#h1-story-discussion

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opal wing
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I see...

zealous inlet
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63 runs later

drifting citrus
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a lot of the stuff for the routes involve just waiting for the game to give you the next convo

zealous inlet
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i dunno that bouldy says nada

plucky night
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Yeah Im still waiting on Sisyphus

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I think its because I havent gifted meg enough?

zealous inlet
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i'll have to do more of that

plucky night
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I dont have the convo to get the item to buy

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Yeah. Thanatos in particular is a pain.

misty pollen
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when can i gift the boulder ? already got around 5 nectar to sisyphus

plucky night
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Every time he shows up I gotta be ready with a gift or its never gonna get done

opal wing
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I want to try a different hera build than arte or dio/zeus

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but i cant decide

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probably athena?

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ohh maybe I should go to gameplay

zenith leaf
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athena zeus could be fun

drifting citrus
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hunting blades hera kills, but that's only because hunting blades kills in general

zenith leaf
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yeah hunting blades isn't really any better with hera than anything else

plucky night
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I did a zeus/pos and it was cool

misty pollen
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zeus pos is nice

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zeus pos demeter is also nice if you manage to get the cast double boon

plucky night
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Yeah thats what I did

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Focus on pos most then zeus then demeter

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Was good

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I pretty much excluively use reroll to change god doors to different gods so I never have more than 3 types of boons

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I dont know is this is good or not but its been letting me get really broken runs

zenith leaf
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same except i also reroll basically every centaur heart

plucky night
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I like centaur hearts

zenith leaf
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coward

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get hit less

opal wing
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its hard to not get hit with forced overtime 50% ;d

zenith leaf
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lose all your runs like me

plucky night
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I love and hate the new sword aspect

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Because its so fun and I pick it everytime

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And then I lose

echo orbit
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I remember some of us were talking about Zagreus' "domain" or lackthereof earlier and something occurred to me that'd be interesting but kind of unlikely? What if Zagreus could call upon his own divinity?

zenith leaf
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i summon the power to bleed a lot

plucky night
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What if he can grow flowers like his mom

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Thatd be cute

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Since everything is so wintery and dead

echo orbit
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That'd be neat

zenith leaf
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i think achilles is 100% correct about zagreus's domain

thorn compass
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Zagreus creates his first boon

misty pollen
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zag boons

echo orbit
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Or maybe something to do with blood?

misty pollen
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what did achilles say ?

plucky night
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Zag boons just gives you more death defiance

echo orbit
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Achilles believes Zagreus is the god of blood

plucky night
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God of life

echo orbit
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Considering he has the ability to defy death, that does make sense

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And Achilles also talks about how he and Than are inextricable from one another

zenith leaf
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gay

plucky night
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Very

thorn compass
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could be

echo orbit
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Idk maybe that could be a new game plus thing

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Zagreus having his own boons?

plucky night
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It makes a lot of sense given Persphone is springtime and rebirth

echo orbit
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Or just unlocking his own boons after defeating Hades under some set conditions

zenith leaf
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imagine zagreus's domain has to do with blood but also deep personal connection

thorn compass
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life and death

echo orbit
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That kind of what it seems like actually

zenith leaf
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blood and passion

echo orbit
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To torture other sources: blood can refer to life, but it can also refer to connection and promises, as well as passion

plucky night
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Now Im imagining being some other person trying to escape from hell and you get zag and its just "come back to life once" "get a dmg boost every time you die"

zenith leaf
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legendary boon: annoy your dad

echo orbit
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I guess in a way Zagreus is also doing that throughout the story itself with all of the connections he's making

plucky night
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All Zags boons require you to take damage to have aby effect

misty pollen
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kill death

echo orbit
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*befriend death

zenith leaf
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"""""befriend"""""

plucky night
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Or you know death

calm geyser
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So they'd be the vengeance boons.

misty pollen
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zag the god of vengance ?

plucky night
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Theres a meme triangle there

calm geyser
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Nemesis would like to have words there.

zenith leaf
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zagreus seems pretty much 0% vengeful

misty pollen
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yeah

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zag the god of annoying ?

zenith leaf
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has a hard time holding things against people, to a fault

plucky night
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"Kill Death, Become Death, ""befriend"" death" with zagreus in the middle

misty pollen
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Zag the god of dad issues

calm geyser
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I mean vengeance in terms of all the "get hit, enemies suffer damage" xD but fair enough.

zenith leaf
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zag's domain is twink

opal wing
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Thanks for the advice 😛

plucky night
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Its good

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see if you can pick up zeus

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it was really fun on my run

misty pollen
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poseidon cast hits pretty hard

echo orbit
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Zagreus - the god of sass

thorn compass
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God of Edge

zenith leaf
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than's got that covered

plucky night
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The clock on the heart means theres no more story for now right?

zenith leaf
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ye

plucky night
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Cause I finished the achilles stuff and now Im sad and SGG better fix it

misty pollen
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i want hades keepsake

zenith leaf
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if we don't get to see achilles and patroclus + orpheus and eurydice reunite i will be so far beyond grumpy

echo orbit
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^^

open crypt
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Does anyone know how many times you have to mess with the harp before you get the fated list completion?

misty pollen
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where can you find the harp btw ?

echo orbit
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It's a contractor item

misty pollen
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ah ic

open crypt
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Don't know when it unlocked but I had Orpheus

misty pollen
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any prerequestites ?

gentle current
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it’s be unlock to buy after zag talk about playing instrument and orpheus mention zag’s beautiful hands

plucky night
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Im not sure how long but Im finally on "ok" on the harp but not good enough and its been a while

open crypt
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I got lessons, he mentioned it again after that, and I've been toying with it 10 times between runs

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But no other completion update or further otherwise

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Want those diamonds lmfao

zenith leaf
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same, his playing has changed and i've stopped getting voice lines but still no new dialogue or quest completion

plucky night
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Same. It said Im improved though

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And I can hear its improved

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But no quest yet

gentle current
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so it’s possible we may get zagreus’s own song in future update perhaps ? darren sing in his tone-like song

plucky night
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I did get an extra Orpheus "Ive heard you playing" dialogue too

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No end in sight though

open crypt
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I hope we get more music, all of the pieces are great

zenith leaf
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mostly just wanna hear other people comment on his music playing

open crypt
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love that he calls the hydra lernie after a while

echo orbit
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I wonder if once we get to the surface Zag has to fight other legendary creatures? The Caledonian Boar, Scylla and Charybdis (though that’s more unlikely), maybe even the Olympians? I guess it might depend on who you max out or not

open crypt
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I would like to see some more biomes and more bosses

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That would be my #1

odd siren
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@open crypt me too!!! it's my favorite thing

gentle current
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i feel likely we’d get 3 or less more new dungeon (after hades fight), the game would get too long for a run unless there’s new battle design after hades, maybe boss rush match

echo orbit
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Yeah the Hades boss fight can get pretty intense

open crypt
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I would max it at 2 more

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One more map and then one that's more like the Styx biome

echo orbit
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Yeah that’d make sense

open crypt
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I like how snappy the runs are but I feel sad when they end so quickly

trail plinth
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46 runs and i still haven't beat hades 🤪

open crypt
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The only weapon I can't consistently beat Hades with still is the shield

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Spear aspect Guan Yu, first try, but not the chaos or regular shield

gentle current
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shield of chaos is still nice for safe play run, it’s been carrying me to ~15 heat now

open crypt
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I need to upgrade the chaos shield a bit

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First rank kind of underwhelming

