anyways i'll refrain from such unsavory topics in the future
#h1-story-discussion
terse jasper
frozen jolt
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dense flame
I'm confused because here on the discord channel about patch notes there is nothing about aspect of king arthur, but on the steam patch notes it is said that it is added to the game
valid vine
I....i don't get which upgrade to buy to get access to the new room
i have a couple 3 diamonds upgrade to buy but only 3 and i'm terrified of buying one just to see if it works
dense flame
you just get access to it after a run or two when you go lay in bed
valid vine
weird, i've had like 4 runs and still no luck. Alright, i'll try next time
dense flame
and then ofc buy it as you are saying from the work contractor
valid vine
yeah but do you remember the name of the contract ?
valid vine
the main hall category ?
dense flame
work orders category
valid vine
1 for 1 :)
dense flame
👌
remote meadow
If there something special I need to do to progress Orpheus/Eurydice? I have them both maxed out (to the locked heart), I've unlocked the archives, and I saw the scene where Hades yells at Orpheus and mentions the contract
tiny oyster
slim pecan
ok so i opened the archives but i cant interact with anything
even after completing a run
dense flame
ok i still dont got that arthur's aspect how many blood do i need to invest in other blade's aspects?
frozen jolt
i have maxed aspect of zagreus and just unlocked all the other aspects to lv.1, and i got it immediately after unlocking guan yu
dense flame
hmm i have aspect of nemesis at 4th, poseidon at 2nd and zagreus at level 0, maybe thats the case 🤔
dense flame
damn i maxed aspect of nemesis got aspect of zagreus at level 1 and have poseidon at 2nd and still cant get it. Or maybe it will unlock after few runs i dunno (i unlocked aspect of guan yu)
slim pecan
whats the seeker benefit and where shall i find it?
burnt harbor
I think I'm gonna grind blood to get that Aspect
I have already Guan yu
I need the three sword aspects. Right?
Plus some undefined number of upgrades
burnt harbor
As in being lvl.1?
clever fern
i think so
burnt harbor
Ok, Thank you
clever fern
sorry if its not work because i maxed everything out so i dont know exact the way
torn junco
i think u need to unlock all aspects only and get the talk with nyx
clever fern
greg said:"Unlocking the Aspect of Arthur requires first having unlocked the Aspect of Guan Yu, then having invested a certain amount of Titan Blood into Blade aspects. Then, Nyx will tell you more."
so u need to use ur TBlood too
indigo cipher
just got to the third level of lyre playing
i swear one of the sound clips is just part of spike on a rail
spring scaffold
Pretty sure it is, yeah.
open berry
@ sword convo, you don't need to level each aspect. You literally only need a minimum of 5 titan blood invested in the sword, aspect doesn't matter. you could have everything maxed or you could just have zagreus aspect maxed, doesn't matter so long as you've put at least 5 blood into the sword
that is the bare minimum requirement for it
dense jay
Did anybody figure out how to advance the Artemis/Zeus events yet? They are the only two with locked hearts on my codex right now 
open berry
there are more with locked hearts after the update than that but no, I don't believe anyone has found anything for them yet
dense jay
there are more with locked hearts after the update than that
like who?
The only other NPCs with locks for me were Chaos/Nyx and both were unlocked after doing their extorsionquest
Art/Zeus are still locked after their event regarding Zeus wanting Artemis to get a boyfriend
random shoal
since I went away from enemies do extra dmg heat I have such an easier time
btw guys which duo was ice shard explosion on throw?
it turned the throw into shards that travel on explosion and left behind whirlwinds
indigo cipher
Blizzard Shot, I believe it’s Poseidon and Demeter
random shoal
ty
burnt harbor
Who could be BF material for her?
Either Orpheus, Theseus, The Cook or the contractor
rigid vortex
K, I give up, how to unlock new sword aspect?
distant sigil
open berry
Arthur aspect does not require all sword aspects unlocked, only that you have invested at least 5 titan blood into it. I would say maybe greg should have added that to the pin but no one checks the pinned messages lol
slim pecan
Just use the emote
I'm used to it cuz it's basically the same situation at the dead by daylight server
fresh root
Could someone tell me how secret weapons like scalibur are unlocked?
open berry
arthur aspect = excalibur
bleak pendant
check pins
spiral pond
excalibruh
fair light
I edited the pinned post about the Aspect of Arthur to include the additional info, thank you for the heads-up @open berry.
burnt harbor
Given the the part 'prison stone' is in the magic words I think SGG used the wrong sword 
As Excalibur wasn't the sword King Arthur put out of the stone
burnt harbor
-
He put out a sword from stone.
-
He had a sword called Excalibur
And they associate them
spiral pond
Oh yeah
queen trout
akShuaLlY thAts nOt tHe sAme sWord
burnt harbor
spiral pond
didnt excalibur belonged to the L-named guy
lancelot
jesus my brain aint workin bruh
Excalibruh
queen trout
Don't @ me about the Arthurian legend if you haven't read Chrétien de Troyes
burnt harbor
I only remember that The Lady of The Lake gifted it to him after the Unnamed Sword from The Stone broke
spiral pond
also I like Merlin only dont @ me
queen trout
The best character from the Arthurian legend is Perceval
spiral pond
didnt his role is basically telling how terrible Lancelot is
because the first version feature courtly love, which lancelot is in it, and it was okay with french aka the Chrétien de Troyes version
queen trout
I'm not sure
burnt harbor
I suppose It's becuse Guan Yu 100% existed but It's pretty funny how grounded and diverse the info about him is
Specially compared to Arthurian legends
queen trout
I mean there's an historical Orpheus, too
spiral pond
and when it comes to the Holy Jesus amen(Christian) edition they hate courtly love or love in general
burnt harbor
Despirte being 1000 years earlier
spiral pond
its basically a new character that specifically roasts Lancelot alive
spiral pond
Also @burnt harbor he is very much exist
but he is ALSO very much romanticized
Look no further to Romance of 3 Kingdoms lol
burnt harbor
It's pretty funny how pervasive and popular British folklore has been in history
Did you know Henry VIII cosplayed as Robin Hood once to troll his wife?
spiral pond
but his immense strength is real consider that blade is like 50 kg and he can one hand wield it like, damb
trolling his wife as in a way of demote the queen again?
burnt harbor
oh damn he is gregor clegane
spiral pond
because henry 8 is some pimp
queen trout
I once lifted a sword in a museum and I've rarely felt that weak since
burnt harbor
This was when he and Catherine werent married yet
queen trout
Stuff is heavy :
burnt harbor
And he was not like, nutty
spiral pond
nutty
burnt harbor
Yeah, Insane bluebeard
spiral pond
really
burnt harbor
Obviously later he became to fat to pretend to be RH
queen trout
Yeah man weren't you paying attention in class
burnt harbor
Here he was still fit
shy nimbus
I have access to Artemis' final heart lock now!
shy nimbus
It happens after a long conversation with her about how she "feel like I can be me with you, you know? Maybe it's that you don't constantly talk over me like everybody else, beside Callisto and the nymphs I guess."
shy nimbus
Not romancable, duh. It just means to forge a bond
It's like maxing hearts with Skelly or Orpheus
spiral pond
i feel like im too gullible around lol
so is artemis the only current god you can forge bond?
tame bronze
I look forward to form a bond with my murder cousin Ares eventually.
