Have people written the fluff?
#h1-story-discussion
simple sparrow
visual laurel
simple sparrow
Like, the H/C fluff?
simple sparrow
Than gets overworked to the point of, like, passing out, can't get up, however hard he tries, especially because Zag is making certain that he rests. There's only one bed in the house of Hades, and it's in Zag's room...
visual laurel
i have written things but my anxiety does not let me post stuff that will be contradicted by canon later
merry sorrel
I'll try tomorrow after work, or during break
(oh gosh it's 3am and I need to wake up at 7:30am, I feel like this has been, meta wise, a bit of thanatos [seeking] behaviour-- hypnos defied!)
visual laurel
please go to bed gkjfhgdf
vagrant nova
merry sorrel
I'll probably also have to punch walls in the bathroom to feel manly again after the fic
visual laurel
there's a lot of secret fic floating around
simple sparrow
Thigh, lemme tell you, I understand that impulse, but the sooner you accept that cannon is whatever the hecc you say it is in fanfic, the better
merry sorrel
punch walls to hold back the feels if we want to go gender neutral or punch walls to avoid ovary explosion for femme I guess
bleak osprey
gold blush thanatos is so good
visual laurel
sorry my name is ven,
bleak osprey
hey ven your new name is thigh now
harsh sleet
THIG H
bleak osprey
sorry it’s been government assigned
digital crag
dionasty thigh
simple sparrow
Thigh! Watch your language!
bleak osprey
ven-thigh-diss
simple sparrow
Ven Thigh-agram
simple sparrow
Oh
harsh sleet
visual laurel
venn thigh-agram...
simple sparrow
Fair, I just thought this was a christian minecraft server
simple sparrow
Ah. Makes sense
harsh sleet
we are allowed ONE soft curse
visual laurel
i believe ass is also ok gkdjfgdf wait someone who isn't a mod, say ass
harsh sleet
ass 
visual laurel
yeah there see
simple sparrow
harsh sleet
AKSKRBRBS
simple sparrow
Oh, so there are two...
visual laurel
I LIKE WRITING FIC BUT I JUST WANT TO BE RIGHT
harsh sleet
3 i think piss is allowed 
visual laurel
it's allowed but you have to put money in the pyre piss joke jar
visual laurel
thanks
bleak osprey
that jar has gotta be so full now
visual laurel
ok i have to go bike home now please find a topic and get on it gkjfgdf
harsh sleet
ANYWAY on the topic of thighs i wish i could see the minotaurs thighs in the art bc
bleak osprey
can
simple sparrow
So, is that 3?
bleak osprey
can we make the topic not about thighs
harsh sleet
how crushable am i to the minotaur is an important question
bleak osprey
please
harsh sleet
oh ok 
sorry
digital crag
zag said crap
harsh sleet
gasp
simple sparrow
I'm not sure that... qualifies?
bleak osprey
zag also said bastard.
harsh sleet
GASP
bleak osprey
it’s true!!
harsh sleet
yall sound like thanatos telling on him when he was little
bleak osprey
he says it to meg while talking about the hydra
simple sparrow
I'm calling it at 3, and sticking with it
digital crag
hades said piss off boy
simple sparrow
bleak osprey
hfjfkfkf that post that’s like “he said the b word” “m/////// doesn’t start with a b” “GASP”
simple sparrow
I have one image editing tool, and that is paint
And by gum, I'm not gonna back down because of that
bleak osprey
yeah it was quite startling to go through hades voice lines looking to make an “every time hades says ‘boy’” compilation
and find That Line
harsh sleet
pls,,, thanatos smiling sprite
bleak osprey
i think i photoshopped that once
but i can’t get it right now bc i’m on mobile
also gold blushing thanatos sprite was a thing i did
harsh sleet
that’s good stuff right there
simple sparrow
Has anybody gotten to the 1000 conversations with Hades needed to unlock more info in the codex?
harsh sleet
it’s on the wiki
harsh sleet
what’s something that zagreus would do that would have gotten thanatos just as pissed as he is at zag atm
visual laurel
🤔
harsh sleet
for No Reason in particular
visual laurel
other than slacking off in general
it's so hard to say what their relationship was like before the game...can't even really speculate 
visual laurel
other than that Than implies zag was like
depressed
or at least unmotivated
and part of the reason Than can't bear to get in Zag's way is because he can tell this is really important to Zag, and he's never seen Zag so like...fired up about something
harsh sleet
i’m sick and in a lot of pain but writing zag/than sure as heck is making me feel better 😔
harsh sleet
it’s giving me feels
harsh sleet
i’m outta writing juice 
visual laurel
🇫
maiden wharf
ZAG/THAN? 👀 looking forward to that fic!!
harsh sleet
IF I FINISH IT ;;
i’ve only ever written for one other game before and t wasn’t a ship fic so i’m struggling
i also never posted it anywhere
maiden wharf
that's okay!! im proud of you for finishing!!
i mean
i believe you'll finish it!!
