#h1-story-discussion

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hazy flame
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and delete/recover the annoying statues

sinful peak
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D:

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Skelly loves you

hasty basin
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you should have to pay the diamonds back if you remove the statues

atomic forge
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Demeter potential antagonist(?) ablobthinkingeyes

fast idol
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nah

atomic forge
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Cool dialogue when beginning a fight with hades and you're using demeter blessings tho

signal palm
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the real antagonist is mom i bet :^)

fast idol
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Yeah, I wonder if those consequences are related to Hades

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or spoken in general

atomic forge
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Demeter has involvement with the extended winter apparently so ablobthinkingeyes

fast idol
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Oh yeah its because she misses Persephone

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And since she's been gone for a big while now Demeter grew cold and lonesome

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Hades is afraid that Zag might tell her he is Persephone's son
But appearantly that would bring dire consequences

red kayak
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Demeter being in winter aspect is a sign Persephone's location is a mystery to even her

fast idol
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What if Persephone was reborn as Zagreus
that would explain why they never even saw each other

atomic forge
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She's in his eye all along lmao

tepid granite
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When you lose over half of your health trying to fish in lava šŸ™„

fast idol
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honestly that is currently kinda the only explanation I have, because Hades wouldn't even lie in that case

atomic forge
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The dream

stiff geyser
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I had that on one of my first runs with guan yu spear it was so fun

fast idol
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Oh

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Hestia and Hera won't give boons because they have squabbles with the other gods

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lmao

atomic forge
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upgrade Lounge
talk to Meg about it
she says that soon it'll be my portrait hanging around
you can commission a portrait of yourself

dull shadow
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has anyone figured out the fishing cues?

atomic forge
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Yeah

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You wait for the lure to go under water, like in every other fishing minigame. Animal crossing, for example

dull shadow
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huh

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alright thanks

atomic forge
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Yeah, the first time I messed it up because the catch thing came up

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Just watch the little ball in the water

dull shadow
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what's the reward for the fish?

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I assume darkness

hybrid basalt
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Gemstones

atomic forge
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Yeah, gemstones. Finally a way to get some decent gemstones

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5 per room is so awful

amber canyon
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I like how Demeter is essentially an Ice god now

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But has absolutely no chill

dense jay
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@static widget @dense jay Did you have skellies boon and die with it?
Ah, possibly. I don't remember, but yeah, sorry for not checking that!

fervent quest
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you can get nectar from fishes as well, i guess it depends on what you catch

static widget
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Because that's the line for reviving with skelly

dawn lily
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Demeter created a neverending winter when Persephone went missing/was being held hostage by Hades. In the original myth at least, the name of this update and the current state of Demeter kinda makes me wonder even more if Persephone really is still in the underworld somewhere.

amber canyon
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She isnt

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Hades and Thanatos have confirmed that

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She is somewhere above ground, but not with the Olympians

pliant hearth
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Can Hades damage himself under charm effect from Aphrodite call? I just almost two-shotted second phase

static widget
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Aphrodite's max charged call does pretty insane damage

pliant hearth
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Maybe that's the case...

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I just din't use it very often. THX for answer!

celest cosmos
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Any list of Demeter's Duos yet? Just got one by having Poseidon's tidal shot

loud tiger
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There's a Dem cast + Artemis and a Dio cast + Dem

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so there's 3/4 known now

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(maybe 4 idk)

vapid fox
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Most important part of update: If you go up to the one shade who has a Zag banner, he'll greet them.

light ivy
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Man, Zagreus is such a good boy

vapid fox
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"Hello supportive shade!~"

fervent quest
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What does the "petals, ever lasting" decoration upgrade do? To what succeeding is it referring?

light ivy
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It was really cute seeing him talk to both Meg and Than separately to make sure they're okay gilmanpride

karmic fulcrum
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@pliant hearth iirc charmed Hades just laughs and doesn't attack, he doesn't damage himself.

pliant hearth
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Got it)

static widget
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@fervent quest I think it may be a reference to Arthas in warcraft 3 at the end of the Reign of Chaos wherein he succeeds his father

fervent quest
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@static widget but that never actually happens in hades, at least not yet? i dont have 500 gems yet to try it out tho so im not sure where it comes into play

brazen pendant
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What does cold actually do

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Just slow stuff?

wheat lark
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yes, but it stacks

static widget
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It hasn't happened in Hades yet to my knowledge. But the petals are the same kind as are seen in the start of the animation in WC3 @fervent quest

brazen pendant
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OH

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also I feel like laser ice cast could be a contender for top cast spot

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That stuff can shred

past cape
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so

wheat lark
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What is the best way to let the developers know of my strong dislike for the new weapon aspect. the feedback channel here? f10 in game? spam the normal discussion channels? šŸ˜›

past cape
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anyone figured out how to play on lyra?

lunar kiln
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practice i guess

azure island
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So, Demeter is in the game now.

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And it's winter.

lunar kiln
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i love christmas

azure island
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Am I misremembering the myth or does that mean Persephone is in Hades?

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As in, the location.

nocturne rose
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Does anybody know how long you have to use the harp?

red kayak
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laser cast is fantastic, but I learned the hard way its not great in all situations. Upgraded minotaur won't stand still long enough to take much from it

nocturne rose
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Lyre not harp

fallow bronze
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@azure island that’s how the myth goes, but it could also mean persephone is missing/hasnt been found by demeter

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winter just means demeters grief for her missing daughter

azure island
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Oh, that's interesting.

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Thank you.

fallow bronze
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c:

celest cosmos
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@wheat lark The Feedback channel

urban chasm
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anyone figure out how to complete dusa's mini-quest yet?

celest cosmos
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I got to a second conversation about it where she got mad at me for buying stuff in the area, haven't seen her since. I'm hoping I don't have to save up another 1.5k to complete it for the last high-price item lol

hidden lion
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Who do you have to pair with demeter to get the new duos?

fast idol
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Poseidon, Artemis, Dionysus and uh

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someone else

opal wing
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poseidon/arte/dio/?

fast idol
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i'd be assuming Zeus but honeslty no idea

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what does Demeter/Dio do?

opal wing
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2:54 PM] WarRock: Only Duo I got so far was Demeter/Dio, makes your cast explode twice, one Dio, then one ice vortex

fast idol
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oh dang

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I had a weird bug with her Call

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Where her call would widen and when I used a bladerift the bladerift would be the same size as the storm for a second

celest cosmos
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Oh that sounds good

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The duo, not the bug lol

fast idol
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maybe it's leftover of old code where it was intended to be a duo? or they just the same kind of uh..baseline to do the speen

atomic forge
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Zeus/Dio - Cold Fusion - Jolted doesn't get expired by enemy attacking , Jolted Duration : 10 seconds

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needs Zeus Jolted boon and Demeter general boon (attack/special/cast/call)

urban chasm
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all these people talking bout casts and mechanics and duos and I’m just here to try and find out if you can kiss dusa

celest cosmos
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Trust me, I'm very interested in that as well

atomic forge
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right now I enjoy the most fun spin attack spear Guan Yu

celest cosmos
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I can not stand that aspect, I'm mad I spent blood on it lol

atomic forge
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I love it, even though I hate spin attack

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It's like playing with bow, except it actually hurts

celest cosmos
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Except every boss 1 shots you lol

nocturne rose
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It's great

urban chasm
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I do think it would be a lot better if it had some sort of like

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Yoh can’t get one shot protection

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But god it’s fun

atomic forge
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ok, once I turned off the forced overtime +50%, I guess I'm not getting hit that much

celest cosmos
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@hazy plume check the pinned posts

shrewd badger
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holy hell, guan yu is lame

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and they also changed my favorite spear, zagreus

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:(

atomic forge
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they could make it less "risky at start"

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I find it decent with ability to deal 500 multiple crits

shrewd badger
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the idea is good, but spin is really slow, even with hermes

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special is kinda slow as well

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so you have to go mid-range... without health

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idk, i didn't like it very much

hardy plume
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the slower attack just feels bad

shrewd badger
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and now, spear have 2 spin builds... meh

hardy plume
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you can do weird stuff with drift dash though

shrewd badger
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demeter is so fun to play, tho

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i need to try her with rail

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and the boon that explodes when stacked 10 times

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seems insane

atomic forge
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alright...