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Love the bow aspects

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Nuclear Hera bow is baller

trail plinth
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tho today i got a really cute cutscene with athena and artemis so i am very satisfied

open crypt
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@trail plinth The game has so much charm

trail plinth
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soooo much, i don't get attached to a game like this in ages

gentle current
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maxed shield of chaos -> dionysus - aphrodite - zeus’s special boon is perfect for this, not a big dmg per hit but really safe playstyle

open crypt
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I got an insane bow run with incredible damage with Hera aspect. Dionysus fog, Demeter explosion on cast after a delay, increase cast damage from other boons

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Almost half of Hades HP in one hit

gentle current
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wonder how hera’s boon gonna work though, using cast to stack and attack seem to be a small hint. she’d be important rta element if her boon bring out big dmg like that bow volfredthink

stoic turtle
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Just outa curiosity, are they including the rest of the olympians (Hera, Haphestus, Apollo) in the game?

thorn compass
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I don't think so

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Haphestus would be too similar to the hammer

stoic turtle
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Actually, I think his stuff would mostly be fire based, with an additional hammer being his legendary

thorn compass
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I'd thought that's be ares since the doom and blades are fire-like

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but yeah

open crypt
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I would love to see Apolo

gentle current
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there’s still keepsake slots left for them, or any other gods/characters to appear in the game so it’s possible

open crypt
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Fire could have a more specific effect to delineate from Doom

stoic turtle
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It would also have to be different from hangover

thorn compass
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I feel like fire would be a clone of hanger/poison

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if that were a case

stoic turtle
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I think Apollo’s could be based on a percentage to stun an enemy

open crypt
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It would be nice to see fire take a non damage over time route

stoic turtle
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‘Cause the sun

gentle current
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privilege stat may get some ad justment if they’re gonna dd more status in the game

open crypt
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Stuns and positive enchantments to Zagreus would be nice from Apollo

thorn compass
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stun maybe like blindness

gentle current
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oh sunflash is nice idea XD

stoic turtle
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We kinda have that w/ fog

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Key word: kinda

thorn compass
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takes enemies longer to become alert of Zag

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what kind of god would use fog?

stoic turtle
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But yeah, I definitely see Haphestus’ Legendary giving an extra hammer

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Dionysus has festive fog for cast

thorn compass
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oh yeah

odd siren
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how is the bf going to say things like 'you are in so much trouble.' and then not follow up? than please

thorn compass
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"Daddy won't be happy"

stoic turtle
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Can you go the polygamous route in the game, or do you have to choose a specific love interest?

odd siren
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you can go poly!

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it's great!

stoic turtle
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👌

unkempt crown
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For however much they try to censor from this game, they sure are ok with poly bouldy

odd siren
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until than decides he wants to talk about your dad instead of giving you The Scene! (i'm upset with him)

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i don't think polyamorousness would be anything that... needed to be censored?

echo orbit
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I agree

gentle current
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we have tsundere bf and queen gf and now our cute maid

stoic turtle
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Not gonna lie, I really like Duse

echo orbit
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She’s a cutie yeah

gentle current
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this is the harem i dream of

odd siren
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she's the cutest. it's real.

stoic turtle
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She’s a really sweet talking gorgon head

odd siren
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she makes all the other gorgon heads look bad tbh

stoic turtle
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I wonder what she’d be like with a body

echo orbit
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More like they make her look bad and make it harder for her to get a job

thorn compass
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short and a bit chubby

echo orbit
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Awww that’d be cute

odd siren
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@thorn compass look i was thinking the exact same thing

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that's scary and also fantastic

stoic turtle
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Actually, do gorgons have legs or a snake tail thing?

thorn compass
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oh wow

gentle current
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hope march update will include nyx avatar and add her interaction with dusa, wanna see their conversation bit more

stoic turtle
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More specifically, in this game

odd siren
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i've only seen the heads

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as dusa, the miniboss in asphodel, and the little ones that spawn in regular encounters

stoic turtle
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This is a question I want answered.

echo orbit
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Sometimes they get syncretized with Naga which have the snake lower bodies

odd siren
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which may stem from the fact that Regular Myth medusa was beheaded? and Maid Dusa is a play on words meant to be Medusa

echo orbit
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But usually gorgons have normal humanoid bodies when depicted

open crypt
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New boss in Asphodel, a full gorgon

stoic turtle
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^

odd siren
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secretly the hydra has been her hair this whole time

stoic turtle
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^^^^

open crypt
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Yeah like literally could just be a varient

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You enter and it starts as the Hydra and then she comes out of the lava and her tendrils are the bone heads

odd siren
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yes! and you have to dodge for cover sometimes to avoid being turned to stone

open crypt
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New moves kinda like Fury sisters

stoic turtle
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It’s be cool if there was a work order allowing Dusa to get her body back

open crypt
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Make Dusa Great(er) Again

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Dusa is honestly my favourite of the side cast

stoic turtle
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Agreed

odd siren
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i've got a dusa/hypnos tie over here

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mostly because his flowers are REAL cute

glad lion
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I'm loving all the new dusa/meg interactions they are really fleshing them both out a lot

open crypt
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Dusa is pretty great too

odd siren
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^^^

open crypt
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The whole cast is pretty great tbh

odd siren
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apparently it's not uncommon to depict gorgons with wings and tusks

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and sometimes dragonlike scales on their bodies

stoic turtle
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Honestly, devs did an amazing job on this game regarding story and characters

open crypt
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@glad lion Girls night out lmfao

odd siren
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isn't that the truth! @stoic turtle

open crypt
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It's one of the reasons that the game is so enjoyable for me. The charm and the sass and the cohesion of story + character growth

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When Zagreus sasses Hades during his speeches up top, it killed me

glad lion
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I would love to see some more nyx love and some mother bonding with any of her kids tbh

stoic turtle
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I think I also like some of the liberties it takes with mythology

glad lion
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The sass in this game is so good

odd siren
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it would have been so easy for them to say 'oh, this is hades but just like, a surface reading' but every new detail i get about any character -- if you sit down and read the related mythos, you can see why they make the choices they do

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and that's just delightful

stoic turtle
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@glad lion yes

odd siren
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nyx holds family dinner in the lounge

stoic turtle
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^^^^

glad lion
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The one time we get to see the other fury sisters in the house 👀

odd siren
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alecto and zagreus have to sit at the opposite ends of the table from one another or someone will Die

glad lion
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Plus Than, Zag and Hypnos

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That's a part XD

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7 people in the lounge

open crypt
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I want to see more Hades growth

glad lion
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If only Chaos could join too and we could get closure on the Nyx/Chaos storyline

thorn compass
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is it make or doe Hades remind be of old man Kratos?

odd siren
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i really hope that's something we get when she gets a model @glad lion

stoic turtle
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Boy

odd siren
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if not before then

thorn compass
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Dangerous Boy

glad lion
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I hope so too! Now that Dusa got some love its Nyx turn

thorn compass
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I'd imagine Nyx's design is like a middle ground between Olympians and Chaos

odd siren
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i love the several-eyed version from Lore Olympus, though i doubt that's the route they'll go here

glad lion
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I really want her to have like a starry veil

thorn compass
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that'd be nice

vast garnet
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have someone else such problem? "in the game mouse speed in one moment slow in a second moment fast and slow-fast, slow-fast and etc....." ?

open crypt
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Only use controller so not here

odd siren
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i haven't run into it, @vast garnet

open crypt
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I've seen some glitches but not like that

odd siren
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be sure to report it with f10!

glad lion
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Cause I really like her current hooded design, for her and charon, the placeholders always fit them the best, so I hope they can channel that into the final art

vast garnet
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ok, thx for f10, didnt know

odd siren
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it was only until very recently that i realized nyx's art /was/ a placeholder

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no worries! good luck fixing it!

stoic turtle
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Is Charon's also a placeholder?