❤
harsh sleet
ty 
i’ve only got the first bit and i’m already deep in the feels
“oh, and Than? Welcome home. We missed you.” 
maiden wharf
harsh sleet
what’s the zag/than ship name bc
rn i’ve got thanreus and idk how good that sounds
zagatos.. 
visual laurel
thagreus? is the most used one but i don't like how it sounds so i've been using thanazag or than/zag
maiden wharf
hmm
harsh sleet
me, bedridden and can barely move: [dragging myself to my compute] d o i t f o r t h a n a t o s
computer* smh
visual laurel
please rest too ;;;
harsh sleet
aaagh i’ve been resting all day i’m tired of laying in bed
harsh sleet
i have an urge to make a thanatos minecraft skin
maiden wharf
why not? ^^
harsh sleet
heck yeah
runic terrace
do it
maiden wharf
that iconic middle part 😩 👌
visual laurel
middle parted bowl undercut
maiden wharf
i was personally attacked by his design
visual laurel
beefy minecraft man mod
maiden wharf
i don’t play minecraft but if i did i would love to give some input ; - ;
harsh sleet
its been a while since i made a skin and
wweew things are different
i cant wait to use this skin
runic terrace
this is where hades bought toys for baby zag
normal talon
hades: did you know how much those toys costed? those things were $7.99 at least!
glad lion
Hey Zag still gets toys from there they're more then worth it
runic terrace
zag: hey cool they have detective witchachu merch
glad lion
Zag: I wonder if lady Artemis would be mad if I traded her boon for this Achilles plush
normal talon
zag gets a detective pikachu hat
hades: tatarus is no place for children, boy.
zag, looking around: are...are you sure?
runic terrace
ACHILLES PLUSH.....
glad lion
I this Artemis would be ok with Zag getting that, she'd probably want her own LOL
normal talon
when zag gets to olympus he brings everyone souvenirs from tartarus
glad lion
Way better then all that ambrosia
Than has to secretly sneak out to Tarta R us with Zag whenever he wants to buy something
He donts want anyone knowing how much he goes there
bleak osprey
the nitpicker in me wants to say that it would make more sense as TART "R" US
lunar kiln
poptartarus
amber canyon
That sounds more like a pieshop than a section of the underworld
atomic forge
Bull plushie... that would be nice reference to Bastion lol
if Bull of Minos would ever Keepsake... let it be that lol
actually it would be nice to see Theseus and Asterius in house of hades
especially since they don't seem to be "unruly" as much as the hydra and rest of cast
native marlin
except they're both already dead, they belong in elysium so they don't go back to the House when they ''die''
normal talon
the last biome is just a bakery titled “tarts ‘r’ us” and it’s hades in a baker’s apron making sugar cookies
bleak osprey
i wish i could give ambrosia to asterius :c
normal talon
nobody knows about hades’ passion for baking
it’s the underworld’s most hidden secret
i wanna give him some tooooo
he seems pretty okay when he’s not trying to kill me
bleak osprey
gfjhkfjg
normal talon
hajdjdhdjjd
sleek cape
Aujwsbhwjwj
maiden wharf
omg yes a redraw would be amazing
high sedge
i would give my left arm for a redraw
digital crag
Vape river
lunar kiln
the greatest kings live on after death in vape nation
tall ingot
spiral saddle
bleak osprey
me
harsh sleet
im tired and ,,, the only thing im thinkin abt is him
visual laurel
mood
(whips out my secret files to make "thanatos tells you to take care of yourself ASMR 10 hours" but for real this time)
glad lion
One day we will all have our dream official Thanatos body pillow
runic terrace
hxmckcmcm
glad lion
make it happen supergiant you have the means
simple sparrow
I mean... If the devs find out it's a hot topic...
runic terrace
HEY WAIT
ZAG SHOULD BUY ANOTHER ACHILLES POSTER AND GIVE IT TO PAT
bleak osprey
HE SHOULD
glad lion
runic terrace
📝
bleak osprey
"well it makes me feel better."
atomic shale
oh wow i should not be in this channel
runic terrace
oh no
simple sparrow
Vlad nooo...!
atomic shale
i mean i dont understand that much anyways
i know thanatos is the god of death but that's abou tit
glad lion
He is also our precious tsundere
atomic shale
ah alright then
onyx needle
Has anyone here ever actually googled/wikied Zagreus? It is pretty interesting if bare bones.
solar depot
disappointed but never a disappointment 
high sedge
my pat-ro-clus
drifting citrus
zag, the greatest of all gods who may or may not actually be also dionysus
solar depot
that pointing spiderman meme but it's zag and dio
harsh sleet
if there was a thanatos body pillow i’d buy it and my parents would be so concerned
runic terrace
you buy the thanny pillow
you excitedly run up to the mail truck
the package falls out and hits you
death approaches
harsh sleet
the body pillow has a sound box that whispers “omae wa mou shindeiru”
runic terrace
in the underworld we dont say i love you we say omae wa mou shinderu amd i think thats beautiful
amber canyon
Yknow I wonder
If the people of the underworld want to get to Tartarus from Elysium
Do they just jump off a cliff because its faster?
west moat
I think that would annoy Hades. and he can certainly make your life hell if provoked.
glad lion
worse make you work for the rest of your afterlife
amber canyon
Just refuse
glad lion
I mean he's a god im sure he has his ways? and sisyphus gets tortured by the furies right?
amber canyon
Just be a masochist
glad lion
i wonder what he would do about that lol
digital crag
joke's on you you're just gonna stand in some water and be really thirsty
quick rapids
I love sisyphus
glad lion
oh yeah... he has those kinds of punishments
quick rapids
"yeah, I'm stuck rolling this Boulder forever, but, yknow, it's a living. Or a dying rather"
digital crag
hades knows what you're into so your punishment is appropriately terrible for you
amber canyon
Plenty of people are used to always being thirsty
quick rapids
Lmfao
solar depot
thanny body pillow... every morning your dreams go POF
visual laurel
fhskfhdj like in a cartoon
quick rapids
I support my gay tsundere child
merry sorrel
holy cow 150+ new messages since yesterday
how many of that are people thirsting over than
visual laurel
as many as necessary
merry sorrel
regarding zagreus though, he was only mentioned directly once in orphic hymn and indirectly once as persephone, mother of zagreus, but he was mentioned relatively frequently in Dionysiaca
and that's also where Megaera came into play, she was assigned by jealous Hera as punisher of mother and son
Dionysiaca claims that there are two Dionysus, our party boi and Zagreus
I have not found where Than comes into play though, or if the Zagreus getting torn apart by the Titans bit from Fabulae is going to happen
I did, however, find fanfic inspiration for that hurt comfort fic...