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done the Guan Yu aspect run lol

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honestly Sisyphus gets mvp there lol

tame bronze
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I had the Athena Call when I did a really low heat run with the Guan Yu Aspect, New Daedalus Hammer for Dash Attack, twas fun.

grave matrix
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Do i need to do something to achive Guan Yu Aspect beacause it doesnt appear as all aspects

tame bronze
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Need to chat with Achilles

analog crag
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SO

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whoops

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so

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this "war"that the furies and thanatos are on the surface for

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i bet its the peloponnesian

young vine
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How do you figure?

warm elm
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i think the war is over the eternal winter

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that i think the game is implying is happening

tame bronze
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Demeter has been throwing some shade at the mortals it seems.

odd siren
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guys i might be late to this but the employee of the month board in the lounge changed!

tame bronze
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Yeah I noticed it switched to Meg for me after one run, then back to Than.

analog crag
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than is best boi

odd siren
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i love him BUT meg's picture is super cute

storm cipher
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me, returning to hades after a whole month of inactivity: WOOHOO MAJOR UPDATE!!!!

also me, realizing i'd left just in the middle of my 16 šŸ”„ run to uncover the second statue and have forgotten the commands: mistakes were made

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if i survive i want to see what's after hades i'm SO curious

analog crag
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i like his pic without his hood is all

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anyway hypnos deserves recognition as employee of the month. and dusa

odd siren
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personally feel like hypnos needs a hug. he's such a ray of sunshine and for WHAT. nothing. that's what

tame bronze
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A friend of mine who plays Hades absolutely loves Hypnos and while I am happy with Than, she wants Hypnos for a romance option.

odd siren
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now /that/ could be interesting

analog crag
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hypnos ticks all my my bi boxes

odd siren
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(though i'm in your boat, than's everything to me ;-;)

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every time he just -- expels flowers. that's my favorite thing. he's so sunshiney. hypnos is so good

analog crag
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hypnos is a mood eternal

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I'd love if his little flower effect used poppies instead of normal flowers

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since poppies represent dreamlike states and sleep

odd siren
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😮

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oh gross that big emoji

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but seriously !!! that'd be fantastic

analog crag
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i love his outfit

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his old outfit was kinda weird lookin

odd siren
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i love the sleep mask pushed up into his hair

analog crag
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but his current santa/twink combo is cute

lunar kiln
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You described hypnos' fashion in a way no one else could

analog crag
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lmao the highest praise hades has ever given to me: "achilles taught you reasonably well"

odd siren
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yeah i can't even think of something to follow that up with

analog crag
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it's cause it's truie

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he dresses festively

jovial fossil
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wew
frost fair blade heals off of hitting pots with the spin

odd siren
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really !

jovial fossil
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yup

stiff geyser
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Roadmap says we get the new weapon in the next update Yoo I'm hype

analog crag
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i hope it's the sickle of kronos

stiff geyser
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I want a hammer

tepid granite
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does the fully upgraded new spear still reduce your max hp to 20?

amber canyon
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Damn, Demeter is angry

analog crag
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oh or maybe it's just demeter's cornucopia as a big bugger off hammer

stiff geyser
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40 I think?

tepid granite
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lol

amber canyon
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One of her voicelines when using Call was something along the lines of "Become a wasteland devoid of life"

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Anyway, just to reiterate, sixth weapon is Demeters

lunar kiln
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A wasteland void of life

amber canyon
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What exactly it is, we dont know

jovial fossil
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cornucopia shotgun

amber canyon
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But itll be the weapon Demeter used when fighting the Titans alongside Zeus, Hera, Hestia, Poseidon and Hades

shrewd arrow
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Also Im pretty sure its eternal winter BECAUSE persephone is gone

jovial fossil
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I was right about dusa
i was right about demeter being icy
i will be right about the cornucopia blunderbuss

shrewd arrow
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The war might have some ties to this though

stiff geyser
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oh hey

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They fixed the art for demeter trinket

shrewd arrow
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yea

amber canyon
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The war might be because of eternal winter

shrewd arrow
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Probably is

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But I suspect Persephone being gone is due to all of this

amber canyon
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But yes, its eternal winter because Persephone went somewhere where even Demeter doesnt know

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We knew she wasnt planning to go to Olympos

analog crag
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tfw persephone leaves her abusive husband and doesnt even think to call

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although in the original myths, hades is actually better to her than demeter

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"you cannot cheat death" hades you know i'd never be unfaithful to than

stiff geyser
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so dem cast is the first I've found that doesn't work with hera bow

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which makes me sad

analog crag
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wait... i just realised

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the guan yu spear

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the existence of this aspect implies other pantheons

stiff geyser
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I assumed the beam would go in the direction the arrow traveled, but it goes north from the point it hit

amber canyon
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Not exactly

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Its Guan Yu as the historical figure

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Not as the deified figure

analog crag
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i mean, the other aspects are all demigods and gods... except for achilles i think

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but he's a deminymph

tame ember
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anyone found some nice new duo boons already?

jovial fossil
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I think blade rifts got a stealth buff

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they seem larger than before

tame mortar
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Man, the new heal-on-attack hammer boon is ROUGH. They had to balance it somehow, because the original was extremely OP, but healing isn't worth anything when you just get 1-shot by some of the more-damaging enemies (Mino and Hades especially.) That run did not go well, heh

atomic forge
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I got it to work with Flurry blade. Lots of quick strikes.

celest cosmos
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@tame ember The 4 new Duos are Dem/Zeus, Dem/Artemis, Dem/Dio, Dem/Poseidon, all cast related

orchid panther
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hey does anyone know how the lyre prophecy conditions work?

celest cosmos
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After 4 runs of strumming it a couple of times before a run I got a dialogue with Orpheus where he taught me some basics, it didn't end though so I assume there's more lessons

jovial fossil
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k hunting blades is still crazy good

fast swan
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That's some beautiful polly rep there

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And really excited to see who the other aspects are, presuming they're each a different mythology

tame ember
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bow cast and dem cast seems bad

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too innacurate

flint marten
amber canyon
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Oh

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Thats what it was about

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It didnt click for me

lapis smelt
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It’s less of that and Meg knowing Dusa is crushing hard on Zag when he and Meg are in a relationship

flint marten
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Yeah I've just noticed after I've read the whole thing

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I guess we'll see an argue between meg and thanatos soon?

orchid panther
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how does one fish successfully

flint marten
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wait until the little ball dissapears

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and press E

urban chasm
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or, here me out: we could just date all of them at the same time

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why must i be forced to only have one girlfriend

orchid panther
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oh the ball disappears?

amber canyon
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I mean

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You can date Than and Meg at the same time

urban chasm
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yes, and i'm very happy about it

jovial fossil
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there's a little white flash and the bobber dips under the water for a moment

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that's when you press the button

orchid panther
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ok

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it's pretty near the beginning, yes?

jovial fossil
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it's pretty soon after you start, yes

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if you've been sitting there for 10 minutes it's already happened

orchid panther
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yeah no I saw the flash the first time but didn't put two and two together

past cape
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so

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what new duo you already find?

