#h1-story-discussion

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coarse stone
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I'm sure someone would typically try

lunar ibex
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Plus hippo outfits are pretty pricy

coarse stone
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even when Steve Irwin himself didn't ever mess with hippos.

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maybe an April Fools event for the game

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replace character portraits

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to something ridiculous

signal palm
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happy april fools all characters are bouldy

coarse stone
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Happy April Fools, everyone's Tisiphone

haughty carbon
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It's zagreus wearing clown shoes and the usual walking sound is replaced with honks

coarse stone
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with all of their facial expressions

restive elk
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Happy april fools, but all chaos boons punish you for moving at all

coarse stone
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Or the first boss is Hades himself

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the second? Hades.

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the third? Hades.

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The Fourth? Than.

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"Your father quit. Impressive Zag."

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Than would then reveal that he can have Hades' physique

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and fight you with a scythe.

haughty carbon
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The game is just replaced with secret bowling mini game ft. Bouldy.

plucky spear
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He one shots you if he hits you

haughty carbon
coarse stone
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(and the "Welp, Zag is ded" scenario would be "Poor Zagreus, distraught over seeing Thanatos' pout. Forgot that portals exist. Than has never looked so smug."

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Basically Than always wins. Even when he loses.

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Or another idea. Everyone's lines are switched to have British/Australian/American slang

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(to be fair, I'd probably pay extra to have Hades sound like Gordon Ramsay)

deep spoke
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Bouldy boss

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@coarse stone Your fighting technique is RAAAAAAW!

coarse stone
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"You cannot escape you DONKEY"

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"Dusa, where is the LAMB SAUCE?"

deep spoke
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Hades, clapping Zag's head between two pieces of flatbread after Zag loses: WHAT ARE YOU?
Zag: An idiot sandwich.

coarse stone
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Or the other way around ๐Ÿ˜›

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Hades: "Thanatos, you can't COOK."

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Than: -_-; "Of course I can't."

deep spoke
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@signal palm sadly that fic isn't our Zag

signal palm
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it's the closest one i could find

deep spoke
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Also sad: No swearing allowed cuts down on potential Gordon Ramsay shenanigans

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Can't say the effing knucklehead is effing RAW with the right sense of... vigor

coarse stone
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Could always replace the swears with food items

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The FRESH knucklehead is FEELING RAW ๐Ÿ˜ 

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or just replace the words, can have a bit of fun with that

deep spoke
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Just bleep half of it

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You know what would be even more on point?

coarse stone
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Or "MOOO"

deep spoke
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God of War crossover gags

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BOI

coarse stone
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I think the sound of a cow just appearing in the middle of a sentence as a censor would be far more humorous than anything

deep spoke
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MOOOOOrderer?

coarse stone
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"Meg, I think your sister...actually achieved a new level of insanity? Should we get her an award...or a vacation? Or a gift basket?"

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"Do NOT get her anything Zag. Otherwise, we'd all have to MOOOve"

spiral pond
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MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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๐Ÿฎ

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tbh what if hades throws lamb sauce at you

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instead of those skulls

flat shell
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Then he has no right to complain about Zagreus flinging his blood everywhere

deep spoke
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Everyone asks where's the lamb sauce, no one ever asks how's the lamb sauce :c

spiral pond
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Demeter's cast

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Symmetra: Turret deployed.

deep spoke
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April Fools: All casts are replaced with cats

spiral pond
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and then her ult: DONG ZHU BU XU ZOU!

signal palm
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I'll do you one better, why's the lamb sauce

spiral pond
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what about what's the lamb sauce

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zag probably never have ate lamb anyway

signal palm
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do shades need to eat

flat shell
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Nope!

spiral pond
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they eat pommys raw

flat shell
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But it;s fun to anyway.

signal palm
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do they taste?

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is that why eurydice is always cooking?

spiral pond
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they taste pain for sure

flat shell
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Probably? Otherwise I'm gonna feel silly having bought those spices.

signal palm
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petition to let cerberus have a treat

spiral pond
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Eurydice be like ๐ŸŽค ๐ŸŒณ

signal palm
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No burdens she said until her home was flooded with lava

spiral pond
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD RIDDAAAAAAAAAAANCE

lunar ibex
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Ahh seeing gordon ramsay references in two different subservers wonked me for a sec

spiral pond
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wonk

lunar ibex
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I blame you

spiral pond
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not my fault

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jfc

lunar ibex
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Why is lamb sauce in discussion and spoilers then

spiral pond
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gordon freeman

lunar ibex
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What is the half life of lamb sauce?

spiral pond
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6th weapon leaked

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its crowbar

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and the new god God of Half Life GabeN

lunar ibex
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Id prefer gravity gun

spiral pond
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Status curse: Microtransaction

lunar ibex
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oof

spiral pond
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each time your enemy attack it drops 1 obol

signal palm
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wouldn't be the first time they reference a valve property

lunar ibex
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Super hell mode: each time you die, you're charged $2.50

spiral pond
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but beating this challenge you will earn the money people have lost

lunar ibex
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Oh snap

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Video games with gambling

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Not Gambling video games

signal palm
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hades 2: the dead pool

deep spoke
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@spiral pond microtransaction status? More like Fortnite since this one started on Epic

spiral pond
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hades 2.5: dark souls prepare to die edition

lunar ibex
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And no matter what, Gaben takes 3/4 of the money pot

spiral pond
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@deep spoke valve has been doing microtransaction with their items and they get away from it

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at least epic is not selling $10k skins topkek

deep spoke
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Yeah, but the Portal ref was because Bastion launched on Steam.

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Actually nah. Aspect of J. Allen Brack

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Zagreus aggressively non-apologizes to enemies

spiral pond
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also steal their money in the process

deep spoke
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Status curse downgrades enemies into inferior versions

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That drop more obols

spiral pond
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what is this devolver stat

deep spoke
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...wait

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Hades Demake would legitimately be fun.

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No meme needed

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16 bit Hades!

spiral pond
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imagine april fools supergiant make a ultra graphic intensive Enter the Gungeon

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and then Devolver makes a 16 bit hades

deep spoke
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Thinky brain

lunar ibex
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Quite the undertaking for aprils fool

deep spoke
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They could announce it as a joke. Like Warframe and PoE

lunar ibex
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yes it's april's fool

deep spoke
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No need to actually do it

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But memes

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I will say, given our spritey emotes here

lunar ibex
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Meh memes are overrated

deep spoke
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I would love to see a 16 Bit Filter for this game

lunar ibex
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But I would love to see everything you described

spiral pond
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as if this game isnt already hard enough to see LMFAO

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LETS MAKE IT BLURRIER

deep spoke
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Hyper Light Drift Dash

lunar ibex
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That reminds me I wanted to revisit HLD

spiral pond
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Imagine mistral dash in 16 bits

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literal smoke grenades

lunar ibex
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guys is it rouge-lite or rogue-like

spiral pond
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its rogue rogue

deep spoke
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Rouge Lite would just be a budget version of the bat from Sonic

lunar ibex
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

signal palm
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those are different things

deep spoke
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It's the dark souls of sekiros

lunar ibex
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I guess lite has come to mean a free and "lite" version of the main product

deep spoke
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HydraLite

spiral pond
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imagine saying sekiro is hard

lunar ibex
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But a lot of people use both terms

spiral pond
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its probably the easiest from game since ds 2

deep spoke
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@spiral pond I physically can't play it properly, but I'm meming

lunar ibex
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Who's sekiro and why is he so randy?

spiral pond
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tbh bloodborne is kinda easy but since its kinda different to normal ds approach

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@lunar ibex cause he kicks robert

deep spoke
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Objective difficulty doesn't exist

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4head

lunar ibex
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I jest

spiral pond
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and then his dad too

deep spoke
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Shrekiro: Ogres Die Twice is the best though

spiral pond
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all the roberts are down the bridge

signal palm
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roguelike has a stricter definition than roguelite, typically meaning literally like the game rogue
lite usually means it borrows some elements like random gen, permadeath, stuff like that. it's also grown to have some form of meta-progression between attempts

deep spoke
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April fools: Hades, but it's Shrek

spiral pond
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@deep spoke thouse louses can be shrek

haughty carbon
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Excuse me, but there is difficulty and challenge. residentzag

signal palm
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but a lot of grey's arisen from the terms and how much is borrowed. Lots of weird contention there

deep spoke
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Louts but they're ogres

