#h1-story-discussion

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north remnant
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Glad they finally made it so you can't infinitely miss meg

carmine flower
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god. i love meg.

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sorry im just really gay and i saw meg and my monkey brain ignored everything else

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anyway. love meg. love grandma. lovin this game.

north remnant
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But dusa is the best, by far

carmine flower
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would love it if i stopped dying

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man. idk. dusa's cool and all but meg is very mean.

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i find that attractive in a woman.

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my favorite movie as a child was mean girls and that says a lot about me as a human being

crude gazelle
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I haven't talked to grandma alot yet but i hope there is a line where she notices zags resemblance to Persephone .

carmine flower
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i mean she probably KNOWS

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and just isnt saying anything

crude gazelle
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Possibly, though all the other gods are fooled

carmine flower
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its implied her and hades hate each other through achilles's journal but he 'doesnt know why'

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i can only assume they hate each other because of....

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stare ya know...

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but she might believe he's nyx's son who knows

crude gazelle
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maybe she actually wants to help her grandson out bc she knows, or that she just wants to get back at hades

carmine flower
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but she's the only olympian who knows about persephone so far

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(implied to, at least)

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i mean id hope shed know

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thats her daughter

crude gazelle
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well yeah she knows, but i feel like maybe shes the only one of the gods who really thinks of persephone.

tiny sequoia
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demeter probably has her number

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so she can perse phone her

carmine flower
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oh god i was in here like a year ago and i found my old posts

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Past me: Wheres melinoe and macaria
Me now: meg step on me

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priorities change

crude gazelle
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I did max hearts with meg first, but it was mostly out of how i love the chemistry between her and zag.

waxen wing
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Did not know you could romance

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Some wild stuff during my run

bold knot
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im going to date a god

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you cant stop me

knotty raft
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The best roguelike dating sim

waxen wing
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Guys

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She uses that whip for something else

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INTENSE EYEBROW RAISE

bold knot
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no

waxen wing
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No I’m actually serious

bold knot
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bull herding

carmine flower
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God. Meg. Step on my throat.

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Anyway

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It'd be neat to romance the gods

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But also weird I guess?

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This game has done a good job at hiding how incesty the gods are

waxen wing
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So far from what I’ve seen you can romance only Meg or Than

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I romanced Meg tho

carmine flower
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i hear you can romance both no consequence

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so im definitely doing that

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but going for meg first bc

waxen wing
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Yeah it’s true I’ve seen lol

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WHIP

carmine flower
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purpleh meg

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that too

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me, hoarding nectar bottles so i can give them to her

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god. i wish i could give her more than one at once

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pls queen take them

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theyre all for you

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[lana del rey vc] its you its you its all for you everything i do

tiny sequoia
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woud be interesting if you could give bottles to characters when they're bosses

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hey i know we're about to beat each other up but have some juice

waxen wing
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Save the ambrosia this last 3 are only ambrosia gifts NOT nectar

carmine flower
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i have 2 ambrosia bottles

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i havent unlocked the shield yet

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and for the LIFE of me

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i can NOT

waxen wing
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LOL

carmine flower
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win a run with the bow and arrow

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its so hard

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i hate it

waxen wing
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Chiron aspect thooo

carmine flower
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me, spamming q

bold knot
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I can't even remember what I had for runs

carmine flower
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i use spear mostly

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sometimes sword bc knock back is good

bold knot
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shield is my go to

carmine flower
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and i dont care for poseidon much

bold knot
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your primary becomes a dash that can kick ass

carmine flower
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so inherent knock back? good

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mmmm...might unlock shield

waxen wing
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Everyone’s using spear rn because of Guan Lo aspect op op

carmine flower
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i dont have that and idk where to get it

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i hauled my lil butt up to the surface just for grandma

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everything else was bg noise

waxen wing
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You gotta unlock at least 4 or 5 aspects then a quest symbol will appear next time you talk to Achilles

bold knot
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does it have different unlock reqs than other aspects?

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ah

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neat

carmine flower
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sorry im head empty what is an aspect again

waxen wing
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Do beware tho you still need titan’s blood to open the aspect still

bold knot
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thing you unlock with titan blood

carmine flower
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OH okay thank u

waxen wing
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Aspects are powers that change the way your weapons behave

tiny sequoia
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you dont even get aspects until you unlock all weapons, right?

carmine flower
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i blanked out hard

waxen wing
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I think?

tiny sequoia
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or is that a different thing

waxen wing
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I heard from someone that you just need to get past the hydra once

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But I dunno

bold knot
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that might be it

carmine flower
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example of how empty my head is: started thinking about meg

bold knot
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heh

waxen wing
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WHIP

carmine flower
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im just...gay.

bold knot
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WHIP

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where was I

waxen wing
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So is Artemis

bold knot
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oh yeah, aspects

carmine flower
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regina george, meg, amora and various other mean girls can kill me and id say thank you

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ARTEMIS

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love her

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would love to kiss her

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anyway aspects

bold knot
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I will admit artemis is my favourite, threw all the nectar I had at her

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seems to be the most chill outta the gods

tiny sequoia
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what if artemis meg meetcute

bold knot
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still very likely to smite

tiny sequoia
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slowburn 50k

bold knot
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but less

waxen wing
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Unfortunately there’s nothing if you full gift any gods yet

bold knot
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uh

waxen wing
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OH

bold knot
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petty I guess?

waxen wing
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Fun fact

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Did you know you can gift Sisyphus’ Boulder?

bold knot
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what

waxen wing
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For a random buff that run

bold knot
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WHAT

waxen wing
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YES

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I just found out today

bold knot
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does it have a portrait

waxen wing
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His name is Bouldy

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Yes 👍🏽

bold knot
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bruh

waxen wing
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It’s adorable

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You do need to gift Sisyphus to talk Bouldy tho

bold knot
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I think I did

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gonna try that

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think the only person I havent gifted is

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uh

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who was it

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one of the gods

waxen wing
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He mentions it too “I talk to my boulder when I need a shoulder to lean on. You should try it too, Prince Z.”

bold knot
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hm

waxen wing
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Demeter?

bold knot
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haven't played the update yet actually

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I took a break from hades

carmine flower
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is sisyphus in love with zag

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everytime i talk to him

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theres a little heart

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i want to romance sisyphus

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he deserves it

waxen wing
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Nah he just vibin’

carmine flower
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god.....me too.......