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i found one with zeus

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and it`s great, lol

dull shadow
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found the Artemis/demeter duo

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kinda like hunting blades

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except lasers

past cape
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@dull shadow what do you need to take and what u got?

dull shadow
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demeter cast

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and tier 1 Artemis

past cape
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with zeus you need jolted on zeus + tier 1 demeter
boon - jolted work on time, not on one attack

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so for the 10 seconds enemy will take damage for every attack

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full jolted damage

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and you even don`t need to apply chill for this to work

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lel

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@dull shadow so the lasers are following enemies?

dull shadow
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yep

past cape
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meh

dull shadow
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launch the cast and the lasers track targets

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noticeable faster than just cast by default

jovial fossil
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how does the demeter/zeus boon work on snakestones

dull shadow
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I've heard there's a demeter/dionysos duo

jovial fossil
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do they just get instantly exploded when they fire the laser or is it just one attack?

dull shadow
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but haven't seen it

nova steppe
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found Dio/Demeter duo last run

past cape
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@jovial fossil tbh i don`t know, everything died too fast

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cause i had special from rail with ares on it

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and with 5 bombs

celest cosmos
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The Poseidon/Dem one you need Poseidon's cast, it turns your cast into a slow icicle that fires little whirlwinds that deal damage and chill

tame bronze
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Dio and Dem's dialogue is fun

dull shadow
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@nova steppe was it any good?

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and what did you need?

past cape
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@nova steppe wow, tell us more

nova steppe
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it's called Ice Wine, after you cast, it turns the cast into a little ice vortex

past cape
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whait

nova steppe
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i had Dio Cast, not sure if it's necessary

celest cosmos
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It is

past cape
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what the difference with the poseidon?

nova steppe
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the duo text didn't specifically say festive fog, so wasn't sure

celest cosmos
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What do you mean? It completely changes your cast lol

dull shadow
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seems like demeter duos require the other god's casts

nova steppe
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still got the tipsy shot damage

past cape
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for zeus - it don't

celest cosmos
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Oh. well I explained it up there

dull shadow
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so one exception then

nova steppe
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but then it turned into an ice vortex and continued to do damage

celest cosmos
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The Poseidon/Dem one you need Poseidon's cast, it turns your cast into a slow icicle that fires little whirlwinds that deal damage and chill

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It looked like each cast was firing about 6-8 whirlwinds as it traveled

past cape
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@celest cosmos it's just sounds to similar with dio

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from your and @nova steppe explanations

dull shadow
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did dio travel?

celest cosmos
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The Poseidon one are whirlwinds, not vortexes, they spin in place, they're small

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But with 3 casts it was a lot of them lol

nova steppe
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when i had the duo, the Dio Cast was exactly the same launching it, had the cloud for a brief second and still did the damage, then turned into a stationary ice vortex that continued to do damage and chill

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i don't know if dio cast was necessary

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all the text said something to the effect of "after a brief delay your cast bursts and does damage" something like that and it was 50% of cast damage

hallow oasis
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I stil wonder if the note was forged

dull shadow
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pretty sure the dio cast is mandatory then

hallow oasis
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It was awful convenient and odd that it mentioned Cerberus but not Zagreus

nova steppe
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the way it was worded it, it seemed like it would have worked on any cast

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but maybe not

dull shadow
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demeter cast is very different

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and duo's cast is the only one that kinda sits there

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dio*

nova steppe
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yeah maybe

hallow oasis
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"DOesn't cold like this kill mortals? That's a lot more work for you." HOLY COW IS DEMETER PURPOSELY FREEZING THE WORLD TO PUT MORE OF A LOAD ON HADES? THAT'S VICIOUS

violet nova
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Dio cast seems like the best all around tbh

hallow oasis
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AND STONE COLD. LIKE DEMETER

nova steppe
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since there's no poison involved or anything, guess it makes sense that it had to be the cast

violet nova
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I just wish it counted as poison, even if the damage ticks were minimal

nova steppe
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so i would assume that you can't have both dio/demeter and dio/zeus then

dull shadow
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why not?

nova steppe
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but would be interesting to confirm

dull shadow
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seems like an awesome opportunity

nova steppe
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because it's no longer festive fog?

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i dunno

dull shadow
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maybe?

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I think this is the first time duo boons overlap

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correct me if I'm wrong

lunar kiln
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In this manner yeah

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Curse of Longing + Merciful End also exists but its tricky

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I guess you should try getting both

dull shadow
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ahh right

lunar kiln
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Would make for a fun experiment

lapis smelt
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What’s with that Demeter icon. Looks creepy

granite locust
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Dusa Summon dusa

tame bronze
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I just friendzoned Meg, I don't know how to feel.

lapis smelt
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Soon I will be able to give Dusa Ambrosia
and start Zag on his harem route

granite locust
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Dusa is life so don't worry

odd siren
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never have i had a harder choice in a dating sim than with meg tbh

tame bronze
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I mean technically you could date both Than and Meg but I kind of favored Than and Zag together. I did really want to be on better terms with Meg though

lapis smelt
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Also TIL that is you use Bouldy in Hades a second time he says ā€œThat blasted boulder AGAIN?ā€

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His first reaction was funny too. Seeing the stoic and cold hades basically go WTF is funny

urban chasm
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i'm almost at the point where i can date than

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v excited

lapis smelt
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Naisu

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I’ve gotten the first Ambrosia heart on Meg and Than I need more though and I’m already at heat 8-9 on all my weapon bounties

tame bronze
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I think my highest heat for bounties is six heat with the bow. I kind of hop from weapon to weapon

lapis smelt
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Same. I’m thinking about putting God Mode on temporarily tbh. Getting to hades consistently and only getting darkness for 6+ heat bounties is annoying >_>

frozen flint
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does hypnos say anything if you kill yourself with the new rail hammer upgrade?

lapis smelt
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Wait what.

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There’s self damage in the game now

frozen flint
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yeah the new rail upgrade makes your special able to hurt you

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I have it right now and would test it but I'm on a 13 streak lol

ebon rose
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So, what allows me to talk to Thanatos?

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I can't talk to him or gift him anything after winning his trial

frozen flint
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he shows up at the house

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over by achilles

ebon rose
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He used to sometimes stand there after his trial, but after the update he just immediately leaves after depositing his goods

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But I guess I'll just have to wait for Old House RNG to favor me

hallow oasis
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AW, Hermes mentioning Thanatos almost smiled when mentioning Zagreus. Be still my heart!!

lapis smelt
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Is this post relationship status?

stiff geyser
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Just to let people know the hammer for charged special on bow is not good if you are using chiron aspect

cold dock
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anyone know how to get the new aspect?

stiff geyser
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have to talk to achilles

cold dock
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so just keep doing runs and talk to achilles?

stiff geyser
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yep

ebon rose
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So, what will I end up doing with Darkness once I've maxed everything out?

cobalt summit
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Oh hey

dull shadow
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I mean, the fated authority takes a lot of darkness

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especially towards the later ranks

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currently on the sixth one and it costs 20k

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but I assume you would just be stockpiling it afterwards

cobalt summit
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I finished my first run with the rail and I have learned about weapon aspects. Is the rail the only one I can upgrade at the moment? And I guess I will not find any more titan blood until I've beat Lord Hades at least once?

