#h1-story-discussion

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timid mirage
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Not every boss is to the death I hope lolz

runic terrace
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you fight cerberus and win and when you die you go back thru the blood pool and hes waiting there for you
the watchdog affectionately licks your face, to assure you that all is well between the two of you.

lunar kiln
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oh no i got better

slow star
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Apparently poms are exclusive to the underworld too

uncut sail
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Btw does chaos give a legendary boom?

lunar kiln
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stealth in hades

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sneak past cerberus

slow star
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According to mythology, eating poms makes you tied to the underworld.

timid mirage
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welp them i'm a goner already

slow star
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I assume cerberus is somewhat tied as well, so the doggo would return as per usual.

lunar kiln
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nvm kam's idea is peak brain

slow star
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Tho, I think the poms in hades work a bit differently

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because persephone ate six, and was tied so she could only come to eath in spring, when the flowers are blooming.

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Whilst it seems clear that in hades, persephone hasn't been around.

lunar kiln
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oh btw i took a picture of one of the statues in the new tartarus chambers

uncut sail
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She is probably persephone

runic terrace
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when ur at a party and ur getting tired so you drop ur smile and stand under a big square

lunar kiln
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god mood

pale nest
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Could be Dusa

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šŸ˜›

slow star
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I wonder what zagreus is the god of.

pale nest
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Sass

slow star
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because every god is a "god of something"

pale nest
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And talking back to Hades

uncut sail
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Actually in the greek mitology Hades and persephone had a quite good relationship

slow star
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They did, it was mom who was upset

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coz muh daughter

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is stuck under the ground

uncut sail
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If you compare it to the rest of the gods

lunar kiln
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the "it's not a phase" god

slow star
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The god of eating poms.

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I mean, there's a god of wine

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imagine being that guy

cloud cargo
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The god of abs

pale nest
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One of the clips that plays as you’re starting a run establishes Zag as the god of talking back to Hades

uncut sail
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Maybe persephone and Hades are colaborating to make zagreus stronger

slow star
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Here's poseidon, he controls the entire ocean. Now this guy, this guy... he... he is the god of wine. Yes, he uh... does wine things? Or just... really likes drinking wine.

uncut sail
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And Hades is just playing the bad cop role

slow star
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I mean randus, that's more or less meant as a joke šŸ˜›

pale nest
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NO IT’S DEAD SERIOUS

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GOD OF TALKING BACK TO HADES CONFIRMED

restive elk
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yup

lunar kiln
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i think i remember that too but i'm not sure???

slow star
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Zagreus should become god of the underworld so hades can become god of onion

lunar kiln
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felt like a fever dream

restive elk
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it's official

uncut sail
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I would like to be the god of insane burns

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And comebacks

pale nest
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God of teenage angst

lunar kiln
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emo teens all around the world look up to him

uncut sail
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Though the god of wine sounds nice enough

pale nest
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You aren’t my real mooom

slow star
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zagreus is god of charming gorgons.

uncut sail
restive elk
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Well not only charming, but apparently slayng as well

slow star
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THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE GORGON

restive elk
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Wasn't there like 3 of them of i mistake with another trio?

slow star
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the witches probably

restive elk
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No, as solid as prof as wikipedia is, there was 3 gorgons

slow star
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according to mythology, zagreus is also sort of a god of the underworld

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zagreus is just a rather obscure god

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Of which not much info is like, consistent

pale nest
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Zagreus might also just be Dionysus

visual laurel
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we have like 3 references to zagreus, one of which refers to him as potentially a prince of the underworld, and one of which uses his name as an epithet for orphic dionysus (as opposed to Mass Appeal dionysus)

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also??? added voice lines for achilles you didnt warn me my heart was gonna break

pale nest
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;_;

visual laurel
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logan hitting it out of the freaking park yet again and also??? just,

pale nest
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Dude’s a beast

visual laurel
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let the man be happy please hasn't he suffered enough

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hades: you know how after you die, there's a good place and a bad place
hades: well you're in the good place
achilles, 2 months later, still having not found patroclus: oh, this is the Bad Place

runic terrace
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HHHHHGHJGHJGHJGJH

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achilles: and this is where id live with my soulmate.........
achilles: IF I HAD HIM HERE

restive elk
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As if Hades will tolerate some sort of happines in his house, that divorse hit him real hard >_>

runic terrace
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hades voice there will be NO smiling in my HOUSE!!!!!

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is that a JOKE, boy???? is that a JOKE book????? throw it away

vale crypt
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Imagine Batman Spartan movie (like Batman Ninja) with Joker dying and going to Tartarus
Hades will go psycho in one month

lunar kiln
restive elk
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Safe as -5 hp on attack, yes

runic terrace
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chaos: im ultrapowerful
chaos: but talkin to your family just messes me up, dude
zag: yeah i understand

pale nest
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Mood

lunar kiln
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also did they give zag more "playful" lines in combat or did i miss them until now

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now sometimes he goes "let's go lads"

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and more laughter in general

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it's a change from the whole "blood and darkness, i will kill you wretches again and again until you die"

slow star
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he only says blood and darkness if he gets hurt a lot

lunar kiln
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ye but you get the idea

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sdfhsfj i got a funny combination of lines there

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meg: (dies) No!

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zag: Yes!

pale nest
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Art

lunar kiln
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ooOOOoo i got the new achilles angst dialogue

bleak osprey
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i can’t wait to get home and spam runs

visual laurel
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yeah

lunar kiln
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do u want me to post here

bleak osprey
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i had to stop early last night because i

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PLS NO

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i know this is spoiler channel

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but pls

visual laurel
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sparrow you've already seen it

lunar kiln
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alright alright,,,

bleak osprey
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oh that one

visual laurel
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yes sparrow that one

lunar kiln
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no it's not the one where he gets yelled at by hades

bleak osprey
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i think there’s another one i haven’t seen yet

visual laurel
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yeah

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it's the

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the other one

bleak osprey
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yeah i haven’t seen him get yelled at yet

lunar kiln
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it's the one where zag asks him more about patroclus

visual laurel
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sparrow you've seen the patroclus one

bleak osprey
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i have

visual laurel
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i know you have i was there gkjdghfd

bleak osprey
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that’s the one you and kam had to talk me out of spoiling myself on

visual laurel
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yeah but we still both read it gkjdfg

bleak osprey
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yeah......

visual laurel
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anyways

lunar kiln
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i took pics or every single line

visual laurel
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post away

lunar kiln
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i knew youd like it

visual laurel
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god logan just

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this kills the man

lunar kiln
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lemme just put that all together

bleak osprey
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logan likes to tear my heart out apparently

visual laurel
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what can i say, lad? i loved him with all my heart yeah i'd like to report an emergency, my heart is breaking

bleak osprey
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yEAH

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he just. says that! with his face! and somehow i am expected to be Fine

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and not a sobbing wreck

runic terrace
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HHHHHHH

visual laurel
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mythology: patroclus and achilles met up in the underworld and everything was Fine
sgg: hmmmm. hm. not sad enough.

bleak osprey
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i’m going to fistfight hades!

