow

split kelp
#

It only really stinks on the shield.

eternal breach
#

Its the first weapon i beat the game with it has a special place in my heart

split kelp
#

First clear was with Talos fists, which was totally carried by the Demeter cast so the weapon didn't really matter too much.

eternal breach
#

My first was zag shield yeah

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Tho i have most clears on Exagryph

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Mostly Eris, some L some Zag

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Should give Hestia a look but i dont have much blood rn

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I saw L and immediately drowned it in blood

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  • unlocking rama and beo
split kelp
#

Hestia I've grown to like a lot lately. Eris is the one I'm most "meh" about, tbh.

eternal breach
#

I love eris

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You get to stand in your boom all badass absorbing the blow with your godly pecs

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Shower time brb

atomic forge
#

Disney's Hercules Meg and Hades's Megaera going back and forth saying "rippling pectorals"

rocky goblet
#

does anybody know if the hidden aspect for the fists were in the blood price update? i have the shield, bow, and rail, but i dont remember anyone talking about the fists

molten temple
#

They were not

rocky goblet
#

f 😔 theyre my fave weapon too

molten temple
#

They only just came out in the previous Major Update, so it makes sense to put off the Hidden Aspect release.

rocky goblet
#

true true

molten temple
#

hmm. looks like fully loaded is unlockable pretty easily now. Only have Arty Cast and Support fire but just procced it in Styx.

atomic forge
#

Hunter's Mark?

molten temple
#

got that too

atomic forge
#

You need two of Support Fire, Hunter's Mark, or Exit Wounds, it's great now.

molten temple
#

so much easier than it was before

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practically required Arty's cast

atomic forge
#

how to get the song 'The Bloodless'?

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i got all of song but bloodless

molten temple
#

doesn't it just cost 2 Diamonds at the Contractor?

atomic forge
#

i buyed all of song from contractor

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i get v mark

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but i cant play 'The bloodless'

analog anvil
#

There we are, finally beat Theseus. Almost died and probably wont last long on the next room, but still

molten temple
#

nice!

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@atomic forge I'm not sure what to tell you if it's unplayable at the stand after buying it. I'd assume its buyable condition is fighting Bloodless in Asphodel. maybe submit a bug report with f10

half shadow
#

what are the requirements for ||Fully Loaded legendary boon from Artemis|| in this latest update?
I managed to get it for the first time earlier today, but only because I used ||Fated Authority, and got like 8 boons from Artemis|| before getting ||Fully Loaded|| ... so I'm still not sure what the requirements are, and I no longer care for spoilers on this matter

molten temple
#

You need two of Support Fire, Hunter's Mark, or Exit Wounds, it's great now.
-Schpoonman

midnight lichen
#

So what exactly happens if I get cerberus at max hearts?

half shadow
#

@atomic forge I think The Bloodless OST plays on the Barge of Death. Not sure if fighting there will unlock it

atomic forge
#

i buyed all of music i can buy

molten temple
#

@midnight lichen His keepsake gets a new line. No mechanical changes.

atomic forge
#

thx i'll try

midnight lichen
#

So I've just wasted all my ambrosia

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Rip.

open tiger
#

Is Cerberus a waste though? :3

analog anvil
#

Oh, the enemies in Styx aren't all that bad. Much easier than the Elysium ones. Suspiciously easy

eternal breach
#

[Zag voice] Never.

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English Language is about to be hit

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By the final room

analog anvil
#

I picked up the "enemie scan drop heal items" well item and a horde of rats picked me back up to full

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good stuff

open tiger
#

Nice :D

half shadow
#

You need two of Support Fire, Hunter's Mark, or Exit Wounds, it's great now.
-Schpoonman
@molten temple
@molten temple and @atomic forge thanks.
I think I actually got at least 2 of those on a few runs before, but I only got duo boons from Artemis in the end... seems like I might have had bad luck in getting the ||Fully Loaded|| boon

molten temple
#

Legendaries are very rare to proc anyhow.

half shadow
#

fair enough

analog anvil
#

Hmm, well that final boss makes enough sense I guess

#

yeah didnt think I'd win that first try

open tiger
#

Still, congrats on getting that far!

eternal breach
#

^!

rocky goblet
#

i am so living for the new tlc drama going on between ||theseus and asterius||

amber falcon
#

a weird question but what's the origin of the name Exagryph?

clear oracle
#

Like the original machine gun in Greek Mythology?

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I don't think there is one man

tired hemlock
#

Yes, ancient greeks indeed had no automatic rifles/artillery guns

ancient folio
#

The origin comes from a time before human civilization 😁😁

amber falcon
#

I know there weren't any machine guns xD

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I meant the name of the machine gun.