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My question is really whether I should have found out about weapon aspects at all yet -- did maybe something go funny with my patch which unlocked this early by mistake? I thought it was a beat-the-game expansion

fickle yoke
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@cobalt summit u can all

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u can upgrade all weapon aspect

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for now all have 3 only spear has 4th

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for the blood

cobalt summit
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It was unlocked by my having completed the rail run, right?

fickle yoke
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there are 4 ways to get the blood

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yes

cobalt summit
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oh, besides beating tartarus?

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that's the only way I've got blood so far

fickle yoke
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1st - u lvlup heat and make more difficult runs for same boss reward

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2nd - Fated list but it has only limited reward - 10+10+2 blood

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3rd - wretched broker sometimes can give you some deals

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like blood for 15 keys

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and 4th - last Charon shop

cobalt summit
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for like 2500 gold

fickle yoke
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no

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1500 blood

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1000 diamond

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aaaaaand for the aspects

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some aspects are good after unlocking

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like Hera

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but most of them should be max lvled to be effective

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like Chiron, Poseidon, Chaos

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and u cant get blood back

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so choose wisely

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all 1st aspects requires 5 blood for max lvl

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all 2nd are 1 2 3 4 5

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15 for all

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all 3rd are 2 2 3 4 5

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16 for all

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4th aspect is 3 3 3 3 3 iirc

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same 15 i guess

cobalt summit
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Cool, this seems a very good balance for spending this scarce resource

fickle yoke
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any questions?

dull shadow
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you can also convert Ambrosia to titan blood via the vendor in the lounge

fickle yoke
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but you better not

cobalt summit
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Is Ambrosia even scarcer?

dull shadow
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not really

cobalt summit
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But no, no questions, that is a thorough description. I am equipped to make choices thank you!!

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Hera sounds p good, I am excited to play with more options now

fickle yoke
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@cobalt summit try Dio cast for hera

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and dont forget you can load all stones

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and one Demeter boon suits well to hera too

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but i like Chiron)

stiff geyser
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Chiron is my favorite weapon aspect

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you get art special and just its beautiful

fickle yoke
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@stiff geyser i prefer Ares or Dio special with Chiron

stiff geyser
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I only like ares special if I can get the doom stack buff

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which doesn't always show up

fickle yoke
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yes

stiff geyser
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dio is pretty good though

fickle yoke
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weak on attack and Dio or ares on special

stiff geyser
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I'm running a lot of dem special chiron which has been enjoyable

fickle yoke
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both Ares and Dio have great duo with Aphro for Chiron

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but ares need 2 more boons for longer doom and stacking doom

atomic forge
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So does anyone know who the 5th person I can do a favor for so I can give them ambrosia is? Since I'm trying to decide which companion I want to grind for.

fickle yoke
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@atomic forge dusa

atomic forge
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alright thanks man, do you know it's effect?

regal dirge
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is there a voiceline in the game where Demeter mentions that she's Zagreus's granny?

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Just curious

fickle yoke
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not yet@atomic forge

atomic forge
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right, thanks dude

fickle yoke
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@regal dirge looks like she doesnt know...

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well i met her only once and i cant be sure

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@atomic forge np

cobalt summit
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I am using the demeter cast with hera and it's not working at all

fickle yoke
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i made bond with her

cobalt summit
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the crystals are aiming the wrong directions!

fickle yoke
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@cobalt summit y it's just bad

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i heard about it

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try Aphro

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or Dio

cobalt summit
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I like zeus chain lightning cast

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I'll try these others. I don't think I've done the aphro cast at all yet

atomic forge
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I still like Poseidon's and Are's casts the best

fickle yoke
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i dont rly had a chance to tri new version of it

atomic forge
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Solid damage combined with invincibility

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especially since if you're lucky Poseidon's can go above 500 damage per hit

fickle yoke
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Ares cast is good only with some extra boons

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and Poseidon not good for bosses

atomic forge
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Idk, I like Poseidon's for bosses tbh, simply cause of the dps you can get with it if you get it early and manage to upgrade it

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though it does shine better in encounters for crowd control or taking down tanky enemy's hp

stiff geyser
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dem cast might be my favorite cast so far but I'm sad that it doesn't work well with hera aspect

fickle yoke
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mb use it with Achiles

paper pawn
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i'm having trouble comprehending the idea behind a guandao which looks like it's meant for slashing/sweeping attacks but zagreus just stabs forward with it so this aspect is kind of a let down?

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it's also really slow

fickle yoke
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and its all about spear(

cobalt summit
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Demeter cast is great against hydra!!

ebon rose
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The aspect certainly is weird. It'd make more sense if the primary attack was replaced with a sweeping arc. The charge could even be faster, but weaker... but I think that can be covered through the hammer

fickle yoke
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@echo marsh here

echo marsh
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ok

fickle yoke
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there are 5 characters for now

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u can gift them Nectar

echo marsh
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ok

fickle yoke
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and lvlup relationship with them

echo marsh
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ok

paper pawn
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yeah the charge isn't what bothers me, I'm having a really hard time getting over the fact that zagreus by default pokes with the guandao--basically my expectations were pretty wildly different for this aspect so I'm gonna need to make peace with this decision

fickle yoke
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and after u max it and make some quest or conditions - u will be able to gift Ambrosia

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after that they will gift u Summon/Companion/Legendary Keepsake

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whatever u call it

stiff geyser
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omg I just got Lernie the bone hydra

fickle yoke
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this 5 characters are Meg Tomatos Skelly Sisiphus and in this updtae they add Dusa

stiff geyser
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I love him

graceful wharf
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@paper pawn you know what time is it, that's right time to grind that new decoration bouldy

ebon rose
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Oh wow, Hades doing work for once in his life

nocturne rose
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Has anybody figured out how to complete the lyre quest? Grinding out new content

fickle yoke
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@nocturne rose mb some good teacher can help

nocturne rose
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Yeah Orpheus but do I just talk to him? Or keep paying it, or play it after every run?

fickle yoke
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idk i just bought it too

nocturne rose
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Ok

fickle yoke
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and go try some run

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and speak after

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with Orpheus

nocturne rose
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Jus played it for like 15 straight and then talked to orpheus

paper pawn
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@graceful wharf curse you

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i'm finishing this random quest to bring the guandao to the surface and I'm not enjoying this aspect at all so can't wait for it to be over

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but yes back to grinding soon

graceful wharf
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i'm just overwhelmed as you are, did they just add like a gazillion new decorations

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also yeah new weapon is my top priority rn

paper pawn
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yeah there's so many decorations, quick and dirty glance looks around 10k+ of gems to grind

graceful wharf
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glad that there are multiple cheap ones instead of a few big ones, getting 100-200 gems in a run doesn't seem insignificant anymore

paper pawn
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yeah

raven heath
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so is dusas relationship quest supposed to progress after you fix the lounge because i did that bfore i knew about it and now it wont progress

paper pawn
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oh but the statue of heracles one is bugged it seems, i had an examine sparkle on it but interacted and got nothing

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so maybe hold off on buying that

graceful wharf
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oh yeah how exactly do you unlock the new weapon, something about achilles quest?

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i see thanks for the head up

paper pawn
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yeah you need to talk to achilles who will tell you to talk to the spear

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so do a few runs until a new conversation pops up on his head

graceful wharf
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got it chief

paper pawn
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also this hard nerf on support fire makes me weep

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patroclus's trinket was due for a nerf, so that's not surprising, but best girl qq

graceful wharf
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did they nerf chaos shield too

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still pick artemis anyway because she's precious

paper pawn
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oh no she's still top notch because of crit hit, but support fire cannot be abused as much anymore

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also hades spear is named gigaros

graceful wharf
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hades is a fan of sailor moon?

paper pawn
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plus demeter's buffs are nutty and basically negate an entire pact of punishment category

ebon rose
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Just mad Poseidon angry for the first time. That effect on the enemies is hilarious, they just zoom around

paper pawn
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so that's awesome

graceful wharf
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ah the slow effect right

raven heath
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so anybody got a clue why i cant progress dusas quest despite already doing the thing it asked?

outer copper
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My favorite is Zeus Aspect for the shield with Dio or Ares buffing the special.

