h1-story-discussion

[lament flame]

Playing constantly on 9 or 10 heat. But to get accustomed to it I died so many times...

[fickle yoke]

@lament flame i have not enough time to progress

[lament flame]

This is sad

[fickle yoke]

work is work

[hearty jay]

Which conditions do you guys usually pick for heat at around 4-5?

[fickle yoke]

@hearty jay time deadline

and some bluehearts

ex furies

sounds ok for me

[hearty jay]

ex furies = the new mechanics for 1 boss?

[fickle yoke]

y

[hearty jay]

I've been doing the 25% extra mobs among other things, but it just takes sooo long lol

Tried the middle management one now, that was pretty ok. The lava boat took 2 death defiances though, but got through the run

Gotta try the blue hearts

[fast idol]

Blue hearts are fine for fast hitting weapons

but are kinda annoying for bow

[hearty jay]

Ah

[fickle yoke]

@fast idol u can hit Q

[fast idol]

whats q

[hearty jay]

Special i presume?

[fickle yoke]

bow

[fast idol]

idk I'm playing on controller

[hearty jay]

Me too

[fickle yoke]

sry

[hearty jay]

After like 2 encounters with the gun, I immediately rebound reload to LT

[fast idol]

I only reload when I use the corresponding aspect but

to be entirely fair I don't like either current aspects for the rail

[hearty jay]

I kinda like the special absorb one

[lament flame]

Eris one is fun

[fast idol]

I need more combo ideas tho for any weapon

[fickle yoke]

@lament flame Эрис это с перезарядкой?

[fast idol]

I kinda default to dionysos lol

[hearty jay]

I tend to default to athena

[lament flame]

@fickle yoke нет, это с поглощением урона спешала

[fickle yoke]

ага вечно их путаю

[hearty jay]

Everything deflecting just makes life so much easier. Feels like it just halves the amount of dangerous stuff on screen

[fast idol]

hm true

[lament flame]

Deflect dash is must have

[fast idol]

I do kinda neglect Poseidon and Zeus a quite bit

[hearty jay]

Me too

Poseidon is bottom tier for me

[fast idol]

and I mostly use Artemis for her side boons lol

[hearty jay]

Since Hades doesn't seem to be able to be pushed around

[fickle yoke]

@hearty jay poseidon OP for usual rooms

[fast idol]

Poseidon is great if you find exclusive access early lol

[fickle yoke]

bad for bosses

[hearty jay]

@fickle yoke Yeah, but I mostly struggle on Hades. Feels like all my picks are for optimizing the Hades fight

[fickle yoke]

Hades usually not a big problem 4 me

i mean if i stay full DD and lot of HP

i beat him anyway

[hearty jay]

Yeah that's true

But I kind of feel like if I don't have full DD at Hades, I have failed

[lament flame]

Poseidon also good for combo Artemis + Ares with Hera's bow. His cast.

[hearty jay]

How does that aspect work?

[fickle yoke]

@hearty jay u cahrge cast into AA

[hearty jay]

What exactly happens when you press the cast button?

[fickle yoke]

it loads in ur AA

[hearty jay]

Does it still play the animation?

[fickle yoke]

what?

[hearty jay]

The cast animation

[fickle yoke]

no

u can use dio

it will explode where ur AA hits

no throw animation

[hearty jay]

Like can you put all your casts in one shot instantly?

[fickle yoke]

y

it's just

[hearty jay]

Ah, that sounds nice

[fickle yoke]

something

[lament flame]

yup

[fickle yoke]

@lament flame а тройной каст посейдона прокает на толпу?

[hearty jay]

So the upside with the Heras bow is that you can avoid the cast animation?

[fickle yoke]

а то я как то на тройной спешл винтовки навесил посейдона

и у меня первая разбрасывала всех и 2-3 просто уходили в пустоту

@hearty jay cast will start where ur AA ends

if it's not blocked

[hearty jay]

The heck is AA btw?

[fickle yoke]

AutoAttack

[hearty jay]

Ah

[lament flame]

@fickle yoke так себе. Поэтому нужен Арес на спешл

[hearty jay]

Dota terminology? ^^

[fickle yoke]

@lament flame я был молод и глуп

@hearty jay i dont remeber

[lament flame]

@fickle yoke Вообще поэтому я и говорю что нужны Артемида и Арес. Пуляешь критующую атаку с кастом, затем используешь спешал. Веселее чем билд через блейд рифты Ареса. Я на них 2 воскрешалки всрала на Мэг

[fickle yoke]

@rigid vine u can use it to have Comps

there are 4 chars in the game 4 now

Meg Tomatos Skelly and Sizif

u give them Nectar

[rigid vine]

yes i read it on wiki, but the thing is i cant give nectar to 6 heart chars anymore

[fickle yoke]

lvlup reletion to max

[rigid vine]

like theres no option

[fickle yoke]

and do their quest

[rigid vine]

quest?

[fast idol]

They all have little side-tasks you can do...kinda

[fickle yoke]

@lament flame ни черта не понял 😄

[hollow garden]

You will no longer be able to gift nectar to those characters. Once you max a character who can be given Ambrosia, you'll see a locked heart in the codex. Each character has a "quest" (i prefer to call it a "favor") that you must do for them before you can gift them Ambrosia.

[fast idol]

Is Bouldy btw a nectar sink?

[hollow garden]

he is lol

[fast idol]

frick

[fickle yoke]

@rigid vine Like kill Skelly forever

[fast idol]

I gifted him so much already

[fickle yoke]

or beat Tomatos for some times

[rigid vine]

what are the quests for each of them

[fickle yoke]

beat extreme Meg for some times

and free Sizif

[fast idol]

Than you need to best in his lil duels a certain amount of times

Meg you need to build her relationship between her sisters with the pact

Skelly needs to be beaten by a max Zag aspected Blade from what I heard

[fickle yoke]

@fast idol not just beaten

permanently killed

[fast idol]

I can't read that

[fickle yoke]

nobody could

it was just bunch of random letters

😄

[hollow garden]

• Skelly is the most obvious one. He'll ask you to release him from his duties by killing him with the Max Rank Zag Aspect Sword.

• Thanatos is simply to encounter him and beat him a couple times until he gives you some unique dialogue.

• Megaera is to repeatedly fight the Furies with Extreme Measures to get them to work better together and become more tolerant of each other.

• Sisyphus is the hardest one imo, he needs to be freed from his punishment by purchasing his contract from the House Contractor, which will only show up after you:
  Max his hearts
  Get his interaction about freeing him
  Get Hades' interaction about freeing him
  Get Meg's interaction about freeing him.
  Then you can buy the contract for 3 Diamonds.

[fickle yoke]

3???

10!

