#h1-story-discussion

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olive sentinel
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Is there a current place that has known bugs posted? I had to scroll waaaaaay up to notice Greg posting about the bug with Aphrodite.

open berry
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not to my knowledge but its mentioned in steam forum as well

bold niche
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that datamined stuff and the post about the bug gave a little hope.. shame this topic can't be further discussed probably

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maybe it can be pinned? since people ask about Aphro every day

open berry
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kinda wish we didnt have to wait til june for that to get fixed. as such i've pretty much stopped playing for the time being. general burn out + without doing a bunch of runs and adding to my burn out i cant tell whether i've been affected by the bug or not, so i may as well just not bother til it gets fixed.

hollow mortar
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It has been done yikes

burnt harbor
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It is done

fickle flax
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Hey what is that so i know if dont have it

hollow mortar
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You can check pins by clicking on the "Pinned Messages" at the top. It's the most recent one from Greg

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"Hey, there is a bug in the live branch preventing some players from unlocking Aphrodite's affinity gauge. It will be fixed in our next update slated for June. We apologize for the inconvenience."

fickle flax
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Yeah but i mean would i know if i can’t unlock it or have i just not progressed far enough?

hollow mortar
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Try maxing out her hearts all you can first. If you can't progress any further after following the conditions, it means you are prevented from unlocking the affinity gauge unfortunately

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Still, it wouldn't hurt to progress all you can until it's fixed unless you want to watch all her interactions progressively

olive sentinel
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Think I finally got the Chaos/Nyx storyline going

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her not being there like half the time id run through th house slowed it down

earnest phoenix
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Im trying to get orpheus and eurydice's one but currently stuck

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still no more advancement after 5+ runs

cinder saffron
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Same for me homie

junior field
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you need some lines from Nyx, so it might be stuck in the queue if she still gives you new lines

undone reef
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Anyway, it is not like maxing out interaction gives a new boon, ability or anything

junior field
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yet

dusk acorn
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am amused that hypnos keepsake is possibly the most commonly used keepsake

junior field
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which one's that?

eternal breach
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Cthonic coinpurse

dusk acorn
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the MOAR MONEY

junior field
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oh, right

dusk acorn
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he just hands you money

undone reef
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Oh? I assumed it was the broken spear or the acorn?

dusk acorn
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which like basically everyone uses at the start of a run it seems because more money

eternal breach
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Everyone: here zag have this useless thing
Hypnos: here have money and buy some clothes that cover both of your nips

dusk acorn
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tbf at the end of the run 90% of the time I use the broken spearpoint :p

eternal breach
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Im talking useless as in

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I mean its a broken spearpoint

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What would you do if you were handed that

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Like stuff like pendant or bracer you can wear

dusk acorn
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idk it's magic

eternal breach
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(and its honestly cute to imagine zag wearing the keepsakes)

dusk acorn
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posiedon just gives you the MAGIC CONCH

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chaos gives you e g g

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πŸ₯š

eternal breach
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im just wondering how big the egg is

cloud geode
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omg i just thought about zag wearing the black shawl like a mantle and going NYOOOM and pretending to fly like a child

eternal breach
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Zag knows the egg isnt going to hatch. Does that stop him from hugging it to warm it up and speaking to it? Nope

cloud geode
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I hc it's not enormous but like... easter chocolate egg size. Maybe smaller but not normal egg sized

eternal breach
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Zag watching the swirling galaxies and stars in the egg

dusk acorn
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nah you're supposed to eat it

cloud geode
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So yeah definetly hug sized

eternal breach
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NO

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DONT EAT THE COSMIC EGG

dusk acorn
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eat the cosmic egg

eternal breach
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NO

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HEATHEN

cloud geode
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Is there something inside? Like a cosmic duckling? What if Chaos' companion is a duCK OMG IMAGINE

eternal breach
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AWWWW

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@ supergiant

cloud geode
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I'm having homestuck flashbacks with the cosmic frog which is actually the universe

eternal breach
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Does zag even have the hole in his ear needed to wear the skull earring

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Proper most probable solution: its clip on or he has it in his pocket or sumn

But also
Zag: oh i cant wear this i dont have the-
Meg, pulling out a knife: GET OVER HERE

cloud geode
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BAHAHAH that's why she gave him that

eternal breach
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LOoOK BUT ZAG WITH EARRINGS

cloud geode
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also the old spiked collar DOES THAT MEAN HE WEARS IT AS A CHOKER YES PLEASE-

eternal breach
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HAHDH

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YES

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I mean people said its big so he wears it like a belt but THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER

dusk acorn
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i mean probably when fade to black with meg you just hear whips in the background

cloud geode
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0-0 oh damn i didn't mean like that...

eternal breach
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I know dw

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I'm just messing around

cloud geode
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yeah i know πŸ˜‚ just sayin'

eternal breach
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I do love the thought of him wearing it like a choker just

cloud geode
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What is this emoji anyway

eternal breach
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"Prepare to die FIEND- what are you wearing. Is that. Is that a dog collar."

cloud geode
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OOOOOF

eternal breach
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I like the thought of Zag wearing the adamant arrowhead like a pendant

dusk acorn
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nah you just strap it to your weapon

eternal breach
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And i call this

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The double arrow

dusk acorn
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dionysus gives an overflowing cup that zag probably chugs

lone hamlet
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w-what about the Ares vial

cloud geode
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gLuG

eternal breach
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NO

cloud geode
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lip smack aaah

lone hamlet
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all yall goodbye

eternal breach
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KEEPSAKES ARE NOT FOR CONSUMPTION

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What are you gonna do next cronch up the eternal rose

cloud geode
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Eh he can refill it anyway-

eternal breach
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zag glug blood vial like a jagermeister shot

lone hamlet
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ok but imagine,,,, Zag putting the eternal rose in his hair

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like on his wreath

eternal breach
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YES

cloud geode
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Cutie pie

eternal breach
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I wonder how his wreath works since it seems to be like, on fire

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Is it a part of him

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Or is it just an accessory

lone hamlet
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ok but imagine Zag carrying the egg in like,,, a darn baby sling

cloud geode
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Alright we discussed: Cerberus, Nyx, Chaos, Meg, Artemis, Dio, Ares and Afro, who's next?

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D'aww

eternal breach
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Baby sling has 'a bundle of joy' on it

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Owl pendant

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Its just adorable

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Zag plays with it when lost in thought

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Thunder signet gives him zaps every now and then

cloud geode
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I want that honestly, i collect owls so if sgg made keepsake merch i would buy it

eternal breach
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And Zeus boons in general make Zag generate much nore static ekectricity

lone hamlet
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what about the Pierced butterly?

eternal breach
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Pinned on his robe

junior field
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an egg is super tiny

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consider that he can carry infinite amounts of keys, gems, nectars, gold etc.

eternal breach
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Thats why you put it in the coinpurse

spiral pond
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he just pull it out of his doraemon pocket

eternal breach
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Solution: zag carries a lil bag around

dusk acorn
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he has a coin purse with him at all times

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hypnos coin purse is like a tiny coin purse inside his bigger coin purse

spiral pond
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purseception

vapid parcel
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he just stuffs it into his clothes

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i like the image that he just jingles suspiciously with every step sdfghj

eternal breach
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Zag drops coins when he gets hit like Sonic and rings

dusk acorn
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zag with heroic greater haste, max dodges, and zagreus aspect sword: YOU'RE TOO SLOW

eternal breach
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Asterius slams into Zag

jagged goblet
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FML getting the legendary chaos boon only for it to be based on 'attack' when i am using strong attack boons...