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Any change to that combo with the update?

graceful wharf
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oh dang demeter's cast is awesome

paper pawn
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yeah and she has a utility boon that increases the rarity of her other boons every 3 encounters

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and sorry I don't use zeus very often since he's my least favorite buffer, so hopefully they haven't nerfed it

golden socket
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it picks one or more random other boons and upgrades them

paper pawn
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@graceful wharf I have installed a disco ball in the lounge

golden socket
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doesn't need to be her own

paper pawn
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this is the best thing ever

outer copper
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Zeus Aspect, the shield that you toss out and it just keeps striking

paper pawn
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oh sweet then it's even better than I thought

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oh, hate shield, many sorries, hopefully a shield main can check

graceful wharf
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Papa Hades is gonna be so angery when Zag throws a party in the house

astral breach
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Check the steam screenshots. Demeter Cast + Artemis Support Cast @graceful wharf

lofty fossil
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So you can romance thanatos?

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cause it sure seems like it

fickle yoke
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@lofty fossil Tomatos and Meg

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and both

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not sure about Dusa

lofty fossil
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Nothing more greek than another dude wanting to bang another dude

outer copper
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I'll just have to read the patch notes for changes to boons for specials

lofty fossil
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OMG if you could romance dusa

outer copper
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She's just a head

graceful wharf
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@astral breach aww i just missed artemis

ebon rose
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Oh my god I just this interaction with Dionysus

reef birch
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that's the best part ( ͔° ĶœŹ– ͔°)

lofty fossil
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hahaha

fickle yoke
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She is head of most pure and kindest creature in all House

ebon rose
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Where he suggests telling Orpheus a "tall tale", and references the idea that he and Zag are connected

fickle yoke
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@ebon rose is it a song no?

ebon rose
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It might be, I haven't ended my run yet.

reef birch
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That might be the unlock condition for it

ebon rose
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Oh, nice. I've just been loving all of the Orpheus interactions, where Zag keeps telling him about his adventures. In one, he even describes how ||he burned his father's hands as a kid, which is why Hades wears those things on his arms.|| And I had another where Dusa ||asks where he got his accent from,|| and the exchange seemingly dismisses the ||"Zag was born in the mortal realm"|| theory.

stiff geyser
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can the final boss room have a fishing spot

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cause I think that would be a pretty great reward

paper pawn
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has anyone been able to fish in asphodel? I want my lavatuna

golden socket
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yeah

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I accidentally walked over the lava

paper pawn
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speak of the devil, time to fish where the hydra's head was

ripe hamlet
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can someone confirm with specifics what dusa's quest is?

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like, the things i need to purchase?

lament flame
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I think you just need to buy everything for launge?

atomic forge
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Even the 1500 gemstone one?

paper pawn
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ah bless, demeter's slow is basically the counter to all of elysium I am in love with stern grandma now

lament flame
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Maybe so

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Demeter is really fun so far, her dash has interesting effects as her special and attack boons. And I am looking forward to see her side of the story and interactions with Zag

desert rain
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does anyone know what does the duo boons ice wine and blizzard shot do?

drifting citrus
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demeter is scary but i love everything about her

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art, boons, characterization are A+ top notch

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plus the implication that she would cause the end of the world if the truth about persephone was told to her

stiff geyser
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ice wine makes the crystal go boom and blizzard shot I believe is the art boon which makes them track faster and do more damage

worldly beacon
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what all gods does Demeter have duos with? i know art

ebon rose
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What do you mean? I assumed the surface is cold specifically because Demeter knows her daughter is still missing

stiff geyser
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dio and art are the only ones I know

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I think she has one more but I don't know who its with

lapis smelt
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Poseidon and Demeter have a boon. It’s pretty bad

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It makes Poseidon cast travel slow and create shards of ice as it travels. But the hitbox and travel speed are way too slow to be useful.

drifting citrus
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@ebon rose had a convo with hades saying that zag is ignorant to the truth and that he should keep that way around demeter, lest there be a greater consequence than ā€œa foul stretch of weatherā€

nocturne rose
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How do you get duo with Demeter and dio?

paper pawn
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I'm surprised there's not a minor prophecy to catch all the different types of fish

shy nimbus
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plus the implication that she would cause the end of the world if the truth about persephone was told to her
@drifting citrus she already soing it now. You know, "cold like this kill mortals, does that mean more work for you?" to Hades

tacit ivy
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Just got a max relationship event with Meg, don't know how i never imagined her being into whips

quasi swan
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I just got max relationship with Than and I loooove the new spear!

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And how Asphodel’s first room looks so FANCY

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And that hades is finally doing some of that paperwork! I’d be a little self-conscious if a giant mosaic of myself was behind me, but I’m also not a god

tacit ivy
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I wanna get good with Guan Yu Aspect but ive got two losses with it already when i had like a 15+ winstreak beforehand

dense fox
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I just had a thought about Guan Yu aspect. Does this mean that other places and pantheons exist? I never really gavce it much thought before, but Guan Yu sure ain't Greek

chrome geyser
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he was also a real person

knotty raft
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What's next

dreamy narwhal
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I know that the later Roman pantheonic tradition actually admitted the existence and validity of OTHER pantheons. Roman soldiers actually worshiped the gods of countries they invaded, performing observances learned from prisoners.

knotty raft
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A Susano aspect

dreamy narwhal
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I don't think the Greek tribes were AS liberal in their cosmological understanding, but I still think that the inclusion of other contemporaneous gods is a cool idea.

ocean fulcrum
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Hey, I have a question. Does gifting a character ambrosia always mean romancing them? I just accidentally romanced Thanatos lol

graceful wharf
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Nope just some specific characters

dreamy narwhal
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Ambrosia? Or nectar?

nova steppe
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just confirmed that the combination of Dio/Dem and Dio/Zeus duos does have lightning strikes

opal wing
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Has anyone else gotten the last song yet? It's very cute

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The events leading up to it, I mean

shy nimbus
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The last song? You meant Good Riddance?

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Also, how can I get Demeter dou boons now? Dio, Art, Poseidon and...?

paper pawn
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i love demeter's voice

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especially the tone of her voice when using her ults

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grandma can have all the nectar

trail plinth
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sorry, anyone got the lyre quest done? i'm very curious how to find itttt

ocean fulcrum
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Random trigger with talking to Orpheus I think

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That's how I unlocked it

trail plinth
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ah yes, i do have the quest, i mean how to do it šŸ™ˆ

tame bronze
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I have a strong desire to combine Ares and Demeter boons, in theory it's to make the target so slow they can hardly leave the blade rifts....even if they wanted to.

supple dagger
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Idea: replace Hades with just a horde of Satyrs

stiff geyser
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What is the pos dem duo?

stiff geyser
#

are fish a random price when turned in?

atomic forge
paper pawn
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it's not a party until you bring out the lasers

tame bronze
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What duo boon is that and I love it

stiff geyser
#

That should just be dem cast

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with a ton of casts on

tame bronze
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It is

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Got a closer look at it.