spiral pond
Also ask his tip on his haircut also shampoo choices
everytime someone mentions ares imma gonna pull out the good ol haircut joke
spiral pond
Zeus hair is just... amazing
shy nimbus
I will try with Zeus later. He's the other one with this update
spiral pond
for an electric god his hair doesnt stick up lol
so who can i max rn
imma gonna do it
shy nimbus
But considering how gross he is lately, I'm not sure if I even want to
spiral pond
gross in terms of garbage boons?
shy nimbus
Zeus' hairs is basically clouds
spiral pond
their clothes are also clouds
queen trout
Mythological Zeus is a pompous rapist
spiral pond
Lol I know about that
shy nimbus
Gross as in his mannerism has a shift with recent conversation. "Don't hear anything about me down there, they are all lies, except if they are about me being brave etc. Ugh
queen trout
Not the least gross character I agree
The chillest god seems to be Artemis, or perhaps Athena
||or DEMETR AHAHAHA GET IT||
spiral pond
Dionysus
you spell it wrong
For an ice god she is not very chill
she is very evil
queen trout
I don't think she's evil, just bitter and resentful
They stole her daughter from her after all
spiral pond
Dionysus when displeased
"I am not mad, I am just disappointed."
Literally every other gods
"I will eat you inside out alive for that."
@queen trout she salty
queen trout
Poseidon after you pick someone else :
"bruh"
spiral pond
Artemis, after you finish the trial
actually goes to cry at the corner
I think she is the only one who is actually upset about it
as in, genuinely hurt
Athena, if you pick someone else:
Laughs You are in danger (because she has the hardest trial)
shy nimbus
Zues in this patch can be summarized in 3 points:
- "We're so close, Zag. Perhaps I'm you real father! Btw, your father's concubine Nyx is quite a catch!"
- There are awful spoil-sports out there can't even take a joke, well, I know all their mothers, fie on all of them, I say. Also, such tales of me are all untrue. Except the tales of my bravery.
- A 3 part exposition about Demeter and Persephone.
versed moon
I think my sisyphus quest is busted
I talked to bouldy, then hades and meg about reducing the sentence
I also have admin access
What do I need to do now?
dense jay
Did you talk to Nyx to know where his contract is?
tired veldt
check if you've given all 6 or so nectars to him. I had the same thing: got dialogs and all that , but didn't get contract. Turned out I didn't give him one more nectar and the very next run I got the sentence cancel from contracor
spiral pond
@shy nimbus lol thats spot on on his personality
I might need to explore myself for that horrifying lines
dense jay
Best new dialogue in this patch: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/96434588309540864/687094061701922870/unknown.png
Also Nyx telling Zag she can date Ares if she wants and Zag has nothing to do with it
versed moon
Yeah sisyphus is full up on nectars
I guess nyx will tell me when she gets back from visiting chaos?
dense jay
time to find chaos so you can see her talking with him and then she comes back
burnt harbor
What I get from Zeus is that Chronos swallowed the wrong Brothers
spiral pond
@dense jay me omw to clap hades' cheeks again with my bare fist
wild tulip
I'm not sure if this a spoiler but I need to ask something, at this point of game I can't gift nectar to Thanatos anymore and his 7th heart is locked. Am I supposed to do something to unlock it?
haughty carbon
wait for rng
that's all that can be said
he will give a conversation that will unlock the rest of the progression
wild tulip
So nothing specific to be done?
haughty carbon
nope!
wild tulip
Okie thanks~
haughty carbon
Keep on encountering him in the runs and may luck be with you
devout pilot
i'll read patch notes soon
but, would anyone know how to unlock artemis' locked heart in the codex?
fair light
Hey Highstar, ||assuming you have reached the locked point in her Affinity Gauge, you just have to keep talking to her. She will mention Callisto from time to time as you get to know her better||.
shy nimbus
Same thing would do the trick with Zues', right?
dense flame
is unlocking arthur's aspect rng as well do i have to wait for nyx to have the right prompt?
devout pilot
Appreciate it!
versed moon
I don't know what RNG I'm missing here to free sisyphus
who tells you where his files are so you can get them from the archive?
dense jay
Nyx
open void
do i need to do anything special to unlock the fist weapons?
dusty elbow
As far as I know, no. Do a run and then they should be out in the courtyard for eight keys.
I’d like to imagine Demeter is up on Olympus seeing Zag floundering and is like “ugh fine” and yeets her old weapon down at him
tall acorn
I feel like it's more like Chaos likes to see Zag play with new toys
And bubbled these up
Because didn't most/all of these weapons get discarded/thrown away after the Titan war?
dusty elbow
Oh yeah, you’re right
Great-Grandparent Chaos like “you know what’d be dope if you punched your dad in the face”
tall acorn
I haven't used the Demeter aspect and talked to Demeter with them on, but I imagine she'd be like "yo, I punched MY dad in the face with those"
warped shadow
How to get Excalibur aspect unlocked? I've got at least one blood in every sword aspect, guan yu, and i've run quite a few times since the new patch dropped. How low is the rng?
south oxide
Gave my second bottle of ambrosia to sisiphus, and zag said he had never tired it even though he clearly shared a bottle with meg earlier
Uninstalling as we speak
Unacceptable
dense jay
@warped shadow you need to have spent at least 5 blood on sword aspects
warped shadow
On one, or alltogether?
dense jay
altogether it seems
tame bronze
Wait someone mentioned Nyx dating Ares and I need details
dense jay
Ares tells Zag he appreciates Nyx
When Zag tells Nyx that she straight up says she would be interested, Zag tries to interject that maybe she shouldn't and she goes "this is not really about you"
I got another Ares dialogue talking about Nyx (basically the same thing again) but no further Nyx responses
Athena also talks about Nyx but it's in "I really respect her even though we don't have a lot of contact" sense and Nyx basically shares the same sentiment
dawn crater
I ship it
open berry
when am i getting my comical murderventures with ares and thanatos, there is untapped potential there
fiery flower
I swear I hear the sound of a photocopier in the admin room.
along with some typing
low dock
How do i unlock Artemis 7th heart?
lyric pine
aww he's singing euridice's song
old geode
I just heard his Zagreus song. It's an awesome song, but I feel bad for lying to Orpheus.
Also, a great way to explain the differences between the game's lore and the old stories.
wary blaze
Is there good dialogue that I would be missing by constantly kicking everyone's ass
Like does hypnos say more stuff if you die more often
Does than say stuff if you die in his challenge room
old geode
"Well, it says here that you got killed by a Redacted. What's that?" "Ask my father when he returns."
ornate siren
meg used to be way harder but yeah she's pretty easy now tbh
dense sparrow
can the bull write tho?
wary blaze
Yeah I did notice that
old geode
And of course if you die to a trap or hazard, he'll advise you to stop standing on those
dense sparrow
"when you are attacked by a Brimstone, can you like, move aside or something" Hypnos
wary blaze
I did get the talking to Dusa about the gorgon head boss
old geode
My favorite moment so far though has been when he told Megaera to try dodging more of Zag's attacks
wary blaze
Zag insensitive moments
old geode
And then she's like "Oh, watch out Zagreus, I know your secret now"
ornate siren
yeah that is a great moment
dense jay
@ Hypnos and the minotaur
||yeah, you can get the autograph. According to the dialogue (it's not shown), not only he signs it to Hypnos, he even draws a little bull||
||And then Theseus gets jelly and offers one too, Zag refuses and Theseus pretends he was joking||
spoiling even though it's the spoiler channel 'cause it's a really great moment and I don't want to ruin it accidentally to anybody just checking the channel
open berry
the way theseus sputtered really made it, you could tell he wasnt expecting the response he got and immediately tried to double back to cover himself
uneven loom
i heard that there's a new secret/mini-boss, but I can't find it in the patch notes? where is it?
echo orbit
There's a new mini-boss in the Temple of the Styx
I don't know how I found it, but it was hilarious
Weird sort of question, but when going through Dusa's dialogue and Zagreus brings up her body in the past, did anyone else feel like that was written in a particular way?