digital crag
tbh i think sgg zagreus is just continuing the hades and persephone goth fankid tradition
shy glade
isnt that like the permanent mood here 😂
bleak osprey
listen, every time iw alk into a chamber and the screen goes all greenish i gasp out loud and i'm immediately like MY BOY
death approaches nah, my BOY approaches
bleak osprey
i'm so pleased they managed to fit him in............
shy glade
than: u miss me?
me: YES????
bleak osprey
ALWAYS,,
i wasn't even mad when he showed up in elysium last time i was just happy to see him,,
harsh sleet
press E to smooch than
harsh sleet
^^ thanatos army rise up
stark tulip
I love than but also he kills me every time because I tunnel SO HARD on killing enemies Very Fast
harsh sleet
ive never died in a than room
frozen jolt
i have once, i think
harsh sleet
but for the emotional value i might have to
stark tulip
I die out of game when I see him;;;
bleak osprey
stark tulip
SAME
harsh sleet
UGJKDFFG
normal talon
ME
visual laurel
called out
harsh sleet
thanatos: zagreus.
us: oh! a boyfriend.
harsh sleet
im never gonna shut up abt him,,,, i love him
onyx spoke
I die on a hill for dusa gang
bleak osprey
one of the best thanatos lines
maiden wharf
VERTY VERY GOOD
lunar kiln
-the 9 yr-old roasting me in tf2
harsh sleet
fr everytime im like "I DIDNT MEAN TO!!"
bleak osprey
it's even worse when your build revolves around, say, zeus lightning or ares cast or whatever
so you can't HELP hitting him
maiden wharf
RIGHT!!!! RIGHT!!!!!!!!
harsh sleet
my personal favourite is"not me, idiot"
lunar kiln
i'm not sure but if he gets hit by one of the elysium traps he'll blame you for it
maiden wharf
really? well dang
harsh sleet
he just wants to blame zag for anything
lunar kiln
i'm certain he was mad at me even though i was just standing in a corner like
bleak osprey
@harsh sleet a gift for you
lunar kiln
there's one line of his thats literally "you are already dead"
bleak osprey
doubt.jpg
harsh sleet
omae wa mou shindeiru
bleak osprey
aha, no, i forgot to search in all, not just in opened
while i'm out here giving gifts
maiden wharf
thank you based sparrow
bleak osprey
i don't wanna punch him!
shy glade
than needs some hug 😔
visual laurel
i wanna punch him...in the face......with my face
maiden wharf
very tenderly....
harsh sleet
ok kinda mood
lunar kiln
my favorite character is the intercom
bleak osprey
hfgdkjf
lunar kiln
sjghsj i like the idea of hades tapping his mic being like "testing, 1-2 1-2 1-2"
bleak osprey
i should really put that folder in hades' folder bc it's just his voiceover for during a run
lunar kiln
"GET HIM"
bleak osprey
like the that hydra had aFAMILY
shy glade
tisi tho
bleak osprey
which, btw, i finally got the other day and i just couldn't stop laughing
shy glade
tisi saying murder asmr
bleak osprey
he just sounds so distraught
maiden wharf
sparrow ur so valid
bleak osprey
listen, last time around i marked hedwyn's folder with a heart
now i have more hearts to go around
digital crag
baby hydras running around the lava
dark mural
Finally got my first clear of Elysium
Bow with Power Shot and Double Shot is super fun
Especially with Artemis’s Attack and Dash attack
Easy 1600 per power shots that crit
And one shotting any shield with less than 800 health
atomic forge
Especially with Artemis’s Attack and Dash attack```
I personally favor Athena or Aphrodite's attack, but otherwise that's literally my favorite build in the game.I know that a lot of people like Poseidon's attack on Bow, or his special on Spear, but I feel like poking with knockback just makes the game really slow and boring to me.
dark mural
I prefer the ability to make sure everything is super dead
But I was banking on Athena attack as a secondary
Plus I like Poseidon special cause you can basically cheese asphodel with it
If not Poseidon then Athena
west moat
...what's up with the minotaur miniboss fight? like... I'm pretty sure there was something I was missing because half the time I wasn't doing damage to him, even with damage numbers popping up.
frozen jolt
hes pretty beefy, is your damage low or is it just straight up No Damage as in a bug
west moat
like, his healthbar wasn't moving no damage. I couldn't tell if it was a bug since the statues seemed to still do damage so... probably a bug?
lunar kiln
""he's pretty beefy"
frozen jolt
listen he IS
and couldve been, you can report bugs with F10 in game so if it happens again please report it !
amber canyon
Hes what, 15k hp now?
west moat
that is beefy.
hasty cairn
Just beat theseus/minotaur with a Adamant Rail crit special build!
visual laurel
sweet! good job!!
hasty cairn
I stocked up <4 extra lives for that fight and used all but one. Shoutout to Festive Fog to help keep my targets slow enough to be hit with the bombs!
atomic shale
isnt festive fog the bomb
livid kiln
it blows man
simple sparrow
Adamant rail, I'd assume
atomic shale
yea
atomic shale
i really cant wait for the dionysus special and triple bomb on rail
or ares
or zeis
digital crag
yeah that's fun
my best build was triple bomb with dionysus special and cast
aka "i'm the skeleton bomber now"
west moat
in trials of the gods, is either god 'more likely' to have rarer boons? ie, if you pick one will the other, angered one have more/less rare boons than the first?