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I find it funny how I friendzoned Meg yet I still get dialogue as if I am dating the both of them.

paper pawn
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same

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was a bit jarring, but oh well

fair light
#

Hey if some of those events feel out of place please press F10 and report it as a bug. In some cases it may be due to an oversight on our part. The character interactions should evolve in a believable way.

paper pawn
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Oh I totally about F10, thanks!

graceful wharf
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oh i see the problem you mentioned with guan yu aspect now Slug, it's so slow, windup time for the 3rd hit is so long and still deals the same amount of damage

paper pawn
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yeah and as someone who doesn't rely on spear's spin attack the guan yu offers me nothing

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since its gimmick is the healing on the spin attack

signal palm
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i don't think the point is to offer you something you already do

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I think the point is to attempt to change how you play

paper pawn
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well, I don't use that facet of the spear so it's not for me

signal palm
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fair

graceful wharf
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guess it's still a spear so they don't want to change the attack to slash type but it's more suitable if the final attack to be a slash

paper pawn
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yeah i was surprised it wasn't defaulting to slashing

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thought i'd get to see a whole new moveset

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lol

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guess that'd be too much

tame bronze
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I seem to be in the minority of those who use the spin attack frequently.

paper pawn
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i've never liked it, but if it works for you that's more than I can manage

graceful wharf
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but it's nice to have such a drastic change with the aspect, makes me excited to see the rest

paper pawn
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i'm iffy on breaking the theme of greek myths i guess

tame bronze
#

I wonder what the bow one will be....

paper pawn
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but if that's how it is it'd be interesting to see other gods/religions

cloud lion
#

is it just me or a lotta boons got basic dmg increase nerfed?

graceful wharf
#

i enjoy war of the three kingdoms so i can quite enjoy this new addition too

paper pawn
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i feel a nerf incoming for the demeter cast

tame bronze
#

I'm trying to think what famous heroes from other lore could be used for aspects

paper pawn
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that thing melts even without caster augment buffs

tame bronze
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Someone did say Excalibur could be used for the sword which could be a possibility.

graceful wharf
#

Wukong

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i like demeter's dash too, finally something good beside athena's dash

paper pawn
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honestly i like demeter's whole kit a lot

tame bronze
#

The only legendary bowman I think of off the top of my head even though he's from folklore is Robin Hood.

paper pawn
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i go almost the full demeter set with a bit of artemis crit on the side for extra spice but atm demeter's working out best

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especially when i can beef up output with flurry jab AND demeter cast

graceful wharf
#

same, chill effect, cast and dash all feel good to use

paper pawn
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not even caster build and hades just melts like a popsicle in summer

graceful wharf
#

i think Robin Hood isn't much of a legendary though, while guan yu is considered the god of war

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the only use of the fish is to trade right?

paper pawn
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yes, but fishing is now my new hobby

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time to use marcoos as bait

graceful wharf
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oh pls i'm an exquisite bait, i worth at least 10k gems

paper pawn
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all you get me is a sad knucklehead

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a scrawny one too

dull shadow
#

so I can confirm that both scintillating feast (dio/Zeus) and ice wine (demeter /dio) stack effects

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just had a crazy run with them

graceful wharf
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preposterous, i say you don't know how to fish

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interesting, gonna try to find demeter/dio duo boon next

dull shadow
#

I would suggest taking Zeus too if you can

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his demeter duo is pretty nice if you get the Zeus/dio duo

paper pawn
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it's because you're unseasoned and tasteless so the fish don't want you

graceful wharf
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yeah scintillating feast is one of my favorite duo boon

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i won't stand for this slander, probably because only the rarest and the most ferocious fishes dare to eat me

paper pawn
#

man all of demeter's greater call lines are so nice, i could listen to grandma yell at me all day

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i use her greater call as often as possible to hear her damn everything around me

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that frosty voice so nice

graceful wharf
#

oh does her greater call has a unique dialogue to hades

paper pawn
#

yeah something about how "that witch" is making the weather even worse

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classic hatred of your mother-in-law

graceful wharf
#

poor old grumpy Hades

paper pawn
#

some new angeryness between zag and hades while fighting too i think

neon sequoia
#

"how much does she know"
"good keep it that way"
son in law trying to hide wrongdoings

paper pawn
#

or at least some i've never heard before

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son in law in some big trouble if grandma finds out you're her grandson i reckon

graceful wharf
#

i'm surprised she doesn't know that, or maybe she's trying to hide it

tame bronze
#

That's what I thought

#

But at the sametime Hades kept pretty hush hush about Zag, to the Olympians they probably still think Nyx is Zag's mother.

paper pawn
#

there's a conversation later where she comments on your "birth" from nyx and how you're lucky you'll never experience the wonders and horrors of maternity, in essence

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so she doesn't seem to realize persephone had a child

tame bronze
#

It'll be interesting to see that bomb drop.

paper pawn
#

someone's getting a walloping

lapis smelt
#

It’s highly implied that if she finds out we’re going to basically get Nuclear winter

static crown
#

welp meg just gave zag a spanking in his room shadefear guess he's the M to her S

paper pawn
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s-surely grandma would be happy to see zag

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...no?

restive elk
#

Probably no.

lapis smelt
#

No

tame bronze
#

Romanced Meg, Rim?

static crown
#

yep

lapis smelt
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She’d be pissed that he didn’t tell her immediately

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And then the world will freeze over

lapis smelt
#

It seems that he doesn’t know Demeter is his grandmother nor that Persephone is her daughter

tame bronze
#

So another Ice Age....neat.

restive elk
#

But hey, after all mortals are dead Hypnos would have a nice quality time with his brother

lapis smelt
#

You do not want to get on the bad side of Grandmother Demeter. She’s one of the oldest of gods.

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I think all the Olympians are terrified of her

paper pawn
#

one of these days zag is gonna "i'm looking for my mother persephone" because he's a himbo

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and demeter will implode

lapis smelt
#

If Demeter mentions that Persephone is her daughter I’m betting Zag is going to let something slip

tame bronze
#

Zag's gotta be smarter than that. Right Zag? Right....please take your old man's advice ans not mention anything.

lapis smelt
#

As it stands now Zag has no clue that Demeter is his grandmother. And unless Demeter mentions it he’s not going to say anything.

solemn lagoon
#

You know in the myths Demeter is actually a Titan, she was the only one pretty much accepted to be a part of the Pantheon

pallid crag
#

Oh, Demeter's VA is Latvian? neat

atomic forge
#

Demeter's lines are particularly scornful of mortals. Like she blames them for something. Did they do something when Persephone escaped and went to their world?

solemn lagoon
#

Given how Paranoid the legends made her out to be she'd probably blame them for taking Persephone away

restive elk
#

Or the may be increasingly done with all living things, hence the new Ice Age.

solemn lagoon
#

I mean her depression kinda invented winter, and always happens when Persephone is not with her

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Also a super overprotective mom which is why some versions of the story say Persephone went to Hades of free will to get away from her

lime geyser
#

soo, after the latest update I keep thinking. Are there many casualties because of war or because of Demeter trying to kill everyone

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and why Zag did not ask about his mother? Demeter should be aware at least

pallid crag
#

starvation and resource scarcity does often cause wars, yeah
zag doesnt know persephone is demeter's daughter

lime geyser
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makes sense

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well, at least 4 months until the last piece of a story, can't wait

junior field
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@lime geyser Demeter doesn't know that Zag is Persephone's son

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and if he told her, everyone on Olympus would know

patent flicker
#

Demeter is so perfect. Goddess of the harvest, ice queen. Earth is so doomed.

