#h1-story-discussion

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eternal breach
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You also don't have to romance only one person!

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Or so i was told

lethal cipher
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let me romance chaos you cowards

eternal breach
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๐Ÿ˜”

merry sorrel
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isn't chaos like the grandpa

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or is that great grandpa

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or is that grandma

eternal breach
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All of the above

merry sorrel
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chaos is the grandpa/ma/parent

eternal breach
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Imagine trying to flirt with the primal conciousness everything came from

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"if youre the abyss i wouldnt mind gazing into you"

merry sorrel
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chaos: gazes back

unique flax
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guan yu

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i could prob open more doors

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is styx even a spoiler?

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dmg reduction

manic yoke
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I'm at 850 coins. About to face thessesus. Now I'm low health and ill probably lose a life here. But I can buy some food. But I don't want to, I want to try and get to 1K for a diamond in the styx.

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Maybe I still buy the food here and just save my money through the styx temple?

fresh bough
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it's what I would do

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save some DD to face Daddy and get some coins to buy the pretty shiny rock

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You also don't have to romance only one person!
wait I gave up having Than for no reason at all?

flat shell
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OOF

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Yeah, everyone's chill with all combos

fresh bough
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guess I'm going to have to reset my save now

flat shell
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/comfort

eternal breach
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Pour one out for a fallen man

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๐Ÿ˜”

manic yoke
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How does leveling work vs rarity? How many levels on a boon before its considered "up" a rarity?

fresh bough
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I think the better the Rarity, faster it will be for it to get strong

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like you need a lvl 2 or 3 normal boon to make you for a rare one

unique flax
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it seems trading keeps level but ups the rarity

nocturne sandal
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So i got the skelly statue, but there is another that unlocks at 16 heat? from who is that statue?

drifting citrus
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rarity is the base value that poms level off of

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you can't increase a rarity via poms, only through special means

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@nocturne sandal the other statues are ||also from skelly||

manic yoke
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What I meant was, levels increase a boons effectiveness, but not as much as rarity does. But like by how much worse is it? Is a lvl 4common better than a rare?

drifting citrus
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i mean, probably

unique flax
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if the rare is lvl1

drifting citrus
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the rarity is only a base value, so if you're putting poms into a common boon you'll probably go over that rare value

unique flax
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but if you buff the rarity tadah boosted

drifting citrus
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a rarity increase increases that base value, then applies the pom levels on top of that

nocturne sandal
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@drifting citrus aaah damm i expected something else

unique flax
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bet there's a strat of using unwanted boons as much as possible then switching to wanted ones when they hit epic or legendary and then wait... nvm. you prob would be out of aspho by then

fresh bough
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bet there's a strat of using unwanted boons as much as possible then switching to wanted ones when they hit epic or legendary and then wait... nvm. you prob would be out of aspho by then
man there's no way you could trade a boon for an Legendary one

unique flax
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i mean heroic

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it's just im used to epic going up to legendary

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irrelevant but i just got a necter from a trove

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ive seen they did that in the past but ive gotten real close and they dont

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(watched gameplay)

mint kestrel
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so how do I complete the quest of renovating the lounge?

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for dusa

sterile patio
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buy things from the contractor that go in the lounge

atomic forge
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whaat the hell

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my first time beating redacted

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the game killed me andi got the heated chart

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if i beat him again what happeens?

eternal breach
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You gez killed again

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The ending is not done yet

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And so you get murdered by the narrator in increasingly creative and hilarious ways

atomic forge
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ohhhhh.... imma grind till the update iguess

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i hope narrator finalboss

flat shell
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The game has a lot of events that only happen after you've beaten that boss, but also the nature of the game revolves around dying a lot. a lot. So just enjoy the ability to get more rewards and explore more of it in the meantime!

eternal breach
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Also characters know you beat him and react to it!

atomic forge
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ive yet to do my run

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i actually always lose when i got the best upgrades i need but i won with bad ones

eternal breach
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I legit thought they won't when i first beat him, thinking there wont be interactions because yunno its placeholder endings in there rn so i was pleasantly surprised

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Shdhdj mood

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I once went against Dad with great heroic boons, my main weapon and favourite hammer, 3 dd left

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But alas

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I was tired

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And i got caught out and clobbered

atomic forge
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sad

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i played it way too safe and won

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the athena transformation was ggood i tried it for the first time

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whenever i havetoo much damage i play recklessly and lose XD

eternal breach
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Same

flat shell
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Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

eternal breach
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Then i go in with the worst setup

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And halfway through i get possessed by Zag and go full on I AM NOT DYING I AM TAKING YOU WITH M E and somehow win

atomic forge
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mood

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i won with a trash setup lol but it had many athena boons so i avoided so much damage

eternal breach
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A downside of sgg making a good main character is i tend to apologize to him when i make a bad mistake ahdhcjg

atomic forge
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sgg?

eternal breach
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Supergiant

atomic forge
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oh

eternal breach
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Me: misplays and Zag gets badly hurt
Me: IM SORRY ZAG

atomic forge
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yeah i likehim

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and the voice acting damnn

eternal breach
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Zag is honestly great

atomic forge
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true PensiveYeeHaw

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the dialogue is of all characters is rly good lmao

eternal breach
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Me: okay so we wont fall in love in 2.01 seconds like in transistor got it?
Zag: h
Me: MISSION FAILED WE'LL GET EM NEXT TIME

atomic forge
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I didn't play any other agg games haha

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I found this game by a happy accident

eternal breach
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I have only played Transistor and I'll play Pyre once I'm done with Hades but

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Def check them out if they spark your interest

atomic forge
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What genres are they

eternal breach
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Can't speak for Pyre and Bastion but Transistor is such a great game

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Uhh i think Bastion is also about bashing stuff, not sure there, I know Pyre is a bit like a sports game (?) but not at the same time, so you should ask around i think (people also say Pyre is godly and the best game by this studio)

But as for Transistor? Turn based (sort of, its kinda hard to explain but it has both classic battling and turns), story driven, a very beautiful style that mixes cyberpunk and art deco, and is a lot about love

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Has very few characters but they're all great

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The music is beautiful, also

atomic forge
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ty ill check it out

eternal breach
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๐Ÿ‘

olive sentinel
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def recc Transistor. Its my fav game of all time and the one that got me into all of Supergiant Games

keen mason
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So who did y'all choose to date on Hades?

tame bronze
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Thanatos was my choice

atomic forge
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same

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WAIT U CAN DATE

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?

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i just shipped them

flat shell
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Oh, yeah.

atomic forge
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hell yeah

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i needto give ambrosia or wat

eternal breach
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Yep

hollow mortar
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I dated everyone because I just wanted to fill the hearts in my codex residentzag

lost estuary
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You can fill the hearts on the codex without dating them y'know

hollow mortar
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And live with the everlasting intrigue of missing plot? Never~

lost estuary
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That's fair enough, though I think only Megaera has extended dialogue since you can encounter her during a run.. and I don't know if anything is exclusive to dating her..

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Although she does say "we can't be seen together like this" a lot in the lounge so I guess you'd miss out on that. Not the worst thing to miss out on tbh xd

flat shell
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She says that without dating her, actually.

lost estuary
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Oh. That's cool

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I'm actually just about to do a run to try and charm Megaera during the boss fight, I heard she has some extra dialogue zagluv

fathom current
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What I like about one of Megaera's quotes is her fascination with the Adamant Rail

burnt harbor
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Teetotaler% speedrun. No Nectar, No Ambrosia, No Dating

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Also no boons from Aphrodite and Dionysus

fathom current
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No compassion, love or fun.

