#h1-story-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 138

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 1:00 AM

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You gotta sleep

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 1:00 AM

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in the room

golden ether Mar 13, 2020, 1:00 AM

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i've tried and zag says he's not tired

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 1:00 AM

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damn no clue then

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 1:00 AM

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oh

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it says on the top left corner when you can rest to progress that

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so idk

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and zag says he could rest as well

golden ether Mar 13, 2020, 1:04 AM

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unrelated to that, i have a few things in the codex that are undiscovered and i dont know what they are?

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whatever's under chaos in "the underworld" tab, as well as whatever's at the bottom of the list with all the currencies in it

signal palm Mar 13, 2020, 1:05 AM

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erebus and the onion

golden ether Mar 13, 2020, 1:05 AM

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how do you get those things?

signal palm Mar 13, 2020, 1:05 AM

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those are the 5 10 15 heat gates

golden ether Mar 13, 2020, 1:05 AM

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oh okay

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how do you get the onion then

signal palm Mar 13, 2020, 1:06 AM

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you get the onion by failing in erebus

golden ether Mar 13, 2020, 1:06 AM

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oh okay

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cool time to start playing on 5 heat lol

summer geyser Mar 13, 2020, 1:10 AM

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8888 Darkness to fix the portal for Nyx, oh god

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This is going to take a while

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 1:10 AM

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nah

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it goes in a flash

odd pike Mar 13, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Can someone tell me if the new sword aspect's special is also the same circular thing that the other aspects have or not?

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Yes, but it also spawns a glyph inside which you are more resilient and enemies are slowed

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It's also super wide

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Very efficient

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The aspect is totally worth it imo

indigo cipher Mar 13, 2020, 1:34 AM

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It also slows projectiles like that one duo boon

topaz fog Mar 13, 2020, 1:38 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/204796079911337985/687833138973507584/2020-03-12-192634_1600x900_scrot.png

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 1:40 AM

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i can only imagine the crit damage on that

topaz fog Mar 13, 2020, 1:42 AM

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me too

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i have no idea what it was

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i couldn't see anything with all the effects ¯_(ツ)_/¯

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 1:45 AM

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chaos never gives me anything other than more money% or special damage%

viscid fjord Mar 13, 2020, 1:48 AM

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what heats do you guys pick for 16 heat?

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im thinking of doing the invulnerability ones cause the fist can hit so fast

topaz fog Mar 13, 2020, 1:58 AM

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not a bad idae

short cradle Mar 13, 2020, 2:16 AM

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how many time can i upgrade a weapon aspect before it's max ?

atomic forge Mar 13, 2020, 2:17 AM

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All Aspects go to level 5.

short cradle Mar 13, 2020, 2:17 AM

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ty

supple dagger Mar 13, 2020, 2:21 AM

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I think part of this was because of the Pact of Punishment, but I just got a tiny new room in Asphodel that was filled with 10 Liner Brimestones... which was not good becuase I had Aspect of Arthur on me...

quartz ingot Mar 13, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Hey guys, do you get Excalibur from Nyx? She seems to be eluding me for the past few runs

clever fern Mar 13, 2020, 2:36 AM

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https://imgur.com/3QUkk4C
already max out

Imgur

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its seem like you have to trigger something first to get

marble prawn Mar 13, 2020, 2:42 AM

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@quartz ingot check pins on this server, I believe you need at least 5 titan blood invested in the sword

If you've checked all of that criteria off then all you can do is wait for nyx to talk about it

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Also does anyone know what the tags on the companions mean? e.g. https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/hades_gamepedia_en/5/55/Mort.png?version=ee098c4be91d6b8969bca3a43f044c5f

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CC (heart)
B

deep spoke Mar 13, 2020, 2:47 AM

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🅱️one

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kidding, I have no idea

summer geyser Mar 13, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Nyx finally told me about the Orpheus file

thorn compass Mar 13, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Mort(is)

marble prawn Mar 13, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I know they're Greek symbols like battie has alpha, mort has beta etc etc

But what does the CC and the heart mean??¿

thorn compass Mar 13, 2020, 2:50 AM

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~~Chthonic Companions~~

thorn hare Mar 13, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Orpheus file?

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Do you mean the solitary confinement one?

summer geyser Mar 13, 2020, 2:56 AM

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The thing to progress with his story

drifting citrus Mar 13, 2020, 2:56 AM

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cthonic companion and the heart probably just symbolizes the deep bond you have

deep spoke Mar 13, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Oooo

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That makes sense

marble prawn Mar 13, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Ohhhh that would make sense

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Case closed until further notice, thanks y'all

supple dagger Mar 13, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Do I need to speak with Eurydice first before I can go into the Aminstrative Hall and do the thing?

marble prawn Mar 13, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Uh I think the administrative hall requires you go to sleep and trigger a flashback cutscene

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Then you can speak to the contractor

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You'll know when to sleep bc the game will prompt you much like it did for the flashback about Persephone

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Hey wait a minute, before I even try, is there some witty mid-battle dialogue if I try to use Battie against Megaera?

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Don't think you can use Meg against herself

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Otherwise it might get...way into "Why you hitting yourself, Meg?" territory

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I mean yeah that makes sense. Stuff like trying to use Thanatos against Megaera or Dusa against Hades. I just want to know if it just tells you "Summon Unavailable" or if there's dialogue just after lol

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 4:12 AM

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well I think there might be commentary

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I know some things actually trigger comments from bosses which is neat

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welp, just got the fishing bounty from Poseidon lol

lament flint Mar 13, 2020, 4:16 AM

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It says summon unaivalable if you use battie against meg

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Nothing else?

lament flint Mar 13, 2020, 4:31 AM

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I haven't tried again

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Maybe something can be triggered

tall harbor Mar 13, 2020, 4:37 AM

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how to unlock that fist weapon?

primal cipher Mar 13, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Does anyone know how many diamonds it costs the reunite the musicians? I've taken the contract from the room but than Zag said that it may take a while to appear in the contractors shop

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And I only currently have one diamond

atomic forge Mar 13, 2020, 5:01 AM

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I don't know. I haven't had the contract show up yet that allows Euridice and Orpheus to be reunited

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 5:07 AM

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the gauntlets are fun lol

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Just did a run with gauntlets and Athena deflect on attack

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 5:08 AM

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what do we need to do in order to get the musicians reunited?

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so far all i have is the room to all the scrolls and stuff opened but nothing's showing up in there to go farther and both of them have full hearts before the next one is locked

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 5:10 AM

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@primal cipher 5

atomic forge Mar 13, 2020, 5:11 AM

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OH MY GOSH! I JUST hit the dialogue where zag asks about zeus and hades settling their differences, and zeus suggests that they should claim that zag is zeus's son and not hades, which in proper greek myth, zagreus is the son of zeus and persephone.

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I was just like WHAT A FANTASTIC EASTER EGG

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 5:11 AM

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have you gotten the one where Dio says they should pull a prank on Orpheus?

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 5:12 AM

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or the one where Meg growls that Than is helping Zag before her boss battle?

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 5:13 AM

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oh i just got that one a couple hours ago lol

atomic forge Mar 13, 2020, 5:13 AM

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I've gotten a lot of the unique dialogues about a lot of stuff

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I've got the song where zag is the son of dionysus already

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 5:14 AM

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okay ya

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 5:14 AM

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It's basically Meg getting irrate that her boyfriend's other boyfriend is making her job of punishing her boyfriend back into the House

atomic forge Mar 13, 2020, 5:14 AM

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I've actually maxed out the Meg and Than relationships

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 5:14 AM

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wait are than and meg dating?

atomic forge Mar 13, 2020, 5:14 AM

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and sisyphus, and am working on dusa's now

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 5:14 AM

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No, but they both can date Zag

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 5:14 AM

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valid

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Zag is Meg's boyfriend, Than is Zag's "other boyfriend"

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 5:15 AM

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i honestly just maxed out achilles, than, and the musicians with nectars and now im giving things to everyone else now that i have the main ones i wanted lol

atomic forge Mar 13, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I'm actually nearly maxed out on basic nectar to most everyone actually

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 5:16 AM

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hell ya

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i was like "eh i dont really care about them" and have just been trading everything for titan bloods but now that i have 17 titan bloods and all of my weapons are maxed out on the aspects that i want im gonna actually start buying things from the contractor and giving nectars to people which i probs shouldve done earlier lol

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also i love that there's a disco ball you can put up in the house

dawn crater Mar 13, 2020, 5:32 AM

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waitWHAT

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YOCANDOTUHEUnintelligable madness That's cool

lime marsh Mar 13, 2020, 5:44 AM

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I beat the 32 heat run

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it took me 210 tries

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but I finally did it

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 6:09 AM

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what's the max heat you can get?

restive elk Mar 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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like 50-something?