It was done very thoughtfully I just thought that the whole reference to Dusa being who she is now and not recognizing her past self
I thought it was kind of neat
ornate siren
it's just random at the end of elite styx paths i think
uneven loom
oh kk
echo orbit
Right it was at one of the elite styx paths
Any tips on how to get the Arthur aspect?
primal cipher
Does anyone else think Tiny Vermin is rougher than Hades?
He's just so full of hate
... and whatever is in those Saytr sacks
ornate siren
He's definitely easier imo
echo orbit
Makes me think of that one comic with the wolves and the most dreaded animal in the forest is a rabid opossum named Toby
dusty elbow
Ok I summoned Skelly and one of the things he said was “Your mama presses olive oil!”
I love this wild little pile of bones
open berry
@echo orbit check pinned messages
coarse stone
To be fair, a rabid opossum is actually TERRIFYING IRL as well. It's usually the smaller animals like the Tiny Vermin that are far scarier than the big ones. (Except Hippos. And Theseus' ego.)
echo orbit
@open berry Thank you!
pseudo escarp
echo orbit
I just got the dialogue thing with Aphrodite saying that she's married and I want to be clear that as Zagreus I don't want to romance her
Also when she's referring to being married, is he not talking about Ares instead of Hephaestus?
coarse stone
Don't worry, Aphrodite is just narcisstic
Zag's not interested in the one goddess who can't decide on which man she's actually married to
(He has much higher quality romance options. Than and Meg are miles better than Aphrodite. They can communicate and both tell Zag that something he does is dumb when he does something dumb =P)
lost jungle
also bouldy !
queen trout
they can communicate
passive agressive immature banter for months before thinly-veiled emotions start to show up
conjugal violence
have to bribe them so they stop withholding affection
most intimate interactions are sex innuendos
junior field
giggles
ornate siren
I feel like most of those points just describe teenagers
dense jay
look, you are into someone who whips people for a living, you need to be ready for some communication snafus here and there
dense sparrow
not whip, torture people for a living
coarse stone
I don't think Meg actually lives for her job nor has any choice otherwise <:
Imagine if no one went afoul of Meg's punishment domain and Zag was not a target of punishing.
Meg'd just probably go on a vacation with Dusa
Maybe somewhere on a beach. They can get Dusa some sunglasses and relax
clear sinew
Hey how do you advance the Orpheus/Eurydice story? Do they just need more hearts
Nah meg the goth would never go to the beach
coarse stone
She really doesn't seem to fit the goth archetype though
clear sinew
I haven’t got that many hearts with her yet tbh
lost jungle
Anyone yet finished the orpheus Euridice questline?
late schooner
Regarding Thanatos, which option lets you ||stay friends with him?||
lunar kiln
either
late schooner
Cool, thanks
hollow mortar
Chaos' accusing Zagreus of theft is hilarious. Zagreus, don't you know stealing affection is bad? 
supple dagger
did that one Demeter boon where enemies shatter at 10% HP get a new animation with it? I just fought the King and the Bull and out of nowhere, a frosty scythe appeared with Demeter's Call dialogue echoed in the arena. For a moment, I thought Thanatos just magically appeared and said "lemme do that for you!"
tired veldt
it's already been there
supple dagger
Ah.
Feels new. I remember having the legendary boon and it never did this for me before. It definitely killed enemies instantly, but I always either worked on the bosses or they just died spontaneously with no pause or scythe animation.
vagrant cloud
Is there a list for end-game titles?
supple dagger
Unrelated, I am making progress with the Orpheus questline finally and I have to laugh that the moment ||Orpheus spawns out of the court, Hades randomly goes "denied. out!"||
vagrant cloud
@open berry Thanks! I got 2 that were not in the list. 1. ||Middle Management Cutter. I guess I killed all 3 middle management rooms.|| 2. ||Decathete. I'm not sure. I escaped 10 times in a row?||
Also 3. ||Favored and Envied||. I'm not sure which this one is.
open berry
there's probably new ones from the update, I'm not sure
open berry
@supple dagger I had orpheus completely disappear but he was still playing hymn to zagreus, which was at its loudest right in front of zag's room, so that was interesting
lunar kiln
favored and envied is for ||completing 2 trials of the gods||
open berry
There should be one for 2 trials but you scorn the same god both trials
lunar kiln
middle management cutter is for ||killing all minibosses (excluding barge of death and asterius)||
triathlete/decathlete is for ||successfully escaping 3/10 times in a row||
dense jay
I finished the Orpheus/Eurydice storyline o/
Orpheus ||going to visit her randomly between runs|| is the best
supple dagger
@open berry he's too powerful
open berry
the best part was zag did wonder where orpheus went when i walked by. half my runs hes absent from his spot so thats not unusual but he was there up until i went to the admin room and came out, and he completely disappeared but was still singing. i probably should have f10'd that as a bug but i thought it was pretty funny
spooky https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357344472880644118/688798782472978501/20200314220834_1.jpg
supple dagger
it's a the singing CHAIR
additonally, it is hilarious to play any of the two songs that have lyrics and then there's just the music stand emulating music
Is there something specific I need to do to unlock the hearts on Zeus and Artemis?
indigo cipher
I would assume it’s just a random chance conversation that happens after you max out gifts
supple dagger
okie :3
indigo cipher
try using their respective keepsake if you really want, that might help
ocean drum
musical chairs but it's a mimic that makes the music itself
supple dagger
@indigo cipher the ring and arrow? I am. They seem to talk about literally anything else. Same with Chaos, though his keepsake doesn't force open Chaos.
summer geyser
HOW. MANY. TIMES do i have to talk to Artemis to unlock the final affinity hearts, im so unlucky
slim pecan
Don't you need to also talk to Zeus?
summer geyser
I dont think so?
I remember reading that you need to talk to her many time until she begins to talk about Callisto
summer geyser
yes, to me too
but it refuses to trigger the event for some reason
just gotta keep trying i guess
dense jay
same here, I am almost callisto's 2nd best friend thanks to how much I hear about her
echo orbit
So are the max affinity hearts with Artemis romantic?
Or can they be?
Also, I heard earlier you can tell Than to just be friends, can you max out Meg, Dusa and Than without romancing any of them?
I am also in the same boat as Jackolas, I'm trying to figure out how to get Orpheus and Eurydice, while also trying to get Nyx to Chaos
drifting citrus
meg and than can either be romantic or platonic depending on your choice, and it's fine to romance both
dusa has a bit of a twist i'd prefer someone to see on their own
but if you want to know, ||dusa tells zag that she truly analyzed her feelings towards him, and while she does love him, it's not in a romantic way||
echo orbit
@coarse stone A bit disappointing to hear but also understandable.