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if i can’t date achilles can i at least make him happy. please.

lunar kiln
bleak osprey
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god. hey who wants to hear my sad idea

runic terrace
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me

bleak osprey
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jesus kam that was Immediate

runic terrace
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JDJVNVNVNV

bleak osprey
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anyway - that fourth dialogue there, where achilles says it’s hard to find your way in the underworld

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what if when achilles isn’t present in the house it’s because he’s out looking for patroclus

lunar kiln
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WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS

bleak osprey
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either that or he spent a lot of time looking for him before getting roped into whatever his deal with hades is

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ITS WHO I AM

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look i might not be called the pain imp any more but i didn’t stop being it

runic terrace
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HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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except for when cerby isnt there also. bc that means hes taking cerby on a walk

bleak osprey
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good

lunar kiln
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oh my god i got an idea

bleak osprey
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hey, three heads, three sniffs

lunar kiln
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unique event when you complete achilles' route where you can now encounter patroclus and reunite him with achilles

dense fox
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Achilies leaves the house because he just can't deal with Hades nonsense any more and if he spends five more minuites tormenting poor Zag he's going to pull a godslayer on the guy so he goes away for a bit to cool off

bleak osprey
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he’s more a guard dog than a hunting dog but still

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three sniffs

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ok discord is blitzing my phone battery i’ll be around later

lunar kiln
spring scaffold
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You know how you see the light when you die on Earth? When Skelly dies in the underworld, he sees Earth.

solar depot
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I'm not here to ship shame, buuuuut

lunar kiln
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you are here to ship shame

solar depot
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(no jk)

lunar kiln
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hfdsjf

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it's more of a crack ship than anything tbh

spring scaffold
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Skelly does not need Zagreus. He's got a full harem of bloodless boyos waiting for him.

runic terrace
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you know, i can hear "a HAREM of boyos!!" in skellys voice

solar depot
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would that i were not able

molten carbon
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I couldnt stop thinking on the word Boyos this morning while i worked

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hateful word

lunar kiln
pale nest
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Chaos is so fabulous

tribal forge
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So fabulous

tardy cedar
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I love Chaos

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they are so cool and offer very cool boons

pale nest
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Best gentlebeing

molten carbon
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Poseidon is like those guy you can trust everything lol

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or that guy you can skip classes

dense fox
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Possiden is the cool uncle that only seems slightly off

molten carbon
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yeah xD

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so Chaos would be like a supreme entity among the gods we have, right?

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or is he below hades for example?

tardy cedar
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Chaos created everything

late nacelle
uncut sail
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firs time I die to meg in weeks

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maybe getting 3 chaos boons before her was not the best idea xD

dense fox
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Hades after that pic probably went "Forgive ME? That's rich, it was his fault in the first place!"

late nacelle
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Yeah pretty much

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hes like

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His beard may be luxurious but he's still as much of a kid as you are, now go frolic with your great uncles and don't talk to me again

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Big ooft

dense fox
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oof

spring scaffold
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Zeus' beard is nothing compared to Hades' moustache.

late nacelle
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I think hades can't grow a beard so he's overcompensating

pale nest
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His beard is pretty fantastic

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Even Hades has to admit it

molten carbon
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maybe Hades is the beard and not the person itself

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(?)

dense fox
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The massive incident that tore hades and his family apart was originaly Hades had best beard but Zeus and Possiden conspired to make him unable to grow any facial hair at all. That moustache of his he grew however from the power of sheer spite.

molten carbon
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twist plot

smoky tusk
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what. it works on bosses?

uncut sail
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changed it to gameplay xD

smoky tusk
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fair

lunar kiln
bleak osprey
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god i love them

tardy cedar
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chaos are cool

lunar kiln
bleak osprey
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[raises hand] i have the full text on their wiki page

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it was fun because i tried to copy-paste it out without actually, uh. looking at it.

tardy cedar
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nice

dense fox
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rest of codex "But I know Chaos lives and that they plan to destory what they created because chaos is always evil!"

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ALWAYS

lunar kiln
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we're chaos' therapist

tardy cedar
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also um

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thingo

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i recently realized that the gods could be trying to get zag to be a pawn

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bc there is a war going on right now on the surface

lunar kiln
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eh

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it's too early to say that yet

tardy cedar
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there is a war going on and the gods never mention it

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which is interesting

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maybe dusa is the mastermind behind all this

dusky laurel
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is it just me or is artemis suuuuuper OP after this patch? her dash boon now affects all dmg and it stacks with her other boon Pressure Point.... i just did a stygian blade + athena special run, and well, that combo is pretty invincible, but after getting artemis boons i was blinking around dealing 500 dmg with my special really early on.... it also works really well with point-blank bow special :\

tardy cedar
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she's different

dusky laurel
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she synergizes with almost everyone, which other gods dont seem to (except chaos, but chaos is even more fun)

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like, her dash boon seems to also affect ares curses which leads to hillariously high dmg

tardy cedar
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that's probably intended

dense fox
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Dusa actually is the pure evil Medusa who's been playing all the gods for fools. The guise of a timid maid is a ruse for deniability! WAKE UP SHEEPLE

lunar kiln
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everyone in this house has family issues

smoky tusk
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oh, hades is a family drama in disguise for sure

dense fox
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...Does that make Chaos Zag's fake grandpa?

whole mulch
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Like I love Chaos

tardy cedar
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Chaos is zag's godfather

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dies in puns

whole mulch
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Well technically Chaos is his great great grandfather

lunar kiln
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also reminder that chaos is referred to as they/them

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as seen in this dialogue

dense fox
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Yeah but i mean i don't think there is a term for grandthey

amber canyon
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Family issues is basically the subtitle to greek myth

whole mulch
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Well grandfather and grandmother

pale nest
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Grandparent is fine

lunar kiln
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chaos is zag's grandgentlebeing

tardy cedar
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Grandleberry

whole mulch
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Chaos kind of references being both a mother and father at one point

dense fox
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Grandparent could work

whole mulch
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Origin point

dusky laurel
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"progenitor"

elfin rune
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omg @lunar kiln can i get your profile pic it's beautiful

lunar kiln
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there can be only one

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the mods will personally stop us if we multiply

elfin rune
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no no I'll only use it in conversations

lunar kiln
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right

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i'll dm it to u

smoky tusk
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what was your previous icon? I forget

lunar kiln
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athena with that smile

smoky tusk
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ah yes. I recall the smile. now i recall the whole image.

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thanks. I hate it.

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:)

lunar kiln
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jen zee's art is a wonderful blessing and if she ever reads this i hope she knows i'm so, so sorry

smoky tusk
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yours, is art too. not art that our brains can appreciate

elfin rune
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I'm sure all Supergian team appreciates and inspired by all the support they get. They gathered one of the greatest fanbases around their games, I think

bleak osprey
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oh my god

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so this isn't, like, update spoiler but

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i just completed the pom codex entry??

lunar kiln
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shkhf

runic terrace
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HFJFJGJ

lunar kiln
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i think he says something like that in another entry

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i'm not sure though

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hey what do you think of the fact achilles is aware of chaos' existence and current status

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emphasis on current status bc everyone else thinks they're "dead and gone" and the only people who know about them just chilling in the void are him, zag and nyx

runic terrace
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he had to know so he could write the codex

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hfkgkgk he walks past hades thinking i know sonething you dont know :3 and then laughs at himself fpr being childish

lunar kiln
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STOP

fast idol
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wait does Achilles state that he knows where Chaos is right now, or does he just know of their general existence and background

tardy cedar
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I think Chaos is basically everywhere at once

fast idol
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Yeah, they know what Zagrius tries and they just
Want to make it more entertaining for everyone
Including them, which means they are just sitting on the sidelines, watching

lunar kiln
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the simple fact that the chaos codex entry exists and what the entry says means that achilles does know what they're up to to some extent

chrome stratus
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After seeing Hades admonish Achilles for training Zag, I get the feeling that Hades is going to make Achilles a boss fight.

fast idol
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I bet another boss fight will be at least two Fury sisters together

bleak osprey
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guys if you haven't already please dash behind the counter in the lounge now that the chonky boy is there

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excuse me

dense fox
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I'm an idiot. dusa is a pun. She's a maid. Maid Dusa=Medusa

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someone kill me

somber flame
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I will not kill you.

