#h1-story-discussion
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Aegis: get in my belly
Varatha, in the background: i wish i was just a regular spear.
gfvghhcghdcghdcgh eyes largr than its stomach as the saying goes...
GFCHGDDXGHGHDCGH
Kinda sad that Hades’ aspect is the only one to be an actual trident
And not a bident as the others
Zag: Hm. Weird. I sense... Some unease from the weapon? Know anything about this, Skelly?
Skelly: oh no nothing at all boyo
Varatha: HE CALLED ME A SPORK
HFVHFHJFHJ
that vine but like
sisyphus: what do you want for lunch, prince zed?
malphon: the blood of titans-
zag: a bagel
malphon: nooooo
zag: TWO bagels
Hshdhdausu
Sisyphus: do you have spirit, prince Z???
Zag: I have spirits.
Sisyphus: wh-
Zagreus and Aegis screech
jkgjhfgjhfjhfhjfj
Also i think its said in the codex that by zag and achilles' doing stygius was reforged?
I dont remember the whole entry but
Imagine: its grateful
zag put them back together...slowly waking up under his warmth and steady hand ;w;
Stygius: no... Hurt??? Im.. Here? Whole??? Im... Not gathering dust anymore im in someone's hand???
I feel like it depends but if he sucks at smth he persists until he doesnt
Oh and
"Now the blade lies broken, survived only by its burning soul. I knew that Master Hades would pay little heed if I provided all the shattered remnants of the thing to his own son, who naturally was able to reconstitute them into something more than functional, indeed. It has been long since last the blade had a partner, and as I transported it, I could sense its eagerness to return to battle; to relive its own memories."
Zag,,,, really is great at arts n crafts
hot glues sword back together perfectly
Adds duct tape for good measure
oh wow this is cool
when i use than on king theseus he actually shouted king theseus' name
yeah
for malphon i got both the explosive dash upper, and the kick
so it is now an explosive advancing kick, lol
Gosh, Zag's emotional intelligence is next level. Every one of his interactions is an ideal of example of how we all strive to be
So that chest of clothing in Zags room is 100% turning into the place where you can change outfits right?
alt costumes will not be a thing
huh, seems like a missed opportunity there
its not if you know how much work goes into the animations https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/1864993755183591660/#c1864993755185620425
I'm not doubting it takes a lot of work, what I was trying to say was that given that there are number of interactable objects in Zag's room, along with the feature of having optional outfits for the main character is in many other games, it seemed like a teaser for things to come
a lot of the stuff in zags room is also purely cosmetic and doesnt do anything though
cant speak for pyre since i only ever watched vids here and there to get a feel for the gameplay since i wasnt sure about it but i dont think alt costumes has been a feature in a sgg title thus far
yeah, I also never realized that their engine worked that way
I honestly don't really care about alt costumes but they can add a little cheeky fun to the game
But considering how much work that would go into it, i'd much rather have that work spent towards additional gameplay elements
honestly as far as alt outfits go the only thing i think would have been nice and fit with the theme of the game is alternating colour or something based on which ever god zag favours most in a run. like i remember an art from last year of aphrodite favoured zag, whose outfit wasnt just pink but his laurels had flowers iirc and stuff too. but yeah given how their engine works and every single frame of animation is a unique image, its an absolutely ridiculous amount of work
Yeah that's all I had in mind but never imagined it would be that complicated
actually just went and refound said piece of art and threw it in the appropriate channel lmao its pretty good and i do wish we could get smth like that but alas
Over 600 hours in this game and I think this is the first time I've heard the name Gigaros: https://imgur.com/B7MlwDL
I know it's Hades spear but he doesn't seem to like to talk about it much
hades doesn't seem to take much pleasure in fighting overall
well he got work to do
he constantly fights against burocracy
no wonder he’s salty with Olympus they keep sending extra people on his way
especially Zeus: he continues to bang (can i say that?) everyone and then Hera kills them
That's what he means when he says he doesn't have an ounce of self control 👀
Imagine being stuck to an eternity of bureaucracy when your other siblings get to screw around 24/7
but technically zag is still childless
But he screws 😄
That's because, despite what Hades says, Zagreus is responsible.
huh thats a twist right there
Zagreus is uh
Mildly responsible at the present time
He was somewhat irresponsible prior to the game if the flashbacks and some comments from npcs are anything to go about, the narrator calls him on that kn the administrative office flashback i think
He comes across more considerate than responsible imo
Zag is a very considerate individual i’ll give you that
it's true
Whoa whoa whoa, let's not make assumptions about Hades' sex life
Genuinely wonder what would Zag's chirren even look like
smug and probably pretty pale
... You think Zag would ever get asked if he's a vampire
I mean, bloodstones, pale, has... Well not red eyes but a red eye
I would say so if I could picture him doing anything but wanting to go sunbathing every chance he gets.
since that giant firey helios in the sky would probably be a novelty for, oh, a good couple decades and/or centuries
Zagreus realizes that he is not as resistant to fire as he thinks. Comes back sunburnt.
Also Zag constantly squinting because AHGG SO BRIGHT
wait, will apollo get attracted to zagreus?
he still sees him battling hades after all
Probably wouldn't to begin with, but also with how mad Demeter is at him, I doubt Apollo can see anything through all the clouds.