Part of her dialogue made it seem like she was developing a crush on Zagreus, but now that she's talking about Callisto, I'm starting to think I was completely mistaken
drifting citrus
also she's your cousin
echo orbit
I didn't know how close the relation was in this universe, but yeah definitely not interested since that's the case
drifting citrus
yep! the olympians are your family in some way, but topics such as that are frowned upon in this server so let's move on
modern hearth
I don't think any of them are closely related outside the obvious parent/child relationships. Demeter uses the terminology 'foster brothers' when referring to the other Gods at one point, I assume it's to circumvent all the, y'know, incest present in Greek myth.
echo orbit
Let's move on though
dense jay
Artemis wants to do some co-op runs, not romance
echo orbit
That's a good way to put it
modern hearth
Artemis is just trying to shoot arrows
As much as it hurts that you can't romance her, it would betray her myth tbh to have her romantically interested in a man
echo orbit
I mean she did have that thing with Orion
And the reason why I was interested was cuz the myth version seemed like a textbook case of demi-romanticism/asexuality
modern hearth
That was purely platonic.
I think she even straight up tells him she values his friendship at one point.
echo orbit
Well that's cool too! Ace Artemis queen
modern hearth
That story sounds like a good time tbh.
They just hung out and hunted and danced and sang.
Iirc it was actually implied that Orion was homosexual, too. Apollo shows up the next morning and sees Artemis and Orion sleeping near each other and gets mad and assumes that Artemis had slept with Orion.
Because Orion and Apollo were a thing.
echo orbit
Oh wow that's actually really funny
modern hearth
Apollo is a total jerk to him and makes him cry.
echo orbit
That's less funny
drifting citrus
apollo has a history of not being able to keep his lovers
whether through his fault or another
modern hearth
It was always his fault.
echo orbit
Hyacinthus was arguably his most successful relationship and that one only turned into a flower after the second date
modern hearth
Every single one of Apollo's lovers got tragic'd because of him.
Orion got got in the end because of Apollo.
He sent him dreams of a giant scorpion, then when he woke up he sent an actual giant scorpion to chase him into the ocean.
echo orbit
I'm curious if we're gonna see Apollo in this game since we have Artemis
modern hearth
He lied to Artemis and told her an evil man had raped one of her priestesses and was swimming to an island to escape her wrath.
She rushed to the shore without even thinking and Apollo pointed out Orion swimming far in the distance.
"There he is" he said.
And Artemis sniped him
modern hearth
Yep.
echo orbit
That's so sad
modern hearth
A lot of myths are.
echo orbit
Yeah. That being said, I hope Zag finds a happy ending
modern hearth
Me too but I really think that it's going to be bittersweet.
echo orbit
I have a feeling too, simply because I don't know if him finding Persephone is gonna be all it's cracked up to be
modern hearth
I wonder if he even will find her directly, or if he'll only find some sort of message left for him by her.
echo orbit
It'd be sad if he ends up having to fight both of his parents
Cuz she's called the Destroyer for a reason
What was the other thing I was wondering...oh right! Is Aphrodite married to Ares or Hephaestus in this universe?
Clearly Ares and Aphrodite have their classic affection, but I don't know where Heph fits in the picture
open berry
hephaestus should still be her husband, but ares was her lover
echo orbit
Poor Hephaestus
modern hearth
Poor Hephaestus indeed
open berry
well in fairness without ares the amazons wouldnt have come about so he made himself useful sometimes 😂
modern hearth
And without the Amazons we wouldn't have snu-snu
open berry
its actually quite funny how polite and respectful sgg ares is when in myth he was. whiny, arrogant and completely unlikable. i dont know if the intent was to merge him with more of the positive traits of mars or if it really was just an independent spin on him
echo orbit
Greek mythology just likes taking it out on Ares in general honestly
modern hearth
Before I found out the game was going to be just these four biomes I was hoping there'd eventually be a segment where you're climbing Olympus but this time the Gods are showing their more, uh, unlikeable traits.
echo orbit
Me too honestly
modern hearth
I suppose it's supplemented through the Trial rooms.
echo orbit
Yeah. I feel like the Olympians finding out about Persephone would have more wrath come down upon Hades than Zagreus
Gah I love this game so much
open berry
demeter's wrath would certainly come down on hades, and im pretty sure hes well aware of that
echo orbit
Part of me wonders if we’ll have a sort of choice of ending like Bastion has.
But Zagreus is also very clear about not wanting to live in Hades anymore so it’s hard to say what the option aside from Persephone would be
If any at all
He’s definitely still trying to leave it better than he arrived at least
What Olympians are there left aside from Hestia and Hera that we’ve not seen?
Zeus, Poseidon, Hades
Hera, Aphrodite, Athena
Artemis, Apollo, Dionysus
Hestia, Hephaestus, Demeter...
Am I missing anyone?
burnt harbor
Who knows
Luckily SGG never has put in his games a late-game twist or last minute choice that tugs your heartstrings and erases any hope for a truly happy ending
echo orbit
That’s very true. And I feel like Zag has earned a happier ending by the time he finally gets out
signal palm
You mean "never yet" :^)
signal palm
oh you said his so I assumed you meant specifically Zag
echo orbit
I did when I was talking about him getting a happy ending
But we’ll have to wait and see
burnt harbor
Yeah English isn't my native language
So I often accidentally fall back to my language structures
This one now technically has a twist
Zag voyage is useless because the game isn't finished
So he is condemned to fight and fight only to die in incresangly bizarre, but amusing ways
echo orbit
Haha that’s true
echo orbit
I’d say it’s more like ||Transistor twist what with the dying after having done so much||
burnt harbor
The most important difference there is that ||was Red choice while Zag empathetically DOESN'T want to die||
signal palm
There should be one in the lounge kitchen :^)
jovial cedar
isn’t Pan dead
echo orbit
Not sure what SuperGiant's universe is but funnily enough, the whole thing about Pan being dead might actually be a misunderstanding
exotic mist
isn't pan a roman god
echo orbit
Not exactly
So, if you're going off of historical research, Hermes technically used to be Pan
exotic mist
wait what 
echo orbit
Pan was backwards linked to be Hermes' son
But technically Pan, like Dionysus, was part of the older fragmentary mythology in Mycenaean Greece and before that as well
Aphrodite also was in this trend of being an older goddess but being recast as younger by Hellenistic Greece
exotic mist
ah right shes sometimes a war or magic goddess
flat shell
(shoutouts to sparta)
echo orbit
So Thamuz from Mesopotamian mythos was Ishtar's boyfriend and ended up dying, but he still had his own cult and was praised for his accomplishments, namely his death spurring Ishtar to go to the Underworld and prompting the creation of Asu Shu Namir
So in Greek
The word "Pan" is also a prefix meaning "all"
So the general myth that surrounded Pan being dead was this sailor named Thamuz receiving a message from an island that "the great god Pan is dead!"
But the thing is,
It's much more likely that Thamuz' cult resulted in the praise lyric
"Thamuz the All(Pan)-Great is dead"
Tl;dr - Some people might've accidentally thought these cultists were talking about Pan dying when really they were praising Thamuz for his death
And Thamuz' cult would later be translated and imported into the tale of Adonis
If anyone's interested about my sources, check out Overly Sarcastic Productions' video on Hermes - they do a lot of really good history and mythology videos
vale dove
It takes 8888 darkness to do the Nyx and Chaos quest?!
summer geyser
Yes, better start farming
hollow tusk
How do I unlock the Cycling Vengeance for Ares? I thought I would just need a revenge skill but I haven't seen it come up yet. Is it just because of low Legendary chance?
flat shell
Vicious Cycle is Ares' legendary, and it's tied to Blade Rifts.
