#h1-story-discussion
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That's brilliant
- My name is Bone. Hydra Bone
Lernaean Hydra
midnight for hydra bone
Yeah Zagreus says something to the effect of "Can I call you Lernie?" and I love it
Where's my Lernie dialogue
Yes and then its title ACTUALLY gets Lernie in it
btw, have you guys been getting Zag's Hydra intro after the winter patch?
he hasn't commented once after the patch
He's been saying the intros for me all the time, maybe you exhausted the lines Zepp?
Possibly?
I've done 5 runs after the patch and he said nothing to Hydra in all of em
That's really weird
other bosses talk fine
Verify the integrity of the cache?
Even if the lines get exhausted he should still say something imho
done that, yeah
We get lines for the other bosses even when we exhaust them all
he just repeats random intro lines
Weird
at least, he's supposed to
Guys, I've been trying to romance Thanatos, and I've given him all ambrosias and defeated him multiple times after that, and he doesnt have that exclamation point above his head and just says "we'll see each other down there" or stuff like that. Am i missing something?
@amber falcon Nectar or Ambrosia
what does his codex page say?
All his hearts are full?
Also I can tell you love is a cruel mistress right now
after going down Dusa's path
😭
aphrodite when i get out of here ima smack u
Codex ends with: he tirelessly serves his foreign master whose son he at least adores despite their differences in manner and outlooks
That has nothing to do with romancing, we mean the hearts
The text just pops up based on # of conversations with him
Everything is full. Theres an arrow with three hearts and thats full too
I would send a picture but for some reason i dont have permission
Then you should be done
Also, true, dusa romance is cruel
@amber falcon links allowed
I actually feel the soul sucked out of me rn, the update brought dusa ambrosia stuff in and my dreams were dashed
Yea but ive read that he should like come to your room or smth
Wait. What happens with the Dusa romance
I have no interest in sexy death or chain smoking bat lady rip
Yea im now curious too
You get friendzoned
And that's it
"We can still be friends?"
"We can still be friends 🙂 "
"yaaay"
😭😭😭
That's pretty much it.
wow
Yeah
now i want to cry
I am crying ;-;
I didn't start romancing video game characters in the visual novel section to get freindzoned rip
@amber falcon so you have all hearts full? Just keep playing and talking to him, he'll come down eventually
I specifically didn't give the other chars more than 1 ambrosia so I could get their keepsakes and that's it in case a character I actually cared about showed up
Now they all definitely ain't gettin no more
not having your heart broken again
Yes
at the same time
And they both know and are okay with this
But why is dusa off limits 😭
aw, there's no Meg emote
Meg actually encourages Than to follow his feelings if she's the one who's romanced first
im not, they're siblings with me 
OUTRAGEOUS
but what is a life without the love of best girl
Dusa isn't "off limits"
she is though
She turns you down
I mean she friendzones us, apparently
PepeHands
"i dont have any romantic feelings for you" is literally what she says
Tragic
despite all the hearts and stuff she's had until this point
Exactly, that's not being "off limits"
we can believe that she is lying and in a future update we will win her over
Was also listening to music and I swear I heard Dusa...or a voice that sounded like her
Yea yea, ok, bad expression on my side
"Zag, I'm a floating ball of snakes and you are literally a god, it'll never work out."
artistic license, bro!
but she clearly does
if she said that, that would make sense!
zag even brings it up!
But she's just like 'nah that's fine, i just want to be friends thanks'
Yea, so whats with all the hearts and stuttering at the beginning?
Feels really weird considering how her character was portrayed up until this point
Yeah
I think she doesn't want to be in a relationship with Zag because of the possibility of that relationship backfiring...horribly.
you'd stutter, too, if you had snakes for hair
I feel like the devs just didn't want any more romancing at all besides meg and than
she wanted what she couldn't have and as soon as you were interested she lost interest
just like real life
It would make sense if she was like: oh i had this idea of you that wasnt who you actually are and i want us to just be friends cause i idolized you
And this is their solution to the problem of not wanting to have any more relationships
outrageous, truly
Remember that Nyx was also putting pressure on Dusa to NOT fraternize with the gods
hm
That only gets brought up at the start of the ambrosias
who knows, Dusa is under Nyx
Dusa asks to talk to zag in room and she's just like 'lets be friends I only have platonic feelings for you'
she's not like Than or Meg
Zag literally says "you can be honest with me Dusa" and that's what she says
So either Dusa lied there
Which I doubt since the VA and writing gave no hint
Or it has nothing to do with Nyx
guess we'll never know
I mean we do know
Or she doesn't want to lose her job and not be able to see Zag.
what if she is lying though
I'm afraid Dusa isn't a real person but a character in a video game and she specifically said that was the truth
oh my god you people are game theory'ing this hard
Video game characters can lie o-o
This is turning in a shane conspiracy
I think I broke spoilers chat
They can't handle that dusa doesn't love them
We're in the stages of grief
she does love us
We need Artemis romance 😍
Maybe it will
Plus Artemis is a solo-woman
We will see
Lmao denial begins anew
you can't bone the gods
She was clearly shot by Aphros cupid
want to bet
it's physically impossible, they're on Olympus
... I mean isn't that what the gods do all the time?
Artemis is not a chance
Yup
^
the gods can't enter the Underworld
Maiden and all that
1st she is forever inocent goddess
know why? Cause they know what happened to Persephone
ill be back in an hour when this is over
also, their powers would diminish in Hades' kingdom
2nd she is heartless and dangerous
I dont mind an unconsumed relationship with Artemis
so, again, you ain't boning no gods
A long distance thing
Anyway I'm sort of not interested in any new romantic sub-plots in Hades anymore after Dusa's, it felt like a real bait and switch considering how she was written up until that literal last piece of dialog.
Plus the devs also want to avoid incestual implications. So Dusa has a much higher chance of happening just by that fact.