[hollow garden]

As far as I kno its no longer 10

[fast idol]

i thought 12

[hollow garden]

It used to be 10 and from what I have heard is now 3

[fast idol]

ah

[fickle yoke]

just 1 or 2 days ago

it was 10

[hollow garden]

I havent gotten Shady yet so I'll confirm myself next time I see it

[rigid vine]

damn

thats a lot

[hollow garden]

people have been telling me its 3. I'm hesitant to believe them, (though imo it should be 3 diamonds, 10 is way too expensive)

Companions are by far the hardest things to get in the game.

[fickle yoke]

https://prnt.sc/qjp06n

it was yesterday!

[hollow garden]

They're very powerful as well but its possible some players may never unlock them

[fickle yoke]

it's not too hard to get Diamonds

[supple dagger]

After unlocking the Pact of Punishment, Meg finally spawned in my God Mode run.

[fickle yoke]

cus u always have more keys and more nectar

and u can change this for Dia

[hollow garden]

you can but the problem is you need to spend your keys and nectar on other things too

so you're likely not trading them

[fickle yoke]

not rly

i unlocked mirror

and all summons

so i do not need keys

and nectar

only for dia

and rare deals

[hollow garden]

You need a total of 102 Keys to unlock the entire mirror. You need a total of 16 Keys to unlock all the weapons.

So to unlock everything its 118 keys.

You need 22 Nectar to get every Keepsake in the game. You need an additional 16 to get each of the characters' with companions up to 5. (Nectar is also super rare)

Most players will not be converting into Diamonds until they unlock most of these things. In addition, you need 12 Diamonds to unlock all the meta cost upgrades (im not counting Heat gates or music).

[fickle yoke]

@hollow garden i'm not very good player

but it was not too hard 4 me

i also had lot of prophecies

which gave me dia

and gems

[hollow garden]

Don't forget unlocking Orpheus is a diamond as well (which ofc unlocks Eurydice)

[fickle yoke]

i did this

and 5-6 songs too

@hollow garden when u count Nectar

[hollow garden]

The Fated List offers 18 Diamonds in total, which considerably does reduce grind time

[fickle yoke]

is there 2nd and 3rd for Chaos to get his prophecies?

[hollow garden]

its important to note that 10 of those diamonds are for unlocking aspects and slicing skelly

so you cant earn some of those diamonds for a while

Chaos ones offer 20 keys each to get all boons and all curses

that's pretty hard to do though

[fickle yoke]

@hollow garden u do it anyway

[tranquil forge]

http://prntscr.com/qk4yjz

we need a cure for the common cold...

[fickle yoke]

cold

banana peel

and road traffic

still stronger than Lord Hades himself

[tranquil forge]

i didn't get the banana peel yet 😄

but i did get the traffic 😄

[fickle yoke]

it's not called banana

but some yellow fruit from distant land

[vagrant cloud]

Has anyone seen Zagreus freeze to death post-Hades?

Since it's winter and he's pretty scantily clad?

OMG I just missed that common cold hting. NVM

[tranquil forge]

[lapis smelt]

I keep getting the beetle ending which is hilarious. You can tell the narrator is starting to run out of ideas. It’d be nice to get a shout out from Zag (“Really? Are you at string to run out of ideas on how to kill me?”)

[bleak osprey]

funnily enough, "ideas" is one of the end screens

@lapis smelt

[acoustic condor]

Hehehe

[lapis smelt]

Lmao

[acoustic condor]

I love you SGG

[fickle yoke]

curse for not having money

works only for monsters

or for room reward too?

[slim crescent]

THATS SO DIRTY

WHAT THE HECK

:|

[fickle yoke]

@slim crescent ?

[lapis smelt]

Hades Phase Two probably

[fickle yoke]

@lapis smelt or Zags room

[slim crescent]

no beating hades

i hadn't died once and then i died once to hades second phase

but the whole pretend it didnt happen thing

[lapis smelt]

Ah. Hades is just in denial lmao. It’s in character for him to pretend that things didn’t happen. But if you talk to other people you’ll see it’s not the case.

[fickle yoke]

also i wanted to ask

when Zag dies

he hers some narrator voice

with some random(or it looks like) word from this speech

also it happens when zag start his run sometimes

but with father

what are this random word

[bleak osprey]

the stuff at the start of the run is basically just zag remembering something hades has said to him in the past

[fickle yoke]

@bleak osprey i dont think it's past

[bleak osprey]

the stuff at the end of a run is just a humorous excuse for why zag 'won' but still got killed + sent back to the house

[fickle yoke]

cus one time i remeber he said "get out from my head"

or like that

[bleak osprey]

well, i mean. have you never remembered something and wished you weren't thinking about it at that exact moment?

[fickle yoke]

and

when Zag use pact for one of 1st times

Hades said they must be done in order

or like that

i do not thnk he used this thing before

i'm paranoid

i want all this words stick together im some sentence

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/992150243742433280/aeuvk5fC_400x400.jpg

[supple dagger]

I, shockingly, managed a second defeat of Hades. This time, with the pact of punishment active and with the Adament Rail

I think getting deflects in my attacks might have helped a bit.

[fickle yoke]

deflect on rail looks not rly good imo

[sour creek]

deflect dash is best girl

[supple dagger]

well, it worked for me. It was awkward, but it helped deflect incoming attacks that just happen to graze my bullets.

i.e. spreaders in Asphodel

[haughty carbon]

Deflect on rail was the set up I won the first run, but lol, I was using it only to block otherwise I used 3 quick rockets and cast bombs

[supple dagger]

My special mostly had doom and the Aspect I was using had me gain a brief buff if I'm in the blast radius.

[primal atlas]

one thin gi dont understand

you emerge from hades

its snowing

why isnt persephone back in the underworld

or is that part of the myth not a thing

[fickle yoke]

or mb she is

or mb somewhere else

[supple dagger]

She's definitely not in Olympus with Grandma Demeter. Or, imo, it could be snowing because we're near the mountaintops.

Those tend to snow year-round, Spring or Autumn

[fickle yoke]

@supple dagger but there is river

or lake

not frozen

there is calm water

so there is no way it subzero here

[sour creek]

filled with saltwater, the salt coming from all our good runs that died early

[fickle yoke]

@sour creek nice idea

[lunar kiln]

sgg watching everyone talk about demeter as if she were a grandma but her design may not look like an old lady:

[supple dagger]

Charon makes sure the water's warm enough for sailing.

[fickle yoke]

Chaos doesnt look old

[opaque hull]

It's really really hard to die early tho

[fickle yoke]

but he is oldest

[opaque hull]

Unless your'e on reaaally high heat

[supple dagger]

Chaos, indeed, looks like a twink that has too many faces buried in their belly. And probably what angels actually look like too.

[atomic forge]

[30 interlocking spinning wheels of fire with way too many eyes and wings appears out of the ether] "Do not be afraid."