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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so im a fifth of the way there with the gloves... and those are my best so far lol

restive elk Mar 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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well the implications are that bounties are ending after 20 heat in normal mode and 25 in hell mode. For 32 you get the last statue, and further is only pain in huge supply.

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 6:34 AM

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ah

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do the statues give anything other than just looking cool?

frozen jolt Mar 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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bragging rights :’)

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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valid

frozen jolt Mar 13, 2020, 6:37 AM

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maybe they’ll be achievements in the future

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Honestly I’m scared for the achievements in this game, I’m not THAT good at this game but I want that 100% blurryeyes

restive elk Mar 13, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Honestly, I'm getting enough blood to have atleast 2 aspects on each weapon, and back to 0 heat I go, cuz NO. I'm not doing 32.

ocean drum Mar 13, 2020, 6:45 AM

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valid

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also im excited for achievements cause it'll give me even more random stuff to do 😄

trail plinth Mar 13, 2020, 6:54 AM

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so, are there any theories of what the hole in the admin chamber might be?

spiral pond Mar 13, 2020, 6:55 AM

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what are admin chambers

pliant hinge Mar 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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I had the Sisyphus contract available to purchase, but now it's gone. Do I need to further the relationship more with others? Not sure if I got bugged or just not there yet

trail plinth Mar 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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@spiral pond the administrative chamber

spiral pond Mar 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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oh the i lost my job chamber

restive elk Mar 13, 2020, 6:57 AM

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I think it pretty clear, about the hole. It's a portal For Hades to travel around the Underworld.

pine yarrow Mar 13, 2020, 6:57 AM

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Wait real quick, do you get the side stories finished by ranking up your friendship with them or through things like the new room?

restive elk Mar 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Some are done without the new chamber, all Shade-related questions are made to use the new room.

viral vortex Mar 13, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Can you have a platonic relationship with one of the suitors when youre in a romantic one with a different one?

trail plinth Mar 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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you can have a romantic one with both

flat shell Mar 13, 2020, 7:07 AM

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But also yes you can turn them down at the final cutscene if you want. The choice is your's and they won't be mad either way.

trail plinth Mar 13, 2020, 7:08 AM

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ahh yes, that makes more sense with the question given, sorry shadeembarassed

flat shell Mar 13, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Nah, you're good, most people ask that as a follow up anyways.

viral vortex Mar 13, 2020, 7:13 AM

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But if you give them gifts they view it as romantic, right?
Its just the fade to black scene youre missing out on if you ease off at the last moment

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Meg and Than sort of yeah, they get the feeling it's more romance thing you doing.

prisma field Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 AM

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hello! i have a question about a small event
i heard there's a set of scenes where hermes says the other olympians don't know he's helping; then supposedly zagreus can tell charon this, who gets angry. is there some kind of bond level i should be at with the two for this to trigger or is it just random chance...?

flat shell Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 AM

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It's an amount of Nectar with both Charon and Hermes, though I can't tell you how high.

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(sorta maxed those two pretty fast so it all just went in a stream)

prisma field Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 AM

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okay thank you! i maxed charon's bond first, and was tossing nectar at hermes at high speed. glad to know i was on the right track

prime swallow Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 AM

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at high speed

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hermes

prisma field Mar 13, 2020, 7:22 AM

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ajfingerguns

viral vortex Mar 13, 2020, 7:22 AM

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I see, thank you!

lunar ibex Mar 13, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Yeah on normal mode it makes more sense to start practicing 32 heat after 20 heat instead of doing 21-31

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oops I did it again.... commenting on an old thread of conversation

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Sssooooo do you have to do a run before Orpheus's contract becomes visible, or is it supposed to be immediately?

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I mean after acquiring it from the room

restive elk Mar 13, 2020, 8:08 AM

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It was instantly visible for me.

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But making a quick run to kick the game to the shins is not a bad idea too.

spiral pond Mar 13, 2020, 9:07 AM

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is it just me or the very on cerberus' wiki has increased more veries than before becuase i remembered there were only 3

thorn compass Mar 13, 2020, 9:17 AM

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wanna hear something cursed?

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what if the faces on Chaos/Nyx's family are actually a part of their bodies i.e Hypnos' belly button face

restive elk Mar 13, 2020, 9:18 AM

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You not really giving a choice looking at "the typing bar"

thorn compass Mar 13, 2020, 9:19 AM

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couldn't help myself

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Just bought a couple of things from the contractor, Zagreus just said "It'll take some time before Orpheus's contract will show up."

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If that ain't word for word, then basically that.

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:33 AM

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Hades: "The price for that is well beyond your means!"
Me: "Hmmmmmmmmm"

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Zagreus: "In the name of Hades-"

restive elk Mar 13, 2020, 10:34 AM

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saaaaaaaaameeeeee shadesmile

lunar ibex Mar 13, 2020, 10:42 AM

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How do you reunite orpheus and eurydice

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I don't have any new dialogue options for either of them and no option to gift anything more

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my guess is they added another level on the lure

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lyre

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 10:44 AM

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Get admin room open.
Talk to nyx.
Get the papers in the admin room.
Wait for contractor to give you an option to buy out.
Wait

lunar ibex Mar 13, 2020, 10:45 AM

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You get the papers in the little dream sequence?

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 10:46 AM

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No. When outside of that in the admin room

lunar ibex Mar 13, 2020, 10:47 AM

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I either already got them or they never appear

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 10:47 AM

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i'll have everyone know hat romancing both meg and thanatos at the same time while they are clearly each under the assumption that you want to be exclusive is a scumbag move

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 10:50 AM

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If you romance them both, they know of it and fine with that, with the other actually letting know they are already in romance.

lunar ibex Mar 13, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Yeah they are chill with it

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Either my game is bugged or my rng is terrible surrounding this event

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 11:11 AM

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there is dialogue for that ?

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cool

marble prawn Mar 13, 2020, 11:11 AM

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yep! i romanced thanatos after romancing meg and zagreus explicitly brings it up with thanatos, asking if thanatos is ok with him being in a relationship with meg

to which thanatos says that meg was the one who convinced him to go speak to zagreus in the first place.

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there's also a tidbit where they're both in the lounge and they amicably greet you haha

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hooray for healthy polyamorous relationships

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 11:15 AM

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I'm not sure if they're all that healthy aha

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what with killing each other relentlessly over and over again

keen pasture Mar 13, 2020, 11:16 AM

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sorry for asking something so far from the current discussion but how do you unlock the locked weapon aspects?

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 11:17 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/521035166471159828/687028512326156288

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Greg talked about it.

keen pasture Mar 13, 2020, 11:18 AM

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so unlocking the spear one is investing enough blood on spear aspects?

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 11:19 AM

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No on blade aspects

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5 titan blood to be exact

keen pasture Mar 13, 2020, 11:19 AM

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oh, thanks!

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 11:19 AM

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you do need the spear though

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Yeah you do need guan yu aspect unlocked

fringe void Mar 13, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Hello all, bit of a question here, Orpheus, I bought the contract that allows him to go see his muse, but the prophecy is unfulfilled and he hasn't returned.

Since I did it I have even passed the muse and he wasn't there. Am I missing something?

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Also, I can't seem to get to finish SIsyphus' favour, I have talked to Meg and Him about it, but hades never mentions it, nyx never mentions it, and I can't seem to move forward on that

lament flint Mar 13, 2020, 11:48 AM

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For sisyphus you have to buy his contract from the contractor

lunar ibex Mar 13, 2020, 11:58 AM

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I can't even unlock the contract to allow orpheus to leave

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i'm 20+ runs into the new patch, have 2 items left to buy from the contractor, have no more gift options for either orph or eury

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have checked the admin room costantly

fringe void Mar 13, 2020, 12:07 PM

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For Sisyphus, the contract hasn't appeared, otherwise I wouldn't be here. What specific Steps do I need to take for it to appear?