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Lord Farquaad replaces Theseus

heady rain
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personally i find it's pretty ok to keep track of stuff

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the only hard stuff to keep track of at times is your cursor for KB&M

spiral pond
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@deep spoke i hate you rn

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I sometiems just forgot where am i

heady rain
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i lose track of my cursor sometimes among all the explosions

spiral pond
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with 50 billion light effects

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disco time

heady rain
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especially with shield of chaos and bull rushing through everything

spiral pond
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default dance zagreus

deep spoke
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And the Flamewheels start coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and it's been 6 waves send help...

spiral pond
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HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

heady rain
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athena solves all your problems

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including flamewheels

spiral pond
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athena but she is in the tom cruise laughing collage images

heady rain
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athena attack into flamewheels actually prevents all flamewheel damage

deep spoke
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Orpheus, play Despacito

heady rain
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makes flamewheel rooms a breeze

flat shell
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I'm still longing for the rush of having maxed jury summons and a plus 68% enemy Chaos Curse proc on a Thanatos room

lunar ibex
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Athena needs a nerf

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or the other dashes need a buff

heady rain
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athena doesn't need a nerf

flat shell
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that was the funniest thing I have ever done in this game and it keeps not repeating

deep spoke
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@flat shell +69% or it sucks

flat shell
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IF ONLY

heady rain
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it's more like the other gods need a buff

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like poseidon

deep spoke
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+69% enemies... someone needs to screen it if it happens

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Zagreus: Nice.

lunar ibex
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Id like if they move away from the whole treasure theme

heady rain
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eh, poseidon treasure is nice when farming darkness

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i once picked sunken treasure 5 times lmao

lunar ibex
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That should just be its own separate thing

heady rain
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what people suggested was adding sunken treasure and ocean's bounty together

deep spoke
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Thonken treasure

lunar ibex
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He's got a lot of useless boons if you're trying to climb

heady rain
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climb?

lunar ibex
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the heat ladder

deep spoke
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Nah. Most of his boons are fine.

lunar ibex
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I'd like that combo

heady rain
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honestly his boons make life in styx a breeze

lunar ibex
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One boon is fine

deep spoke
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Only issue is that Special has almost 0 knockback on most weapons

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And wave pounding is a trash value

heady rain
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get tidal dash + that boon that makes a splash on wall slam

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and you can dash once into enemies

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and they'll pinball themselves to death

deep spoke
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At like 3-4x value Wave Pounding would be a big pog

lunar ibex
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I really like his wave clearing theme

heady rain
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enemies literally pinball themselves to death in styx due to how small the rooms are

lunar ibex
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er room clearing

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It's insanely strong, fast, and pretty reliable against almost everything but bosses

heady rain
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eh

spiral pond
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Poseidon is the beta male

lunar ibex
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and his call is always good

heady rain
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once they fix sea storm i might go back to sea storm chiron bow

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it was pretty fun

lunar ibex
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You mean that it doesn't proc every arrow?

spiral pond
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But if poseidon is beta male then idk what zeus is

lunar ibex
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or does it just not work

heady rain
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yes

lunar ibex
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Yeah

heady rain
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it doesn't proc every arrow for some reason

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so it's less dps than actually advertised

deep spoke
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@spiral pond the concept of "beta male" is ridiculous

spiral pond
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Chill its a joke

lunar ibex
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I'm a Sigma Male

spiral pond
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No one is discriminating each other

deep spoke
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Needed an /s

heady rain
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the gods tend to bully poseidon though

spiral pond
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Harness the gravity @lunar ibex

deep spoke
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Because some people actually use those terms unironically 5head

spiral pond
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Then they are the 4head

deep spoke
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I'm a steins;gate world line myself

spiral pond
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Why am i taking the L

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Bruv

deep spoke
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Nah Strong is taking the L, you're a Ligma now @lunar ibex

lunar ibex
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Ligma my poms?

spiral pond
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BRUH

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Its S post channel guys

heady rain
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this is slightly devolving into degeneracy

spiral pond
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Its SPOILER POST CHANNEL

deep spoke
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Slightly

lunar ibex
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Your're right. It's late, i thought it might fly

deep spoke
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Spoilers: this chat is cursed

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Inb4 we're all banned

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Bye guys

spiral pond
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Chaos said I had enough of this

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Curse yall

lunar ibex
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Ive got the egg

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jokes on you

deep spoke
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Chaos Emerald

signal palm
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just make every statement tangentially related to the game

deep spoke
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They should change it to green in a month

flat shell
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So to pull this vaguely on topic gain, what storylines are you hoping to come out next patch?

deep spoke
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Persephone

spiral pond
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Persephone be next god

lunar ibex
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Anyone like pomegranates?

signal palm
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I want chaos to tell us what'll hatch from their egg

deep spoke
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NO POMEGRANATES!

spiral pond
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And she has the olant power

flat shell
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Because I REALLY wanna see more of Charon and Hermes' deal, or Nyx and Chaos

spiral pond
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To kick Hades nuts

lunar ibex
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Spoiler, if you cut them in half and bang the rind with something, all of the seeds fall out

spiral pond
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Demeter be less salty

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I wonder if reuniting with their only family can be a great ending

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Also restore the seasons

haughty carbon
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If you crack the egg open the balance itself will crack

spiral pond
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If you open the egg chaos will come out and says its free real estate

lunar ibex
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I'd like the ending where Zag finally leaves, finds out his fathers tortured past, convinces all of the gods that Hades is chill, goes back, invites him back, and they all live happily ever after. And the satyrs get hell

spiral pond
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Multiple ending?

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Woh

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Tbh what if they re recognize chaos again

lunar ibex
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You mean what if chaos re recognizes them

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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

spiral pond
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And then chaos said yall gettin cursed

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Cursed Ending

lunar ibex
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Oh god everyone get out

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I would really like if they implement some sort of event or debuff when you get that hades cut scene right before a run

spiral pond
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Chaos call: Shadow the hedgehog says CHAOS CONTROL

signal palm
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The debuff is you play slightly worse because you got sad

lunar ibex
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Jokes on him, I close my eyes and plug my ears

spiral pond
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Hades asmr

lunar ibex
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I do still get sad though...

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Why dad, why

spiral pond
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Hades cutscene. He used to play dnd with his brothers

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Olympus & Tartarus

deep spoke
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Adamant Rail Aspect of Shadow the Hedgehog

spiral pond
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Felis everytime you said something chaos automatically gives me something ultra cursed dusjso

deep spoke
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@spiral pond to be fair he is voiced by Logan and anyone voiced by Logan is ASMR

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Also

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Exactly according to keikaku

spiral pond
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Chaos hates me

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Even tho i give up my hp

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Because im a 4head that forgot to equip egg every run because i always switch to skelly tooth at styz

deep spoke
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๐Ÿฅš

spiral pond
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Egghead

signal palm
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stop using skelly's tooth

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he has bigger bones

spiral pond
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Im garbage

deep spoke
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I'm garbage but I rely on the spearpoint instead

signal palm
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we're all garbage

deep spoke
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it's okay

spiral pond
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We live in a soceity

deep spoke
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remember, it's garbage can, not garbage cannot

spiral pond
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Felis i need to mute you before i fork you up

signal palm
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garbage bin there done that

deep spoke
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No spooning though. I'm just not into you like that...

signal palm
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does renaming the hydra not trigger with EM on?

deep spoke
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It does not

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But it applies TO EM

signal palm
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That's super lame

spiral pond
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Salt Inducing Hydra

deep spoke
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so you have to fight Lernie without EM, then you can have EM on and he'll be Lernie forever

spiral pond
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Tfw wiki says relation of archillis with patroclus is complicated

deep spoke
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What if it isn't the real Persephone we meet

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it'd just be a

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persephony

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may have made this joke already but here we go

spiral pond
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You run this joke to the ground

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get off the stage

coarse stone
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Hades and Zagreus greatly disapprove

deep spoke
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You know, I hope Achilles wasn't the one asked to train the dog. Cerberus would never learn how to heel.

coarse stone
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slow clap

spiral pond
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Im shooting your kneecaps with Coronacht

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just for the joke alone

coarse stone
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I was once a Shade until I took an arrow to the knee. The Prince kindly apologized for it.