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Sounds like an enjoyable experience /s (jkjk)

open berry
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the extra dialogue is usually just a handful of voice quips, nothing super important. like if you charm theseus he can suddenly shout I am smitten..! which was honestly funny, but i think theres a few different audio cues for everyone to being charmed

upper vigil
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sfhdsagfdshfjg that is hilarious

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I AM SMITTEN...!

open berry
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asterius just made a cute but confused grunt that run

upper vigil
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awww ๐Ÿฎ โค๏ธ

fathom current
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daw

open berry
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meg certainly has more interesting quips due to her relation with zagreus, i think one of her charm lines is like, quit messing with my heart, or something to that effect. that run i only heard her say oh no

fathom current
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Whenever I charmed Asterius 24/7 in the fight with Theseus he just sounds stuggling and a little anguished

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Like, you're charming the bull, he says "My king..." all struggle-like before he returns or someth

open berry
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theseus really sounds anguished in most of his lmao, asterius is mostly varied grunts, but he does have one where he mentions hate

fathom current
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Yeah, just a pained "Hate..."

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When in the presence of Theseus, he says "My king..." sometimes.

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...On a totally entirely different topic, Aphrodite Attack/Special, Chiron Aspect, Relentless Volley and Aphrodite's Legendary basically sits every boss down.

lost estuary
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Aphrodite's Legendary on any fast attack sits every boss down

manic yoke
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I'm at the point in my game where I can clear the first 2 levels without losing enough hp for it to matter, but I lose a lot fo hp on stage 3, die in the temple once, and bearly die on hades himself....

fathom current
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No but like, Vyvalkyr, do you know what Chiron's Aspect is?

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Hit someone with your Attack arrow,

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and all of your Special arrows home in on that target?

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You get a LOT of arrows if you add Relentless Volley

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And like, 15% chance to charm per every arrow?

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You can spam Chiron's special too if you keep refreshing the chosen target with the primary

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Plus it's Aphrodite

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huge damage

lost estuary
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Oh, sorry

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That makes a lot of sense. I just use Hera's

atomic forge
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uhh so in the officer chamber thing

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theres a red portal

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whats that

lost estuary
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if you talk to chaos or nyx they'll eventually start a work order to repair it

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it's necessary to increase hearts for them

atomic forge
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im trying to save up my nectars on thanatos lmaooo

fathom current
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Otherwise, it's nothing you can directly interact with. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the method Hades uses to meet you at the surface, since it's very similar to the portals at the end of every Satyr tunnel in the Styx.

atomic forge
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i thought its where he comes back from

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instead of the normal pool

fathom current
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Oh, no, Achilles says that he witnessed Hades arise from the pool of blood.

lone hamlet
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does anyone know when Thanatos' favor comes up? I've been waiting for him to show up every single run and given him all 6 nectars but it's just taking so long and I've already gone through with the Meg route

fathom current
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I think you just talk to him whenever, in the house if you can no longer talk to him after seeing him.

lone hamlet
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the last dialogue I got with him was something like "we have nothing else to discuss" is that a sign? ๐Ÿค”

lost estuary
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Have you been beating Thanatos?

lone hamlet
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mostly consistently, yeah. but the last time I met him (after that dialogue) I didn't beat him because it was a room of armored elysium chariots shadegrief

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maybe I should beat him one more time

manic yoke
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I beat hades for the first time!

hollow mortar
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Congratulations! ๐ŸŽ‰

dusk acorn
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lmao dusa asking why zagreus has a surface accent

dusk acorn
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hermes actually says "welp gotta go" if you skip his dialog early it seems :x

tiny sequoia
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he really does got to go

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he's got places 2 b

dusk acorn
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lol thesus. Thanatos: "I'm here." Thesus: "I'm not afraid of death!" immediately dies

eternal breach
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Zag: holds up Mort
Theseus: Ha! What is a TOY going to DO, Blackguard?!
Death appears behind Theseus with laser eyes

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Because i have headcanons and you'll have to hear them

dense sparrow
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you mean bazookas or just normal medieval cannons?

atomic forge
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Cluster Rockets

dense sparrow
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Godnoplease

eternal breach
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  • Battie sitting on Zag's head because she likes to be tall and feel like flying
  • Mort stole all of Zag's pillows and is calling them his servants
atomic forge
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Zag told the Tiny Vermin to "pick on someone [its] own size." thanthink

haughty carbon
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he probably meant Mort or Battie

coarse stone
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I would like to see Than's reaction to tiny vermin attacking mort

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Or Nyx asking him if he really had to delete the Temple of Styx out of existance because it bullied his stuffed plush

eternal breach
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Mort slays the tiny vermin and asserts his dominance as the Lord of the rats

dense sparrow
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dlc that lets us play as plushies?

eternal breach
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Anyone: hurts Battie
Megaera and Zagreus: so you have chosen... Death.

dense sparrow
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Thanatos: Who called me?

eternal breach
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Thanatos appears every time someone says death

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And it's just awkward

dense sparrow
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imagine plushies have an item to call their owners to assist

eternal breach
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What would Zag do if he also had a plush that summoned him

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zag appears and instantly dies

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ok that was mean

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... Bloodstones, sorta like his dad's that hit, dislodge and then 'splode

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Takes longer to work but covers up a large area

dense sparrow
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zag is skelly but with 3 revives

eternal breach
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NOOO

dense sparrow
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well i guess its a punching zag now

lone hamlet
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I approve of this

eternal breach
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ZAG IS MORE THAN JUST DYING DAMN IT

lone hamlet
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what about the actual Skelly tho ๐Ÿ˜”

dense sparrow
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idk

eternal breach
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See skelly enjoys getting rekt

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Zag, not so much

dense sparrow
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if he does not enjoy getting rekt why would he date meg

lone hamlet
coarse stone
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Or Than, tbh

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Death and Punishment. I think he has a type.

eternal breach
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Bold of you to assume Than would ever hurt him ๐Ÿ˜”

dense sparrow
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but meg, if zags not masochistic he would never date a fury

eternal breach
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ITS NOT JUST ABOUT GETTING WHIPPED D AM N

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NO RESPECT FOR MEG IN THIS HOUSEHOLD

dense sparrow
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well, no one respects zag anyways

coarse stone
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Plus Than'd dopeslap Zag

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or ask Meg to do it

lone hamlet
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Than hurts Zag('s feelings)

runic terrace
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than would NEVER slap zag hdjfjgjg he gave him THE BUTTERFLY......

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magic charn of DONT U DARE EVEN STUB UR TOE

coarse stone
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If he really wanted to have Zag avoid all harm

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he'd just bridal carry Zag right out of the Underworld

runic terrace
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jxjfjgjgjg maybe one day...he will

coarse stone
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with a deadpan expression the entire way

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Theseus tries to challenge Zag? Than Death Glare

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Lernie tries to eat Zag? Than eye twitch, ded.

runic terrace
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they get to the surface and a few ppl from sgg sit them both doen and explain about "gameplay"

coarse stone
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Than deletes them from existance

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Zag then asks Than what his goal was with the whole thing

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(Then then points at a wedding dress)

runic terrace
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awww

dense sparrow
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what if i do not romance than?

lone hamlet
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he carries you like a real bro should

dense sparrow
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on the shield to your burial site?

coarse stone
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Then Meg carries you out

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or drags you by the ankle

runic terrace
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meg yeets you across each room

dense sparrow
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then Meg gets fired and is unemployed and homeless

runic terrace
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over all the wretches just a BIG toss

coarse stone
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Pretty sure Meg could easily intimidate a human for a living/a house

eternal breach
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whip sfx

dense sparrow
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meg gets the same treatment as apollo

eternal breach
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Zag: What is the first thing you notice when a man approaches you?
Meg: The audacity.

coarse stone
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claps

runic terrace
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[artemis claps]

coarse stone
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Or or or

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Meg: That they look like you. Whippable.