And for Orpheus, I talked to Nyx, she was all like "Here is where his contract is in the admin room", so I got it, which sent it to the contractor. I bought the contract from the contractor. He then Orpheus was all like "Oh I should go see Euridice". And Zagreus is all like "Totes mate, go take a break and see her".
Hades even had a go at me for buying it.

But after like 8 runs, he still hasn't appeared back at the house and whenever I see Euridice she just chats like normal, no Orpheus, nothing

lunar ibex Mar 13, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Check the wiki, i know the steps for sisy are there

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I reunited Nyx with chaos but I don't think she ever has talked about orph's contract

fringe void Mar 13, 2020, 12:13 PM

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See I have no idea how to reunite them, do you just keep talking? I've heard that shes the one who helps you unlock Aspect of Arthur, no idea how I'm meant to get her to do that!

And with Sisyphus, it just says
Talk to Sisyphus about the sentence DONE
Talk to Meg about the sentence DONE
Talk to Hades about the sentence NOT DONE (because he won't talk about anything, do I need to get his hearts up too?)

lunar ibex Mar 13, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Check the pinned messages for arthur

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in this channel

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its the first one

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you might need to get his hearts up, or you might need to just keep dying until his dialogue event happens

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take of dds and keep dying to speed up the process

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but check the wiki to make sure you havent missed something

fringe void Mar 13, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Cheers mate

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Bah, "having invested a certain amount of Titan Blood into Blade aspects". Does that mean unlocking all of the aspects, or does it mean level 1 aspect up completely, or just spend a certain amount across the 3 aspects? Gah! I love this game, but it certainly is all about chance and trial, even with the story elements.

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Also, literally Orpheus just showed up with Euridice, so like, speak of the devil and he shall appear?

lunar ibex Mar 13, 2020, 12:56 PM

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people have been throwing around the number 5 for titans blood in sword

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just throw it all in zag aspect

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This run. I could almost build up enough charge while athena call was up to use the next call right after: https://imgur.com/QKLj5Xh

Imgur

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Wow, complaining to the discord really does work. Finally nyx gives me the dialogue for orpheus

vague stratus Mar 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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I had Sysiphus in the shop and the patch deleted it lol

fringe void Mar 13, 2020, 1:53 PM

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130 clears?! Jesus, I'm on 2 :S 55 runs, I think abour 35 of them reach Hades, and then his 2nd phase destroys me.

slim pecan Mar 13, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Are you using a full call on phase 2?

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It's not that useful on P1 cuz of the immune summons so you can keep it at 75 on P1 and use the full on p2 to rush it

restive elk Mar 13, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Hades part 2 is mostly about 3 things : Dont get full bongo concert played on your bum, Dont get Lazer'd, Do damage before one/both things prior happen to you.

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Also a good Idea to train yourself with I-framing the Sweep.

dense sparrow Mar 13, 2020, 2:00 PM

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just athena call and mindlessly punch works though

lunar kiln Mar 13, 2020, 2:16 PM

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it's possible to beat hades without using your move keys

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wont tell you how though

prime swallow Mar 13, 2020, 2:16 PM

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rebind your move keys

dense sparrow Mar 13, 2020, 2:17 PM

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shield dash shield dash shield dash

lunar kiln Mar 13, 2020, 2:17 PM

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it involves the fists

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no dash either

prime swallow Mar 13, 2020, 2:17 PM

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shield dash means u can't jump across ledges

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sometimes meaning softlock

lunar kiln Mar 13, 2020, 2:17 PM

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i meant hades the boss

prime swallow Mar 13, 2020, 2:17 PM

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oof

dense sparrow Mar 13, 2020, 2:18 PM

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then shield dash all the way

lunar kiln Mar 13, 2020, 2:19 PM

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no shield

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just the fists

summer geyser Mar 13, 2020, 2:20 PM

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rush kick

crimson haven Mar 13, 2020, 2:21 PM

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i wonder how Zagreus dies at the end after killing hades

summer geyser Mar 13, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I wonder how Persephone looks

dense sparrow Mar 13, 2020, 2:22 PM

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demeter but greener and younger, i guess

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 2:48 PM

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i wonder how Zagreus dies at the end after killing hades
@crimson haven there's a hole in the ground zag steps on it breaks his pinkie and is unable to move, he stays there ''for all eternity''... until a wretch decides to bring him back to the house of Hades

hollow charm Mar 13, 2020, 2:49 PM

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someone continuously booby traps the exit and zag falls for it every time

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 2:49 PM

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yup

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and when the full game comes out the Contractor will have the ''Fix the hole at the exit'' for 100 diamonds lol

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and that is the end of the so called underworld renovations

hollow charm Mar 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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100 diamonds to bribe the narrator to stop killing zag at the end

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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good point

daring rune Mar 13, 2020, 3:02 PM

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how do you unlock the arthur aspect of the sword?

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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there's pinned message on this channel

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they can explain better than me lol

daring rune Mar 13, 2020, 3:12 PM

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ty

dense jay Mar 13, 2020, 3:39 PM

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after the Artemis + Zeus interaction, is there anything specific that has to be done to unlock their hearts level or just gotta keep getting their boons until another event triggers?

spiral pond Mar 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/163296643632988160/688050768229433363/unknown.png

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aint nothing like a H U N T I N G B L A D E S

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I feel like they buffed Ares this patch too? i remembered the blades dont go through enemies as fast as before to do some real damage, but it is still the least favored cast for me if used alone

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or fighting against boss

sweet oar Mar 13, 2020, 4:14 PM

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So, I'm doing the Orpheus quest, and Nix told me I can look up his records in the Administration Room, but to choose my time carefully. Initially, I was thinking that means "lose to Hades in the final battle so he doesn't show up in the house," but I can't really imagine Supergiant saying "please lose to advance this quest." So I guess I have two questions for anyone that knows:

Does losing to Hades advance the quest?
or 2. Or is it a progression that will just unlock with time/doing more runs?

tight flare Mar 13, 2020, 4:23 PM

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One thing I'm sure is: this game almost never put you in a situation where you'll lock yourself out of something

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I mean, if the Fates put it in a prophecy, it must eventually become reality.

sweet oar Mar 13, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Yeah, I figured as much (although they have been bugged before). I was just thinking if that is the way to advance it, I'd do it next run, and if it's not, then it'd be good not to "waste" a run taking the intentional loss there.

winged hazel Mar 13, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Man the little descriptions of how Zag dies upon a successful escape are a nice touch

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I can just imagine Zagreus walking out of the underworld after killing Hades, just to slip on a banana peel and go through a kind of Rube-Goldberg machine and die at the end

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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He stumbles all the way through the underworld, back into the pool again, Looney Tunes style

timber obsidian Mar 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I really would like to see a way to take cerberus for a walk or ride him

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like some bizarre WoW mount

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Who's guarding the door while Cerberus is downstairs ?

lunar kiln Mar 13, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Cerberus

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he's just very fast

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Cerberus goes upstairs in under 3 minutes

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through secret dog door

west tundra Mar 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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god I love concentrated knuckle

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wrong channel

oak mango Mar 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Hey quick question y'all
I have not gotten to Hades in a looong time
Since when does he have a second phase?

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Has he always had it?

lunar kiln Mar 13, 2020, 5:19 PM

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yeah

oak mango Mar 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Dang
I'm rusty as hell, then

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Ty

gilded grove Mar 13, 2020, 5:24 PM

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ahahaha

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https://i.imgur.com/6QhMbTD.jpg

Imgur

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okay this got me good

primal cipher Mar 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Does anyone know how to further your relationship with Zeus and Artemis?

gilded grove Mar 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Just give them nectar, no?

primal cipher Mar 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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But past the new lock

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I've been using them a lot and equipping their keepsakes. Aside from just more runs I'm not sure what to do

halcyon willow Mar 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/6QhMbTD.jpg
@gilded grove also loved the outcome of this prank (and Zagreus' reaction)

Imgur

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Okay, I have finished the OrpheusXEurydice quest, the NyxChaosRenuion quest.