#

I keep thinking of Hadestown (Broadway musical, ridiculously good) when playing Hades, and this Demeter has so very much resonance with the Persephone there. I've been wondering if Supergiant has some Hadestown fans, and I suspect I have my answer. šŸ™‚

lament flame
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Ares really like that Demeter are dooming people with eternal winter shadesmile

patent flicker
#

A+++ would die of starvation in her eternal winter again.

lament flame
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Heh

patent flicker
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Also the laser crystals were super fun.

lament flame
#

Yeah! Fear me Snakestones

pallid crag
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look at me
im the snakestone now

patent flicker
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Dunno if they're good or not, but they're definitely fun.

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(Only used them on 0 heat so far, which isn't much of a workout.)

lament flame
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I appreciate crystals because they add a fun tactical element

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Also so far I didn't notice any hate from Demeter towards Hades but he called her "witch" lol

junior field
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they can't track enemies, at all, and that's without Forced Overtime

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they don't even freeze em

pallid crag
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they can track a bit

lament flame
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Still they are fun

junior field
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and I'm not gonna look for a duo boon for a garbage boon

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at least Ares' blades can chop on their own

pallid crag
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they do good dps. like 50 per second at common?

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ares is a good comparison

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i think these are more consistent, ares misses more

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for these, its easier to bait enemies into moving into range than with ares

lunar kiln
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To each their strengths yes

restive elk
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God freaking damnit Belgo

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Once again an avatar to make a man feel emotion that words struggle to explain

lunar kiln
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Such disrespect will not go unpunished, little sprout

fierce tendon
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What does Demeter even do in a trial? I'm too afraid of Grandma to find out

restive elk
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Pools of frost that expand over time

junior field
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basically, her call

broken elk
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anyone figure out how to master the lute?

pallid crag
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practice šŸ™‚

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naw but you have to talk to orpheus again, maybe multiple times?

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he gave me some tips but im still bad

junior field
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just play it after each run

broken elk
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just mash the RB button until something happens? I spent about 20 minutes figured you need to buy all the songs or increase relationship

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kk

junior field
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and talk to Orpheus, yeah

broken elk
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gotcha i figured as much didn't want to waste time strumming for nothing ha

junior field
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no, "playing" it for 20 minutes doesn't do anything

pallid crag
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it gives you a lot of frustrated zag voice lines

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theres quite a few different ones

broken elk
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yeah he doesnt improve just by playing it

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all my peeps are on clock status

pallid crag
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clock status = not in the game yet

broken elk
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k then work on demeter then nice boons tbh her duo with dio is really cool

pallid crag
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whatsit do

broken elk
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off the cast

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tipsy and her cold turns them into little vortex bombs

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boon from hermes with blast cast just dash around with sword poseidon i took hades down in record time for me

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its called ice wine

pallid crag
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is the wiki updated with Demeter boons yet?

broken elk
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dunno but you can check her regulars with the fates

hidden lion
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Hey so i know about dio / dem, but what are the other combos?

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for the duos

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I thought earlier someone said art

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but I can't seem to find the right combo

compact verge
#

I just noticed the coin in Skelly's mouth. Was that always there?

pallid crag
#

yes

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tbh im surprised its there, the obols are supposed to be paid to Charon

idle rapids
#

hey! is there still only five weapons or the sixth slot is unlockable in some way?

worldly beacon
#

do we know what all is necessary for the Dusa prophecy?

pallid crag
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the sixth weapon will come in March

zealous linden
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Oh good to know

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Any hint on what it will be ?

idle rapids
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and how to unlock the last aspects of weapons ?

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the last patch revealed the spear one , atleast

zealous linden
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I guess they're not implemented yet

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(except for the spear)

alpine cipher
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i was just about to ask

junior field
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@pallid crag I think that's supposed to tell you that Skelly didn't get downstairs via Charon

alpine cipher
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how we unlock aspect of guan yu

junior field
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talk to Achilles

zealous linden
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But you have to unlock some other aspect before that

alpine cipher
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ah beans

pastel herald
#

I like the lore of Guan Yu Aspect and the flavour text in their email blast. It makes the weapon feel like a powerful character crossing time and space

loud tiger
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@hidden lion There's a Pos Cast + Dem duo and a Dem Cast + Art duo

tepid granite
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when you thought that maybe if you clear the run with this new spear something will happen to it and make it not so trash

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but alas 😢

alpine cipher
#

still cant unlock the guan yu aspect

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how do you get it

junior field
#

do you have all weapons unlocked, all aspects?

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not to max, just the first level

alpine cipher
#

ALL WEAPONS???

junior field
#

you don't have all weapons?

alpine cipher
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i meant all aspects

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for all weapons sucks

junior field
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I don't know what the conditions are

alpine cipher
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i dumped a ton of titan bloods into the spear

junior field
#

I had all aspects unlocked and it popped up for me

alpine cipher
#

ffs

tepid granite
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you need to talk to achilles

alpine cipher
#

he doesnt have anything to say

tepid granite
#

do another run and talk to him again then

alpine cipher
#

i did

tepid granite
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try again maybe

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I had all spear aspects maxed out btw

signal palm
#

you don't need them maxed

#

i don't even have the hades one and achilles gave me the thing

alpine cipher
#

do you also have all aspects unlocked

signal palm
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not sure what that means; i have all the aspects available, but i haven't spent titan's blood on some of them

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as in, some are not selectable by me but i could buy them

alpine cipher
#

then wth :C

signal palm
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it took me a few runs until he gave me the option too 🤷

tepid granite
#

btw what do you get for fishing

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I never successfully caught anything yet

pallid crag
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meta resources

jovial surge
#

I just found out about that fishing too, I caught a hellfish and dunno what it does

#

yet

pallid crag
#

darkness, keys, nectar and gems

signal palm
#

you give them to the chef and he gives you the stuff suipe listed

lunar kiln
jovial surge
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aah

tepid granite
#

it also sucks that the clock doesn't pause while fishing

lunar kiln
#

this should help solving the grinding issue to some extent

tepid granite
#

I always play at 7m and had to skip out on it a few times because of it

alpine cipher
#

run 5

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achilles still no guan yu

tame ember
#

@is it me or are the new duo boons a bit underwhelming

tepid granite
#

wow, looks like if you have quick spin the new spear isn't completely terrible

#

it's completely broken instead

wraith moth
#

how do you unlock new aspect?

atomic forge
#

in general or are you looking for a specific one..?

wraith moth
#

i mean new new

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that guan yu one

pallid crag
#

have "several" other weapon aspects unlocked, talk to achilles

surreal hinge
#

wait so what exactly is the upside of the new spear aspect?

pallid crag
#

lifesteal and projectile on spin, generally increased damage

junior field
#

it does more damage than Zag spear

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but it has vastly reduced attack speed

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it's kind of like Hades spear, with a higher risk and reward potential

wraith moth
#

wait, i see that Orpheus document bought even tho i didnt bought it

pallid crag
#

its literally double damage

surreal hinge
#

seems weird that basically no other aspect has a down side and this one does

haughty carbon
#

I mean it's the first ever fourth aspect

#

So my guess the rest will follow the suit, going for the glass cannon options

tiny sequoia
#

Hey how come the chaos aspect doesn't have a downside

#

For like, theming reasons

junior field
#

it has a downside, you can't throw all of the shields in front of yourself anymore

restive elk
#

Same story with Zeus's shield. How come that we are not drawing the Ire of Hera and infinite child support payments?

graceful ginkgo
#

zeus shield, and chiron aspect have downsides @surreal hinge

tame ember
#

wel higher reward should mean higher risk

#

why does the house renovator keeps having a explanation mark above his head while i have unlocked everything he has?