#

like what inspired the devs to use the name Exagryph

open tiger
#

From a quick search, not finding anything

lusty barn
#

the only think I can see is the prefix Exa, and a shortening of Griffon

ancient folio
#

From researching for 4 minutes it seems like exa means six in grek

lusty barn
#

Exa = 6

clear oracle
#

Fwiw, the devs said there is not necessarily a historical inspiration behind everything

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They just do what they think is beneficial for the game

ancient folio
#

And the adamant rail has a griffon head

amber falcon
#

@clear oracle that does help

ancient folio
#

Six shooter head

clear oracle
#

I read somewhere that they add the gun just because they can

#

Maybe you can start your search there for more concrete info?

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Good luck!

ancient folio
#

I'm assuming paprika meant the name, not the gun per se.

#

I can't see supergiant just shoving random syllables together haha

clear oracle
#

Fair enough. But if anything, #ask-supergiant is probably your best bet for info, still.

plain palm
#

ok a strong argument for zag finding perse at the end: darren wouldn't make a final song without ashley, and zag learning to play the lyre is definitely leading to him singing in the final song, so orpheus and eurydice seem unlikely

open tiger
clear oracle
#

Did you skip hammers or did none show up?

ancient mesa
#

Ok am I just dumb or doing something wrong or what

open tiger
#

skipped

ancient mesa
#

I can NOT get the sisyphus favor to show up

clear oracle
#

Do you have access to the Admin Chamber?

ancient mesa
#

Yep

clear oracle
#

Did you check in with Sisyphus, Than, Meg, and Hades?

ancient mesa
#

Maxed Sis, Meg, and Than on nectars, gave one to Bouldy like... 5 times now?

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None of em have anything to say about it

clear oracle
#

I'm not familiar with the exact trigger, but I do know you need to talk to Than Meg Hades and Nyx about Sisyphus

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Not maxing affinity

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Talk to them

ancient mesa
#

I'm pretty sure they've all talked about it at some point

clear oracle
#

I had the quest when I'm no where near max affinity

ancient mesa
#

Its been a while though which is what has me so confused

clear oracle
#

What did Nyx say about it?

ancient mesa
#

Uhhhhh man I cant even remember

clear oracle
#

If you did, Nyx should tell you about the location of Sis' sentence in the Admin Chamber

ancient mesa
#

Its been a long time since shes actually had anything to say about anything

clear oracle
#

Go to the Administrative Chamber and check if you are missing something?

ancient mesa
#

Nothing in there but the posters

clear oracle
#

And the quest still doesn't show in the contractor tab?

ancient mesa
#

Nope

clear oracle
#

Then there is not much to do but... do more runs and talk to Sisyphus even more...

fair light
#

Bando, can you please report that using F10?

ancient mesa
#

Oh, uh dang yeah sure

fair light
#

Thank you! We'll take a look to see if anything is up.

ancient mesa
#

There anywhere in particular you want me to be when I do it or does it not matter?

fair light
#

Doesn't matter yeah. In the House of Hades is fine, though if you're in the middle of an escape that's fine too!

opal turtle
#

Has anyone had any luck with the Friendly Wager quest for the Fated List? I got the quest from Hermes and beat Charon twice successively, but it hasn't been marked as complete. I've even spoken to Hermes several times since doing it yet he hasn't said anything. Is it just a matter of random chance as to whether Hermes talks about it, or does successive mean beating Charon in two successive runs rather than beating him twice but with other runs between those fights? Hope my game hasn't bugged out lmao

drifting citrus
#

two runs in a row

opal turtle
#

Oh damn so you gotta get really lucky with him showing up?

#

The way it's phrased in the List made me think it was just a matter of beating Charon twice without losing no matter how many runs came in between those fights

atomic forge
#

which character gives the new legendary keepsake?

drifting citrus
#

||achilles and patroclus||

supple dagger
#

||Achiiles specifically, but yeah, the new legendary keepsake is from Achilles & Patroclus||

atomic forge
#

oh does it happen after some kind of mission?

open berry
#

you ||reunite them||

atomic forge
#

okie dokie ty all

supple dagger
#

Sure thing Samsara!

opal turtle
#

Sorry for the question spam, but I'm also curious as to whether unlocking the rest of Hypnos' affection gauge is linked to the autograph thing with Asterius, or his conversation with Thanatos etc. Because I've died on purpose to Asterius mini-boss a few times now but Hypnos doesn't have anything new to say when I return to the House.