Sounds fine to me
I got my first two wins today.
grats@outer copper
The rest will probably feel as schizophrenic or PG'd out of existence too
Maybe they change it if we are vocal enough
After 40 hours in the game.
but I think it's actually realistic that Dusa would not want to have a relationship with Zag, even if she does harbor feelings for him
Probably not, they want our gameplay feedback @amber falcon
Honestly it would be cool if we had more romance options since in the past SG games they had lackluster ones
come to think of it, she stutters when talking to Meg, too
A man can hope i guess @minor oyster
For those who love Artemis so much - read about Niobe Adonis and Aura
I spent the whole final two fights kiting. Exit Wounds, Fully Loaded, and Lightning Rod.
I guess I shouldn't get my hopes up for SG doing more intimate dialog
and she has a fan board dedicated to Thanatos in the lounge
I'd joke about Achilles/Patroclus/Zag but yeah
I think megs romance is as intimate as it will get
Than's romance involved giggling
They've said they want to keep the game family friendly
whip > giggles
I was conflicted and wondered what could cause the god of death to GIGGLE
It's like the new Fire Emblem, with the bait and switch S-rank bonds
Does anybody know all the demeter duo boons and how to get them. I had a dio and demeter one and I had Poseidon and demeter. I just dont really know if there ate any others or what the pre req are for getting them
I don't know that there are any more good romantic options left
Artemis is about it
no
unless u wanna date skelly or something
Why not Tisophone
lol
Why shouldn't we???
@stark tulip Charon
Skelly is a god
They could have other Cthonic gods appear
to be fair, his whole being is a bone
artemis... is your cousin
for discount!
okay charon too
Artemis is your cousin
lmao skelly
Nyx does have a lot of children that haven't shown their faces
reminder just in case keep it clean
cousin
Wait, is bdsm censored?
Ah right
Darn

by me yes. keep it clean!
Greek religion is full of in family relationships.
He could awkwardly date one of the other furies
Okay sir
and the devs are avoiding incestual implications
furies are not permitted in the house
well greek didnt know all consequences of this
Where it is plot twist revealed that part of the conflict the furies had, was that they all wanted Zag
So if they're related to Zag by blood, they are NOT romancable
you cant even gift other furies tho
they're not well in the head department
I mean SG specifically said they wanted to avoid all the dirty parts of Greek mythology... which is most of it but yeah ahahhaa
Keeping it PG here
Heh
i mean that could change but narratively it would be a swivel
I kinda feel stupid for expecting better romantic sub-plots
Being reminded of all this
I'd actually like to see Eris and Moros make an appearance
we're not getting any gods in the flesh anymore
Idk i think the romantic sub plots are good as is
Well Hades has the spear and still shows up lol
I mean they're pretty short and flat
har har
I mean, it could be fun to have something more vulgar/mature but I think the game is way too kid friendly for this to happen
And Dusa's is a total 180
Which is fine
isn't it ironic?
Feels like it was added in just to appease the Dusa fans
Eris being the eventual final boss, could be a thing though
goddess of strife, and everything
havent done dusa yet but i dont feel than and meg are the same way
A game about death and murder is too "kid friendly" for something as mature as meaningful human drama
Then Nyx might be more terrifying if she wants Zag to stop her daughter o_o
I will say I got more unhappy about Dusa's Ambrosia dialog than when they broke Deflect Dash 
@junior field I mean that's American culture. We talk about death, guns, and murder all day long and our movies are as violent as can be. Any mention of anything sexual and its extremely taboo
That's just our culture
^
Love and the human body are off-limits for anything in public or in entertainment that isn't R-rated
Love is fine, just the body part is a no go
I think even death in this game is taken as more of a slapstick tongue in cheek joke
There are exceptions but this is generally how the public feels about these things
Particularly, nekkid bodies
how did we get there from someone getting friendzoned by a talking gorgon head
I'm still not sure if everyone appears in the pool of blood if they die, or if Than is somehow intervening on Zag's behalf
@lunar kiln chat moves in mysterious ways
Than wouldn't have any effect on Zag's deaths
@lunar kiln we're past Dusa, man
Zag is dying to conflict, out of Than's sphere of influence
people wind up in the blood pool bc where else would they
Will we be able to get friendzoned by Lernie too?
That's my question
This is important
I thought most people would just be dropped in whatever biome they got sorted into
Friendzoned would be a step up from the current enemy-zoning of the relationship, I imagine. 🤔
what if one head loves us but another rejects us?
What if Dionysus goes to grant us a boon and friendzones us
Meme: stolen.
or if everyone appears in the pool of blood, and Hades sorts them out when they show up
Not a meme! Just words that you are welcome to use. 😄
theres a line of shades, right? i assume they all walk up to hades and then poof away to where they go
yup
yeah
All words and ideas are memetic! 
zag going on a run and fighting meg and then chilling with her in the lounge after: this is a little genre i like to call enemies to lovers to enemies to lovers to enemies to lovers to-
that's why Hades calls his son a banana brain when he stumbles into Erebus
I guess I'm not sure how everything was supposed to work, if more romance options were added. Like, would everyone be expected to be ok with Zag dating them all at once, like a harlem anime?
I call it slap slap please put the whip away Meg
achkshually, Meg and Zag started as lovers
lovers to enemies to lovers to enem-
Their relationship is complicated
everyone zag dates is genuinely ok with him having multiple partners, so i dont think he'd date anyone who wasnt okay with that
they had a falling out because Zag is a pacifist and doesn't believe in eternal punishment
Meanwhile, Than is sitting there drinking nectar and wondering when Meg is just going to knock him out and find a way to stop him from escaping lol
which he picked up from hanging out with Sisyphus too much
lmao
they're already dead, dude
I mean, he killed the rats up in Styx
It'd actually be funny if Tis went "And I'm sane."
except for Satyrs and rats, that is
The rats and stayrs aren't
rats are alive!