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(Meg disagreed)

deep spoke
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Holy crap, Bouldy sparkles when you max bond

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Nice

heady rain
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gotta teach your son swear words at some point

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also, you can max bond with bouldy? i'm pretty he has no cap

coarse stone
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He stepped on a Teemo Shroom (from LoL)?

ember goblet
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maybe

burnt harbor
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You know what?

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I'm gonna feel sad when they inevitably phase out the joke ending narrations

pure plaza
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I'm a huge fan of the joke endings, really hope they keep it in somehow

thorn compass
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maybe a secret passage

dull pond
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Has Devs said anything about what they're gonna do for when u kill hades?

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Like will there be a new area?

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Dlc?

thorn compass
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just the ending

nova turtle
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yeah I've only heard about them adding the ending

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I'm not sure if DLC is supergiants style

umbral grail
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Thing is we donโ€™t know what the ending will involve. Could be another zone and boss for all we know.

burnt harbor
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Zag finally gets the chance to get absolutely smashed with Dio in one of his parties.

olive field
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i heard they were the same person actually ๐Ÿ˜‰

formal ivy
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No no no, you've got it wrong, Dio is just Zag's heart

burnt harbor
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They are the same person, is just Dio is so drunk he sees double

coarse stone
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Wouldn't it be Orpheus who is drunk then?

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(Drunken Than would actually be...interesting lol)

lunar ibex
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I'm sure they'll include them some how

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I thought Than was drunk considering how badly I spank him in the monster killing competition

coarse stone
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I think that's just him being distracted by Zag tbh <:

red saffron
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rightfully so

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i spent the last weekend trying to play enough runs to romance than, had to wait till i had chatted enough so i could start giving him ambrosia

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took forever but i can finally romance him now

wicked pier
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I just got the rememberance where hades introduces Meg to Zag; "Mortals become men quickly. This is Megaera. She is here to expedite the process."

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It made me feel really disgusting. So it is cannon that Meg is in the house so that Zag can lose his virginity?

flat shell
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I thought that was more for training and toughening up purposes, instead of that.

main gulch
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To quite literally "whip him into shape"

burnt halo
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"become a man" doesn't necessarily have to be "become a man by losing your virginity"

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it is in some cultures, of course

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but there's no detail here

main gulch
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I think by pointing out mortals become men quickly makes it obvious it's a maturity and age thing

burnt halo
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obviously maturity

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but maturity how is what people are looking at

coarse stone
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Could also be an arranged marriage type dealio

burnt halo
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some consider sex to be an important milestone for "finalizing" maturity

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or for mental/social/whatever growth

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but it could easily just be physical growth

coarse stone
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Wouldn't he have Achilles for the whole "training" thing though?

burnt halo
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or mental adulthood without any connotations of sexual maturity

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Megaera's a hardass

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so it could be different kinds of "training"

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(no innuendo meant)

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just actual training

coarse stone
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From what the hints and conversations were about Meg and Zag, they were pushed together romantically

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I think Hades more or less may have wanted Meg to train him up emotionally

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but also to be his bride

flat shell
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I wouldn't go to that extreme.

coarse stone
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since I think marriage was a huge milestone for the ancient Greeks

burnt halo
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not necessarily for gods though

atomic forge
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That doesn't sound too far off to me.

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Maybe not to be his bride, but definitely romantically intended.

flat shell
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It sounds like they became involved when she was supposed to be training him, had a REAL bad breakup, and then stopped interacting. Wouldn't be too far fetched to think Achilies got brought in after since the Meg approach didn't work.

burnt halo
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we're ascribing mortal human values to very explicitly non-human mindsets

coarse stone
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I think they broke up when Zag decided to go "Lol cya" to everyone

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Meg took it badly and it became a new Taylor Swift breakup song edition

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Only with an angry Fury

flat shell
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There's mention of them having a falling out because of some stuff Zagreus said in the past, and that Achilies knows better than to ask about that history.

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Which I took to mean he wasn't around to see or hear the fallout directly.

coarse stone
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Basically their relationship soured when Zag and Hades had a fallout

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and I think he wouldn't want to ask about that history

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because considering that Meg would probably be more likely to glare and whip him for asking

flat shell
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Yeah, he knows better, but that makes me think he wasn't around to see it happen? If that makes sense.

coarse stone
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Zag would shut that line of questioning down faster than Theseus' hopes for the rebellious shade

main gulch
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She could've been training him until achilles died on the surface since he doesn't know about their history

burnt halo
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i would disagree with that

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it seems like Achilles and Patroclus have been dead for some time

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based on some conversations, I don't think the current war is the one they died in

coarse stone
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Plus also, Meg is a private person

main gulch
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Well Meg and Zag could've fallen out that long ago too I suppose

coarse stone
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I think Zag would have kept their whole fallout from becoming gossip just to spare her the chaos

main gulch
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What the gods and shades consider a long time probably differs

burnt halo
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oh hell, yeah

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how old is Zagreus, I wonder

coarse stone
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so it's possible that no one else heard or saw the fallout between them (or it was kept veeeeeeeeeeeery secret)

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But yeah, I think Hades' idea of maturity for Zag just involved him having a romantic relationship (and considering Hades' personality, it's not like Meg or Zag would've had a choice in the matter)

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Basically I think Hades just arranged for Meg and Zag to get married, since that was one of the potential events to herald adulthood. Also echoes his relationship with Persephone in some myths (it being arranged by Zeus).

burnt halo
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I thought in most versions of that myth Hades either "stole"(kidnapped) Persephone or lured her to the Underworld?

coarse stone
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I think there was one where Hades went to Zeus saying that he wanted a bride and Zeus chose Persephone

wicked pier
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I dunno. Kinda almost having been in that situation; it kinda feels that Hades was trying to "make a man" out of Zagreus. As far as training goes; i think it was achilles that has been training zag for a while.

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And i'm pretty sure hades does not want to "marry" him off.

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When he did not marry anyone

coarse stone
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To be fair, marriage in ancient Greece was basically a man taking upon responsibilities to his new social group (his family)

wicked pier
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I dunno; maybe im projecting but it felt definitely like hades was trying to force zag to lose his virginity.

coarse stone
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and what has Hades whined about Zag not doing? Being responsible and helping him out with the Underworld's duties.

wicked pier
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Well; the story line and the character interactions are definitely more westernized

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Than they are ancient greek.

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I mean; we haven't seen zeus become a flameeater and impregnate the entire house of hades yet.

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So that is what I thought too

burnt halo
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the story is very much westernized

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that's perfectly okay

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but the values are 90% modern west

wicked pier
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Hades does not like his job; and feels obliged to do it. And wishes Zag would help him out like a father would like their son to take over the family business.

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But Zag is like no; i'm gonna go find my mom who abandoned me.

coarse stone
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I don't think Meg would even have reacted the way she did unless it was far MORE than just a duty to deal with

burnt halo
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and 10% weird abstract god shenanigans

wicked pier
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I'm sure Meg was into it.

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But if the king tells you to make a man out of your son; you don't say no.

coarse stone
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and the nuances of relationships are complicated at best. I think that if it was just that as a duty, she would've done it and been done with it.

wicked pier
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But it could be training as well. Maybe im reading into it. Anyways; that rememberance brought unpleasent memories.

coarse stone
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but if she was arranged to be in a relationship with him, then she would've gotten emotionally connected to him

wicked pier
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Probably. She does love zag.

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In one of the 8 forms

coarse stone
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the goal was to make a true man out of Zag by setting him up with someone who would be instrumental at working with him in the Underworld and trying to spur them into a romantic relationship

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Plus it wouldn't really make sense for SGG to avoid implications of squick to not cause any issues and then put an implication like that, seems counterproductive

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Plus, even in Western society, the whole marriage thing tends to be a gamechanger in terms of development. Hades didn't gamble on Zag being more stubborn than Bouldy.