open berry
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its not the autograph

supple dagger
#

I legit actually did forget that Hypnos has new affinity post-update. Lmao

open berry
#

also theres about 3? iirc separate dialogue from hypnos asking for the autograph, you need all of them to proceed, eventually zag will inquire during the solo encounter. but yeah thats an entirely separate thing

opal turtle
#

Him and Ares are the only 2 characters I haven't maxed out, both are being real slow to unlock lmao

open berry
#

ares was bugged for a while

#

he should be fixed though

supple dagger
#

Ares was my main focus. But yeah, Hypnos was very much "oh yeah, you're here" for me

open berry
#

hypnos just involves an inherently lengthy chain of dialogue

opal turtle
#

Aah ok, got ya. Still confused as to why he hasn't mentioned it anymore. I've had at least 2 dialogues with him about it but none since despite Asterius killing me since.

#

Im making progress on Ares, still havent unlocked his Fated List quest yet either though

#

Last time I spoke to him he mentioned a war that's going on up on the surface, excited to see how that might tie into the games ending in V1.0

lost gorge
#

skelly had some dialogue about the tooth and hermes, but i mustve skimmed hermes's lines about it, does anyone know what he says

open berry
#

the tooth? ||Hermes: I got a keen eye, boss, so I happened to notice that you've got a certain tooth you're carrying about. Know you're from the land of the dead and all, but don't you think that comes across as just a little odd?||

lost gorge
#

much appreciated

plain palm
#

omg tatz

open berry
#

yes

lost gorge
#

do you have to be using the weapon that has a locked 4th aspect, to get it from a boon? like do i need to use adamant to get the zeus dialogue unlocking lucifer? or can any weapon get the magic voiceline

open berry
#

your equipped items have no bearing

lost gorge
#

wow, ive just been very unlucky

open berry
#

all i can say is double check that you meet min requirements, if the gods arent giving the proper dialogue you may have other stuff cycling through first

plain palm
#

tatz i absolutely admire your lore and dialogue mastery

open berry
#

i might literally have some spreadsheets with dialogue organized

#

not everything mind you but for my favs and such

#

to a degree

lost gorge
#

yeah lol every time i get an answer it's tatz

open berry
#

sjkghd hides under a rock

plain palm
#

anyway stan tatz

open berry
plain palm
#

i mean it is really impressive

#

and also helpful for many people!

open berry
#

channeling hyperfixations into something useful, like obnoxiously having dialogue at hand at any given time

ancient mesa
#

Hell yeah

open berry
#

WH areswhat

#

now i really do need to run

ancient mesa
open tiger
#

Hades:

|| A naïve hope, at best. The more you step away from your responsibilities, the less you shall want anything to do with them. ||

That makes so much sense about his character

proven fossil
#

He is repressing alot

#

I honestly feel like he's the type of dad to only know how to work and not really be a family man which is why we are in this situation

mint kestrel
#

Can we reunite our favorite grandpa and nyx yet?

drifting citrus
#

if you mean ||chaos||, then ||yes||

vapid parcel
#

we've been able to reunite them with her for a while

mint kestrel
#

Huh.

#

Do I need to do anything other than to just... do runs and talk to them?

vapid parcel
#

yeah, you need to get about 8888 darkness to repair the sigil in the administration chamber, but for that you need dialoge with nyx

mint kestrel
#

wait, WHAT

#

8888 darkness?

#

Well

#

time to grind.

supple dagger
#

Getting 8888 Darkness was easy... it's easier if you alternate between weapons that are highlighted with purple/black. And get any Chaos boons that increases Darkness, Poseidon boons that increase darkness and/or rewards instant Darkness...

#

and you interact with any Troves that reward Darkness

#

I'd like to say, by the end of the run, you could get... 1200 Darkness on a blessed run.

#

maybe more than that.

mint kestrel
#

Hmm...

#

alright.

supple dagger
#

oh yeah, and also if you just do reruns of Pacts that you've already completed, bosses will reward Darkness instead of the usual Titan Blood/Diamond/Ambrosia

#

I forget how much... like 500?

mint kestrel
#

Oh.