glad lion
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A lot of characters used to share it, it's a lot less obvious now

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I think so? But again it fits really well lol

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So I hope for both of them they keep some kind of hood in the final art

odd siren
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i agree with that.

thorn compass
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it's likely

glad lion
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With charon especially keeping the face obscured but with more detailed outfit and such, he is one of the riches people in Hades it seems lol

stoic turtle
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Which do you guys think is the best game Supergiant released?

thorn compass
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I just see him as a zombie lol

odd siren
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this one is really up there for me. though transistor makes me cry every single time i play it

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different moods i guess haha

glad lion
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^

stoic turtle
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it would be a very close tie between Bastion and Hades for me atm

thorn compass
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poor pyre

stoic turtle
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I love Pyre, I love what it did

gentle current
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i’m novel reader so pyre is really clicked well for me too, 15hrs first run and I think 10hrs were used in reading lmao

thorn compass
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yeah it did feel like that

gentle current
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and hades put that element well as dialogue-wise too, so it’s@nice they find a balance of action and storytelling in this game

stoic turtle
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Though Transistor doesn't get much love

gentle current
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pyre is heavy on text-based but get visualized well, bad pr i guess, should have show more directly about being novel game with sport game as bonus aespect

native marlin
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it...doesn't? I assumed Transistor was like the most popular SGG game

stoic turtle
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I guess I don't hear much about it when compared to the rest

glad lion
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Last I looked it the most roles for fav

gentle current
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it’s really a long while ago game, the hype is gone but fanbase is grown so

glad lion
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Baston and transistor I think are just at the point where everyone has said what they wanna say, likebhe said the hype has died down

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Also we should probably more this to the SGG channel if we wanna keep going lol

stoic turtle
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true

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my b

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question just popped into my head

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this is one of the more active chats

glad lion
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Hades has definitely hit a larger audience it seems and is pretty popular so I can see why lol

stoic turtle
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So... anyone wanna gush more about Dusa?

glad lion
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I wish she didn't hide in the corner hall past your room all the time,,,, it's so hard to see her there

stoic turtle
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too true

open crypt
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I hope she stays unharmed

tiny sequoia
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Didn't she already get harmed

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Is it canon that she had a body at some point

thorn compass
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yeah

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thanks Herc

echo orbit
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Wasn't Perseus the one that decapitated her?

coarse stone
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He was and it made a winged horse. Poor Dusa :x

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(although maybe that's how she can float up to the rafters come to think of it)

thorn compass
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thanks Pers

stoic turtle
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Hold up. We have 3 romantic interests and 1 keepsake slot left.

open crypt
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Romance Hades

stoic turtle
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OH GODS NO

open crypt
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Lmfao

coarse stone
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I'd rather romance the mirror tbh

thorn compass
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Thanatos
Skelly
Sisythus
Megera?
Patro?
Muse?
???

stoic turtle
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But seriously, who’s dms we slidin into?

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Not Orpheus

thorn compass
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ah yeah him lol

stoic turtle
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He’s taken

thorn compass
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kinda..

coarse stone
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I think Achilles/Patroclus could be an option depending on how the story goes for them

open crypt
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I really, really love the Hades final theme

stoic turtle
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Maybe Hypnos?

open crypt
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I wish the final form lasted longer so I could bop out to that theme

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Hypnos would be cute

coarse stone
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I can almost see the fade to black screen sounds now

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a giant snore

stoic turtle
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Badum, still

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*ts

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What if it’s a new Mac?

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*npc

coarse stone
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and if Zag's in a relationship with Meg, she suggests using a whip to keep Hypnos awake

stoic turtle
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Damn mobile

coarse stone
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and always a possiblity

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Not sure if the devs are going to add any more gods as just characters (and not boons)

stoic turtle
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Any more cathonic gods we haven’t heard about?

thorn compass
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what if Hypnos sleeping is just his own power backfiring

stoic turtle
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Possible

coarse stone
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and Nyx has far too many children to be possibilities lol

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Nyx is literally like the Brady Bunch of the gods tbh, has more children than most normal people

stoic turtle
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Maybe Heracles becomes an NPC

coarse stone
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I think he's in Olympus though

stoic turtle
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True

open crypt
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Would love to see Heracles

coarse stone
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and last time he broke in or out of the underworld, Hades had it out for him

stoic turtle
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Heh, what if he’s skelly’s boss

coarse stone
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He's literally one of the two "Do NOT ever mention him to me, ever."

thorn compass
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skelly was the true mastermind

coarse stone
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Skelly is Persephone's way of talking to Zag

stoic turtle
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Hm

coarse stone
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and give him weapons

thorn compass
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imo I think it's then narrators avatar so to speak despite Zag hearing him clearly

coarse stone
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but the fact that Hades doesn't just banish Skelly from his house is fairly telling

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That Skelly's payroll isn't any of the Olympians

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Hades would have him out of there faster than you can say "Oh, Zeus again."

stoic turtle
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Alright, I’ve asked a number of questions so far, but now I’ve got a heavy hitter.

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Brace yourselves

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Where’s the nsfw stuff?

coarse stone
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Hidden by a fade to black

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because Meg is more woman than the players (or Zag) can handle 😛

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but in all seriousness though, the devs are keeping away from nsfw stuff

stoic turtle
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I’m not talking on this server

thorn compass
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closest thing is Aphrodite

coarse stone
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Yeah, Aphrodite is the closest thing to nsfw that the devs would get methinks

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Mainly because of who/what she represents

stoic turtle
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I’m talking more about where to find this stuff. It’s very hard to search when the title is literally the name of a Greek god

coarse stone
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(that and it's her classical portrayal really, she's allergic to clothes it seems)

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Oh, well I haven't seen much tbh

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fanfics though I have

cold canopy
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Any further discussion into that matter should be kept in DM's, please. shadesmile

stoic turtle
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Alrighty, I’ll end it here

craggy shadow
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idk if i'd ever do romancing but i'm tickled it's an option for those that would

stoic turtle
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I wonder what the next weapon could be like. Maybe a flamethrower?

thorn compass
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heh

coarse stone
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Dusa on a rope and stick

craggy shadow
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Ooh, flamethrower would be fun

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I feel like since we have 3 melee already, it'll be another range

stoic turtle
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Same thought process

dense crown
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would fit with the currrent scheme of melee on the left and range on the right

coarse stone
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Could always use Dusa as a way to cast magic

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Could be funny seeing everyone's reactions to Dusa helping Zag in his escape

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Especially Meg.

stoic turtle
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They could also do magic garments that have ranged spells

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Like a gauntlet of some sort

craggy shadow
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Zagreus....Ezreal...

stoic turtle
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He is real

coarse stone
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Or maybe a magical orb

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Would have a lot of potential aspects

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considering the amount of seers or sorcerors in myths

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Would also count as a ranged weapon as well

open crypt
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Explosive spear upgrade + spear special increased damage + faster special speed through Hermes

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  • Doom on special from Ares
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I'm an armor piercing machinegun

calm geyser
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I know it would never happen, especially since all the weapons are of the original Olympians and all...but now I'm imagining Zag stumbling across a weapon Persephone owned and hid away.

thorn compass
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hmm

open crypt
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Now + breaching skewer so 400% damage to armor

craggy shadow
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the explosive spear is NUTS i love it

open crypt
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Getting to the end game that's in progress, meeting Persephone, unlocks fourth aspect of a weapon

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Aspect of Persephone

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That would be neat

open crypt
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Orpheus' song VA did an incredible job

merry sorrel
#

ok but upgradable fishing pole with Demeter/hestia/Persephone aspect when

stark tulip
#

fishing pole is actually the 6th weapon

thorn compass
#

Beach Boy

haughty carbon
#

shoot, I missed an opportunity to say that when I got the idea for that oh well. Fishing pole will definetly be the big boy around.

echo orbit
#

Darren Korb is a fantastic composer and vocalist

dense blaze
#

According to the wiki there was supposed to be a scene in your room with Meg et al, where you got the choice to puprsue relations with them, instead I got a scene in the lounge and the Bonds Forged message

haughty carbon
#

that's for everyone if you maxed their hearts, the bedroom scene comes along randomly later after that.

dense blaze
#

I maxed Than and Meg but got neither yet

thorn compass
#

ambrosia?

dense blaze
#

So it's just a % chance? Weird

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Yah

thorn compass
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hmm

dense blaze
#

All hearts in codex filled

haughty carbon
#

yeah it's random

edgy brook
#

Sweet hades I've been exposed to the truth

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Rail is so fun with the shotgun 1 shot reload mod

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Also has tons of synergy with attack up stuff.