visual laurel
Don't think so
west moat
praise ares.
muted talon
Sooooo, I finally unlocked some more story from Achilles, basically he went all, "sorry but my heart belongs to another" and am I misreading things but was Zag a little disappointed when he responded?
this also probably why he keeps namedropping Herakles
🤔
bleak osprey
zag is bi, babey!!!
visual laurel
zag definitely probably had a bit of a crush, yeah
muted talon
insert 'themoreyouknoooow.gif'
runic terrace
yeaaaaah!!
quick rapids
zag bicon
muted talon
also, I recall reading somewhere that there's one Olympian left to add? Did they mention who they were gonna add?
bleak osprey
zag, looking at his poster of aphrodite: hm. wonder if she'd sign this?
zag, looking at his poster of achilles: 
achilles must have been incredible back when he was alive
quick rapids
there are SO MANY people with crushes on achilles
Artemis fangirls over him constantly
muted talon
I was thinking Apollo but maybe Demeter makes more sense considering she's Zag's grandmother.
bleak osprey
artemis's whole thing is that she doesn't do romance, though
quick rapids
half her lines are like "oh my me you know achilles??? tell him i think he's amazing"
touche
muted talon
Artemis is the goddess of chastity after all
sick grove
Arotemis
west moat
i'm rather hoping for Hestia myself.
bleak osprey
bleak osprey
i love how much zag hesitates when he's doin the Soft Talking
onyx spoke
did the "victory death" recently change to "Is There No Escape?" or have I just been blind this whole time
onyx spoke
ah ok
quick rapids
|| https://i.imgur.com/fjsifyW.jpg || AH??
quick rapids
the entire conversation is just OW
void sedge
me with all of this reccent talk about zagreus having a bit of a crush on achilles with that on voice line, now this: 
just wanna give the guy a hug now is that too hard too ask?
harsh sleet
THAT VOICE LINE
it’s 4 am i’m emotionally vulnerable and do Not want to be attacked like this
bleak osprey
mood, right down to the time
;3; unfortunately i am Always emotionally vulnerable where supergiant is concerned
visual laurel
zag like "i know i'm giving alcohol to a problem drinker but please don't overindulge, sir,"
bleak osprey
god. this isn't the only place where darren's voice Does A Thing and i cry about it
hey ven remember "i don't want anything to happen"
visual laurel
like aaaaalllll of his convos with than are Like That
which is why they're so deadly
bleak osprey
AND YEAH
bleak osprey
times zag uses The Soft Voice™ : certain achilles conversations, literally everything he says to thanatos, basically nowhere else
quick rapids
I was destroyed the first time i got a thanatos encounter and he called him than
like y o w z a
visual laurel
thanatos: angry
zag: extremely soft
us: oh there's some history here,
bleak osprey
what's worse: when zagreus calls thanatos "than" or when thanatos calls zagreus "zag", FIGHT
visual laurel
when than calls zagreus "zag" because it signals that even if he sounds irritated it's in a, like, ~close~ way
quick rapids
than hit me more cuz like, everybody calls zagreus zag, it means more when than does it obvs but when this is like, the ONLY PERSON zag gives a nickname to its a a a a
visual laurel
if he was really mad he'd say zagreus
bleak osprey
plot twist it's actually the let's go home line from than
quick rapids
harsh sleet
hades: stop distracting thanatos from his job
zagreus: ok but you’re missing information
hades: what information
zagreus: i love him
quick rapids
|| https://i.imgur.com/eq78nt9.png || like ig ot this one and just GHDKKLGH
"without so much as telling me goodbye" IM MELTING
bleak osprey
i should basically just admit at this point that mr. saphire owns my entire soul
harsh sleet
me
visual laurel
yeah sparrow you've been in deep for like two years
bleak osprey
i HAVE
harsh sleet
AHAHAHDVFB
bleak osprey
and i HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN
visual laurel
the entire supergiant crew came after your soul specifically with thanatos
bleak osprey
me, in france, unsuspecting: hey tell me something non-spoilery about thanatos, i won't get to enjoy the update for a few days until i get home!
ven, like the monster that she is: oh, i think you'll like his voice :)
i will never forgive
and yes, yes they did
visual laurel
😦
bleak osprey
yEAH
quick rapids
;w;
bleak osprey
basically All of the voice lines he has for zagreus dying/deathdefying are painful
visual laurel
quick rapids
oh my god
i didn't even think about lines he would have if you die in the room with him
im going to implode
visual laurel
quick rapids
hhjgkdf
visual laurel
thanatos tells you to take care of yourself asmr 10 hours
visual laurel
that's his secret, luna
bleak osprey
and death defies..........
quick rapids
OMG
bleak osprey
nobody in this chat is ever not sad about thanatos
quick rapids
I loved him when i saw him in the update screen because scythe, and then i heard his lines and now im destroyed
visual laurel
thanatos is a complicated but good-hearted boy
bleak osprey
i distinctly remember booting up the mdk update the first time, hearing his voice line on the menu, and sprinting into ven's dms to scream
quick rapids
harsh sleet
yall rlly want me dead don’t u
bleak osprey
i think it's very telling that i dug up those edits and was immediately like "hm syd would like this"
bleak osprey
i kinda want to edit the cropped versions back onto his full sprite now
for Authenticity
merry sorrel
how do we render an equivalent of than's, eh, exposure to a modern hoodie?