#

Yeah, that.

umbral nexus
#

Smth happend, if win Hades with full Pacts :D?

mint kestrel
#

No, but I think you can make the heat gauge cry.

umbral nexus
#

Yea, it is I see ;D @mint kestrel

supple dagger
#

yeah, if you force all the Punishments before you're supposed to get there, it'll say something like "great. you broke it." or something like that.

minor kite
#

Oh yeah, if you beat Hades on a heat you've already completed it gives you 1300 darkness

umbral nexus
supple dagger
#

so yeah, my "mininum" is off. You could get 2400 Darkness.

minor kite
#

Just found that out after finally beating this week's challenge

mint kestrel
#

oh

#

Pair that with the “darkness is also health” benefit and you can guarantee success

#

Btw what happens when you spend a total of 10000 coins at charon?

ashen latch
#

You get a new outfit

#

Swagreus

umbral nexus
#

O_o

#

But how to know, how you spend?

mint kestrel
#

Haha, funny

#

No seriously, what happens

#

I can smell that is fake from a mile away

umbral nexus
#

It's how a film in game,which very hard to reach. Just believe ;D

mint kestrel
#

.

#

Ok

ancient mesa
#

Spend 10k? There a way to keep track of that?

umbral nexus
#

Have question: for each aspect weapon have new upgrade in daedalus hammer ? Bcs I saw already 2 or 3 new for specific aspects.

supple dagger
#

The New Aspects do have their own respective hammer upgrades (to my knowledge). Which is neat.

drifting citrus
#

each of the 4th aspects have their own unique hammer, with rail's 4th having 4

umbral nexus
glacial cedar
#

Whats this bat cage

#

whys it so expensive

#

is it worth?

drifting citrus
#

it allow you to ||zoom out and view the entire House||

glacial cedar
#

Ohhh

#

Thats neato

#

well I think I'll spend some more time decorating first

drifting citrus
#

so you can see your aesthetic in action

gilded grove
#

What are the requirements for unlocking the secret boss?

drifting citrus
#

you have to ||have beat the final boss once. then, there's a chance of seeing a bag in any mid biome shop. take the bag|| and you will activate the secret boss

turbid trellis
#

bag acquired.

open berry
#

get ready to get decked in the face

dense sparrow
#

its too hard

#

dont even try

#

doesnt stop me from trying every time i see the bag

drifting citrus
#

i'd say zag's got it in the bag, but we know he doesn't

distant pike
#

Does forming a bond with the gods have any impact on gameplay?

eternal breach
#

Nope

drifting citrus
#

extra dialogue

autumn void
#

some added flavor text to keepsakes, too

distant pike
#

Yeah that's what made me wonder if it changed them in some way

#

The extra dialogue is neat

drifting citrus
#

the warm satisfaction of building healthy relationships with your family

distant pike
#

I think it also makes them less mad when you don't choose their boon

dense sparrow
#

no it doesnt, the punishment is still sever

umbral tusk
#

healthy relationships with your family
things hades has obviously never heard of

molten temple
#

@karmic apex There's a slight adjustment to the fight intro dialogue for reaching the Final Boss on the first run, but no special dialogue for defeating FB on the first run.

eternal breach
#

Wait rrally?

karmic apex
#

defeating Face Book?

eternal breach
#

The defeat quote i got the first time felt like it was supposed to be for first time

karmic apex
#

oh, final boss

#

LMAO

#

I'm like damn face book is a hell of a antagonist

molten temple
#

Zag's line changes from

Mustered your wretched forces to kill me, over and over.
to
Mustered a bunch of incompetent wretches to try to kill me.

eternal breach
#

You reach the surface and theres just Mark Zuckeberg waiting for you

#

OH WAIT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YUKINE MEANT

#

Im dum

karmic apex
#

Zag Voice:

"Zuckerberg.. where is my mother.."

Zuckerburg:

"...."

tired hemlock
#

He would eat your soul and delete your save

karmic apex
#

"Time to die.."

eternal breach
#

I see we are reaching undertale levels of soul eating and save deleting

karmic apex
#

imagine a boon but it's pitch pale blue and has an f on it

tired hemlock
#

Effect: completely fills the codex

eternal breach
#

Your run data will be recorded in the admin chamber!

#

FOREVER. ALL OF IT

karmic apex
#

LMAO Plouton.

#

You should be granted admin

eternal breach
#

We'll also sell your run data to Charon so he can use it to sell you items he thinks you need

karmic apex
#

One of Hermes lines has him impersonating Charons groan and it made me laugh so hard.

stoic tulip
#

Do I need to buy the 4th spear aspect with blood to be able to unlock the other weapon aspects or is it enough when it's available to buy?

molten temple
#

I think Peach's wording means unlocking it with blood.

covert kettle
#

Anyone knows how to unlock Sisyphus's companion?