dusk acorn
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there's a legendary attack thing what

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i thought there was just the death defiance

eternal breach
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The curse

jagged goblet
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Death Defiance it is

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but its attached to -5hp on attack

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when I got shield on with deflect and stuff

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dunno if i should take it and challenge myself

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or just go easy mode and hope i get it next time

eternal breach
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What biome are you in?

jagged goblet
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cuz it's still a prophecy for me

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tart

eternal breach
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You can live in tartarus

jagged goblet
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yea but near the end QQ

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triple threat

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bahhhh

cloud geode
eternal breach
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Oh doop

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NO

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THAT WOULD STRESS ME OUT SM

jagged goblet
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rofl

eternal breach
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I already feel horrible when i let zag die xD

cloud geode
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Or when the timer runs out lmaoo

eternal breach
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I M NIT EVEN GOING NEAR THAT

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Does Zag actually comment on the timer in any way

cloud geode
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WHAT WAS NINTENDO THINKING THIS BRINGS BACK THE ANXIETY I HAD WHEN I WAS LITTLE WHY

eternal breach
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Since he does kinda work as the warning system in the game ahdjf

cloud geode
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I don't know... just so you know i'm never going to touch that demonic thing in my settings are you kidding

eternal breach
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Godddd

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I lowkey want to try it but im gonna regret it SM

cloud geode
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Timer: wanna have more of a challenge kiddo?

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me: alastor voice HAH

eternal breach
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My anxiety: pulls out a baseball bat

cloud geode
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no.

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hiisss

junior field
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@eternal breach he does comment on it

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at 30 seconds and 0

cloud geode
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i think it doesn't even do anything if you run out of time it's just there because OF COURSE an hoard of monster wanting to slap your cheeks isn't enough right?

eternal breach
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Doesnt it murder you

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Slowly

cloud geode
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or does the run end

junior field
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it does

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you start taking damage every second after it runs out

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so you could still push through the boss, use your HP and defiances

eternal breach
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Asterius, looking at the god that is coughing on the floor in a puddle of blood out of nowhere: uh

junior field
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cause the timer stops after you defeat the boss

cloud geode
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oh alright thanks now i have even more of a reason to stay away from that

junior field
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the opponents seem to be acutely aware of changes to the pact

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furies comment on a variety of pacts

eternal breach
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I dont put EM on because i dont wanna upset meg

junior field
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but spanking her sisters is what cheers her up

eternal breach
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I took em off and she thanked me

junior field
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so really, you're just robbing her of some fun

eternal breach
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I want meg to be happy damn iT

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But honestly me on deadline would be

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Zag: im running out of time
Me: slaps laptop closed slides it off the table

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How much time do you even have, 9 minutes per region?

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If you beat a boss does it start over

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Or can you save some time and have it carry over

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Because beating elysium in that time sounds brutal

last leaf
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sounds basically like a dps check for elysium

vapid parcel
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i managed to do it, somehow??? it was really stressful tho elysium was Horror ℒ️

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usually you get to the boss with like four minutes to spare if you hurry

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elysium was like two

eternal breach
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I would CRY

lone hamlet
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also y'all I did some Guan Yu earlier... had a great run until final boss time

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final boss absolutely rekt me shadegrief

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idk why but I can't seem to beat final boss with anything but the shield shadegrief

last leaf
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I find gun super easy

lone hamlet
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gun is the hardest for me ironically πŸ˜‚

eternal breach
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Spear is the hardest for me

last leaf
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I barely comprehend bow

vapid parcel
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bow and gun wreck me

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i literally had to stop a run

last leaf
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standing still is just so anathema to how I think about the game

vapid parcel
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mood

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dash all the way

eternal breach
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I'm gun>bow>mittens>shield=sord>spear

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Ironically i beat the game first 2 times with the shield

last leaf
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i'm also a baddie tho

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still at heat 2

vapid parcel
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shield>sword>spear>fists>gun>bow

last leaf
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really dreading trying to get a heat 0 kill with bow

eternal breach
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I just love kiting people

last leaf
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it just sounds like such a drag

eternal breach
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I love the bow tbh

vapid parcel
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my sister did it for me the first time

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then i beat it on one and two heat on my own

eternal breach
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i wish i could be better with varatha but we just dont understand each other

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I did get a clear w it though

vapid parcel
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i just love the zeus aspect of the shield

eternal breach
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Im not too good w it ahfjg

vapid parcel
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passive damage for the win

eternal breach
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I love Eris gun

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You just absorb the nuclear apocalypse into your own body and laugh like a madman

last leaf
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spear is all about doom builds for me

vapid parcel
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i am not good with the gun, or how, mostly bc i prefer close quarters

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it's why i never use the spear special

lone hamlet
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the shield is fun for beginners

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I kept losing my first runs and my friend told me to try the shield

vapid parcel
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wrow, called out sdfghjkl

last leaf
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so for eris you have to be in the blast radius?

eternal breach
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My problem is that i lose my ability to think the second i get to melee range

vapid parcel
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see, the good thing is, i never think

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that can't happen to me

eternal breach
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Me, with ranged weapons: coordinated movements, planning, kiting, taking my time
Me with melee weapons: FURIOUS CLICKING AND DASHING

vapid parcel
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yep

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sounds about right

last leaf
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melee's faster tho

vapid parcel
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yeah!

junior field
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me, a fist user: hold attack and fists go pow

eternal breach
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You mean there are other ways than to just spam attack and dash into enemies????

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ratatatata

vapid parcel
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no

lone hamlet
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the guan yu spear is super fun though!

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just need to learn how to beat papa

vapid parcel
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i just dash and attack is all i do

eternal breach
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Chaos: here is a dash attack buff
Me: i owe you my life

vapid parcel
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mood tho

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athena dash all the way

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i feel so safe

last leaf
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athena dash feels...too...good?

eternal breach
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Food for thought: zagreus trying to grab small things with malphon on

last leaf
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like it simplifies so much of the game

vapid parcel
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he has to hold it in both of his little mitten hands

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very carefully

eternal breach
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It slinks out

vapid parcel
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oh no

eternal breach
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He stares at it for a minute

vapid parcel
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he grabs for it

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ah, there it goes...

eternal breach
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Zag gets frustrated. Malphon gets frustrated

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Someone help them

vapid parcel
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no one has a good time.

last leaf
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how do you take malphon off tbh

eternal breach
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I wonder what effects the weapons have on Zag since they are alive and affect him as well

Like if they power him up or make him more bloodthirsty and such

vapid parcel
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teeth

last leaf
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is there a button or release catch?

eternal breach
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You ask nicely

vapid parcel
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that's what skelly is for

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helps you take them off

eternal breach
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... A weapon doesn't want to let go of Zag

lone hamlet
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idk if it's even build viable but Doom on the Guan Yu attack is residentzag

last leaf
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which attack is that

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big spin?

lone hamlet
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uh

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Guan Yu attack is when u kinda,, launch the blade rift

dusk acorn
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what about deflect on the spin and doom on special :v

vapid parcel
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tbh i like my deflect only on my dash and with the exposed thing

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otherwise i try to stack as many other status things as i can

lone hamlet
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idk the doom just makes the guan yu spin do INSANE damage

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probably bc I got the Epic doom attack boon right off the bat

fickle flax
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Hey is it canonical that Zag doesn't know what swimming is and so thats why he can't leave

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When the full release comes he'll have the bright idea to commision one of those boat things that goes on the blood to maybe float on the water

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And then he can leave

dusk acorn
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you have to pay charon to cross the river

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otherwise you will never be able to cross blobshrug

undone reef
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He can leave only when it will be Spring outside

vapid parcel
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spring break out

undone reef
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I just made that up. In fact, if it were Spring, it does mean Persephone would be out there, maybe she would be waiting for Zagreus right after the final boss

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If it is Winter, then Persephone is in hiding in the underworld...Maybe she is hidden in one of those locked rooms

whole path
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@undone reef based on your first full clear conversation....she's not anywhere in the underworld

undone reef
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Maybe it is a lie...