#

But heat doesn't make the enemies stronger right? So like..you can "cheat" and just add the silly ones and get rewards still?

open crypt
#

Up until higher heat requirements when you might have to start adding the harder ones

edgy brook
#

Pretty forgiving.

open crypt
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Only one I'm trying to avoid save for getting the fate list completion is the one that refunds your darkness

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Because I find it tedious to have to put all of the darkness back into stuff after the run

edgy brook
#

Oh that's how that one works? I didn't understand it so didn't pick it

open crypt
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It caps the upgrades you can have from darkness starting at 2000 I believe?

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So if you have darkness put in over that amount it just boots it back into your cache

edgy brook
#

Oh wtf, did heroic always exist or was that added with heat?

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Did the eurydice event and 2 of mine are red now. Never saw that.

ancient maple
#

is something supposed to happen when Achilles tells you to go to your room?

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he keeps doing it randomly, but nothing ever happens

nova steppe
#

no, it's the most annoying/worst line i've encountered

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doesn't make any sense

open crypt
#

Papachilles

ancient maple
#

oh daddy

echo mist
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It might be a precursor to unlocking the other weapon aspects who knows

open crypt
#

I wish there was more to do with keys and darkness

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Cause now I have nothing I can do with them except trade on certain rare shoptions

ancient maple
#

keys can be turned into fruit, which will be more useful once more relationships unlock

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but yeah darkness is kinda useless

#

chiron bow with demeter special + explosion on enemies with 10 stacks = super good

open crypt
#

That's the special seeker one right and then special chills enemies?

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I had a special crit + special damage up + chaos special upgrade chiron run after fully upgrading it and it is bonkers good

edgy brook
#

Does the heat special door remove chaos doors? Or am I just seriously unlucky..

open crypt
#

Oops! All Splitters!

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@edgy brook Are you talking about the infernal gates?

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They do not remove chaos gates

edgy brook
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The red ones that require heat

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Okay just unlucky then. I thought egg gave a higher chance but re-read it and its just a buff -if- you get chaos. whoops

misty pollen
#

Quick question what is the song orpheus first sings ? I like the solemn feel of it and i’m wondering if it’s in the sheet music list

nova steppe
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it's the same song Eurydice sings, Good Riddance

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@misty pollen

misty pollen
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Okay thanks. I wished it was in the chamber music list tho. I was looking out for it. But realized it wasn’t there.

nova steppe
#

it is

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there might be a condition required for it to show up though

misty pollen
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Ahh i see ok i’ll try furthering their story. I see a ??? On the list.

nova steppe
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i bought it before the update that allowed display of full list to choose from, it cost 10 diamonds

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that's the one

misty pollen
#

Anyways thx for the info

opal wing
#

!!!! the fish I caught in chaos gave me a titanblood

nova steppe
#

yeah the chaos fishing is super rare and give best rewards

opal wing
#

I take it the others give ambrosia or diamonds?

nova steppe
#

yeah

hearty jay
#

Which are the characters that give companions currently?

woeful quartz
#

I have the Dusa bounty and bought all the lounge upgrades, but I'm not seeing any options for ambrosia yet. Did I do something wrong, or--

misty pollen
#

ambrosia is used for legendary keepsakes

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and for unlocking said keepsakes from speciffic characters

tidal schooner
#

I got the most insane build earlier

woeful quartz
#

I already maxed her out

tidal schooner
#

Demeter +_ Poseidon Duo with Hera bow

misty pollen
#

iirc it's thanatos, meg, dusa, and sisy

tidal schooner
#

And skelly

misty pollen
#

yeah.

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read up on it a bit but idk. Trying to go for sisyphus first

junior field
#

she also has a line that tells you to keep going

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must be one of the newly added ones

errant mango
#

I got a "Don't... like... you" recently. I thought we were friends Meg shadegrief

lament flame
#

I am impressed how much new dialogues with Aphrodite has been added in recent update. In 5 or so runs there was no repeating lines from Aphro. Wow

flint marten
austere fox
#

hey guys, just posted a big update for codex menu, here are the current features :

Boons :
-Spawn all boons
Items :
-Spawn all items
Weapons :
-Switch to any weapon (with last selected aspect!)
Enemies :
-Spawn all enemies
Bosses :
-Spawn all bosses
NPCs :
-Spawn Thanatos
Other features :
-Clear all boons
-Launch greater call
-Open Mirror of Night
-Open Pact of Punishment
-Open Keepsake Rack
-Open Charon Well
-Open Pool of Purging
dusty notch
#

Can somebody tell me what do I have to do to complete Dusa's quest?

junior field
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buy lounge improvements

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and a bed for Cerberus, I think

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start with the cheapest ones

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you definitely need to buy the lounge floor renovation

dusty notch
#

I bought all of the lounge upgrades and the quest is not complete

junior field
#

just keep talking to her then

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I also had everything and it wasn't completing

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so I just kept talking and she eventually mentioned the lounge being all fixed, which caused the prophecy to complete

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and the relationship to move forward

dusty notch
#

I hope this will work

junior field
#

I actually can't find her new lines in the subtitle files

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her ambrosia lines are there but not the new dialogues

quasi swan
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I just uhhh... had the room scene with Thanatos. And then I had a run where I talked to Hermes and Ares, and both commented on it

plucky night
#

Ares is so funny

quasi swan
#

I just love the depth to which Supergiant is making these dialogues and story items

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I legit did not expect anyone to comment, let alone TWO gods

plucky night
#

Has Ares ever met Thanatos?

quasi swan
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He said this to me:

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Aww I can't add pictures

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But he said, "Excellent choice of mate, my kin"

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Or something along those lines

plucky night
#

Because how he describes him is hilarious

quasi swan
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"It is my understanding that you have grown rather close to Thanatos, my kin? A perfect choice of mate, though I confess I'd not expected Death to have an affection for another save himself." is what Ares said

plucky night
#

"I didn't think Thanatos would ever care about anyone but himself" uh ares have you ever spoken to thanatos

quasi swan
#

Yeah I wonder about that

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Maybe that was just an assumption on Ares' part

plucky night
#

Ares just thinks hes so cool

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And has no idea

quasi swan
#

Because Thanatos definitely doesn't seem that way to me

lunar kiln
#

hello everyone. has anybody here seen my daughter

quasi swan
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Sorry grandma, we're still looking for her T_T

lunar kiln
#

frostbite for you

quasi swan
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D:

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I gave you all my nectar! Why so mean? 😦

lunar kiln
#

miserable mortal

plucky night
#

What does Hermes say though? I accidentally skipped through it

lunar kiln
#

you cannot replace my daughter with nectar

quasi swan
#

Hermes said to me... lemme transcribe it from my screenshot

runic terrace
#

hermbody once told me the world was gonna roll me

quasi swan
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"Saw Thanatos again lately, here, boss, and want to tell you, almost looked as though he cracked a smile when he mentioned you, never seen anything like that with him!"