#

Like I know I have to buy the thing from the contractor but how do I make it appear in the first place

hollow sage
#

@stoic tulip look at pins to see how to unlock each Aspect

turbid trellis
#

i am fairly certain you need to dump a lot of nectar into bouldy

covert kettle
#

That's the problem. I can't give Bouldy nectar

turbid trellis
#

keep talking to sisyphus then? unless youve maxed bouldy already

covert kettle
#

I gave Sisyphus the highest amount of nectar possivle

stoic tulip
#

@hollow sage I did, but the wording isn't clear

turbid trellis
#

just more dialogue i guess

covert kettle
#

There's no more dialogue

turbid trellis
#

hm

covert kettle
#

Trust me I've been visiting him constantly

#

Any chance this is bug?

turbid trellis
#

i dunno!

#

you havent had a dialogue where sisyphus prompts you to talk to bouldy?

covert kettle
#

I don't remember

#

This is my new save file

hollow sage
#

@stoic tulip yes you need to unlock hidden aspect of Varatha, as in actually unlock it, and dump 5 titan blood into the weapon you’re trying to get the hidden aspect of, and then talk to a given npc for the dialogue needed

atomic forge
#

how to unlock || chapinon antos||?

covert kettle
#

@turbid trellis Nevermind I just realized I never talked to Bouldy

turbid trellis
#

...

#

okay i’m glad i could maybe help

karmic apex
#

I just realized I could talk to him too

eternal breach
#

Does the than's keepsake comment basically confirm what zag's the god of thanthink

#

Because so far we've only had that info from what achilles >thinks< might be it

#

But those comments aren't written by Achilles

karmic apex
#

so what is than then

eternal breach
#

Than we always knew

#

But Zag is apparently ||of blood and life|| which is heckin' metal

#

Also fits the mythology zag who is of ||rebirth||

karmic apex
#

lol. Of course super giant made the main character in a rogue like the god of ||rebirth||

eternal breach
#

Though mythology zag is a lil confusing and not that well known

#

But the reason i brought this up

karmic apex
#

Same as kratos

eternal breach
#

Imagine Zag later on with fully realized powers

#

S c a aa arey

#

Using his blood powers to heal or mess up others

blazing star
#

So what are the speculations on who the narrator is?

hushed pilot
#

There are speculations on who the narrator is? I always saw him and his interactions with Zag as a funny 4th wall joke.

leaden epoch
#

Seems like the Narrator has to be something/someone. Didn't he spoil for Zag who his mother was?

eternal breach
#

He did

#

Still among the funniest moments in the game

karmic apex
#

He did?

#

Biggest plot hole: a collection of bones is the worst punching bag ever

fleet grail
#

how to unlock || chapinon antos||?
@atomic forge you need to ||reunite patroclus and achilles||

rapid vault
#

narrator seems to be ||the poet you buy statue for your home, next to achilles. if you interact with it enough narrator will reply to you||

leaden epoch
#

I knew I wasn't being patient enough with that dumb statue.

rapid vault
#

what are athena's remarks to break the lock? I'm coming close to 50 conversations with her since update and haven't seen anything new

leaden epoch
#

Wiki says she has voice lines she gives you after a successful run, acknowledging your strength, so probably no more specific trigger than beating the final boss and talking to her again

rapid vault
#

weird..maybe I'll try to force her boon right after completed run instead of running myself into spikes

karmic apex
#

The poet??

leaden epoch
#

It's one of three statues you can unlock for the west wing of the house. It's a bust of a poet.

waxen urchin
#

how do i use a spoiler?

dense sparrow
#

|||| on both sides||||

waxen urchin
#

||cool, thanks||

open berry
#

if you haven't seen that line yet, keep doing runs. they need to be completed.

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literally nothing else to her lock, it's just another instance of 'do this thing until it happens'

fickle comet
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What's up? Can't talk right now. I have to get to work. poof
Alright then, Thanatos.

eternal breach
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Than has a good day today i swear

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I summoned him twice within like 2-3 encounters and he said Again, already? in such a sassy voice i couldn't

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And then he poofed on me mid conversation because he couldn't word his thoughts as well as he wanted and just bailed

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I mean, i relate, but Than, please

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I wanted to buy you a chair :(

vapid parcel
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i love his reaction when you buy stuff

eternal breach
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Hsushs same

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[anime villain voice] THIS CAN'T BE

vapid parcel
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he seems to really like the table and i'm like!!

eternal breach
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(happy confusion) wHAT IS THIS ZAG

vapid parcel
#

he's so good

eternal breach
#

I swear there were like 5 emotions in that line

vapid parcel
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catch me crying in the club about than

eternal breach
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Surprise, excitement, hapoiness, what the hell zag, what the hell zag 2,

vapid parcel
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it's true

eternal breach
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Trying to sound like he doesnt need anything,

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God dammit Chris Saphire doing a great job with the voice acting

vapid parcel
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flustered too

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it's true!