the, um, under arm exposure
visual laurel
off the shoulder oversized sweater
obviously
alternatively: crop top
move the exposure somewhere else gkfjgfd
quick rapids
lolllll
merry sorrel
but off the shoulder oversized sweater sounds awful like, what was it called it exactly, back when girls wanted to wear men clothing and the fashion industry misunderstood and made those baggy clothing without the pockets the girls wanted
was it called boyfriend style or boyfriend cut again
visual laurel
aw
i really like off the shoulder stuff gkjfdgfd
merry sorrel
I wasn't complaining, I was trying to find the right term so I could google references
visual laurel
they only make oversized sweaters for women, sigh
merry sorrel
like brave enough gay men was ever stopped by that limitation
visual laurel
i mean
extremely true i just feel bad for these dudes in these "oversized" sweaters that are just like, normal sweaters with no coze factor at all
merry sorrel
first, we convince the british guys to dress like that, the world will follow
especially, can we convince brian gilbert
visual laurel
anyways yeah one of those oversized sweaters with a really wide neckline would be my guess
or a crop top gdfkjgf
visual laurel
oh my god????
merry sorrel
considering than he could be wearing this but
quick rapids
|| https://i.imgur.com/Xw0gv2G.png || ;-;;;;;;
digital crag
than in the nip zipper shirt
quick rapids
|| https://i.imgur.com/tOV9rsh.png || I DONT WANNA CLICK NEXT
visual laurel
click it
quick rapids
I DON WANNA ;w;;;
merry sorrel
I sure hope Achilles is voice acted
quick rapids
everyone is
merry sorrel
if just to make this scene stop everybody's heart harder
quick rapids
hgjhjhhhhghjjh
the way his voice catches when he says "is he alright" || https://i.imgur.com/0z9YRQl.png ||
quick rapids
|| https://i.imgur.com/52LmxDi.png || goddddddddd
visual laurel
fun fact
there's a different version of this convo if you already know who patroclus is
but this version hurts way worse imo
rapid zinc
✊ 😢
merry sorrel
can we bring them back together
digital crag
open your window
visual laurel
I Just Want To Talk, Greg
visual laurel
i don't think he's gonna answer questions about future story content lol
digital crag
"you'll just have to wait and see!"
visual laurel
he barely answers questions about current story content
that's how he is gkjdfgfd
anyways i thoroughly believe we'll be able to get them back together
digital crag
you're playing in dangerous territory, gregory
okay, that's a little too ominous for saying in public
merry sorrel
beside, I told a bunch of people "you should play hades because it's supergiant games and achilles is in there"
visual laurel
hahahahaha
visual laurel
bringing up family at all when you live in greek myth is a double-edged own
steady flint
Hey guys. I'm a little disappointed right now. I got to Theseus holding Yarn of Ariadne in my inventory, but there was no extra dialogue about it. D:
neat crow
Have you reached Theseus previously?
neat crow
It could be that there was another contextual event that took priority
vagrant nova
"No urns permitted in this chamber" I guess they haven't... urned their place
steady flint
Well. It was some casual chatting about the "Fiend" and all the Theseus and Minos being good and Zagreus being a bad character.
I actually thought that they could make so that Yarn makes him heartbroken or something. + like 10-15% dmg to his healthbar. Wouldn't make much of a difference.
neat crow
Do you remember the exact wording, or a portion of the wording? I'm trying to determine what priority event would have overtaken the yarn one
steady flint
I'll make you a clip. W8 a minute)
Oh, it was a talk about gods.
Helping both Theseus and Zagreus.
jovial flare
Hi everyone, I just defeated Theseus and Minus for the first time and when I talked to Hades a weird dialogue about the Hydra and the renovations, I think It was the dialogue before the Elysium patch. (I have killed Hydra already many times)
neat crow
Please report out of place dialog in-game with F10 when you come across it
jovial flare
Ok, thank you :)
steady flint
Here. You can see Yarn at the start of the clip. And the dialogue is just about gods. https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantWisePoultryWow
neat crow
This is the line you're referring to, Tian?
God-hated? You'll have to be more specific. I have the gods on my side. Though I suppose you do, too. Why can't they make up their minds?
steady flint
Exactly
neat crow
The scripting isn't 100% clear, but it appears to have given priority to the 5th encounter dialog over the Yarn dialog. I couldn't see any code that would pick one over the other, so I presume there's some internal selection going when 2 lines are viable
steady flint
So there is a Yarn dialog? I just thought it would pick it as a top priority.
neat crow
There is a Yarn dialog, yes. Seems you just got unlucky that time
neat crow
There's a lot to uncover, for sure!
visual laurel
yeah, I think he has to run out his "meeting" dialogues and get into generics before he'll comment
unlike Patroclus, whose item dialogue takes priority
unless it's your first meeting...i think
those conditionals are wild
i haven't tried to untangle them
neat crow
I'm not so sure about that, honestly, since the requirements for the Yarn are only to have gotten through the first Theseus Encounter dialog
visual laurel
🤔 i definitely didn't get it even though i was on a later dialogue though
neat crow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
bleak osprey
i assume it’s something similar to how some people don’t get the codex from achilles right away even though they meet the requirements
harsh sleet
anything to do with patroclus and achilles breaks my heart
bleak osprey
oh no his codex entry ;3;
harsh sleet
i haven’t ,,,,
visual laurel
👀
harsh sleet
i haven’t seen him enough
visual laurel
it does take a hot second gkdfjgfd
harsh sleet
i’m scared dudes
if i managed to do it so quickly with thanatos i can do it with pat
visual laurel
😤
harsh sleet
me: [knows i gotta finish that zag/than i started]
also me: [pretends it doesn’t exist]
maiden wharf
you can do it syd! but don't pressure yourself too hard okay? ^^
pallid glade
It was already bought up earlier, but sad boyfriends is killing me rn
visual laurel
we are all sad about patroclus and achilles
shy glade
the 2 moods:
sad about patrochilles
loving thanatos
visual laurel
there are only two moods
contained within those moods is the entire spectrum of human emotions gdkfhgfd
pallid glade
That's the truth
spring scaffold
You're mistaken. The second mood is "loving Hypnos".