Please spare,,, a crumb of sun,,, Demeter,,,
i just beat the game, so excited to see how it'll wrap up when the game finishes
thank you, it was so hard i almost cried when i saw hades' hp fill back up
oh yeaaah that's so bad the first time
prob gonna take a break from the game until closer to the release date (whenever that is) but the dev team did a really great job with spreading out the story content that i could play every day and still find new stuff
i've had like over 120 runs and there's still stuff and i really like that
tho the next update can't come soon enough i am so excited!!
i think i've done about 30ish runs, the malphon fists are prob my fav weapons
Talos aspect or regular?
they're pretty good!
they just beat the game the first time i don't think they have that
hold on, lemme boot up the game i'm not sure
Did you nyoom enemies towards you with your special
no i think i was using the aspect of zagreus, but the talos one seems pretty fun to use
Yeah probably zagreus then
Either way gratz
Time to spice up your game with the pact of punishment my dude
oh yeah it prompted me about that, where do i go to do that
The exit
You get to choose how you wanna screw yourself before leaving, which makes for fun self-imposed challenges
Plus the pact more or less resets boss rewards for each weapon via the Heat score, so it makes for a fun and balanced way to get stuff
i'm reading some of them now, they all look like surefire ways for me to cry lol
i'll check it out in a bit, thanks for the info
np my dude
i haven't beat the game yet but i just got to hades for the first time
hadn't beat theseus & pal before
and i was like, "wait am i gonna get through styx and win the first time through???" and then i got a sinking feeling as i killed him the first time lol
@faint quiver i def recommend extreme measures, while it makes the bosses tougher, the dialogue, in elysium especially, make them worth it. the first time zag steps in there with extreme measures on is hilarious
thanks!
does leveling up the base aspect of Zagreus on weapons effect other aspects? I wantched my SO play last night with the final aspect of Stygius and i feel like his swings faster then mine
mine only lvl 2 tbf and his is maxed
or does jeleving up aspects in general improve the weapon overall?
as far as I know it shouldn't? maybe on that run you had some Hermes speed boon?
each aspects don't give extra boosts to another aspect of that weapon it's almost like a different weapon if ignoring the fact that they are the same thing... If I understood this right I think..?
yesi have a feeling he probably had a hermes thing he forgot about
¯_(ツ)_/¯
appreciate it
question about the romance options. If I choose one person, does that shut off the option for the others?
I've got than in my room with an option to comfort him or back off. But I really like Meg...
if you mouse over it, I believe that it says somewhere that they arent exclusive
thanks!
np
you can date both without any problem (there's even extra dialogue for it)
literally the only downside to the romance options is that theres no reward to any of the build up if you choose to back off, all the content is for comfort
I feel bad for leading Than on, but I just wanted to get drunk with my buddy, why'd he have to take it like that?
Now things are weird.
Achilles just told me to go to my room and I expected Than to be there but it was just. Empty.
The extreme measures theseus fight is honestly great because it just goes harder into Asterius being the actual threat and Theseus being mostly a joke after Asterius falls
Holding out for a Theseus EM nerf, halve his bomb damage and the fight is perfect.
em?
Extreme Measures
ah
I don't find his bombs to be all that annoying. The only exception is when Asterius decides to spin2win or charge a bunch
he isn't too bad, yeah, but I mean he's much more of a threat than theseus in both versions of the fight
and i normally treat phase 2 thesues as a dps race
i guess
i feel like more of the damage i take is from theseus
he has 2 attacks, and gives you free backstab after one of them
Yeah, so when Asterius spins as his opening move (he shouldn't use it until phase 2) and Theseus starts carpetbombing the perimeter, we have a problem.
i dont know if i saw theseus carpet bomb
i was on the demeter poseidon duo cast boon
and staying far away
just beat bull of minos first try
feeling pretty good
lol and as soon as i say that i die
oh well
PB
So it goes
so it goes
on the one hand as an asterius fan this sentence deeply offends me
I reached Hades with 32 heat for the first time using Zag's sword today!
But then.. I genuinely underestimated how powerful attack/move speed 40%+ Hades would be..
ouch...
Good work! And if you did it once, you can do it again!
oof
Thanks!! I've been trying basic sword aspect (because I'm stubborn) 32 heat for a few days now, but I'm happy I got that far!
Now I know what to expect 😂
question, what happens when you max out a god's favor/hearts thing?
i think im getting fairly close with artemis
I figured a permanent boon rarity increase for that god's boons would've been cool, something like 10%.
Or unique bonuses to boons
“You know nephew, you’re my main 🅱️ now so i’m giving you this fancy boon i never gave to anyone else, not even greece’s greatest heroes.
Don’t tell them i said that if you ever meet them though.” -Poseidon, maybe
Poseidon is a bro
and then he gives you an upgraded version of the fish boon

just got to the surface for the first time, felt really good
only got through one phase of the boss, but i think i was just nervous and that's what got me lol
You'll get there, it gets easier. Easiest weapons to clear with are the shield and the rail, in my experience.
guys ! there is a new scene thanxzag or not ? i saw on twitter a print but i don know if i belive it or not
there's been no new content
either it's something that's been in game already or fan content
anybody knows why can i suddenly gift ambrosia to Artemis ?
because you gave her enough nectar
but it was locked for a long time
what i would like to know is what have i done to unlock it, since normally you need some prerequisites to unlock hearts
I think the way it works is that it's locked until you unlock an unknown number of conversation options with the other gods, and time and/or number of runs may be a factor.