outer sinew
#

so any toughts on the guan yu aspect? feels kind of underwhelming with it reducing your health total - making hp upgrades give significantly less. - i only tested it at lv 1 so far tho

tiny sequoia
#

Just don't get hit lmao

fierce tendon
#

I feel the "payoff" for using it isn't worth the "cost". At least not without a substantial level of investment that you can't guarantee

outer sinew
#

whats the point in having a spin attack that can heal if you dont get hit then

knotty raft
#

collar finally best keepsake

flint marten
pallid crag
#

no

flint marten
#

I was honestly hoping for flurry and dem attack to see how it works with the 10x stacks damage

pallid crag
#

not with hades spear
you want +X% damage on that for spin, not flat

flint marten
#

And I guess even the flourish is bad on this

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So I'll just pick the vengeance

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Oh crap ive just noticed, I'm using hades spear, if I take flurry I'll just screw myself up LOL

austere fox
#

gods above

#

why is demeter so uglyshadeembarassed

static widget
#

Welp, I just ran into the most ironic bug of all in reporting a bug

lunar kiln
#

I will get you for this.

austere fox
#

like all the gods are thousands of years old

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but she the only one who looks old

runic terrace
#

does old=ugly tho.....i think not?

tame ember
#

does anyone know why the house renovator keeps having a explanation mark above his head while i have unlocked everything he has? its annoying me

junior field
#

she's old

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and unhappy, because of the whole Persephone biz

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the stress, it ages you

pallid crag
#

she looks amazing for someone who looks old how dare

runic terrace
#

i found her immediately like, intimidatingly regal and beautiful

junior field
#

she's got a strong Cruella de Vil vibe

runic terrace
#

yess.....

pallid crag
#

Netherworld same here. One of the songs kept resetting its exclamation mark

runic terrace
#

hfhdjfj she just wants a coat made of cerberus

junior field
#

I sort of imagined Hera as that, but younger

#

oh, is that why I keep seeing something new from contractor each time?

#

I have all the songs though, except the hymn that was bugged

pallid crag
#

i assume it can happen with other items too

tame ember
#

i dont even have a exclamation mark next to anything

#

makes me think there's sometin more to unlock or something lol

spring scaffold
#

Than' s theme keeps getting an exclamation mark for me, yeah.

junior field
#

bond boned thanthink

austere fox
#

No man can bone death

pallid crag
#

learn more by deepening your bond
already at max hearts
?

austere fox
#

next update

static widget
#

So with marking you can make thanatos crit for 29997 damage

lament flame
#

||Omg I still can't believe we actually have a chance to romance Dusa. Yes, she has that "heart with arrow" symbol||

#

WHA

#

This is insane damage...

junior field
#

she does?!

lament flame
#

YES

junior field
#

don't spoil, I'm leaving this channel

lament flame
#

I have proofs

#

Nah I wouldn't romance her so no spoilers from me

spring scaffold
#

It was written in the patch notes.

restive elk
#

Now i'm feeling like crap because I already took the Meg's offer.

lament flame
#

Yeah?

#

I am sorry I am blind then

spring scaffold
#

Please SGG, let me break up with Than and Meh so I can focus on sweet Dusa only.

lament flame
#

Don't break hearts of this two polyamory still a thing!!!

restive elk
#

Well with Meg it's maybe not that bad because ||Dusa to Meg is more of a sister than her actual sisters are|| ... Or that makes it worse.

spring scaffold
#

Time spent with Than or Meg is time not spent with Dusa, making it time wasted.

lament flame
#

Tho I preferred romance only Than so...

#

No problems for me

#

I just know that many people waited for this route so I decided to make someone's day brighter

restive elk
#

It's really hard to think of Than as an option then every time he shows up after you took a beating... just to make it like 3-4 times worse. And then leave after you've been trying to survive the mess he created.

lament flame
#

For me this is fine

spring scaffold
#

If you weren't tryharding for his attention, you could sit back, relax, and get your room reward for free.

restive elk
#

God bless your heart then... Employee of a mounth, blood and darkness.

lament flame
#

I am now not allowed to talk about that lol?

restive elk
#

Now back to the game perspective. Is it fun dashing around the corners? Survaival rooms tell me that it is not.

lament flame
#

I didn't say it's easy but I understood your point

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AHHH I CAUGHT MY FIRTS FISH

uncut ibex
#

how do i learn to play the lyre?

spring scaffold
#

From what I understood, you gotta buy the lyre and keep trying run after run.

uncut ibex
#

ah ok ty

tribal marsh
#

Alright guys: given that it is never daytime when you get to the surface, thoughts on what happened to Apollo?

nocturne rose
#

Artemis hunted his ass

glacial storm
#

eloped with persephone

fierce tendon
#

Passed off the duty of driving the Chariot to Helios, who has a cold because Winter

nocturne rose
#

Hey I know it's a little early still but does anybody know a good fishing spot? Like I only seem to get fishing spots in tarrarus

restive elk
#

Be grateful for that, other fishing spots just give you some keys and nectar

chilly shard
#

"This everlasting winter, its her fault is it?" Crazyeyes

nocturne rose
#

Ah ok

tribal marsh
#

Just give nectar? O.o

#

I need like 200 more nectar

restive elk
#

The elysium gives nectar, keys in lava town and darkness in styx

tame ember
#

what the hell is ambiguity?

#

from boldy

lament flame
#

It does nothing actually

#

Just there. Exists

uncut ibex
#

anybody know the boons you need to get demeter legendary?

tribal marsh
#

Not much. Basically any tier 2 I think

uncut ibex
#

ok cool ty

keen nacelle
#

Regarding Bouldy, ||Will the game ever stop you from giving him Nectar, or can you do it every run you meet him? and if so, is the Heart of Stone Boon the only benefit for doing it?||

pallid crag
#

he's one of the nectar sinks, ye

keen nacelle
#

Fair enough, thanks!

#

Another question actually, is there any downside to romancing several of the possible NPCs, or can you just go wild?

primal creek
#

So far there's none

#

Besides

#

It's greek

valid grail
#

demeter legendary is ||when hitting 10% hp chilled ennemies explode dealing damage and chilling in aoe||

keen nacelle
#

that's fair enough LUL thanks again

midnight sinew
#

HOLY

#

OH MY GOD

#

||Demeter's the reason for the everlasting winter... Oh shhhhid dude...||

bleak osprey
#

Baz, don’t dodge the filter.

primal creek
#

Here I am, knowing stuff about greek mythology, going rooKek

valid grail
#

btw did you found what are demeter's duo ? I think there is one with ||dio||, I found the one with ||pose|| (||need pose cast + chilling effet/call ? of demeter, replace cast by slow ice shard which pass through ennemies and release small blizzard aoe while moving||) but didn't found any other (couldn't even trigger the ||dio|| one in like 7 runs shadedisgruntled )

bleak osprey
#

Anyway: ā€œpeople die when they are killedā€ but it’s ā€œmortals die when they are coldā€

lament flame
#

She also kinda (a lot) hate mortals lol

primal creek
#

Not much of a fan of Hades, either

lament flame
#

As Hades not a fan of her

primal creek
#

Every spring Persephone comes to Olympus to tell her mother to stop bullying the humans

lunar kiln
#

mother says it's my turn on the season machine

lament flame
#

hahaha

#

Actually humans were ungrateful to nature in the myth so I can understand her. In one of her line she also saying ||"(mortals) always begging me for plenty"|| but I think she actually hates them because of her lose of Persephone.

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HOW DARE YOU WANT FROM ME SOMETHING... when I am sad. Well, you should be sad either. and die

merry sorrel
#

not very professional of her

lament flame
#

On Olympus exits only few of them (professionals I mean). Maybe only Hermes

knotty raft
#

angry babushka

lament flame
#

)))