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have anyone unlocked Artemis's bond and Zues' bond yet?

brazen silo Mar 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Wait, how do you trigger those quests

winged hazel Mar 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Yeah the whole Zagreus Dionysus joke is great

brazen silo Mar 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I’m max with eury and it hasnt happened yet

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I think just by maxing out relationship with those?>

winged hazel Mar 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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The fact they composed a whole track for it is even better

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@sweet oar well, when I unlocked Orpheus contract in the administration room, Hades is not present.

frozen jolt Mar 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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the prank quest? try equipping dionysus' keepsake, it triggers when you talk to him first in a run, i think

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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But I can buy that contract later in the contractor's shop with 5 gems, while Hades is sitting right there being confounded.

sweet oar Mar 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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lmfao, good to know, thanks

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Just speak to Nyx, she would tell you the exact contract and you can walk into the admin room to retrieve it

sweet oar Mar 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I actually just found the contract in the room, weirdly enough. Like, within the last minute

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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With or without Hades sitting there?

sweet oar Mar 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Then Zag said it should be with the contractor, but it wasn't, so I imagine I have to do another run

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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yeah

sweet oar Mar 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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With him sitting there, so it looks to be there isn't a requirement for him being away

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Cool. Good to know

sweet oar Mar 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I actually threw my last run in asphodel too, because I hated my setup and wanted to restart, so it worked out pretty well

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 5:54 PM

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There's a nice touch on Meg's "private conversation" talk now lol. You would see a heart on her speak bubble.

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But why can't I woohoo with Than yet?!

uncut ibex Mar 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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ive bought the orpheus and euridice thing from the renovator and all that and orpheus has gone off to meet euridice but when i got to euridice in the next run he wasnt there, is it random?

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:35 PM

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hol up is nyx a goddess or a titan

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chaos calls her a goddess but i was under the impression that she was a titan that defied the olympians

terse plover Mar 13, 2020, 6:36 PM

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she's a goddess, but I think she may have come before the olympians?

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:36 PM

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yeah i think so

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i feel like in myth shes a titan but i can't remember...

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Iirc the personification deities (nyx, chaos, Hypnos, thanatos, Erebus, etc) are separate from and older than titans as well as olympians

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But I could be wrong, I just know they don’t fall into either camp

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:42 PM

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ah

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that makes sense

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are they called incarnations also?

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Yeah, personifications/incarnations of abstractions basically

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:43 PM

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interesting

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Like she’s not the goddess of night, she IS night

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:43 PM

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hm. so why would nyx's parent refer to her as a goddess?

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:43 PM

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(But when being personified you may call her as much)

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:43 PM

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ah

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Probably because those older beings consider themselves to be the OG if I had to guess

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Olympians cast down the titans but notice how hades didn’t get rid of that group, not sure if he could and keep things functioning

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Not even clear they have any power over them or vice versa

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:45 PM

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before this update nyx's dialogue with hades was different and it implied that she defied him and he defeated her, but spared her under the condition that she work with him

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now it seems like its more like nyx was lazy and hades stepped in and it was mutaulism

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*mutualism

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Hah

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:45 PM

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thats my impression at least lol

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Tbf it may be different in game where they’re all humanized, like zag and than being raised together... when was literal death “born”? Lol

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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hmm thats an interesting point

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cause there's a picture with than meg and zag as kids so like

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Mhmm

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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what happened before they were born?

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ig maybe its like

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Yeah, did no one die prior? Was there a different entity?

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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there wasn't a god with that dominion before

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but the thing they represent/are in charge of still existed

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like people had blood before zag was born prolly

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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The trick is I think the game may treat them as the gods of x, whereas in myth they are a personification of the abstract concept of x

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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tho sometimes maybe they got replaced

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like selene and artemis and helio and apollo?

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Like Thanatos is the one who carries out death but really he just is death

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Mm maybe

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Kid-Than, why can I imagine him walking around with Mort and Zag, glowering at the shades who tell him to smile

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:50 PM

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precious little edgy baby

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:50 PM

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(while dragging a sleeping Hypnos behind him)

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:51 PM

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oh my i just realized poor hypnos was excluded from that picture :(

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:51 PM

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He slept through the making of it

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:51 PM

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That...is probably true

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It's not so much as headcanon as "Well it's Hypnos, what'd you expect?"

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:51 PM

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wonder what baby alecto and tiss were like

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Mhmm lol

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Alecto probably was the sister bully

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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lol

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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So not much actually changed

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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i'd like to think tiss didn't get reduced to saying murder beforehand

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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I wanna know what tiss was like before being warped by her job

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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tho it would be really fascinating arc to learn what happened

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Tisiphone probably liked to make puns

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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awwww that makes it so much worse

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😔

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rip tiss

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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I'd actually not mind if Tisiphone threw a wrench in the monotony of the escapes

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by speaking a full sentence

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and making a Hades pun

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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i wonder if she's even capabale of it

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Honestly that would terrify me at this point

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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or meg's right and she's been reduced to like a husk

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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If you used batty against her and she had actual dialogue briefly with meg I would cry

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Well the thing about Meg's perspective is that she may have just given up on trying to reach Tisiphone

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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thats true

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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They're all basically work-oriented people

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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id love to learn more about the sisters but they don't show up in the lounge (yet?)

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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much to the detriment of their relationship

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Wonder if tis has met than, speaking of “MMMMMUUURDERRRRR”

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Alecto got banned from the lounge

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for severe insubordination

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:55 PM

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yeah, im just saying that idk is sgg plans to include them in the lounge in the future

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I imagine tis would try to punish too many people who live in the house lol

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Or she'd just make dog puns

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:55 PM

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or they'll just be bosses we beat and learn stuff from a la the codex

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Yeah I’d like to know more

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:55 PM

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and make Cerberus sad

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I wonder if it'd be a good bet to guess that Alecto mentioned something about Persephone

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then kept on hammering a point

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Ooh, or kept prodding with regard to zag’s red blood

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Because I mean if Zag could possibly get away with half the crap that he does and not get kicked out, it'd take something REAL:LY bad to get the boot

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or or or

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threw a tantrum

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she wanted to be in the relationship with Zag

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Oh nooooo

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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We know that Hades pushed Zag and Meg together

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either Alecto didn't want Zag with her sister

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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I could see it, she does kinda tease him and seems forced with some of her smack talk

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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or she just wanted Zag herself

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Possibly because he'd be a fun "diversionary experiment"

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Tangent: the foot end of the bed would never be cold thanks to zag, I can’t blame anyone that sounds great

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Zag sleeps?

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Once or twice lol

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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well he never sits

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Other things are done in beds

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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i do wonder if thats like an inside joke tho

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oH

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Could you imagine giving him a footsie? No wonder Than and Meg are the only ones who could date him

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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But you do have two story beats where you seem to dream

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God yeah lol

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:00 PM

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"Sorry I stepped on your foot Zag :("

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"Sorry my feet disintegrated yours, Than :("

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"I float. Shrug"

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"Showoff"

runic terrace Mar 13, 2020, 7:00 PM

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zag when he gets to the surface and discovers things like grass and wood floors: oh no

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:00 PM

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if you cast while in the house he does spinsies

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i think

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maybe they patched that out

runic terrace Mar 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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i think they did zagpensive

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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awww

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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that would be awful for Zag 😦

haughty carbon Mar 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Zag, seeing a new thing from outside: guess this will kill me.

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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"Sorry mom, I set your house on fire ;-;"

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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the narrator is just sparing zag from more pain

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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"I blame Dad."

runic terrace Mar 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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zag starts a fire and then uses poseidon boons on it

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ITS OKAY (uses poseidon cast) YOUR HOUSE STOPPED BURNING

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Then Poseidon sees Persephone and freaks out, causing the Olympians to go into an uproar. Then Demeter happens.

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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What if grandma made it cold and snowy so we could walk on the surface more safely

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Arendelle has nothing on what Demeter would do to the world

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well it is technically an unending winter on the mortal world

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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i really love how sgg took demeter and made her a semi-winter goddess

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i was like "haha shes just plant goddess"

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Blame Demeter

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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and then got surprised with the creativity

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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and technically that is her domain

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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It works well when you make her that angry

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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she did cause the world to go icy

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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maybe thats why there's a war going on

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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It's also a clever tie-in to Persephone being missing

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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the long winter is eating at resources

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Oh probably, resource war

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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when Persephone is MIA, Demeter pulls an Elsa

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Yeah, that

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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When she has Persephone in her grasp like an old Mother Gothel, then she's happy and springtime

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Someone could literally rewrite the movie Tangled with a Frozen crossover

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and you could have Demeter and Persephone's relationship

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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i think theres a fairly popular theory that elsa and rapunzul are sisters or something

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and tarzan

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Probably more close to cousins

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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and ig anna too

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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and the Tarzan one was debunked

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by the second Frozen movie

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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was it really?