artemis requires seeing all of her dialogue involving callisto
so this is not a spoiler to the game but something i found interesting, but i happened over a reference from an ancient greek geographer by the name of pausanias who mentions the spartans having a cult of sorts based around thanatos and hypnos. doing some skimming through varying literary work and criticisms it seems its debated whether this cult existed, or whether pausanias had mistaken the statues for incorrect gods but
could you just imagine. though realistically i couldnt imagine sgg than doing more than scoffing because mortals are ridiculous sometimes, and hypnos would make a quip about it that makes than feel exasperated lol
hypnos reads all his fan mail
he is more touched than he lets on 🥺
imagine a bunch of misguided mortals paying more attention to you than your brother does
not to be continually biased towards ares (though i am, sorry), but going through his known epithets, this one really matches up to his hades portrayal
Alloprósallos - (alloprosallus; Gr. ἀλλοπρόσαλλος, ΑΛΛΟΠΡΟΣΑΛΛΟΣ. Noun.) leaning first to one side, then to the other. See Iliás (Iliad; Gr. Ἰλιάς) 5.831/889. This is because Áris is not loyal to any particular side, but he is loyal to the struggle and to the souls who are engaged in it.
though this epithet it used more to point out his unreliability more than anything, i think, that he cannot be counted on to stick to one side or another. i also dont think it was intentionally done to tap into this epithet but under its context it makes his dialogue in hades more interesting, as he does seem to be more interested in the struggle zagreus is facing, rather than zagreus or any part of the conflict in general
thanatos scoffs until someone puts flowers for him on his altar
Aye
They may have sanitized some bits but most of what the devs did put in is fairly accurate
i just beat the game, so excited to see how it'll wrap up when the game finishes
@faint quiver Me too, as of several minutes ago.
ares has the right idea though, i mean, opportunities to kill the dead again don't come about often
it's like an infinite source of violence that goes virtually untapped
is there special dialogue or interaction if you go through than showing up without letting him get a single kill?
You get a title "Robbed Thanatos".
...wait, really? xD
that's just mean
when I already know I won't lose my lead I leave some kills to him
Than deserves it for all the low-key yang he slung Zag's way until he learns to breath a little.
yang?
Well, I was gonna say "verbal abuse" but that's a little extreme.
honestly if someone i cared about and worried about a lot stepped into magma cause they were careless if probably call them an idiot too
you know, in a "BE CAREFUL JESUS CHRIST" way
yeah same? i call my friends idiots and stuff all the time
I don't mean that, I mean all the conversations where Than rips into Zag for leaving.
well i felt he didn t get why yk
He isn't entitled to know why.
Than has a different point of view from zag and i think his emotions are justified, as well
if my best friend was leaving without telling me i'd be hurt too
And regardless of his feelings for Zagreus he is vicious.
i didn't understand it that way at all
Frustrated, angry, scared, sure.
especially if said best friend leaving included them dying over and over, and bringing tensions in the workplace up
Than chose to help.
At no point does Zagreus ask for his help and in several instances tells Than to stop because it's getting him in trouble.
he did but that does not mean he isnt allowed to criticise
like, its a kind of "youre doing a very stupid thing i do not agree with but if you wont change your mind ill try to help at least"
His criticisms are largely blaming Zagreus for others' (including his own!!!) actions.
He tells Zag that Hades is breathing down his neck and if Zag would just stop he wouldn't be in trouble.
I don't think Thanatos is a bad person.
And later in his conversations he slows his roll and is more fair to Zagreus.
But it starts out bad.
what im saying is, im not saying what than says is fair and a nice thing to do but seeing where he comes from, who he is, how he feels about stuff? id probably be this salty as well
That's fair.
all the characters have done bad stuff and good stuff, even the "good" ones n thats nice
except Cerberus
makes things a little more grey and makes them feel real
Cerberus never did anything wrong
😔
he's baby
3 x baby
why is there no Cerberus emoji???

counterpoint: cerberus screwed up the lounge
Yeah, I'd maybe pin that a little on Zag, actually.
true
really?
i felt like that "oh you should have been there" was guilt tripping from hades
i mean... both
Hades? Okay, yeah. But I was thinking a little more "When you leave an extremely large and strong dog without its leash it's liable to cause damage."
cerb did wreck the lounge because zag left
AND hades was also guilt tripping
i dont think its a leash thing schpoon
Now, if Hades just sat there thinking "Gonna give the boi SO MUCH crap," while Cerb tore up the lounge, no, that's all on Hades.
cerb seems like an intelligent being, not just a dog
I'd say Cerberus is a very smart dog, but maybe not fully sapient.
cerb doesnt need a leash, he can handle himself fine. unless his close friend just up and leaves
Or sentient?
Sentience is just a complex-enough nervous system, right?
no sapience is thinking
and cerb was intelligent enough to like, give zag a gift in return for the nectar, it really read like cerb knew what he was doing there
when he tucked the collar into zags hand
true
I may or may not have the Wiki articles for both sapience and sentience open right now. 
get that education brah
reminder zag literally tells achilles that its not any of than's business as to why hes leaving, bck when he first leaves lmao
nice
I see where Thanatos is coming from, your best friend leaving sucks.
yeah
It always always always always sucks.
..are you okay
achilles has a good response too, the entire dialogue is both points
i want to hug achilles
Achilles: You saw that Thanatos is back, didn't you, lad? He's been over there brooding, when he's around, at least.
Zagreus: I saw, Achilles. I think he's angry with me because of my decision to leave the House. Not that it's any of his business.