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I can however, bop you on the head with an imaginary plushie.

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I do have foam swords if you insist upon it.

dense fox
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That works, just make sure it's pretty hard

tawny flint
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I really like the changes for the hydra fight

lunar kiln
lunar kiln
primal flame
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yes, Chaos, you're toooootally not like them shadeeyeroll

peak bramble
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to be fair, you kinda have to go out of your way to get to Chaos

fast idol
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yeah exactly

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but in order to advance in the rooms you have to get the blessings of the Gods

green crystal
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whats the unlockable keep sake

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too lazy to play :p

tardy cedar
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the cosmic egg?

green crystal
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what does it do ?

jaunty obsidian
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it removes all blood gate hp costs and increases rare or better boon chances from chaos by 20% at the start i think

tardy cedar
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yeah

jaunty obsidian
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increases to 40% at max rank

strange cipher
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I feel like this is a decent content update.

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To market it as a "major" content update is a bit of a stretch.

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But that's just me.

digital crag
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something interesting: i thought the game's chaos shares some similarity to a fairly obscure primordial deity in greek mythos called Phanes who is also gender nonbinary

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association with egg included

sand marsh
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ā€œ...depicted as a deity emerging from a cosmic egg.ā€ (from wikipedia)

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Chaos actually just gifts you Phanes.

tardy cedar
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cosmic 🄚

lunar kiln
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patch quote reminding me of that one achilles interaction

sweet steppe
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the real cosmic egg is the world record egg on instagram dusa

lunar axle
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Got it! Defeated that tartarus damned hydra

wise epoch
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nice!!

cloud zinc
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congrats 😃

lunar axle
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it just took Athena's super shield and dash

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thanks

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attempt 41 or.. 42

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that legendary shield tho, it keept me healthy, wich in turn kept me calm a

elfin rune
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I defeated her (or him or them or it) on the second run after patch note came out. It's just like wow that was easy

bleak osprey
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fun fact! most sources refer to the hydra as an it, but some refer to the hydra as a she

stark tulip
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The quote of the patch is killing me

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in cold blood

bleak osprey
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oh mood??

atomic forge
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Yea I did three runs in a row yesterday with 3 different weapons (spear, then shield, then sword) and beat the Hydra in all of them consecutively

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It is wayyyy easier

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I tried going for all 4, but the bow run was too hard as I rarely got any boons I wanted

slow star
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bow is easy considering it has the best daedalus upgrades

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the onyl bad ones being fast charge (unless you get ares or zeus) And barrage upgrade.

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Sniper shot kinda, but it's just less potent than the other damage builds

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damage upgrades*

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I think the strongest is charge shot

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triple shot is pretty strong too.

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but charge shot allows you to get really high crit damage

onyx spoke
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chaos is big spooky

runic terrace
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( puts aj and tariq and ragyo and white diamond and some babies and a zombie in a big pot ) (stirs) A CHAOS IS BORN

tardy cedar
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does chaos have jewelry?

runic terrace
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earrings right?

tardy cedar
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what are they made of, do you know?

runic terrace
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UHHHHH IDK

tardy cedar
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it's a shame they aren't made of Emeralds

runic terrace
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ah sry idk the reference

tardy cedar
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Chaos Emeralds

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get it now?

runic terrace
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OHHHH

tardy cedar
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please send help

runic terrace
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obama chuckled. *you mean, the chaos boon?*

tardy cedar
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wait, does Chaos look like Michelle Obama?

acoustic condor
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I

bleak osprey
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kam....... kam, you know i have photoshop,,

tardy cedar
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do it

runic terrace
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DO IT

bleak osprey
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lucky for you i took a screencap of chaos talking for photoshop purposes

runic terrace
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YES

tardy cedar
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chaos for president

runic terrace
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oh PLEASE

bleak osprey
acoustic condor
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hhhhhhhhhhhhhhbnliugvbukygbkjkd

thick pond
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I hate how much I love that

acoustic condor
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Who do we have to @ to make this a voiceline

tardy cedar
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that's a very good edit

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please put that in #fan-works

runic terrace
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JFMGMGNG

eternal trail
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Does anyone know if you can power-up a chaos buff?

sharp ermine
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Dont think so played a bit by now and no chaos boons appeared in any of the poms

stark tulip
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i don't believe so, I've never had the option at least

echo wigeon
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So... is there any bonus to toiling?

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Spent like... 80% of my key savings for Pride and it looks like theres no belated bonus

slow star
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@eternal trail you can, but only through chaos. She can offer the same effect again, which upgrades the existing effect. Doesn't stack multiplicatively, it just levels up the boon you already have

spring scaffold
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*they

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And no, @echo wigeon it's just for those who want more challenge, there is no reward to it.

echo wigeon
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Eh... Maybe later it'll give cosemetics or little achievement stars or something... for now, touch sad thats what my keys bought me.

viscid sinew
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I just realised... massive spoiler.... Dusa is medusa

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lol I know its not a spoiler, but wtf the penny just dropped

boreal halo
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is there a list of available boons?

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including the legendary ones

visual laurel
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check the wiki! though I'm not sure it's been updated...

lunar kiln
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"I am God. Call 911" -chaos

boreal halo
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šŸ‘

frozen jolt
whole mulch
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That is probably my fav of the new lines

earnest mesa
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cerberus is a good boy and deserves all the treats

whole mulch
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Yes yes yes he does

visual laurel
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let him rest

primal flame
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I'm feeling jealousy, ven squirtdevious

visual laurel
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achilles is very much in love with patroclus and i am 100% ok with that, what i'm NOT ok with is aphrodite rubbing the trojan war in achilles' face when she of all people would know that achilles' whole fate and downfall was tied in with it

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: (

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still, i really love these like...go out, hear from a god, come back, talk to a person in the house of hades about that conversation, loops

primal flame
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Aphrodite doing Aphrodite things

visual laurel
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there's four or five convos you can have with nyx about chaos that i've been really enjoying

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i hope that dynamic continues to expand~

primal flame
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yeh, those are really nice

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Chaos in general is a really sweet new character shadeohboy

visual laurel
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god. i love them. i have a reason to go in the blood gates now

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i've been spamming runs just so i can give them all my stockpiled ambrosia and hear what tea they have about the other gods

dense fox
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Apparently according to the wiki and tv tropes, people tried to datamine zag's codex entry. If you go beyond what is in game you get:

Listen, Mortal. You are not supposed to be reading this. You are most bold, or most unwise, to have been digging through these arcane texts, or to have gleaned the knowledge from someone who has. Sometimes, herein, you may find traces of the weavings of the Fates. That is true. At other times, however, your attempts to glean the future shall be thwarted. Best not to spoil the surprises that the Fates may have in store for you, if you ask me. For the Fates work in mysterious ways, and defy prediction; remember that.'

I love it when game devs do design stuff like that to avoid spoilers or thrawt pirates creativly rather then rely on non creative means

lunar kiln
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When you continue to give ambrosia to poseidon zag goes like "oh heres a present for the best uncle ever" or "i got ambrosia but itll never compare to your sheer awesomeness"

echo wigeon
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Poseidon is like... the cool uncle.
Zeus is the regal uncle.
Chaos is the philosophy teacher.
Meg is the tsundere love intrest that we won't really get a proper story line till the full game comes out and you beat her with max toil...

visual laurel
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zeus is the rich uncle who got everything from mom and dad in the will, but is convinced that he, like, earned that money and now he acts like he's the best because of it

echo wigeon
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You doubt his power? His grace? His hobby of turning into animals to lay with random chicks and other animals?