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i cry

frozen jolt
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i bought all the stuff for thanatos while he was there to hear his reactions... and then restarted my game to get the gems back shadegrief

vapid parcel
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GASP

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wrow

eternal breach
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Remember the 'logan didnt record any charon lines, they just woke him up at 1 am' Than's hisses were made by spraying chris with a water hose

vapid parcel
#

agshdhd

frozen jolt
vapid parcel
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but like, man when he talks to zag and gets all emotional i'm just

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baby

eternal breach
#

I love Thanatos so much

vapid parcel
#

same

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he works so hard!!!

eternal breach
#

He's a dummy but who in this house isn't

vapid parcel
#

true

eternal breach
#

... Nyx isnt

vapid parcel
#

eh she's dumb in her own way

eternal breach
#

I diagnose everyone but Nyx with Dummy

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Ok Nyx as well

vapid parcel
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xD

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i just... love than so much???

eternal breach
#

I MEAN NAME ONE CHARACTER WITHOUT DUMMY SYNDROME

vapid parcel
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like the way he gets angry but still helps zag is sth i identify with hard

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plus they're just so cute together

eternal breach
#

I identify with poofing out of awkward situations

vapid parcel
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MOOD

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wish i could

eternal breach
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Tag yourself: thanatos

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Okay but

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Than's soft I'm here.

vapid parcel
#

I DIED

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..right?

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i'm.. already here.

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I DIED

eternal breach
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what are you waiting for, im.. Im already here

vapid parcel
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WHO ELSE WOULD DEATH BELONG WITH

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SOBS

open berry
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War

eternal breach
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THAN BLOOD AND LIFE

open berry
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Is a good choice

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Just saying

vapid parcel
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he's peaceful death tho

eternal breach
#

He and Ares do hang out dont they

vapid parcel
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that doesn't really fit war at all

open berry
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death still follows war lol

eternal breach
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Or theyre at least friends

vapid parcel
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than says he's more polite

open berry
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than still is responsible for the souls of the dead caused by war so

vapid parcel
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but i don't think they're friends

open berry
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Still an option

eternal breach
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Headcanons can fIX THAT

vapid parcel
#

than and zag kill me

eternal breach
#

grabs notebook

vapid parcel
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they're so soft

eternal breach
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god yes

vapid parcel
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do it.

eternal breach
#

opens notebook ALRIGHT

vapid parcel
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sobs in queer

open berry
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ares can be a romantic and I just like their dynamic better so that's all I'll say

vapid parcel
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i mean that's valid

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you do you man

eternal breach
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Alright but

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I feel like Ares would be very interested in Than's sword

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Honestly Ares as a huge weapon fan

vapid parcel
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personally i think it's an executioner's sword

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cause that makes sense

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but like, yeah ares is into weapons

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suprised he isn't with hephaestus

eternal breach
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Reminds me of Discworld death

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Who also had both a scythe and a sword

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the sword was reserved for nobles iirc

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in discworld not here

vapid parcel
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wrow classist xD

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jk jk

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i love terry prachett

eternal breach
#

discworld death is an amazing character i love him so so much

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Listen. Listen. What if we took discworld death things and like, put them onto than

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Because i honestly can very easily imagine some things applying to both

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Like being only seen by children, witches/wizards and animals

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And in Than's case maybe people who are about to die

vapid parcel
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i feel like than would hate being perceived

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perfect.

eternal breach
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Or maybe he can choose when to be seen

vapid parcel
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what i love most about than is the way he talks and like that he has sensory issues bc that's such a mood!!!

eternal breach
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Oh god yeah

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How to live longer: scream so thanatos will not go anywhere near you

vapid parcel
#

ahshdhdh

eternal breach
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Do you think he has ever snapped at Zag because he was too loud

vapid parcel
#

have a bright light

eternal breach
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Just shine a flashlight into than's face

vapid parcel
#

hmmm i can imagine he doesn't like zag just coming up to touch him randomly?