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Zag: Uh, thanks?

dense sparrow
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artemis is not the only virgin goddess

eternal breach
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Alecto: i like the way you bleed~
Zag: dad come pick me up im scared

runic terrace
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JDJFJGJG

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zag: my dad said i had to go
alecto: yeah go HOME

coarse stone
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Alecto would be very efficient at warning people from going out during the coronavirus

dense sparrow
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no doubt she would have killed them all

eternal breach
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Asterius: Are you ready to be pummeled
Zag: let me ask my mom
Asterius: this is not a choice
Zag: she said no

coarse stone
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Change Asterius to Hades

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and that conversation would be funny

runic terrace
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zag: .....he said yes

eternal breach
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At this point Zag has like 5 moms

dense sparrow
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why name him asterius but his canon name is asterion

eternal breach
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Demeter, Nyx, Athena, Chaos and Poseidon

dense sparrow
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po se da wo ne is a mother?

coarse stone
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Poseidon is sea-mom

eternal breach
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HE IS NOW CAUSE IM CLINGING TO HIS LEG

dense sparrow
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eww

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do you realize that greeks didnt have underwear?

eternal breach
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That's his problem not mine

coarse stone
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So many games to play, should get more hearts on everyone. But too much to focus on at once D:

eternal breach
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Does poseidon even have legs

dense sparrow
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yes

eternal breach
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Pics or didnt happen

coarse stone
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That would be NSFW

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

runic terrace
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ok but mermaid tail tho

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imagine....

eternal breach
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YES

dense sparrow
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Poseidon (; Greek: ฮ ฮฟฯƒฮตฮนฮดแฟถฮฝ, pronounced [poseหdษ”ฬหn]) was one of the Twelve Olympians in ancient Greek religion and myth, god of the sea, storms, earthquakes and
horses. In pre-Olympian Bronze Age Greece, he was venerated as a chief deity at Pylos and Thebes. His Roman equival...

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he got legg

eternal breach
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I DO NOT SEE

runic terrace
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damn...guess it happen

eternal breach
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I AM LOOKING AWAY

runic terrace
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U DO NOT...SEA

dense sparrow
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b..but there is not private part?

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why look away?

eternal breach
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Because mermaid poseidon is what i see now

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I have reached enlightement

dense sparrow
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that is neptune

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neptune is the one with the fish tail

eternal breach
dense sparrow
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tbh he didnt have fish tail either but he appeared in the little mermaid with tail so...

eternal breach
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I am... PoseiDONE with the lack of MERMAIDS

junior field
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where would they swim, in Styx?

lone hamlet
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wasn't the one with a mermaid tail Triton?

dense sparrow
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triton is the son of neptune

wooden umbra
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Hey so this is semi spoiler so im going to ask here.How do i trigger the quest to reunite nyx and Chaos?

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do i just pleh the game until its given to me?
I have gifted them both enough max necter

haughty carbon
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wait

dense sparrow
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thou must speakest to the mother of night

haughty carbon
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I just realized

dense sparrow
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wait until the right line appears

haughty carbon
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Poseidon is not the same person as Neptune

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damn am I dumb

wooden umbra
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neptune is roman

dense sparrow
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and the quest item will appear in the shop

wooden umbra
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i see

junior field
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Neptune is Roman's Poseidon

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just like Mars is their Ares

dense sparrow
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neptune is quite different from poseidon

junior field
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sure, they had different traits compared to their Greek counterparts

dense sparrow
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they are different enough to be considered entirely different gods

vapid parcel
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oh btw! ancient greeks had underwear, but not all people wore it

cloud geode
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For example i think Mars unlike Ares was more tactical in war (like Athena) because the romans were more tactical in war than greeks

dense sparrow
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not really

vapid parcel
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(that sounded incredibly random xD sorry the convo didn't load more messages for some reason?)

dense sparrow
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but athena is relegated to home economics goddess for some reason

cloud geode
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Like weaving? :/

dense sparrow
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yes

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minerva is not a war goddess

cloud geode
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WHAT

dense sparrow
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wdym by WHAT?

cloud geode
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Didn't know Minerva wasn't a war goddess

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Got a bit carried away

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Sorry :')

atomic forge
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Demeter, Nyx, Athena, Chaos and Poseidon
@eternal breach chaos i s a woman ?

dense sparrow
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chaos doth be genderless

atomic forge
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ah

eternal breach
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I'm just joking don't mind me. xD

atomic forge
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ah

coarse stone
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Chaos is everyone's mother and father <:

cloud geode
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You forgot about Eurydice she basically adopted Zag first time she saw him

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She even calls him hon i'm s o f t

atomic forge
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is orpheus a guy

cloud geode
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Yep, i think they made him look like the Tokio Hotel frontman because of emo bc cmon it's orpheus

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i think don't know where i found it but i remember they did it on purpose

fathom current
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Is much known about Orpheus asides from his myth, irl?

arctic merlin
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he was also an argonaut, with Jason, Atalante, etc etc

burnt harbor
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Well, to be fair every mortal on mythology was an Argonaut

modern hearth
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Who the Argonauts were varies depending on the author.

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But TIL that the myth was actually based on real events, geologists researched geological data, archaeological artifacts, myths, and historical sources surrounding the ancient Georgian kingdom of Colchis and found that the myth of Jason and the Argonauts was based on an actual voyage that took place 3,300 to 3,500 years ago to obtain the secrets of the ancient gold extraction technique used in Colchis, which involved using sheepskin.

olive sentinel
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I've been trying to get the Chaos/Nyx event to happen, they're both at the lock part of thier hearts so I can't give more nectar... Do I have to do anything else to trigger thier stuff?

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Also I can't post in suggestions but any chance we could have the game remember what heat we have for each weapon? Don't have to go so hard where it's dependant on aspects, just the weapon itself.

supple dagger
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How do you mean? Whenever I start new runs with a different weapon, the pact kinda tell you what amount of heat you're at now when the gauge isn't full or is exceeded. During runs, you also have a constant reminder with a skull on the edge of the screen.

dusk acorn
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@olive sentinel read the pinned messages of the feedback channel and the rules there to get permission(that goes better in feedback, suggestions is a specific thing)

vapid parcel
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Also I can't post in suggestions but any chance we could have the game remember what heat we have for each weapon? Don't have to go so hard where it's dependant on aspects, just the weapon itself.
@olive sentinel i think it says how much heat you beat with a weapon when you select it? is that what you mean?

drifting citrus
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yes, it says your heat with a specific weapon in the aspects menu of that weapon

olive sentinel
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I meant like have the game remember what heat you need with each weapon. So like I'm on heat 6 for the sword but heat 2 for the bow but if I switch from the sword to the bow I have to alter the pact down to heat 2 for my run.

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Just be easier if I head out with the bow it's set at my last heat 2 setting for the bow

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Less pact altering as I tend to play with a random weapon each run

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Apologies I'm probably not saying this correctly

vapid parcel
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ohhh i see! yeah that would be quite handy

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you should put that in feedback!

mint kestrel
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Skelly pranked me. I can't believe this.

open berry
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gotcha, boyo!

dense sparrow
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if i have max heart with nyx does it mean i can romance her?

drifting citrus
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no

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it's only the one with the heart arrow in the codex

dense sparrow
atomic forge
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Step mother shadeembarassed

sour lichen
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more like adoptive mother

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Hades didn't marry Nyx I don't think

open berry
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romance options are only meg and than. dusa is technically considered the third option but hers is platonic

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there are no other romance options

dense sparrow
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w h y

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i wanna romance cerb

supple dagger
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Lol

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I'm curious how they plan to update Cerberus' "romance" path

flat shell
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Let us give Cerberus a walk with Dusa and have good friend hangout times

late plover
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when you get to styx instead of finding a snack for him you just get to take him on a walk

flat shell
#

AAAAY

dense sparrow
#

Cerberus and Zagreus, sitting on a tree

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K-I-S-S-I-N-G

flat shell
#

Someone call the fire department, they're probably stuck

dense sparrow
#

yes probs

flat shell
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(jokes aside I'm very glad most of the expanded affection gauges AREN'T romantic, I just want to show my friends i love and appreciate them)

lone hamlet
#

I wonder if everyone's gonna get an expanded affection gauge eventually... would be fun but might be overload