Achilles: Oh, don't say that. It isn't everyday or night when one discovers that his closest friend has had it with his temperamental father and decided to leave home. I think he's struggling with what to make of it. Be gentle with him, will you?
its lik the hum button but its hug
i think too often people fixate on bits of dialogue or interactions without taking the entire thing into account
Okay, but how long should Zagreus "be gentle"? Obviously Zagreus is the most patient character in this game (and probably the most patient any of us know).
well maybe he wasn't always
PLOTTWIST
tbh zag can sometimes be a bit harsh
depending
usually not, obviously
but he can be quite sassy
zagreus can get angry but its usually when he's really had it
"Sassy" is a biiig leap from where Thanatos starts the game.
because zag and than's first reactions at one another are both to lash out. than lashes out at zag for his decision, zag lashes back out at than for not understanding. a running theme in the game is that everyone sucks at communicating. stop expecting gods who sometimes have the emotional temperament of a child to immediately understand why they feel a way
FATHER ITS JUST A BB GUN. FATHER. FATHER CAN WE TALK
im sorry
in all seriousness though
i swear thats right like
looking at all the characters
JUST TALK
especially with Zag and Hades like BIG BOY I KNOW YOURE BITTER AND HEARTBROKEN BUT WITHDRAWING INFORMATION FROM YOUR SON IS GONNA DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU WANT
I disagree with that thematic take.
There are a few characters who do really suck at communicating, but by and large Zagreus is very open with people.
no, zag still has communication issues
if you think he doesnt then you havent been paying attention to his interactions
👏
no one said he isnt open minded
I didn't say open-minded.
i just
youre missing the point
wait
like
I don't think I am.
does zag know any other insects than butterflies
just realized that there are only butterflies in the underworld
no one said he isnt kind. but zag is so fixated on the happiness of others he doesnt often think of the consequences of butting in
poor boy is gonna get stung by a wasp
"Shortsighted" and "communicates well" are not mutually exclusive.
Than and Meg are two examples where Zag could use some help, absolutely.
i would say he didnt really handle orpheus and eurydice well either, and while theres never any genuine negativity and there is a resolution to their arc, eurydice does show to be a bit cross with zag
Zag knows he's the protagonist and thus has carte-blanche to meddle in other characters' lives without consequence.
this is not hate against zag or anyone else, in fact characters with flaws are wholly more interesting than those without but like. zag has his communication issues too
Everyone does, even Nyx and Achilles.
i....dont think its quite like that meta lolol but yeah he has. a lot of issues in both communication and boundaries
mhmhm!
Not Theseus, though. 
Theseus is extremely efficient at telling everyone how he feels.
theseus is the only character in this game who has NEVER done ANYTHING wrong /jk
false
zag is extremely OPEN but open communication is not always GOOD communication i think
fight me
Agreed, false.
I WAS KIDDING
looks at ariadne, hm
he's got his bombs, he's done lots wrong
qhehigwgih
I love Theseus but when he called Zag a demon he WAS GOING DOWN
i mean zag 100% looks like a daemon but
this was a good backread also abt than.... i think than was in a mindset of like 'i am physically helping you. i dont know why you think im being mean just because im making angry rude comments all the time'
its what hades genes will do to you
lol yup
zag wakes up with moustache in the next nightmare scene
god dammit kam i snorted while drinking
:3
while sgg does take their own spin on myth, a general running theme with gods of myth is that. they are fickle and lash out for seemingly no reason, and i think its just kind of pointless to try and psycho analyze why because its probably not meant to be taken that way
also gotta take into account the events of the game are not easy on the characters so there's gonna be some lashing out and not exactly optimal behavior
yeah
yeah i dont think anyones a bad person but its good to have discussions to, yknow, lightly roast them all from time to time
it just makes for a nuanced vision of the characters i think!
Demeter, I think, is a bad person.
nyeeeeehhhhh debatable
debatable but i agree
ahhh yeah i was thinking more in the 'zag+than+cerberus' as the names . i saw in the backread
def not a good person but a straight up bad person
but i agree w you abt demeter
she had a lot of stuff happen to her
Her past treatment of Persephone is kinda damning.
its debatable but oooffff yeah
"bad" within the context of the game's events is subjective honestly because of the different viewpoints
what... was her past treatment of perse?
what are we talking about i too want to talk trash about the gods
she's also extremely overbearing, threatening to other people, and deadnames her daughter
demeter roast hours
We don't get a lot of it, but she only refers to her as "Kore" for one.
maybe i didnt get enough convos with her but all i know about that is vague
ice ice babey
I mean I understood it as Deme only recently learned that Kore isnt the way to go
but yeah
Before Zag was born, at least.
from a writing perspective i love her, though, she's scary in a good way
its a different take on demeter you dont really see much and i do like it, its interesting
i am rly wondering if the situation is going to turned into "hades is helping persephone stay away from demeter, who is helping zag stay away from hades"
which i think is fascinating
ironic
Honestly in terms of Demeter
the "Only cold remains" line she has
really hurt
don't think it did, don't think Hades would be so salty about everything Persephone related if he was indeed helping her
cant remember the whole thing but i know i was like 😦
he even almost gave Zag an emotional message to her but then backpedaled to telling her cerberus is doing a-ok
which, while a very important piece of info, don't think was the original message
you know what is serious gourmet stuff though
idk i think his extreme prickliness over persephone points to him actively hiding her but of course that is just wild conjecture
when i say hiding her i think its in a magic way, like, making it so that she cant be found. but he doesnt know where she is either
o?
demeter becoming less cold and happier and more motherly as she becomes closer to zag
WH...I DONT KNOW IF I WANT TO EAT SKELLY JELLY
wait she does?
or at least i feel she does
its cute but i dont trust like that artie 😔 im worried for a zag whos too close w her
i never gave any of the gods more than one nectar ||except for artemis|| so i don't really know
might give some to poseidon too
I like demeter I want to see if there are things in there that can be saved 😔
awwww ;w;
She becomes a little more familiar with Zagreus, but I maintain that's because she doesn't know he's her grandson.
shes one of my fave gods in the game ngl
i cannot wait for everybody to find out zags real goal . and get angry
she's cool
the DRAMA
ba dum tss
don't think she'd ever switch to her spring self in the game proper, that'd likely require reworking her boons or some way around them
Zag: So let's see. Demeter's daughter went missing. She wound up down here. I... happened. Mother left. Demeter, and everyone else on Olympus apparently, has no idea. That about right? Tell me what happened.