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Let's see what June update will bring on the table regarding Persephone

vapid parcel
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she got out and you later find out how

arctic merlin
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Question: what exactly is the portal in the administration room, and what does unlocking it do?

open berry
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its needed for reuniting nyx and chaos

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save 8888 darkness for it.

arctic merlin
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oooooooooh

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I haven't been able to play, which is why I'm deprived of anything Hades related

dusk acorn
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hOw CoulD yOu BoY? tHAt hYdRa hAD a FaMilY

eternal breach
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Not in the mood for your jests, Father.

dusk acorn
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also dang than is super tsundere when you give him ambrosia

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also huh achilles thinks zag is the god of life

sour lichen
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his blood doesn't have golden food dye so his blood isn't normal for a god

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I just hope they change Hades' blood color to better reflect that Zag's isn't normal for a greek god

dusk acorn
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can't have life without death

bold niche
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should they change colour of titan blood as well?

fickle flax
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wait yeah

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but for general aethetics red probably works

sour lichen
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I can only imagine it would be the same color as their children's

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tbh, the greek gods are a perfect example of life without death cuz all they do is party and have children in most cases

cloud geode
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In the original mythology his myth symbolizes death and rebirth (notice a pattern with winter and spring, so Persephone), his name means "hunter" and specifically alludes to, and i (badly) quote from (italian) wikipedia: an hunter that doesn't kill his prey but devours them alive during dionysus'cults. Yikes Zag

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Also he usually has horns which are always cool as hell (HAH, got it?)

open berry
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dionysus should get his horns back

supple dagger
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They could make the Gods (excluding Zag)'s blood a brighter tint or a darker shade.

fickle flax
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Well hades is basically the only other god that bleeds

arctic merlin
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Since he's the only deity we actually get to fight

fickle flax
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Unless zeus randomly gets a nosebleed

supple dagger
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I'd love to fight some other gods tbh. Lemme fight the Olympians with their own boons.

open berry
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was actually talking with friend last night about a scenario where zag spars with ares, because honestly i think they would both find the experience exhilarating, but ofc thats divergence, not gameplay

supple dagger
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Ares would be an interesting fight assuming he had access to a whole armory of weapons.

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excluding a shield obviously. That's Athena's.

sour lichen
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Fights with the other gods could be cool with how they fight, Hades being a mirror to Zag already. Ares could apply doom with a super long delay and massive damage that needs to be dealt with in some way. Unfortunately, I don't see how they could justify fights on unfriendly terms with the Olympians as after dying to them I doubt they would be as inclined to help you escape the underworld again.

fickle flax
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But also like modeling new characters

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Lest its just a png of the ares art moving around the arena

open berry
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dsjhgsdkgj that is such a funny mental image

lone hamlet
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Fights with the other gods could be cool with how they fight, Hades being a mirror to Zag already. Ares could apply doom with a super long delay and massive damage that needs to be dealt with in some way. Unfortunately, I don't see how they could justify fights on unfriendly terms with the Olympians as after dying to them I doubt they would be as inclined to help you escape the underworld again.
That reminds me so much of Than ngl...

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you can rlly see the similarities between Than and Ares huh πŸ˜‚

open berry
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you cant have war without death 🀧

lone hamlet
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I wanna know more abt the dynamic between Ares and Than ngl thanthink

open berry
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you're venturing into my territory

lone hamlet
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πŸ‘€

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do tell, boss

open berry
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debating how much i wanna out my tastes lmfao

lone hamlet
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that's... up to you, boss πŸ˜‚

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but Ares is undeniably my fav Olympian in this game

open berry
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[i mysteriously disappear for an hour] actually i got sidetracked getting a snack but yes, one moment

lone hamlet
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don't worry I was writing an essay lmfao

open berry
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leaves my shame Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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i actually like all the gods (to some degree) but alas i must play favourites

lone hamlet
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πŸ‘€

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do you know where the empty template is available? I'd like to make one too!

sour lichen
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I think I saw it in #fan-works

open berry
lone hamlet
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thank you!

fickle flax
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What is this?

lone hamlet
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like a Hades fan introduction placard I suppose

open berry
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thse sort of things are popular in foreign fandoms, i see them mostly in jp circles. they usually serve as like a 'heres what i like at a glance' thing

lone hamlet
fickle flax
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Does it feel to anyone else that like greek mythology was only in its first season or series and never go finished

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I guess thats normal with some religions

open berry
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[I eyezoom]

fickle flax
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Nani

lone hamlet
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anyway yes

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stan Ares

fickle flax
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stan Artemis

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And hypnos

lone hamlet
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yes boss

spiral pond
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stan artemis

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and hypnos

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i agree

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for once

jagged goblet
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So I got my first companion, Battie, and I wonder - is it worth 3 (?) more ambrosia for the relationship goals? πŸ˜„

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is that all it takes?

spiral pond
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if you wanna hear some careless whisper sounds then yeah

dense sparrow
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what is stan

jagged goblet
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thanks fade

spiral pond
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kpoop term

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ig

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but it means stalk and fan

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which i dont like the first part tbh

jagged goblet
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truly, the only relationships i want are with olympian goddesses

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gimme that aphro/artemis goals

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but i hear that's not a thing now is it?

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just fun dialogues?

spiral pond
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which both can smite you over it

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if you wanna marry them

jagged goblet
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i do want that indeed

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i'm a fool like that

spiral pond
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get crushed by aprho's thigh muscle

jagged goblet
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better than a bitter fury

spiral pond
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just snaps your head with it

jagged goblet
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ye dig?

spiral pond
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lol

jagged goblet
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i like the geektemis

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and aphro is just 10/10 everything

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gotta love a good flirt

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i'm wooing her anyway, pointless as it may be

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she hearts when we talk, i'm happy

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why are all the real-ationships with whiney pals?

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meg/than

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i want aprho-dio 3some

spiral pond
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than is ok

jagged goblet
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than is whiney for me at least

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might get better if i flirt

spiral pond
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this is stepping into nsfw territory for that

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um

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best stop before mods come for our asses

jagged goblet
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that so?

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seemed fair

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alright

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they made sisyphus such a goody-guy, that dude was a real meanie

spiral pond
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yea ig getting whipped everyday and eternal punishment can change a man

jagged goblet
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i hope so

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if eternal anything can't change a man we're really pointless

spiral pond
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or hopeless

jagged goblet
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that too

dense sparrow
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sysyphus was never a bad guy, he just imprisoned than and escaped hades twice

spiral pond
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um

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no

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sisyphus married his niece and also killed guests, which is a big nono

dense sparrow
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he married his niece?