Are you thinking of the Ares+Zeus duo boon for revenge boons going off automatically?
hollow tusk
Oh, is that the duo boon?
Yeah, I was thinking of that
I thought it was his legendary
nm then
Okay, I'll go for blade rift stuff then for the legendary
Is the Ares-Zeus duo just tied to having a boon of each and a revenge boon?
Or do you need at least one revenge boon from each of them?
flat shell
Yeah. You need ANY revenge boon and then a boon from each of those gods.
raven gust
You need at least two boons total, one from each god, and at least one of those boons needs to be a revenge boon. Increase your odds of getting better boons with the gods' trinkets.
grizzled kayak
I'm confused on what im supposed to do to be able to buy court musicians sentence?]
like its in the house contractor but says i already bought it?
slim pecan
what are the difference if i take back the ambrosia or let her have it?
echo orbit
I just got Tiny Vermin again
turbid hearth
Tiny Vermin is tough
proper cairn
i hate wanting to get the things i need to progress inter personal relations. but also that i need like 5 runs and atleast 2 or three fish to get one of the things i need.
at the very least, let the gem rooms drop more than 5 ples
woeful quartz
Does Tiny Vermin have a codex entry?
deep spoke
Not yet
burnt harbor
The Tiny Vermin as you know is too powerful and mythical
So Achilles considered himself not worthy to write about it
supple dagger
I just popped in, do what about what Nyx/Chaos quest? Are you telling me I could have been done the quest if I just took some darkness out of the mirror?
because I BEEN had 8888 darkness. But I was messing around with the new mirror stuff.
Unrelated, I'd LOVE to know Hades' reaction to Chaos if he ever saw them... ESPECIALLY because in my mind, I can see Chaos being EXTREMELY tall and thicc in terms of dimensions. Like even bigger than Asterius, who atm might be the tallest person in the game.
flat shell
I'm pretty sure hades knows OF them or has met them before? Just... forgotten about them or pretending they don't exist.
That seems to be the tone that Chaos takes about the other Olympians at least, so Iunno, maybe I'm reaching,
dense flame
I know i wrote about this few times already, but can someone tell me if this is a bug or something. Because i have aspect of guan yu, i've invested more than 5 TB in stygian blade's aspects (zagreus 1st lvl, nemesis maxed out, poseidon 2nd lvl) yet still after 10 or so runs i didnt get any prompt regarding aspect of king arthur is it rng and i have to wait?
tall acorn
There are a lot of new conversations added that involve Nyx, and also RNG
dense flame
so i just have to wait, right?
tall acorn
Yep, just keep running and it'll happen
Took like 10 runs give or take for it to happen
(for me)
I had all the requirements fulfilled before the patch
dense flame
ok, thanks!
marble prawn
i just gifted nyx the first ambrosia and she laughed 
supple dagger
D'aaww
I also keep forgetting that there's a dialogue chain related to dying by Asterius to get an autograph for Hypnos, and honestly, the more I think about it, the more I'm like "but what about that one Shade!"
open berry
that shade gets to watch the battle firsthand tho, hypnos is stuck at the house
coarse stone
also Zag specifically greets the Shade if he goes near it
open berry
unless he gets a chthonic companion so we can summon him and he can make remarks about where ever zag summoned him at /wink, nudge sgg
coarse stone
Better than an autograph, being thanked for your support by the Prince of the Underworld and be called "my good shade"
signal palm
imagine being his only supporter but he doesn't even bother to learn your name smh
supple dagger
The shade gains a special VIP pass and, for whatever reason, uses said pass to sneak into Zag's bedroom to congratulate him on his battle in the arena and that they hope he's able to reach the surface. And to say hi to their parents on the surface, assuming the fan of Zag is fairly young (but not too young and obviously not too old).
coarse stone
Then Shade runs into Than and Meg who are prepping a surprise for Zag
and has way too many questions lol
supple dagger
That'd be hilarious, considering Zag mentions Heracles by name when interacting with Theseus a few times.
or maybe two times
coarse stone
Unless it's Persephone being ninja
dusty elbow
Probably not, but fun to think about
worldly glade
so Dusa is medusa confirmed?
Zag asked dusa whether she had a body or not and Dusa kind of confirmed that old her wasnt really who she is
coarse stone
Why am I imagining Dusa's body walking around headless and making a mess while her head (and her snakes) are trying to clean everything up
deep spoke
Medusa... Youzag
supple dagger
Tbh, I'd like to think that her head obviously went to Tartarus, but her body has been removed "in stone." Like how in some adaptations of Medusa, after being slain, her body naturally becomes stiff almost immediately after being beheaded.
which would explain why she's only a head and not a whole gorgon.
oh god, now I need to know WHERE her murderer is. Where's Perseus?
Unrelated, I just thought of a good idea for an alternate Asphodel boss: a griffon/gryphon. If they exist in this universe of Hades. (do correct me if "gryphon" is another spelling for griffon and not an entirely different thing)
raven gust
they're the same thing, it's just a regional spellings thing.
blissful yoke
jason cut her head off right?
supple dagger
oh okay. Wanted to make sure because I know this game does have a few moments, I think, where the spelling of something things are rather interesting and thought maybe if griffons/gryphons were in this universe, they'd use "gryphon" just because.
the idea for the boss was also because I just rememberd someone on the subreddit not wanting centaurs to physically exist in-game because "they're anatomically unrealistic" or something like that, which made me kinda laugh.
raven gust
I think in most myths it's Perseus that kills Medusa and Pegasus comes out of her body. Jason might have done it in one of the old Harryhausen films from the 60s, though.
It would be cool if Perseus/Pegasus was an alternate Champions boss so we could get some payback for Dusa.
worldly glade
if anything, perseus would be in the elysium, enjoying the ambrossia while watching Zagreus duke it out with theseus and the minotaur everyday. The guy fought legendary battles while he was alive already, why would he want to do so even after death
atomic forge
Extrapolation since so many other legendary figures (the Heroes) still do.
raven gust
won't the 4th aspect be from a future hero?
raven gust
worldly glade
Aspect of Rocky is also acceptable
raven gust
I was just thinking that hah
supple dagger
Funny seeing/hearing there's a hero NAMED after the same mythical winged horse pegasus
trail plinth
hello lads, anyone knows how to unlock the new stuff on artemis, eury and orpheus? 
digital totem
Hector's shade could turn up and make amends with Achilles and Patroclus?! not being a Greek though would they be accepted into the Greek afterlife?
remote elk
So i had a question; i've heard talk via the orpheus-hades contract thing that there is a difference in what happens when hades is at his desk, and when he's not, does this actually matter? because nyx told me something akin to doing the thing at the right time, so it sounds like there must be
clever fern
i think its not matter if its appeared in contractor
zealous marlin
I suggest doing it when he's there
He made a very fun and snide comment that I quite enjoyed
Mechanically there's no difference tho
clever fern
its time to sacrified all your power for the reunite
https://imgur.com/a/eDXZKDm
lunar ibex
I had to give up one of my fated prophecies to reunite them 😦
sly citrus
@drifting citrus Game crashed when i upgraded Aspect Zag XD
Skelly mustn't be ready yet.
drifting citrus
lmao
lunar ibex
Skelly haxing
Wow, Malphon wrecked Hyperion with the twin fists so hard, he destroyed his legacy...