waxen wing
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You can release him from his prison

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It’s in the contractors

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After you gift him max

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(With nectar)

bold knot
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don't really know my mythology, how did he cheat death, exactly?

carmine flower
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the zag and sisyphus theme song is kiss yo homies

daring imp
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How do I fish?

carmine flower
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he shoved tanatos in a jar

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and didn't let him out

daring imp
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i want fishs

bold knot
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wha really

carmine flower
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so no one died

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im p sure yeah

bold knot
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darn

carmine flower
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i can fact check

waxen wing
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Get the fishing rod from the contractors then find shiny spots after fights

carmine flower
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im a pjo geek and also have useless knowledge all the time and greek myths is one of em

waxen wing
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When the bob goes fully under pull right then and there

carmine flower
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nope wrong myth

waxen wing
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You’ll know if you caught the fish too late if the bait is t bobbing no more

carmine flower
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that was a different guy who cheated death

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my bad

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thanatos DID get shoved in a jar at one point tho so have fun imagining that

bold knot
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yeah feel like sisyphus would've been a lot worse off

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if he pulled that stunt

carmine flower
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sisyphus told his wife to like

waxen wing
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I wonder if there’s a sex scene for Zag and Than...

carmine flower
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not give him a proper burial

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and then he was like

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boohoo

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wife didnt give me a proper burial, hades

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persephone was like

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wrow

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send him back

fresh socket
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this game man

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absolutely mindblowing

waxen wing
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psh his wife is no where compared to the BOULDER

fresh socket
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just beat Hades for the first time

carmine flower
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the game is accessible by children so i doubt there will be sexual content

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maybe suggestive

fresh socket
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that was the best action game I think I've ever played

carmine flower
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MAYBE a fade to black

waxen wing
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I mean if you romance Meg there’s a sex scene lol

carmine flower
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if we're lucky

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DEAD ASS?

waxen wing
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Yeah that’s the sec scene lol

carmine flower
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NEVERMIND THEN.

waxen wing
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You hear laughing and a crack of her whip then Zag giggling

carmine flower
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thats a fade to black

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i thought there was explicitness

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i was about to scream

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elifdngjlk

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anyway

waxen wing
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You have the option : “Go to her” “Ease back”

carmine flower
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time to

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throw myself at meg a lot

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die

waxen wing
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I absolutely did

bold knot
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well that's neat

carmine flower
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give her everything in my god damn pockets

bold knot
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new goal

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I'm going to bang a god

waxen wing
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BUT WHY CAN’T I ROMANCE THE HEAD

carmine flower
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maam run me for my money

bold knot
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which tho

carmine flower
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fangs

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no body

bold knot
waxen wing
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DUSA BBY dusa

daring imp
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Wait I can't romance Dusa?

bold knot
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dusa is pretty cool

waxen wing
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No

carmine flower
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no

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just meg and than for now

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man. cant wait for meg to top me

daring imp
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😢

cloud lion
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rooThink still have no luck with grandma's duo

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grandma doesn't like me bloboohcry

atomic forge
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i did it boyos

bold knot
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lol I wonder if they're gonna allow god romances

waxen wing
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You can get a companion from Dusa tho

bold knot
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y'all ready for the incest

carmine flower
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I wonder if they're gonna add the other olympians

waxen wing
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💀💀💀

carmine flower
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please i just want

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i NEED

bold knot
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wait how many of them are related?

carmine flower
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apollo

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he needs to be

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a twink

daring imp
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Is Hypnos hitting on Than?

carmine flower
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all of the gods are related technically

cloud lion
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wdym related.

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all the gods are pretty much relatives tbh

carmine flower
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yeah

waxen wing
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Hypnos hit on Meg and well...I banged her so that sucks for him

bold knot
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poor guy

carmine flower
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hypnos is meg's brother if thats a hint about how incesty things get

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can i romance hypnos actually

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i would like to romance hypnos

waxen wing
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*step brother

carmine flower
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he's a twink.

daring imp
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Chaos is a twink

waxen wing
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The furies are adopted from Nyx

carmine flower
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chaos is NOT a twink

waxen wing
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Hypnos and Than came from Nyx

daring imp
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Whats the enby equivalent of twink

bold knot
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I read furies as furries

waxen wing
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Oh no

soft iris
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Wait can someone tell me whats the connection of guan yi and the greek gods?

carmine flower
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.

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i cursed

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the bot scared me

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im weeping

daring imp
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lmao

bold knot
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Been wondering about that

carmine flower
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whatever the hades chaos's body type is

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its definitely not twink

waxen wing
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Nothing a man not from Greece wielded the spear before Achilles died

carmine flower
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MAYBE twunk if we're pressed

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but they is chunky

bold knot
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what does the bot consider as foul language I wonder

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man I got sidetracked

carmine flower
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the h e double hockey stick is profanity

waxen wing
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I dunno if he insinuated that he was killed by the spear and this man but I dunno

bold knot
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heh

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hockey stick

carmine flower
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heck

daring imp
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h*ck

bold knot
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battle out of heck

carmine flower
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erbgjr

bold knot
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SIDETRACKED

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anyway, I should try more aspects

daring imp
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im gonna die in styx

bold knot
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as much as I like the shield

waxen wing
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Does He double L count as a curse? Because this is Hades they literally say it

daring imp
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the rail does not do well against poison shots

carmine flower
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i think there should be a demeter-aphrodite combo called cold shoulder

bold knot
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the special seems to be useless no matter what I do with it

carmine flower
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idk what it does just think its a cool name

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maybe makes them chilled and weak at the same time

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anyway continue

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im thinking about women

bold knot
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wahmen

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I think the only good use I got outta shield special was uh

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Think I had doom on it

waxen wing
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M E G A E R A ‘ S T H I G H S

bold knot
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then I'd ping someone and they'd take 200 damage

waxen wing
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Alright um...

bold knot
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was neat\

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and I'm wondering which aspect would make it more usefull

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that aoe is cool I guess

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man doom damage is awesome

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don't like ares as a character but damn if he's not good at killing things

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is that general consensus

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wait that doesn't count as a curse?