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welll, zeus married his sister

spiral pond
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olympians have different rules

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also they didnt have others to marry too thats a problem

cloud geode
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Yeah but i don't know if incest was one of those things the gods could do but not humanf they wanted to be frowned upon

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I'm like talking you-know-you're-related incest, not yeah-tecnically-we-have-the-same-ancestor-thanks-to-Zeus incest

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But i could be wrong enlighten me please

thorny surge
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Yeah, the olympians didn’t really give a damn about incest
90% of olympus is zeus’s sons or daughters
No wonder they always hit on mortals instead of eachother

lunar ibex
#

You can always tell it's late when any of the hades channels veer off into completely unrelated chatter

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i guess its related... just like me and my lov... nevermind

thorny surge
#

Speaking of gods, do other gods react to their aspects? I remember Zeus recognizing his when i took the Chaos Shield

lunar ibex
#

Do you mean when you took zeus aspect shield?

thorny surge
#

Ye

lunar ibex
#

ive never noticed

thorny surge
#

I used Zeus’ aspect and he said something along the lines of β€œah yes that’s my shield as i used to know it”

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Don’t own Poseidon or Demeter’s aspect so i can’t check on the other two

lunar ibex
#

When did he react to it?

lone hamlet
#

I should go check the Chaos shield, I suppose

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I think he did react to my Zeus shield

thorny surge
#

Like i said earlier i took his blessing with the zeus aspect on and he said that line

lunar ibex
#

do you mean when you took your first boon from him?

thorny surge
#

Could be just him reacting to the Chaos Shield but i’d be surprised, he never said that line before and i like using it

#

Yeah

lunar ibex
#

Ill try it out next run

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Lol, Im darkness farming on 0 heat, but im already crittin for 1k with guan yu 8 chambers in

lone hamlet
#

that's crazy πŸ‘€

#

what build did you take?

lunar ibex
#

It just breaching skewer and artemis special

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But fiery presence from the mirror

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is boosting damage a lot

lone hamlet
#

maybe I'll try out next time

lunar ibex
#

for the first hit

lone hamlet
#

I haven't tried Artemis on Guan Yu... πŸ€”

lunar ibex
#

and also high confidence

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ooo boy its very strong

#

sorry not breachng skewer

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charged skewer

lone hamlet
#

I usually go Ares on any new weapon. Probably not the best decision πŸ˜‚

lunar ibex
#

A serious ideal build would be artemis special, aphro attack, charged skewer hammer, and then hope for the heart rend duo boon. Athena dash and then whatever you feel

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So boiling blood adds a lot of damage to the first attack, and then along with high confidence, I start out with +75% damage if its on undamaged foes, which is what allows for 1k crits. If I had a point in damage control, I could stick a cast in an enemy and get a total of +125% damage on undamaged foes right out the gate

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Oh, and get the ruthless reflex buff, and you're looking at +175%

lone hamlet
#

lord

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thank you for the advice!

lunar ibex
#

It's pretty glass cannon especially because of high confidence, so you could probably do without that one because its only +25% damage, but it is +25% damage to all sources

thorny surge
#

So what do you guys think Zag is a god of? Rebirth?

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His regular dash looks a wee bird-like (it looks more like a swallow than anything else, fair), and he’s got a bit of a fiery theme to him too

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If he’s actually a god proper and not a demigod anyway

junior field
#

he is a demigod

#

Hades even mentions how Zag lucked out on being immortal, since not all demigods have that

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Persephone is a demigod, too

thorny surge
#

Oh
So persephone was a mortal in here?

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Oh

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Huh

#

Wasn’t persephone Zeus’ daughter?

junior field
#

in Hades, Persephone is a daughter of Demeter and a mortal

thorny surge
#

I see

junior field
#

Demeter has a dialogue explaining this

thorny surge
#

I only got demeter once

unique flax
#

the way they organize lol

thorny surge
#

No wonder Hades is bitter and depressed, he’s surrounded by bureaucracy

junior field
#

he's a god of bureaucracy

lone hamlet
#

the question is, how many % God do you have to be to have a domain?

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I'm assuming Persephone is immortal, and in this game, she's a demi-god. Would she have a domain then?

cloud geode
#

Usually demigods only have things like super strenght (Heracles, Achilles...) or literally nothing but bad luck (Perseus)...

junior field
#

@lone hamlet she may or may not be immortal

cloud geode
#

There's Asclepius but his story is a bit of a mess: he learned medicine from Chiron and THEN became a minor god. A constellation. After dying. Man...

lone hamlet
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yea, but there's my question. how many % God do you have to be to be not a demigod?

vapid parcel
#

more than half xP

lone hamlet
#

god genetics part 2 electric boogaloo

junior field
#

just divine things

lone hamlet
#

if it's more than half then Zag is a god

cloud geode
#

Alright Persephone is originally a full goddess but her being an half goddess in Hades works because... she doesn't necessarily have an aspect...?a

lone hamlet
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or a 'godling' as aphrodite puts it, but she doesn't know about him does he

cloud geode
#

The gods think zag is nyx's child

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And Nyx is more of a primordial deity than a goddess

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Similarly to how we consider Ouranos and Gaea's children Titans and not Gods: we enter god realm with Zeus and the gang

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But Ouranos and Gaea are mother and son πŸ‘€ She wooed Chaos for that. Wonder how they'll manage that

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Oh and Chaos is also Gaea's father/mother- Jeez

vapid parcel
#

yeah idk how they're gonna explain all that but i'm curious

cloud geode
#

boi they got a storm coming

pallid crag
#

i highly doubt the game will deal with titans at all
they get mentioned because titanomachy was a thing that happened and the infernal arms have history there, but thats it

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they just arent important to the plot

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i think Zag is called a godling because he's young and hasnt yet come into his power

thorny surge
#

Not sure if you need to be more god than mortal, in greek/roman myths you just needed to be a demigod (or a very remarkable mortal) that got the thumbs up from the gods

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Then again said thumbs up generally required doing something exceedingly impressive

warm sinew
#

so when you finish with too many casts i believe you get Master Caster title

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i think we should get Master Baiter title when we catch a certain amount fish in a run

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if there is no title for catching too many fishes

lone hamlet
#

well escaping from the underworld would be a remarkable thing, no

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especially since Zag fought his way out

lunar kiln
#

there's a title for catching a certain number of fish in a run

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fisher king

warm sinew
#

imma feedback that actually lol

lunar kiln
#

also master caster i believe is for firing your cast an ungodly amount of times

warm sinew
#

ah okay that makes sense

#

i had 9 casts

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thats why i got it then

cloud geode
#

From the wiki: "Dionysus comments that Zagreus is his favorite demigod, while Aphrodite refers to him a godling and Artemis calls him a "half-god", all implying that Zagreus is not seen by the Olympians as a true god, possibly because Nyx is not seen as a true goddess.

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also The Olympians believe Nyx is Zagreus' mother.

spiral pond
#

hoo boi

dusk acorn
#

random thought: zagreus as a god of life kinda makes more sense with his repeated death life cycle with the escapes

spiral pond
#

god of stanley parable

fervent depot
#

how to get guan yu ? @dusk acorn

dusk acorn
#

he dies, all his boons and stuff is washed away by charon's river, then he lives again to grow and live and die all over again

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nax read the pinned messages it's the pin on the top :p

fervent depot
#

i di

#

d

dusk acorn
#

or wait that's arthur uh

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i forgot the exact requirements tbh the wiki probably has them >.>

junior field
#

it doesn't

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hm, I can't recall what the requirement was

#

was it unlocking all the other spear aspects?

fervent depot
#

i think its defeating the hades with aspect of achilles (spear)

spiral pond
#

i never unlocked achills

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but got guan yu anyway

fervent depot
#

so its rng

spiral pond
#

think its getting all the weapons first

fervent depot
#

okey

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wait

#

i never defeated the hades

#

and got it randomly

junior field
#

there's no RNG to it, it's a set condition. Just can't remember what it was.

fervent depot
#

i got it right now

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i have fought hades

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but never defeated

junior field
#

got what, the line from Achilles?