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Also, he at least speaks the most properlly from what I've seen.

visual laurel
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yeeeaaah but he only has those powers because rhea got tired of cronus eatin her kids and spared zeus

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he lucked out!!! and he's been rubbing it in everyone's faces for millennia

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but he does have the most regal bearing for sure lol. he just didn't really earn it

lunar kiln
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Sometimes eating kids isnt so bad

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Cronus was valid

atomic forge
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How didn't he earn it? It's not like he hired other people to fight the Titans for him while sitting back drinking Mochitos

visual laurel
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He didn't fight them alone either though

atomic forge
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Never said he did, still a hard earned victory

visual laurel
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And his track record since then hasn't exactly been stellar in terms of like...fairness or ruling with a gentle hand

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What happened to the Hekatonkares or whatever they were called anyways

whole mulch
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Like zeus did get a lot of things handed to him by fate

visual laurel
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I feel like he tossed them back in tartarus once they helped him win

whole mulch
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That is the story I remember too

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I found it weird that one of Poseidon's kids was a cyclops

atomic forge
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One of Loki's kids was an eight-legged horse...

whole mulch
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Like how does that just happen. Not like any of the other gods have cyclops sons.

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Like the cyclops were technically still creatures of the titan generation

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I definitely expect something about titans breaking free or the like

bleak osprey
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i mean the cyclops are trying to kill zag, so

whole mulch
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I was thinking the hundred handed giants

bleak osprey
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ah

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hecatoncheires

visual laurel
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thanks sparrow that is not what i would have guessed but it makes sense

bleak osprey
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the hecatoncheires were three giants with a hundred hands and fifty heads who were sons of gaia and uranus (the earth and the sky)

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depending on whether you’re looking at hesiod’s theogony or virgil’s aeneid, they either fought against the titans or for them

solar depot
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h-hecatoncheires hundred-hands

visual laurel
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a hekaton is a group of 100 and cheires is related to handedness...

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like uhhh

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chiral proteins

primal flame
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hundred-hands hundred-hands? are they the moon-moon of greek mythology? squirtdevious

lunar kiln
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time for a little chaos

lunar kiln
bleak osprey
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i really love chaos and their whole everything

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chaos: oh your dad is bad???
chaos: i am your mother and your father now

spring scaffold
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"You're my mother? Nice, don't have to continue on that quest, then."

primal flame
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lmao shadesmile

lunar kiln
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lmao i get that one chaos boon that hides chamber rewards

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when that effect is active it changes the reward previews before you enter a chamber to sisyphus' icon

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i enter a chamber sisyphus is actually waiting for me

lime yoke
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now that's a plot twist

bleak osprey
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fun fact that room reward icon is actually just for "mystery" rooms, it's also used for the room after meg and the first asphodel room

lunar kiln
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yah

fast idol
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I thought it's like a
'reward' zone

bleak osprey
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i kinda wish those two rooms had a different icon bc the mystery room one definitely looks like it should be sisyphus'

lunar kiln
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also u meant last asphodel room

lime yoke
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shouldn't it be ? icon instead of ! then? xD

fast idol
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Maybe he'll get a new icon at some point

bleak osprey
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no i meant first

fast idol
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his rock or something

bleak osprey
lunar kiln
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THATS WHATS INSIDE BOULDY

fast idol
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ah

bleak osprey
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(and the three gems are red/yellow/purple for the health/gold/darkness rewards)

lunar kiln
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you open him up and its just

fast idol
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That's why he has so much stuff

bleak osprey
#

bouldy has been a geode all along

fast idol
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He just finds it inside bouldy

lunar kiln
#

geody

fast idol
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though I wonder how so much edible food is stuffed inside there

lime yoke
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crack open the Bouldy with the boy

bleak osprey
lunar kiln
#

fsdh

primal flame
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stop trying to crack open Bouldy shadegrief

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Bouldy did nothing wrong

fast idol
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only by proxy

lunar kiln
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lmao imagine bouldy blocks your path to the surface at one point and if your dps isnt high enough you cant proceed

lime yoke
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idk he never talks to me, he's a little cold

fast idol
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I am really looking forward to his artwork
How's he gonna looook

lime yoke
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what if you just oneshot Bouldy with true shot

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Sis would be sad

fast idol
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hades would just give him a new one

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And Sisyphus would be like
"It's just not the same"

wraith moth
primal flame
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not atm

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locked hearts are, well, locked. at least during early access

echo wigeon
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They removed a bunch of locks with the last big update. It's most likely they have not been created / semi-finalized / finalized yet

lunar kiln
runic terrace
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ncmvnvnbngnb

astral solar
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Oh no shes hoooot insert squidward meme here

lunar kiln
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the voice acting is top notch as well on this line

astral solar
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Yo when i saw chaos' design i was like gilmanlove

runic terrace
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saaaaameeee
theyre BEAUTIFULLL

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amd so is artemisss

bleak osprey
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does artemis know i'd die for her. does she.

echo wigeon
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Start praying... find a lot and start building a temple.
It's time we bring back some of the true gods

tardy cedar
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the gods won't catch you when you fall thou

echo wigeon
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That's not their job. That is your job

tardy cedar
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r/woosh? mmLol

echo wigeon
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I'm hoping that the toils of man and the boon of the human spirit is something we find in later updates

runic terrace
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youll be pleading whille youre bleeding, huh

bleak osprey
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[strums guitar]

tardy cedar
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there ya go!

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the true final boss is Rucks

echo wigeon
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But yeah, woosh bruh. Woosh

runic terrace
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zag: im so betrayed orpheus play the pantheon

tardy cedar
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hello i have a problem

lunar kiln
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(orpheus normal voice) des-paaa-cito

tardy cedar
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im now thinking of the song wannabe by spice girls

runic terrace
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someone ask michael to say despacoto in the ama

tardy cedar
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we should uh

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who voices Chaos?

bleak osprey
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peter canavese!

tardy cedar
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we should ask him to either say "you mean the chaos boons?" or the entire dialogue exchange

bleak osprey
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he's also zeus, as well as being manley and gilman in pyre

tardy cedar
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i should really buy transistor and play it

runic terrace
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MFJFNGN MANLEY CHUCKLED. YOU MEAN THE CHAOS BOONS?

tardy cedar
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just like

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what if you had the reporter type be voiced by Darren

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so it's zag and chaos talking to each other

echo wigeon
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Peter may end up one of my voice actor waifus

tardy cedar
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brb writing up script

lunar kiln
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ares stop calling me "my kin" challenge

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it gives me Bad Thoughts

echo wigeon
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There will be a guest god from the land of egypt...
It'll be the frog god Kek

runic terrace
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yeah ares my kin is VOLFRED'S thing u big stealer

tardy cedar
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what about my ken

runic terrace
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youre not my cant, zag, youre my can,

stark tulip
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it’s a verb, he’s asking zag ā€œwhat’s up, you mikin?ā€

runic terrace
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jfjvnbngjh u made me look up "mikin definition"