harsh sleet
the hypnos and thanatos divide
maiden wharf
we have two hands
runic terrace
🤝 
🤝 
maiden wharf
that's the stuff right there ✊ 😩
livid kiln
i think its time for north korea to blow us all up
maiden wharf
that's perfectly valid
harsh sleet
ty,,, i get the feeling u might like hypnos a little
runic terrace
me when hypnos is sad: pick ur head up king ur clown nose is falling
harsh sleet
KAM FGDJGHKFD
lunar kiln
me when theseus is mad: pick your head up king your fake tan is showing
runic terrace
me when orpheus is sad: pick your head up k- oh no. oh im so sorry
harsh sleet
FHDSJGKFDSG
runic terrace
pick ur head up king its on the floor the maenads are playing soccer with it
rapid zinc
Me @ Dusa: Pick up your head queen your- oh no oh Gods I'm so sorry
lunar kiln
hypnos when he hears zag emerging from the pool of styx https://i.imgur.com/Wto5PPE.jpg
frozen jolt
EKJEHRFKWSJK
runic terrace
HFVHJFJFJHFHJ
marsh prawn
Nobody has taken any respect hypnos juice today
runic terrace
sleepytime tea
marsh prawn
Chamomile tea
runic terrace
im going to make myself some actually brb hkgjkgkj
shrewd arrow
can someone send me the hades roadmap
whats coming up next
im asking because I think my roadmap button is glitched
runic terrace
hey respecting hyp juice im drinkin some chamomile tea thanks for the suggestion
ahhhh
does that count as a reportable bug actually?
marsh prawn
You’re welcome 😌
lunar kiln
presumably new god next month
livid kiln
what happens if you win to thanatos
i just died to him whilst i was ahead
and am too salty
and i just got a convo between than and hades
that proves my bloody point
hades is a good guy
strict and stern
buit good
bleak osprey
i'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one tbh
lunar kiln
he gives you a centaur heart if you beat him
harsh sleet
hades is,,, in no way a good guy
livid kiln
if i had to give hades an alignment i'd give him Lawful Neutral
he gets the job done, he wants the job to be done properly
he's not the nicest person out there
but he's not a hypocrite like the olmpians who mess with people's lives
harsh sleet
bleak osprey
points at the way hades treats literally everybody around him
pallid glade
#Hadesdidnothingwrong
lunar kiln
no!!!! no!!!!!!!
livid kiln
#HadesDidNothingWrong
bleak osprey
#HadesDoesEverythingWrong
pallid glade
Hades isn't nice but he isn't bad
livid kiln
y'all are looking for somebody to antagonise, but how is he worst than ares
who led achilles to his death
bleak osprey
oh my god
livid kiln
and who loves to see pain be wrought everywhere
lunar kiln
all the gods are garbage
bleak osprey
points at the remembrances
points at every conversation hades has ever had with zagreus
livid kiln
zagreus is ungrateful. he's born with everything, he's had the best swordsmaster, the entire kingdom of the dead at his feet, a loyal dog and a whole palace once his dad dies or passes it away
you can understand hades' frustration at his own heir
bleak osprey
i really can't
livid kiln
shunning everything he built
bleak osprey
no, okay, it's not frustration
frustration is "man, my son won't pick up stuff in his room after i've asked him to"
lunar kiln
hades literally doesnt see him as anything other than his heir
if zag does so much as having a different opinion about things he'll at best shame him for it
livid kiln
i'm a sucker for dad redemption stories tbf
pallid glade
^
livid kiln
but i would like to see zagreus understanding his place in the general cosmology, and hades start softening up to his son
lunar kiln
he literally physically abuses his son lmao
livid kiln
see some development in the unyielding god of the dead
harsh sleet
i m,, confused bc,,, like one of the main points of the game is that hades is an awful dad
livid kiln
that'd be a cool part
it is, but stories develop throughout their course
it could go of two ways
one is zag kills his father
bleak osprey
hades has called zag a weakling, an oaf, a "witless, careless brat", and an aberration
livid kiln
the other is hades warms up to zagreus'
harsh sleet
ngl i think this is the worst take of 2019
onyx spoke
supergiant hasn't ever had an antagonist who doesn't have some justification for their actions yet, I wouldn't be surprised if we learn more once they actually unlock hades' codex
bleak osprey
and where..... exactly would hades go if he was killed, arthur
livid kiln
oblivion
bleak osprey
hint: he's already there
pallid glade
inb4 chaos eats Hades
bleak osprey
source?
livid kiln
anyway, i don't think hades is a good father; but i do think he's a good ruler
lunar kiln
that's a slightly better take
harsh sleet
'percy jackson'
ah.