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aight

waxen wing
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God of War cross over Kratos kills Ares

daring imp
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oh I got the b a g

waxen wing
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Bag?

bold knot
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the b a g?

daring imp
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imma skip the remaining few styx chambers

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bc rail does not do well and I dont wanna waste health

bold knot
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oh man the update finished

waxen wing
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Oh that bag lol

bold knot
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aight guys

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I'm goin' in

daring imp
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big bag

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for doge

waxen wing
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Rail’s not so bad just get infinite shot Daedalus upgrade

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So you don’t have to reload

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Ever lol

daring imp
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I have that its good

bold knot
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woah nice

daring imp
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I was just getting rekt by poison

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I doubt I'll beat Hades

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only done so once before

bold knot
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oh

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hades got animation now

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cool

knotty raft
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hades ex better make him revive the titans to fight zag

junior field
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I'm guessing extreme Hades will have his skull waves cover the whole screen

lament flame
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Bowling with Boiling Blood (Zag as only bowling pin)

shy socket
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He'll probably yeet several of them in a radius with a single cast

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Either focus him down and play hoop jumper, or take them out and let him wail at you

fickle yoke
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aaaaand we back

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hello there

lament flame
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hi

alpine cipher
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Finally got guan yu aspect

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It’s busted but

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Like deservedly so

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I hope all the final aspects are that strong

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And game changing

fickle yoke
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yeah after u gain Kalashikov aspect of the rail

alpine cipher
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Exactly

atomic forge
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I guess this would be too out of canon.

amber canyon
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I mean, every aspect has to have a legendary wielder

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And I imagine a name for the fourth one

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So as far as the gun is concerned, that means itll probably not be a gun in the average sense

fickle yoke
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@amber canyon volfredthink what's wrong with Kalashnikov?

pallid crag
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name one legendary gunman that wielded it

fickle yoke
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is it not enough legendary for you?

amber canyon
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Its not a name in the sense that the Frost Fair Blade is

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Its more of a descriptor

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Like Pilum

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Or Scimitar

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If theyre gonna make all the fourth aspects follow the spears example

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Itll be weapons like the Dubán, Excalibur and so on

fickle yoke
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failbag i still dont think it's a good idea - go away from greek mythology

amber canyon
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I like it

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Frees up design space

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And gives some flair

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Anyway, as far as the gun is concerned

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I imagine itll be a hindu weapon

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Most non-bow projectile weapons of myth are in hindu myth

fickle yoke
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failbag how does Delta chamber works?

amber canyon
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Well I didnt pick it when I had the opportunity, but I imagine exactly as it says on the tin

fickle yoke
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u want to know what it says?

amber canyon
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Infinite ammo and it fires in 3-round bursts

fickle yoke
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this

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what is 3round burs?

amber canyon
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Again, what it says on the tin

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You click once

fickle yoke
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aaand how does it work on Hestia

amber canyon
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It fires 3 bullets in rapid succession

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That I do not know

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But my guess is the Hestia bullet ignores the three round burst thing

fickle yoke
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it like pew pew pew....pew pew pew?

amber canyon
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Kinda

fickle yoke
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failbag nah explosive is better

amber canyon
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Instead of a Ra-Ta-Ta-Ta-Ta-Ta-Ta its a RaTaTa - RaTaTa

fickle yoke
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it's just semiautomatic gun

pallid crag
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nah, semi-auto is not always burst

fickle yoke
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?

solar cove
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about explosive fire - now that it slows instead of interrupting - does that mean its stronger against armored or uninterruptable enemies(like bosses) but worse against the rest or cant feel any difference?

amber canyon
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Nah Semi-auto means you fire as fast as you click

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Burst fire means you fire multiple shots per click, but there is delay between the bursts

cobalt summit
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Hey, how do I aim Demeter's cast's beam?

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KB+M

quiet burrow
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can confirm delta chamber and hestia aspect do not interact. your first shot is a single empowered shot, then if you keep firing it's burst shots

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the only hammer upgrade that interacts with hestia is piercing fire

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@cobalt summit it should drop where you are and aim at your mouse cursor

cobalt summit
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I had Demeter's cast with Aspect of Hera and they dropped at the monster's location and aimed wildly at nothing for my whole run

fickle yoke
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@quiet burrow explosive interacts too

cobalt summit
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It seems to work as you describe when used without Aspect of Hera, haha

quiet burrow
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i thought they removed explosive

lyric pine
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they added it back i think

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doesnt stagger anymore, but it does slow

quiet burrow
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oh okay then yeah htat should also interact

fickle yoke
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@cobalt summit afaik Hera works bad with Demeter casrt

quiet burrow
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i would recommend not taking demeter with hera aspect

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you want to take something that lodges in the enemy anyways to take advantage of the faster drop rate. avoid ares, dio, and demeter casts

fickle yoke
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@quiet burrow Dio great with Hera

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so much easier to aim and fire

quiet burrow
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of those three it's probably the best but i don't like that it nullifies most of the benefit of taking hera

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my most recent hera run i had aphrodite, that was pretty baller

fickle yoke
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Also Demeter boon for more dmg when out of Bstones work cool with Hera

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when u load all stones in one shot it already works

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as i heard

quiet burrow
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hammers were triple shot and ricochet
relevant boons included pressure points, chill around you on cast, bonus damage when out of stones, greater recall

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yeah that definitely does

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triple + ricochet is really good since the side shots will bounce off of walls

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oh i also had the second projectile on cast, and a +1 bloodstone from chaos

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so i'd load in 4 stones then fire, it'd hit and enemy and then explode into 8 shotgun blasts for like 300 on the mains and 140 on the secondary, like 7% chance to crit for triple damage, and 400 damage + 8 chills to anything close to me

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didn't have the best of luck on my artemis boons though, really could have used fully loaded and exit wounds

fickle yoke
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@quiet burrow fully loaded not Artemis now

quiet burrow
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wait really

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who is it then

fickle yoke
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afaik

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Demeter....maybe

quiet burrow
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no that's not right

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demeter's legendary is shattering when chilled

fickle yoke
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also quick reload is for Hermes

quiet burrow
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quick reload moved to hermes but artemis still has fully loaded i think

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unless they changed that after the initial patch (which htey did with several things so maybe)

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my first run with guan yu the attack and special didn't deal extra damage

fickle yoke
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failbag mb i wrong

potent cove
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Umm, I don't remember the context but, in one of Demeter's lines she says something like "I don't plan on leaving this mountain top" presumably referring to Olympus, since Dionysus uses the exact same term when he makes note of the fact you already have one of her boons,

But... Demeter doesn't live on Olympus... She stays on the surface world most of the time because her daughter is the result of, what I will generously refer to as: "a fling" with Zeus,
So Demeter really doesn't want to be around him or the eternally vengeful Hera, unless there's official business between the big 12 to be dealt with.