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urbandictiomary says Someone who is so passionate about life. Not only do they enjoy their life to the fullest, but makes sure others are too. Always optimistic, loving, caring, and full of so much enthusiasmĀ 

stark tulip
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In 2019 we are ALL mikin

runic terrace
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two thousand mi-keen

warm kelp
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guys am i the only one who noticed the dialogue gem when you give ambrosia to Achilles? i don't have the screenshot but he basically tells you that he's in love with someone else and that you shouldn't get your hopes up... i actually hope he meant Patroclus

runic terrace
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yessss!!!!! keep on playing, thers more in that stiryline :3333

warm kelp
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i had ambrosia for him but i gave it all to Chaos and Ares

lunar kiln
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the way achilles brings up patroclus rly makes it look like he'll be relevant in later updates i'm hyped

bleak osprey
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plays the tiniest violin for the possibility of dating achilles šŸ˜”

warm kelp
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yes! that makes me so hyped up also

bleak osprey
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like i KNOW patroclus is a thing. but i got my hopes up pensive_cowboy

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....oh dear that was the wrong emoji

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oh well i'm leaving it

lunar kiln
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qgfjhqsdgf

warm kelp
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i want to wish that the devs read the book Song of Achilles

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which is really good btw if you're into cool stories with gay dudes

lunar kiln
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we're gonna reunite patroclus with achilles at the end of his route and eurydice with orpheus at the end of the former's route as well

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lets make everybody happy and then take sisyphus with us

warm kelp
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oh man that would be so cool

#

the amount of mythological accuracy in this game is stunning...

runic terrace
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why dont you ask some devs if they have :3

lunar kiln
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theyve got gossip and they'll make it hurt

warm kelp
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well i mean its more in the realm of fantasy than it has grounds in original myths so it would be far fetched
i'm glad they took inspiration from Orphic theogonies

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Chaos has such good dialogue

fervent quarry
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I like how Chaos holds earth as if it was a marble

timber flume
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So... what do you think is going on upstairs? There have been enough hints that something is happening.

warm kelp
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maybe the new Titanomachy?

timber flume
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Well, that'd be hard but I think the Underworld would be much more in turmoil

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AFAIK that's where the titans are

warm kelp
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it would be a shame to have 12 perfectly cool characters and not use them
and they're portrayed as the villains

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yea, two of them

timber flume
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Oh, you mean the new, old titans

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Stupid three generations of titans

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Er

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Two

warm kelp
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nah its three

timber flume
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Okay, yeah

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The eldest, with Chaos and Nyx, then came Cronus

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And then was Zeus, right

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?

warm kelp
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first 12, children of ouranus and gaia
then their children like atlas
and then hesperides and other minor titans

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no those are primordials

timber flume
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Ah

warm kelp
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chaos, ananke, chronos, nyx and in some cases eros are primordials

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then come ouranus and gaia, erebus and tartarus

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and then the titans

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now the order of the first two gets jumbled up a lot, especially since Chronos and Kronos became the same person in 4th century bc

timber flume
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I wonder if we are going to see Ananke and Chronos...

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We already get to see Nyx and Chaos

warm kelp
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oh man can you imagine?

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that would be so cool

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they could add Isle of the blessed also as a cameo or something because that's one of the most divine places

timber flume
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Maybe, depending on what they have for the third floor/layer

warm kelp
#

whats your idea for whats going on on olympus_

timber flume
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Well... the Olympus gods don't seem too upset or anything.

real spire
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There's always the same thing going on on Olympus. They party and someone gets laid

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And then there's an epic quest

timber flume
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Oh

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Oh

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I bet the narrator is Chronos

warm kelp
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i thought the same thing!
codex is achilles obv, especially since he urges you to use it

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at first i thought it could be Chiron though

fast idol
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I wonder why exactly the gods are so eager to get your up there

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like whats their gain
because I feel like a lot of them want something out of it

tardy cedar
#

welll

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there is a war going on on the surface

fast idol
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is there?

tardy cedar
#

yeah

#

meg mentions it

timber flume
#

Yeah, there are a lot of indirect mentions

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And some direct ones

fast idol
#

huh
I haven't played that actively

real spire
#

At the end we will have to choose who is going to be supreme commander of our armies to siege Olympus. It's going be Meg or Dusa. Will you pick intelligent, hard working flying snek head or lazy jailor blue chick?

wary bison
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lazy jailor blue chick

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she's a cutie

fast idol
#

I wonder if you can influence the ending by something

#

I mean it is a SG game with a lot of characters

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so I bet you can

amber canyon
#

How is Meg lazy though

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She keeps going out and get in your way despite the fact that you completely outclass her

tardy cedar
#

she seems like she could dunk zag if she tried

amber canyon
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And she is always there

timber flume
#

I doubt she is going easy on Zag

tardy cedar
#

she seems very competent

real spire
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Every time I'm back at home she's chilling at the bar while Dusa is working

tardy cedar
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She's busy thou so she takes her breaks when she can

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she is a Fury, after all

real spire
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My boi sisyphus is chilling every time I'm there. I though Meg's job was to make him work harder

tardy cedar
#

meg is busy fighting you

spring scaffold
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You're keeping Meg busy. That's part of why Sisyphus really likes it when you're there. Means Meg ain't breathing down his neck.

vivid summit
#

Ugh, still getting used to no bonus damage after dashing. That was OP with the Bow...

amber canyon
#

I mean

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We see Dusa chilling a lot more than Meg

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Meg is only chilling after we killed her

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And only because we also have not gone out after that

distant current
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no be fair, I think Dusa is passively patrifying the dust

vivid summit
#

Oh my god, Artemis' updated Sprite looks so good!

earnest mesa
#

yessss

vivid summit
#

It's so cute!

earnest mesa
#

yes! i love artemis so much ;-;

blazing zephyr
#

i love artemis' illustration

pulsar glacier
#

sorry for language but ... when you face 10 purple crystals with aarmor what are you supposed to do?

real spire
#

run forest

pulsar glacier
#

plus i tried the game with 26 skull head it was hard but no more reward :x

real spire
#

run

blazing zephyr
#

you have to range

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and spam casts

amber canyon
#

Actually, no

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You try to get them to charge their beams up

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Dash to the side, then smack them upside the head

pulsar glacier
#

they were 10 it was too much for me and i fall in fire at the end...

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its like there is too much to handle sometimes

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but i m glad i unlock a "scene" with dusa

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we drink together :p

blazing zephyr
#

i'm interested in chaos dialogue

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i've only gotten to the point where s/he is talking about nyx

amber canyon
#

It takes a while to get used to

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But Brimstones ultimately can be reliably dealt with

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And armour doesnt make them all that much worse

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Armoured louts however?

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They can go back to hell

pulsar glacier
#

louts? what are they?

#

i really hate the HADES challenges they are boring af

amber canyon
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The fat guys

pulsar glacier
#

oh yea

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run for 54 s Zzzz

tardy cedar
#

yeah but

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you can kill the enemies to get gold while you run

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if you have a broken enough build you can make serious cash

onyx spoke
#

Dong
Dong
Dong

T H E Y H A D T H E I R C H A N C E

tardy cedar
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because they won't stop spawning

pulsar glacier
#

yeaa

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now i play with the achiles artefact

frozen jolt
#

hey no swearing banne

pulsar glacier
#

its so brrooooken when you got athena him and

frozen jolt
#

sorry im late to this lol

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also chaos use they/them pronouns

pulsar glacier
#

Aphrodite

tawdry island
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lol

lost gorge
#

i just got the hydra to the point when 6 heads show up. how is that even legal

spiral saddle
#

wow

visual laurel
#

chaos, ojou-laughing behind their hand: what a quaint little ruse!

spring scaffold
#

Dang, thankfully, Zag does this whole thing because he found out about his mom. Imagine him just wanting to get away from hell because Hades is a butt and Chaos telling him that.