runic terrace
#

zag: he mentioned me....

zenith leaf
#

that's the cutest thing

quasi swan
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Isn't it? I love it so much

#

So many kudos to the dev team for coming up with all this fantastic dialogue

compact verge
#

Hey, I just thought of something. Since the Aspect of Guan Yu is a thing, it means he probably used it. Guan Yu died in 220AD, about 300 years after Greece was conquered by Rome. If that's the case, then Zag might be leaving the underworld and entering a very different world than the Ancient Greece he's expecting. Either that, or timey wimey stuff is happening. Either or.

zenith leaf
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I think achilles talks about it as being a vision from the future

lapis smelt
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It’s timey-wimey stuff

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Guan-Yu is fated to wield the spear later in the future

zenith leaf
#

Oh and the description for it talks about it in the future tense

compact verge
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Ah, gotcha

burnt harbor
#

Or in this universe the fact that Greek gods unambiguously exist means they showed some 'Hellenic appreciation' to the would-be conquerors

brazen silo
#

Omg I just realised something

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Thanatos...

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Is a tsundere...

steel ravine
#

Took you long enough

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:)

brazen silo
#

Oh no...

steel ravine
#

Oh yes

steady beacon
#

I'd say he's almost more of a kuudere, honestly.

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It's like tsundere but replace 'angry' with 'serious and quiet'

burnt harbor
#

Also a Tsundere GOD OF DEATH sounds like an horrible prospect for Zag

lapis smelt
#

Meg is the Tsun though

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so are we going to get a Yandere

steel ravine
#

Anyway re: timeline and "not the Ancient Greece one's expecting" I'm more worried about where Apollo's at, for one. From the tidbits of info about the surface world it kinda feels like things have gone to crap supernaturally too, not just war stuff.

burnt harbor
#

Am I the only one who finds hilarious that Death Incarnate gifts you life buffs?

steady beacon
#

Unrelated: i'm love how it's canon that Zeus makes 'i banged ur mom' jokes, but mortals take them to be true

steel ravine
#

I mean they probably are

steady beacon
#

Demeter says otherwise in one of her comments, though

steel ravine
#

Oh?

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Also clearly either Nyx or Dusa are the yandere

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If we're going that way

coarse stone
#

Everyone's Tsundere for Zag

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Both Meg and Than complain about Zag's penchant for rampaging escape attempts but are more than willing to grumble and then flirt

burnt harbor
#

I mean Meg is more grumpy about the constant defeats and the fact she has to either to kill him or die to him

coarse stone
#

but wouldn't she find that fun?

steel ravine
#

What's fun about having your reputation trampled

burnt harbor
#

We talking about Meg, not Alecto

steel ravine
#

She's a professional

coarse stone
#

She likes the slapslap kiss relationship with Zag

steel ravine
#

She repedeately fails at her task

coarse stone
#

So do her sisters lol

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who are FAR more work-inclined than Meg herself

burnt harbor
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Also, they are grumpy because he is chasing the mother that 'abandoned' him instead of staying with the one who nurtured him

steel ravine
#

Yeah but they don't take it as professionally plus we don't get to hear their thoughts nearly as much

coarse stone
#

We already know what Tisiphone thinks though

steel ravine
#

Also yeah I can't get behind Zag's thinking in this one either

coarse stone
#

"Murdeeeeeereeeeeeeer"

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and I think it's more of what adopted kids tend to go through

coarse stone
#

they want to find out where they came from

steel ravine
#

Thanks Kade

steady beacon
#

just related to Zeus making 'i banged ur mom' jokes

burnt harbor
#

Like yeah, Hades is an ass.

But Nyx has been the perfect mother his whole life. They see him as selfish for doing this to her

coarse stone
#

Except Nyx also supports his escape attempts =x

burnt harbor
#

They SEE HIM

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They genuinely think Zag is hurting her

sharp axle
#

I think Demeter and Poseidon have the best quotes

steel ravine
#

Well I mean Nyx can be supportive while being torn about it on the inside

coarse stone
#

Ultimately what they see is what they're projecting onto Zag and Nyx's relationship though ;x

steady beacon
#

Demeter has some really really good quotes, ngl

coarse stone
#

and she's not really torn considering she literally says "I'm supporting him, dealwithit lol" to Hades

sharp axle
#

Poseidon has some "awkward uncle" quotes

steel ravine
#

I love Demeter both quote-wise and mechanically

burnt harbor
#

Poseidon REALLY wants to be the cool uncle

coarse stone
#

Poseidon wants to be the cool uncle

steel ravine
#

Still waiting for Hephaestus tho

burnt harbor
#

He technically is by elimination

coarse stone
#

but he doesn't realize that he's the uncle with dad jokes

steady beacon
#

I think what mantra was saying was that they don't realize that Nyx is entirely chill with Zag trying to leave

coarse stone
#

I think they're just upset that Zag's wanting to leave them

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Thanatos for certain is

burnt harbor
#

All his nieces and nephews see him as a bit of an embarrasment tho

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I think actually gets along pretty well with his cousins all said

steady beacon
#

I love artemis is like 'oh dad tells me to take Uncle Poseidon seriously, but it honestly really hard to'

sharp axle
#

Uncle Poseidon also has a super awkward "liquid justice quote," that is also amazingly awkward

coarse stone
#

Artemis is also "Please save me from these idiots, Zag. :("

flint marten
#

Ahoy, Madam!

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I DIED

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AHAHAHA

coarse stone
#

Yeah, liquid justice just sounds wrong

errant mango
steel ravine
#

Artemis is great

sharp axle
#

YES!

lament flame
#

HE REALLY SAID THAT LOL

burnt harbor
#

Poseidon: PLS, dont ask about Asterius, not my proudest moment

coarse stone
#

Poseidon, please stop trying to compete with Zeus.

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No one wants to see that D:

sharp axle
#

favorite quote ever

errant mango
#

It's really something isn't it

coarse stone
#

Poseidon seriously scares me with the dad jokes lol

steady beacon
#

I love the interaction between Demeter and Poseidon that sometimes shows up when their duo boon appears

burnt harbor
#

Yesterday I just saw Aphrodite c*******block Artemis

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Just when she was gonna confess to him lol

coarse stone
#

Doesn't that happen a lot with Aphrodite?

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I'm surprised that ARtemis doesn't lose her temper and remind Aphrodite that arrows in the heart tend to be fatal 😛

burnt harbor
#

The dual conversations are the funniest, shame rarely happen

coarse stone
#

I think the only one I've seen was the Zeus/Poseidon one

stark tulip
#

Dio and Zeus one is good too lol

coarse stone
#

where Poseidon backtracks faster than an arachnophobic confronted by a wolf spider

burnt harbor
#

When Poseidon had to butter up Zeus

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Because Zeus was listening?

coarse stone
#

Yeah

errant mango
#

Ah yeah that's a good one

burnt harbor
#

Btw dunno why but Alecto seems much harder boss for me than the other two

steady beacon
#

"Hello little Zagreus I was just reminding this oaf here that I could freeze his entire domain solid if I felt like it." "Yep, indeed you could! :D" (And just Poseidon. not even realizing it's supposed to be a threat)

coarse stone
#

I kinda like Demeter but she's just eerily menacing

steady beacon
#

That's why I like Demeter

coarse stone
#

and actually, she technically would have a hard time freezing the ocean

stark tulip
#

grandmas feeling stabby

steady beacon
#

she brings that Big Boss energy

lapis smelt
#

B-but the ocean is full of salt

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She can’t freeze it

coarse stone
#

the ocean is full of salt AND waves

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both of which would science spiel

lapis smelt
#

If she did then everything else would be completely and utterly dead

burnt harbor
#

The salt is from Poseidon tears

lament flame
#

I like how Aphro and Dio reaction on Poseidon is like "hahaha that's my uncle he kinda stupid"

coarse stone
#

Isn't that Dio's reaction to everything?