And he didn't like killing the rats
mhm
The funny part is he never mentioned killing the Satyrs
so whats with the bothers
He's totally fine with killing them!
What are they
bothers are the same kind of drivel you see in Tartarus
the small shades occupying vases
Zag's mind: rats > satyrs
how are they so far up in the temple
they managed to sneak up by hiding in...vases
...
Zag should try that
can't get past Cerberus still though
Zag's mind, revision: rats > shades > satyrs
Zag's a bit too big for a vase
And even if Zag is ok with polyamory, it just seems awkward to be in the middle of a bad breakup with one person, then going back to that person and immediately adding a second person?
he should try a cardboard box
tisi: murrrrrrr
zag: actually i didn't murder them i killed them. murder is when you plan for it. i didnt plan on killing these rats here
tisi:
jhfvhjfjhfhjfjhgfhj
Zag's mind could also be Than = Meg > Rats > Shades > Alecto > Tisiphone > Satyrs > Hades > Cerberus bullies
Like, we really need to work out our issues... but by the way, here's a second person to make things more complicated
she's been at it since before Zag existed
the doors wouldn't open unless they were dead, therefore its more like
practical death
aight its time for hot takes
the best characters are alecto and tisiphone
you can't lawyer Tisiphone
change my mind
@coarse stone Dusa above all of those jokers though
rarely do I ever find it worth the effort to take on someone's 'change my mind' challenge
In order to lawyer Tisiphone, you would have to prove that Tisiphone herself is a murderererer
best characters how?
hjfjhfhjfhjfhj zag is passion > practicality when he makes decisions coffecrash i think thats all it is
@lunar kiln Zag: It's not manslaugher either! They're rats, not men!
ratslaughter
still not murder 🙂
zag: whys manslaughter illegal anyway. men cant find things funny??
tisi: 
And Dad even tells him that killing the satyrs is fine
OH SPEAKING OF WHICH: as 2020 is the year of the rat i think styx vermins should have a buff of some sort
Tis: Please stop telling jokes Zag. That's why Meg wants to kill you. Again.
I'm still surprised Zag hasn't pulled out the flock of crows joke with tisi yet
give them lil crowns
HFHJFHJFHJ 365 DAY BUFF
tisi: mmmMMURDER!
zag: I don't see any birds?
but only when wielding the Quan Yu spear
they don't have birds in the Underworld
Tis: sees pidgeon MUUUURDERER
Zag doesn't know what a bird is
I feel like Zag doesn't even know what a bird is
what is that funny feathered rat
remember, he didn't know what snow was
zag: killing alive things really makes me uncomfortable
achilles: dont worry about it! nobody really minds! death is just a big ol house
zag: oh okay! dont worry about murder, got it
yeah ghdchgdgh
Once he sees a one headed dog in the overworld he'll be like "Mmmmm what is this small one headed thing, a mockery of Cerberus?"
zag seeing a normal dog: OH NO ITS HURT....
zag looking at a puppy: this is so sad
Zag would probably just try to pet the dog
then wonder if Cerberus could use a friend
The next thing we know, the House is full of dogs
cerberus would eat a smaller dog , lets be real
Wouldn't he just be able to feed underworld food to the dogs and take them right into the house?
narrator sure does have a lot of why zag can't escape excuses
It's called... Steam
😛
Damn Zag so unlicky
did they add more death lines? Didn't notice
Killed by steam
"whos a good boy?, asked the prince. unfortunately, it was not the beast that devoured him.
DUN DUN DUNN DUNNNNNN
kam, we all know cerberus would eat 3 smaller dogs
jkgjhgjkg perhaps
or maybe he finds anything that isn't a rancid sack of meat unappetizing
it's a sack of rats though
"Zagreus saw a weird plant and tried to eat it. His journey thus ended in pain."
also, Cerberus eats everyone and everything trying to get in and out
it squeaks
it's rats
Whats in the smelly sack, though?
smells
What's in the saaaack?
"Zagreus attempted to swim across a beautiful lake...only to discover that he was incredibly dense."
"The Sack Contains Vermin"
you never noticed the sound it makes when you pick it up?
its called "satyr sack"
the smelly sack that smells.... smelly
They have gym bags full of sweaty socks ingame? 😮
Maybe there are Satyrs in the sack too
nah
considering zag is totally fine with killing satyrs and not rats he may not even consider them worth mentioning being in the sack 
Who knows
What if Cerberus eats socks
he does
zag isnt looking while he buys one last boon and the sacked rats all crawl away
Sadness
5 MORE TUNNELS
So Zag feeds Cerb Ratatouille?
he should try feeding Cerberus all those fish he caught on the way up
a much more varied diet would do wonders for Cerberus
not smelly enough
If you catch 3fish you should be able to get past cerberus without the sack
the sack is a balanced dinner... or breakfast. not sure what time it is down here
har har
Couldn't Zag take a squeaker toy and let Cerb destroy it...while he runs past him.

I think it's evening or night when you get out though
Does Thanatos count?
buys Cerb a toy anyways
i literally just got cerb a toy from the contractor
He's a boy toy
... accurate
Don't think he's so much a boy now :<
cerbs got a ball now, you can buy it from the contractor
too bad you can't play ball with Cerberus
I bought Cerb the bed
you can play sack though
fair
Then attempted to use Hades' spare savings funds to pay for it
I kinda find the customizations egregious
place just looks unnecessarily busy and cluttered
Too bad there isn't a customization to put everyone in funny outfits
they also widened the halls to accommodate all of the fluff stuff
so if you remove it, it looks very empty
i gotta say, after buying a bunch of things, hating them, and toggling them off, i felt a real sense of accomplishment
mhm
hypnos hated the chair i got him! he didnt show up for two runs after!
he probably got another call from Hera to put Zeus to sleep
im glad the metatext is reassuring
Hypnos is always sleeping on that chair
I comforted him but yeah the text was reassuring. Meg didn't seem mad.