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oh the things I would give to deepen relationship with Ares ๐Ÿ˜ค

late plover
#

I kind of want it to get a little romantic with Zeus just cause it would be hilarious if he starts hitting on zag

lone hamlet
#

oh my god

kind igloo
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oh man, i jsut overheard meg and than's conversation, she saying that zag isn't ''welcome anymore'' just made me feel awful :/

lone hamlet
#

Zeus' Questionable Adventures Season 50 Episode 30

dense sparrow
#

zeus is not interested in males

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apollo is tho

lone hamlet
#

whether or not Zeus is into males depends on how you interpret the whole thing with Ganymede I suppose

#

speaking of the Olympians, who's your favorite?

dense sparrow
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only r=the 12 or all of them

flat shell
#

Artemis and Athena are both very good friends that also coincidentally carry a lot of my runs.

lone hamlet
#

I have a huge Ares bias ngl

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probably because I beat the final boss for the first time with his attack boon

dense sparrow
#

i have a bias towards Demeter (tbh idk why chill is not that good)

kind igloo
#

i really like Hermes

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kinda wish he had his own attack upgrades and such

lone hamlet
#

idk if Doom is really that good technical-wise but it's incredibly satisfying

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bull rush with the shield and then 1 2 3 SMACK

dense sparrow
#

ares i mostly use on revenge with impending doom

lone hamlet
#

impending doom is super satisfying

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fighting bosses and getting doom on them and waiting and then seeing that huge shorn off on the HP bar from the doom is just

open berry
#

i heard ares, i am here

lone hamlet
#

greetings fellow Ares stan

open berry
dense sparrow
#

you like war that much?

open berry
#

Indeed.

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no einstein, i do not like actual war, jesus

lone hamlet
#

yea

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I just like his design and voice a lot like-

mint kestrel
#

I have a preference towards Athena and Poseidon.

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Poseidon is a bit too boisterous, but boy is his boon fun to use

lone hamlet
#

I like Poseidon too! His aid rocks and his call is fun

mint kestrel
#

It feels great to bully the Exalted using Tidal Dash

lone hamlet
#

god I hate the Shield Exalteds

mint kestrel
#

Shield exalted? Not an issue if you just knock them away-

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and rupture them, if you have that one too

#

his legendary boon just allows you to completely bully any non-boss enemy

lone hamlet
#

I suppose I could go for a Poseidon run next time

#

Exclusive Access is just residentzag

mint kestrel
#

Funny enough, I get Spent Spirit a lot out of all the duo boons.

lone hamlet
#

huh

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I usually get Curse of Longing

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but only cause' I usually go for Ares a lot

mint kestrel
#

I initially thought Aphrodite's legendary boon is not that great, but it proved me wrong.

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I interrupted so many of Hades' sweep attacks using that boon

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Which is an absolute life saver

cinder saffron
#

Yes its amazing

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Then you get Poseidon legendary and cry

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as you sell it for 450 gold to buy hermes

mint kestrel
#

btw how do you get Chaos' dialogue about Nyx?

cinder saffron
#

i dont knoiw

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got them both maxed out and nothing is hjappeneing

lone hamlet
#

just keep talking and givin em' Nectar

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I suppose it just takes time

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everybody in the Nyx family seems to be fond of taking their time

nocturne sandal
#

using the nyx keepsake and visiting chaos might help, he does mention nyx this way

atomic forge
#

they*

warm sinew
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lol when you choose artemis over zeus she say "uh-oh somebodys gonna get mad" with a really cute voice

lone hamlet
#

for Cap0= Dusa's 'favor', as far as I know, is that quest in the list of minor prophecies where you have to renovate the lounge

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buy 12 lounge related things from the contractor

dense hedge
#

yeah but how do I get it to show up in the list

somber vortex
#

@lone hamlet what does stan mean?

dense hedge
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I gave her the required nectar

lone hamlet
#

....stan?

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Stan is like uh. how do I explain this lol

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when you stan someone it means you're a fan of them and support them

somber vortex
#

Yeah I know that.

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But where does the word come from?

lone hamlet
#

as for how to get it to show up, I'm not sure, sorry! I can't remember how I did that

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oh apparently it's from Eminem's song Stan lmao

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which is about an obsessive fan

somber vortex
#

what

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wow

#

huh

#

that makes sense

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thanks

lone hamlet
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'Stan' is the obsessive fan's name in the song

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tmyk lol

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no problem!

dense hedge
#

great song btw

dusk acorn
#

i had a recent run where I got exclusive access as like. my fourth boon

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feels so good

thin finch
#

only spear and sword have a hidden form right?

dusk acorn
#

so far

lone hamlet
#

they'll add more I'm sure

keen mason
#

What does everyone wanna see for the Fourth aspect of the Bow Gameplay wise

junior field
#

well, we have one attack aspect, one special aspect, and one cast aspect

#

no idea

lone hamlet
#

probably one with a different concept altogether, like Guan Yu and Arthur

keen mason
#

Maybe it could make the power shot do something

lone hamlet
#

who do you think they're gonna name it after though?

keen mason
#

Hear me out but I think it'll be Ullr

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From Norse mythology

dense sparrow
#

i believe it is not

keen mason
#

Ok?

dense sparrow
#

ullr is not a god of archery of any kind

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skadi, maybe tho

keen mason
#

I can think what I want but ok

dense sparrow
#

technically speaking, ullr is a snow god

lone hamlet
#

Ullr was at least associated with archery so there's some point in that

junior field
#

I wouldn't call Arthur different, personally

lone hamlet
#

although I think they'd follow the trend of having non-mythical or at least semi-mythical (?) figures for the aspects. like Guan Yu and Arthur

junior field
#

it's basically an attack aspect

keen mason
#

The only thing different is the special and the very high damage

lone hamlet
#

man imagine a Robin Hood bow Aspect ๐Ÿ˜‚

junior field
#

yeah, but you don't use the special to actually deal damage

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like you wouldn't call Poseidon sword a special aspect despite using the special all the time

keen mason
#

It's still useful though

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Especially on hard labor

lone hamlet
#

ok true

#

I should try out a new aspect soon..

#

I have all Shield Aspects and then Talos for the Fists. Probably a bow aspect next

junior field
#

I'd like to see something from Egypt, personally

lone hamlet
#

or maybe Demeter aspect could be fun

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oh yeah Egypt would be nice!

dense sparrow
#

egypt hath not many semi divine beings tho

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tho all pharaohs are supposed to be horus incarnate

junior field
#

all pharaohs were semi-divine

#

ye

keen mason
#

The 4th chaos Sheild aspect I have no clue what it could be

lone hamlet
#

which Pharaoh used a bow prominently though thanthink

dense sparrow
#

pharaohs were not warriors

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they were, for the most part, administrator

#

but rameses II is seen holding a bow in a pyramid writing

lone hamlet
#

as for shields... there doesn't seem to be a lot of semi divine (?) shield owners

junior field
#

yeah, I can't think of any notable shield bearers off the top of my head

#

but if I had to guess, it'll probably be some shieldmaiden

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vikings

lone hamlet
#

maybe Svalinn?

#

as in that mythical Norse shield that protects the earth from the sun

#

though I don't recall it having an owner...

dusk acorn
#

Aspect of Cupid

#

technically still could work, possibly a child of Ares and Aphrodite

dense hedge
#

how to get demeter aspect for the fists

dusk acorn
#

you uhhhhh

#

spend the titan blood

dense hedge
#

you have to make it unlock first

junior field
#

do you?

dense hedge
#

there's a requirement beforehand

bold niche
#

well, it's unlikely that Robin Hood is gonna be next bow aspect, since we already have english culture implemented

lone hamlet
#

what about Parshuram's bow Vijaya? From Hindu myth?