I know this takes place after she started spurning the world and neglecting her nature Goddess duties etc. but I'm fairly sure her living situation and relationship with the King and Queen of the Gods didn't change after that...
So, am I overlooking something or did SSG just do a goof?

lunar kiln
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maybe it's just another mountaintop

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also i suggest you keep talking to demeter

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you'll find the answers to most of your questions there

lyric pine
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oh my god lernie the bone hydra

fickle yoke
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@lyric pine it's 5th summon?

pallid crag
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no

fickle yoke
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and what is it

ebon rose
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Has anyone seen what those new Chaos interactions are? Chaos is supposed to comment on things you do in their realm, but I've not triggered it yet.

fickle yoke
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not yet...

remote meadow
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me neither :(

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I thought they might comment if I destroyed pots, but that didn't do anything

ebon rose
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Yeah, that's what I thought too. There's nothing else to do in that realm though

fickle yoke
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did he react new aspect?

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Demeter?

ebon rose
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He probably does, but that's not what the patch mentions. The patch mentions things you can -do- in his realm that he reacts to.

arctic quartz
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whats the last enemy for wanton ransacking

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10/11 feels sad

fickle yoke
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@arctic quartz give me a screen

arctic quartz
fickle yoke
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big satyr

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in styx

arctic quartz
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actually i dont think i wanna complete it anymore

lunar kiln
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chaos reacts if you use your fated authority to change room rewards in chaos

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thats it

runic terrace
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oh! i will have to try that

fickle yoke
runic terrace
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i hope they think its funny....look at this son of hades thinking he can change fate over here

ebon rose
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That's it? Well it's something I suppose. I guess that technically does fulfill "Primordial Chaos now responds to certain interactions in their realm"

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But it's more like "a certain interaction"

fickle yoke
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@runic terrace Fates LET him change i guess

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or fates knows he will change it....

runic terrace
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🤔 then you get into the questions of "if fate knew youd change fate did you really change fate" lol

fickle yoke
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yup that what i'm about

pallid crag
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oh no, not this determinism thing again

lunar kiln
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you changed fate in a way the fates wouldve predicted

arctic quartz
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which makes it fate

lunar kiln
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when everything changes, nothing changes

fickle yoke
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so U didnt change anything

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everything is changed by you

ebon rose
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Isn't it more like the Fates have decided how things will be, and generally people will follow those designs? So it's more like the Fates are giving Zagreus some small amount of power to choose among their available designs.

Chaos, on the other hand, literally states that he can help Zagreus act independently of what the Fates have designed.

fickle yoke
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u r not a changer u r tool of changing

potent cove
#

@lunar kiln -Yeah, I've been equipping her Keepsake at the beginning of all my runs to try and test out all her boons and get as much info out of her as possible, and she's certainly answered a few of my questions, but I have quite a few more,

I'm really not sure how to feel about the fact that neither she nor Zag know about the other...
That penny has to drop at some point and it would strike me as very odd indeed if she didn't react to Zag's... Existence... With anything other than uncontrollable psychotic rage...
So if that revelation happens and she just keeps giving him boons and talking to him casually, like all the other Gods, it's gonna feel pretty strange,
and if they don't make the connection at all, that would probably be stranger,
So I'm not sure where they're heading with her

I was really hoping she'd contact Zag, already knowing he's Persephone's son and aiding him out of sheer contempt for Hades in a "You steal my child, I steal yours" kind of way

lunar kiln
#

keep going

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...i guess

potent cove
#

SSG's complete and utter refusal to give us any significant information about Persephone has been bugging me for ages but adding Demeter without giving us the option to ask her or Hades about their respective interpretations of Persephone's kidnapping, is intolerably frustrating to me

karmic vine
#

you can fish in chaos' realm, but I failed the cast so I don't know if he reacts to that at all

fickle yoke
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@karmic vine you casn????

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rly?

karmic vine
#

it popped up once so far

fickle yoke
#

imagine what fish is there

lunar kiln
#

god imagine

karmic vine
#

'I caught a boot'

lunar kiln
#

"i caught [eldritch abomination]"

fickle yoke
#

stress +100

karmic vine
#

'not sure it's safe to give chef that'

fickle yoke
#

@ebon rose mb this is what u r looking for

cobalt summit
#

Does anyone have a dps calculator for this game made up?

ebon rose
#

@fickle yoke Are you going to... post something, or...

fickle yoke
#

@ebon rose did u miss discussing about fishing in Chaos realm

ebon rose
#

You @'d me, so I assumed you had something to follow up the comment with. Your message didn't exactly say "scroll up".

fickle yoke
#

failbag sorry

lyric pine
#

@fickle yoke eventually zag tries to give the hydra a nickname. The game legit changed the name of the hydra that run to "Lernie the Bone Hydra"

fickle yoke
#

u see it in fight?

cloud lion
#

just come to say you can legit have hermes heroic boons by upgrade rarity.

fickle yoke
#

@cloud lion u always could

cloud lion
#

don't remember who asked, just bumped into one +49% walk speed boon

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yeah

fickle yoke
#

30% dodge

cloud lion
#

yup

fickle yoke
#

thx Euridice

cloud lion
#

demeter works too

fickle yoke
#

i do not meet her often

cloud lion
#

Meeting her all the time

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so much so that I can't even get her duo due to not meeting others enough

lyric pine
#

having demeter's m1 and support fire with infinite ammo = death by a billion cuts

worked surprisingly well against hades

tribal marsh
#

M1?

lyric pine
#

basic attack is m1 by default on mouse and keyboard

cobalt summit
#

Hey, I'm about to win the game for the first time!! I haven't been hit once in the boss room and I have a bonkers kit I want to make a quick copy of my save to play with

#

Can someone point me to the tool someone might use to do this?