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well then

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:05 PM

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They never landed on any land, they died in the sea

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the Tangled/Frozen thing might also be connected but it's hard to know if they're related or if Rapunzel is just visiting as a dignitary of Corona. Then again, Disney is fond of easter eggs.

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but yeah, Demeter/Persephone is Mother Gothel/Rapunzel in Greek mythology

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Then when Mother Gothelmeter gets angry, she makes an ice palace for one and ices the world.

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it's also why I kinda feel uncomfortable with Demeter when she calls Zag "Little Sprout"

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It just seems condensending in a way

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everything is below her notice and she frankly doesn't care much for anything that isn't a part of her design

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:08 PM

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that green ribbon is a nice touch i must say

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:08 PM

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(although I wonder if part of that is linked to the fact that she fell in love with a mortal"

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Goddess falls in love with a mortal and has a daughter. MOrtal dies. Mother Issues Intensify

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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persephone or demeter?

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Demeter

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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ah

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Flatout says that Persephone's father was mortal

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So at some point, she wasn't a mortal glowering Imperial Ice Mage

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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maybe her cornucopia was full

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with food

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seduction via snacks

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Actually she wouldn't have been that distraught over everything had it just been seduction tbh

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I think Demeter is literally the emotional backlash of what happens when an immortal being falls for something less...resilient to the ebb of time

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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mayhaps shes's just really insecure

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Her beloved dies, she clings to Persephone as the only thing that matters to her since she's the last piece of her love

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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her voice noticeably changes at the implication that persephone willingly left her

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Yeah, still fits

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the fact that someone who is a symbol of the love she had

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is WILLINGLY leaving her?

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She might read that as "Your love is DEAD"

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and as natural for the Greek gods, if something irritates you...make everything in the world suffer for it

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Basically Demeter is extrodinarily unnerving to me

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Nyx is best grandma by comparison

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and from what I read from her lines with Thanatos and Zag

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Zag's escape is a part of the Fates plan

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and everyone, including Than, plays their part

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:14 PM

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i thought hades was the one who was manipulating zag and the fates were just having fun

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Maybe both

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Well the Fates manipulate everything

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:14 PM

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true

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:14 PM

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that's kinda their whole gig

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They're ALL manipulating Zag

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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I’m just imagining the Fates sitting wherever they are like “yooooooo you know what’d be hilarious?”

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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"Than falling for Zag?"

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"...Stop shipping our brother with his friend Clotho."

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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“Aww”

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Well technically we are the fates
We and supergiant

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:16 PM

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"What about Zag dying to a very snuggly arctic fox?"

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"....Atropos, that is highly specific of a death"

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:16 PM

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“Well he needs to get sent back somehow”

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:16 PM

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"Lets have Than bring him back with an offer to cook dinner for him."

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"....CLOTHO, NO."

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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“CLOTHO YES”

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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That would probably be far too entertaining to see the Fates make an appearance

runic terrace Mar 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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hghjfjfvhjfvhjfvhj

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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There'd be a lot of potential for humor

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure we’ll never see the fates in person. But it’s hilarious to imagine.

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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and they are relevant to the game 😛

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and they're technically one of the three most powerful beings IIRC

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only rivaled by their brother Moros (who is kinda their boss), and Primidorial CHAOS

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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@supergiant MAKE IT HAPPEN
(You don’t have to. But it would be funny.)

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Romancable Moros when?

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Romancable Three Fates could possibly be hilarious as well

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:19 PM

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heck yes

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:19 PM

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"Don't worry, we asked Than and Meg if we can cuddle you." "Don't disappoint us. Or else."

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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wait whos moros

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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"Yay CUDDLES."

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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just killing and spreading fear and death is enough for me thanks

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Moros is the god of inevitable fate

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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o

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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or Doom

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The brother of the Three Fates and Thanatos and Hypnos

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and child of Nyx

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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nyx has a lottttttt of children

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Is also one of the beings that enforces Order upon the universe

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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I know they’re on the server, but sometimes I wonder if the Supergiant team come in here to see if people are picking up on the clues they’re laying down and see this kind of thing going on

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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well they do look at #hades-feedback so mayhaps

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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And are just like “wat”

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I think Moros could be a good potential inclusion

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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i think hes too obscure

ember hazel Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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i myself am very ''wat'' right now

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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i would love to see the rest of the olympians tho

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Well to modern people yeah

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I mean Zag was an obscure god and look where he’s at now

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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but to the ancient Greeks, Moros was feared

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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well

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it was more likely moros was feared in small pockets

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Actually he was called Dread Moros in mythology

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:22 PM

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since cities prolly didn't really focus on all gods, only a couple at a time

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:22 PM

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People genuinely had to pretend that he didn't exist

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Out of fear of his aspect dooming them all

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He's also the one who basically makes the general blueprint for the Fates IIRC

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So basically Zag's struggles and his deaths? Moros has a hand in it.

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The funny deaths at the end? Moros is there smirking at him.

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It's also where we get the word Morose

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:24 PM

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really? thats cool

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Yeah, especially how do you feel when you realize that nothing you do would matter or change anything? Morose.

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Basically he has an instant "I win" button against every single being except for Chaos

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:25 PM

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moros too op pls nerf

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Well they tried to nerf him

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then he crashed the balance of chaos and order

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and Primidorial Chaos turned everyone into dancing chickens in tutus

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and made Hades do the hoola

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The Olympians begged Moros to stop the madness so he got his powers unnerfed

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(and Nyx is there coddling him cause mom)

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Basically people in Ancient Greece had several major fears. Hades (like he's portrayed ingame), the Fates, and Moros.

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could be interesting to see how he'd weigh in on the whole mischief with Zag

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:27 PM

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wait a second. nyx had a daughter that had something to with day right? helena? but shes different than helios?

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Hemera

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:28 PM

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ah

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Helios is the Sun

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Hemera is the Daytime

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:28 PM

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ah

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Basically Hemera is the aspect of the daytime (in contrast to the Night)

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:29 PM

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rip helios

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apollo stealing his job 😔

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Yeah, Nyx's children are powerful

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 7:29 PM

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"Did a boulder just fall from the blasted sky?!"

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snicker

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Could be worse

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Meg could fall from the blasted sky

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be caught by Zag

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then they could have a song written about them by Orpheus

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(Meg would go ballistic)

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Then Than would fall from the sky, be caught by Zag

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only to be asked why he didn't just float

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"Meg suggested that I try this at least once in my life"

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Hades would be standing there wondering what happened to his life to deserve this

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I wanna meme on Hades really hard, summon Bouldy on him, Greater Call Dionysus on him, and use his own spear against him

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"Why are you splashing wine on me?"
"Did a boulder just fall from the blasted sky?!"
"What in my name are you doing, boy?!"

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Could be funnier

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Aphrodite Greater Call

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Hades should just have a blunt "...what in the world are you THINKING boy?"

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Could be funnier if Hades clapped back against Aphrodite

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"Persephone was more beautiful than you'd ever be, Aphrodite."

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Imagine the rage.

spiral pond Mar 13, 2020, 7:37 PM

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You know whats funnier?

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Artemis Greater Call

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10 nuclear missiles flying towards

coarse stone Mar 13, 2020, 7:39 PM

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"Meh, Persephone did worse."

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:46 PM

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when zag says "that eyeball... is that him?" when he first kills an exalted, who is referring to

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 7:46 PM

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That sounds like he's encountering an Exalted for the first time

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Pretty sure that's what he means, if it's his first time in Elysium

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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hm

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i got the impression that he mistook the eyeball for someone

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perhaps not

marble prawn Mar 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I was spamming left click bc I wanted to look at the alternate cursors (click vs idle) and a notification popped up that said "no fighting in the house" followed by a bit of dialogue from hades lmfaoooooo

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I didn't know you could do that

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/Nrv0rsv
Awwww

Imgur

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I wish they would actually face each other, but this is nice gilmanlove

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Also, I wonder if this "positively inspirational" event would mean... a new song in future update?!

atomic forge Mar 13, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Gotta be a credits duet.