[fickle yoke]

i thought angels had no faces

[agile wadi]

a mass of eyes is not a face :P

[sour creek]

[readies Bull Rush]

[primal atlas]

is the bull rush powr shot hammer upgrade a projectile?

[haughty carbon]

real talk, first when I saw Chaos I couldn't help but see a bit of Tyler the Creator in it.

[gusty crag]

explain

[primal atlas]

lol

[lunar kiln]

i mean chaos is indeed a creator so you're at least half-right

[agile wadi]

@primal atlas if its the one im thinking of, yes

good thing you asked before picking it; i didnt and had misread it, didnt realize it replaced the charge and it borked my run haha

[fickle yoke]

@primal atlas bullrush is usual shield charged attack

[haughty carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361194103725096960/663134902635593748/qjlDJ78p.png

[sour creek]

I wanna talk to the belly kids

[fickle yoke]

what is belly kids?

[sour creek]

On Chaos lol

The weird faces on their stomach

[fickle yoke]

the on from the left is like "what am i doing with my life"

[remote knot]

anyone here experienced weird hitbox stuff with hades im not sure if its a glitch or just the game being a bit off cause of 3 things happening at once?

[atomic forge]

If you're talking about the lingering hitbox at the beginning of phase 2, yes.

[remote knot]

no

so he did an attack i think i dodged it cause it played out the dash but at the end of the dash it killed me and it didn't look like i got hit so I'm confused

[supple dagger]

Chaos could probably make for a threatening boss if they were given a physical presence or the Dark Realm beneath Tartarus...

[remote knot]

Hey quick question is it just me or is Hades unfun to fight at times with the deceptive hitboxes tight timings messy arena at the start that doesnt provide much cover near the end and the spawning other enemys thing

[acoustic condor]

Nah I like it

[primal atlas]

there are some parts of asphodel i dont like. and sometimes i forget whats a trap in elysium

[dawn ore]

Status report on 32 heat run: almost beat Theseus and Asterius

[primal atlas]

but mostly i like it

[dawn ore]

:c

[primal atlas]

nice

[remote knot]

I legit have huge problems with elysium

Just the shield guys and the butterfly's but oh god those are a pain

[primal atlas]

elysium is hard on my laptop too

[remote knot]

Huh

[primal atlas]

the butterflies i like because it creates shifting priorities.

[remote knot]

Just hard to see and a bit tanky

[primal atlas]

the shield guys are a necessary lead up to theseus

[remote knot]

I think shields and thesues are fine except they block way to much

Like straight ahead both sides and a tiny bit of the back it feels

[ocean crescent]

lol i hate shield guys

[pliant oracle]

Random question: Was Zag in a triad with Than and Meg?

[fickle yoke]

what is triad

[bleak osprey]

zag and meg were a thing at some point prior to the game, but the relationship with thanatos is new

so far as i can tell

[atomic forge]

Polyamorous relationship with three people in it.

[solar depot]

but they are able to be over the course of game events, yes

[pliant oracle]

That warms my heart so much

[bleak osprey]

👏 two 👏 hands 👏

[atomic forge]

Sorry, holding both of Meg's hands.

[fickle yoke]

Meg is a reverse Gem

and Than just... naaaht

[atomic forge]

...Reverse gem?

[fickle yoke]

how do i call it? backwards?

[atomic forge]

Hidden gem?

[fickle yoke]

eh

i mean

if u read this

from other side

[main gulch]

Oh if you read Meg backwards it says Gem lol

And Than is Naht

[fickle yoke]

i did Naaaaaaht https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M5PuJGzbcvY/maxresdefault.jpg

[main gulch]

Oh hi mark

[fickle yoke]

anyway

i need relax

[delicate helm]

Quick quiestion thats prolly asked alot: Is there any requirements or something regarding unlocking the Hymn to Zagreus?
I have both guys maxed out on nectar and keepsake.
And is it really necessary to buy every other pice of music?

[atomic forge]

You mean Orpheus playing it or appearing at the Contractor?

[scenic anchor]

ahem

i think this game needs a True Final Boss or something

to amp things up if you progress enough

[paper pawn]

@delicate helm If you met Eurydice before Orpheus sometimes there’s a bug that prevents the right conversation chain from happening to trigger that item in the shop

For now just have to wait for it to be fixed

[atomic forge]

Game's not done yet, @scenic anchor

[scenic anchor]

ik

i just heard they're planning on having just 4 biomes

so i'm putting my thoughts out there

also Hydra boss is a bit boring compared to the rest of the game

[stone aurora]

Ditto on Hydra. Feels a little too 'formulaic' (?) I guess that's how I'd put it

[rotund moth]

Do we have a preview image for the next major update?

[scenic anchor]

@rotund moth can you link me the full version of your pfp? 🙂

[primal atlas]

hydra is a slog imo

[violet hull]

It usually can be without optimal boons :/

With good luck, it's a breeze, but sometimes I dread going against it with a mediocre load out

[primal atlas]

yeah its either too easy or just ... slow

[supple dagger]

oh damn. I missed the conversation about Meg and Than and Zag being a thing. To be honest, I didn't think about that. I just figured Than and Zag were close friends and Than's being moody about the fact that he won't be able to see his friend... and it processing it by going "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DEFY YOUR FATHER! HOW DARE YOU ABANDON NYX, YOU'RE REAL MOTHER!" and then he spawns sometimes to have a competition and see who can kill as many wretches within a set limit, with the winner taking home a centaur heart.

Meg and Zag being a former flame deal makes her initial interactions at the start of every boss fight seem very... cute. And then there's Alecto, who I guess is trying to play rebound sadomaschist style. And Tisiphone? She just doing a job with only ONE thing in mind. Murder. who hurt her?

[solar depot]

one might say they are very close friends.

[grand mantle]

You got that right XD

[atomic forge]

Heh. Alecto is thinking "This dude is crazy hot and he keeps beating Meg, gimme," but she doesn't know any other way to express it.

[grand mantle]

Though I'm wondering... is Meg just very cold and sharp by default, or is she especially so because of how their first go at a relationship ended?

[atomic forge]

Definitely the latter. I'd say cool and rough-edged by default.

[solar depot]

i feel like there was definitely some emotional messiness to their relationship though that contributes to her prickly reception

i think a lot of it is just Meg Lyfe though

[grand mantle]

Yeah, that'd make sense. It's just that us players don't actually know about the relationship until after it ended the first time, and it only becomes explicit after the former half of the nectar conversations. Couldn't tell if it was just Meg being Meg, or Meg being grumpy at Zag in particular 😛

[solar depot]

i 1000% need and desire more meg + than interactions

[grand mantle]

^^^^

Also I really, really wish we can help out Eurydice/Orpheus and Achilles/Patroclus.