fervent depot
#

with spear

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no

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guan yu

spiral pond
#

have you get all the weapons in order for it to work

#

I think the condition is getting all 6 weapons

fervent depot
#

i have all 6 weapons

junior field
#

got where? Is it in your spear aspects menu?

fervent depot
#

yes

junior field
#

you must've missed the line then

spiral pond
#

yep i think this is it

#

full 6 weapons

fervent depot
#

so i need to defeat the hades with it to get exca ?

junior field
#

Achilles tells you to say the words, then you walk up to the spear and say the phrase, which unlocks Guan Yu

#

yes, and invest 5 blood into any sword aspects

#

wait wait

fervent depot
#

is there a way to get bloods faster ?

junior field
#

you don't need to beat Hades with it, just have GY unlocked

#

no, unfortunately

spiral pond
#

just heat grinding

junior field
#

check your Minor Prophecies and broker

fervent depot
#

i dont have heat :/

spiral pond
#

if you want easy way out, try to earn a lot of obol

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then buy the blood or diamond at styx market

lone hamlet
#

you have to beat hades first to get heat

fervent depot
#

ye ill do that

junior field
#

just increase the heat in your list, the one you start the run from

lone hamlet
#

keep trying!

junior field
#

oh

fervent depot
#

ty guys u helped so much

spiral pond
#

blood costs 1500

#

so include a cthonic purse into your run in order to exploit that

bold niche
#

you know what can there be in the game
after beating dad stand on his spot and look upon the surface

#

they add this in Asphodel lately

dense sparrow
#

they also have it in elysium

lone hamlet
#

yea! and we can get some Zag quotes with it

spiral pond
#

"dorime" - Zag 2020

dusk acorn
#

"In another version, Dionysus was originally the son of Zeus by either Demeter or Persephone. Hera sent her Titans to rip the baby apart, from which he was called Zagreus ("Torn in Pieces"). Zeus rescued the heart; or, the heart was saved, variously, by Athena, Rhea, or Demeter.[84] Zeus used the heart to recreate Dionysus and implant him in the womb of Semeleβ€”hence Dionysus became known as "the twice-born"." wait i didn't realize that zag's 'joke' was actually a thing

spiral pond
#

thought rhea died

#

like being imprisoned under the tartarus

dusk acorn
#

"Dionysus later managed to rescue his mother from the underworld and have her live on Mount Olympus. " thonk

spiral pond
#

with her fellow titans

dense sparrow
#

thou art a fool

#

titanides were not imprisoned, nor was oceanus, and prometheus (in some versions)

spiral pond
#

prometheus is a titan

dense sparrow
#

yes

#

wait, this is really confusing

dusk acorn
#

i do wonder if hera was a god what boons would she give

#

er

#

if hera was a god in the game

#

that could give boons

dense sparrow
#

marriage boons

#

that makes you married to a person

spiral pond
#

I have an idea but it sounds too niche to work with

#

her boons changes fate

#

basically gives you D20s

dusk acorn
#

i mean

dense sparrow
#

her boons turns you into a cow

dusk acorn
#

one of my suggestions was a way to choose what gods are favored to give you boons on a run

#

since there seems to be a pool of like 3 gods you're 'fated' to find at the start of a run

spiral pond
#

4

#

technically

dusk acorn
#

i don't count hermes and chaos because those are omnipresnet

spiral pond
#

4 gods + 1 Hermes, and 1 Chaos

dense sparrow
#

hera, is a goddess of marriage, birth, family and women.

dusk acorn
#

like my idea was just "what if you could select two of those gods with a meta thing"

spiral pond
#

Her as a god of intervention

#

lol

hollow mortar
#

You kinda can with their keepsakes

dusk acorn
#

another idea I had was having 'replacement gods'. for example, Hestia replacing Zeus during a run with cannon fire and ricocheting attacks.

#

the boons would be similar in role, but different animations and subtly different in certain ways

spiral pond
#

but every gods must come with one interesting aspect which either is a status effect or damage ways

#

I really dont know how Hera can be different while in role with especially her effects

#

most of the basic video game powerup are already included in the existing pantheon

dusk acorn
#

replacement gods would kind of help with that in that aspects could be shared :p

#

i was thinking of hera replacing zeus but I honestly don't know how to swing that while remaining similar

spiral pond
#

tbh i would love revenge damage became a thing

hollow mortar
#

I don’t think that can be done considering the developers pathway and patchnotes

spiral pond
#

then it could be like hera's boon

#

since revenge boons are kinda lackluster on its own

#

yeah we know we just kinda put in developer's shoes on how to tackle it lol

#

brainstorm is fun

hollow mortar
#

It’s already themed with Zeus + Ares so could be added to one of them βš‘οΈπŸ—‘ (but I don’t see many people picking an increase in revenge damage lol)

dusk acorn
#

tbh this would probably be a post 1.0 thing, it was mostly an idea of how you could keep the same number of gods yet still introduce more

spiral pond
#

what if its Ares + Hera

lunar kiln
spiral pond
#

for maximum anger

dusk acorn
#

ares helping hera get revenge on zeus fennekolaugh

spiral pond
#

Zeus + Ares duo can see a new one I would imagine

#

say, Chain Doom

#

in itself is stackable

#

and imma be real doom stacking is really niche and situational and is long run not a good buff overall

thorny surge
#

i mean it's great vs bosses

spiral pond
#

kinda wish it buffs based on percentage rather than fixed value

thorny surge
#

and getting rid of armors

spiral pond
#

i mean sure you have doom rail

#

but with any other weapon you cant stack as much

#

at best you get like +30 damage on average for getting 3 more hits which is puny even against furies already lol

burnt harbor
#

Well, last run of Hades until june

#

Time to be patient

dense sparrow
#

WAIT

#

THE MONTH JUNE IS NAMED AFTER THE GODDESS JUNO, HERA IN ROMAN MYTHOLOGY, SO THE RELEASE MONTH MAY BE A REFERENCE TO THE NEW GOD THEY ARE GONNA ADD

spiral pond
#

I... doubt it

dense sparrow
#

SO THE NEW GOD THEY ARE GONNA ADD IS HERA

spiral pond
#

they did said new character

#

doesnt necessary mean its olympian

#

heck, persephone might just be the last character

#

for actually being relevant to this story

bold niche
#

they said there would be olny one new olympian, and that was before Demeter

#

or was it

dense sparrow
#

twas a joke

#

damnit fade

spiral pond
#

i wish we have new gods though

dense sparrow
#

yes

thorny surge
#

hera has an aspect too

#

hera confirmed

#

not just that

spiral pond
#

So we will have 3 grandmas

thorny surge
#

you know who's getting a portrait

#

charon

#

what does charon do

spiral pond
#

the smiley grandma which will be Hestia

thorny surge
#

take people across river styx

#

what kind of people

#

dead people

#

you know what hera likes to do

#

kill zeus' lovers

spiral pond
#

the alcoholic and grumpy 50% of the time Hera

thorny surge
#

hera confirmed again

hollow mortar
#

Please be mindful of caps

dense sparrow
#

maybe new character is Styx

spiral pond
#

and then the mega pissed 100% of the time and is actually your grandma, Demeter

bold niche
#

so many characters people want to be added, and only one slot left

spiral pond
#

yeah right?