They’re not Olympians, there’s no jealousy, Meg has a chat to that effect after
You can select “all of the above” on romance/giggling darkness
Lol the next line tho
From than
Our kinky poly godlings
It's interesting that Meg takes it so well, considering jealousy is sort of her thing?
I’m sure she punished Zag thoroughly and swiftly with that whip
I romanced Than, friendzoned Meg. I like to hope that she's a little happy Zag's moved on.
"Punisher of infidelity, oath breakers, and theft" I mean yeah, if it's a poly relationship then all is good
I also friendzoned Meg. Not getting whipped today ma'am
Yeah they’re not exclusive and never said they were that I saw. And based on some of the noises and such I think Zag at least used to like that whip even if he may decide he doesn’t now lol
I mean it's pretty clear what kind of relationship they had lmao
Idk why but the giggling darkness amuses me greatly
zags got a wide range of tastes, good for him
Maybe Than is ticklish?
Everytime Than shows up now I'm just like: Hey my boyfriend's back.
Clearing a room full of wretches is a great bonding activity. Talk about power couple.
You get it!
it must be SO wild to be a wretch when that happens
Tfw you make the jealous fury be up for sharing and you make death giggle and smile and argue with your dad
zags power
well to be fair, Than would probably argue against Hades regardless of his relationship with Zag
Than is definitely ticklish. I love it
omg.... cute
True, for me he didn’t tho, not sure if that was just random
Ares approved of the relationship and I didn't know I needed that in my life. He's like my favorite god.
Oh god yeah the ares dialogue about than
I just had Aphrodite comment on Than and Zag's romance
Regardless of his relationship, probably, but he's arguing against Hades because of Zagreus
Aphro commented on it today too. Ares must have been gossiping 👀
ohoooo olympian gossip...
Aphrodite talked to me about meg one run, than the run after
and hermes comments too!
aphro also comments on you romancing dusa
Dear Aph, don't make me turn the hose on you D:<
I think he said he saw Than smiling and it's cute ok
Can you do all three romances at once? Just to confirm, I assume yes
I think in some cases, it'd probably be terrifying to see Than smiling
Imagine having a solemn melancholy death, then you see the god of death standing there with a grin on his face
it takes a lil getting used to but his smile is cuteee 
hgfcghdhdcghdgh youre like "uh oh" but hes just thinking abt how his crush said he liked him back
Idk that’d be kinda comforting vs his stonefaced annoyance at my eating into his work day
Hermes told me that Than cracked a smile when talking about Zag.
Not sure if I should be asking this but how's the Dusa "romance" exactly? It's not weird is it?
So Than gossips about Zag
you want spoilers?
Spoiler tag em
I mean, you wanna know how it ends or not?
Yeah, I kinda do
cause we already talked about it here, openly
ok, here goes
it goes nowhere
the end
kam I hope you realize every time you do that hgfcghdhdc thing I'm imagining the adorable little crustacean fish thing in your avatar making that noise
please do. fish gurgling a laugh along with me
hahaha
Honestly I’m mainly living for the meg/Dusa sisterhood this patch
Dusa does clean Zag's room though
i think it makes a chitter tho
she doesn't clean the mess because that is Zag's room
What if she decided to work with Meg to get revenge on Zag's mess
tbh i was megdusa this whole time but im not even mad they got galpaled bc theyre such good pals
sameeeee
And get his stuff covered with random Zag stuff?
I don't think he has stuff to move
Could almost imagine the conversation..."Than...do you even have any clothes that aren't the color of my father's soul?"
other than himself, the robe, the sandals, and the scythe
the first thing to move in is his black nailpolish
Wouldn't it be his wall poster of Zag?
darkness courses through Than's veins
Imagine him wear the same bright pink nailpolish Meg does
ooohh itd really pop
Imagine him in a bodysuit like Meg's
Don't give me any ideas
glowering that he's never making any bets with Hypnos ever again.
pretty sure his half robe is far more exposing than Meg's work outfit
Well maybe not if you don't scale the size
but the question would end up being that Meg might just be mischeviously diabolical
or imagine a scenario that Than is a terrible gambler. And lost to Dusa.
And now she's going to tickle him with the feather duster?
That reminds me of something oddly enough lol
I was listening to some of Tangled's music in Nightcore and I swear Edin Epinosa sounds like Dusa
I listened to Crossing the Line and imagined Dusa taking over the House of Hades
with a feather duster
Terrifying
Eh, Achilles/Patroclus would be particularily interesting in dynamics, just add Zag
Bouldy is taken, by Sisyphus
Nobody said it would be free of violence or heartbreak
or Meg's sarcasm apparently
Oh can we romance that separate from her
"Zag, of all of the bright ideas that you've ever had. You brought a giant rock into the House. I don't get paid enough to deal with this."
I doubt Bouldy would fit into his bedchamber
Slaps Hades with the feather duster
and tells him to do his own cleaning
Hades would be angry but he's too busy sneezing because Dusa has impeccable aim
next one is obviously dad
on the other had i already had zag say he cant stop thinking of theseus or something in that direction
(when i installed his portrait)
UHHH what
yeah, can't stop thinking about ways to shut him up
Yeah, Theseus is kinda...obnoxious lol
Pretty sure Zag'd rather put Theseus into a tin can and save Asterius from suffering the indignity of dealing with him lol
Nobody likes Theseus
Only Theseus likes Theseus
I'd choose the Minotaur over Theseus any day
If what I've seen in this chat is true, Dusa's conversation route is super disappointing
Out of curiosity, how do you unlock Dusa's companion? For basically all of the others it essentially the end of some line of tasks which take either a lot of time or resources
which gods make duo boons with demeter? having a bit of a hard time finding any
thanks!
can you get all these boons in one run?