[solar depot]

ME TOO AUGH

[grand mantle]

Hades is apathetic to it all, but Zag isn't!

[solar depot]

i feel like we're working up to that though

[grand mantle]

Yaaaas 😄

Man. For having grown up with such a terrible father figure, I'm glad Zag had Nyx and Achilles.

[solar depot]

zag: i'm gonna solve everyone's relationship problems!
meg:
than:
zag: yep, here i go!

[grand mantle]

😂

Zag is precious, lbr

[quasi swan]

I'm here for Zag helping the forlorn couples, and Zag being the god of Relationship Counseling

[grand mantle]

The god of Talking Back and Relationship Counseling?

[quasi swan]

@grand mantle Perfection!

[grand mantle]

\o/

[gusty crag]

My daily prayers to #BestGirlArtemis go out to the superior goddess of Olympus

[graceful wharf]

this server is in dire need of Artemis emotes

[grand mantle]

Artemis is a dork and the best girl, yes!

(sorry Meg, again)

[flat oyster]

No, you're right

[gusty crag]

She has a huge fanbase without a route even in place yet

[ebon rose]

Does giving characters Nectar beyond the first do anything (apart from the four that have special things once you fill their hearts)?

[gusty crag]

I think that shows her sheer power

[hollow garden]

can i just say

i love the achilles reaction where he says

[lapis smelt]

I’ll take the socially awkward goofball that is Artemis over some of the more ‘accurate’ depictions of her

[atomic forge]

#BestGirlDusa

[hollow garden]

"either tell meg how you feel or stop giving her gifts"

[atomic forge]

[graceful wharf]

Dusa is only 2nd best girl

[atomic forge]

https://i.imgur.com/ZD3bW2m.png

I am glad we agree

🙂

[graceful wharf]

you blackguard, you twisted my words

[ebon rose]

Don't appropriate Athens culture

[slate oracle]

Guys, I'm 90% sure that Meg quest is bugged. It hasn't triggered in the 10+ runs since I've maxed her nectar meter

Am I just extremely unlucky?

[winged venture]

Do you have Extreme Measures enabled?

[slate oracle]

Yup. Fought her and the sisters multiple times

She just won't give the quest to me.

Do I have to lose to them?

She keeps being salty about me kicking her ass

[winged venture]

I think you just have bad RNG with it cause I believe Extreme Measures is the only requirement

And I got it in the current version

[slate oracle]

Does it have to be a particular level of EM?

I'm playing at EM 3, maybe I gotta tone it down?

[winged venture]

It just has to be 1 so her relationship improves with her sisters

I don't think raising it higher than 1 has any effect on her quest line working

I think it depends on the amount of times you get the formation where you fight all 3 at once

[slate oracle]

Maybe I'll try to bring it down to 1, it's the only thing I can think of at this point

They've fought all 3 almost all the times, except maybe 3-4 times

[winged venture]

dunno then, sorry I couldn't help

[slate oracle]

Nah man you helped

Have a good night/day

[untold sable]

i just tried extreme measures against the arena, i haven't fought them yet but im shookt

[main gulch]

Steel yourself!

[light ivy]

I've been stuck with Thanatos's affection gauge locked and I don't know how to unlock it. I thought maybe after we had a drink something would happen, but he just hasn't been showing up since then as far as I recall

[graceful wharf]

Meg and Than interactions are completely rng, some people got it early and some really late

[light ivy]

Okay, so it's just a matter of biding my time? In the meantime I will continue to be a messenger for troubled couples and feeding Cerberus (he will get fat)

[graceful wharf]

yup just wait and hope that rng is on your side

[ocean fulcrum]

Can anyone here tell me how to trigger Skelly's special heart thing so I can get the companion from him?

[drifting citrus]

give him enough nectar and talk to him

he'll tell you what you have to do

[ocean fulcrum]

I've given him enough nectar and I've talked to him a lot, he no longer has an exclamation point above his head when I encounter him, I'm not sure what to do now

[slate oracle]

Man, seems that these RNG interactions are bugging everyone off

Is the RNG really needed? I understand that they try and make so the House doesn't have too many things on the same run, but it should prioritize questlines

[main gulch]

if you got him to the right level and spoke to him he should ask you to kill him with a fully upgraded zagreus aspect sword

[slate oracle]

@main gulch quest triggers aren't so reliable, It sometimes takes a lot for them to appear without apparent reason, even if you've met all the requirements

[light ivy]

The key, as so often is the case, appears to have been to ask if I was doing something wrong because Than finally showed up for me again

[hollow garden]

Meg took me like 20 runs to get

its just bad rng unfortunately

[ocean fulcrum]

Ah, thought I was doing something wrong ;-;

[proper cairn]

[graceful wharf]

blast you Skelly for putting me through this torment

[atomic forge]

32 Heat or his Legendary Keepsake?

[red glacier]

https://gyazo.com/29346114d3bf73bae9c21a7ae60b22c4

[graceful wharf]

@atomic forge 32 heat, stuffs like budget cut, max jury summons and forced overtime just kill me

[atomic forge]

I'm about to lose to Tight Deadline.

Minute left starting a challenge chamber 34.

4.04 on the clock, will I make it with only one DD?

[graceful wharf]

Tough but good luck

[atomic forge]

...

[austere fox]

what's with the crazy amounts of gems

getting a 100+ gems in one run is already pretty good

but you need 5000 for one thing?

[junior field]

the text files have Apollo in em, anyone noticed that?

[austere fox]

haven't seen any mention of it

[junior field]

Darren,Scratch_,0027,Scratch_0027,Apollo,Elitist Country Club Member,Greg,"Well I must say, and I don't say it lightly: I'm impressed with your performance, Zagreus. I didn't know what to expect, either, but! You've earned my favor. Now, hasten from that place already, and join your rightful family, up here.",,,

[austere fox]

@junior field just a word of warning tho I personally don't care, but mods don't allow to post datamined spoilers

[junior field]

I mean, it's in the subtitles

"datamined"

[austere fox]

yeah

[junior field]

Hades\Content\Subtitles\en\Scratch.csv is where I saw it

[austere fox]

y just telling you mate, a chap got his message deleted and warned by a mod a few days ago

I'm looking for the UI scripts for the keepsake rack

can't seem to find it anywhere

[junior field]

you wanna make custom keepsakes?

[austere fox]

y

rather, to add new keepsakes

which is easy by itself but having them show up on screen is another story

[junior field]

have you checked Hades\Content\Scripts\UIScripts.lua?