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"Wait, she's not my mom?" stumptCry

spiral saddle
#

im suprised zag hasent told the olympians

visual laurel
#

might ultimately work against him if he did...i wouldn't blame him for not trusting them

spring scaffold
#

Never reveal your cards to Olympians. That's probably a lesson his father taught him, and one of the few lessons he took to heart.

spiral saddle
#

probably

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how would it wprk against him

spring scaffold
#

The more somebody else knows about you, the more easily they can find a weakness and use it.

visual laurel
#

also nyx was the one who petitioned on zag's behalf in the first place

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the gods seem to respect her

spring scaffold
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Thinking Nyx, the one even Zeus fears the wrath of, is his mother has only advantages. Were he to tell them she's not, they would find a way to use that information.

spiral saddle
#

true

spring scaffold
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"Oh, your mom is that really badass lady that would kick my butt in ten seconds flat? Guess I shouldn't mess with you, or at least not too openly, then."

sour otter
#

Okay so, speaking into the void here, and I doubt I'm the first one to think/say this, but I think Hades is really on Zagreus's side this whole time because: 1, Skelly talks about his mystery employer, who can't be named. 2, Hades tried to escape the Underworld at least once, he's not happy there either, so he should be empathizing with Zag. 3, he mentioned to Megaera that everyone (including wretches) are "underperforming" lately, which seems awfully convenient, because how does the Lord of the Underworld lose control at all? 4, could've smashed Zagreus's extremely handy Darkness mirror, but ya didn't, Hades...
I know this is probably reaching, and Hades is a bad parent overall, but maybe he's secretly hoping Zagreus succeeds to Olympus like he couldn't do before?

neat crow
#

An interesting theory volfredthink I've had similar thoughts before, there could be something there... Really hard to say this early on though

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But we love to speculate in here

cold canopy
#

Yea I've thought about that before, I think it's definitely possible he's secretly rooting for his son but just doesn't wanna get his hopes up. However I in no way sympathize or condone how awful he is at conveying it and is a horrible parent

sour otter
#

absolutely, i was just thinking that Hades is still a dad, he's got to have some love in there, right?

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yeah he's terribly unsupportive, at least zagreus has nyx but hades is a Bad dad

#

no excuse for those actions...

runic terrace
#

he wants something out of it, im starting to think

crude cipher
#

i feel like he doesnt enjoy seeing zag die at the least

visual laurel
#

really

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because uhh

runic terrace
#

and when zag gets it, he may want to take credit lol
and i hope zag puts him in his place with "no, no, you did not help me get this, nyx and achilles and dusa and sisyphus and chaos helped"

visual laurel
#

the laughter every time i drag myself back out of the blood pool suggests otherwise

runic terrace
#

OH NO HE LOVES SEEIN ZAG DIE

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HAHAHAHA

sour otter
#

Yeah Hades needs a serious wakeup call, thats your kid, I don't care how salty you are, Zag is just doing his best...

runic terrace
#

his line abt "this will make mortals worship u more" had me šŸ¤”

sour otter
#

I think if we understood more of Hades's relationship with Persephone we'd get to why he treats Zag the way he does. Zag is a reminder of Persephone, so if he hates her or still loves her may impact how he treats Zag

runic terrace
#

i want zag to figure out how to cut ties or at least set a boundary and have hades respect it (posdibly the boundary is IM ON OLYMPUS NOW HAH HAH)

sour otter
#

I really wants those Hades hearts to unlock, how the heck are those two gonna get their relationship fixed?

runic terrace
#

i dont think they will.

cold canopy
#

idk if it will ever be a fix

runic terrace
#

yeah....hades messed up too much

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maybe the last heart will be an apology shadesmile

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but that may be too much to hope for

sour otter
#

If Hades ever apologizes, I would love it but I would also 100% cry

visual laurel
#

not sure you can come back from the kind of stuff hades is implied to have done

#

i'd be incredibly suspicious of an apology from him

#

depending on the situation he could just be trying to get zag under his thumb again

runic terrace
#

oh im not saying zag should forgive him lmaooooo

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but i want him to say sorry anyway

sour otter
#

That's another motivator, Hades could be secretly hoping for Zag to escape so he can use him as leverage...

visual laurel
#

lol yeah i'm not saying that

#

i'm saying even his apologies would probably not be from a genuine place

sour otter
#

Even if they had an eternity to work things out, as Gods do, it's tough to forgive

runic terrace
#

sometimes you look at the house and u share a laugh over an onion amd youre like, its not all bad, theres goodwill between them
and then a rememberence kicks ya in the heart
amd thats very good design uou

neat crow
#

Secret of the Hades game - You only ever unlock the first heart for hades

sour otter
#

nooooo

runic terrace
#

JFNFJG LIKE THE KRISTOPH BLACK PSYCHELOCKS IN APOLLO JUSYICE

#

THEYRE THERE BUT U CANT UNDO EM

neat crow
#

I do hope they make a more dynamic way to unlock hearts though... Right now gifting Ambrosia feels... cheap? Too easy? Like you're not earning the relationship?

sour otter
#

I get that, I do enjoy the lounge scenes though, the conversations really make it more 3-D, I hope ssg runs with that

runic terrace
#

i hope chaos gets a lounge scene kfncncn

#

DAD LOOK WHOS HOME

sour otter
#

"Hows that feel!"

visual laurel
#

i really like that they're expanding on the convos where you go out, talk to a god or something, and then come back and communicate what you were told

sour otter
#

learning about nyx's and chaos's relationship was very interesting. chaos is very profound, they terrify me.

#

assuming ssg adds more gods, artemis's and apollo's relationship should be pretty entertaining too, since they're twins i think?

sick grove
#

Since this is a rogue-like... unless they do something super genre-defying, 'beating the game' will still have you end up right back where you started. It's probably the thing I'm excited to see most, out of SGG and Hades.

#

Is it a 'fade to black, would you like to keep playing'? Does the hub change locations completely (too much work, gosh). Do characters acknowledge this plot advancement in game (Achilles congratulating me ; . ; )? Does 'end game' have some tonally different, more defined antagonist? How do the god's perspectives on you change when they realize that you're after reuniting with your mother? So many variables still up in the air. There's a lot to speculate on

echo wigeon
#

We may get an "epic" mode where you play one of the few heroes who have descended through to hades. Perhaps a Herculian mode where you travel down to tarterous to save the soul of a loved one.

neat crow
#

I think they've said that other playable characters are not planned, but I could be misremembering conversations

sick grove
#

Thing I've been speculating, is that the ending is sad (no duh). Your mother is chained, frozen, or in a state of 'well. Congrats, I guess'. You learn that the only way to free her is some complicated excuse to make Prince Z sacrifice himself before her, resetting him back down at the bottom, only to repeat the process another one-gazillion more times. Now, whenever you defeat runs, you get a nice little "...I'm back, mother."
Could even have that amount be like... twenty or so runs. Or a set value of parameters before you unlock true ending. Maybe the god whose boon you have the most of says something nice/rare as well, each time you finish.

#

Or the endings just a 'one and done, roll credits' kind of thing! Who knows! But it's fun to imagine.

sour otter
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an ending that forces zag to die is very possible imo, it would allow continuation...

sick grove
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Yup yup. Gotta imagine he returns to the beginning... but his motivation would _have\ to somewhat change, right? At least the context behind it!

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It also has a nice parallel to two other characters they've chosen to include.

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Sisyphus, his Boulder infinitely his curse. Reaching the top just to have it roll back down.

sour otter
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without spoilers for other games, ssg always has emotional endings

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sisyphus!