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So it'd explain Meg's reaction to Zag and her relationship sinking faster than the Titanic when it saw Than smiling.

cunning needle
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good news, i have successfully held death's hand

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cutscene acquired

coarse stone
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Now time to convince Than to wear a fancy tux ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

strong fiber
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Assuming thereโ€™s never going to be a level after the hades fight isnโ€™t it a plot whole if zag talks to his mom right after fighting hades while hades has said heโ€™s never made it to the surface?
@nova turtle when does he talk to his mom? I've finished like 50 runs and thats never happened

wicked pier
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He does not?

deep spoke
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He doesn't, it's just a letter.

sharp axle
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I thought Meg and Zag broke up because Zag wants to escape the underworld, but Meg is stuck doing the Fury stuff, and can't leave the underworld.

runic terrace
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yeah, that was def part of it i think.....even past that, just a bad clash of personality sometimes and the strain of the way hades forced them into a relationship making them resistant to actually , like, work on things, too i think

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like u care abt things more when theyre "yours", and "arranged marriage but ooops we kinda caught feelings anyway" still has hades hanging over their heads when the going gets tough ๐Ÿ˜”

sharp axle
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When did Meg say it was arranged?

runic terrace
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i mean theres a rememberance abt like "this is megaera shell make a man out of u" which does leave some vaguery but i always interpreted it as "u are now an adult so settle down in a relationship NOW"

sharp axle
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erm

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At the very worst, if we are interpreting it in the very worst way possible, that would seem to imply sleeping together, not having a relationship?

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The neutral interpretation would be to learn responsibility from Meg, as she's way more responsible than he is

runic terrace
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i mean, when theres room, why interpret it the VERY worst way, is how i feel lol

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truuu

sharp axle
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Never in my entire life (before this) have I ever heard someone compare "being a man" to "being in a stable relationship

runic terrace
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i believe a famous movie said it had to do something with being as swift as a roaring river ๐Ÿค”

sharp axle
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But there's like thousands of bad book/movie tropes, where groups of teenage guys compare "being a man" to "sleeping with a woman"

flat shell
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That was actually my first thought on the line, Kam. just that song on loop for the rest of the run

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So seeing all of the relationship interpretations came out of left field for me

runic terrace
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meg, breaking up with zag: you will NEVER be mysterious as the dark side of the moon
zag: :C

deep spoke
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okay, but consider

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I'll Make a Man Out of You, but sung by Meg

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the whole thing

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someone convince her VA

runic terrace
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AAAAHHHHH.... shadehearts

deep spoke
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...although, in another universe

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it'd be funnier sung by Achilles

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with the Furies being the trio

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and one of them literally just sings MUUUUURDERRRRR for all of it

runic terrace
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๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

deep spoke
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actually hold up

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Zero to Hero, but it's in the style of Hymn to Zagreus.

runic terrace
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:0

deep spoke
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Including all the fantastical nonsense

runic terrace
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orpheus sings hercules movie songs.....

deep spoke
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and Zagreus just complaining in the background, for the entire thing, about how the entire damn thing is made up

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"IT WAS A JOKE, ORPHEUS"

flat shell
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Only if Orpheus is lead muse.

deep spoke
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"FOR THE NTH TIME, I DO NOT DO THE DAMSEL THING"

runic terrace
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meg singing i wont say im in love.......... :'>

deep spoke
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you know, I used to write a looot of Disney song parodies

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all Warframe related, but I wonder

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if I find my... muse (heh) again, I could try my hand at some Hades filk lyrics

flat shell
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...Honestly, the worst part of this is thinking about Hades-Hades acting like the one from Hercules.

deep spoke
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...yes

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who's Pain and Panic though

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Skelly and Skelly, switching costumes.

runic terrace
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hades: [HEAD GOES ON FIRE] alright im cool im cool

deep spoke
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that's it

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that's his second phase

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hades, but his head is on fire

hollow charm
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And his beard

deep spoke
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on that note

flat shell
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Is that what ignites his cape...?

deep spoke
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I find it HILARIOUS that his beard is, well, shaped like the insignia of the House

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or vice versa

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their entire logo is just his facial hair

hollow charm
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He can combust his hair at will so ye

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Thats whar happens to the cape

deep spoke
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Does anyone else laugh their ass off when they consider that fact

flat shell
#

Actually, why on earth do his and Zagreus' feet make fire? Like, now that we're talking about Hades and fire stuff?

deep spoke
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Zagreus is fast, you know?

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He's quite the

flat shell
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Is that some myth I'm missing or is it just There

deep spoke
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hot foot

flat shell
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If iit was Zagreus alone fine I could accept it (nice btw)

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But Hades gets it, too

hollow charm
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Maybe to signify they're part of the world beneath the earth's crust?

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Mantle = lava

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Also hell

flat shell
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Maybe but it is a pretty striking feature that... isn't even talked about in game at all. I remember going "OH he can do it, too!" during the final boss fight when I used the footprints as a tell for where he was going to appear, but there wasn't anything about it in-game.

sharp axle
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Zagโ€™s feet leave a fire trail to help players keep track of him. Itโ€™s the same reason many fast-paced games give characters a long Cape, scarf, or hair, to trail behind the character

nova turtle
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when does he talk to his (zagerus) mom? I've finished like 50 runs and thats never happened

@strong fiber Iโ€™m not sayinโ€™ thereโ€™s a scene yet of zagerus talking to his mother. Iโ€™m just saying that when they add content if zagerus were to be able to talk to his mom right after defeating hades it could create a plot hole. Because hades has mentioned he tried to escape to find persephone himself and gave up. Knowing that hades could himself go to that next level yet never found persephone, while zag did would be a plot hole

halcyon nacelle
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not a plot hole if Persephone did something to not let Hades find her, but allowed Zag to

nova turtle
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Yeah that's why I said it's a possible plot hole

wicked pier
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Wait! When does Hades say he went to look for her?

native marlin
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he never does, but he did try to escape the underworld

sharp axle
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I think for lore reasons, he can't leave the underworld

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It sounds believable that he might try to escape this restriction, to look for her, but failing because he's stuck there

fiery flower
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Yea it does.

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Not normal interaction, but during banter in the final fight

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something something Zag said about Hades not trying to or not knowing something about the way out

sharp axle
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(Disclaimer: in traditional Greek mythology, he could technically leave the underworld, but this is a different interpretation)

fiery flower
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Hades said Zag's an idiot.

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Sounds like Hades tried

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but got brutally killed by the narrator

pure plaza
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Sounds like the Final FINAL boss is the Narrator!

fiery flower
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Secret super boss dream sequence where Zag dreamt he died, got back to the house, and found everyone fighting a 20x scaled version of the Poet bust going full disco mode and blast laser everywhere like stage 2 Hades.

heady rain
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he says that as a pre-run dialogue

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i don't recall him saying that in fight

strong fiber
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what exactly does he say

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now im cutrious

lusty barn
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I don't know if this counts as a spoiler, but I just want to say, facing Theseus and Asterius with Extreme Conditions is the greatest thing I have seen in this game. I had Asterius as the mini boss so I was expecting... something similar. I lost two DDs with an admittedly terrible build, but I can't help but blame my attention loss while watching a machine gun armed super chariot with theseus taunting me maniacally.

nova turtle
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I remember in the house of hades him sayinโ€™ that if he couldnโ€™t make out of the underworld, you canโ€™t

wicked pier
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Well you got a rail? He got even better.

hollow charm
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i haven't seen theseus pull that out yet but i am imagining something both terrifying and amazing i cant wait

deep spoke
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And hilarious

hollow charm
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im just imagining theseus Finally Having Enough

nova turtle
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Itโ€™s with extreme measures maxed to have gatling gun thesus

fiery flower
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Max out forced overtime so that Asterius can finally fly into space with his spin attack

lusty barn
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Isnt underworld customs the boon loss one?

