#h1-story-discussion

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lunar kiln
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hades but it's narrated by the stanley parable guy

stark tulip
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Zag wakes up in blood again. “Oh bother,” he said. “Just another day at work.”

gusty raptor
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https://imgur.com/a/LKwK90w So this is an interesting build. Not exactly great, but the amount of lightning flying around make it almost impossible to see what's going on, so I just dash around reflecting everything for a few seconds. It's fun ahhah

lunar kiln
faint cave
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Thank you very much

languid cairn
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meg's last conversation BibleThump

frozen jolt
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"oh, he said ahoy there, not hoy. i thought he was an undertale fan" -dino about sisyphus

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i just felt the need to share that gem for people who arent watching his stream

neat crow
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Is good stream, learn lots about the mechanics of the game

frozen jolt
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it is, i try to show up to every stream

visual laurel
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i got a new greeting from sisyphus the other night where he was like aren't you a sight! it was cute

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he's always so cheerful

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it's a nice pick me up when you're having a bad run haha

faint cave
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So many dusas

frozen jolt
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every time he says something like that im like hehe he likes me

bleak osprey
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i adore all of sisyphus's lines

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he's just so chill.....

runic terrace
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sisyphus listening real hard for zag's footsteps to know which room to stop in gjhggfhjfhj

bleak osprey
runic terrace
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I Lov You Too Sisyphus

faint cave
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Wait Hades also can't get out of hell?

bleak osprey
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seems so!

neat crow
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Yup

visual laurel
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aren't you a sight! god i love him

bleak osprey
cold canopy
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UwU

stark tulip
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We Are All Love Sisyphus

visual laurel
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we sure are !

late nacelle
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I just got a scene with him where he says when he was alive he wasn't such a nice person and that the years down here have humbled him

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Such a modest good boy

visual laurel
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yeah, i got that too, i'm glad he talked about himself a little haha

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he was a tyrant so like, not great, but not the most violent of tyrants either
he murdered guests

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it wasn't the murder that offended the gods

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it was the guest murder

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made zeus angry.

ashen crown
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If I've learned one thing from greek mythology, it's that you shouldn't make zeus angry

visual laurel
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yeah. zeus is protector of xenia, guest-rights

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still there are lots of people in elysium who did a lot more murder, and some objectively worse things, and got off scot free

ashen crown
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yeah, I just started reading the Illiad recently, it's interesting how differently morality in general seems to be treated

visual laurel
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for sure, for sure

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the definition of heroism isn't a strictly moral thing

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and "moral" is aligned differently anyways

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a lot of it has to do with what pleases or displeases the gods

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and i've said it before but, imo the fact that sgg chooses to redeem sisyphus but never even lets us talk to tantalus is a conscious decisions haha

pale nest
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I’m glad he’s reasonably happy and wiser now

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Bouldy’s been a good influence

covert verge
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He had soooome time to think lmao

visual laurel
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could i have photoshopped this?
yes

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did i?
no.

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it's. it's almost faster to just mod it in.

elfin dock
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My baby ;-;

visual laurel
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tbh the end of one of the later convos you have with him is basically this gkfdhgdf

frozen jolt
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JDBDJDBDJFB

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bless you ven

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Please post it at soup

visual laurel
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in soup...

icy urchin
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So do the Olympian gods know hades cant leave? They seem to suggest he cut himself off but thats not quite true.

visual laurel
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well they've sent him letters and such

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and clearly the olympians can "call" down to hades so i think hades could "call" up to olympus if he wanted to

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but he ignores their letters and doesn't reach out

ashen crown
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relatable

icy urchin
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Right but being a little bit peeved that you literally can't leave hell seems a justifable. Was just curious if i missed anything.

visual laurel
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nah
tbh he seemed more peeved to me that the olympians look down on his work even though it's a) extremely necessary and b) luck of the draw

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also that nobody helps him and he's by far the busiest of the gods

prisma adder
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Achilles seems to always be gone when i beat the hydra and one time after i lost to the hydra, he said "Go to your room!" Is he low key jealous or resentful towards Zag?

neat crow
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I think he's supposed to be saying that in a way to encourage you to try again

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As in, "Go to your room and leave out the window"

queen sierra
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lmao yeah hotshot I had the same reaction but then I remembered oh.... right, that’s how we escape