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Hell yeah my man Orpheus

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Also, why the hell Artemis keeps talking about this "My Callisto" out of the sudden?

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 8:23 PM

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so when we have a veiled figure thats obviously placeholder art for an npc. so whos depicted on the pillars in tartarus?

lunar axle Mar 13, 2020, 8:42 PM

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So, they changed Demeter to be the daugther of other titans, and she claims kinship with her sisters who helped fight the titans, as the last mythological "inacurracy" was the crux of the game (IE Persephone), and in this case I'm ok with reducing the incestuous content, is there another reason to change it?

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Oh, because lore-wise, game Hades didn't rape game Persephone ?

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I guess that's much more tasteful

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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i don't think hades raped persephone even in the original myth

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i can only remember zeus raping demeter, which resulted in persephone

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I'm .. pretty sure he did thanthink

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How about that statue called "The rape of Persephone" ?

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Oh well I guess he "abducted" her, probably to talk poetry or something

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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thats fair, but also there are many myths that possibly contradict that. namely clever persephone

queen trout Mar 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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ew ew greek mythology

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I don't think the ancient myths were as bothered with consent as we were nowadays I suppose

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ew ew

runic terrace Mar 13, 2020, 8:57 PM

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the game definitely wants to stay away from more distasteful subjects, and can i ask that we do so in our discussion as well? thank you all!

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 8:58 PM

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yeah kam. sorry!

bleak osprey Mar 13, 2020, 8:58 PM

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yeah this definitely isn't a discussion to have in public channels like this, if you'd like to continue this topic i advise taking it to DMs

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Chrustaceans apparently "swim up from the riverbed in search of companionship"

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It's adorable, I want one, and I wish they didn't give me resources from the chef.

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 9:00 PM

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aww

bleak osprey Mar 13, 2020, 9:00 PM

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they just want a friend....

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and you went and caught them and served them for dinner you monster shadegrief

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 9:02 PM

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 9:02 PM

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ill just repost a question i asked earlier for speculation purposes. if we have a veiled figure for obvious placeholder art for an npc, then whos depicted on the pillars in tartarus? charon? he was teased at the end of the trailer for a new deisgn

burnt harbor Mar 13, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Ey, I was finally making the Sisyphus questline

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They mention the administrative room being open

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I suppose that's a recent change

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 9:08 PM

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blargh, i think it just generic people on the pillars

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 9:08 PM

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darn

robust remnant Mar 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/H3Osj2e

Imgur

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Chaos playing hide-and-seek with Nyx sounds.. wholesomely cute ☺️

shut ibex Mar 13, 2020, 9:17 PM

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What does the eldest sigil work order do?

tepid harness Mar 13, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Just had a run with Fists + Aphrodite attack + Unhealthy Fixation = punching Dad until he loves me

summer geyser Mar 13, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Hahahahaa i gotta try that

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 9:37 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/p7U83lI
About Zues ad Persephone

Imgur

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Also, I really don't like Zeus this update, he's so... gross

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His conversation with Artemis for their Duo is... meh. I thought Artemis could stay being a virgin goddess is because she manages to convince Zeus for her to stay that way.

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I'm not sure how to feel about Hades laughing every time that I charm him...does charming a boss even do anything?

errant mango Mar 13, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Charming just interrupts their attacks for a while

shy nimbus Mar 13, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Mainly interrupting them. Once I managed to charm Minotaur during his spin, he took out Theseus for me

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Eh, weird.

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Also, awesome.

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Narrator: Profound and foreboding description of Erebus
Zagreus: "Is this where father's goons gather to attack me?"

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 9:49 PM

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isn't erebus like nyx's husband lol

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Brother-consort

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Both primordial gods born of chaos

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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hm

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does that meant asphodel and elysium are also incarnations of an abstract concept

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if tartarus and erebus are as well

low blade Mar 13, 2020, 9:56 PM

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AFAIK no, asphodel meadows and Elysium are actual underworld realms, not sure where asphodel came from but it’s more firmly in hades domain, Elysium depending on the source seemingly was cronus’s realm and only became part of the underworld proper later. Tartarus and Erebus are like a primordial always-there-under-it-all thing a la chaos where realm = person (like calling the underworld hades because he runs it, but deeper)

solar depot Mar 13, 2020, 9:56 PM

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wait, just to backtrack a little... does artemis really refer to her as "my callisto"?

signal palm Mar 13, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Where are you at with that @keen patrol

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re: uniting

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 9:58 PM

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She also refers to the nymphs as her's in the same dialogue, so it's more a recounting I'd assume, since she's talking about companions and friends/allies.

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 10:01 PM

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~~whos callisto~~

keen patrol Mar 13, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Nyx mentionned that it is possible to free Orpheus from his contract

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 10:01 PM

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isn't that the island nymph lady?

errant mango Mar 13, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Part of Artemis' nymph squad

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 10:01 PM

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o

keen patrol Mar 13, 2020, 10:01 PM

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But I have to wait the "right" time, got orpheus and eurydice max out affection wise

signal palm Mar 13, 2020, 10:02 PM

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You get another conversation with nyx before then

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maybe one with achilles? and then definitely one with hades (that i was able to have literal seconds before i unlocked it so idk if that affects anything)

manic dust Mar 13, 2020, 10:03 PM

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do you have to have nyx relationship maxed in order to get the excalibur text?

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 10:03 PM

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nop

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just unlock all other aspects iirc

manic dust Mar 13, 2020, 10:04 PM

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damn, three runs and no prompt...

keen patrol Mar 13, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Alright I'll wait for it

signal palm Mar 13, 2020, 10:04 PM

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House RNG can be real bad sometimes, but I hope you get it soon!

keen patrol Mar 13, 2020, 10:06 PM

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For excalibur you also need the Guan yu aspect btw (and maybe finish a run with it ?)

normal talon Mar 13, 2020, 10:06 PM

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you don't need to finish a run with it, just have it unlocked

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maybe attempt a run but you shouldn't have to beat it to get excalibur

opal dagger Mar 13, 2020, 10:19 PM

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can I get a confirmation about how to progress with orpheus and eurydice

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:23 PM

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where're you now?

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@opal dagger

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with that questline I mean

opal dagger Mar 13, 2020, 10:24 PM

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i mean i don't know how to describe it

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i have the prophecy to get them back together

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both their affinity lines are on locked hearts

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i've talked to hades about their contract

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and I believe megara as well

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Basically you get two conversations with Nyx about the Contract, randomly.

opal dagger Mar 13, 2020, 10:26 PM

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awsome more random events took me 25-30 runs to get the last encounter with megaera

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Has a someone returned nyx to chaos already?

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:26 PM

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lol

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Oh yeah loads of people I'd bet

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Again...another conversation with Nyx.

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Dear gods

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Wow, this kinda sucks, actually, lol.

raven drift Mar 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I wish there was a way to reset the house without wasting time on intentional deaths

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Eh, at least I have an excuse to try anyways.

supple dagger Mar 13, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Is there different promotional art pieces in which Zagreus wields the other weapons beside The Sword and The Spear of Gan Yu?

torn junco Mar 13, 2020, 10:42 PM

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@flint bluff i did it she has a conversation with him and then comes bk u will find her in his realm and need to talk to her

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:42 PM

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How did you trigger the evento?

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Event*

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:43 PM

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That's a bit of a leap though isn't it?