dusty elbow
Imagine being punched so hard you retroactively don’t exist
thorn compass
cool power
drifting citrus
demeter shown to have always been savage as heck
lunar ibex
@dusty elbow Imagine who doesn't exist? 😛
dusty elbow
exactly
dusty elbow
I know she’s unlikely to appear in the game but I wonder what Hestia looks like in this games artstyle
sly citrus
Hyperion? Huh did i miss a Borderlands/Hades collab???
thorn compass
I'd imagine Hestia's hair is fire
blissful yoke
@digital totem rather hector turned up and fought achilles this time maybe it would be a fair fight
dusty elbow
@sly citrus Hyperion in Borderlands is named after the Titan, Hyperion
In case u didn’t know
terse jasper
So just out of sheer curiosity, now that i have the administrative office unlocked, what do i have to do to get the things for Sisyphus and Orpheus' contracts and such?
fierce kernel
just keep talking to people and handing out nectar
terse jasper
mmm
dusty elbow
If a prophecy is unlocked pertaining to it, keep talking to nyx. She’ll eventually tell Zag where In the pile of scrolls that gosh dang file is
(The prophecy is just to make sure that you actually have everything in place to talk to nyx about it)
random bridge
What's the thoughts on what the 4th aspect of the rest of the weapons will be?
jovial cedar
I’d like an aspect for a vengeful son of Zeus, yet to be born.
”Grant me the aspect of Kratos!”
“Huh, I suddenly feel an inexplicable rage towards all things divine above and below...”
remote meadow
I hope all the aspects are from different countries.
undone reef
@Orin, ha ha Kratos such as whiny character...
pliant hinge
"needs 8888 Darkness for Nyx"
I have 14K
I will lose 70% of my darkness
"ANYTHING FOR MOMMY NYX"
ocean drum
i have like 700 darkness cause i have all the upgrades from the mirror i want so that's gonna be a grind oh no XD
jovial cedar
I mean, he isn’t that whiny anymore
I hope the secret aspect for Coronacht is something like Arjuna’s bow. Don’t know why, I just think it’d be cool.
pallid crag
Felby, just reset the mirror for one key
slim pecan
Robin hood's bow
pallid crag
his bow isnt special
random bridge
I'm lowkey thinking something wack like 'Aspect of Blackbeard' for Exagryph
haughty carbon
so like a cannon?
random bridge
low ammo but you fire high power musket balls, and the special applies DoT fire
haughty carbon
ngl that would be cool
jovial cedar
Aspect of Ajax for the shield?
Don’t know if it’d fit since it’s still Greek
I’d say Aspect of Galahad but we’ve already got King Arthur
random bridge
I'd not be surprised if the twin fists is Aspect of Rocky or some other famous boxer
at the same time suggesting Rocky wielded malphon...
lusty barn
I knew that guy was cheating. He couldn't handle losing to... omg Apollo
Now we have a Greek link!
random bridge
its probably an easy one but Aspect of Robin for Coronacht
lusty barn
To mis-quote Hedly Lamar: Too British.
clear sinew
a pirate cannon would be pretty good i reckon
havent seen many other good suggestions for exagryph
that said how would the moves work
jovial cedar
Does Robin’s bow even have any mythological significance?
All I can think of is the fact it’s made of yew 👀
tardy falcon
someone must have brought up odysseus' bow, but that doesn't seem v culturally diverse
lusty barn
The bow is easy to find examples of diverse mythicality (that's a word now, I declare it).
dense sparrow
Guan Yu uses a bow
lusty barn
I would assume Chinese and British examples are out tho.
tardy falcon
and probably greek too
lusty barn
I would assume Greek too yeah. Wouldnt be very exciting
dense sparrow
amaterasu uses a bow, right?
lusty barn
Dunno, but I'd assume they'd continue on in the legendary mortal trend.
marble prawn
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i remember someone on this server was talking about why nyx and hypnos don't interact ;u; well, here's why i guess
frozen jolt
😭
runic terrace
SAME
mighty tinsel
I can't believe Hypnos is literally me
woven wraith
marble prawn
im pretty sure all that was said about it was "gift her until she's maxed out and then keep talking to her"
Hey Highstar, ||assuming you have reached the locked point in her Affinity Gauge, you just have to keep talking to her. She will mention Callisto from time to time as you get to know her better||.
^ this is what greg had to say about artemis
mighty tinsel
@marble prawn hol up they added WHAT?
Is it as hardcore as the original myth, or...?
marble prawn
no clue, she's only mentioned callisto once for me
mighty tinsel
You know what happens with callisto yeah?
marble prawn
the whole bit with zeus right
mighty tinsel
Yuuuuuup
marble prawn
oh christ is this why zeus also has affinity to unlock
mighty tinsel
Yup
Zeus ain't the nicest guy
Specially when he does awful stuff and then makes other people mad and do even worse stuff
@marble prawn sorry for that awful mental image
marble prawn
it's all g, i hope the game doesn't go the same route LMFAo
marble prawn
quick, talk about how cute dusa's new animations are—
mighty tinsel
She wiggle
marble prawn
first time i saw it she was in the lounge and since i got the disco ball it looked like she was dancin
mighty tinsel
Cue Peace and Tranquility
ocean drum
wait dusa can dance by the disco ball?
marble prawn
her animation is her sweepin stuff and since she was chillin in the lounge it just so happened to look like she was dancin
ocean drum
ah
oh so Dusa is the only character that ive given more than one ambrosia to at a time, is there a reason for that?
haughty carbon
well since you are also offering it to fill up the bar cabin I think
ocean drum
i dont think i was at the time D: i think i was just telling her she's doing a good job and that she's appreciated
drifting citrus
there's a reason for it! and it's worth it in the end
ocean drum
alrighty
thankfully i have a stockpile of 17 ambrosias after i gave her the two
i couldnt sleep last night so i just sorta grinded out heat levels 10-17 on the bow and then a few on the fists lol
lusty barn
Are Theseus and asterius considered spoilers?
pallid crag
no
hard fulcrum
I can't seem to get the dialogue to get Excalibur. I have the all sword and spear aspects maxed out. But no dialogue.
frozen jolt
maybe you have a lot of new dialogue with nyx?
if she keeps having new stuff to say every run, you should probably just keep playing
supple dagger
I pop in and I read that Hypnos sleeps enough that Nyx said "fine. you're a big boy now." and the literal possibility of them interacting again means he'll revert back to being a little boy. Lmao
honestly, I can see it.