Winter Harvest is pretty strong, though I got mine in Styx so it didn't...really do much when I got to the final boss x9
No. Many of them need a cast as a part of it
Ice wine needs festive fog, crystal clarity needs demeter's cast etc
The first 3 need one of the god's cast
Yeah I think you could get one of the first three, then either of the last two
Gj team lol
Blizzard shot + cold fusion seems insane, if it works the way I think it does. /Nope I was thinking of these two + sea storm
Poseidon is more fun to play with now anyway thanks to the extra damage on bosses boon
Also Demeter is great for basically every run so far it seems, but i def like it on the new spear. Demeter attack with the spin to slow them while hitting them and healing you
Other than cast which seems gimmicky for now without duo
I like the cast, but i'll always try to go for the duo just because it makes it so much better
Demeter + Artemis duo definitely helps make the cast of Demeter more effective. I still laugh at how it practically turns into a turret.
auto-lock turret
Related to weapons, I enjoy that Skelly really baited me into spending 5 TB on Zag's aspect sword just to "kill" him.
"hey, boyo. I wanna die."
Zag "uh..."
Me "ok" spams the last leveling and kills him
"you just got PRANK'D"
Skelly is the best boyo 💀
I wish Dusa's was something like that. Instead of the game having her frothing at the mouth with hearts at the very sight of Zagreus, only to say "Nah we're platonic"
Hades probs got some stupid house rule where the servants can't be romantically involved with the Crown.
Seeing the peasantry as love intrest? Pathetic
Aren't they all servants of Hades, though? They all work for him in some capacity. If anything, it was Nyx basically chewing out Dusa for being into Zagreus. But why then would Dusa want a moment alone to say the exact thing her superiors would want her to say?
It just seems kind of silly to have a character who is fawning over Zagreus suddenly not be interested when you fill their heart meter. The conclusion doesn't fit with the build up.
Isn't all Zag doing is showing appreciation?
if there's one thing sg is unlikely to change regardless of feedback, it's the storylines
So far, I also think Than and Meg are the only two that have that arrow thing, which I imagine is the romance thing.
so i just ran into a meg & dusa conversation where meg tells dusa that she and zag are a thing and like. says if dusa has an issue with it she'll call it off
which is so darn wholesome
Nyx is just looking out for Zag
last time someone fell in love with Dusa, Athena threw a hissy fit
i like the way you think @shy anvil
dusa has the arrow thing too but it ends up friendzone, and it's weird because even after being friendzoned aphrodite comments on your relationship with dusa
In the myth, isn't it because tehy did it within her "presence," via Athena's Temple?
even though you don't really have a romantic one
i thought it was because she was a main priestess or something
That's exactly what I mean. It's just really weird writing. Building them up as being super in love/lust, then just being all "Nope, friendzoned!" and then having conversations that indicate there's a relationship there.
Is there seriously a build-up like that? Eesh
It feels like there's supposed to be a second step or something that hasn't made it in, or they just decided it'd be funny to do a bait and switch at whiplash speeds
Dusa is swarmed with hearts whenever she sees Zagreus, gets nervous around him, and bolts out of embarrassment whenever she speaks to him. Nyx even tells her to stop fawning all over him at one point, Meg comments on Dusa's attraction to her, and other characters comment on Dusa's personality as well.
mm, I didn't like the progression of the dialogue for the dusa quest, that's for sure, because it felt romantic up until the second to last conversation where dusa has to think about zag's confession to her
and suddenly you're friendzoned so it felt a little eh
Hmm ok. I guess I'll just not max her then. That feels a bit too weird for my tastes
sounds like real life
I would have preferred a different buildup if they were going to go the solid friendship route
Honestly, I'd support a Meg x Zag x Than if I could make that a thing... eventually.
Maybe it's just me but I didn't get the impression that Zag was into floating gorgon heads but I guess I'm wrong
you can date both of them and i believe they (meg and than) talk about it at some points, but i don't know about them being a triad instead of a poly angle
look, poseidon tapped that, Dusa's no slouch when it comes to beauty
I would have preferred it if she were just platonically nervous around Zagreus, in the "Oh you're important and my boss kind of!" way. Then the friendzone thing would have made sense. Instead, she's constantly drooling over Zagreus until he shows interest in her, and then it's like a switch went off in her brain.
however toushindai on ao3 has a really good fic that sort of explores uh. the than/zag/meg in a way that crashes and burns really nicely
honestly though if that's how dusa goes -- has a big crush until he returns her attentions and then it's just gone -- that's me IRL for real
F
if it's not unattainable it's no longer interesting haha
There certainly are people like that. It's usually a sign of serious issues, or manipulation. No healthy person loses a hardcore infatuation like that the instant affections are returned.
Like, there's a difference between finding the unapproachable exciting, and being super attracted to a friend and colleague throughout many conversations, and instantly being turned off when they say they're also into you.
OT but there might not always be issues behind it. Some people prefer the fantasy to stay as such
And that's not healthy.
I think if she really does go like that, it's more "I'm in love with the IDEA of the Prince Zagreus. But then he turned out better/worst than I had expected, and that's not as hawt."
I believe having fantasies is totally healthy but I'll not comment on that anymore
I just enjoy Zag breaking rules and what of them is interacting with "The Help™️" more than Hades would like. Treating them like... beings, with respect, and agency.
^ i agree with that
Fantasies are nice. I'm already fantasizing about my fave ship already
And that one sprite of Than
still scares me
zagreus being functionally the complete opposite of hades is something i love
which sprite?
The one where he looks forward and smiles a little.