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There's a couple of other things before you see her within Chaos's realm.

torn junco Mar 13, 2020, 10:43 PM

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u need to talk to her a couple of times and then she will give u a quest to give her 8888 darkness to open the way for her

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:43 PM

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A little better, but I can be a bit more specific, here:

torn junco Mar 13, 2020, 10:43 PM

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u need to also do the quest to open the new sub room

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Oh thanks

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I'm saving it right now

torn junco Mar 13, 2020, 10:44 PM

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it seem u need way more darkness than before i find myself farming them too now :x

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still i wonder if u get more darkness by the higher heat u clear

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Nah

torn junco Mar 13, 2020, 10:45 PM

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i see then its probably most efficient to just do 0 heat runs

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I farm with poseidon's boon , sisyphus companion and especial weapon

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Gets me like 98 darkness per boss

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Up to 130

torn junco Mar 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

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so far what i do is get into a lot of darkness rooms and pick those 200% darkness increase things

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Chaos boon is good too

torn junco Mar 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

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when he offers it at least

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Yeah

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Thats the sad part

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:48 PM

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It begins with a chance that Zagreus will ask Nyx about her relationship with Chaos.
Talking to Chaos about this furthers the questline.
Starting from this update, another conversation will also be available between Zagreus and Nyx about this.
Another conversation after another run will actually give you the minor prophecy. Zagreus recommends to Nyx that she can put her request to Zagreus as a work order, but it will not appear until later, like Orpheus's contract.
When you pay for the work order, you talk to Nyx again after the next time you complete (or fail) a run. Even if Nyx is present during the payment, she will not yet be ready to talk about the renovation.

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Of, course considering also speech RNG

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So that's the detailed part about the questline.

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:49 PM

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More Diamonds???

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I'm soo poor

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Hm? Oh, no diamonds included.

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Oh thank god

torn junco Mar 13, 2020, 10:50 PM

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its that 8888 darkness i told ua bout

flint bluff Mar 13, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Ok

slim pecan Mar 13, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Who's is paying skelly tho

exotic mist Mar 13, 2020, 10:58 PM

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hm

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the fates

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actually that would make a lot of sense...

dusty elbow Mar 13, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Ok Aspect of Talos + Quake Cutter = Fun as friiiiiiiick

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 11:05 PM

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I tried it, it was p cool

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Talos seemed like a nice guy...U_U

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They really turned Orphic Dionysus into a pun in this game, huh?

flat shell Mar 13, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Ain't it great

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 11:27 PM

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lol

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I really don't like the look of Theseus riding around on a chariot with armcannons laughing maniacally

half storm Mar 13, 2020, 11:44 PM

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What are the conditions for unlocking the aspect of Arthur?

slim pecan Mar 13, 2020, 11:46 PM

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CheckPins

fathom current Mar 13, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Now if only we knew how to get past Zeus and Artemis's Affinity locks.

carmine flower Mar 14, 2020, 12:35 AM

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hey thugs

marble prawn Mar 14, 2020, 12:35 AM

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i take it you're referring to us

carmine flower Mar 14, 2020, 12:35 AM

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how do i unlock the next heart in thanatos's heart stuff

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yes i am uwucat

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i want to hold his hand and maybe kiss him a little

marble prawn Mar 14, 2020, 12:36 AM

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oh you just have to keep running into him

carmine flower Mar 14, 2020, 12:36 AM

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do i have to keep waiting.

marble prawn Mar 14, 2020, 12:36 AM

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he'll have some Special dialogue

carmine flower Mar 14, 2020, 12:36 AM

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he isn't showing up i thought maybe i had to do something special

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rng hates me

marble prawn Mar 14, 2020, 12:36 AM

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yeah, unfortunately 😔 dw i've been in the same boat as u

carmine flower Mar 14, 2020, 12:36 AM

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mister thanatos pls come here

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i just want to love on you and maybe cry a little bit

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why is zagreus's type Mean To Him

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like. why is that his type

flint bluff Mar 14, 2020, 12:37 AM

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He usually appears in the hall if you found him during the run

marble prawn Mar 14, 2020, 12:38 AM

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yeah but i think the dialogue needed to unlock the heart has to happen out in the field

flint bluff Mar 14, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Dunno

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I had him in max hearts when the Love update came

knotty raft Mar 14, 2020, 12:51 AM

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You know

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Since there aren't many legendary guns in history

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Is the rail gonna get the aspect of Henry viii

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/weapons/images/e/ee/Gun-Shield.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20180920001529

burnt harbor Mar 14, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Ey anyone could tell me what the lounge shortcut does exactly?

signal palm Mar 14, 2020, 12:56 AM

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It makes a small(?) opening on the wall opposite the broker

burnt harbor Mar 14, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Lol, then I'll spend the gems in something else

lunar ibex Mar 14, 2020, 1:00 AM

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maybe they'll make up their own mythos for the rail

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make it laser gun or something

rigid vortex Mar 14, 2020, 1:02 AM

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zagreus is a freakin' pimp. Either that or he's a Visual Novel protagonist on the harem route.

marble prawn Mar 14, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Why not both dusa

raven drift Mar 14, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Can I friendzone Thanatos after giving him all the ambrosia?

shy nimbus Mar 14, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Can I friendzone Meg after fiving her all the ambrosia?

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I love Meg, but I think it's a little too much between us lately

flat shell Mar 14, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Yes to both

shy nimbus Mar 14, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Yeah... until you constantly see them talking to each other when they didn't even talk to each other before

raven drift Mar 14, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Zagreus: connecting people

dusty elbow Mar 14, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Honestly tho? Yeah

open berry Mar 14, 2020, 3:02 AM

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zag walks into the lounge. well if it isn't our mutual friend, meg says. enjoy the peace and quiet with us zag, than says

....this is actual dialogue i've had. i suppose it is a little bit jarring, but in fairness meg and than have made references about speaking together/being acquaintances prior to the game's events so maybe once they aren't wanting to throttle zag every time they see him it isn't too outrageous for them to mellow out

supple dagger Mar 14, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Okay, so I decided to bring Thanatos' Keepsake with me. Fought Asterius and Theseus. Managed to knock both their healths down enough, so I decided to use the keepsake and the Ring of Death simultaneously killed BOTH of them.

flat shell Mar 14, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Isn't it GREAT

supple dagger Mar 14, 2020, 3:31 AM

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I love it indeed. Was mostly using it more to help unlock the Codex for it, but my god, I was NOT expecting it to just SNAP them like that.

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Additionally, on this run with the Twin Fists, I feel like I have roughly every Zeus boon possible, with the exception of the Call, Attack buff, and Revenge passive. And the Dionysus duo boon. ~~and the Dash that, for some reason, I thought I had despite having the Athena boon~~

ornate siren Mar 14, 2020, 3:35 AM

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zeus boon on fists feels so strong

supple dagger Mar 14, 2020, 3:37 AM

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It really does! Zeus, we would like a WORD

ornate siren Mar 14, 2020, 3:37 AM

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the range boost from the hammer surprised me so much as well

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i expected like maybe 20%

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not whatever the hell it is

supple dagger Mar 14, 2020, 3:43 AM

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I enjoy the upgrade that adds an additional punch to the attack combo.

ornate siren Mar 14, 2020, 3:44 AM

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that one is really good with athena attack

vague sparrow Mar 14, 2020, 3:58 AM

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what are the requirements for the bond dialogue w/ thanatos?

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i've had one with orpheus, nyx, meg, dusa, and skelly iirc

drifting citrus Mar 14, 2020, 4:10 AM

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keep talking to him and win against him a bunch of times

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otherwise it’s just rng

vague sparrow Mar 14, 2020, 4:19 AM

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notlikeblob

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i think i've done it at least 50 times now lol

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 4:31 AM

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so i just found out that if you keep not taking Artemis when you choose between two gods she stops doing the "wow rood" talk to you but everyone else ive seen continues to do that

ornate siren Mar 14, 2020, 4:31 AM

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😦

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 4:33 AM

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it's not even that i dislike artemis, she has my favorite boons tbh, she just keeps on only showing up in the duo boon areas when i have a different build and so she's the second choice D:

vague sparrow Mar 14, 2020, 4:34 AM

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i noticed that too

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it may have been background noise, but it sounds like she's saying something unintelligible

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without a dialogue prompt

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 4:37 AM

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oh i havent heard anything like that but i hope so lol

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okay so you know the elite giant butterfly ball thing? i dont know what caused this but it like LAUNCHED at me immediately and that's the first time ive seen it, is there like a pact thing that causes that?

exotic mist Mar 14, 2020, 4:46 AM

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extreme measures

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err

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the other one

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that buffs mini bosses

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wait i just talked with nyx and she had her downcast art while talking about persephone... hm that doesn't bode well

atomic forge Mar 14, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Middle Management?

exotic mist Mar 14, 2020, 4:49 AM

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yep. that one

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 4:54 AM

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ohhh okay that makes sense

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ya it seems like persephone was like good but sometimes could be really mean? that's the vibes im getting at least

exotic mist Mar 14, 2020, 4:55 AM

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or mayhaps there's something up with her?