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"Every time an arrow is released from this bow, its twang is said to have produced reverberations akin to rumbling of charged clouds, causing terrible fear on enemies and produces flashes of light, brilliant as lightning, which blinds the enemy."

bold niche
#

my friend suggested Fail-not, bow of Tristan, or golden bow of Seppo Ilmarinen, or Tambar, bow of Einar Thambarskelfir

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and also she suggested Svalinn for the shield as well

lone hamlet
#

Svalinn seems pretty cool!

#

it could have a sun themed appearance maybe?

bold niche
#

it can indeed

lost estuary
#

How do I unlock the final tier for Aphrodite?

#

Her final heart

lone hamlet
#

go through with the Dusa route and Thanatos and/or Megaera route

#

and then I guess just keep talking to her?

lost estuary
#

Well my last five or so runs have been with her keepsake, so I've definitely been talking to her

#

and I've maxed out Dusa, Than and Meg

#

for a while now

#

Aphrodite is the only one holding back on me

#

Is this cuz I always chose someone else during the trial of the gods ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

I mean, though Aphrodite shouldn't have tried to be picked between her and Artemis..

lone hamlet
#

have you maxed Aphro herself?

#

honestly I still need to go through with Than and Dusa... ๐Ÿ˜”

jade hinge
#

If you follow through on telling Orpheus all these tall tales, and then you beat Hades... Orpheus shouldn't believe you. "Forgive me, Zagreus, but not even I could believe such an extravagant claim."

junior field
#

on the contrary, Orpheus, of all the people, should know that Hades can be beaten

dusk acorn
#

there should be special lines if you kill theseus and the minotaur at exactly the same time

open berry
#

@ potential shield aspects all I can think of is like. shield of percival (and like 2 other famous arthurian shields lmao) but they're not gonna do another arthurian aspect, only other vague possibility I've seen is maybe el cid? but mentions are so hard to find but I did find a fun tidbit that he had military books by classic roman and greek authors read to his troops

#

in terms of famous shields there aren't a whole lot of options outside of greek and arthurian lore

junior field
#

vikings, come on

#

they gotta put some Norse stuff in

open berry
#

yeah someone mentioned svalinn

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el cid is a wild one bc if you look up lists of famous shields he'll be included but actually finding anything about it that isn't a site selling some sort of replica is hard

dusk acorn
#

shield of steve rogers ablobderpy

#

svalinn is norse

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalinn not much on it other than "the legendary shield which stands before the sun"

In Norse mythology, Svalinn is a legendary shield which stands before the sun.
The name Svalinn means "cold" or "chill" and is derived from the verb svala means "cool"; svala sรฉr means "to slake one's thirst" and svala-drykkr is an "icing draught".
It is attested in original G...

open berry
#

wait what if we get el cid shield and thor fists

#

mjolnir is most famous of thor's items but he did have jarngreipr

#

big think

#

I'm going with these purely bc I'm not immediately seeing any other famous sort of "fist" related things so that's my prediction

#

I got nothing for rail atm, bow could be a LOT of options

dusk acorn
#

the most politically neutral option would probably be some western-type hero

#

(or rather I should say without delving into modern politics directly)

#

oh

#

you could also have stuff based off hindu mythology, apparently they have surprisingly modern weapons there

#

Indraastra, owned by the king of Gods Indra. can produce a shower of arrows similar to a machine gun

#

there's also agni for a flamethrower

open berry
#

i just havent looked at potential rail options yet bc its my least used weapon haha

#

but yeah there are a lot of options for bow so its hard to guess what direction they'll go in.... but shield, well known options outside of greek/arthurian stuff are el cid (whose shield didnt have a name like his sword i guess? im not seeing anything come up) and svallin, and idk what theyre looking at for fists so all i can guess is jarngreipr (which would push svallin out since they're both norse) so im calling that and will wait til update ๐Ÿ˜‚

fickle garden
#

I've always been curious about something. Does Theseus actually like and respect Asterius or is he just sort of using him and forcing him to be at his side at all times. Cause while Asterius seems like he's always acting like he's a beast that needs to repent, Theseus does seem to hold him in some high regard even if the wording he uses a lot of the time is pretty pompus. what do you guys think?

#

I'm personally under the impression that Theseus does genuinely hold a bond with Asterius, just his own ego and glory hounding mucks up those concepts.

eternal breach
#

Oh uh

#

Hi Meg i didnt expect you to be he

#

Oh.

#

o h

#

erm

#

So ANYWAY

atomic forge
#

Theseus does hold Asterius in high regard.

#

I kinda-sorta-not-really take Achilles's musings in the Codex as canon, given they're often the only source of information on a lot of stuff in-game that we get.

#

Remember that (canonically, this isn't just Achilles's take) Asterius was supposed to go to Tartarus but Theseus brought Asterius with him to Elysium when Theseus died.

flat shell
#

He also seemed genuinely remorseful when he realized his comments about Ariadne were upsetting Asterius, so he obviously cares about his opinion.

eternal breach
#

I think Aster said Erebus

#

For being a monster

#

Or well, as he was a monster

fathom current
#

โ€œWhat now, smartass?!โ€ Cause of death, waterfall

#

I feel like this is a reference to something

fickle garden
#

yeah i mean i honestly think Thesus does care about Asterius, it's just he's too vain to realize that his actions or words are really as insulting to him as they are. i honestly think that's really interesting, to have a character who on the surface seems like he's a pompous ass just using a defeated foe for more glory, but in reality is a pompous ass who legitimately wants to remain friends with a previous foe.

fathom current
#

I find it interesting that Asterius says โ€œThank youโ€ when you defeat him, or defeat Theseus first.

#

What do you think that could mean?

fickle garden
#

It could mean that maybe Asterius just wants to be done fighting already and doesn't like constantly having to do these gladiator matches along side Theseus. that's my best guess.

fathom current
#

Strange...

flat shell
#

I think he's thanking us for a good fight?

#

He seems more gracious about the losses than Theseus does, and mentions he does this all willingly in a lot of dialogue (especially when Zag asks if he can just Not fight him this time).

open berry
#

asterius has more dialogue in his solo fight where he implies he finds zag as a worthy training partner, more or less. where theseus doesnt consider zag a worthy opponent bc hes theseus and full of himself, asterius respects zag a lot

eternal breach
#

I think Asterius' thank you is for the fight as well

#

I feel like Asterius respects Theseus a lot

#

And enjoys the fighting

fathom current
#

He does enjoy the fights yeah

vapid parcel
#

Asterius def respects Theseus a lot, he says as much at one point I think?

#

they're boyfriends

fathom current
#

Sssshut

upper vigil
#

they're definitely boyfriends

eternal breach
#

Is... It supposed to be that Chaos is still gifted with Nectar and not Ambrosia once ive gotten to the point where i gift others with ambrosia

#

I mean it makes things easier but i want them to have it :(

vapid parcel
#

i think i gave them ambrosia but i'm really not sure anymore..

#

huh..

fickle garden
#

to sum up Theseus and Asterius's bond in one sentence "It's not easy, but they make this marriage work".

vapid parcel
#

agsgdgdhhf it's true and you should say it

eternal breach
#

I have the feeling if Asterius didn't have such high respect for Theseus he'd pick him up and hold him up in the air every time he got annoying

Loud kings go in the timeout

vapid parcel
#

adhhdhf

eternal breach
#

PUT ME DOWN THIS INSTANT ASTERIUS

vapid parcel
#

ASTERIUS!! NO!!