Having fantasies is healthy. Fixating on a person and then losing interest the moment they're interested isn't the same as having a healthy, functional fantasy though. I've fantasized about people before, but the reality is always different from the fantasy.
But I don't sit there having conversations with a friend or coworker and fantasizing about them, then the moment they're into me, my emotions get cancelled like I'm some sociopath. Maybe sociopath is a bit harsh, but...
a lot of people seem to be weirded out by than's and meg's smiling facces
i wonder why
Maybe it's because they're usually grumpy and whatnot... I don't think Meg looks as scary but yeah
Than, I mostly didn't expect because the same sprite kept appearing whenever he spoke. As for Meg, Idk. I might have seen that one once or twice.
Alecto with an actual angry sprite would be interesting...
I just mostly meant in dialogue, though I've noticed that with some changes, the only time she actually becomes enraged is when I get her at 20%. She used to be able to get angry at least 2 times before 20%
God, I hate those blades
I do like that that attack's unique to her
ik, i'm just joking
Tisiphone's blinding attack during extreme measure definitely help me not find her other two sisters.
Ahh I hate that one. It's just the worst
That's why I think Tis is the easiest main fury
that is terrifying
That would suck, especially since her room is the only room with traps either, so imagine that + traps also come in closer.
Am I the only one who prefers small stages? I hate Meg's stage the most, it's quite large and it can be hard to find her, with all the shades she summons and everything
That + Tis' blinding smoke. All hope is lost
Meg summoning wretches during the fight is why I thought she was hard.
and hoping she wasn't the only boss for Tartarus
But then I turned on God Mode and got Alecto and Tisiphone but no Meg.
my dumb lesbian input of the day: id like it if alecto beat me up with her bare hands
hey so like
i forgot to screen shot it but
one ending i got says that zagreus steps on a rake and it bltas him in the face and that is what kills him
Seems like Poseidon has done some traveling!
Got this from him in a Guan Yu run:
Say, what exactly is that very mighty-looking spear I think I faintly see in your possession there, it's... why, I've not seen a thing like that except on very distant shores! It's almost as impressive as my trident here! Almost, I say!
Other interesting implications:
- confirms that the spear isn't terribly displaced chronologically, as Poseidon has seen it or something like it
- Gods don't have a great view of what's actually happening down in Hades, and are kinda just blindly throwing support at Z?
yeah, they didn't even know zag existed until Nyx asked them to help Zag
there's also a dialogue where zag comments that than kept crying when he lost his plushi
sort of implies they knew each other as kids
which is weird since i assume they'd know than
but didn't know zag
ohh yeah i forgot than oes out of tartarus too
they'd know him
Well, do you think Hades ever gave Zag any significant responsibilities that would catch the eye of the gods? Than's work takes him out onto the surface, and we know his work brings him in contact with a couple Olympians.
Which is weird, right? Especially as the child of 2 full Olympian Gods.
yeah
how do i fish
Hey this is a spoiler about Zag's godly status so if you haven't had dialogue from Demeter yet then don't read this
||Persephone's father was a human farmer, making her a demigod, which means Zagreus is a demigod too||
Can someone dm me how exactly to get Sisyphus and Dusa companion? I feel like I'm close, yet could use some help 😂
@twilit swan there are shiny spots in liquid that you can press your interact button on. They make a noise in the room when you clear it so that helps a bit in finding them. They can spawn anywhere (from the very first room till the end)
So I lost my save when I moved to a new computer.
does anyone know what triggers thanatos to show up?
I miss my butterfly
@full pike pretty sure it's just run until you stumble upon him
I think you have to take damage before he shows up too
I just noticed there was a tree person bathing in the styx cure ponds
argh
I'm drinking tree people bathwater
Eh, could be worse tbh
this is not the tea I wanted
I'd rather drink bathwater than the plague xD
I thought those were mandrakes or something
He likes Than at least 😛
But I don't think Than is a cureall
are you calling Than a vegetable?
Okay I just got my favorite new conversation from this update
i think you're confusing him with his brother
Well Hypnos is a potato
Dionysus encouraging Zagreus to mess with Orpheus and then you getting to do exactly that next time you're in the House
classic Dion
Than would be...maybe a carrot?
i can't think of a plant with than's skin tone
@shy anvil I think it's more likely that Persephone is a vegetable right now
idgi
Just has to put a crown pumpkin on his head
and take Zag with him
Than: Give us candy.
Zag: That's...not how this works, Than, you have to ask.
absolutely id give them both candy
I'd have a feeling that Than'd bring Meg trick or treating just to get more candy
thinking abt than chewing on any sort of really sticky candy with a pained look on his face
||https://gyazo.com/ce711f1d5c758ce64fa99d35d338c723 Gigaros?||
delicious.
zags into bubble gum
okay the mental image of those two getting roped into things by an over-excitable Zagreus is bring me such joy
Meg likes lollipops. Just to torment Zag's brain.
Alecto would then appear, steal all of the spicy candy. Then get mad because she didn't realize it was that spicy.
"Than look at that!" "Yes, Zagreus, it's a crowd of people." "Living humans doing mortal things though..."
nyx: take your brother trick or treating, would you?
than: ugghhhhhhh i hate the surface whyyyy
zag: oooh can i go with you two? i always wanted-
than: MOM IM GOING TRICK OR TREATING WITH MY FRIEMD HYPNOS CAN FOLLOW IF HE LIKES
just like, take a break Than relax with your bf
Somehow I think Zag would probably just rope Meg and Than into wearing funny costumes
Hypnos being carried around in a wagon because he's too sleepy to walk
Probably'd put Than into a grim reaper costume with a pumpkin head
meg: zag, they think we are in costume.
zag: aw thats no fun!!
Zag'd try to convince Meg to be a doctor or a nurse
She'd refuse to relinquish her whip though
meg was an angel in the halloween art 😂
wait halloween art
Somehow I can almost imagine Meg being...less than happy about being an angel
yesss jen n joanne each did one!
this sounds amazing
scroll up in announcements!