Hades: I'll tell you nothing! Keep meddling in matters that you cannot understand, and you'll incur the wrath of Olympus on all that you hold dear. And, know that it is not for my sake that I'm warning you.
i remember really just
at the "you'll incur the wrath of olympus" line when i got it
getting killed by aphrodite sounds like a good death. im in
"on all that you hold dear" "not for my sake"
i think hes talking abt perse [conspiriacy board]
huh
maybe he did smuggle her initially
i think he's talking about the whole house
i think hes talking about zag? or at least i thought
I don't remember that.
you know who i feel really bad about, once they discover zag's real goal? artemis
hgvhjfvhjfvhj oh no its time to close my spoilr eyes i didnt know that...
oh turns out that new friend you made didnt want to get out to meet you after all!
also hades initially hiding persephone could be the conflict between zeus and hades that is alluded a couple times in the game
zeus did know about everything regarding persephone's kidnapping in the original myth after all

i also dont remember a mention of nyx doing that but i could have missed it if its there
also many other olympians 😔
sadly no screenshot rn tho
also i got the convo pretty late
like i'm talking all other plots over late
as of now
which of the olympians did you guys get attached to, if any?
Artemis.
[me furiously skimming over thousands of screenshots]
so basically
hades initially decides to hide persephone
ice grandma finds out, gets angry like in the original myth (hell, she may have percieved it as a kidnapping) and contacts zeus like in the original
zeus gets in contact with hades to tell him to return her
can't really force him because hades is sorvereign of his own kingdom and zeus has not that much of an authority over him
this causes a conflict between him and hades, causing even more bad blood
maybe persephone leaves to stop the conflict and hades thinks she abandoned him?
HMMM....
cause i kinda really got attched to artemis and in a lesser degree aphro, athena, hermes, dio and demeter
Dionysus is probably pretty cool.
||no demeter doesnt know||
Oh, crap, of course Hermes.
hermes all the wqy
everyone that has seen me talk enough here knows which olympian is my bias, i dont have to say anything
who ares u talking abt...
:>
ares you hiding somethin from us
also i'm starting to like poseidon a lot
he's my sea dude
I don't actually know to whom you're referring.
poseidon is fun
ares (are-s)
i wish i liked poseidons boons more
I thought Poseidon was alright until the Long Winter updated all of his Duo boons dialogues.
i think im gonna get attached to him once he gets more dialogue, im kinda on fence w him
also duwang about demeter
me
i think hes great characterwise
huh
yep
there goes my crack theory i guess
F
its like i like him but i wouldnt invite him to my wedding yk
f
my theory so far: persephone was pregnant with zagreus, fled, zag died
.
thats why hades is pissed bc she left him bc of their kid
can't be, Hades was explicitly there when Zagreus was born
could have been a joke tho
he even got his forearms burnt when he was born
i read that as a joke
we can only crazy speculate
could have been smth zag made up
until summer comes
yeah could be a joke too
or well full release to be exact
summer wont be the last update
but i just find it funny
"Hey boss there's a baby floating in the blood pool" -Hypnos
boss...baby
no don't
ah shot, now I think Zagreus as a boss baby.
agsgdgf
question: do the skull waves and bottle pools in the hades fight count as traps?
just purely based on the fact they said none of the characters are done right now in terms of content, i see like 2-3 updates before we hit full launch. my guess
why you had to type that out to curse us?
@gray jetty pools do
Bottle pools do, not sure about skull waves.
please tell me that means dusa gf shoukai
dont know about waves
pls
I don't think so.
i need it
bro
bra
i doubt they are gonna backtrack on dusa and make her non-platonic
mate
leave her aro ass alone
:butt:
isn't she less aro and more "i'm not interested in a relationship right now"
nope
i didnt get there yet, cant say
no she explicitly tells zag she loves him, just not romantically
i gave her the last ambrosia and she hasnt said anything more yet
bor
bor
BOAAAR
TYPO IN THE GROUP CHAT
dimitri?
F me
f achilles
its through her interaction with zag that she figures out she does have strong feelings, and that there are different forms of love. its just not the same kind of love meg and than have
Brotherhood and Sisterhood, we have come to conclusion.
his ankles and hands were his weakness
Hey, after I friendzoned Than it was only fair that it happened back to me.
"karma time" -the fates
im lowkey happy i got this part spoiled because i didnt decline either
i love than
im still miffed the game expects you to romance meg and than though lmao. and i say that as someone who did for laughs, but there really is no content to backing off.
if i didnt know i can romance both i would be screwed
i will romance neither out of spite
tbh i didn't romance meg bc i didn't feel like it
same
thats fair
i don't really feel like romancing either of the two
i just fell in love with both
valid
HE HE HE
Well, I think romancing them is required to get the, uh, post scenes.
shame on you this is where you're supposed to drop the banter
for aphrodite too
Than never has a heart above his head in the House, but Meg sometimes does.
you have to do at least one of them and dusa to unlock aphrodite
is it though? i didnt have dusa that high up and aphro unlocked her heart to me
Honestly I romanced Meg just because. Than because my friend was stanning Than so much so my hands were tied to do it.
Okay, here's the real question: Who inspires more thirst, Zagreus or Cloud?
but what im saying is that if you romance them you get additional scenes, if you back off its just 'oh okay see you' and thats it. nothing. no additional dialogue to reflect the choice or anything. thats the part i find disappointing
i am not getting anywhere near close to aphrodite even if they add the ability to romance her
i've studied enough greek to know that literally never ends well thank you very much
may have been from the amount of I LOVE YOU i yelled at aphro a few times
I have Than at one Ambrosia away from finding him in my room, and he can stay that way.