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I dont remember all the names well

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I thought extreme measures added stuff to the bosses

fiery flower
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yea extreme measures buff the bosses

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underworld customs forces you to sell something in the breakroom between biomes

lusty barn
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And now I want to face it with the adamant rail. I was spear.

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maybe I wont laugh as hard and die as much

fiery flower
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Theseus falling on his face when the chariot breaks is funny though

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Good thing he's dead otherwise his face would be on the arena's floor taking up space from his ego

lusty barn
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Oh man, I gotta do extreme measures there again.

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Also, speaking of the arena, I would LOVE it if more of the arena turns red the more arena wins you have

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start with none, get the one dude (aka best shade ever), then every win adds another one or two. Every loss at arena takes one or two away

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it would be awesome. And have theseus comment on it at certain thresholds

fiery flower
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Theseus: "How dare you fiend, turning my own arena into your playground. I shall see to it that your wretched visage be scoured from this sacred place. Asterius, are you ready?"
Asterius: Picks up Theseus riding his gold-plated murder shopping cart and throws them at Zagreus.

lusty barn
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Btw, what is theseus saying when he gets chucked? I always am zipping around to read the subs

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is it BULLHORN! ?

fiery flower
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Bullhorn?

lusty barn
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cuz thats amazing

hollow charm
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it took me a while to realise asterius was lobbing theseus at you

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i just thought theseus was teleporting or did a charge

errant mango
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I have to thank you for the mental image of Asterius swinging Theseus' chariot like a battleaxe while he's shooting. It's probably not going to happen BUT I WISH

atomic forge
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Asterius using the spin attack with one of the gatling gun barrels as the shaft of his weapon.

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If he uses the spin attack too many times in one life Theseus throws up.

deep spoke
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Yeet

burnt harbor
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I got the butterfly ball five times in a row :v

nova turtle
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Iโ€™ll pray for you

stoic pond
#

May I add on to this that Theseus maniacal laughter when using the gun on his chariot is the best thing...?
(as well as the satisfaction of destroying said chariot and having him eat dust.)

halcyon raptor
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how do you unlock the different weapon aspects? I've only got the spear one so far

lusty barn
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Thats all there is Springfart

halcyon raptor
#

oooh really

tame bronze
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Man time flies

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13 days till next update right?

hazy grove
#

Feels like yesterday we were all ooh-ing over Icy Grandma.

tame bronze
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Ikr

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About two weeks time who knows what the update will hold

burnt harbor
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TFW there is a leap year

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Just to make one suffer

coarse stone
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Yesterday, Icy Grandma, today, shiny new pokey stick to use on Bad Dad

spring remnant
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I put 100 hours in this game only to find out that I got FRIEND ZONED BY DUSA hobbWeird I want my 100 hours back hobbWeird

lusty barn
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I mean, would you go against Nyx?

nova barn
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So anyone else thinking that Zagreus is reaching the surface in the middle of the Peloponnesian War?

fiery flower
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I think the "war" is actually just a war for resource since the long winter depleted just about all the foodstock.

coarse stone
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Yeah, it'd also make sense because of Thanatos getting work

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When he's the god of peaceful deaths

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(War deaths would not be his domain. Too violent.)

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So people are probably being doomed by the cold (hypothermia) and the fact that food doesn't grow anymore :x #LetsBlameDemeter

red saffron
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im not gonna lie, the way the game describes the weapons as like borderline sentient and destined to kill stuff is like a bit sus (the codex describes exagryph as "possessed with an eternal hunger to destroy")

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it feels like after zagreus canonically leaves hades his weapons will get out into the world and, yknow, kill stuff

coarse stone
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Sounds like Soul Edge tbh

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and it's hard to destroy things without legs

red saffron
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bold statement right there

coarse stone
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Unless they can change their shape at will to actually be more mobile, they'd require someone getting their hands on them in order to actually do damage ๐Ÿ˜›

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GL finding someone who can use a rail gun in ancient Greece...or until the industrial era lol

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(well, aside from Zag. He's a bit of an oddity)

red saffron
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idk where ur getting the idea that the weapons will like kill stuff on their own from but a sword with legs sounds like a great idea that this game really needs

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can we just replace zagreus' model with the weapon itself but with legs

spiral pond
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Stygius sword Aspect of Zagreus +, the weapon is now a t-pose zagreus and is being held by stygius which has limbs

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the most cursed weapon in this game

coarse stone
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Call it "Insane Mode" too

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because Hades declares that his son finally drove him insane ๐Ÿ˜›

primal cipher
#

I really want to try hell mode but I'm saving it for 1.0 :/ is that dumb? Should I just do it? I'm just afraid of getting burnt out

lunar ibex
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I'd recommend saving it

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Maybe even take a break for a bit so that you can come back to fresh content and a fresh take on the game

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I would like to do that but Im helplessly addicted

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Now im grinding out everything on hell mode

heady rain
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hell mode isn't honestly that much different, you're just forced to up the heat and have no mercy i-frames

lunar ibex
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Yeah but it still gives you a new sense of purpose

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I think it also forces you to go at the current heat or above with any given weapon

deep spoke
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I like my suffering moderate.

lunar ibex
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medium rare

deep spoke
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RAAAAAAAW

heady rain
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i mean i literally did the same thing on my normal playthrough

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(and admittedly i want to grind finish my first save file and just be done with it for now)

lunar ibex
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The last thing I have to do is get 32 on every weapon. I tried higher than 32 and it becomes more stressful than fun

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I can't wait for when someone gets a win on 50 heat in hell mode

fiery flower
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thanthink
Hades, but all enemy attack sound cue are replaced with Theseus' maniacal laugh at maxxed EM.

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Speed up and slowdown accordingly.

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Numbskulls would have a high pitched short laugh.

hollow mortar
#

Dusaโ€™s squeals for enemy attack sounds dusa

spiral pond
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the nipple couple

frigid lodge
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hades, but skelly and theseus swap places so you can just beat on theseus when you wanna

spiral pond
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thanatos and zagreus

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hell yes

marsh grove
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Im looking forward to the updates and completion to know what the hell is going on and why grandma froze the world

flat shell
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She'll tell you what she's done and why point blank through her nectar-unlocked conversations.

marsh grove
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Im busy spending my nectar on meg and dusa, Ill get around to her later then

sacred tulip
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I have a question someone here may be able to answer, is there ever a clear indication of what time period it is on the surface? Because I half expect our first experience up there to be nearly being run over by a truck or something, instead of ancient Greece.

marsh grove
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Zagreus is secretly an isekai protagonist?

sacred tulip
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Only if he gets hit by truck-kun

atomic forge
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The card does say Chariot.

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Also: Isekai is barely a genre, much more a setting.

sacred tulip
#

Also.. technically Zag is totally isekai as soon as he leaves the underworld, since it really just means from another world.

wicked pier
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Well you DO get run over by a chariot

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But it's still a chariot and not a car; so probably ancient greek times.

modern hearth
#

That reminds me

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What's the deal with there even being chariots

wicked pier
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Pretty old at that; since Demeter is currently throwing her temper tantrum; and that by mythology is the past by ancient greek standarts.

modern hearth
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Are they possessed by the shade of their driver or something

wicked pier
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They do have drivers.

modern hearth
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Do they really

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lol

wicked pier
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The shades are tiny balls; you don't see them inside i think

modern hearth
#

Alright

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I play a distance away and also have colorblindness so I thought they were just sentient chariots.

wicked pier
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But the page says they have drivers so shadeeyeroll

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I think the drivers are mentioned only in their page.

modern hearth
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I was just wondering how they'd be in the afterlife as inanimate objects but having drivers makes more sense

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But!

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How tf does that explain the tiny chariots

wicked pier
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I never managed to see them.