I will have to do this
Tisiphone would be a creepy horror movie villain
or just go as herself, seems to work
aaaawww now im thinking abt the three of them going as adults bc zags finally fought his way out and can join them :')))
zag: WHEW, just made it! think the mortals will assume all this blood is fake?
Than and Meg: No
oh my god those are adorable
I can almost imagine a kid thinking that Than's scythe is a prop
I really just love thinking about those three in general and I want them to be happy
Thang etting into a fight with a kid to stop them from playing with his scythe
some very small kid reaching to touch the scythe and hes like "ah ah not yet no what are you DOING"
zag picks the kid up and puts them safely down at a distance and has NO idea how scary that is
Then we find out that Meg has a protege
I love that after you get the conversations where Zag makes sure they're both okay with everything you can find them sitting in the lounge and Meg will tell you that they were just talking about you in this tone that's definitely meant to make him worry
Yeah, a private conversation about him lol
just looming over with puppy eyes because he must know what his loves are saying about him
yesss
Hopefully they put in more events for the romances
zag knocking on the first trick or treatee's door: HI YOURE ALIVE :D!!!!!!
them, lookin at this mythic man coveres in blood and fire at his forehead: 
and he's dressed up as something that Meg and Than forced him into
I would love that, PandaBrunya. I really enjoyed how their romances played out (especially Than because I'm weak and gay) so any more of that would be awesome
theyre dressed up as the kid, red, and hedwyn
Or Zag could be dressed up as Asterius, Than as Theseus, and Meg as Circe
Than is obviously not happy about the situation
okay that argument is amazing to imagine tho
"Zag, why do I have to dress up as the egotistical king. I don't have the ego for it, thank you very much."
"And why am I not wearing NORMAL clothes. I blame you for this Zag."
zag: trick or treat!
darren korb: [opens his doorb]
jfkckgk
hades: trick.
zag: i.....i didn't think that far
Meg: This IS your father's house.
Than: Megara, that is not funny.
That could be a funny "Zag died" screen though
like that Zag wanted to forget the day ever happened
'zag has died of dysentery'
'Zag has discovered Than's love of puns'
I wonder what Meg and Than would say to Zag if they caught him being a brat to Orpheus
They'd probably encourage Orpheus to sing a song about their relationship
In public.
Loud and on repeat.
Yeah, he's a sucker for romance, love, and epics
I feel like Than would just stare Orpheus down and the poor shade would melt
no need for Meg's whip just the withering gaze of Death
Than would probably find somewhere nice, dark, and away from every single living and nonliving thing to wait out the horrors of having his love life revealed in front of his mother
meg: and how by any chance did orpheus discover our UNDER WRAPS relationship
zag: um
meg: could it by any chance be the GIANT MURAL ON TOP OF YOUR DOOR
zag: agghhh. yeah. yeah thatd do it
Than: The artistry is...average. I'm much better looking than that. And I'm NOT scary.
Hades just gripes about Orpheus being too noisy without even paying attention to the lyrics because he's above all that
love that the mural also features a bunch of random nondescript figures, so that anyone else zag romances he can point and go "....and thats you!" As needed
Than: Zag, why is there a gorgon head in this pict...
Zag: SHHH
Dusa: I'm going to go up to the rafters now.
Meg: And why is Tisiphone in this picture?
Zag: We bonded over a riveting discussion about murder and murderers.
Achilles: My prince, do I really want to know why you had Patroclus and myself painted as well?
"You're an inspiration."
Zag: I'm a complicated guy, okay D:
zag: yes! and you two are holding hamds and also holding my hands!
zag: 
if we never get to reunite them I will cry forever
same
SAME
Hades: And people call me melodramatic.
hdjfkgj well if it werent for SOMMMEBODY SEPARATING THEM i wouldn't BEEEE melodramatix
Hades: Not my fault that someone didn't put in an Underworld Request Transfer 2.871 Form E12.
Must I do everything around here?
like sometimes I think about how long they must have been apart with Patroclus never knowing why he was alone and I get like, actually sad
yeah :((((
Yeah, what makes it worse is that Achilles knows
=x
and he continually repeats a mantra about fear
So I wonder if he fears never seeing Patroclus again
I think he must
and I feel like he regrets his decision even though he really wanted to protect Patroclus and make him happy
but if Patroclus wanted to join Achilles, why doesn't he just do stuff that gets him kicked out of Elysium
I think by now he's just...lost all his fight
Wouldn't that be a reasoning for him to not be in Elysium? xD
That's typically for warriors
and maybe he's trapped there since it was specially arranged for him to be transferred there
hhh yeah....besides, if he got knocked back hed be in asphodel, not the house ;;
well just get kicked out of Asphodel too
make the Hydra listen to horrible Asphodel puns
Or better yet, have Zag summon Thanatos
maybe Than can do something to help
It's hard because Achilles was really clear that Zag shouldn't really talk about the deal he made
because it will just make things worse
Well Zag doesn't want to lie to Than
and doesn't have to mention the deal
Just point out that they both miss each other
and that Patroclus wants to be punished more
(preferably by anyone other than Alecto or Tisiphone)
I wonder if the way to go about it would be to free Achilles rather than Patroclus
That might be true, if Achilles is released from his Zag tutoring duty
Then Than could probably sneak him up to Elysium
Than's no stranger to breaking and bending the rules.
I mean he did install the BF GPS in Mort to give to Zag
"I'm just passing through", convenient timing that, if Zag is being punished, Than comes to be the knight in shining armor
Except Than is more of a "Knight in Sarcastic 'Please stop getting killed' armor"
Every time I hear the bell toll I get almost as excited as Zag does
I'd like if Zag and Than flirted if they completed their romance when he appears
Yeah I'd love some lines that only show up after that
"Whoever falls behind pays for dinner, so get ready Zag."