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I am excited this run is nuts

lyric pine
#

i mean, the whole point is to win or die

fickle yoke
#

@cobalt summit failbag it's not right

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shadeohboy be a man

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kill him

cobalt summit
#

ahh, fine! I've got the adamant rail special kitted OUT

fickle yoke
#

@glass tusk there are 5 Charcters

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u can give them nectar

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and finish some quest or condition

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and can have Companions from them

glass tusk
#

what are the 5?

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just gimme names

fickle yoke
#

Meg Tomatos Skelly Sisyphus and Dusa

glass tusk
#

okay ty

fickle yoke
#

np

tired aspen
#

Not sure how I feel bout the spear yet, the winter form makes it so slow

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or the new form

fickle yoke
#

@tired aspen quick spin

tired aspen
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have and use it, but the normal attack i mean.

lyric pine
#

the basic attack is slower, but a lot stronger

tired aspen
#

just feels so clunky

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with an attack that slow

lyric pine
#

thats just because you're used to the spear being fast

tired aspen
#

all the weapons

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being fairly fast

fickle yoke
#

@tired aspen also u may use new upgrade for triple dash

tired aspen
#

how so?

fickle yoke
#

3 fast attack

lyric pine
#

the dash attack hits 3 times but your dash is shorter

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interesting upgrade

tired aspen
#

huh, have to test that when I get it

sour creek
#

Charged Skewer seems to be way to strong with Guan Yu aspect new special

fading yarrow
#

@lyric pine it leads to some insane damage if you can get the Artemis boon that increases dash attack damage, and also a chaos boon that increase the same. Your dash attack counts as a basic attack and is modified by boons that increase attack damage. It's a great upgrade.

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@sour creek Have you tried beating the game with 45 heat active

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It's not strong enough

sour creek
#

Throw distance looks bugged to always be maxed

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Lmao

fading yarrow
#

Don't laugh I am being serious

tired aspen
#

I do like the new poison sash the "hangover" effect

fading yarrow
#

go read my thoughts in the feedback

tired aspen
#

feels more usable

primal creek
#

imo the game should be balanced towards 10-20 heat being difficult but streakable

tired aspen
#

huh, ice wine, seems line an intresting combo

primal creek
#

If 45 heat is nearly impossible...

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Yeah, duh

sour creek
#

Fair point, but my issue is that the interaction seems bugged

fading yarrow
#

oh

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@primal creek it's not just nearly impossible, from what I have seen it's actually impossible

sour creek
#

Saved a screenshot, no idea where/how to post lol

fickle yoke
#

@sour creek use imgur

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and link it

sour creek
#

Oh you right

fickle yoke
#

or other services

primal creek
#

You can also just drop the image directly onto discord

fickle yoke
#

@primal creek not this afaik

primal creek
#

is it not a jpg or png?

fading yarrow
#

they have direct image uploading disabled

primal creek
#

Ahhhh. Right.

tired aspen
#

the ice wine removes the visual effect of the "festive fog on that cast, is it still there for fog related gifts?"

sour creek
#

This is a loooong room, flies down the whole thing

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So far as I can tell, anyway

#

Can take another with Zags back all the way against the wall, shows the same flight path

fresh prism
#

hey guys, question

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is there any real point in having over 5 ambrosia given that only 5 characters so far have a real gameplay application for it?

fickle yoke
#

@fresh prism y

fresh prism
#

as such, any other ambrosias can really be traded for something else until a new update gives them other purposes?

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cool

fickle yoke
#

Ambrosia required for upgrading Companions

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and for longer relationship improvement

fresh prism
#

yupyup

fickle yoke
#

aaaaand for romance options

fresh prism
#

I believe only skelly, meg, dusa, thanatos and.... a fifth forgotten character accept ambrosia right now?

fickle yoke
#

yes now we have 5th

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oh

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u forgot Sisyphus

fresh prism
#

yeah there we go

fickle yoke
#

Boulder husband

fresh prism
#

kk then

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ty!

atomic forge
#

i mean you also need ambrosia to upgrade the legendary keepsakes and if you continue giving it to them for more dialogue

fickle yoke
#

@atomic forge didnt i say the same?

atomic forge
#

sorry i somehow skiped it while scroling

fresh prism
#

legendary keepsakes = summons iirc, right?

fickle yoke
#

@fresh prism yes Companions Legendary keepsakes or Summons

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as u wish

fresh prism
#

legendary cupcakes 😂

fickle yoke
#

sry

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my english sometimes doing weird things

carmine flower
#

i had no more death defies so he slapped me on the balls and i lost

atomic forge
#

Hades Phase 2 is when he goes Super Saiyan.

sour creek
#

"You think you're the only one that can defy death, boy?"

fickle yoke
#

he just have Skelly trinket

sour creek
#

I want his Skelly trinket then lol

atomic forge
#

He's got the Helm of Darkness, doesn't he? He's got a few Mirror of Night tricks, too.

sour creek
#

It gives a little bit more health than mine

carmine flower
#

zag when he defies death

fickle yoke
#

@sour creek he just played longer and has better mirror

sour creek
#

Gotta steal his mirror

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Wait thats why we cant enter his room

fickle yoke
#

squirtnya yup

carmine flower
#

god. im trying to get the third defy death but for some reason darkness rooms aren't spawning

sour creek
#

They're afraid well smash his mirror

fickle yoke
#

who They

carmine flower
#

also no matter how hard i try i STILL lose a death defy to bone hydra

sour creek
#

The devs lol

carmine flower
#

like i could live with losing one to theseus

fickle yoke
#

@carmine flower try shield

carmine flower
#

because that would leave me with one for dad

fickle yoke
#

or rail

sour creek
#

Hydra>Theseus

carmine flower
#

hydra slaps me on the butt cheeks

fickle yoke
#

ex Hydra> ex Theseus

carmine flower
#

i die

sour creek
#

I hate Theseus way more, but the Hydra's harder

carmine flower
#

Theseus is a lil stinker

sour creek
#

Way better of a fight post-update tho

karmic vine
#

i wish I could always swap out to bow on hydra since the special clears all his spit projectiles

carmine flower
#

idc about him or his furry lover

#

i want to beat him up

sour creek
#

I want Gauntlets solely to punch his stupid smug face.