[austere fox]

https://imgur.com/SsQCOHc

@opaque hull added new keepsake

@junior field it was AwardMenuScripts.lua

[junior field]

ah, 🍓 nice

[austere fox]

need to add description and effects

but at least I know how to do it now

man I don't wanna be rude but the devs have terrible naming sense

one time it's called gift, in another place it's keepsake

then keep_rack

and it was awardMenu all along

[junior field]

I saw gift and didn't even bother to look inside, thought it was related to nectar/ambrosia gifts

[austere fox]

yeah to add a keepsake is simple once you find out

add a trait in traitData

then add it to the rack in GiftData

and link it to an npc in GiftData

[junior field]

I was wondering, do you get to bone Thanatos the way you do Meg?

[opal wing]

yeah

[viral vortex]

You get to bone people?

or did you mean just to forge bonds?

[opal wing]

just those two

at max

[winged venture]

Can't bone Skelly 0/10

[opal wing]

agree

[junior field]

so, will that have any repercussions in the future? As in, you went for both of em, and did the thing with both of em, will you have to choose one of em?

[opal wing]

No actually, they even have dialogue to be supportive of you for being a stud a great friend with no jealousy attached

[junior field]

and you can turn em both down?

the text says it's ok either way, but I'm suspicious

[opal wing]

I dont actually remember if I got an option for meg to turn her down

its likely, i just dont remember

[junior field]

she has it, yeah

[leaden canyon]

you get one

<o/

[viral vortex]

Oh, this truly is Supergiant's best game then

[junior field]

it really is. They took Bastion's base, refined it with their Transistor stuff, et voila

[lucid salmon]

But I can't banter with Sandra in this game didn't happen enough in Pyre either tho

[junior field]

Dusa > Sandra

but Sandra > Achilles

[winged venture]

Unlock the super secret Dusa romance option

[velvet pollen]

I have played through 17 escape attempts and have not encountered thanatos even once. Are there any requirements to meet him?

[junior field]

I was actually wondering if they'll add an option to find Dusa's body

[untold sable]

need to have taken damage at least 5 rooms before, and he only appears after a certain number of chambers depending on the biome

but also, rng

[junior field]

as her romance lock option

[velvet pollen]

Meaning you have to have taken damage i one of the 5 last rooms, or in each of them?

[untold sable]

in one of the 5 last rooms

but when I'm baiting him haha I catch a hit at least once per room lmao

[velvet pollen]

Weird.. I hope I'm just unlucky and it's not some obscure bug.

[untold sable]

he takes awhile

[winged venture]

He's a very busy man

[untold sable]

I think also talking to Hypnos helps?

[winged venture]

This has nothing to do with his spawn, but giving Hermes enough nectar also makes him talk a bit about Thanatos

[coarse stone]

Just to confirm, getting Thanatos hearts completed then is followed up by talking to him until the romance?

[untold sable]

more or less?

just keep talking to him when you see him

[austere fox]

hmmmmm

adding new text lines crashes the game kappa

[viral vortex]

Thats such a cute spawn trigger

[untold sable]

ahh. I thought you could jump heats, you really have to complete them one by one

tried out a 16 heat run, my previous one was heat 8.

[lament flame]

You just jump to high. You should increase heat slowly (1-3 points). I know this because once I switched from 5 heat to 12 and oh boy. THIS WAS HARD

[untold sable]

i

yeah

they're so FAST

my hubris

[young aurora]

What happens at higher heat?

[untold sable]

my downfall

[lime cobalt]

Anypne actually cleared full heat before?

Its like 48 right

[junior field]

@young aurora nothing, you just don't get the rewards from all the previous heat levels that you haven't beaten

[untold sable]

I died to Hydra ex farther than I thought I'd go

jumping from 8 to 16

[junior field]

so if your highest was 5 heat and you do 15, you'd only get rewards for 6 heat

which is rather irritating: my highest was 8, but then I did 15 out of curiosity and beat it with relative ease

but now I have to do 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and 15

I'd rather just go for 16 and then straight for 32, cuz there's nothing in between

[graceful wharf]

@lime cobalt it's not possible atm unless you can manipulate rng, and highest heat is 45

[lime cobalt]

Ouh ye 45

[main gulch]

highest heat is 46

if you're playing a hell save anyway

[agile wadi]

im at around 2 dozen runs and havent met thanatos yet

[junior field]

I've only met him after 20+ hours of runs

[icy sinew]

2 dozen is 20+

[junior field]

math checks out

[icy sinew]

i met him like the 2nd run i had in the 3rd map

[cloud lion]

took so long to do these NPC questline cause hard to meet them.

I'm stuck at Sisyphus companion for a dozen run now, cause I didn't meet him at all after purchasing the contract.

[austere fox]

anyone got an idea for a mod?

[opaque hull]

Boon shuffle

Every room you get 5 random boons

[austere fox]

oh hi king

[opaque hull]

;p

[austere fox]

did you see when I tagged you?

I managed to add new keepsakes

[opaque hull]

We can talk more after I'm done with work, trying to motivate myself to do some 💩 things

[austere fox]

👌

no idea how to shuffle boons but random boon thing might be possible

like a counter that adds 1 after every encounter

if counter >= 5 then next room reward will have a random boon added

[opaque hull]

I was thinking on changing the boons 6ou have

Boons*

[fickle yoke]

and what about survival mode?

[last horizon]

I too am hoping for mod

And mod support in the future

[austere fox]

ooh survival mode

[last horizon]

I tend to get tired of games because i play too much of them in such a short span so mods keeps them fresh

[opaque hull]

Also, is it possible to spawn bosses outside their arenas?

[austere fox]

@fickle yoke if you mean endless I might be able to do it

@opaque hull have to try

[fickle yoke]

@austere fox did u play Crimsonland?

[austere fox]

no

[fickle yoke]

u face lots of monsters which keep running you from all direction

[last horizon]

Endless would be insaneee

Please do it

[fickle yoke]

and gaining XP for them

[last horizon]

I would give you my firstborn

[fickle yoke]

and have some random skills for lvlup

[austere fox]

that sounds complicated

so I guess you'd spawn in an arena and then mobs come in waves?

[fickle yoke]

like that yes

[austere fox]

after x wave cleared you receive a random reward

[fickle yoke]

well it looks like... usual Hades gameplay

but in 1 room

😄

[austere fox]

sounds cool but I'm not sure if I can do it

also it would completely stop your progress in the game

[opaque hull]

You might want to make an alternate exit into endless mode, separate from the window

Maybe a chaos gate in the courtyard5

[last horizon]

Infinite barge of deatg

:D

[opaque hull]

Also, a useful mod, apply god boons in the courtyard

[last horizon]

With middle management ofc

[austere fox]

@opaque hull I am no god don't expect too much

[opaque hull]

You set yourself up for this

[austere fox]

if it doesn't crash for mysterious reasons it's already great

[opaque hull]

You have those 3 downloads

[austere fox]

oh boy you don't know

it's increased

[opaque hull]

5?