#

he's such a dramaqueen

eternal breach
#

And thats saying something given how many drama queens we have

vapid parcel
#

it sure do

eternal breach
#

Hypnos comes to an Asterius signing and asks for a hug

#

There's either broken ribs or Asterius holds him so carefully like you'd hold a kitten

#

Hypnos cries afterwards

vapid parcel
#

theseus like: ARE YOU LEAVING ME?? FOR A TWINK?????

eternal breach
#

Isnt theseus himself a twink

vapid parcel
#

he's a twunk

atomic forge
#

Theseus is peak Himbo.

vapid parcel
#

yes

eternal breach
#

Isnt poseidon peak himbo

vapid parcel
#

both

atomic forge
#

No, Poseidon is just smart enough to understand he's bottom of the food chain.

eternal breach
#

Ausufuf

#

NOOO

vapid parcel
#

poseidon is wholesome himbo

atomic forge
#

Theseus is not only more awesome he's also dense enough to think he's still the toughest cat in Elysium even when Zag dances all over him.

vapid parcel
#

theseus is annoying himbo

atomic forge
#

Normally he's either #1 or #2 which isn't nothing, but the lack of awareness is important, and I really do think Poseidon is more self-aware than that.

eternal breach
#

Now for an important question

#

Who gives the best hugs

vapid parcel
#

cerberus

eternal breach
#

AW

#

I feel like Nyx and Hypnos have high tier hugs

atomic forge
#

They probably do.

vapid parcel
#

yes.

#

achilles can and will break your ribs

atomic forge
#

Honestly, Hades or Zag.

vapid parcel
#

zag gives great hugs

atomic forge
#

But Hades hasn't hugged anyone in years and Zag is still learning.

eternal breach
#

Than is trying his best but he's very awkward i mean zagreus what is this ive never done this before where do i put my hands

vapid parcel
#

agshhdjfjf

eternal breach
#

Zag definitely gives great hugs

atomic forge
#

Depending on how you've taken their relationship, Zag either tells Than to stop lowering his hands or to not stop.

eternal breach
#

Meg is not very into hugs but she will give them if they are in order

#

Shes trying her best

vapid parcel
#

poseidon is a very enthusiastic hugger

#

artemis will try to shoot you if you hug her without warning

atomic forge
#

But he's always damp and then you just feel uncomfortable afterwards and ugh.

eternal breach
#

Zeus also gives hearty hugs but you may get pikachu'd

vapid parcel
#

agsggdhdhf

#

Dionysos gives very good hugs

atomic forge
#

They can go on a little long, sometimes.

eternal breach
#

Artemis is awkward but once she knows you well enough she will HUG

vapid parcel
#

but you don't want him to his one draped fabric may slip

atomic forge
#

Aphrodite's hugs ALWAYS go on a little too long.

eternal breach
#

If she doesnt though, try and you get an arrow

#

I feel like Aphrodites hugs may turn into other stuff

#

Ares says he hates hugs and doesnt have time but he's just never been hugged before

atomic forge
#

That's why they're always way too long.

eternal breach
#

Athena is a hidden hugging gem

vapid parcel
#

hermes gives you quick hugs

#

just like one arm and yeet

atomic forge
#

And yet you always feel better for them. thanthink

eternal breach
#

Sisyphus a+ hugs

#

Bone breaking

#

Demeter refuses hugs but she really needs one

atomic forge
#

Demeter needs counseling.

eternal breach
#

Demeter and Zag hugging

#

Blessed image

atomic forge
#

And please, Ares looking the way he does? He's had people hug him, but because he is the way he is he's still like "Oh, testing for weak points, are we?"

flat shell
#

That's the BEST take

eternal breach
#

Oh hell yeah

#

please consider: Chaos hugs

atomic forge
#

Is Chaos still 50 feet tall?

#

Or have they shrank to only 10 feet for a hug?

eternal breach
#

im sure theyll come up with something

vapid parcel
#

they hug you on all dimensions except physical

eternal breach
#

The hug possibilities are endless

atomic forge
#

"Hello, grandson." [Than grows increasingly uncomfortable]

vapid parcel
#

afsgdghd

open berry
#

oh man i missed a theseus topic

eternal breach
#

Chaos: reaches out their huge hand
Than: [SWEATING]

vapid parcel
#

boops nose

eternal breach
#

Since chaos' fingers are huge i propose also

  • pick up the grandson for close inspecc
  • boop the head like a tiny bird
  • boop his chest and send him flying backwards OOPS
lone hamlet
#

we're talking about hugs? ๐Ÿ‘€

eternal breach
#

YES

open berry
#

i guess

vapid parcel
#

the tiny bird one is best ngl

atomic forge
#

You know the scene in Hercules where Herc first meets Zeus and he's freaking out at the giant statue come to life?

#

That, but Chaos and Than.

lone hamlet
#

man wouldn't it be nice for Chaos to mention their grandsons every once in a while ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

open berry
#

can i just say that re: theseus while i understand why we cant gift bosses, i wish theseus was giftable purely because it would initially offend him but as it continues happening he just gets more bewildered by what zag's trying to pull (because surely that fiend is up to something)

what im trying to say is theseus, after being continually bombarded with nectar from zag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6oQUDFV2C0

eternal breach
#

Right but the entire nyx family has wings, right. Nyx and chaos on their heads in their hades art, hypnos and than in mythology

=> them doing bird things

vapid parcel
#

YES.

eternal breach
#

The NO YOU DEADBEAT except Than is fluffed up like a bird

vapid parcel
#

also ahdhfjjd theseus just sprinting

#

NOPE NOPE NOPE

open berry
#

zag: pulls out nectar
theseus: NOT TODAY YOU FIEND [backflips out of the arena]

eternal breach
#

BACKFLIPS OUT OF THE ARENA

lone hamlet
#

alternatively: you can give Asterius nectar and Theseus is just "DONT LET THE BLACKGUARDS WILES SWAY YOU A S T E R I U S"

vapid parcel
#

yesss

#

asterius is just like.. thanks small one

eternal breach
#

"DO NOT FALL FOR THE DAEMON'S CHARMS ASTERIUS!" as he is falling for the daemon's charms

vapid parcel
#

ASTERIUS YOURE SLEEPING ON THE COUCH TONIGHT

lone hamlet
#

everybody loves Zag, like it or not.mp4

open berry
#

i just like to think zag, when given the opportunity, would take sweet revenge on how unbearable theseus is at times by simply.... defeating him with overbearing kindness

coarse stone
#

Poor Zag, everyone seems to have a thing for him and he just wants to cuddle :<

eternal breach
#

Absolutely random of a thought: zag is a hopeless romantic and waited for meg in his room with a rose in his teeth, sokka style

lone hamlet
#

lawd

coarse stone
#

Then she was unimpressed and cracked her whip

lone hamlet
#

and then Than comes in instead, like Zuko

eternal breach
#

G E T O V E R H E R E Z A G R E U S

coarse stone
#

Then instead of backing out

#

Than is like "For me? <:"

eternal breach
#

I feel like Than would act all,,,, grrh i hate flowers theyre under the SUN and theyre so colourful and ewww

But then someone gives him a flower and he gets thanos snapped

lone hamlet
#

Zag: uh... no
Than: oh alright uh I should get back to work bye
Than poof noise

vapid parcel
#

tbh i think he'd be mostly flustered and he guess flowers are fine? they just smell strongly

#

he seems very bothered by sensory stuff

bold niche
#

isn't Than that type, who take flowers, and they instantly wilt, dry out and decay?

eternal breach
#

I mean i think he can control that stuff

#

How would he touch zag otherwise-

lone hamlet
#

bc Zag is immortal? kinda

atomic forge
#

he forgot to turn it off the first time he kisses Zag

bold niche
#

well.. Zag is 75% god, so he might be immune

lone hamlet
#

that's a good fanfic idea though thanthink

atomic forge
#

A minute later he walks back in from the pool.

lone hamlet
#

Zag asks Than to bring him some flowers from the surface and Than tries but the flowers just wilt

bold niche
#

...and appear in the underworld

eternal breach
#

than shows zag what death feels like for a second the first timw zag tells him about his plans to run away

bold niche
#

shade flowers

#

that's where all these petals are coming from

eternal breach
#

Than can't pick flowers because its not their time

lost estuary
#

I would just laugh myself to death if during one of the love scenes, instead of coming out of the black screen in Zagreus' room, Zag walks out of the pool of Styx

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"I shouldn't have said 'harder'.."

eternal breach
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LMAO

lost estuary
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..is this chat pg-13?

lone hamlet
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omfg

lost estuary
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awhh the devs are playing Hades

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that's so cute

lone hamlet
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...yes

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ok but quick ask y'all

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which of the romance routes do y'all prefer?

atomic forge
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Meg.

vapid parcel
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Than

lost estuary
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Meg's voice does things to me, man..

bold niche
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i can't pick up

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they are all nice and different

eternal breach
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I couldn't decide I love them both

lone hamlet
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I picked both up bc they're both great but personally I'm a Than kinda girl

coarse stone
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I like Than <:

lone hamlet
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the Achilles codex entry for Than is just

bold niche
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also i kinda still support my friend's suggestion about 4th route, which is different as well

lone hamlet
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, 4th route?

lost estuary
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If we hug Dusa, can we float out of the Underworld?

bold niche
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with Leuce.. she suggested her a while ago

lone hamlet
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wouldn't you crash on the ceiling?