#

if only sgg is a bigger team πŸ˜”

#

we can have all the characters we want

#

but there is a limited resource here

#

you dont want to end up like a certain game that was in alpha test for 6 years

#

and still is on alpha for god sake

bold niche
#

there are only 2 hopes.. post-release content and mods

spiral pond
#

modding is heccin hard in sgg games

#

so far ive not seen a whole DLC like mods lol

#

that wouldnt be called mod at that rate

dense sparrow
#

post release content will exist?

bold niche
#

afaik there are only parameter tweaks and graphics changes

#

nobody knows

#

also.. even modded characters are not the same without sgg voice acting

spiral pond
#

yep

#

simply put, even available

#

i doubt people can put much effort into making a modded character in Hades

#

consider mods are usually developed by one person or 2

bold niche
#

also, visual art style is something people can mimic, but not always get right

spiral pond
#

^

#

its very complex considered its so stlylized

#

take other games, dst has easy artstyle to follow but you still kinda dont get the same effect

bold niche
#

or darkest dungeon

#

also, a modder is not always a good artist

#

my friend came up with a good story for her character, but she is not a coder..

#

i kinda can code, but terrible at anything else

#

she can draw, but it's hard for her, due to lack of self-confidence

#

i mean

#

there are people that can make a full game solo

#

and even make it popular for whatever reason

#

art, story, music, code

#

but they can be count by fingers on one hand

grave sigil
#

man i was so proud when i beat hades for the first time like a couple of hours ago, and i was left with 5 hp
then the second phase started failbag

dense sparrow
#

sec phase is easier than 1st one

#

so, there is still a chance that you win

grave sigil
#

there wasn't failbag

lost estuary
#

Hades kinda depends..

#

sometimes I can't wait until second phase starts, other times I wish the first phase was the whole fight

#

When you lack the ability to deal with burning blood because of other pressures during the run, the second phase is a lot harder than the first

thorny surge
#

Yeah, i got my [REDACTED] pushed in by the second phase despite almost breezing through the first one
The hypnos quote if you get killed by Hades is great though

lost estuary
#

because burning blood synergizes with the grabby urns

#

on top of Hades' faster and more damaging moveset

supple dagger
#

"woah, you got killed by something redacted"

lost estuary
#

You haven't seen hell until you're walking into a field of urns popped from the waves of three seperate burning blood projectiles and having Hades charge at you with Gigaros..

#

shudders

fickle flax
#

For me its way easier to actually dodge his attacks in the second phase

#

Something about his spins is different

dusk acorn
#

he does two small spins before his big spin

#

before it's just sudden

#

he doesn't turn invisible and erase debuffs either

drifting citrus
#

new favorite line: β€œwhat’s for breakfast? dinner, maybe?”

dusk acorn
#

apparently zagreus can't open ambrosia

thorny surge
#

Yeah
Once you speak wirh Achiles about it you’ll see why

#

It’s not a big lore reveal or anything it’s just a bit of ambrosia fluff

#

The reason is that Ambrosia can only be opened when you’re going to enjoy it with someone you have a bond with or something like that

#

It’s basically just fluff for Ambrosia replacing Nectar as a gift the for someone you have high affection with

runic terrace
#

please dont discuss things that arent in the game (whether or not 'yet') in here!

dusk acorn
#

kayo abloblurk

dusk acorn
#

posideon please never call zag little hades ever again :x

atomic forge
#

Oh, he will.

junior field
#

🌊 Lil Hades! 🌊

hollow mortar
#

That's the quote I picked for my infographic lol

dusk acorn
#

lmao this song orpheus is singing of the 'tales' i told them

thorny surge
#

kinda curious, does dusa's quest require you to ||buy all lounge upgrades or just some of em?||

vapid parcel
#

some of them, i read twelve somewhere but i'm unsure

thorny surge
#

thancc

#

nothing will stop me from romancing the qt gorgon head

#

nothing

#

||except the plot||

vapid parcel
#

F

thorny surge
#

big f indeed

drifting citrus
#

@thorny surge ||a rug is required as one of the upgrades||

#

||and you need to fix all of cerb's messes in the lounge||

thorny surge
#

||already fixed cerberus' messes in the lounge thankfully, might not have bought a rug yet now i think about it||

hollow mortar
#

You all realize spoiler tags aren't necessary here, right? shadesmile

fresh bough
#

there's nothing like too careful

thorny surge
#

hey i was given spoiler tags and i answered back

#

also put them just in case someone wanted to figure it on its own

full basin
#

Lol I just realized it'd be kind of interesting if when you die while holding an axion (forgot spelling whoops) light, you could give it to Nyx so she can contact Master Chaos

#

I'm in the middle of that story line and I'm like hmmmm wonder if that's a thing

fresh bough
#

Lol I just realized it'd be kind of interesting if when you die while holding an axion (forgot spelling whoops) light, you could give it to Nyx so she can contact Master Chaos
but they normally have only 1 charge, would be pretty hard timing that out

lunar kiln
#

||she eventually contacts chaos but through other means|| (nyx spoilers)

fresh bough
#

easier done if you have the hourglass

full basin
#

Yea, obvs to both, Kinda want to try it now just to see if there's a chance

#

Not like I'll be loosing a streak anyhow

#

for science!

open berry
#

i mean in fairness if you are in the spoilers channel you should be expecting to see spoilers

#

thats the entire point of the channel

drifting citrus
#

there's no harm in it, and not all spoilers are of the same caliber

#

while that's the risk of coming into the spoiler channel, there's nothing wrong with a little thoughtfulness

open berry
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

vapid parcel
#

you right onyx, you right

hollow mortar
#

It's still nice to see people being mindful πŸ˜„

#

Like, wanting to write them with the spoiler tag||wow|| in case someone else doesn't know about them so just the inquirer gets the answer friendly

thorny surge
#

speaking of spoilerinos, how do you unlock arthur's aspect?

#

do you actually gotta beat hades or does it just have the same req as guan yu?

flat shell
#

There's actually a pinned message about that in this channel!

fickle flax
#

Dusa is the worst fite me

thorny surge
#

@fickle flax leave this discord and never return

honest shard
#

Dusa is friend shaped

fickle flax
#

Ok dusa is the second worst compared to than

honest shard
#

Smh my head

fickle flax
#

Which still means theyre pretty great cus every character is lovely

#

Even lernie

#

And the rock

honest shard
#

Damn u right

fickle flax
#

and the one that yells murder

honest shard
#

I wanna get more lore on why she does that tbh

#

Hopefully it'll get explored more by the time the final release is out

fickle flax
#

Shes just a hard worker

#

Also yeah but thats like everything

honest shard
#

True

fickle flax
#

I mean I would pay to just have more on the olympians

#

Or even have them modeled

#

Actually I think thats just called employing people but

thorny surge
#

tisiphone romance when

fickle flax
#

Maybe I don't want to scream murder anymore

#

also if you think about it tisiphone and bouldy are very similar

#

Very consistent

#

Inspiring even

unkempt jetty
#

Hey guys, if I kill skelly before earning the first of his prizes. Can I not get his prize?

thorny surge
#

he just respawns a couple secs later

#

death is generally not permanent on the House

supple dagger
#

be hilarious to have a DLC or some weird spin-off that just explores who is Skelly?

thorny surge
#

i think not know who skelly was is part of the fun

dense sparrow
#

why

thorny surge
#

i honestly think he's just some random skeleton drafted by achilles just so we can beat him up

earnest trail
#

Maybe the narrator recruited him

bold niche
#

there was a theory.. or actually there never was one, just couple of random facts

#

Demeter's husband was a mortal, some farmer guy

#

he is dead for a long time already

#

and he is not mentioned anywhere in the underworld yet

#

but he probably had some countryside accent and attitude

#

and that's it.. all the facts

thorny surge
#

i don't think skelly is anyone aside from some random dude

fickle barn
#

Very minor spoiler help because I'm stuck: How do I trigger Thanatos' encounter? He's the only one left for me

thorny surge
#

why do people always overanalyze joke characters

jagged goblet
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@fickle barn - just finish the game as far as I'm aware