[austere fox]

9

[opaque hull]

Owow

[austere fox]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🚒

just realised I never linked it here

posted in #self-promotion

I wanted to post some of the other stuff I made but it can crash the game if badly handled

@last horizon you know max aspect upgrade

it can be increased

[last horizon]

Wattt?

Like go even further beyond

[austere fox]

Costs = { 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, },
MaxUpgradeLevel = 5,

it's all like this

[last horizon]

Hmmm, might not be the most balanced

But 10 shields

On throw 😂 😂 😂

300 base damage hestia 🤔 🤔

[austere fox]

max level for the contract too

all can be increased

[last horizon]

Does your mod do that too, the max lvl i mean

[austere fox]

no, just cost reduction

I can add an optional file tho

but I'd need to test it because I never tried it

[last horizon]

🤔

Would be nice

Just to try some rindonkulous runs

20 shield chaos

Hades one shot

[austere fox]

I made a mod to equip all 3 aspects at once

[last horizon]

Put it on youtube

Lmao what

[austere fox]

let me get preview

[last horizon]

That would be most interesting on sword

Faster, crits and does cast too?

[austere fox]

https://imgur.com/GX7CeTV

look on left

[last horizon]

Lmao

[fickle yoke]

what does "ease off" means?

[austere fox]

decrease something, usually a burden

[last horizon]

Like ease off on coke

[fickle yoke]

http://prntscr.com/qkftmb

[austere fox]

oh

back off

[last horizon]

Ohh in that context

Yeah slowly back off

[austere fox]

why would you back off tho

[last horizon]

Thats some kinky times

[fickle yoke]

u mean it's like agree or disagree?

[last horizon]

Megs laugh while the whipping sound was playing

[austere fox]

like bang and no bang

[last horizon]

Gave me some very appropriate inappropriate thoughts

[fickle yoke]

да что же ты так долго печатаешь

садюга(

[lament flame]

So with Than would be same scene? Can't wait for it (want the boys to be happy together)

[last horizon]

I dont want to max out thanatos because the prospect of seeing front facing thanatos scares me

[austere fox]

ayyy I found boss arena data

[fickle yoke]

@last horizon smiling Tomatos is creepy yes?

[lament flame]

Front facing Than is 👌

[fickle yoke]

but smiling Meg is ugly imo(

[last horizon]

Didnt expect his face to be that square and wide is all

Smiling meg is better than pouty meg

[austere fox]

I think I know how I'm gonna make endless mode

[last horizon]

Her smile has a lot of older woman sex appeal to it

[lament flame]

Meg always looks good

[austere fox]

gonna back up my whole game before I try tho

[last horizon]

Lol

[fickle yoke]

@austere fox gl with that bud

[last horizon]

Hope it goes well

[fickle yoke]

и вообще к черту гейского Томатоса....

[lament flame]

Нет не к черту

[remote knot]

Thanatos is made of tomatoes

Goodbye

[fickle yoke]

Не говоря о том, что он до недавнего времени считался ему братом.... сводным

[lament flame]

Is this some kind of meme I don't understand???

[fickle yoke]

@lament flame which one?

of Tomatos?

[patent stirrup]

Just got the cutscene for Artemis displaying some awkward liking to Zagreus ... best girl

[lament flame]

@fickle yoke yup

[last horizon]

Dont think artemis likes zag in a romantic way

I dont think shes even allowed to have a lover

[fickle yoke]

it just some dumb joke of some dumb guy

[lament flame]

Okay

[fickle yoke]

@last horizon do u remeber her 1st duo with Aphro?

[last horizon]

No not really

[lament flame]

Artemis is lesbian fight me

[fickle yoke]

she wanted to ask something, but was kinda shy, and when she was ready - Aphro appears and she just calmed down instantly

[remote knot]

Why are we arguing about a gods sexuality? @lament flame

[fickle yoke]

also it's kinda forbidden here

[remote knot]

Also the tomato thing is just me saying wierd "stuff"

[fickle yoke]

moders may be angry

[lament flame]

Um I am not... It is just a bad joke I am sorry

[last horizon]

Artemis is the goddess of chastity thats why she and aphrodite are always at odda

[lament flame]

Don't want to harm anyone I am really sorry

[last horizon]

Odds

Thats also why i dont think she has any romantic feelings for zag nor for anyone

[agile wadi]

i like the portrayals of the gods a lot

reminds me of Overly Sarcastic Productions

needs more Aphro shipping

[last horizon]

I love hades' pettiness the most

And zags sarcasm in response

They're always at odds against each other but it never felt like they hate the other

And I really appreciate that

[opaque hull]

Wait, mods get angry if we talk about sexual orientations wut?

Is it 1820 or 2020?

[lament flame]

I really like how in game portrayed Poseidon, with this water jokes and horses mentions

[fickle yoke]

his beard also looks... like it's not real

[agile wadi]

dionysus is such a chill bro

[lament flame]

@fickle yoke its suits him because he's strange after all

[fickle yoke]

i mean

i thought it will look more proudly

[last horizon]

Whose god do yall wanna see next

Which

[fickle yoke]

i wanted Gefest

but it looks like there is no way(

[last horizon]

I want hephaestus personally

Im surprised the hammers are daedalus'

Not hephaestus hobestly

[fickle yoke]

same 4 me pal

[last horizon]

But it would be all good if he comes as god of fire instead

[agile wadi]

im hoping for Apollo but it looks like we wont get him

[last horizon]

Why not?

Do we have any clue who's planned or whos gonna be the next one in the least?

[fickle yoke]

cus next 99% demeter

[agile wadi]

i thought we were only getting 1 more, or did i mishear?

[fickle yoke]

also it looks like it will be the last

[last horizon]

Oh dang rlly

Is demeter like the father of hades' wife and zags mom

Or am i mistaken

[fast idol]

She's the mother of Persephone I think

[lament flame]

Yeah

[last horizon]

Oh right mother

[fickle yoke]

so it's granny

[fast idol]

wonder if she'll recognize us

[last horizon]

Ah yeah so probably a good chance its her then

[agile wadi]

just feels like having hermes and artemis without even a mention of apollo is like theres something missing

[last horizon]

Why is hades so massive anyway

[fast idol]

he's a big lad

[agile wadi]

eats his wheaties

[last horizon]

But other chtonic gods are just human sized

[haughty carbon]

dad bodd

it's the dad bodd

[last horizon]

Well, hes one hot dad then

Hes more like a daddy

[fast idol]

He's an Olympian

[fickle yoke]

@fast idol who

[fast idol]

Hades

[fickle yoke]

not rly

he is main god

but not olympian

[fast idol]

uh

yes he is

After cleaning up the titans he was the one Olympian who stayed in the underworld to manage it because...i don't know he wanted to clean up I guess

[last horizon]

So are artemis and the like also massive

Or just the three brothers

[fickle yoke]