livid kiln
he cares for his people, he cares for thanatos and hypnos
he has a way things are run
bleak osprey
he cares for hypnos
harsh sleet
he cares for thanatos only i think is more accurate
bleak osprey
🤣
harsh sleet
and he cares for thanatos bc thanatos is the son he wishes he had
livid kiln
i'm interested in seeing how zagreus and hades' relationship went so badly
becausea child will always want to please their parent
it's second nature
lunar kiln
it was always bad to begin with
harsh sleet
Yeah im sure he tried but hades Sucks
livid kiln
here's how i think it went down
pallid glade
Someone slap a "Hades Lover" role on me and banish me to the pits of tartarus
vivid coral
bleak osprey
cool story still abuse
harsh sleet
persephone left for a reason tho,,,
bleak osprey
also please don't try and dodge proxy
harsh sleet
im getting awful flashbacks to bnha,,,,
bleak osprey
yeah bnha didn't do it very well either
lunar kiln
page 0
harsh sleet
oh no
livid kiln
around chapter 210
lunar kiln
offtopic for bnha talk please
livid kiln
aye captain
runic terrace
arthur, please don't dodge the bot by starring out words as well
livid kiln
will do
bleak osprey
alright, i'm outta this one, have fun
harsh sleet
yeah im ,,, done w this conversation lol
vivid coral
I was wondering what was meant by proxy lol. Never heard that word used for meaning the filter before.
harsh sleet
thats what the bot is called ^^
vivid coral
Oh, that's why.
ruby tide
Hello everyone, just got the game
A question: Why do the Olympians call Zagreus a half-god?
Even if they believe that Nyx is his mother, she still is a proper deity.
lunar kiln
probably bc he's like a Baby by god standards
pallid glade
large baboo
ruby tide
makes sense
lunar kiln
when you call your small lost relative a nickname that has a much deeper meaning than you imagine
bleak osprey
i figured it was because from the olympian's perspective, nyx isn't a 'real' god like they are
also because he smal
vivid coral
smol boyo
lunar kiln
nyx: i am the primordial goddess of the night. i am most likely more powerful than any of you
the olympians: you're fake
ruby tide
if anything the Olympians are lower in rank than Nyx since she was born directly from Chaos
pallid glade
but the Olympians are Like That
onyx spoke
olympians are classist
livid kiln
the worst room composition:
skullomat + numbskull + witches + pests
with a +200% spawn rate
using a spear on a no boon run
or at least trying not to have a boon
pallid glade
RIP
livid kiln
and all of them have armor*
pallid glade
good lord
somber cobalt
How do I get the flaming skulls to unlock the thing under the sheet in the weapon room? I thought they were the normal sculls, but I have tons of those and it won't unlock.
bleak osprey
you have to complete a full run of the game with that much heat active in the pact
harsh sleet
to get the statues do u have to do the run with the exact amount of heat or can u go over
bleak osprey
you can go over, but you can only unlock one statue at a time afaik
harsh sleet
west moat
aaaaaaa https://i.imgur.com/6gAGhQC.jpg
honest coral
aaaaa he has a glorious beard
bleak osprey
clutches heart gently
it truly is a glorious beard
honestly i just really love patroclus's design in general
bleak osprey
please smooch. my heart cannot handle them being apart.
limber sage
😭
limber sage
LOL
hallow oasis
OH NO PATROCLES IS HOT
west moat
achilles! where are you! I need to tell you something!
visual laurel
aaaaa i hate when i have message from pat and achilles isn't there
bleak osprey
also he has the same headband achilles does, but with laurels
visual laurel
i mean they're generally wearing the same stuff
myrmidon uniform
boyfriend outfit
bleak osprey
shhh ven let me dream
visual laurel
except pat has armor and achilles doesn't
rapid zinc
Who doesn't love a man in (Myrmidon) uniform?
tardy cedar
what if we start a story chain where patroclus and achilles write messages to each other in the codex and zag is the messenger
digital crag
his eyes are Soulful
visual laurel
zag's already basically carrying love letters
i wonder if the codex can even be Written In
given what achilles says abt its content
tardy cedar
love breaks all barriers
digital crag
it can be unlocked by Love
harsh sleet
zag on thans page: hes kinda cute tho
digital crag
yeah!!
bleak osprey
zag, doodling hearts around the edges of various pages
bleak osprey
hades' picture has stink lines coming off of it
harsh sleet
zag: [drops the codex open on a page where hes doodled hearts]
zag: i-I CAN EXPLAIN
hallow oasis
I JUST got his reveal in game and I just akghakhgkhaa
He actually looks Greek and that makes me really really happy
That said I sort of hope they go for a Hadestown aesthetic for Orpheus because I kind of love his "Boy ain't right" look
visual laurel
the iliad makes a big deal of achilles' glorious mane so that one i understand but theseus....theseus bleaches his hair im sorry
his tan? fake
his hair? fake
his theatrics? hammy
me? my feet are on fire
digital crag
his shield, wack
atomic shale
his second stage, wack
digital crag
the way that he summons the favor of the gods, wack
bleak osprey
okay but this is the best orpheus look and it's how i'm headcanoning him until he gets his actual art https://twitter.com/luciusg_dean/status/1108441825193414656
atomic shale
he loosk like his voice
digital crag
orpheus is a bicon
atomic shale
looks*
honest coral
neat tendon
I wasted ambrosia on Hades smh Bruh didn't even give me anything
visual laurel
hades taking ur stuff and then berating you for being considerate is very in-character
neat tendon
Idk what I expected, I truly played myself
sick grove
I don't know if this has been done yet but I've learned my lesson about not looking back
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551540717298647061/579807454208983048/oopsthiswasamistake.png
onyx spoke
orpheus but he's wearing wrangler jeans
runic terrace
jorpheus
pine spade
where in can found patroculus ?
visual laurel
Patroclus is in an npc room in elysium, usually 3-4 chambers before the bosses
the icon is the same as sisyphus'
whether the room shows up or not is RNG but I usually get it
pine spade
u mean a ! ?
visual laurel
yeah
visual laurel
yeah...RNG isn't always kind
pine spade
except if u start with a good cast xD
quick rapids
|| https://i.imgur.com/WrJWip8.png || ;w;;;;;
drifting citrus
😢
visual laurel
:((((
cold canopy
yum
muted talon
Anyways, I did some background reading on Zagreus and by some accounts, he was the predecessor to Dionysius, Dio being his 'reincarnation' after his first death.
rapid zinc
||This actually comes up in story||
muted talon
Nice, I was wondering! I should probably give the gods ambrosia since that's probably how it comes up.