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what a great metaphor my god

sick grove
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Orpheus, his muse rekindled in the form of Zag. A futile grind to one day see a close loved one again. Now he sings for Zag, urging him to never give up hope. Don't Look Back taking on new context.

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Hell, even Achilles... who now might be motivated to search out his own missing love, motivated by Zag's own indomitable will.

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And Hades :)
Still the same. Still saying 'it will never work, why don't you stop already'.

sour otter
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i wonder if the whole "we must imagine sisyphus happy" would play into it, i cant imagine zag is happy, but finding contentment somehow may be relevant

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even meg is stuck in a cycle, right?

sick grove
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I hope she finds her own peace with this. I hope she sees the good it does for her, to better her own self. To improve in her abilities. To practice, and to spar with a friend.

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The only thing this idea doesn't include, is the massive amount of set up SGG has been taking with Titans.

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All of the weapons having been involved in their destruction. Primordial Chaos making an appearance. Etc, etc.

visual laurel
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I'd say the good it's doing her is...debatable

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you can spar with people without killing them

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but Hades' rules are pitting Meg and Zag unstoppably against each other in bad faith

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neither of them wants to be fighting to the death

sick grove
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Exactly! I hope at the end she goes like, wait!!! That was good... you may pass.

visual laurel
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She Literally Can't tho

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because if she does then she has to deal with Hades

sour otter
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meg's sisters being busy in the above-world is foreboding too

visual laurel
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and I think she takes her duties pretty seriously regardless

random basin
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Hello. I had 0 idea there was a discord for this

visual laurel
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Oh, welcome!

runic terrace
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surprise! there is

sick grove
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I still hope she finds her peace, however it may be! I don't want turmoil without hope, for any character. That wouldn't be the SGG way!

random basin
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I am surprised.

visual laurel
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Yeah! I don't know how it's gonna work out, but as it is I don't think she or Zag can really get out of their conflict

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The basic dynamics of the House would have to change

left pelican
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You should only be scared of one of the sisters, the fury of constant anger, the other is the fury of avenging murder, so if you didn't murder anyone (Assumed dead people in hades dont count) then you're safe from that one

sick grove
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The fury of being... really nice to their friends, and letting them pass because you're besties?

neat crow
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#LetMegRest

left pelican
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Meg is the fury of jealousy, I don't know how to un-jealousify a woman..

sick grove
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Direct her jealousy into something positive!
"I wish I was as dedicated as you, friend!"
To which Zag responds
"No u."

left pelican
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Ah hit em with the "no u" always works!

visual laurel
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wow Lizzy that's kind of a reductive statement ^^;

left pelican
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I don't know what that means...

visual laurel
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It's not like some inherent trait of womanhood to be jealous

left pelican
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I didn't say that... Did I?

visual laurel
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"I don't know how to unjealousify a woman" sure reads like that

left pelican
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Was meant like if you had a jealous woman i wouldnt know how to handle that...

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I didn't mean to come off as "All woman are like this"

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It says more about me than anything..

neat crow
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I'm not sure I get the "jealousy" role interpretation for Megaera? I thought she was the Fury of oath breakers, infidels, and thieves?

visual laurel
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Ah sorry, I misread then !

left pelican
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We good ā¤

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@neat crow "Megaera is the cause of jealousy and envy, and punishes people who commit crimes, especially marital infidelity."

echo wigeon
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Spoiler: Zag dies always

left pelican
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So i was wrong in assuming shes the jealous one, shes the cause for it

neat crow
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I am vee jealous of megaera 's patience with Zag

left pelican
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Didnt Meg say something to dusa at some point about zag making dusa jealous/angry?

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I can't remember what but i seem to remember something vaguely

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fits with her being a jealousy-inducer

neat crow
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Maybe? I don't recall either

random basin
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Obviously, Meg needs to have a musical number where she constantly denies that she's jealous, while 4-5 shades sing in chorus behind her.

echo wigeon
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Wait... is this the same Meg from the disney one... just a different take?

left pelican
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The disney one is a different take on the myth one i assume

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as is this

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though this is more fury-y

random basin
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@echo wigeon yes. Indeed. 😃

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well, ok that was a joke

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they're 2 different myth characters

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Megaera is NOT Megara

echo wigeon
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So...

random basin
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so no

echo wigeon
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I see

random basin
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I was making a joke on their names being 1 letter apart

echo wigeon
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I got ya

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Hope the game isn't too hard to mod once they are done

neat crow
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Dang, it's been so long since I watched Disney's Hercules

echo wigeon
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You should rewatch it

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while you play this even

left pelican
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In Greek mythology, Megara was the oldest daughter of Creon, king of Thebes.
Megara was offered by her father to Hercules because he defended Thebes.
She had two children, a boy and a girl, but was killed with both of them by Hercules in his madness caused by Hera.
In some sources, it is said that Megara was also killed by Hercules, while for others it is said that she was given to Iolaus.
In some traditions, Hercules felt so guilty for the death of Megara that this was the motive he had for performing the twelve labors, as his repentance.

random basin
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"The Furies were the three goddesses of vengeance: Tisiphone (avenger of murder), Megaera (the jealous) and Alecto (constant anger). They were also called the Daughters of the Night, but were actually the daughters of Uranus and Gaea. Another name for them is the Erinyes."

left pelican
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So yeah TheMechanic is right šŸ˜„

random basin
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It's so weird

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Also I just realized that my name is that on this server

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Better

sour otter
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does anyone know why meg only has one wing? i love the design choice, but i was wondering why?

neat crow
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I've no idea, honestly

sour otter
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me neither, and zag hasn't mentioned it, so at least we know it wasn't a recent loss, i suppose?

echo wigeon
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Shes part Cetra

echo wigeon
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So like... you take her out for a drink finally... and shes all sweet...
Can we take her with us in the end game?!

lunar kiln
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Hades' keepsake is a reusable tissue to wipe away your tears

visual laurel
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hades' keepsake is the world's smallest violin lute

slow star
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Hades' keepsake replaces all rewards by onion

bleak osprey
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hades keepsake: lump of coal

late nacelle
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Hades keepsake is a chunk of his moustache

runic terrace
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hades keepsake is a picture of himself

turbid swan
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That should have been Zeus one, if you are to believe what Hades has to say of his brother.

runic terrace
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nfjgkgjf i was thinkin like. you know the scene in robots where the villain hands her son a pic of herself that says WORLDS BEST MOM on it

uncut sail
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anyone knows if chaos has a legendary boon?

visual laurel
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no one's reported one yet

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logically it would make sense tho

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well actually šŸ¤”

late nacelle
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I don't think they could due to how their boons work

visual laurel
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they

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yeah i'm not sure you can stack chaos boons actually

uncut sail
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so far I have gotten 4 of them in one run

visual laurel
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like, get more than one

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oh!

late nacelle
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No tiers though

visual laurel
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really?

uncut sail
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yeah

visual laurel
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huh!