Especially based on the fact that he "snaps" awake just from walking by him.
whole path
@hard fulcrum do a sword run....it should load up after that...I couldn't just equip the sword and talk to nyx I had to come back
slim pecan
@drifting citrus do tell me the reason cuz I got ||friendzoned||
hard fulcrum
@whole path beat two sword runs and a guan yu run to no avail. I hope it's not a bug as I had sword and spear maxed before the update.
whole path
@hard fulcrum hmmmm this is gonna sound silly......but try just running in and dying? Maybe it reads the triggers different for fails and wins
hard fulcrum
Hmm maybe I will give it a shot
whole path
That's what I did....I equipped the sword started a run stood on a floor trap till I died...and Bam exclamation point
hard fulcrum
I will give it a shot and see if it works
Seemed to work
Got the dialogue
And it only cost me my 32 win streak lol
open berry
Unfortunately the game prioritizes a dozen chunks of story related dialogue over the aspect specific dialogue, which results in players having to either complete runs hoping story convo is over so nyx will finally give the crucial info for the aspect, or just going in and suiciding runs til it happens. it sucks and I hope sgg alters the dialogue weight by full launch. It's easier to give the players the aspect first and then deliver narrative driven dialogue afterwards
fair light
Hey @open berry, thank you for the feedback. The event you're referring to is a priority event for Nyx if you meet the requirements for it, meaning she will bring it up over other eligible events. There may be other priority events queued at the time, but it is unlikely to be more than a small number. We will be keeping an eye on these requirements and event priorities to make sure they make sense.
junior field
does anyone know the steps for reuniting Orpheus and Eurydice? Nyx told me to check out the administrative room while no one's there but I'm not sure what that means. Do I just need to keep doing runs, wait for another dream sequence, or lose to Hades so he's not home after a run?
open berry
whew discord is finally back @fair light I was going to say that given my choices were continuing runs or suiciding my runs to make the process faster, my enthusiasm for arthur aspect was considerably dampened by the time i finally got access to it 12 runs later, so i definitely suggest... keeping an eye on that.
I personally would prefer having the weapon first, especially given the characters are not always in their normal spots after each run. having an rng aspect is fine but it agitates me less when it's related to narrative, as opposed to when it's linked to a weapon aspect, if that makes sense.
thooough when i'm thinking about it, not every player is going to be in a position where they're largely up to date with content as updates come out, so it could be different for, say, someone playing after full launch. i'm not sure.
@junior field if nyx already gave you the position of the contract, the only other thing to do is keep doing runs until the story progresses. that is largely the way anything progresses, when in doubt, do more runs.
fair light
It's important to us to contextualize unique aspects of play in the story, so some of this is a consequence of the Early Access updating process. A new player would discover the Aspect of Arthur in the late game, which is when we intend for the Legendary Aspects to be found. Someone jumping into our new update, eager to play with the new content after having played a ton of the game already, ideally should not have to jump through hoops, though. Thank you for your patience.
burnt harbor
It's just me or does the Administrative chamber door looks 'too 2d' when you open it?
junior field
yeah, it's straight up flat
looks weird, considering doors from Styx to the outside look like normal doors, thick
shadow nebula
does hades have a extreme measures lvl 3 mode?
open berry
extreme measures only affects the furies, bone hydra and theseus/asterius
drifting citrus
though, in the roadmap, it says that there are 3 boss fight variants "with one more to come"
ebon rose
Has anyone figured out the Musician and Muse quest? I still haven't found out how to do it.
shrewd badger
I'm having problem with this as well
progress seems too slow
after almost 20 runs, I didn't exhausted nyx dialogs yet
meanwhile, Orpheus/Eurydice doesn't ask for help or anything
drifting citrus
it's all related to nyx
shrewd badger
hm
drifting citrus
just keep exhausting her dialogues
tall ingot
though, in the roadmap, it says that there are 3 boss fight variants "with one more to come"
@drifting citrus let's fight Cerb 😅
Don't kill me, it's just joke, it's joke.
shadow nebula
how do you unlock arthurs blade? do you have to beat hades again? i
tall ingot
You need Spear 4th aspect and talk to NYX
hollow charm
okay continuing on from fanworks, how wacky modern au version of olympian family would be
marble prawn
👀
hollow charm
we still haven't settled on zeus. zeus....
dusty elbow
definitely ceo of something
hollow charm
he seems like he'd be a very, eh, party-type ceo?
drifting citrus
there's a pin in this channel on how to unlock arthur aspect
dusty elbow
he's definitely the drunk uncle archetype at any rate
digital totem
Zeus is definitely that old school business CEO who (not so) secretly sleeping with all his secretaries
marble prawn
KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS, ZEUS
digital totem
"hold my calls"
dusty elbow
Theseus and Asterius are the two jockiest guys at zag's college. Theseus is as much a blowhard as he is in game. Asterius is a decent guy, if very quiet. no one knows why he keeps hanging out with Theseus.
hollow charm
Hades would go apocalyptic lmao
Omg yes...
Asterius and theseus...
Hypnos is asterius's fan still
digital totem
I like that idea of Zeus poaching zag. Competing family business. Hades putting in all the hard graft whilst Zeus is basically just handed everything
hollow charm
Yeah!
marble prawn
hypnos attends all their games
hollow charm
Hades working hard in his tax agency while zeus is, idk, ceo of some vague company. Stocks maybe
marble prawn
stonks
hollow charm
Hypnos has an asterius t-shirt
digital totem
meg is the senior HR person
hollow charm
Scariest HR person
marble prawn
zag absolutely scores hypnos an autograph
hollow charm
She comes into work in biking leathers bc she rides a motorbike
Omg YEAH and hypnos p much falls over himself when zag gives it to him
marble prawn
m...ms meg 🥺
hollow charm
Meg screams biker chick ok
digital totem
scores hypnos a autograph of Sylvester Stallone Robert De Niro (Raging Bull) lol brainfart on actor name
marble prawn
stress relief: zag joins meg for a too fast motorcycle ride and zag screams his frustrations to the wind
digital totem
Robert De Niro***
marble prawn
somewhere in the distance, hades sneezes
hades: who's talking crap about me
hollow charm
Oh wait we havent covered hermes!
dusty elbow
the first time she takes him out on a motorcycle ride he just screams
she goes v fast
digital totem
tax return, DENIED
digital totem
poseidon just owns a yaught and has boat parties?
hollow charm
I see him as... hmmmm... you know those undersea treasure hunters?
marble prawn
Actual Olympian Hermes (like, athlete)
hollow charm
They survey old wrecks
dusty elbow
Hermes is either a professional athlete or a mailman. either way, very fast. On the hyperactive side of Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder and talks way too fast but he's also a good mate and a good running buddy
hollow charm
Hermes is an olympian athlete who works as a courier part time bc he just enjoys it
dusty elbow
constantly talks with his hands
hollow charm
Tooootally
Out of the olympians i see artemis and hermes clicking with zag the most, with dio as a close second
marble prawn
hermes does the reigen thing with his hands
digital totem
Could it be a running gag that somehow dusa is the cleaner in every single business in the world?
dusty elbow
oh my god, yes
hollow charm
Omg yes
Zag somehow doesnt realise this despite meeting dusa at these various locations
Bc of her initial shyness she doesnt manage to get jt out and he assumes shes like, there to do business
Zag, when they're at zeus's office: wow dusa I didnt know you were into stock markets
Dusa, holding a mop: uh
marble prawn
is this where the classic trope of: oh no i spilled coffee on you im so sorry,
hollow charm
LMAO yeah somehow, someway
Dusa will accidentslly run jnto zag and spill stuff on him
At these different places
dense sparrow
then one day she carries a trash bucket
digital totem
Thanatos just randomly appears and disappears mid meeting or conversation. Like they'll be talking and the camera will cut to Zag saying something and back to where Thanatos was and... oh he's gone
dusty elbow
i really wish there was a realistic way of capturing how she a s c e n d s when flustered other than her running away because that doesn't have quite the same tone
hollow charm
YEAH (to both than and dusa thing)
Thanatos's teleportation can be him just. Being unnervingly good at leaving without anyone noticing
Dusa... yeah she cant. Ascend tk the ceiling. Or she can but it would be weird
dense sparrow
i would think of him as an assassin or sth
digital totem
If we follow on with the Hades is a tax business theme maybe Thanatos can be the one who goes out and conducts the audits
marble prawn
knock knock it is i, death here to collect ur taxes
hollow charm
Or does the investigations into tax deliquency
Or knowing him he tries to do everything and succeeds but is heavily overworked
marble prawn
zag after getting scared by than's sudden appearances for the 5th time: i gotta put a bell on u
hollow charm
Tax collectors require a masters degree at some point too so he'll have that too oof
marble prawn
so. it tolls, whenever he shows up
hollow charm
Fjsudu or its his phone's text tone
digital totem
bell toll genius
marble prawn
than: zag you cannot expect me to wear this
dense sparrow
zag: you must if you wanna date me
digital totem
I know that toll.. the end of the tax year approaches
hollow charm
Even with the bell than manages to startle him
Than just learns how to sneak around the bell like cats do
dusty elbow
stuffs it with cloth so it doesnt ring
hollow charm
Slowly zag just develops some sixth sense he calls his "than-dar"
marble prawn
zag: i thought i told you to wear the bell!!!