I kept giving it to Achilles and Patroclus.
😛
visual laurel
and you are valid for that
tardy cedar
I keep trying to give more to Dusa but the game doesnt let me for some reason 
neat crow
Dusa's giving you that stony reception
rapid zinc
She literally can't hold all of the bottles you're giving her
cunning needle
she only has so many snakes
dark mural
Can you still get Legendaries?
neat crow
Yes
dark mural
Or are they officially gone? Cause I haven’t seen them in forever, especially the weaker ones which imo were super fun
Okay thanks
Guess I’ll just keep hoping to try ares and Dionysus legendary
neat crow
Dio is one of the harder ones to get
But it's all a matter of getting the prerequisite boons and then a little luck with RNG
limber sage
I think I've seen a legendary boon once, maybe twice?
I guess I'm just unlucky, lol.
neat crow
Again, it's not really that much luck, aside from finding the prerequisite boons
The prereqs are listed on the wiki, if you're not familiar with what they are
Just look under each god's page
limber sage
Alright.
cunning needle
one time i got five athena boons in a row and she kept refusing to give me her legendary...
limber sage
Yeah, I'm looking at these now and with every god I've been in a position to potentially see one of these.
But have only actually come across Zeus'. (Which was pretty meh.)
Dio's sounds amazing, tho.
dawn ore
Hmmm...
In one of the Hades cutscenes he tells Zagreus that Meg will accelerate his process of becoming a "man"
Huhuhu
tardy cedar
its hinted pretty heavily they used to be in a relationship
dawn ore
Used to... wish it was still ongoing lol
harsh sleet
this server is divided into 4 factions,,,,,,,
thanatos, meg, dusa and the ones who dont care abt romance
rapid zinc
Guess I'm 5th party then (Sisyphus)
runic terrace
thats my secret cap...im always thinking about sisyphus
west moat
wow I really love the comments zag makes - "Time for Tisiphone maybe?" "I knew it."
it's just really satisfying to have a roguelike like this, where there's actual continuity between runs
runic terrace
tisi tiiime
dawn ore
And Here I am struggling to get out of Tartarus at 120 heat
Probably because I made a goal to myself to get through Tartarus without taking damage, reseting the run everytime I get hit
lunar kiln
me
tardy cedar
its funny i both want to learn more and i dont want to learn more at the same time about the lore
if that makes any sense
merry sorrel
can we romance Asterius
rapid zinc
Not yet
digital crag
I want to ride the bull
visual laurel
(dragon age inquisition flashbacks)
digital crag
Same hat
visual laurel
see i censored myself
a little bit
don't make me 
anyways gkjfgd there is no indication at this point that we'll be able to date asterius, assuming that was a serious question
like the other furies we can't even gift him
sigh
merry sorrel
we can gift meg
visual laurel
"other" furies
merry sorrel
it would be boring if we can only gift 1 out of 3 furies in the finished game
if we can even gift hypnos
visual laurel
¯_(ツ)_/¯
SGG's gotta draw a line somewhere
they can't necessarily build full convo trees for every single character
digital crag
We can gift cerberus which I find hilarious
visual laurel
gotta love the dog
merry sorrel
if we cannot gift cerberus something is wrong with this timeline
rapid zinc
And the dog loves you back!
digital crag
You're giving booze to the dog
digital crag
Does zag uncork the bottle and pour it in a dog bowl for cerb
visual laurel
yes
digital crag
Or just throw the whole bottle in his mouth
visual laurel
merry sorrel
knowing zag, bowl
yet, the first time you gift, cerberus accepts gift with one head and hands over the spiked collar with another head
visual laurel
cerberus is hiding opposable thumbs on his paws
cerberus begs somebody else to open the bottle until they do
nobody can say no to huge puppy dog eyes
upper vigil
he just eats the Whole Bottle
visual laurel
crunch
west moat
cronch
digital crag
Cronch
digital crag
He's clifford
west moat
he could have more spots. and have both these things.
visual laurel
a serpent for a tail, and snakes protruding from parts of his body hey sgg where are cerb's snakes
and Cerberus was the brother of three other multi-headed monsters, the multi-snake-headed Lernaean Hydra hello???
digital crag
Or you could be like the guy who claimed cerberus was just three well coordinated dogs
Was it herodotus
I bet it was herodotus
visual laurel
nobody actually knows what cerb's name means
digital crag
Family drama bring messages from hydra to cerb
visual laurel
Though probably not Greek, Greek etymologies for Cerberus have been offered. An etymology given by Servius (the late-fourth-century commentator on Virgil)—but rejected by Ogden—derives Cerberus from the Greek word creoboros meaning "flesh-devouring". Another suggested etymology derives Cerberus from "Ker berethrou", meaning "evil of the pit".```so is hydra thandere or
digital crag
They haven't forgiven each other since ... the war
merry sorrel
warning: do not google image garmr
visual laurel
wasn't planning to
merry sorrel
good, though if people here have a certain fetish, then do google away
digital crag
ew
digital crag
Anyways
digital crag
Yeah cause it died
west moat
like