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beat the last boss, then run a fresh +1 heat

fickle barn
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Ah crap

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I'm still stuck on Theseus. Blond chad and the beefy boy

jagged goblet
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I'd say - enjoy all the progress Argent. It's quite fun unlocking things once in a few runs. Always something new to discover too!

fickle barn
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Very true. It's a blast so far

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Safe to assume Demeter will appear about the same time?

lone hamlet
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Very minor spoiler help because I'm stuck: How do I trigger Thanatos' encounter? He's the only one left for me
I didn't beat the boss when I first met Thanatos, but I just repeatedly got into Elysium

drifting citrus
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thanatos appearing just depends on how many runs you've done

thorny surge
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nah, demeter appears once you've reached the surface

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regardless of whether you're able to complete the entire run or not

lone hamlet
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Thanatos is RNG incarnate

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romancing him is like being at the mercy of RNG

thorny surge
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lul

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do you have to find him several times?

lone hamlet
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you have to keep giving him nectar and hoping that RNG lets you unlock his key heart

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so basically everytime he showed up I'd just. slap a nectar on him

merry sorrel
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ah, like the grandma with the vegetable basket

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"if I send more vegetables maybe my grandson will remember to call me, I've almost forgotten his voice" but instead of grandson it's love interest and he never really calls and you know it

lone hamlet
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oh my god

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accurate tho

fickle flax
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Local teen jumps out of window, receives gifts from strangers, beats girl friends and her sisters, disturbs a dead snake, and most recently thrashes local hero

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The concerned father is now leaving to look for him

dense sparrow
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not really strangers

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more like distant relatives

mint kestrel
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I made the hardest decision of my life

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I had to friendzone thanatos

flat shell
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Why?

dense sparrow
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to convince my friends that i am not gay

mint kestrel
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^

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That, and to convince myself.

dense sparrow
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why would you need to do that

mint kestrel
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now that I think about it, yeah.

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but I sort of want to keep my romance routes low just in case there are future romance-able people that might conflict with what I have.

flat shell
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Even if they do add new ones for whatever reason, I don't see why that'd be a conflict?

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Considering that the current ones are all chill about it, especially.

vapid parcel
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i think you can romance every route

mint kestrel
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wait what

honest shard
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I think none of them are supposed to conflict? Theres unique dialogues if you romance both than and meg but they dont, like, get jealous or mad

flat shell
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Yeah

vapid parcel
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bc achilles says that

mint kestrel
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They are chill about it?

vapid parcel
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yep

mint kestrel
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Oh.

vapid parcel
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poly all the way

mint kestrel
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Fu-

flat shell
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oh noooo i'm so sorry you didn't know

honest shard
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Greek gods were all like that they gave 0 cares

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F in the chat

vapid parcel
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F

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sorry buddy..

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that sucks man

mint kestrel
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Well, that, and I am straight myself, so...

flat shell
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Eh, I mean, I'm aroace and I still think the characters are cute together.

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Doesn't particularly having a bearing on you, but hey! Now you know!

honest shard
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Hat

vapid parcel
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yeah, man

honest shard
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Im aroace as well and the second I saw thanatos I was like "that should probably be a thing"

vapid parcel
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you're basically just shipping them

mint kestrel
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so I've heard about something that your relationship with dusa is gonna be platonic?

flat shell
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YES

vapid parcel
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not doing the romance

flat shell
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SAME HAT!

honest shard
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!!

flat shell
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And yes!

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It gets a little weird for a bit but that does end all tied up as BFFs instead.

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which honestly made me just start bouncing in my seat because heck yes

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Dusa Good

vapid parcel
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awww!!

honest shard
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Dusa has impeccable vibes

vapid parcel
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she's great

mint kestrel
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She's really cheerful when you use the companion

vapid parcel
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i would die for dusa

flat shell
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same

mint kestrel
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but she wouldn't want you to do that, probably

vapid parcel
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did y'all get the convo about the different kinds of love?

mint kestrel
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from who?

flat shell
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Dusa gives it, and I think Aphrodite does comment on it, too.

mint kestrel
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speaking of her, how do I deepen my relationship with aphrodite?

dense sparrow
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nectar

mint kestrel
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Do I need to uh... offer it to any other god?

honest shard
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Aphrodite has a bit of a bug associated with her affinity rn so that might be why if you're having issues

mint kestrel
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So when I offer her enough nectar, does it... trigger a special conversation>?

honest shard
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Not atm I believe

vapid parcel
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it can but it may not i think?

mint kestrel
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So how do I get the dialogue from Chaos about Nyx?

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I've done many runs but he doesn't seem to say anything about it

flat shell
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They'll say it eventually, assuming you've given them enough nectar.

mint kestrel
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I gave both nyx and chaos enough nectar

flat shell
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There's probably just a huge backlog in their dialogue because it was a recent update. RNG is a pain, but we're all beholden to it.

lunar ibex
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Even if you think you're a heterosexual, you have to at least give it a try before you'll know for sure

mint kestrel
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I honestly don't mind romancing than, but I just feel like he would be better as my best friend.

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As for Meg, I am romancing her, 100%.

flat shell
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i ship meg with a better job and happiness, tbh

lunar ibex
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Yeah, I mean, Meg checks all the boxes for me, but I'd probably fall for Than even though I identify as hetero

mint kestrel
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Aphrodite sort of killed my hope of romancing her when she told me she's married Bigfunny

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Wait a minute.

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Oh, right. I almost forgot.

open berry
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sgg aphrodite is probably more faithful than myth aphrodite since there's not really any deliberate implications between her and ares but honestly I'd still love to see phobos and deimos in hades art style

lone hamlet
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meanwhile Ares be thirsty for Nyx for some reason 🀑

flat shell
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so are a lot of people, apparently, he ain't special

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(kidding he's actually pretty cool as far as Ares depictions go)

open berry
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maybe it'll feel more natural playing the game from start to finish once all the content is in, but for now it just feels so out of the blue. the only good that came of it to me is that it's canon that ares is more.. sympathetic to the chthonic gods, more open to learning more about them than the other olympians. cause like. ares is a bit of an outcast himself, even with his altered characterization from myth, there's still the implications made in game that the rest of his olympian family regard him less, as in myth, so perhaps he relates

lone hamlet
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although I suppose that depends how you wanna interpret his dialogue about Nyx

mint kestrel
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I mean, he would probably kill people without batting an eye, but I doubt that he is as prejudiced as his relatives.

lone hamlet
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I really like the idea of Ares being close to the chthonic gods, I wil admit, he clearly admires Thanatos and appreciates Zag's abilities

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well I mean he can't do his job without the Chthonic Gods existing so

flat shell
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Yeah, like... no one LIKES war as a concept, true, but all of the other Olympians are really mean to him to the point that Athena even considers it a bad thing that he's helping us.

open berry
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ares: repeatedly asks about than's wellbeing
also ares: abruptly thirsting for nyx because reasons

hm

mint kestrel
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I am so glad that he is not just some power hungry and aggressive guy like in a lot of other interpretations.

lone hamlet
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the fact that Ares calls himself a 'disciple of death' makes me feel like he doesn't have the Olympian bias on the chthonic gods

flat shell
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Y'know, I hadn't actually put the "openly cordial and friendly with some Cthonic gods" together with the Nyx thing? Him reaching out to someone of equal power that wouldn't have the Olympian attitude makes a little more sense.

lone hamlet
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who knows, maybe he just wants to meet Nyx because she's Death's mom Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

mint kestrel
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also, what is this about his dialogue of nyx?