I do wish we could get BOND FORGED with any of the three "romanceable" characters without having to commit to that.
im talking about dialogue with meg and than.
I kinda hoped once I'd made it with meg we'd occasionally hook up, but I guess that was a onetime thing
i love the strange way that those heart over head intermission scenes are distributed bc it really feels like...rumor and superstition
i genuinely forgot they were gonna appear in my room.
to put my reaction into theseus words
I WAS SMITTEN
@gray jetty You do.
Theseus is a shouty man
i have seen one person, ever, say they got a than intermission post-romance
i have never seen a single one
theseus deserves to be thrown into a pack of flamewheels
Every so often Meg will have a heart over her head and if you talk to her she drags you to your bedroom.
Well by calculations I can say uh about at first you see a certain pattern for Zagreus, of 2.1 then it drops to 2 and then we have Cloud. spoiler for FF7 remake ||Who possibly will have his 3 point bar go down to 2 or even less.||
what do you mean than intermission?
theyre about as rare as chaos fishing spots apparently
@thorny surge Nooo, they would make him their King
i personally have seen one (1) meg one
answer i need to know
@gray jetty where do you think he got the chariot from
You know how, when you romance Meg, the screen cuts to black and we hear Megaera giggling?
oh yeah I had that too
that, with than, is rare?
Apparently!
if you have fully forged bond that can happen more than once
meg and than both have intermission scenes
I thought everyone gets it?
It's not super common with Meg.
you can get extra ones?
i thought the romance scenes have to happen?
intermission scenes in general may as well be as rare as a unicorn sighting
oh
one day...one day he will ask zag to spend some time with him again
extra ones?
i want game night
where to date them doe
why would you want to turn them into fruit laddies
i mean there were technically a few dates
another drunk talk in the lounge? 
i want eeeeeeeverybody crammed around zags table playing dungeons and cthagons
or whatever that was, I forgot myself.
CTHAGONS
me: hm i think ive done everything i wanted to do in hades no need to keep playing for now
wouldnt it be chthagons
you guys: you can get more intermission scenes
not dungeons and hydras
me: firing up the game
shame on you
dungeons and lernie
lernie and chill
yes
DO NOT ROMANCE LERNIE
who is talking about romancing lernie what
the true version of the DnD in Hades setting
XD

.
wait romancing lernie??
nO
rhino please keep it clean in here.
Kam, can I get that reaction image as a reaction on this line?
Yes. 
when sad
we can already romance meg it only makes sense that we'd be able to romance the next stage's boss
but meg is a member of the household
romance the cook
nothing's stopping us from welcoming the hydra now isn't it
romance aster pls
we just need a big enough lava pool
Zag kinda-sorta-not-really tried.

break up with the broker
it fleeces you even harder now
i want to give Chaos all the love in my heart and then some
honestly if u could give me a genuine fic or comic etc where lernie is like....genuinely charmed by and into zag? i would love to live in that world
one of these days . im going to crack n write zagskelly fic for real no irony or jokes. he grows on me
yessss
do it
zag rides back into the house on lernie's head. sup, father
I was thinking more like an even larger and more destructive dog than Cerberus. 
.... Zagreus the hydra rider
in more ways than one i assume
DUWANG.
no
not here

hey we're talking about romancing lernie now aren't we

this is a family friendly chat man
time to exit the convo on a spinny death blade
Speaking of spinnys
talking about murder and stuff is a ok
ive gone into the habit of calling zeus aspect shield roomba
AHSHFJFJG
speaking of- ninja'd i guess
you guys think we'll ever get an ares aspect?
shoomba
nope
as a 4th aspect, nah
ZEUMBA
now all i see is zeus doing zumba
aaaaaaaaaa
no more god aspects i'm guessing
oh no, i mean if we ever get a new infernal arm
zeus in a jumpsuit
no more infernal arms but i heard we might get a new infernal leg
that would be post 1.0, if they wanted to make a new one. but theres no current plans for one
infernal leg
(kidding)
AGSHDHFJF
doesnt zag already have infernal legs
no he's got infernal feet
hey there's always room for more underworld renovations ™️ so we can fit in more malevolent cursed weaponry
@runic terrace okay bear with me but you saying that reminded me that i saw a vid on twt last week (that i regrettably did not save) where some people formed the parts of exodia on a zoom call
i doubt it
ghjngfjhgfhj
also i might be late to realise
but theres a painting you can get
and i think its persephone
i feel like some of you mention theseus just to see if i react bc i usually dont see him come up too much up until recently lmao
"ah damn we lost ѕнσυкαι in the crowd"
"wait i got this"
"THESEUS IS AN ASS!"
"WHATDID YOU JUST SAY"
"There they are"
cue a theseus themed navy copypasta
NOOO
okay im just gonna be that person, i was having a godawful day yesterday and then remembered all of the lines theseus has when his chariot gets destroyed, and how genuinely mournful he sounds in some of them and its so funny and i instantly felt better. if i were ever uncertain about where he stood in my favs list, i am no longer uncertain
theseus is a himbo
Theseus is the most entertaining character in the game.
wait you can make him sad by destroying his chariot?
i should take extreme measures more often then
theseus is SO funny
a himbo and a furry
hes hammy and ridiculous and not meant to be taken seriously
i mean it's a self-driving chariot with guns so i'd understand him being sad about it
but still worth the extra hassle just to make him sad
Noo! What depths you stoop to, fiend! also every time hes just like AGAIN!? luv it
MY CHARIOT
Zag and Theseus saying "AGAIN!?" in unison.