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who's Leuce I'm dumb

lost estuary
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Yeah who's Leuce

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I'm dumb too

bold niche
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an oceanid

eternal breach
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I gotta go to sleep but happy meg extends my lifespan

lone hamlet
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also do y'all think Achilles's headcanon about Zag is correct lmao

bold niche
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basically, former love interest of Hades, but there relations got nowhere

eternal breach
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I swear both Than and Meg's voices are so good

bold niche
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and she's stuck in Elysium

eternal breach
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Awkward underworld romance ASMR

atomic forge
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Chris Sapphire is pretty good.

eternal breach
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Hell yeha he is

lone hamlet
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Zag's voice tho... amazing

bold niche
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their voices is half of their personality

eternal breach
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I didnt get to enjoy his voice properly in transistor but here its ๐Ÿ‘Œ

lost estuary
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Odd how Zagreus' romance options is the God of Death and the main torturer of the underworld

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The constant dying probably gave him a kink

vapid parcel
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i'm still in awe of logan's range??

eternal breach
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^

vapid parcel
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HOW

lone hamlet
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also yeah Z probably has a type

lost estuary
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What about Darren's range? He voices Zag, Skelly and sings for Orpheus

eternal breach
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WAIT

lone hamlet
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Z's type: suffering

eternal breach
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HOLD UP

lone hamlet
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wha

eternal breach
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THAT'S DARREN SINGING?

bold niche
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is it even legal possible

lone hamlet
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that's insane

atomic forge
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Yeah.

eternal breach
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YO

lone hamlet
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I knew he voiced Orpheus singing but I wasn't aware of Zag AND Skelly

eternal breach
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See you know what this means

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Zagreus could totally sing

open berry
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any singing is darren generally

lost estuary
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Zagreus fills in for Court musician when Orpheus goes to Asphodel

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That's why Hades wants him around

atomic forge
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I really really REALLY REALLY want a bit where people comment on how similar Zagreus's and Orpheus's singing voices are.

eternal breach
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I feel like Zag would sing a bit deeper than Orphy

dusk meadow
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does the messages you get in the finish screen sometimes like fisher king its for anything?

bold niche
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I just want to hear Zag singing

eternal breach
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^

open berry
eternal breach
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What is this

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And how did you know i like jacksepticeye

lost estuary
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Yeah the messages relate to certain things during the run. I'm assuming Fisher King means you caught a lot of fish

open berry
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lament of orpheus live

eternal breach
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O h

open berry
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the timestamp is directly for lament

dusk meadow
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@lost estuary yes, but does it have anything special about it?

eternal breach
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I still haven't recovered from paper boats dont do this to me

dusk meadow
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something related

eternal breach
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I feel like Zag would feel a bit awkward singing

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Like he'd need some pushing around to do it but

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I feel like he'd hum around to the lyre

lost estuary
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It doesn't do anything, it's just fluff @dusk meadow

eternal breach
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Or along to Orpheus

dusk meadow
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nice, thanks, do you know if theres a list about it?

eternal breach
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Or with Chaos

lost estuary
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I tried looking but couldn't find any ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lone hamlet
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if Zag sings Hades would probably have a line about him doing something useful for once

lost estuary
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Hades actually praises Zag if you finish a run with a high heat I think. I don't know what he actually wants Zag to do in the House besides paperwork

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His capacity to fight for survival might be relevant to administration purposes, but I don't see it

dusk meadow
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there anything more cheap and strong than triple-bomb + eris aspect ?

bold niche
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don't think Hades is that type who will support Zag doing anything but what he's supposed to, including singing

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also he definitely can comment on quality of performance

lost estuary
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I feel like Hades does love him but he doesn't have the patience to deal with a child, hence the bad parenting

burnt harbor
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Hades just wants his damn sundial. That's why he is so grumpy

lost estuary
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I mean, when you live for basically forever, taking it slow for a kid must seem agonizing

arctic merlin
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Zag, singing Lament of Orpheus:
Eurydice: ...?????????

lone hamlet
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true ending where we get Hades his damn sundial

atomic forge
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@dusk meadow Currently, Probably Eris, Rocket Bomb, and Spread Fire.

lost estuary
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But the surface is clouded, Demeter says Helios hasn't shone for a long time

bold niche
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also Artemis'boons

lone hamlet
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wait a sundial wouldn't even work down there

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no sun in Tartarus

lost estuary
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no sun on Earth either

arctic merlin
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the "Day...or night" is a running gag

bold niche
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no sun in Tartarus, no sun on the surface

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FeelsBadMan

burnt harbor
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No Sun in Elysium too

lost estuary
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Poor Helios

arctic merlin
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Demeter's covering the planet with winter

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Helios must be pouting real bad

burnt harbor
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Helios isn't in the game either

lost estuary
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Isn't Helios a Titan?

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Where's Apollo?

lone hamlet
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True Ending: You get Hades his sundial for 50 diamonds and you run away to the surface while he's busy having fun with it until he realizes it doesn't work

lost estuary
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or is that the Roman version and I'm just dumb

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@lone hamlet that'd be great

vapid parcel
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helios is mentioned by demeter once

lone hamlet
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no uhh

bold niche
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Apollo.. is one of Helios' aspects

vapid parcel
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he's a titan

lone hamlet
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Helios is the Titan

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Apollo is the Olympian

bold niche
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mistakingly

lost estuary
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Apollo isn't the god of the sun yet I guess

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dunno what he's doing..

bold niche
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there were several person associated with Helios

vapid parcel
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dunno what he's doing..
@lost estuary beating up a huge snake maybe

lone hamlet
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Apollo represented the sun, while Helios was the sun itself, I think

vapid parcel
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that's his origin story

lost estuary
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Whoa Helios must be thicc

lone hamlet
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maybe that's why we don't see Apollo ingame

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auntie Demeter said no

bold niche
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well, he travels on wheels

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giant shining chariot

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and stuff

lost estuary
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huh so apparently Apollo and Helios fused?