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What did he say, again?

lone hamlet
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uh

open berry
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that's true. Like I said, maybe it'll feel more natural in the flow of the narrative when you're not waiting for updates to drop, and play everything as intended lol

lone hamlet
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he basically asks Zagreus if he can arrange a meeting between him and Nyx

haughty carbon
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Ares really be like an odd nice guy to than that is trying to hit on his mom.

lone hamlet
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and he asks Zagreus to let her know of his interest

open berry
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I have the entire dialogue somewhere but I'd have to scroll through twitter dm for it....

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since my pc is not on so I can't just pull it off my docs

mint kestrel
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Ahh.

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I am actually a bit uncomfy about the idea of romancing Nyx.

flat shell
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well yeah, that's Zag's surrogate mom, it's weird. Ares wouldn't have that hang up.

lone hamlet
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yeah. romancing Nyx would be odd.

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anyway moving on

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Zeus also called Nyx "quite a catch" at some point and he also talks to Zag "if only you were my son instead of him (Ares)! Haha just kidding LMAO"

flat shell
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thanks zeus. always reliable to make things weird

haughty carbon
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It wouldn't be Zues if he wasn't acting like Zeus.

open berry
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zag: [enters olympus]
zag: [finds out the extent of zeus's... shenanigans]
zag: [exits olympus]

mint kestrel
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Is it just me or is Dionysus the only one on Olympus who hasn't done anything drastic or stupid yet?

open berry
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dio almost always immediately forgets why he was even upset

mint kestrel
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he's a chillax guy, which is why I sort of feel guilty when I spurn him

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but on the other hand, I would much rather not spurn Zeus...

lone hamlet
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Dio is like "yea we cool bro"

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meanwhile Ares is like "we're cool because you killed for me and you survived me"

open berry
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I feel more guilty spurning artemis, esp bc she has lines asking if zag thinks she's some kind of push over and I'm just. oof bc if I spurn her it's literally bc whoever she's paired with has her be the quicker clear lmao

mint kestrel
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Artemis is not the nicest person, but I am ngl, she does remind me of a older sister figure.

lone hamlet
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Hermes seems like he respects the Chthonic Gods too, to some degree πŸ€”

open berry
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spurn her enough times and she starts commenting on how she expected zag's betrayal and woof

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hermes works alongside them more or less

mint kestrel
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Athena on the other hand is just like "Oh well, we all get a little petty and extract revenge from time to time, so I hope you don't mind."

open berry
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in fact I think than points out hermes in addition to ares as the only other olympian that is cordial with him, I'd have to double check

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The others have zero reason to involve themselves with the underworld, outside of zag's drama

flat shell
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Yeah, and him and Charon have a pretty good working relationship, too, so that's another point for that.

mint kestrel
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So Artemis gets very salty about it after you spurn her enough?

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Yeah ok, that just gave me another reason not to spurn her, because I really like Artemis.

open berry
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and honestly hermes started off as more of a chthonic deity before myth gradually had him associate primarily with olympians

flat shell
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What I wanna know is why Hermes doesn't want anyone to know that he's helping Zag out.

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Like that'll probably be explored more when Charon gets a new model, but it's been eating at me ever since Charon got furious when Zag pushed the subject.

mint kestrel
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wait, what subject? Hermes not wanting others to know that he's helping Zag?

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That's... a weird subject to get frustrated over.

lone hamlet
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Charon's mad...?

flat shell
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Yeah, uh... like, after I had both him and Hermes to their current max hearts, Zagreus was going to ask Nyx about why Hermes was being so secretive about helping us, and Charon did the ANGREST "graaah" I've ever heard from him and did the screen shake thing when Zagreus checked with him about it first.

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It kinda stuck with me because it's one of like, TWO times he's actually responded to our conversation attempts with a firm opinion about anything.

mint kestrel
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Well, damn.

flat shell
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Right? It stands out! But I probably won't get an answer for a while.

mint kestrel
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Not until june anyways

lone hamlet
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... huh

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Mr. Charon what're you up to

open berry
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june is so far away I am dying of thirst

lone hamlet
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god I know right

flat shell
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saaaaame

lone hamlet
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and then there's my friend

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waiting for the full release

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rip them

flat shell
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Someone with a stronger will than I

open berry
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I waited a year, that was enough

flat shell
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I was going to wait until full release, saw someone playing, saw how nice Zagreus was and then just sorta... sighed and dove in.

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oh my god

lone hamlet
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I streamed Hades to them all the way to the final boss fight and they saw the 'ending' and got mad LMAO

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they were so excited to see what lies beyond πŸ˜‚

open berry
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zag is legitimately one of the most likable protags I've seen in a game in a long while, there's nothing to hate about him

flat shell
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he was so nice I just wanted to help ;-;

mint kestrel
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He's reckless, but he's a great guy.

flat shell
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No wonder the Olympians also fell over themselves to do so

lone hamlet
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I first saw my friend playing Hades during break time and got interested in the game play

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came for gameplay, stayed for the characters

cloud geode
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How did all of you came in contact with the game?

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I was doing the underworld family in The Sims 4 (Hades, Persephone, Melinoe, Macaria, Zagreus and Cerberus) and was searching informations on Zagreus and oh wow who's this pretty boy? Oh my god a game on greek mythology? Nice. I looked up and there's Achilles. N i c e. He and Pat are canon. N I C E.

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I was never interested in rouge games before i just looked at the updates and slowly lost interest. Then i saw a fanart and OMG PATROCLUS IS IN THE GAME WHAT. I regained interest in the story and everything else like the song and voilΓ 

open berry
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I picked up bastion way back in like 2012 or so, due to all the positive acclaim it was getting and I've been a fan of supergiant since. when they announced hades I knew it was inevitable I was going to pick it up

cloud geode
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I love Good Riddance. Everyone say thank you Darren and Ashley

haughty carbon
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Kind of just stumbled into it from the video about gameplay loop by Adam Millard and from there kind of waited for the steam release to pick it up.

dense sparrow
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Always have been studying heavily on myhtology (hobby), so I found this game while searching dionysus. Didnt think much of this but then the game appeared on my recommended on youtube, in a fury forged vid, so i pirated it. Then i bought it

haughty carbon
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and kind of Supergiant sale got me interested into it more so yeah

cloud geode
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Always have been studying heavily on myhtology (hobby), so I found this game while searching dionysus. Didnt think much of this but then the game appeared on my recommended on youtube, in a fury forged vid, so i pirated it. Then i bought it
@dense sparrow Top 10 anime redemption arcs

dense sparrow
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i pirated it just to test,goddammit

cloud geode
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Alright πŸ‘€ (no really i was just joking when i was little you could call my pc the mediterranean (do you spell it like that?) sea from all the pirated games)

lone hamlet
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if I'm being honest I also pirated it in the beginning after my friend handed me a pirated copy...but I decided to buy it just before the Nighty Night update cause I felt really bad about it πŸ˜‚

dense sparrow
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bought it bc i wanted the winter update tbh

cloud geode
#

I had a steam card soo...

lone hamlet
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my parents don't allow me to buy games so I saved up for it and then managed to buy it via steam wallet

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made a steam account just for buying the game LMAO

flat shell
#

Iunno if I COULD doubt SGG after the emotional wringer that Bastion and Transistor put me though. If I know they're going to give me what I ask for (and some cool stuff I didn't), I didn't really have any fears about the game living up to my expectations.

open berry
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transistor ;__;

dense sparrow
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transistor good story yes