Again you did this to me?! How many times...! man's line delivery is on point
Okay, but what if you made truly powered armor and gave it to Asterius as a superboss?
Yes, with EM 3 Asterius is buffed in his miniboss fight.
nice
he likes to open the fight with the spin there, too
me
not really but i am directly responsible for the idea and i thus desire to witness it
i unfortunately already had to witness it
I'll take a peek.
enjoy your curse yall
#blessed
survive it 2 more times and you'll get + 1 bloodstone
Chaos trapped my cast and made me do the party barge with un-booned Attack/Special. 8 |
F
lol
F
party barge
just wallslam everything
lost a DD but I made it. last wave was like six elites and two blue crystal things
oof
the selection of chaos shield lines is already incredible but i think we could use even MORE curse lines. "which way?" when ur under enshrouded. "wow thats so much coin" when you pick up coin under pauper's
aaaaaa
Is dio holding a bow + wearing a fur cloak?
Who's the hunter now, artemis? 
ugh i still have two enc to go with this crap
what a weird scepter
you also have middle management on so it also gets owoified
the leopard is one of his symbols iirc
thats why he fur
here's a fun trick with epic Drift Dash and Talos, dash into lava, pull mobs into lava, dash out of lava.
omg twelve elites shielding each other on the really small asphodel map. >.<
thats why he fur
dio's a furry?
i knew there was something weird about him
what would his fursona be
Real dyonisus is often depicted wearing a leopard fur and having a "Thyrsus" staff . its a nice attention to detail on SGG side
i mean the gods did turn into animals to escape typhon, and zeus is well recorded to turning into animals in his uh. attempts at zeusnanigans, its pretty funny to ask in general why a god is a furry
if you carry an olympian boon into styx does it do anything?
the keepsakes? i assume that at least one of the chambers will be of that god (and of course, the rarity increase works as well)
150 completed runs and i've just fished a seamare for the first time lol
and still have yet to see a fishing spot in chaos
ugh, Demeter blessed me with Ice Wine 7 runs in a row, then abandoned me for possibly the worst 3 runs I've ever had, the last of which I went to face hades with just trippy shot. Ooh, borderlands 3 is on sale...
ice wine giveth and ice wine taketh
good thing is that whenever demeter abandons you, there's always scintillating feast...
demeter AND zeus abandoned me that last run, AND I had like 4 Dio boons and 4 rerolls. nothing. :grump:
wow, that's extremely unlucky
whenever demeter abandons me, uncle zeus always has my back at least
question, is getting Dark Thirst on a weapon just random? or is it part of the story
i walked out and the spear had it
random, gets put on a weapon you haven't used recently
ah ic
but what if you're full of ice wine and not thirsty?
for ice wine we're always thirsty
I knew I smelled the talk of ice wine
I pop in and now, I have to ask: list off what each Olympian and/or Chthonic god would wield in battle if Zagreus had to fight them?
Like, besides the 4 Aspects that are used by the 1st gen Olympians?
Generally visible AFAIK in the popup, for example Zeus has the lightning bolt.
I think she's usually not one for fighting, powerful yes but i think she usually just uses her beauty to weaken (nudge nudge) the enemy or escape
All of this to say idk, a bow? Cupid Eros' bow?
gestures at aphrodite areia
none of the game gods are referred to as any epithet but they're still there to draw inspiration from
I'm just pointing out there is indeed a war version of aphrodite lmao
lemme jump to osp to remember all the versions...
I think modern pop culture has ingrained everyone too heavily with the idea aphrodite is some embodiment of love and things associated with such, we forget aphrodite was. much much more than that lmao
yes, the DIvine Shipper
Ok so probably not Urania bc she's too flirty, explicit (she's naked, nothing wrong with that of course but urania was more pure) and just... plain sexy
drop dead sexy
and she has connections to Mary
wait, im curious, can the gods change their aspect?
I'm torn between pandemos and hellenized aphrodite: this last version is like pandemos but with maternity and political power as a plus
For the ones that i'm referencing it's just how aphro was represented in history, check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIUq0pfAskU&list=PLDb22nlVXGgeoPb-HBWwzEeoAwDvckSrC&index=40
Okay, so maybe Dionysus was a little more complicated than we expected. But APHRODITE? REALLY?? All she does is set up cute couples and throw temper tantrums! How complicated can SHE be?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)
V E R Y
Quick edit! Saw some comments cranky I didn't mention ...
I follow their channel and i would assume they know what they're talking about but of course i'm absolutely not an expert in greek mythology, i just so happen to watch this channel and at least know there were different versions of aphrodite during the course of time
JESUS I MEANT NOT
NOT AN EXPERT SORRY OMG
embarassing
because they've studied this content further than looking up a wiki?
also off topic but right now i'm searching what gods aspects actually are and i found this cool pottery vessel of aphrodite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_religion#/media/File:Atuell_en_forma_d'Afrodita_en_una_petxina,_Àtica,_necròpolis_de_Fanagoria,_pinínsula_de_Taman._Primer_quart_del_segle_IV_aC,_ceràmica.JPG just thought i'd share todefusewhateverdiscussionmaybestartingnow
... wait
are you sure this is aphrodite?