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iirc the dialogue was something about why nyx pretended she was zags mom and she was like "when you'll meet her you'll find out why"

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i was like 🤔 wot

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 4:56 AM

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ya... im not sure D:

exotic mist Mar 14, 2020, 4:56 AM

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sgg is teasing us 😔

mint kestrel Mar 14, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Wait a minute

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Defeating hades is not the end?

exotic mist Mar 14, 2020, 4:58 AM

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perhaps not

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as far now, it is. zag dies by the narrator's hand and returns to the house of hades

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but i think theres speculation that maybe zag will go to olympus

mint kestrel Mar 14, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Btw i noticed that sometimes gods get mad. Why?

exotic mist Mar 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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during trials?

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its cause they didn't get picked by zag lol so they kinda retalitate for that chamber but then they go back to normal

mint kestrel Mar 14, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Oh.

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That’s petty. Like, really petty.

ornate siren Mar 14, 2020, 5:05 AM

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they're greek gods

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petty is their whole thng

mint kestrel Mar 14, 2020, 5:05 AM

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~~and horny~~

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:05 AM

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petty and horny are the main two character traits of all the greek gods

atomic forge Mar 14, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Every so often I see someone summarize the entirety of a monstrously large work in less than 15 seconds.

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Well done, Felby. Well done.

mint kestrel Mar 14, 2020, 5:07 AM

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They appear to be decent gods at first, but then they turn out to be extremely petty.

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"What's that? You didn't pick my buff? I am now angry, and I hope you die."

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:15 AM

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it's very clear the gods/goddesses that offer you boons are merely pretty much easy to get angry or dislike you. Each of them has their own sort of downside trait to go along that describes them.

crimson haven Mar 14, 2020, 5:15 AM

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i just got some dialogue that talked about achilles relationship with patroclus and... what's with that? its either these greek gods are mega good people and say they love their friends or there's some shenanigans going on

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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achilles and patroclus were super gay for eachother

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I think most of them are doing this all to get benefits from zagreus/annoy hades/or just for fun.

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Dio is for all three

flat shell Mar 14, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Patroclus and Achilies had their ashes mixed together when both died, so I mean, it's pretty blatant

crimson haven Mar 14, 2020, 5:17 AM

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aww thats so sweet

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:17 AM

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and yeah, Achilles and Patroclus were lovers before they died, but you can sort of fix their struggles, but a bit, there is still no certain help for them to like reunite sadly

atomic forge Mar 14, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Yet.

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:18 AM

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one day, can we have two gay dad warriors unite once again.

atomic forge Mar 14, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Current patch spoilers so I'm being extra cautious: ||We can reunite Orpheus and Eurydice, I believe we'll be able to reunite Patrochilles.||

slate zenith Mar 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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You will eventually

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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i actually just started working further on that one Schpoon 😄 im so excited lol

crimson haven Mar 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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god i want my two dads to be happy

slate zenith Mar 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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There's a text dialog where one of them says ||"Don't try it yet. Fates can twist words."||

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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And another spoiler for the patch: ||And same can be done for Nyx and Chaos, I think.||

tall ingot Mar 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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and final final final ||reunite hades and persephone||

slate zenith Mar 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Wok, yeah. I just finished that one. It's sweet.

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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OwO Wok

atomic forge Mar 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Bruh.

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I'm almost there.

slate zenith Mar 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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I will say there's a *@!#(& tiny rat now.

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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I HATE THE TINY VERMIN

slate zenith Mar 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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And if you see the tiny rat. May gods have mercy on you

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Yes, tiny Vermin. That lil bastard.

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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I really have to catch up tbh

slate zenith Mar 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Angry Dad has nothing on FURY VERMIN

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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still haven't reunited any of them, but I am there.

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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you'll get it eventually! 😄 just takes time and giving everyone nectars and eventually ambrosias

atomic forge Mar 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I kinda wish the Tiny Vermin has his own boss theme, but I'm okay with The Bloodless right now.

crimson haven Mar 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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why was he so stronk?

slate zenith Mar 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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I hope there's a few more bonus bosses like him. He was a nice surprise.

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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same

crimson haven Mar 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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i really wanted Zagreus to say "why is there boss music playing?"

slate zenith Mar 14, 2020, 5:23 AM

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I actually wanted the music to change halfway through that fight to have latin or greek chanting

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Because that's when you know stuff is dangerous.

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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as long as we don't get gorgan and stonehead 2.0 I am all for new bosses

atomic forge Mar 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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MM Dire Skullcrusher stomps three times in a row. ron

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:25 AM

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dusa teleports and throws a ton of rocks

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:25 AM

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if we get another Gorgon boss im going to cry

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so i just denied zeus in a choice boon and he's so mad i love it

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Zeus is the most fun to screw over but least fun gameplay wise. I fear his bolts of thunder

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:33 AM

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ill be honest i think demeter is worse than him but i definitely am going to choose those two from now on they're kinda hard to deal with lol

haughty carbon Mar 14, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Demeter is worse definitely

mint kestrel Mar 14, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Wait

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That purple lady is Nyx?

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:41 AM

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the one right next to your room? ya

mint kestrel Mar 14, 2020, 5:43 AM

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I mean the one who comes out in the update

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:43 AM

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ya

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oh i just realized... Persephone in myth leaves the underworld for half the year... but she's gone during the summer and it's winter currently and she isnt here and that's why it's such a big deal

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granted that could change in the game's lore

kind zealot Mar 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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is there a specific requirement for arthur to pop up besides having all the other blade aspects and having guan yu?

open berry Mar 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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you only need a minimum of 5 titan blood invested into the blade, you dont necessarily need all its aspects. but otherwise no. its just rng, the game will prioritize story dialogue first

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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these are some big spoilers i think: ||THANATOS JUST SHOWED UP IN MY ROOM AAAAA||

kind zealot Mar 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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from who's dialogue do i get arthur from? im assuming nyx, but she hasnt popped up in the house for a while now

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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ya it's Nyx

open berry Mar 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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it's nyx. you will see an exclamation point above her but not the normal round bubble. the round bubble is story-related dialogue, the one for the aspect will be the jagged bubble

kind zealot Mar 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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hmm, ok

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ill give it a few more runs then

open berry Mar 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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it took me 12 runs from the time the update dropped before i finally got it, i think other people have left feedback too that the game should not bump back the aspect quest in the queue so far back. let me have the weapon first and then you can dump all the story on me in the following runs lol

kind zealot Mar 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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yeah was kinda confused so thought i was missing a requirement

open berry Mar 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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nope, if you've unlocked guan yu and have 5+ titan blood invested in the blade thats all you need. the rest is down to rng

crimson haven Mar 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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hey guys, ive been trying to unlock the aspect of arthur but it seems that i cant give nyx the last nectar, any tips i need to know about?

primal cipher Mar 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Do you have Guan Yu yet?

crimson haven Mar 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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yep

primal cipher Mar 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Ok, I think it might just be bad luck then, I think the only prerequisite is unlocking x amount of aspects

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You definitely don't need to max out Nyx to get it

crimson haven Mar 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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i thought that was what the locked heart was for

primal cipher Mar 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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No that's for mending the Chaos gate

dawn crater Mar 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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I'm told you need to put 5 titan blood into the sword

lunar ibex Mar 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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The method of unlocking arthur is also pinned for those still wondering

dawn crater Mar 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Then talk to Nyx like it's your last breathing moment

crimson haven Mar 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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ah, ok then

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i need to invest in blade aspects

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ty

lunar ibex Mar 14, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Are you not allowed to reroll hammers?

atomic forge Mar 14, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Nope.

lunar ibex Mar 14, 2020, 6:17 AM

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boo

dawn crater Mar 14, 2020, 6:17 AM

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I don't like this hammer. Sticks a dice in it

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GIMME NEW STUFF

lunar ibex Mar 14, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Guess they need to balance the new reroll some how

dawn crater Mar 14, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Of course

ocean drum Mar 14, 2020, 7:01 AM

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so the convo earlier where we talked about hating having to choose against zeus and demeter... well im just now going into a thing where the choices are zeus and demeter

lunar ibex Mar 14, 2020, 7:10 AM

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