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Tiny people have tiny souls?

modern hearth
#

wow

hollow mortar
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We are talking about a universe with big pink balls and hydras. Logic can go either way ๐Ÿ˜‚

spiral pond
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mentioned about the ball, why cant i deflect the butterfly

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i know it doesnt make sense but i kinda wish it will

modern hearth
#

Have you run into Bophades yet?

spiral pond
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No

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I swear to god, if you make that joke I will kick your nut

modern hearth
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lol :^)

spiral pond
#

you got got

signal palm
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only one?

modern hearth
#

touche

spiral pond
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i will kick bophades nuts

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so you can ligma

lunar ibex
#

Bophades jokers can ligma poms

deep spoke
#

That's a lot of nuts!

lunar ibex
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Happy leap year day

spiral pond
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@lunar ibex sugma poseidon watery nuts

torn schooner
#

Y'all I got a theory

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Persephone gets kidnapped by Hades to be his wife and Persephone's MOM DEMETER gives the earth a winter wonderland makeover until Persephone returns home

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so that means when zag escapes no one knows where Persephone is

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due to it snowing when you escape

spiral pond
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Lol we knew it since the beginning

torn schooner
#

ah I see

tranquil shore
#

ahem

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So

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I never thought it would happen

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But...

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I got to clap Fury cheeks

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I came here to say that.......and im not sure why
But it had to be said

torn schooner
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AND WE. ARE . PROUD!

lunar ibex
#

I've already suggested it in feedback, but I would kill to have a fish tank for all my friends

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Knucklehead makes me smile every time

hollow charm
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or even a fishing log with pics of the fish you caught in the codex or in your room maybe (but thats just the completionist in me wanting that)

storm drift
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or unlockable improvements that require catching each fish

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to fill up the bar more, not enough stuff in it

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or more sadly, maybe it can be on the chopping block with knives in it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lunar ibex
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Or a fish tank full of knuckleheads that I cant watch for hours on end

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You know, with five dashes and a level 3 epic athena call, i was finding phase 2 hades to be significantly easier than phase 1

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I like how one of the deaths at the end is just that Zag knows you can die a sizable variety of ways

midnight oxide
#

Are they gonna add more stuff after you beat hades? Like areas that involve how zagreus climbed mount olympus?

lunar ibex
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Pretty sure yes

bold niche
#

I still think, there has to be at least something, after all the renovations in the underworld will be finished.. Maybe not exactly Zag's travel across the overworld, finding his mom, or even saving the world from eternal blizzard.. Maybe just a cutscene, about how he got what he was looking for.. The answers. Something like this.

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..and then got a rock in his head, lost part of his memory and started all over again

hollow mortar
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Zagreus: I finally know it all!
Bouldy appears
Zagreus dies
Zagreus: Hypnos, what happened? I donโ€™t remember anything!โ€
Hypnos: You died again squirtyay

burnt harbor
#

If you complete all Lounge upgrades before finishing the game there is a special epilogue where all the cast (Except Theseus) go celebrate Zag's reunion with his mom

coarse stone
#

Except Demeter. Who is arguing with Hades. While Nyx has the "Oh would you two just shut up already?" face.

lusty barn
#

So there are only 5 companions right now right? Any idea on what the last one will be?

stoic pond
#

Maybe one from Hypnos?

native marlin
#

I'd love to have a Hypnos companion

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Though it'd be dope if we could get a Achilles/Patroclus duo companion thing

stoic pond
#

Ohh I'd love that too. I'd love more with Achilles and Patroclus in general.

atomic forge
#

Just finished it, for the first time. What a ride! But I can't help sympathize with Lord Himself. Just the way he talks about outside world and olympus, I'm getting underlining narrative that somehow flipped him over, delegated to him underworld unwillingly, making him the prisoner of his own domain and lured Persephone outside. Or is it just me? Almost all Gods are egotistical buffoons, and Hades is just scornfully trying to save Zag from their shenanigans. Why are they so interested in getting him out in the first place?

lunar kiln
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bc they think zag will just come join them in olympus and do whatever they do up there

#

there is more story beyond just reaching the surface

pseudo escarp
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we know demeter is persephone's mother, and she get's her during the summer and hades should get her during the winter.

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or the other way around

hollow charm
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Persephone is meant to herald the spring, if i remember rightly

native marlin
#

@atomic forge if it's your first clear I'd recommend to avoid this channel for a while! There's a lot you can still discover ingame

lunar kiln
#

except we dont even know if thats actually whats happening yet

pseudo escarp
#

Guess we'll have to wait

native marlin
#

we mostly use this channel to discuss different end-game spoilers

lunar kiln
#

||demeter herself caused the neverending winter bc she believes the mortals took her daughter away from her||

pseudo escarp
#

True

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I also maxed out on Dusa

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next one i maxed out for now was artimis

indigo cipher
#

do you get anything other than voice lines for maxing out gods?

winter thicket
#

technically no, but Demeter has a long-running chain of convos about the Olympians and ||Persephone|| - i still haven't reached the end! - pretty important backstory, imo

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also early access, they might add more content for every god, etc.

hollow mortar
#

There are still locked hearts in their codex entries dusa

leaden sand
#

how does one get the gift of song achievement? i think i got everything so far with the orpheus and the harp interactions but nothing yet

hollow mortar
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You have to practice after each run until Zag plays melodiously. It will take many times before you get the achievement

maiden coyote
#

i just beat hades for the first time

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well no

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i just beat hades and then ate lunch

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but I'm still feeling good from it

modern falcon
#

Another one bites the dust

#

tu tu tum tum tum

tranquil shore
#

Just thought id point out for no particular reason

#

Theres a little area up the top right after you beat the game, where it will tell you what disciple you got (eg: Disciple of Hermes, Scion of Chaos, etc...) basically saying you got most of their boons.

#

This can change depending on the run, or at least it said "The Big Five Oh" after my 50th completion

#

I now wonder what 100 would be

leaden sand
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well its medodious now and ive had about 2-3 interactions with orpheus in regards to it

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but the achievement hadnt gotten through yet

nova turtle
#

how do I unlock dusa quest?

modern hearth
#

Have you gifted her enough Nectar?

#

If you have, then her favor is "to complete a minimum of 12 Lounge-focused renovations, which must include at least one rug for the area as well as cleaning up Cerberus's fur and the scratches he left in the floor".

#

I'm unsure if there's like a cutscene trigger for it or not like Meg had, I haven't done it yet myself.

nova turtle
#

Yeah I literally sent that because I thought it should happen soonish and then my next talk with dusa addressed exactly that and I unlocked the right to gift her further finally
Thanks though

modern hearth
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Right on

severe cradle
#

Beat hades for the first time. Couldn't help but laugh out loud when the narrator said "Let's just pretend for now that he got absolutely clobbered."

pseudo escarp
#

he isn't gnna say sike

mighty tinsel
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@severe cradle It gets better with each time

modern hearth
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For some reason Meg's favor won't unlock for me. I got her up to the locked heart and the scene where she gets her stuff from Zag's room happened but I've cycled through several times (at least 20) since and she still has yet to show up in the room a second time to give her favor.

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I see her in the House a ton but she just keeps saying something along the lines of "You're the reason I'm even here".

modern hearth
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By talking about it here I willed it into happening

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Ayy

hollow mortar
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Yaaay ๐ŸŒˆ

lunar ibex
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The end death descriptions are awesome. I hope they put in Easter eggs that allude to them or just keep them in

mighty tinsel
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There are a handful of voiclines that sadly exist as placeholder for "Oh yeah this is empty for now"

worthy nexus
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Anyone got any guesses for what the new weapon might be? Weโ€™ve got such a wide range already itโ€™s hard to picture something new. I thought maybe an axe or daggers?

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Though itโ€™s unlikely, Iโ€™d love to have a chariot to race Theseus in.

deep spoke
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Aspect of Car, lmao

haughty carbon
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๐Ÿš™

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Beep beep

signal palm
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Aspect of Truck
Every enemy defeated is reincarnated into another world

spiral pond
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what is this diavolo reference

spiral pond
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ok but why is meg in my room monkaS

haughty carbon
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to take back the stuffโ„ข๏ธ

spiral pond
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what stuff monkaS

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i dont remember i took her stuff

modern falcon
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it implies you have been spending a lot of time there together in the past

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offcamera

lunar ibex
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@worthy nexus Maybe a flail?

spiral pond
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Oh god

worthy nexus
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That would be cool. Similar mechanics to a whip without ripping off the furies

lunar ibex
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I wonder where that chef gets all of those resources.... Something's off about that one

spiral pond
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A sniper

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wait thats bow

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what if theres a modifier for gun to be one shot for all bullets at once

lunar ibex
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Like aspect of shotgun?

modern falcon
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i dont think those have been invented yet

lunar ibex
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I've had a rocket shotgun before on rail

spiral pond
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you mean the spread shot?