steady beacon
#

She probably could, actually? She would just have to make it very very very cold.

coarse stone
#

He's drunk ;x

burnt harbor
#

Lets be honest Poseidon is a tryhard lol

coarse stone
#

and it's not the temperature that would need to be changed due to the fact that ocean waves tend to destabilize any ice formation

burnt harbor
#

BTW

coarse stone
#

basically Poseidon could just throw a temper tantrum and block Demeter from freezing the ocean

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(I want to see that tbh)

burnt harbor
#

I was surprised how readily was Zag to go along with Dio's joke

lament flame
steady beacon
#

He's so dumb, it's wonderful

coarse stone
#

Poseidon, stop D:

lament flame
#

IT IS LIKE THAT RUSSIAN MEME LOL

burnt harbor
#

Quotes like that show why He has no offspring and Zeus has 6

coarse stone
#

In Soviet Russia, wit exceeds Poseidon?

steady beacon
#

If he's even being honest about them all being his kids :V

lament flame
supple dagger
#

...I forgot what I came in here for...

coarse stone
#

I think Zeus tends to exaggerate how great he is

errant mango
#

Zeus is just so full of himself tbh

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and Poseidon is the messy uncle

coarse stone
#

I think Demeter is the least likely to sugarcoat her words or deeds

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She's literally one of the only gods with boons that are blatant about her intentions

steady beacon
#

^

coarse stone
#

She's not doing it just to make Zag happy

burnt harbor
#

Zeus is both the oldest and the youngest brother, and has the worst of both traits

coarse stone
#

she's doing it because if you defy her

lament flame
#

Haha yes

coarse stone
#

she'll put everyone in an endless winter

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and make you suffer for all eternity

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and BOW to her.

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Then sing "Let It Go" to rub it in.

steady beacon
#

I'm love gramma

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shes such an icon

coarse stone
#

I'd like to see Nyx fight Demeter tbh

lament flame
#

Man eternal winter is sure sucks but Demeter is so 👌 👌 👌

steady beacon
#

cue 'who should you get into a fight with' meme here

coarse stone
#

I'd probably get into a fight with Thanatos

steady beacon
#

why

lament flame
#

why

coarse stone
#

Seems fun to tease shrug

steady beacon
#

But he could instakill you after a small countdown

coarse stone
#

well I'm mortal so he can't technically do that

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till I die peacefully

lament flame
#

That's fine if you always want to die

coarse stone
#

If I die in war, he doesn't get my soul

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If I die in pain, he doesn't get my soul

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so I'd have to really die of old age or in my sleep

steady beacon
#

So he instakills you peacefully

coarse stone
#

Sounds paradoxal

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Could kill me with horrible pickup lines though

steady beacon
#

I mean. an instakill means you feel no pain, because it;s instant.

coarse stone
#

well that really depends on if Than's instakills are really instant

covert totem
#

Doom counter bosses are fun, right? shadedisgruntled

coarse stone
#

because if he's basically dooming me to die, then would it be truly peaceful if I'm in despair?

steady beacon
#

People who die of old age still have to deal with the despair of coming to terms with it, you egg

coarse stone
#

Yes but they have years to get over being old 😛

steady beacon
#

But not all of them might be able to

coarse stone
#

I mean I've already started telling my mom that she's old

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Plus Than's sphere of influence is weird

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I don't think he actually does the killing itself but rather fetches the people who die

steady beacon
#

and it's not just being old. it's that you will die soon. There's kind of a difference.

coarse stone
#

Plus by nature, being in a fight wouldn't be a peaceful death methinks

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although the spheres of power between Than and the Kers is messy

#

Still would get into a fight with Than, he seems less likely to hold a grudge.

quasi swan
#

I'm trying to get so many duo boons and can't wait to hear how Demeter interacts with the others

#

I love them all so much ;^;

coarse stone
#

Probably she'd mock most of them

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(or threaten them)

supple dagger
#

I think I popped in for something related to patch notes, but I forgot...

quasi swan
#

Damp Uncle, Zappy Uncle, Murder Cousin, Shield Cousin, Stabby Cousin, Speedy Cousin... I don't remember if Aphrodite is related to you or not

coarse stone
#

I think Zeus would be mocked

lament flame
#

No she not

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I mean Aphro is not related to Zag

coarse stone
#

I think Aphrodite is like...the adopted older sister who has a penchant for having no modesty

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and flirting, with everyone.

quasi swan
#

So Aphrodite is Winky 😉

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I love all of my weird family

coarse stone
#

Imagine having a friend over. Then bam, Aphrodite.

supple dagger
#

Aphro not being related helps normalize the constant flirting and threats

quasi swan
#

I wonder if Aphrodite says anything about me and Than being boyfriends

coarse stone
#

Yes

quasi swan
#

Cuz Hermes and Ares have said stuff, but Poseidon hasn't

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SHE DOES??

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YES.

coarse stone
#

She has hearts too

errant mango
#

Why would Poseidon say anything? I don't think he cares

coarse stone
#

Basically she kinda fangirls about it

quasi swan
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Cuz he's Cool Damp Uncle and he's funny and I like him

coarse stone
#

although I'm not sure if she's fangirling because Zag found love

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or just because he found love with Than

lament flame
#

Both

supple dagger
#

I can see Aphro being one of those

quasi swan
#

I like to think she's happy that they both found love, and is extra happy that it's with each other

coarse stone
#

well yeah, you'd think she'd be more blase about the whole thing. Not fangirling over Than and Zag sitting in a tree, etc.

errant mango
#

I mean she likes playing the matchmaker, not just doing things for herself

coarse stone
#

but yeah, she does talk about Than and Zag's relationship lol

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with floating hearts too

lament flame
#

Now I wonder does she say something about Meg and Zag too ?

coarse stone
#

I think she does

errant mango
#

Yeah. All 3 I believe

coarse stone
#

I remember hearing people comment on that she does

lament flame
#

Cool!

coarse stone
#

and it'd make sense why she's a common commenter

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she likes relationships

formal ivy
#

all... 3?

coarse stone
#

maybe a little too much but I digress

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Yes, Than, Meg, Dusa

errant mango
#

Apparently she also says something about the Dusa situation

formal ivy
#

dusa romance!!!!

coarse stone
#

Nope

#

Dusa Friendzoning

formal ivy
coarse stone
#

Dusa friendzones Zag so hard that Aphrodite feels it in Olympus

errant mango
#

I'm probably the only person here who doesn't like it, but a lot of people seem to be all over the gorgon head, so why not

calm geyser
#

Dusa is ace, I can respect that. And am also glad because it means I won't have to break her heart rejecting her because uh...no. You're adorable and all but no.

coarse stone
#

I think her portrayal of crushing on Zag is what might be the trickiest thing

supple dagger
#

I kinda agree. I can't see it minus just Zag being rebellious and going against house rules.

formal ivy
#

I'm gone for half a week for cny and now this happens

errant mango
#

Same with Artemis actually. But that's a hot take for another day

coarse stone
#

it'd make sense if she had a crush but realized that they were better off as friends

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and that was actually better displayed

calm geyser
#

Artemis is a good friend. She and Zag would totally go on hunts together.