In ancient Greek religion and mythology, the twelve Olympians are the major deities of the Greek pantheon, commonly considered to be Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Ares, Hephaestus, Aphrodite, Hermes, and either Hestia or Dionysus

[fast idol]

its 12 or 14

[remote knot]

12

Usually

I think

[fast idol]

and @last horizon it's very likely Zeus and Poseidon are massive as well

but the others are probably a bit smaller

[brazen pendant]

What are your guys favorite combos

God combos*

[remote knot]

Merciful end

[fickle yoke]

@brazen pendant Ares/Artemida

Hunting Blades

[remote knot]

Artemis/artemis

[brazen pendant]

Really? I hate the ares boons lol

[remote knot]

Dusa is best character btw

[brazen pendant]

Thanatos begs to differ

[lament flame]

At least Hades was child of Rea and Cronos (like Zeus, Poseidon and Demeter), maybe because of the fact his parents were titans he differs from others. Gens and all that stuff

[remote knot]

D off

[brazen pendant]

Dionysus poison gets pretty wild

[last horizon]

They probably didnt do appolo cause he would have healing stuff

[remote knot]

Na

[fickle yoke]

@last horizon not exactly

he is not only on medicine

[remote knot]

Music sun power plz

[brazen pendant]

I thought Apollo was coming?

[flat oyster]

I hope so

[fickle yoke]

Light

[remote knot]

Maybe

[flat oyster]

But probably Demeter next

[fickle yoke]

@brazen pendant nah it's 99% Demeter

[brazen pendant]

:0

I guess she is kinda important to the story

[haughty carbon]

Also is it just me or I have a feeling the last update will end up with us having to boss rush all the olympic gods or fight the one that we angered/worked with the most during run? Because I seriously get that feeling due to most people warning me in dialogue to not trust Olympics god much and be ready for anything.

[last horizon]

Is there a full releass dtae yet?

[brazen pendant]

Demeter is persephone’s mom right

[haughty carbon]

somewhere mid 2020 I believe

[fickle yoke]

y

[last horizon]

Cause people are claiming that theres only gonna be only 1 new god

[brazen pendant]

Yeah no that one Achilles voice line made me feel like I was gonna have to fight the gods and that made me sad bc I love all their designs 🥺🥺

[austere fox]

alright!

[brazen pendant]

they are super pretty 🥺🥺

[austere fox]

some progress

[fast idol]

I'm assuming during one point in the run you side with one of the gods that gave you a boon

[fickle yoke]

@austere fox in ur mode?

[flat oyster]

Congrats Pony

[last horizon]

Nice

[austere fox]

I can force boss arena to appear after first room

when you drop down

[brazen pendant]

I’m assuming when you can fully friend gods you’ll probably anger the gods that don’t like them

[last horizon]

What would happen if you fated authority it lol

[austere fox]

like it would normally

[brazen pendant]

Can fated authority give you titans blood

[last horizon]

Nope

[austere fox]

but I'm gonna remove the boss encounter and add the endless thing

[last horizon]

It only rerolls from the same pool

Blue laurel and gold laurel

[brazen pendant]

Besides buying it how do you get titans blood after the first 5?

[last horizon]

Blue laurel is meta currency and gold laurel is everything that helps your current run.

Heat

[brazen pendant]

Oh cool

[last horizon]

You get boss rewards for each lvl of heat for each weapon

[fickle yoke]

there are 4 way to get blood

[brazen pendant]

Idk what that means but I’ll trust lol

[fickle yoke]

1st - more heat

[fast idol]

you can also buy it from Sharon

[fickle yoke]

2nd - broker

[brazen pendant]

I wanna max out the exagryph

[fickle yoke]

3rd - last Charon

4th - some prophecies (22 blood here)

[last horizon]

Just exchange your ambrosia into TB xd

Im sure itll be fine

[fickle yoke]

u need ambro too

[fast idol]

I still need a boatload of diamons and I scream

[brazen pendant]

I already exchanged one ambro 😳

[last horizon]

Not early.

You probably are on like atleast run 50 before you use ambrosia

Cause u need to do a lot of talking and gifting

[fickle yoke]

@last horizon well earlier mb

[last horizon]

And even then you only really need like 45 ambrosia to max all keepsakes out

[fickle yoke]

i made a LOT 1-2 heat runs to finish Pact prophecy for 10 blood

[brazen pendant]

I haven’t beaten hades yet sooo

[last horizon]

Reminds me that i havent done that prophecy yet

[brazen pendant]

I’m on like run 20 I think

[last horizon]

Yeah you probably have a long way

Wait dont you only unlock the use of TB after beating hades

[lament flame]

Hell Mod

[brazen pendant]

No you can use it way before that

[last horizon]

Huh i swear i had like 5 tb saved up before i defeated hades

[fickle yoke]

what is tb

[brazen pendant]

Titans blood

[fickle yoke]

u can have blood from furies

with every weapon

[brazen pendant]

I got hades to 1 hit at like run 10 and then missed my final hit and died

[last horizon]

Ik which is why i had 5

But i wasnt able to use them before i defeated hades

[brazen pendant]

Maybe you just didn’t notice ?

I think I’m on normal mode too

[remote knot]

You can

I beat hades with chaos shield

How many runs did it take to beat hades

[brazen pendant]

I hate the shield lol

[last horizon]

Well, i failed at least once on each weapon

[brazen pendant]

I like the spear and exagryph the most and then the bow and the sword but the shield just feels clunky

[last horizon]

And beat him on my 3rd shield run

So atleast 8

[austere fox]

hmm

it's working but camera is locked in the center

[last horizon]

Yeowch

[brazen pendant]

Is it worth using other keepsakes vs Thanatos damage boost

[remote knot]

Only 8 jeez

That's why

[last horizon]

If youre doing thanatos do thanatos all the way imo

Well, what can i say shield is op

[austere fox]

https://imgur.com/JIOEHRz

[last horizon]

Oh the fury room

Nice

No lava

[brazen pendant]

Yeah I’m pretty sure that the reason you couldn’t use titans blood before you beat hades was bc it’s a scripted event after a certain thing happens lol

[last horizon]

Dang sucks

[austere fox]

yeah there's a flag for aspects

[brazen pendant]

Idk what it is but I think you have to do a certain no. Of runs or something

[last horizon]

Im really excited for your mod pony

Hope it goes well

[austere fox]

        AspectsUnlocked = 
        {
            RequiredLifetimeResourcesGainedMin = { SuperLockKeys = 1 },
            RequiredWeaponsUnlocked = { "SwordWeapon", "SpearWeapon", "ShieldWeapon", "BowWeapon", "GunWeapon" },
        },

flag for aspect

have titan blood + unlocked all weapons

@last horizon yeah it's fun to try

but the camera thing really confuses me tbh

[brazen pendant]

What’s the mod do

[last horizon]

Maybe its the room?