fickle yoke
#

wow wow

carmine flower
#

god. man. a gautlets weapon would be AWESOME

simple ether
#

Yeah lol

carmine flower
#

punching things would be neat

fickle yoke
#

box

sour creek
#

Gimme a Herakles aspect so I can lift and throw enemies

fickle yoke
#

MAGIK GAUNTLET FOR MAGIK PAVARS

sour creek
#

OR and Atlas Aspect

#

An*

young vine
#

Is there anything worthwhile to do with Darkness once I have all the Mirror stuff I care about?

carmine flower
#

just keep spending it

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or exchange it

fickle yoke
#

@young vine sometimes - broker can make offerings

#

but it's 165k so i do not think it's a way

vivid knoll
#

What is the mirror stuff you care about? U need everything imo

fickle yoke
#

@vivid knoll mb he plays hell mode

vivid knoll
#

What's the differnece with darknis?

young vine
#

Yeah, with the limits from Pact, I don't really care about upgrading Boon rarity.

vivid knoll
#

I see

fickle yoke
#

@vivid knoll in hellmode it's always short budget things on

#

so only 2500 for u

young vine
#

And there are often things I'm more interested in exchanging keys for than saving up for some mirror stuff I won't really touch.

#

I'd love to see more Broker offerings for Darkness or Contractor options to make Darkness a little more appealing in a run. Always such a bummer when it's the only option forward and there aren't any rerolls on hand.

carmine flower
#

some random idea had about Apollo: ||ive been thinking about the olympians not yet added and i always thought apollo would be some sort of healing dude, but with how anti healing the game is, I'm not thinking zagreus might get poison affects! apollo is the god of music, the sun and healing but he was also the god of disease, and looking at the final level, thats what my heart is telling me. Unless they do something with the idea of music stunning people||

fickle yoke
#

@carmine flower Demeter should be the last

carmine flower
#

aw, really?

#

bummer

fickle yoke
#

y(

carmine flower
#

i wanted to see the twink

lament flame
#

We all wanted

fickle yoke
#

i wanted Haephestus

carmine flower
#

we could have had heph innstead of daedalus but ya know. rather have secret man

young vine
#

Demeter also has a line that not all of the Olympians agree with those that are helping Z, so there could be a possibility that others might show up in some form as NPCs/Foes.
But as far as we know we aren't getting any more gods that give Boons for the rest of Early Access.

carmine flower
#

bummer....

lapis smelt
#

Correction. We know we won’t get any more Gods.

#

We might get more duos or something though.

carmine flower
#

if they dont add anymore boon gods maybe they'll add him in a eurydice and orpheus plot thread

#

actually. hm. it makes sense that apollo wouldn't wanna peep into the under world

#

he's the god of the sun

#

why would he want to look into the underworld

#

bot scares me every time

lapis smelt
#

I think the Doylist reason why they won’t add more is because they only add boon Gods that are directly related to the story they’re trying to tell.

carmine flower
#

im too much of a potty mouth im sorry bot

#

Also I want Hera to show up mostly because mean women tickle me fancy

lament flame
#

Yes!

carmine flower
#

i know she probably wont

#

bc she wouldnt give

#

TWO flying fricks about zag

#

or the underworld

#

or hades

#

but i just

#

wanna see her

lament flame
#

Or at least Zeus might say something about her or her aspect

young vine
#

I think it would be really fun if there were some cameos where some of the others popped in during a Boon convo, like occasionally happens when Duos are available. Maybe like a Pact option that gave a chance for interference of some sort? That'd be way too much work for some throwaway characters, but it would be fun

stoic glacier
#

Did they really call the Demeter/Dionysus Due "Ice Wine", instead of "Wine Cooler"?

lament flame
#

Yes

carmine flower
#

hopefully in the future, if they're not adding anymore base boon gods there can be dlc

#

i wouldnt mind paying extra for more olympians

urban chasm
#

dlc to kiss dusa

carmine flower
#

dlc to get grandma to give me candy

young vine
#

Dating Sim/Visual Novel DLC adds pleeaase

carmine flower
#

zgod

#

id love that

#

let me romance aphrodite

young vine
#

SGG lemme just pick dialogue options with your characters for a whole game

carmine flower
#

sgg just make a dating sim

#

god. ares kinda hot tho.

#

like im very female leaning but ares

#

😳

young vine
#

I am curious how other relationships will progress, once all of the Legendary Keepsake slots are taken up.

fickle yoke
#

@young vine what is ur bet?

#

i think it may be Patrocles and Achiles

young vine
#

I'm totally fine if it's just more dialogue, one-shot scenes, but I was thinking that maybe it'll involve the normal keepsakes in some way...like adding an additional rank/effect at max relationship rank

carmine flower
#

GOD...I WANT PATROCLUS AND ACHILLES TO MAKE UP SO BAD... : (

#

THEYRE BOYFRIENDS...

sharp axle
#

Ice wine is an actual thing

carmine flower
#

(I read the song of achilles and I still haven't recovered)

fickle yoke
#

@carmine flower also Achiles had a wife...

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but she is not mentioned anywhere

lament flame
#

Yeah but his relationship with Patroclus much deeper and interesting~~ sorry not sorry~~

young vine
#

Oh, the final Legendary Keepsake? I also think it'll be from their quest, but I would love it was sourced from helping Orpheus move on and giving Eurydice better living conditions. Her quest should totally end with a promotion to House Chef, rather than some nameless spirit

carmine flower
#

that and also achilles's mariage with his wife was largely like

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arranged

#

id be lessed invested in an arranged marriage

fickle yoke
#

@lament flame at least she gave him children

carmine flower
#

and more so my lover who i went to war with-

lament flame
#

@fickle yoke And?

fickle yoke
#

@lament flame and he just gives him troubles

lament flame
#

You just a meanie

carmine flower
#

patroclus didnt give achilles troubles. patroclus tried to save his country because of achilles's pride

#

i stan him for it

fickle yoke
#

so u have nothing to say?

lament flame
#

E X A C T LY

fickle yoke
#

@carmine flower his country???

#

i just remind they started war

#

and they come to enemy territory

#

they aqre attackers

#

not defenders

carmine flower
#

they were trying to get helen back who was kidnapped

#

the war was instigated

fickle yoke
#

kidnaped?