than: i am :) (it's stuffed with cloth)^
digital totem
Did anyone come up with a way to get an obnoxious king Theseus into the mix? Could he be like the mayor, or president or something?
dense sparrow
jock
digital totem
ah yeah, that works
hollow charm
Zag butts head with him bc it amuses him to wind theseus up
trail plinth
theseus is too old to be a student
hollow charm
Hypnos would be hades receptionist
trail plinth
make him like the football team coach
hollow charm
Oh hmmm
dense sparrow
theseus is the idiot who have to stay back many years
trail plinth
calls the quarterbacks fiends but lovingly
digital totem
sports coaches are great characters for portaying unearned confidence too
dense sparrow
guard of tax collector
hollow charm
Collectively called cerberus
trail plinth
its Cer and Be and Rus :D
hollow charm
YES
dense sparrow
tax collector use him to track down tax evaders
hollow charm
Galaxy brain
digital totem
Sir Ber and Ross
hollow charm
Zag both hates and loves this stupid pun hades did for their dogs
marble prawn
"here's the papers that were last touched by the target, go sniff em out boy"
maiden coyote
former police dog/dogs?
hollow charm
Ye former k-9 hounds definitely
trail plinth
am I the only one that can see zag as an officer
dense sparrow
zag quitted
trail plinth
and then hades own a huge company but he does Bad Things like the bald guy from spider man
dense sparrow
and went to colleg
hollow charm
Atm i have zag as a uni student trying to wriggle out from hades attempts to drag him jnto the tax business
digital totem
Another running gag is Charon is literally every shop owner. Whenever someone goes to buy something guess who is standing behind the register... berrrrrrrhhhgghhh
marble prawn
cop zag could work in a different modern au, not quite the focus of this one from what im getting tho :0c
atomic forge
I don't see Zagreus as a cop.
dense sparrow
artemis ?
marble prawn
hermes runs deliveries for charon
dense sparrow
what would she do
hollow charm
Artemis would be wildlife vet maybe?
trail plinth
ah i see, my bad, is it more of a romcom?
hollow charm
Ehhhh not a romcom as such, but a lighthearted story of zag just figuring his life out with his family being
dense sparrow
her brother is never home?
atomic forge
Apollo.
dense sparrow
apollo
hollow charm
Apollo is out performing in poetry cafes or smth
hollow charm
Thats his side gig to fuel his extreme poetry lifestyle
dense sparrow
poetic*
digital totem
Can we make Aphrodite Afro-Dite
dense sparrow
no
marble prawn
extreme poetry sounds like one hell of a sport
dense sparrow
thats weird
trail plinth
sorry for cutting the topic, but does anyone knows how to unlock the new eury/orpheus stuff? is it random?
dense sparrow
random it is
trail plinth
ah gods.......thank you
digital totem
shrewmouse can't stop with the bad lanaguage
dense sparrow
jesus, you cannot say shi* in this server
trail plinth
is sisy's contract random too?
digital totem
I hate that bot too
hollow charm
I think... only cerberus poops in the game
marble prawn
i know what im asking sgg if they ever host an ama
digital totem
What could be another fun running gag is having Daedelus as an unseen character. He was a brilliant inventor in his time but hasn't adapted well to the modern era. There are plenty of strange contraptions designed by this mystery inventor and it is constantly befuddling zag.
marble prawn
he makes those fancy disentanglement knicknacks and zag occasionally finds them
stays up all night trying to separate two metal loops from each other
pulsar cypress
hollow charm
The only way to get zag to sit still, trying to figure out those puzzles
hollow charm
Hes very prolific
And elusive
A cryptif
Ceyptif
Omg
CRYPTID
Its almost 2am i think thats a sign i should sleep
digital totem
no time for rest
hollow charm
But i have work in.... 5 hrs... uh oh
digital totem
I have self isolation at home for next 14 days. I guess I still technically have work but....
hollow charm
Alas i still have to go into work. Haven't been told we can work from home bc idk why
Sadness
digital totem
don't forget to put a coin in your mouth
dense sparrow
so Charon dont get mad, yes
rotund moth
Well, I think I'm at a 20% win rate after 500 escape attempts. That's for runs at 15+ Heat.
Still trying to decide if this means I'm bad or not.
ember hazel
both
rotund moth
Pfft.
echo orbit
Ah I found that "disgusting sense of humor" Demeter was talking about with Zeus
"Now there's an awful lot of spoil-sports out here, can't even take a little joke, well I know all of their mothers, fie on all of them I say! Let's joke away!" - Zeus
Zeus...this is why no-one actually likes you
twin flare
Hey all, so I've just talked to nyx about releasing Orpheus from his contract but i accidentally skipped what she told me to do :( anyone lnow what she said? Or how i proceed?
marble prawn
Head into the admin room!
twin flare
Do i have to go after one run? Or right away
marble prawn
Uh I don't remember but it can't hurt to try going in before starting another run
It should be a little sparkle in the back of the room
twin flare
Hmm i dont see it but ill lyk after a run, thanks!
marble prawn
Nfndndj hope it works
distant pike
ok so if Thanatos is Nyx's son and Zagreus thought he was her son also, then both of them were on what they thought to be an incestuous relationship?
atomic forge
Zagreus knew before the game started that he was not related to Than or any of Nyx's sons or daughters (Meg is "adopted" and not related by blood to any cast member present).
ember hazel
granite cradle
one moment, please remember your talking greek mythology, Hera is Zeus's sister, there is nothing more incestuous then the greek deity family tree
atomic forge
It's also been written out of the game and as a conversation subject here is highly discouraged.
granite cradle
sorry, hadn't gotten that yet,
fierce kernel
oh i didn't know that Zag previously thinking that Thanatos and Hypnos were also his bros was written out
atomic forge
It was never even really a conversation topic unless I'm remember incorrectly (I might be, it's been a while).
fierce kernel
it's definitely been a while but i feel like back when I first started playing (back when hydra was the final boss) it came up now and then
atomic forge
I was referring to the extended Olympian family too, my fault for not being specific, but thanks all the same.
drifting citrus
back before relationships were implemented, than and zag were written as such, but sgg rewrote their story so any implications of which were left out
twin flare
It didn't work, i can't find anything in the records room for Orpheus :(
dusty elbow
I think you need to keep talking to nyx until she mentions a specific sub-section in the records room so zag can find it because that place is a death trap of scrolls
twin flare
I talked to her once and she said that i may have a hypothetical power to release the contract