"Why can't I ever find you somewhere nice and NOT about to be stabbed by your father's minions?"
Or if you romance Meg
Alecto can tell Meg and Zag to get a room
(Preferably one that she's NOT in)
or Zag giving him a hard time because he has to almost die again to see his bf
I don't thinkZag would give Than a hard time for that since it's technically not his fault
Zag could use a kiss to make him feel better though!
Not like in a mean way just like "You work too much"
Then Than could reply that Zag doesn't need to get beaten up to get kisses.
that's meg's role
yeah, Than could be snarky and say that he's not Meg
and he'd rather not have Alecto and Tisiphone as siblings
and coworkers
but there's just so much potential ;x
these would be cuteeee jfjfjf let them flirt in battle!!
If Meg and Zag ended up flirting before beating each other up
Alecto would probably just go "Would you both just go back and get a room? Preferably his."
Basically Meg would drive her sisters batty
I mean Zag already does that
alecto: YOU?? and HIMMM???? meg i get to make fun of you forever now
Tisiphone: Murderer? You're involved with the MURDERERERERERERER?
I think she'd end up breaking, period lol
I have a hunch Tisiphone is reallllyyy good at facepalms
Well yeah, I mean her vocabulary literally is two words
and she's surrounded by...well, not very intelligent individuals
tisiphone expert at cutting glares
Okay, there seems to be a HUGE spoiler in the description of the "Petals, Ever Falling" upgrade at the house contractor. I don't know if it's a real spoiler or some sort of joke, but it's uncool either way. :(
whattt, which? :<
||Adds +150% drama while succeeding the throne.||
AH mfjgjgj ||tbh i assumed that meant hades? but idk||
||He can't succeed his own throne, tho||
HMM
Talking about switching the topic, does anyone else get apocalyptic Cthulhu-esque vibes from Demeter? With her “I will take everything away” and “Soon all will decay” and “Next time I’ll take away any warmth you might have had down there (in hell, presumably?)”
Is Demeter the bbeg or did I miss a memo and everyone already knows that?
I might have gotten super used to verbal abuse by other gods so idk
I think it might a reference or the story of the game...
Cause in the myth ||when persephone is in hell, demeter brings winter||
Oh she's definitely very ominous
Ares alludes to supporting her a lot more lately than he used to, for one
Yeah like, all gods are like “haha I like murder it’s fun 👉😎👉” and then Demeter is like “I will literally kill all things, living and dead 😠”
Even Ares seems straight up jolly in comparison to her more radical lines
I feel like the fact that she’s the eldest is making her like this
Actually you know what
Zeus is probably close to her age and he’s like the happy uncle from christmas parties...
Yeah, just wait till Demeter knows about what Hades did with Persephone, there would be a literally Civil War in that Family Feud
I just found out that Demeter, Hera, Hestia are all sisters
I mean, look outside, I kinda think there is a civil war
While the males like Zeus, Hades, Poseidon are considered as "adopted" to Demeter's family.
oh yeah... didnt than mentionned it once?
Also considering Hera and Hestia aren’t actually on Olympus
I mean, why would gods suddenly stir up such a fuss about a kid being rebellious unless there was a way to use him as a pawn in like a political shtick
Because Demeter disclosed that Zeus, Hades and Poseidon are not blood-related to her sisters Hera and Hestia
Imagine what kind of scandals if they all find out about Hades married Persephone
That's why Hades trying so hard to keep Zag in hell!
wait what? demeter said that?
Yeah, just connecting the dots
I didnt even knew that
At first I thought "cute, Hera and Zeus are not actually related. The boys were adopted. So not as bad. Hera and Zeus are not doing incest in this game. And Poseidon were not trying to court his sister Hestia as well".
Thing goes underwater for like a second
You click during the second exactly and boom
Fish
Not while it barely goes down
But then I put 2 and 2 together. Hades is trying to hide Zag's existence away because once Olympus finds out why Demeter's so pissed in the first place and the whole family scandal "Uncle Hades married his nephew-in-law in the Underworld!", Hades is as good as dead to Demeter's side of the family
Just do nothing at all one time and see that there’s like this one moment when it goes down for slightly longer than the regular blips @primal atlas
Which makes me wonder: did Zeus know about what Hades did with Persephone? Is that why Zeus said he "wanted for forgive" Hades?
Because in the myth that I'm familiar with first, Zeus was the one who ordered Eros to make Persephone falling in love and betroth her away.
But Demeter disrupted that process and Eros' arrow "missed" and fell to the (under)ground, hitting Hades instead. Hence the whole kidnapping.
And also, is that why Apollo/Helios still missing in this game? Because in the myth, Demeter did not initially know where Persephone went after the kidnapping.
That's why she's all withered and old while wandering and searching for her missing daughter (poor Demeter). Hence the Original Winter, since Demeter was too busy searching than taking care of the crops and trees.
So Helios who saw what happened had to tell Demeter about the kidnapping. I guess we haven't reached this stage of the myth yet.
Just fought the Hydra on the new patch, thank the gods they decreased the number of phases, makes an underworld of a difference.
Amen
amen indeed
Best feature ever, ||after all the dating dating of course||
I just realized one of the SG staff's Discord icon rn is of the Head Chef of the House.
WAIT they decreased hydra phases???
yes
Zagreus: What's cooking good looking?
thought i just didnt count right lol
ahhhhh
does make it a lot more hectic though :V can't imagine what it's like on extreme measure
OMGGGG, just got a speech from demeter and grandma is unaware of anything!!! the plot thickens so much, im so absolutely invested
@paper pawn very nice, i still need a bunch more titan blood to max out all the aspects
I do like that it's 3 to 6 instead of 3 to 4 to 6