#

Goddess promised her

#

to Paris

carmine flower
#

yeah but helen's husband didn't agree to that

#

and neither did elen

lament flame
#

Woman is not a thing you know

carmine flower
#

so being taken by ones will is usually considered kidnapped

fickle yoke
#

God do not care about mortal's opinion

#

in that cases

carmine flower
#

well it's STILL kidnapping godly stuff aside

#

they stole helen, so a war was declared, and they went to go get her

#

did achilles and co attack first? yeah. but they didnt START the war

#

they were responding to the kidnapping of the queen

#

but achilles, during that war, decided he wanted a group apology, which forced patroclus to be like. Hey I'm Achilles. And then he was mruderized.

fickle yoke
#

also who said Helena was didnt agree?

carmine flower
#

Well she was forced by Aphrodite to love paris for one

#

And idk about you but altering the way someone feels is. BIG consent no no.

sharp axle
#

Well, Helen was sort of compelled by the gods to love Paris

carmine flower
#

smh i cant believe aphrodite roofied helen

fickle yoke
#

as u said Jas - godly stuff aside

#

she come with him by her own will

#

and it's not kidnapping

sharp axle
#

The best part is the war was started even earlier than that, when Eris got mad that she wasn’t invited to a party, so she threw an apple of discord into the party, which ended up causing Helen to be abducted

carmine flower
#

eh. you're right, even if it was important to the reasonings behind her leaving, you still can't just

#

TAKE royalty

#

Free will aside

#

Helen was a queen promised to her king

#

And yeah old times sucked but she's technically considered her husbands property

#

So it still started the war

fickle yoke
#

shadeeyeroll so who we to blame?

carmine flower
#

The gods lol?

fickle yoke
#

"gods stuff aside"

#

Helen?

#

Paris?

carmine flower
#

No it's just a factual statement

#

The gods are to blame

#

Specifically Eris

fickle yoke
#

Gods are to blame but as always only mortals suffer

carmine flower
#

Yeah

#

Anyway

sharp axle
#

The real lesson behind the war, is that if you are offered a choice between battle power (Athena), political power (Hera), and love (Aphrodite), you absolutely are not supposed to pick love

fickle yoke
#

Eris just wasnot invited

sharp axle
#

Because picking love is what caused Aphrodite to compel Helen

fickle yoke
#

@sharp axle best lesson can give us Zeus

carmine flower
#

This whole discussion started because we were talking about Briseus (a woman Achilles mentions only once) and Patroclus (the man Achilles specifically asked to be buried with)

lament flame
#

In addition most of relationships in Greek myth are complicated (actually kinda messed up) and in Patroclus and Achilles case it's not so bad actually. Complicated - yes, not ideal - yes

fickle yoke
#

If u have to pick of something - let pick someone else

carmine flower
#

I'm gonna setle on Patroclus is Achilles's true love and thats on that

fickle yoke
#

cus...reasons?

carmine flower
#

like no homo bro...but when we die i want our ashes to be put into the same urn and mixed 😳

#

i want us to spend our deaths together bro 😳 no homo

fickle yoke
lament flame
#

No "no homo" only yes homo

carmine flower
#

correct

fickle yoke
#

failbag i still dont understand why is his wife missing here

#

i actually understand

#

but i dont apeciate

lament flame
#

Anyway Ares and Aphrodite said gay rights

carmine flower
#

because briseis isn't important to achilles's story, over all

lament flame
#

Sad but true

fickle yoke
#

what is briseis

carmine flower
#

like yeah he had a wife. she existed. but i know achilles for the war, his myths, his parentage and his interactions with patroclus

#

.....

#

lmao

#

thats his

#

wifes name buddy

lament flame
#

Lmao

fickle yoke
#

shadeeyeroll is it?

carmine flower
#

but yeah

#

thats his wifes name

fickle yoke
#

isn't it his slave?

carmine flower
#

yeah

sharp axle
#

Um, Achilles wife was actually really important to the Illad’s plot though

fickle yoke
#

and his wife is Deidamia

#

afaik

carmine flower
#

he refers to briseis as his wife and the one he loves. Deidamia is literally an after thought to him and shows up like, once

#

before when you were arguing your point i thought you were talking about bresies which made sense to me

#

but if you were talking about deidamia he like

#

doesnt love her

sharp axle
#

Well, his slave that was suppose to be his wife, except Patroclus died before he could arrange for her to be the legal wife

carmine flower
#

at ALL my man

#

like, in the actual myths, they mention deidamia ONCE

sharp axle
#

But Achellis referred to her as his wife, regardless

carmine flower
#

yeah, he loved breseis and patroclus

fickle yoke
#

anyway both of them are not ap[eares here

carmine flower
#

deidamia sure did get pregnant though. she sure did.

grand anchor
#

i ship achilles and patroclus 100%

carmine flower
#

me too!

lament flame
#

Same

carmine flower
#

I like to think Achilles, Breseis and Patroclus were a triad

fickle yoke
#

failbag and i like to think Patrocles died of Achiles

carmine flower
#

died of?

#

oh died because of?

#

yeah he super did

fickle yoke
#

yes

#

my english not as good as i want

carmine flower
#

i still think they were in love though

fickle yoke
#

sry

carmine flower
#

its okay!

#

ive been following the conversation very well so far

fickle yoke
#

i cant argue they were

carmine flower
#

my brain just farted for a second

#

i can definitely argue they were, due to the fact that greece back then was VERY homoerotic

#

and their bond went over all other bonds as far as i could tell

#

again achilles asked to be BURIED with the dude

#

not to be buried with breseis

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or deidamia

#

or his father, if you wanna say its a familiar thing

#

thats a very romantic gesture imo

#

i wouldnt ask to be buried with my friends or family

#

i WOULD ask to be buried with the girl i love tho

fickle yoke
carmine flower
#

i would say id like mention of breseis

#

since she was important imo

fickle yoke
#

our Our habits and realities can radically differ from the ancient Greek

carmine flower
#

i didnt understand that one

fickle yoke
#

esp our modern realities....