ok i did it if you click on the link it shows the real thing i'm talking about
one of them literally graduated with a degree in classics, like they're not just people looking up stuff here and there on the internet and putting it in a video. that's why they have a following lmao
that's why they get linked sometimes
ik, was just noting how everywhere i go someone have watched them
take them as you would wikipedia. wikipedia is a reference point
rational
ok i did it if you click on the link it shows the real thing i'm talking about
@cloud geode doneee
I finally got the Dusa talk and awww shes so cute
And Zag took that so well
Bebys
didst thou taketh or giveth
Didnt get that one yet
Never noticed this, are these butterflies? https://i.imgur.com/ED9OeAB.png
Might be the meg ones since they're blue
then perhaps tis and alecto really do turn into butterflies when they die
i think they all turn into different stuff
And since butterflies are supposed to be souls does that mean those are dead people just vibin'?
tbh i don't know what the butterfly soul sucking thing is about
@dusk acorn in greek myths butterflies represent souls, that's why Psyche the goddess of the soul (specifically soulmates iirc) is represented with butterfly wings and why the soul catchers are spheres clumped with butterflies
i'm already afraid of jellyfishes when i go swimming, imagine being on the beach, swimming quietly by yourself and you're having fun and the thIS THING APPEARS
even scarier than that thing appearing is realizing youve been swimming in chaos ocean the whole time
See all im seeing is, you can take a swim in Chaos

breathe, too
That's a lot of action for one primordial being
Honestly though the starry water looks both inviting and scary
flexibility is something Chaos has in abundance
Pool party at Chaos' place, I'll bring a floatie
(chaos dips their hands in the water and holds out some starry goo) swimming pool for you, son of hades
"Oh boy, here I go swimming again!"
Zagreus floating in the middle of the chaos ocean
Huh this is much better than trying to swim in the underworld rivers
[shark fin visible in the water]
ah. here it is. the frickening.
hgfvhjfhjfj
Chaos: are you having fun son of hades
Zag, wrestling a starry shark: OH YEAH I LOVE IT
"And thus, young Zagreus was brought back to the house of Hades"
Chaos jellyfish:
- you get stung by that and youll have weird visions for a while. You'll also be cursed for years
- Zag once found one flopped on the marble and helped it back in the water
btw medusa in italian means jellyfish
^^
jelly dusa.....
uuh i don't know what to think about it thanks for the cursed i guess
it sounds cute to me.... ;w;
bouncy translucent dusa bouncing around the house
yeah!!!
yeah i was just... intrigued in a strange way... after the shock of something like this existing in my mind it's actually blessed ^^
but she must be careful not to get jelly everywhere when she cleans... wait
MAYBE THAT'S WHY SHE ALWAYS CLEANS
you liek being stung by jellyfish?
Haven't had the luck for that lmao
My mom did tho
Nah i just, love jellyfish. They're pretty transparent sometimes glowy sometimes immortal fellows
They don't even have a brain they just vibe
well, seeing it that way jellyfish is pretty cool
Cute plastic bags
until you get hit by one
i like jellyfishes for the look and in general but i'm legit terrified of going in the sea and getting stung
Jellusa
the same with crabs i have sea shoes just so i can swim without the constant fear when it hits me
i dont even swim in the seas because poseidon is probably a mutated monstrosity by now
i got stung by a bee when i was litlle and HOLY CRAP IT HURT
I miss the sea
oh you need to see the sea at my place
Alola form poseidon, poison water type (ok but in all seriousness if the sea near you are that dirty i'm sorry and yeah it's depressing how water could be muche clearer)
literally gray/black sea
I live very very far from any sort of a sea
desert inhabitant?
I dont even miss it so much forblike swimming in it but just,,,,,, its like. The atmosphere and. The vibes
The vibes are different, the air is different
Oh no not a desert. Think forests mountains
also to get in topic a bit would poseidon eat the people who drown in ancient seas?
WHY
Don’t think he would
Fishes will take care of that
i have the adriatic but i noticed sea in south italy is clearer and better
and will their soul turn into hellfish?
he doesnt like dead ppl he said so 
Sea monsters deffo would but not poseidon
said he thinks theyre gross
Brb gotta get home its starting to get chilly

🥰
wait, a problem: do you think sea gods rule different places or they all rule one place and they pull shifts
also bye
Greek gods were not anthropophages, the only few mentions of anthropophagy in myths are generally used to show how monstruous/evil someone/something is
good better not getting cold in times like this
im starting to think the frost in Hades is real
His son polyphemus did eat people though
is it cannibalism though? Cannibalism is eating your same species not humans in general
No, if a god or monster ate you it would not be cannibalism
That’s why said anthropophagy, which is just eating humans
oof i forgot then you're right
is that a real word or did you put the anthropology and phage together
but i wonder if gods could be cannibals or eat humans and that's why when not gods did that it was considered wrong?
yes its a real word
... it is and if such were the case i’d rather put the root anthro- and another word and not an entire word like anthropology
It comes from the greek anthros - anthropos, which means human
Amusingly enough the word for cave is very similar to it, but i’m not sure if they share a common root or not
Phage means “eats x” but yes you’re right
the word literally means eats humans ethymologically speaking
I think to devour would be phago? My greek is a wee rusty so i could be completely wrong mind you
... so why is carnivorous not meatophage
lul
all my greek knowledge come from random etymology searches
i just know some words, the simple ones
Different words have different roots, a lot of words come from latin and greek altogether in a lot of languages
That’s why english is sometimes called three languages in a trenchcoat, english borrows a lot from different languages in several aspects
Yeah
Etymology runs are pretty neat
not three, more like 10
just finished all the prophecies xD which one has taken y'all longest so far? mine was chaos'
still havent done arti and dio
I dont have the whole thing done yet
main reason: hate of cast
Heresy
well, i would be considered heretic by most religions
i follow the Mother worship in Vietnam, you see
Honestly i would have done artemis sooner cause shes my favourite but i had bad luck for Fully Loaded
it took me like forever to get all the legendaries
I still dont have some
which ones
?