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I mean more of something like just straight up empty the mag and shoot one giant pierce shot at enemy

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basically how to make hestia even more broken 101

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oh wait you cant since hestia will not get the benefit of manual reload

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think this will be more useful on zag or eris

lunar ibex
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You get rocket bomb and cluster bomb and it forms a rocket shotgun

nova turtle
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Iโ€™d like to see another light weapon that allows you to dash out of attacks
While having midrange

Or a slow weapon that hits hard like an axe

modern falcon
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i meant the concept of a shotgun in the mortal world above

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but i see how i was confusing there

hollow charm
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i finally got theseus into his machine gun chariot and it was every bit as amazing as i thought it'd be

frigid lodge
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tomahawks yoshiwoke

flat shell
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But yeah Fade, at first he gets on him for being slower in his duties, then full on reprimands him and threatens him (an empty one but one nonetheless) in full view after you max him out. And thus: murder time commenced on my end.

spiral pond
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Threatens him?

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i remembered seeing one convo about him not happy with his productivity

flat shell
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He asks him to explain himself and it sounded pretty threatening

spiral pond
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but hades said "dw about that everyone needs break even gods"

flat shell
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then he realized he couldn't do crud so lmao

spiral pond
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I thought it would have a cutscene similar to meg's

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like before you escape

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Ok so I saw the first one then

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I havent seen the second one

flat shell
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Oh! I didn't know that existed, actually, I thought you meant the like. Conversations, not flashbacks?

spiral pond
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Not flashback, its when you got back

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and then listen between them

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thats the one i know

flat shell
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Ah. Then yeah, my information's still accurate.

spiral pond
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but so far ive maxed out all 3 lovers

flat shell
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There's another that'll proc later, eventually, at some point.

spiral pond
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wait, so how do you unlock all companions

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so far i got meg

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are all companions complete?

flat shell
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If you've maxed Thanatos out, you should've gotten Mort, so you're not quite there yet, then?

spiral pond
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tbh at one point i thought skelly's prize IS the companion

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im maxed him out but he rarely shows up

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tsundere he is

signal palm
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you are not maxed if you don't have than's or dusa's

spiral pond
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I jsut cant give him the ambrosia yet

flat shell
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If it has a lock on it, that isn't maxed.

spiral pond
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or even enter my room yet

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Oh ok

flat shell
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If it has a timer, it's incomplete.

spiral pond
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I think its timer

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should i wait

signal palm
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it's not

flat shell
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Nope, it'd be a locked heart for Thanatos, Dusa, and Skelly.

signal palm
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the clock means the content has not been added yet

spiral pond
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im not sure lemme check

signal palm
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it's definitely a lock if it hasn't progressed

spiral pond
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Ah ok

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then what about cerber

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i want more doggi pet

flat shell
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We don't even know if Cerberus will get one, but you can always pet that pup

spiral pond
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doooes he has a companion

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Oh he doesnt

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I wish you get three headed puppy of him

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as companion

frigid lodge
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i wonder what the plan is for maxing out gods in the future

spiral pond
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fight them!

frigid lodge
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a permanent rarity increase to their boons would make sense but might be a bit unbalanced especially with the mirror limited heat thingy active

spiral pond
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Okay but i just checked the wiki

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and im disappointed to know that thanatos or meg's companion are not workable on hades

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but why

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sad.

flat shell
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He's their BOSS

signal palm
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they work for him

modern falcon
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his their boss

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hes*

spiral pond
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I still wanna nuke him

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come on now

frigid lodge
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hit him with rock

flat shell
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And that'd probably be a step too far beyond what he could, as their boss, be ALLOWED to forgive. Or would be willing to.

spiral pond
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Lol

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but wouldnt he be pissed against sissypuss even more

flat shell
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What's he gonna do to Sisyphus, torture him in Tartarus?

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oh no what ever will he do

spiral pond
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oh wait already did

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bruh

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so shady is the best huh

flat shell
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They've all got their place, just depends on what you wanna use them for.

spiral pond
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i mean i can already slap hades pretty hard without these toys

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provided im still low heat

shy nimbus
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Hey guys, when will be the next update?

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Been a long time I play the game. Have been waiting for that new weapn ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

drifting citrus
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9~ish days i believe?

haughty carbon
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yeah in like 9 days

tame bronze
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The hype intensifies

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4 more days until Castlevania Season 3 and then a Hades update not too long after. Thank you March.

wicked pier
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@shy nimbus you can also check when the next update is scheduled in game; it's on the title screen.

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There is also a roadmap on what they plan on adding.

spring remnant
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I neeeeeed that teaser hobbGasm I need to be even more hyped for it

haughty carbon
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We may get a trailer for it. Though isn't a promise of new weapon is enough to generate hype?

burnt harbor
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Daedalus: Got a new weapon for you, Zag. It's a tank.

Zag: Thank you, mate.

native marlin
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macedonian 2.0

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Theseus' chariot is the new weapon

burnt harbor
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The new final boss is a recently dead Alexander t Jr at being Alexander plans on conquering the underworld

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That's why Ares and than are so busy the game is set on the Macedonian conquests

glad lion
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I had I dream last night that the new weapon was a Chariot lol
It played pretty interestingly lol

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It was one of the mini chariots that Zag stole lol
He used it as a melee weapon and punching with it (it had like a bite attack since they are like cat chariots lol), then you could charge your attack to ride it around gliding and ramming into enemies, its special was its explosion attack in a radius around you
So like shield attack, Poseidon call as charge, and old sword special

exotic copper
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oops, wrong chat x0

spring remnant
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"new weapon: chariot. No, you don't ride in it, you just pick it up and throw it at bad guys."

glad lion
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It was really interesting though LOL
I would have loved for it to be in game

haughty carbon
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"Afterwards it explodes and doesn't return. Have fun with that dash/cast only run"

modern hearth
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LOL

spring remnant
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then it turns out the weapon was just fisticuffs the whole time hobbPega

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actually some sort of boxing gloves-type weapon would be interesting hobbLUL but I'm hoping for 1 more ranged

modern hearth
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I would love a punching weapon

glad lion
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I really like the torch idea people had

burnt harbor
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Jokes on us, theya re already used to the heat in Tartarus

radiant harbor
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Hey does anyone know how to get the Defiance boon from Chaos? I have every other prophecy and every other boon but it never comes up for me

worthy nexus
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It just showed for me one time out of nowhere lol. I think you need at least one other Chaos boon to unlock it. But Iโ€™ve only ever seen it once

glad lion
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I believe its random? That or you need to already have 1 other Chaos boon? Either way its really rare, I've only seen it once since the update

radiant harbor
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Do you have to have already used a death defiance? I don't even know what it does, I keep standing in lava so I can come with none left

glad lion
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It gives you an extra death defiance, you don't need to have used one already

native marlin
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it gives you an extra death defiance slot AND a death defiance iirc

radiant harbor
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Alright, cool I'll stop standing in lava

drifting citrus
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you just need already have a chaos boon beforehand, itโ€™s really rare

native marlin
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I thought that both Chaos & Hermes Legendary boons worked like the rest of the Gods (Tier 1 > Tier 2 > Legendary) but since they didn't have tiers they were bound to show up on the third boon

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I was completely wrong though

stoic pond
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huh... I actually have seen it a bunch of times.... not as often as the others.. but like.. 5+ for sure... And not always taken it.
(Because sometimes what it required was not really worth it... despite having another DD being really great. If it's going to make you lose DD's the question is if you're not better off without htat one extra one.)