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I think Achilles is just resigned to his fate and generally depressed about his regretful life decisions and Patroclus

wet smelt
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where is patroclus rn anyway

queen sierra
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who knows tbh, as far as I know the only mention of him is Achilles saying “his shade might yet still reside in this realm”

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Achilles is sort of avoiding him, or at least not looking for him actively, since he blames himself for his death as far as I can tell

wet smelt
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aww GWvertiPeepoUpset

scenic comet
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My bet is that Patroclus is Skelly, personally.

lunar kiln
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are you trying to ship achilles with skelly

somber gull
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Oof. Someone paying Patroclus to get beat up is cruel irony

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-achelly

pale nest
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THAT WOULD BE SO SAD

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NO

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VETOED

runic terrace
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we poppin bottles when skelly is patroclus in the next update

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there now it wont happen

pale nest
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You're a hero

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I actually want Skelly to secretly be a powerful god

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That we've just casually been beating up

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Like, Thanatos himself or something

native kindle
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he is Hades’s lackey, put there by him to help groom Zag into a proper ruler of the underworld one day!

pale nest
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Exactly!

sharp otter
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what in the insider scoop

stark tulip
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I almost think it’s funnier that he’s just a random dude who gets paid to be beat up

amber canyon
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Doesnt skelly have a NY accent or something?

runic terrace
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"livin the dream, boyo. whats better than this, gettin beat up, AND money? When i was alive, they didnt pay me for it!"

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yup

pale nest
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What does he even need the money for

amber canyon
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My head-canon is that he is just a brooklyn deli guy who somehow got thrown back in time

pale nest
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I mean, there’s no evidence yet this isn’t modern day

scenic comet
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Belgo, I'd rather not ship it, I just like delicious irony.

amber canyon
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Well, no

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There is

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The shades that just arrived in the house of hades are all clearly from ancient greece

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Its in the old days, definitely

pale nest
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Just arrived could be a while, tho

runic terrace
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and the mcdonalds meals that arrived are all from 2018 ron

pale nest
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My head cannon is the line is centuries long

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At least

runic terrace
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i do think that the house of hades etc is unmoored from (earth) time

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you could enter or exit it at any point in history

pale nest
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McDonald’s meals are def modern

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As is Skelly’s accent

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I think there’s just a large backlog Hades is desperately trying to work his way through

runic terrace
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as you walk down the street....just know......anyone could be skelly after they die

amber canyon
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I think the fast food drops are just for stylization

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Plus, if it was modern times, youd imagine the gods would have cell phones instead of the one-way communication via boon windows

pale nest
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Nah, the gods are old-fashioned

runic terrace
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of course theyre for stylization but theyre still "real" to the characters

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who needs wifi when you have magic

amber canyon
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Plus, stopping Zag would be a lot easier if the wretches had some AK-47s

pale nest
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He says yum when he eats them, so they def exist in universe

somber gull
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Zeus does mention “Hades never answers my calls” tho so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

runic terrace
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AAAA TRU

pale nest
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Modern times confirmed

amber canyon
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Food exists in the universe, how the food is portrayed to us doesnt neccessarily represent how its portrayed in-universe

scenic comet
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That just might be ways to make it easier to joke.

pale nest
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That rules out a lot of possible wars

runic terrace
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theyre just working with whatever detrius floats in

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from eternity

scenic comet
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Oh right! YOU WANT A BIGGER SPOILER?

amber canyon
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I dont think its modern times

scenic comet
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Has anyone completed the pom of power entry?

amber canyon
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I do think Skelly is from the future though

scenic comet
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Let me grab it.

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SPREADING OF TIMEY-WIMEY HORSEPUCKY

pale nest
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100% modern times

runic terrace
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AAAAAAAAAAAAA HDNXNCNCNCKG

scenic comet
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... and I just completed Achilles's entry and it hurts.

frozen jolt
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ANTIOXIDANTS....

amber canyon
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Whos to say that they didnt know antioxidants back then

visual laurel
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talk to achilles more than like 3 times and you realize everything he says hurts

pale nest
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;_;

frozen jolt
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oh my god I just woke up sorry is the dusapocalypse spreading

visual laurel
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yeah :/

frozen jolt
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a

stark tulip
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dang Achilles

frozen jolt
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okay just rip out my heart like that I guess

pale nest
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Plot twist Skelly is Dusa