errant mango
#

Yeah but people really want her to be a romance option

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Which i disagree with personally

coarse stone
#

I think it makes sense that she isn't

errant mango
#

Wouldn't fit her character imo

coarse stone
#

I mean not everyone wants Zag

formal ivy
#

let me attempt to romance everybody

coarse stone
#

Sure, there's the attempt

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but doesn't mean the attempt is successful =p

errant mango
#

I'd like if you could try her but she just turns you down

lament flame
#

I think even if Dusa friendzones Zag it's a good lesson for him and us. Sometimes our feeling aren't mutual

coarse stone
#

Just ask Zag, he's used to failed attempts

stark tulip
#

it sets a weird precedent anyway with other olympians

covert totem
#

Might be several of Zag's 'deaths', failed attempts to romance olympians shadeembarassed

coarse stone
#

Pretty sure none of the Olympians would be romancable due to them being related

formal ivy
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attempts to romance zeus
zeus is... thunderstruck by the revelation

coarse stone
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and SGG is avoiding THOSE implications

burnt harbor
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Does Zag asks Aphro about signing the poster?

coarse stone
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Don't think he does

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Plus I'd be worried about HOW she'd sign it

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probably with a lot of kissy marks

formal ivy
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a lock of her hair?

coarse stone
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and a passive aggressive "I love you and you love me. Or else."

formal ivy
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since its long enough to go to china and back several times

coarse stone
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"Your favorite Olympian, Aphrodite."

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Probably best that Zag keeps Aphrodite away from that poster

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lol

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I mean, she'd probably go nuts over a MIRROR. Imagine a reproducable image of herself.

lament flame
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Tho she comments on Zag equipping eternal rose

coarse stone
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Everyone in the mortal realm and Olympus would have it

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and yeah, I think all gods comment on their own artifact

covert totem
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Would be pretty funny if she finds out about the wall scroll shadeembarassed

burnt harbor
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I love Zag answer to the narrator to his quip over the poster

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'Ey, It's my room I can put Whatever I want'

coarse stone
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So he can put Than in it>?

formal ivy
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put it in than

lament flame
coarse stone
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I want to have Than be a permenant fixture in Zag's room

lament flame
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Agree

coarse stone
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making snarky comments

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about the state of it

calm geyser
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I'm just imagining Zag asking Aphrodite to sign the poster in a dual room with Ares. Who's just sharpening his sword.

covert totem
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I am wondering if we're getting more wall scrolls, since they're cannon in amcient greece now shadesmile

coarse stone
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I don't think Ares would care lol

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as long as Zag agrees to fight him

errant mango
coarse stone
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Then he'd probably sign the Stygius

pearl plank
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Is anyone else confused by the emphasis of the phrase "Fear is for the weak?" It seems like a rather poor sentiment

coarse stone
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It's a madness mantra

lament flame
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Yes

calm geyser
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I don't think Zag would have much choice on the matter. XD

"Uses Ares call while fighting Ares". "Did not think this through".

runic terrace
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i dont know what they payoff will be but for now i think its like...bad on purpose

formal ivy
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"Fear is for the weak"?

runic terrace
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or not bad so much as a bandaid solution that will harm zag later

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yeah

coarse stone
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I think Achilles is actually fearing something

runic terrace
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achilles isnt perfect, hes just doing his best to support zag....

coarse stone
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which is kinda alarming tbh

pearl plank
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I hope so, I feel like Zag would already be the type of guy to not ascribe to that

coarse stone
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Since I know he kinda repeats it after mentioning Patroclus

pearl plank
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Yeah

runic terrace
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fear is for the weak falls into the same category as "oh dont worry abt killing satyrs and rats, its fine to kill living things!", which is like....bandaid solutions to get zag out NOW

calm geyser
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As much as I want the best for Achilles and Patroclus...I have some concerns.

errant mango
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It's probably going to be really bittersweet or something

coarse stone
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I think he might be afraid that he made a mistake

formal ivy
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^

pearl plank
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Well they also don't seem to have the same negative view of death as mortals do

coarse stone
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and he can't exactly go back and change it

calm geyser
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True.

coarse stone
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so he tells himself that fear is for the weak

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so he doesn't succumb to his OWN fears

lament flame
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I think big irony is Achilles is fear that Patroclus didn't forgive him

coarse stone
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Because he's not weak, he's NOT.

formal ivy
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(which is true, just not for the reasons he thinks)

coarse stone
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I think he should just ask Hades if he can have Patroclus back

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I mean both of them are warriors, Hades would have even better security

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and depending on the contract and deal that Achilles made, it's possible that the terms have been achieved

errant mango
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He did let us help Sisyphus in a way

runic terrace
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can u imagine how mad he must be at theseus
like "why didnt I think of that"

errant mango
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I'd imagine it'll be something similar

formal ivy
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How did we buy out the Sisyphus and Orpheus ones?

coarse stone
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I think Hades would be reasonable

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especially since Zag can keep beating him in combat

formal ivy
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As I recall it was something like "I don't even really remember why it matters, go ahead"

coarse stone
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which means that Achilles did his job VERY well

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and I think Hades doesn't ever forget

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Just look at how he reacts to Herc.

errant mango
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"I thought Achilles taught you to be quick"

mystic tusk
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so, it was my understanding that theseus will only summon a god you don't have boons from, but I now realize that I have no evidence that is the case

lament flame
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Yes

coarse stone
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"Well it's not my fault you put Cerberus in the door, Father."

mystic tusk
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can that happen and if so is zag similarly deadpan?

errant mango
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Only if you have boons from all the gods, it'll be random

coarse stone
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and yeah, it'd make sense that Theseus calls upon an Olympian that you don't get a boon for

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since they do feel slighted and want you dead

formal ivy
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is it possible to get one of everybody?

coarse stone
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I think it's possible but takes a LOT of luck

errant mango
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I've heard so, by using the keepsakes

mystic tusk
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olympia is pretty crowded these days

errant mango
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And rerolls

calm geyser
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Keepsakes and a lot of rerolls.

formal ivy
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it doesn't sound impossible, but then neither does the possibility that there's some built-in restriction that alters boons if you have only 1 god left

mystic tusk
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I actually am fairly sure there is something that weights towards gods you already have, in order to increase the likeliness of legendary boons

coarse stone
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It'd be kinda funny if there weren't any Olympians that you had to get, Theseus would just summon extra shades of himself

cloud dagger
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I just want Achilles to be happy

coarse stone
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but yeah, I've noticed that my runs tend to limit themselves to 2 Olympians + Hermes

mystic tusk
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hermes is treated like a hammer, for all intents and purposes

formal ivy
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I usually get 3, but yeah

coarse stone
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but the mantra "Fear is for the weak" is kinda omninous but it could also just be Achilles just trying to not succumb to it

mystic tusk
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I MEAN YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE HEPHAESTUS AMIRITE

supple dagger
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Okay, I think I remembered what I wanted to ask: what is "Punishing Damage" for the Hades aspect? And was does the cursor icon indicate?

mystic tusk
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whoops, I think a message double posted, sorry about that

errant mango
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I think it just means you're doing extra damage. It's a mark, kind of

mystic tusk
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if you hover over the aspect, it'll give you a detailed explanation

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but enemies with the target take extra damage from all sources

pearl plank
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If anything fear is for the courageous

mystic tusk
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you can't see it in the boon screen during the run, which I feel is a flaw

pearl plank
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Can't have courage without fear

formal ivy
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As a soldier I should think Achilles has experienced enough to say "fear is for everybody, but giving up is for the weak"

pearl plank
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That sounds better

supple dagger
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Now, for a more lore/idea thing: Ceres and Calypso from the Odyssey; what are they up to?

mystic tusk
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(ceres is demeter, did you mean the witch circe)

supple dagger
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yeah

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misspelled her name

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I just remembered C

formal ivy
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shivering in the snow I imagine

supple dagger
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does it snow on their islands?