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Then again for a good while I always used the cosmic egg at the beginning and always took any lights of ixion I could find and always enter chaos gates.

hollow charm
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so i was reading up on heracles's mythos out of curiosity, and according to it he once wrestled with thanatos on behalf of a prince admetus, and let me tell you it gave me a very amusing mental image...

hollow charm
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"By hiding beside the grave of Alcestis, Heracles was able to surprise Death when he came to collect her, and by squeezing him tight until he relented, was able to persuade Death to return Alcestis to her husband."

thanatos got bearhugged by heracles that one time

hollow mortar
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Luna is oh-so-lucky dusa

tame bronze
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Poor Than can't catch a break

marble prawn
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Cant tell if I'm impatient or if I'm doing something wrong shadeembarassed

How many renovations do I have to do until I can complete Dusa's favour? And I've yet to get either of the scenes for Meg/Thanatos to trigger aa

coarse stone
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Poor Than, he probably was not amused with Heracles. Probably wanted to teach him about personal space.

signal palm
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you need 12(?) lounge things, which includes a rug and the cerberus cleaning stuff iirc @marble prawn

marble prawn
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Oh, alright thanks!

lunar ibex
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When you first fought dad, right as you walk in and heโ€™s facing away, did anyone else think he was already facing you and just had a weird jucked up face? The back of his head is bizarre looking

haughty carbon
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Like always. I am trying to understand what kind of helmet he is wearing

lunar ibex
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I thought it was a very awkward haircut along with very bizarre skin rolls

haughty carbon
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I mean it's the man that formed his bear into sign of the house

worthy nexus
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Oh boy. I finally got Than and Zag together. After chasing him around and giving him presents for eternity, he finally shows up in Zag's bedroom and I haven't been this happy since the first time I thrashed Theseus.

haughty carbon
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Congrats!

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Now Than will look more smug at zag than ever before.

restive elk
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One moment you love it, and the next your hard earned centaur heart is casually dropped in the lava.

stoic pond
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Wait. Wait. Than can show up in Zags bedroom?
I've given Than all the presents I could ages ago and talked to him and he never did.

flat shell
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it can take a while, but yeah, just gotta be patient.

stoic pond
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Than was the first whom I maxed....

haughty carbon
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eventually Than will show up yeah. it just takes a lot of time to say other stuff, but it's purely due to how rng is set up

stoic pond
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I had meg show up already.

haughty carbon
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Than is just the least to activate so easily it seems

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a lot of people have trouble getting him show up rng wise.

stoic pond
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Ah I hope I'll still get it to happen then and didn't miss out on it for some reason.

flat shell
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It's impossible to miss once it's unlocked!

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but no, I hear you, the random chance on it feels ROUGH.

prime ravine
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I had Dusa ask me to Zags bedroom, and when we went, Meg was there at the same time, and both cutscenes played simultaneously.

runic terrace
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oh my GOD......AWKWARD

haughty carbon
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oh-oh

runic terrace
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dusa: meg if youll excuse me im trying to turn down a guy
meg: yeah dont worry ill just be here for moral support and you can hand him over when youre done
zag: one of you needs to leave. this is really really awkward

prime ravine
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It was... interesting.

haughty carbon
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Dusa: I am here to say no, but I am also here to support meg.
Meg: Yea-Wait how did you know?
Zag: Please leave, I can't handle different news at the same time.

stray frigate
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add Than to the mix and Zag might just combust

atomic forge
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Imagine Than, Dusa, Meg and also Achilles in your room at the same time, you know something wrong is going on at this point

hollow mortar
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Even Achilles?! XD

runic terrace
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oh you all know whats going on....... ;)))).............. group therapy

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grab a seat, we're learning about healthy coping mechanisms

burnt harbor
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Achilles is a loyal man who only has eyes for one person

haughty carbon
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man the sweet sweet group therapy

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all it costed some ambrosia and friendship power.

atomic forge
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Oh yeah, even add Patroclus

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I made some researches tho and apparently these two were lovers in real

worthy nexus
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Oh yeah you bet

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Man they actually do need some therapy though

frigid lodge
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in the underworld therapy is knocking the stuffing out of each other

modern hearth
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Haha just got my 4th streak and Zag was finally rewarded with some fun whip time with Meg. I've been waiting forever for this scene to proc. The ship has once again sailed.

runic terrace
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every time a therapist dies all the house of hades residents just SCRAMBLE to get their services before hades can wave them away to their proper section hfjhfhj

coarse stone
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Then they had the bright idea to name Thanatos the Underworld Therapist.

hollow charm
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Im just imagining these shades waiting in queue, making idle chit chat while waiting for their turn, and one shade goes "ah yes i did therapy in life-" and is instantly mobbed

runic terrace
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incredibly risky move but he'd give it a solid try

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YEAH

hollow charm
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What they need tho

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Is

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A family counsellor

runic terrace
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hoooooo boy they do

hollow charm
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To help with... whatever thorny mess hades and zag's relationship has become

main gulch
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"being dead is a real bummer you know"

frigid lodge
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zag, nyx and hades made to go on a family outing to an underworld beach to reconnect

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hades tends the barbecue

hollow charm
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Omg

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Its perfect

runic terrace
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family counselor: i just think you should practice speaking calmly to your son-
hades: (snaps fingers) you are now a wretch. go kill my miserable son
zag: father thats the fifth one this month

hollow charm
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Ohgod

frigid lodge
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get one of the olympians to mediate on godly skype, hades can't wave them away

runic terrace
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hades, to the line: are there any of you with a liscense who will inform my awful child that im right about everything, actually,
everyone on line whos a therapist: [nervous murmurs]
hades: need i remind you that theres really no one who can take a dead persons liscence away

hollow charm
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Family counselor: why don'tyou both be honest with your feelings?
Zag: fine, I'll go first. Father, my honest feelings are... I get a lot of catharsis in beating the stuffing out of you.
Hades: I too enjoy venting my pent up frustrations by maiming you horribly
Family counsellor:

runic terrace
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ghfchgcghdcghdcghdcghdcghdgh

coarse stone
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Or Aphrodite as the family counselor

runic terrace
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family counselor: can we maybe reach a compromise
zag: ...okay. i will try to be a little nicer if youll-
hades: -ill act exactly the same
zag: haha yeah no bye

hollow charm
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No wait, aphrodite and dio tag-team an attempted mediation

runic terrace
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ghfcghdhg read that as meditation for a moment

coarse stone
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Aphrodite: Lets hug it out

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Dio: I'M NOT DRUNK ENOUGHF OR THIS YET

runic terrace
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STOP FIGHTING....JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES.....

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DEEP BREATHING

hollow charm
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Dio: i have the perfect solution

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Dio: what if

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Dio: we all get drunk

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Dio: then we'll all be happy, and if we fight, we'll be so black out drunk we won't remember, so no hard feelings!

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Zag: i think we will have to be permanently drunk for that to work
Dio: yeah? So?

coarse stone
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Aphrodite: We're not all you Dio.

runic terrace
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zag at individual therapy like
zag: and HERES what my dad did TODAY etc etc
therapist: ....and how did that make you feel
zag: idk what ur talking about ummmmmm uh have a nectar

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ghfghfcgdcghdghdghdgh

coarse stone
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Or a therapist counselling Dusa

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Ther: How does it make you feel?

hollow charm
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Zag is the cat skitting around a spider with jts back arched and on its tippy toes when it comes to examining his feelings tbh

runic terrace
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dusa would make the best use at a therapist tbh ;;w;;

coarse stone
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Dusa: Honestly, I wish people would stop making a mess in the lounge

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Would it really KILL them to actually clean up after themselves?

runic terrace
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whos gonna tell zag that giving ur therapists fancy presents is against their rules

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hgfchjfhjfhjfhj

coarse stone
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What if Hades is Zag's therapist

runic terrace
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awful

hollow charm
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Therapist: is this a bribe
Zag: yeessssssnnnnnoooo??

runic terrace
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HJFGJFJH

coarse stone
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Zag: It worked on Meg!

runic terrace
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zag: y....n.....................okay what do YOU want it to be

coarse stone
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Imagine Zag offering Nectar to Tisiphone

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to "smooth out" their differences

hollow charm
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Hades as the therapist would be

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Awful

coarse stone
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Therapist Tisiphone

runic terrace
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tisiphone: (drinking) mmmmmMMMMMMMMMM
zag: ..,...is that good

hollow charm
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They'd just start attacking each other with the chairs or smth