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Interesting stuff

bold niche
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more like Zag and Dio

lost estuary
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I like how Hades takes liberties with who the gods are and don't make them as malevolent as the original myths, but still keeps some inclination of the myths

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like when Hades describes Hercules

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Y'know Hercules must be pretty bad if Hades doesn't want to get his help in fighting Zag, and resorts to Theseus

bold niche
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last time Heracles has been in the underworld, he took Cerberus with him

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most probably he doesn't care about underworld prince's shenanigans

lone hamlet
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didn't Heracles rise to Olympus when he died?

bold niche
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i believe so

lone hamlet
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either that or Hades just has absolutely nothing to wanna do with anyone Zeus related

bold niche
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well, Heracles played his part, after slaying Lernie.. so now Asphodel has its guard

burnt harbor
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I mean could be worse. He could instead ask Jason to fight Zag. Shudders

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Also Herakles is Zeus son so he probably would not be thrilled.

lone hamlet
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I get the feeling Heracles would just get along with Zag

burnt harbor
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Well, Asterius does, he still fights him

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When both can't die so Herakles has no reason to hold back

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Also Herakles kidnapped his pet. So I think there must be certain friction

vapid parcel
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in some versions it's not kidnapping tho

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so tbh who knows

burnt harbor
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Well, Zag isn't the kind of keeping grudges, he was fawning at first over Theseus despite the fact he kidnapped his mom

atomic forge
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Theseus did not kidnap Persephone.

lone hamlet
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myth says Heracles spoke to Hades about Cerberus and then Heracles proceeded to capture it without any weapons on Hades's permission, take it out, and then take it back

burnt harbor
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It was because Pirithous asked

atomic forge
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Sounds like classical mythology that is unrelated to the game's version of the myths.

burnt harbor
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Basically Pirithous and Theseus promised each other to get a wife, Theseus chose Helen and Pirithous Persephone

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That got Hades kinda angery and condemned both to an eternity of punishment

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But Herakles rescued Theseus on his eight labor

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Not even he could rescue Pirithous as his son was too great

lone hamlet
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makes you think what the hell Pirithous was on

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asking for Persephone

burnt harbor
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If you could define Greek mythology on one word it would be Hubris

lone hamlet
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and then there's Ixion

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wanted Hera

burnt harbor
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And then there was Jason who dumped a God-Killing sorceress because a richer, most beautiful girl proposed to him

lone hamlet
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Greek Mythology b like: clowns

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but really there seems to be a reoccurring theme of reuniting lovers or families in the game

burnt harbor
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And the there was Sisyphus who just couldn't understand that people die when they are killed.

lone hamlet
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Nyx and Chaos, Zag and Persephone, Zag making the Olympians band together sorta, Achilles and Patroclus, Orpheus and Eurydice...

lost estuary
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Seems to be Zag's theme and his empathy and kindness makes everyone else also want to get in on the action

burnt harbor
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Well, all of them had to hit rock bottom before rising up

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Except Zeus he has been always on top of the game

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Except that cow incident

lone hamlet
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I

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I mean Zeus kinda kidnapped Ganymede so

vapid parcel
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who didn't zeus kidnap

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or trick

lost estuary
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Zagreus

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Or else the game would've been over pretty quick

vapid parcel
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speedrun tactic

lone hamlet
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Zeus would definitely kidnap Zag if he wasn't in the underworld

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mans straight up said 'as soon as you get up here call me and i'll swoop you up'

bold niche
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zeus only build is the most meh in the game, has been said in nearby channel

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so it's a question

lost estuary
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Speaking of Gods

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I get that Erebus is a place, but isn't it a God too?

vapid parcel
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yep

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so is tartarus

bold niche
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Hades is a place and person.. so why not

open berry
lost estuary
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Huh

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I kinda wanna fight Erebus

open berry
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just remembered i was going through all the greek mytho memes on sparknotes twitter last night

lost estuary
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the God of Darkness sounds like a very challenging fight

burnt harbor
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Who was stupider, Tantalus or Sisyphus?

lost estuary
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Could be an Erebus gate in the Styx

open berry
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probs tantalus

lone hamlet
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Sisyphus was pretty smart not gonna lie

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Tantalus was just straight dumb

open berry
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sisyphus escaped twice lol

burnt harbor
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Well, Sysiphus angered Than, Persephone and Hades

open berry
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yeah but he was clever as hell

burnt harbor
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Kinda the three people you DON'T want to anger

open berry
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thats not the point

bold niche
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smart people irritates others often.. just by existing

lone hamlet
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although

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if you could romance an Olympian who would you pick

fresh bough
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if you could romance an Olympian who would you pick
Artemis is the best and worst choice at the same time

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She's the safest one to pick, but she would kill you if you tried to romance her

open berry
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sisyphus cheated death twice, first by outsmarting death himself, and then using his wife to orchestrate his second act, dude was smart as hell regardless of who he pissed off. doesnt mean he wasnt an awful person though bc he absolutely without question was

fresh bough
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virginity and stuff you know

vapid parcel
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tbh i wouldn't really want to romance any of tjem

lone hamlet
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facts

lost estuary
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ARTEMIS

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Her duo boon dialogue with Aphrodite is heart melting

drifting citrus
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let me date ares

coarse stone
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Aphrodite Disapproves

drifting citrus
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not zag, just me

open berry
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why do people keep wanting to date the maiden goddess who swore to never marry

bold niche
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i think of Aphrodite.. just bc she definitely knows a lot about love and romance..

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guess, everything counts as a lot

fresh bough
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Her duo boon dialogue with Aphrodite is heart melting
"Oh, she's here"

coarse stone
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I think Artemis would've been a good friend, not so much a dating option tbh

lone hamlet
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let me date ares

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god mood

open berry
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please i cant handle an ares lovemail mood rn

burnt harbor
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Sisyphus: Ey Than put this unbreakable Chains on yourself.

Than: Ok, bro.

Sisyphus: HA, Bye sucker!

Than:Si-SY-PHUUUUUUS!

lost estuary
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Aphrodite can smell it too, on Artemis

coarse stone
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Roses are Red, Blood is too. If I see myself, I see it with you

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from ARes

lost estuary
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I think I'd go for Hestia, if she ever appears

fresh bough
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i think of Aphrodite.. just bc she definitely knows a lot about love and romance..
she would:
put her in some plan to kill someone she hates
kill you of jealousy
kill you of love
make you be killed in a test of love for other couple

lost estuary
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She seems like a more mature ARtemis type perosnality, without the oath of virginity

coarse stone
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Or start a war if you think she's not pretty enough

open berry
coarse stone
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Artemis would probably be the safest Olympian goddess to meet

vapid parcel
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i think this artemis is just an ace lesbian

coarse stone
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As long as you aren't a pervert and go "lulz nakies!" at her, she won't turn you into a stag and hunt you

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(Since she's typically symbolizing the indifference of nature)

fresh bough
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if you ever hunted an animal for no reason she'll kill you in the spot

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so make sure you just
not

bold niche
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every god can pretty much kill you just for the sake of it

open berry
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thats the fun part. for them anyway

coarse stone
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Basically treat nature like you would treat yourself

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respect it and don't defile it

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Or Artemis would play russian roulette with a bow and arrow

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(only a rigged version where she always wins)

bold niche
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5 of 6 arrows are poisoned..

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but she aims for the forehead

coarse stone
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I'd say all of them are poisoned

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the gods would laugh at poison

lost estuary
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Why does nobody want to date Dionysus

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best god

bold niche
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i think everyone would, given opportunity

coarse stone
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Dionysus would probably be too drunk to go on a date

fresh bough
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Why does nobody want to date Dionysus
I don't know much about him really

bold niche
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in terms of compassion towards humans, Dio is the safest choice

fresh bough
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only abt Midas

burnt harbor
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Ok, hear me out this crazy theory

The Olympic God's are straight out of a 90's family sitcom.

You've got:

Zeus, middle aged family patriarch on a midlife crisis that flaunts on hitting on girls much younger than him.

Poseidon: The single, 'Cool' uncle that wears shades unironically and has to pivot all conversations to Surfing.

Artemis: The loner younger daughter that spends all day on her room chatting on the phone with her only friend.

Aphrodite, her popular olde sister that has a different date every week.

Dionysus, the stoner son that is the heart of every party and you can't remember seeing him clean.

Ares, the rebellious kid with a buzz cut that wears a leather jacket all times.

Hades: The archnemesis that seems always miserable and only serves to antagonize our plucky MC'S

lost estuary
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@coarse stone Sounds like the perfect date to me

open berry
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hades as antagonist is boring bc thats how everyone portrays him and thats not even how he was in myth

coarse stone
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Then you have Nyx, the friendly neighbor with her 200 kids

fresh bough
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@burnt harbor what about Hades just being the angry neighbour

coarse stone
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Thanatos, the sulky goth son, meg, the plucky sadist, etc.