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shows what i know

uncut sail
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and a blood gate for another one

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but the hydra battle was next

late nacelle
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Every blood gate has chaos in @visual laurel, and with bone hourglass light of ixion gives has 1+x encounters

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So you can get like 4 back to back hahaha

visual laurel
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wow lol

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that could be pretty vicious

uncut sail
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I got 560 darkness on one run thx to that

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hydra destroyed me though

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had no damage hahaha

late nacelle
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I'm pretty sure no legendaries though due to Chaos not having tiers, each boon is randomly generated in a downside and an upside

uncut sail
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maybe later on they give one

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it would be interesting if you press on chaos boons

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and get for example another ending

visual laurel
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Chaos does have tiers though? epic, rare, etc

uncut sail
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like in the binding of issac

late nacelle
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Those are rarities

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Tier's are different

visual laurel
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what are the tiers, the boons that come one after the other?

late nacelle
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It's basically, you can't get a tier 2 boon without a tier 1 boon at least

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And legendaries are tier 3

visual laurel
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right, ok

uncut sail
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exactly

late nacelle
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It could work if the legendary chaos has a prerequisite of having 2 chaos boons or something though, that'd be fun

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"increase all damage dealt by +150% but take +100% damage for the rest of the run"

uncut sail
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well that would be worse than some of his normal boons

visual laurel
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their

uncut sail
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I had today don“t use special and then gain 75% attack damage

late nacelle
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Yeah but I think having the flexibility of it being on attack, special, cast and dash is worth a decent amount

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Attack only applies to your main attack I think

uncut sail
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was thinking in more of a story driving boon maybe, something that you could only unlock by getting the chaos legendary

lunar kiln
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"i'm the only one who really cares about u"

runic terrace
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"theyre like oh were family we stick together but do they EVER call??"

lunar kiln
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further proof hades is just one big family drama

runic terrace
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"i never even get a birthday card, which isnt that surprising considering i existed before birthdays, but you know its the thought that counts"

echo wigeon
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chaos is both mother and father to the night

fast idol
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Chaos really be just like
"They care so much about each other but everyone forgot me, they probably don't even have any pictures left"

echo wigeon
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and he basically got sealed up when they sealed the titans

fast idol
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cough they cough

runic terrace
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they

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AH HAT

echo wigeon
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He

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its a contraction of they

runic terrace
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nah, they use they/them in text

echo wigeon
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Because its literally a he and a she and neither at the same time

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Because it is the primodial chaos

fast idol
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Yes that's why you use they

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everyone uses it ingame

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because they are both father and mother
the beginnen and the end
chaos

echo wigeon
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Aye, but they is 4 clicks, he is 2 clicks, and honestly we shouldnt refer to him as they... we should refer to them as master

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Master chaos... as little prince zag would put it

bleak osprey
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nope we refer to them as them because that’s their pronouns!

runic terrace
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a good practice for story and life!

echo wigeon
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which is silly, refer to them with titles, not pronouns

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Thus that whole idea of calling a doctor... doctor

bleak osprey
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nope, pronouns are fine, you just need to use them!

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you don’t exclusively refer to someone who is a doctor as ā€œdoctorā€ whenever you might say he or she or they

echo wigeon
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<-< I work with doctors and refer to them as "the doctor" man or woman

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Anywhom, Master is still the best. Hes something between a super cool philospher and a gambler...

amber canyon
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Or you just say "MEEEEEEDIC"

bleak osprey
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they’re

runic terrace
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please stop saying he, though.

echo wigeon
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Opressing others is rude bruh

amber canyon
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????

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Youre using the wrong pronouns

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Thats rude

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Calling you out on that is not

echo wigeon
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False

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Demanding what language others use, is literally opressing them

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'I chose what you may and may not do'

amber canyon
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That is without a doubt the most stupid thing Ive heard in a month

echo wigeon
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The truth doesn't require personal approval, it is the truth

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still though

runic terrace
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when someone tells you their name, you don't decide "no, ill call you a different one", right?

echo wigeon
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You do

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Nick names go on frequently

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You dont always choose your nick name and some choose to forgoe your name for another calling

late nacelle
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Nicknames are nicknames when the other person is consenting to it, otherwise its namecalling and bullying

runic terrace
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across the board, this server is a place where we respect others' pronouns, both characters' and the fellow members of this discord.

echo wigeon
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That is extremly sensitive, especially when the names you amy be called are 'friend' and 'buddy'

visual laurel
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those aren't gendered.

echo wigeon
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They are still names you may be called, despite not calling for them and them not being bullying

visual laurel
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that's not the point here

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It's not that much harder to just respect people's pronouns, it's one to two letters longer

late nacelle
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And also wrong, if someone asked me not to call them buddy i wouldnt as its without their consent

visual laurel
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there are people on this server who use they/them and you're coming off pretty disrespectful right now

echo wigeon
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No, the point was calling someone something inoffensive and then having people trying to oppress and police others in a very authoritarian manner

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I havent said anything poor about those people

late nacelle
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Opress would be deleting your comments and banning you

lunar kiln
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theyre just asking you to be nice and respectful though

late nacelle
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Theyre asking you

echo wigeon
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As it has been said, master is man woman nothing and everything

amber canyon
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Technically even banning him wouldnt be "oppressing" him

late nacelle
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So use they

echo wigeon
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It would

amber canyon
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The server has rules of conduct

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If he breaks them, well

late nacelle
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True, itd just be justice

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Justice is a bit preachy

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But ykno what i mean

echo wigeon
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thats the good old respect you call for

visual laurel
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Anyways.

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What were we talking about before this got off track?

pale nest
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Probably how great Dusa is

late nacelle
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How great chaos is

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oh

pale nest
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That too

visual laurel
late nacelle
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Chaos emote when

visual laurel
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wight has one

late nacelle
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Wight has so many good emotes

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They have cerb too

amber canyon
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Yknow its funny that chaos came to mean something entirely different from the original chaos

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Because the black nothingness that everything originates from was anything but disorderly

robust remnant
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I've only had one escape attempt since the release of the new update, but I am already loving Chaos as a character!

lunar kiln
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this is only the surface of the iceberg

amber canyon
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Icebergs in ancient greece?

lunar kiln
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well i mean

tardy cedar
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@amber canyon aren't parts of hell cold thou

amber canyon
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Hel, the nordic underworld was cold, yes

tardy cedar
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oh, well

amber canyon
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I dont think any part of the greek underworld is cold, however

late nacelle
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Zag vs Odin when

tardy cedar
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i guess in certain parts of hell mythos in general its cold

visual laurel
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You could be thinking of Dante? In Dante's Inferno, the 9th circle of hell was made of ice

amber canyon
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Cold was originally the most associated temperature with the underworld, yes

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The fire thing was something that came up in abrahamic mythology

tardy cedar
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yeah, ven

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I mean like

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I'm surprised Meg's glare hasn't frozen the house of hades solid

digital gulchBOT
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Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

runic terrace
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proxy........

tardy cedar
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I know why that happened

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I think I also know how to fix it

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one moment while I plug into the Matrix

runic terrace
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i love proxy theyre an overeager puppy sometimes

visual laurel
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they just want to help.

lunar kiln
visual laurel
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😭

tardy cedar
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she is very relatable

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supergiant should make a movie or smth

visual laurel
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i will get out of hell just for artemis so she won't be sad

tardy cedar
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does artemis have a crush on zag?

runic terrace
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i didnt get that vibe lol

visual laurel
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based on her characterization in myth, i would say....unlikely.

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supremely unlikely.

amber canyon
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Doubt it, she doesnt even know what he looks like

late nacelle
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I feel like it's more respect

amber canyon
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That or she wishes to find someone who is her equal to hunt with

visual laurel
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it seems to me like she relates to him...understands wanting to get away from the family drama, at any rate

runic terrace
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i feel like theyre the two cousins at the family gathering who are in the awkward not-kid-but-not-old stage so theyre at the kids table bonding over how pissed they are at being at the kids table

amber canyon
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Actually, I guess it depends if this is pre- or post-Orion

visual laurel
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orion was pre-trojan war

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and achilles is here in the underworld and dead

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so i'd say we're well post-orion

amber canyon
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Right