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he appreciates some warning before

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but zag isn't usually loud so idk

eternal breach
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than needs a 2 hour warning in advance that he's going to be touched

vapid parcel
#

me

eternal breach
#

IN CONTRAST I PRESENT

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clingy than

vapid parcel
#

agshdhhdhd

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maybe after/during blackout scenes shadeohboy

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get yourself a man who can do both uwu

eternal breach
#

what death once claimed it wont let go huh

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Zag asks if than can let go of him and than jut hisses

vapid parcel
#

as if zag doesn't enjoy being held

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that boy doesn't get hugged enough!!!

eternal breach
#

i want a hug button

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like a hum button in transistor but its hug

vapid parcel
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let me hug people

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hug achilles

eternal breach
#

let me hug the gods

vapid parcel
#

hug nyx

eternal breach
#

CHAOS HUG

vapid parcel
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hug the orbs

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agsggdgd

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hug cerberus!!!

tired hemlock
#

Nombody wants to hug hades?

vapid parcel
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nope

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he can go away and never come back

tired hemlock
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Honestly he could use a break, he may be blunt but zag is quite a handfull tbh

vapid parcel
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he's abusive, being overworked is no excuse

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plus zag isn't a handful, his father just constantly berates him and doesn't bother to try to understand him

eternal breach
#

yeah

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even with all this though

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im very sure Lord Hades isnt evil

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and means well

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he just REALLY REALLY REALLY sucks at it and is, dare i say, a boomer

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has his own view on things, refuses to listen to zag's point of view

tired hemlock
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I just think that he has some serious reasons for not wanting zag to escape, his lack of understanding is another thing...

eternal breach
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and by doing that, has blocked zag from listening to him

sharp root
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the thing is, Hades really dislikes his family

vapid parcel
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well, that wasn't my point, tbh

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he may have a good reason to stop him

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but that doesn't change the way he's shown abusive behaviour even before that started

tired hemlock
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His affinity progression is still nonexistent so I expect some meaningful character development oncr 1.0 hits

vapid parcel
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shown partially through the "titlecards" at the start of runs

eternal breach
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i want to see more of lord hades

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i like him

tired hemlock
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Yeah hades is a cool guy in mythology, not an evil overlord like most underworld kings are in other stories

vapid parcel
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yeah, i like mythology hades

eternal breach
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oh no i like him in the game too

vapid parcel
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..why?

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i mean, i'm honestly curious

tired hemlock
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I agree, his depiction ingame is decent, it's just unfinished at the moment

eternal breach
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Im interested in what is going on and all. Yes, he's abusive, he's the antagonist after all, and he surely is a 🐬 but he's also interesting as a character

vapid parcel
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oh that's what you meant

eternal breach
#

yee

vapid parcel
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i was very concerned

eternal breach
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no i do not approve of his parenting

vapid parcel
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yeah i was concerned man

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i have never been so glad to misunderstand stuff

eternal breach
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i genuinely love those little moments where he's even, idk, nice? not a major 🅱️? and im like 👀

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feed me those multidimensional villains sgg

vapid parcel
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i wanna know what's going on

ancient mesa
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The surface is always snowy and has been called a "wind-blasted wasteland" or something to that effect a few different times

Wondering if this is some End Of The World type scenario or something that Hades is just trying to save Zag from in his own rough sort of way

vapid parcel
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and mostly i wanna know what happened with persephone

ancient mesa
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And that's why hes so grumpy

vapid parcel
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i don't think so tbh? otherwise humans wouldn't still be around probably

atomic forge
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The surface is pretty nuked because of Demeter throwing a fit over Persephone being gone.

vapid parcel
#

yeah but humans are still around

atomic forge
#

Correct.

vapid parcel
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they must be surviving somehow

atomic forge
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There is a war going on, likely because of the eternal winter.

analog anvil
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Oh hey, there's the Guan Yu spear. Now I can finally start getting the others. Once I can get more titan's blood

wise wasp
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Okay, I did not know Zagreus did exist in Greek Mythology, but the description about in Wiki and how he got birthed is rather... Graphic
I mean, ||he was a part of Dionysus and titans tore him up and... Uhhh... what...|| (According to Orphism in Wiki)

ancient folio
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The song Orpheus sings is a nod to his multiple origins lol

autumn void
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oh yeah it's wild, and there's

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ah beaten lol

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yeah

analog anvil
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Greek mythology tends to be several sorts of messed up

ancient folio
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I looked up to see if zag was real. So when i got to that sideplot, I was cracking up cause I'd just read it haha

analog anvil
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Like Athena was born in Zeus' head IIRC

junior field
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haha, yeah, there's a comment from Athena/Demeter duo regarding that

autumn void
#

there's some dialogue ingame referencing that too in a fun way

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yep

ancient folio
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Yeah I think so. Athena alludes to it too haha. She's like, yeah my birth was pretty weird myself. Tell you later. Or something.

analog anvil
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Ah good, havent seen that one yet

wise wasp
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I'll be laughing my head off about the birthing in Orphism is what actually happens in game...

ashen latch
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Tbh Zagreus pranking Orpheus but Orpheus not believing Zag and Dio were just messing with him was great. The Orphic version of Zag and Dio being the same person being told to the person the faith was named after is just wild

wise wasp
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You know, the spit roasting....

ashen latch
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They also reference how Thesus in some versions is the son of Poseidon

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By Poseidon being all “can’t believe people actually believe that”

autumn void
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oh and that prophecy lol

ashen latch
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Because apparently Thesus is just as much of a loudmouth

wise wasp
#

They also reference how Thesus in some versions is the son of Poseidon
@ashen latch I thought I read as Zeus' son?