pearl plank
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(also I know you can at least get Theseus's god after you fight him, happened to me with Aphrodite the other day)

burnt harbor
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I love how Achilles respectfully rejects you

formal ivy
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wait, does irl mythology circe have anything to do with pigs?

burnt harbor
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Because he just has the heart for Patroclus

lament flame
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Aaaw

supple dagger
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@formal ivy Circe turned Odysseus' men into pigs

mystic tusk
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yup, she turned Odysseus' crew into pigs

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what they said

supple dagger
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and coerced Odysseus into having sex with her before traveling to Hades

formal ivy
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maybe she'll become the Chef shade in a future update shadeohboy

cloud dagger
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^ neat

mystic tusk
lament flame
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Yeah good concept

formal ivy
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I like that the house contractor is a blank shade because of Zag running away from his work, but the chef and trader seem like they can be replaced with proper characters

cloud dagger
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Did the greeks have a god of trade?

supple dagger
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they cooould

cloud dagger
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High god of financial stability

supple dagger
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Did they? The way Hermes is, he could be the god of that as well

mystic tusk
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if in doubt, apollo is the god of it, is the rule of thumb

cloud dagger
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Huh...yeah you're right, apparently Hermes is the go-to

supple dagger
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if memory serves me right, is Selene the moon goddess in Greek mythos?

formal ivy
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Artemis and Hecate had those roles too

errant mango
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"Selene was often identified with Artemis, much as her brother, Helios, was identified with Apollo."

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Seems like she's more "personification of the moon" than a moon goddess

supple dagger
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Idk why this question and that answer reminded me that the community (at least on the subreddit from one thread, or maybe it's in here) already want a spiritual spin-off from SG based on Egyptian mythos... I'd support it.

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oohh

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Because I knew Nyx wasn't Selene.

mystic tusk
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I suppose this isn't strictly on topic but I honestly wonder what the average greek layman would this about the fact that their mythological fanfiction became archival important doctrine

pearl plank
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If SG makes a spiritual spinoff I hope it has co-op lol

formal ivy
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play as Ra and his protectors as they traverse the underworld and back each day!

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infinite replay and constant variation justified right away

craggy shadow
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Oh PLEASE I WANT IT

cunning laurel
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not sure to put this, but I'm putting it in spoilers just to be safe. Upon seeing Demeter's boon for the first time, Zagreus says this line: "Last time I felt a chill like this was... on the surface, but who...? Well, one way to find out, then, in the name of Hades! Olympus! I accept this message!" Does anyone know what he says if you haven't reached the surface yet?

supple dagger
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that is a good question

hard fulcrum
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Can you even get demeter boons until you reach the surface?

cunning laurel
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No clue. Maybe I can start up a new file and see if it's possible

burnt harbor
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Is there any reference to Jason in the game?

mystic tusk
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you can't get her boons until you reach the surface

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you don't need to BEAT the final boss, but you need to reach the surface

indigo sable
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This Hades fight shouldn't have been so monkaS

mystic tusk
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olympian fiesta party build huh

indigo sable
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But I threw my bloodstones in the water like the dumb dumb that I am

drifting citrus
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the olympians have never liked each other more

indigo sable
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I'm mad at Hermes for not giving the the automatic return

mystic tusk
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a lot of olympians like each other... too much

indigo sable
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Artemis also snubbed me a bit

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Demeter seems to not like the other olympians somewhat

burnt harbor
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Once you unlock all the things in the mirror and all weapons. Keys only are useful for bartering. Right?

lament flame
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Yes

plucky night
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Demeter just seems mad

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Shes in a mood

supple dagger
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I honestly forgot the prices for the keys, but honestly, I think when they finally allow access to the other rooms/parts of the house, it should make gaining keys worth it in the end.

mystic tusk
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it's almost like she's pissed because the mortal world took her daughter from her

supple dagger
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They did? o .o

mystic tusk
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no, but I'm sure she feels that way

burnt harbor
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God-damned adults taking their own decisions

indigo sable
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Some stuff is going to happen with Demeter

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in the ending

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I'm really hoping for the Olympian Heel turn

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with a boss rush

coarse stone
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an Olympian boss rush, with their favored c hampions

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maybe have Persephone convert Zag's boons so he doesn't lose all of them? xD

supple dagger
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if they add two more variants for Asphodel and Elysium, I wouldn't mind a boss rush... in a separate space of "Erebus"

mystic tusk
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actually, humblebrag, I still haven't gotten the full red onion codex entry because Zag is too fantastic at what he does

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it feels bad to have a completion context walled off based on the condition of failure

coarse stone
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well to be fair, Zag's whole gimmick is literally charging ahead, getting killed, failing, and getting up just to do it again

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=p

mystic tusk
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an incredibly fair point

west acorn
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Does dying after beating hades count?

supple dagger
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for what? o .o

mystic tusk
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did kobe byrant just die

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oh sorry wrong channel

zenith leaf
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i cannot believe i just heard about this from the hades discord of all places

mystic tusk
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I am sincerely sorry, I can delete it and this

crisp thunder
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Any tips for hades

spring scaffold
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Have you tried not getting hit?

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:hypnos:

mystic tusk
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keep your distance, if you can

crisp thunder
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It seems pretty chaotic

mystic tusk
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if you only have two dashes he can hit you with his sweep anywhere

crisp thunder
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I’m using a bow and it does like no damage

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I only have two dashes

mystic tusk
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so his sweep will be your worst enemy

zenith leaf
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you can dash through it

crisp thunder
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Currently I have a Chiron bow build with Aphrodite bonuses

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What if I use my invincibility frames ?

zenith leaf
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biggest thing is to kill his casts. if they don't hit you they drop on the ground and explode after 5 seconds unless you kill them. if you end up in a situation where there's like 2 or 3 of them hanging around it gets really hard to dodge

mystic tusk
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dashing his slash is a timing thing, there are people much better fhan me at it, but I think the safer strategy is to wait and strike after he does it and gett away

crisp thunder
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I’ve such a weird build as well

zenith leaf
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oh and he has a second phase so don't play reckless at the end

crisp thunder
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At least I’ve two revives left and 265 health

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Two phases

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Nani

zenith leaf
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second one is easier imo

mystic tusk
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I concur, in the first phase he spawns enemies, in tbe second it's all, uh, him

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and keeping your distance works even better then

zenith leaf
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honestly my strategy for him, every other enemy in the game, and every other enemy in any video game with a dash ever made is to just stay in his face and keep dashing behind him

mystic tusk
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that is a strategy you could have

zenith leaf
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on the rare occasions it doesn't work you at least die faster

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efficiency

mystic tusk
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that is an outlook on life you can have

zenith leaf
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no one can stop me

crisp thunder
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Yeah Damn I did like no damage

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I survived super long but my built was too weak

zenith leaf
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aphrodite special on chiron can work if you get her legendary but otherwise it aint the best

supple dagger
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I also hope the pricing thing/payment system from the head chef fishing thing makes sense in the future. Because it's really weird to bring in three fishes but feel a reward for only two.

zenith leaf
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Are you sure two of them don't just give the same type of reward

burnt harbor
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Maye it conflates the rewards

zenith leaf
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Like 3 fish but two of them give gemstones so you just see one popup for gems

burnt harbor
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It gives all keys and all gems together

zenith leaf
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Fish in the codex when

trail plinth
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run number 50 today guys, root for me so i can finally get dad's ass ripped apart 🤪

unkempt crown
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supergiant: we are keeping the incestuous nature of greek mythology outside of hades
also supergiant: makes aphrodite's charm actually work on hades himself

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really rustles my jimmies

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