What if you changed which room your using

[austere fox]

well if you want endless it gotta be the biggest room

@brazen pendant it intends to be an endless mode

alright figured out the camera thing

[brazen pendant]

Do you like pick a few boons or get a choice of reward after like every round or something or how does it work :0

[austere fox]

it doesn't work at the moment

[brazen pendant]

LOL

good luck

[austere fox]

@last horizon hmm well I think i've done it

I can just make the room loop over itself

so when you exit you re enter it

with a new encounter

that's basically endless right?

[fickle yoke]

so u beat room

get reward

and go same room

?

[austere fox]

y

[fickle yoke]

thats the progress

[austere fox]

there's probably a way to increase wave difficulty with depth

[fickle yoke]

also u can up difficulty with every room?

[austere fox]

that's what I'm wondering

[fickle yoke]

should i save Diamonds for something usefull?

what can i purchase with it now?

or only songs?

[last horizon]

I know this is gonna be a lot of work but what if a singular room, the game still does the acts but it loops around everytime you beat hades

Like risk of rain

[austere fox]

that's the easiest thing ever

[last horizon]

Basically same composition but it loops around everytime you beat hades

Scaling is still gonna be an issue tho

[austere fox]

basically

every room has a list of possible next rooms

boss rooms have a fixed one

so to do what you want I just need to change hade's next possible room

[last horizon]

Maybe just add a tick of forced overtime, jury summons, calisthenics program and the +damage(forget the name) every loop?

I dunno if thats possible tho

But that might be an easy way to do the scaling

Unless game just has str8 up scaling options

But i doubt since its not intended for tartarus enemies to scale up without heat

[austere fox]

honestly it's gonna be super op and probably break stuff once you get too many boons

[last horizon]

Thats true

Then 2 ticks xd lmao

[austere fox]

dunno

[last horizon]

Cause risk of rain 2 does that loop well and its basically just a stat boost to enemies and bosses

[austere fox]

for endless I could make it so the first xx rooms can drop boons and hammers

then none will drop to prevent this

[last horizon]

It still breaks at a certain point tho but the enemies scale up fast

Oh so a boon limit

Might be a interesting idea.

[austere fox]

yeah but not the hades loop, just the single room loop

[remote knot]

What you guys talking about

[last horizon]

Ah fair, does look harder on that version

[austere fox]

modding 😮

[remote knot]

Cool

[last horizon]

Pony is making endless mod

[dry briar]

@austere fox have you had any luck getting the other mirror upgrades do actually function?

[last horizon]

And im tossing some ideas

[austere fox]

which ones?

not sure what you mean

[remote knot]

I think he's talking about modding in mirror stuff

Not sure

[dry briar]

There is one if the code for dash attack for example. I am able to get it to show up in the mirror list and unlock it with keys and put points in. But I can't actually get it to keep the points after leaving the bedroom

[austere fox]

could you tell me which one?

[last horizon]

Oh pony what if you made the equip multiple aspects a part of a mirror upgrade mod 🤔

Make it cost as much as DD or fated authority

[dry briar]

I'm on my phone, so I get too specific, but it's in the script.lua that has the other mirror upgrades and pacts of punishment

[austere fox]

@last horizon maybe once I understand the code better

[dry briar]

I think it's called dashattackmetaupgrade

[last horizon]

Thats fair

Might got some more ideas at that point too

[austere fox]

@dry briar ah, I get it

those are probably upgrades the devs have temporarily disabled

even if you enable them they won't show up because of the UI script

to have them show up you need to edit that too

[last horizon]

Sounds like archived idea. Since dash attack bonus is a chaos boon

[austere fox]

there's a skip = true on those upgrades

[last horizon]

Huh interesting

[dry briar]

I got them to show up in the list

[last horizon]

Tbh i was very happy when I was browsing nexus mods last week and saw hades

[dry briar]

But the points pop out when you leave the room

[last horizon]

Then i was sad because all there was, was a 10x and 100x damage bonus mod.

[dry briar]

I'll probably try and get it to work when I get off work today

[austere fox]

@dry briar that data is not saved

[last horizon]

Now, that sounds fantastic but i thought there was gonna be more mods xd

[austere fox]

my guess is you have to enable it in another file

@last horizon yeah I was surprised to see there was hades

but then only 2 mods

[dry briar]

Yeah, I'm going to poke around a bit more

[austere fox]

but now 3!

[dry briar]

It's been pretty fun. I decided to enable the Hell mode only pact for regular play

[last horizon]

Yeeee

[austere fox]

alright gonna stop here for today

should be good enough for v1.0

[lament flame]

I have 10 runs winstreak WOW can't imagine I can last for so long https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENsj_MEWoAABpPp.jpg

[fickle yoke]

had.... onion for the 1st time(

[pearl plank]

what's the max upgrade level for legendary keepsakes?

er, max uses per run?

[bleak osprey]

5

[pearl plank]

cooool

can you only use them once per encounter?

[lament flame]

Yes

[pearl plank]

word

[lament flame]

And also you can't change them through run even if you used it on maximum. So 1 companion in 1 run

Or legendary keepsakes if you like that term more

[pearl plank]

sweet, that's all good info thanks

now i just gotta remember to use it lol

i've had bouldy equipped for like 10 runs and i don't think i've ever used it intentionally

one time i accidentally used it when i was running away from asterius at like 5hp (i have it bound to left stick press and was just moving the stick to aggressively and accidentally hit it lol) and it actually saved me, pretty good luck lol

[lament flame]

It is always like that with new mechanics and items in game added. You just forgot about it every time

[shy anvil]

does achilles have a special line if you leave with the achilles aspect?

[lament flame]

No

[shy anvil]

thanks

[fickle yoke]

and Hades?

[lament flame]

Nah

@fickle yoke об этом только заикается главный клоун вся Элизиума - Тесей

[fickle yoke]

попробую при случае

[lament flame]

Смешной диалог. Все что делает Тесей смешно

[fickle yoke]

особенно смешно он умирает -_-

мне доставили больше его диалоги если ты приходишь в Нитью Ариадны

[lament flame]

Никогда не пробовала с ней ходить кстати. А надо бы

[fickle yoke]

2й диалог не переведен

он там начинает про саму Ариадну оправдываться

[lament flame]

Ты меня заинтриговал)

[fickle yoke]

go ahead and try

ха

интересный факт

Знаешь Эвридику

если у нее взять 1й дар - она усилит 2 умения

если выйти в меню и зайти обратно и вновь его выбрать - усилятся те же 2 умения

а вот если выйти из игры полностью - выбор уже другой

[lament flame]

Ооо интересно

[fickle yoke]

эту штуку можно неслабо так абузить