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Because apparently Thesus is just as much of a loudmouth
@ashen latch Even death and underworld cannot STOP his loudmouthing!

analog anvil
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It's fitting he's the son of Poseidon because he reminds me of Brave and the Bold Aquaman.

rigid pine
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Achiles story is so sweet

open berry
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thanthink was hypnos almost on the anniversary poster, disappointing if true

lost gorge
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theres a sparkly interaction spot in charons arena, but you cant look at it because you get teleported away after the fight, are you supposed to look at it during the fight?

atomic forge
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Check it before you pick up the card.

lost gorge
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ah right

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now i feel stupid lol

atomic forge
#

I definitely left it once, didn't see Charon again for a few runs.

analog anvil
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Pretend for now that ||Hades|| absolutely clobbered him.

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I can't even be mad, thats funny

burnt harbor
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I have to say

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Looking at Zag without half his face framed in shadow makes me feel awkward

junior field
#

talking about the new Zag dialogue face they added?

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there's something about it that makes it seem rough, unfinished

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compared to his other faces and those of other characters

analog anvil
#

Im going to assume these bounties are how I start racking up titans blood and all that other rare stuff?

junior field
#

yep

burnt harbor
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It's the eye size I think

junior field
#

along with doing prophecies

analog anvil
#

good to know

burnt harbor
#

Diamonds I personally farm them by saving gold to buy them to Charon

analog anvil
#

I dont usually get that far consistently enough, but good to kepe in mind

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I just got super lucky last run where I got a build where I barely had to interact with anything to kill them

eternal breach
#

I just used Than against Meg and boi do i feel dirty

ancient folio
#

||she liked it||

eternal breach
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She said "Okay... Then..."

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Doesnt help i had Than finish her off

#

He was also great lmao. "SORRY FOR BUTTING IN!"

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Broke: zag's new dialogue portait looks unfinished
Woke: in a Ralsei from Deltarune fashion, he goes lower on quality when he's awkward

opal turtle
#

Does Meg have many new dialogue lines in the new update for anyone?

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Cause she's had very little new to say for me.

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She had one new bedroom scene with Zag but nothing else

bronze ocean
#

For the quest of learning play harp, is there something to do it in particoular?

opal turtle
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I've heard talk of a threesome scene with her and Than and I wanna know how to activate that lmao

junior field
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Meg doesn't have new lines, I think. Her sisters do.

opal turtle
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@bronze ocean Nah you just keep playing it over and over, eventually Zag will start playing better. Oh and talk to Orpheus between runs and sometimes he'll comment on your playing. That's probably needed to complete it.

bronze ocean
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Ok, thanks!

opal turtle
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@junior field Yeah I'm liking all the new lines for Alecto and Tis. Guess it's just the random chance bedroom scenes for Meg then? Plus one I saw between her and Hypnos and her and Achilles.

junior field
#

yeah, bedroom scenes have always been random

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I haven't heard anyone report a threesome one though, yet

opal turtle
#

I got the second one with her pretty early on in the new update yeah

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I've seen a few people talk about it, a couple on here and one on a Hades Twitch stream

eternal breach
#

Never got a scene other than the first ones

junior field
eternal breach
#

Sad life

#

Ive also heard people talking about it

vapid parcel
#

i got a than scene recently

eternal breach
#

But im a bit 👀 bout it

vapid parcel
#

they're so wholesome

eternal breach
#

HOW ARE YALL GETTING SCENES

vapid parcel
#

rng

open tiger
#

Ya gotta be smooth

#

:P

#

I've gotten Meg twice and Than once

opal turtle
#

It is all about smoothness

#

Yeah it took me ages to get the Than scene

eternal breach
#

Ive only gotten both once

opal turtle
#

Both of Megs happened for me fairly soon after they became available to me

open berry
#

ive gotten one meg scene after 270 hours, rng truly just hates my existence

vapid parcel
#

i think i even got two than scenes but i'm not sure

#

i didn't romance meg so i can't say anything to that tho

opal turtle
#

I've never had a second Than scene

vapid parcel
#

i heard hers are more common tho

errant mango
#

I mean she's at the house more often. She doesn't even need to appear on a run to show up