#

dont mind me

#

i'm just old sick grump

carmine flower
#

its w/e man

fickle yoke
#

what is we

#

west east?

carmine flower
#

its an abbreviation for whatever

#

w/e = whatever

fickle yoke
#

ok

carmine flower
#

its whatever man is a saying for 'its okay man'

fickle yoke
#

i could say a lot

#

but

#

it changes nothing

carmine flower
#

you're right! im probably not going to change my opinion

fickle yoke
#

and i dont wanna be banned or something

carmine flower
#

you wont be banned for your opinion my dude!

lament flame
#

Me neither

fickle yoke
#

@carmine flower i cant be sure about this

carmine flower
#

if you'd prefer achilles have a straight romance over patroclus thats chill, there's a lot of historians who agree with you

grand anchor
#

gay all the way

fickle yoke
#

@carmine flower i wont argue he had some bonds

carmine flower
#

i jus like that theyre actually going into what patroclus meant to achilles

fickle yoke
#

with Patocles

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i just dont like

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nvm

carmine flower
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nah its okay

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well i mean i dont think its okay, but again, youre not being hateful

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which is all people can ask for i guess lmao

lament flame
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That what's really matter here

solar depot
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oh no did i arrive too late to talk about patrochilles shadegrief

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let! zag! help them make up!

mighty wraith
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Patrochilles?

solar depot
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hahaha portmanteau ship name

mighty wraith
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Where my boy hercule at

fickle yoke
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@mighty wraith he is on Olimp afaik

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after he died Zeus get him there

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and it's relly good

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cus Zag had no chance

mighty wraith
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Dont demi gods also go to elysium?

fickle yoke
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He is not just some demigod

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He is the greates hero

mighty wraith
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Father is god, mother is human

lament flame
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As far I remember his soul are in the Elysium but also he has eternal life on Olympus

runic terrace
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i think the funniest outcome is if the only sight of heracles in the gane is a poster in zags room 😂

mighty wraith
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Sounds pretty demi god to me

fickle yoke
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@mighty wraith he is demigod yes

solar depot
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jfklds he's just like zag's celebrity crush

mighty wraith
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Arent they like the same age?

fickle yoke
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but he was ascended to Olimp for his deeds

carmine flower
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didnt hercules get made into a god

lament flame
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I want Heracles poster now

fickle yoke
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and Hera forgived him

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and he exist there

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for eternity

carmine flower
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yeah hercules became a god

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so he cant be in elysium

fickle yoke
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here you are

lament flame
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NO NOT HIM

fickle yoke
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squirtnya oh i know he is too good yes?

lament flame
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DELETE THIS

solar depot
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meg: why does this wall scroll have a kiss imprint, zagreus

fickle yoke
carmine flower
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zagreus, shaking: stop asking me questions i thought we were here to make out

lament flame
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Also I checked the wikipedia now and there is written that Hercules ghost is in the Underworld

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But he also became a god

junior field
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even gods may die

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just ask the titans

atomic forge
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the hymn to zagreus is godlike. did they add it in this patch? shadefear

junior field
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it was available before but the trigger was bugged, so it wasn't showing up for some people

atomic forge
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oh it triggered for me this patch...i like how they make fun and nod to this version of the myth

fickle yoke
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yes good joke

paper pawn
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oh the bust of the poet is the narrator lol

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if you interact with the bust the narrator says "the vastly irritating prince gets no response"

pearl plank
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by my interpretation, achilles and patroclus don't need to make up, just to be reunited

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orpheus and eurydice are the ones that could stand to do some up-making

runic terrace
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THE BUST OF THE POET IS WHHHHAAAAAATTT??? blurryeyes brb i need to farm gems 😂

paper pawn
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i can now pester the narrator

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yes.

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also you can fish in chaos's realm now

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i caught a projelly from it

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i wonder what it gives

lament flame
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WHAT

lunar kiln
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uh oh

lament flame
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brb I am going to fish in this amazing game

lunar kiln
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the secret's up

junior field
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really? Haven't gotten any pools in Chaos yet

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also, you get a fishing pool after each tunnel in Styx

paper pawn
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i dunno i just got one after jumping in there a bunch since the update so i guess it's a low chance

junior field
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and fish caught in Styx always gives lots of gems

lunar kiln
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it's a low chance for a reason

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you'll understand what i mean

lament flame
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...

signal palm
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projelly unlocks the true ending of the game squirtdevious

junior field
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I wonder if they'll add a pool to Hades map

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there are 2 spots with water

signal palm
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and you just get regular fish, but they're useless for the ghost chef

junior field
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brilliant!

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maybe it'll be super rare, and the chef would reward you with a...diamond

lament flame
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ooooo

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Worth it

fickle yoke
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i still wonder what are chaotic fishes

lunar kiln
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they're fish

junior field
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or are they bouldy

signal palm
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maybe they're the shades of fish, so sgg really just confirmed that fish have souls

split temple
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i didn't realize how to fish so i finally only caught my first one after like 6 hours

atomic forge
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doesnt achilles say every living being goes to the underworld?

split temple
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fish hell fish hell

atomic forge
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like theres a conversation between him and zag where zag's like oh im upset about killing like vermin/satyrs cause theyre alive and achilles says they all go down there

signal palm
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oh yeah that happened

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rats have souls confirmed

atomic forge
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and zag comments about how nice it is that humans know where they go since animals etc dont

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rat hell rat hell

paper pawn
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woah projelly gives titan blood?

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@graceful wharf if you get a fish spawn in chaos realm, you get fish that give you boss drops, dunno about diamonds/ambrosias but titan blood at least?

crude gazelle
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what exactly is zag the god of? i know that before there I heard a voiceline from hades at the start of a run, that he can't think of what zag would be a god of

fickle yoke
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@crude gazelle by Alecto he is god of Trash

crude gazelle
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makes sense

lament flame
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Achilles in codex entry about Thanatos suggests that Zag is God of Blood

fickle yoke
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squirtnya there are lot of version

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God of reborn

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God of blood

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Good of talking back to Hades

runic terrace
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life/blood is gonna likely be it, bc of the codex.....my theory till then was his domain was connections/friendships

fickle yoke
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god of empathy?

runic terrace
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oooh, maybe!

junior field
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blood connects all though

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and he does swim in the blood pool regularly

wintry belfry
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"Chill-affected foes shatter at 10% hp, inflicting Chill nearby"

Does shatter mean insta-kill or just explosion with 50 damage?

minor oyster
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i just got friend-zoned by dusa

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brb uninstalling

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0/10

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worst game sg ever made

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😭

fickle yoke
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dusa dont u understand

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she is too good and pure

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for someone like u

wintry belfry
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LOL

midnight sinew
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Anyone know the official name for Bone Hydra now?

junior field
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it says in its name

fickle yoke
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@midnight sinew Lernie as i heard

midnight sinew
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Has it always said Lernie?