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I’ve never seen both in the same place

frozen jolt
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Galaxy brain theory

scenic comet
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What, Skelly's an ettin?

bleak osprey
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achilles is depresses

bleak osprey
runic terrace
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;;;0;;;

bleak osprey
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give! him! his boyfriend! back!!

runic terrace
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☝ ☝ ☝ ☝

amber canyon
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Im guessing Patroclus went into wrestling and became Achilles one true weakness

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A heel

lunar kiln
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I CANT TELL IF THIS LINE IS FAKE OR NOT

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ITS SO FUNNY

runic terrace
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ITS FAKE HFNGJG

bleak osprey
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its fake ven modded it in bc it was faster than Photoshop

lunar kiln
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(achilles voice) sorry if i sound depressing, lad. It's the depression.

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i can hear this sentence

amber canyon
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On a slight sidenote

bleak osprey
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yes that sure is what is written on the pictures

scenic comet
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@bleak osprey that emoji gif is amazing and depressing.

amber canyon
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Give Zag Stilletos and make the sword special him breakdancing while holding the sword with those stilettos, Raiden style

bleak osprey
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i have nitro and goddamnit i am gonna Use It

scenic comet
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It's an amazing way to use it.

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One server I admin on has an ojou laugh emoji too.

bleak osprey
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i also put it to good use so that i can fingerguns

pale nest
scenic comet
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I try to avoid super flashy emoji gifs for the sake of reducing seizure risk.

runic terrace
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owwwww

pale nest
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I would love Zag in heels as a weapon

runic terrace
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yeah 😔

pale nest
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Yes please

runic terrace
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hows he supposed to dash in heels jcncnvng

pale nest
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Skill

runic terrace
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jk itd be so cool

amber canyon
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Not as a weapon, have it be baseline

pale nest
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Oh man

scenic comet
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idk, they expect women to do that too!

amber canyon
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And have him have special animations where he holds all weapons with said heels

pale nest
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Hermes legendary buff

runic terrace
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A NEW WEAPON WHERE HE CARRIES HEELS AND STABS PPL W THEM

pale nest
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Shoes with wings except they’re stilettos

amber canyon
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Have him draw his bow with his feet

bleak osprey
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zagonetta

pale nest
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We should be able to spend spare darkness on fabulous new outfits for Zag

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Including high heels

stark tulip
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like the bayonetta gun boots

frozen jolt
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zagreus with a gun you

amber canyon
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No, with a shotgun

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At that point he is basically greek Doomguy

faint cave
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Just wait for them to put in Kratoses blades and watch Zagreus go on a god killing rampage

stark tulip
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out of tartaruses loudly

frozen jolt
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ahahaha

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Well as a small comfort I think he’s the only one that requires 999 more

pale nest
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That’s so many runs

scenic comet
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Yeaaaah.

amber canyon
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Thats a runderstatement

scenic comet
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One, bleep you. Two, well done.

lunar kiln
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but then you remember his full codex entry is on the wiki and you must resist the urge

pale nest
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I will resisttt

scenic comet
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I'm chill with knowing.

visual laurel
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i've gotta get into the "monthly manga release" rhythm with hades

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where i forget it exists and then get surprised when new content comes out

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I say that but it's actually impossible cuz I gotta spectate here regardless :')

runic terrace
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easy. mod that removes countdown button

visual laurel
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Kam we gotta watch the channels tho....cant forget hades exists

neat crow
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Bit behind on chat, but why do people assume the food is McDonald's? Clearly it's a gyro and fries from McCharon's

strong musk
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Charon's a time traveler and he makes modern food at home

stark tulip
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chaRONALD MCDONALD

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it’s him

runic terrace
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AAAAAAA

strong musk
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Clerk: Hello Sir, what do you need?
Charon: GHAAUKKHHHC
Clerk: Three sacks of potatoes, got it

stark tulip
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just wait till we get the art and he’s a clown

runic terrace
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CURSED

pale nest
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I would be very upset

visual laurel
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charon
cha-ron
ron
ron

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ron is also a shopkeeper,

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final art revealed and charon is just ron

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charon, pulling back his hood: ooooouuuurrrggghhh (cough, cough) oooh, ma shemta, foish!

runic terrace
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

native kindle
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he is Hades’s lackey, put there by him to help groom Zag into a proper ruler of the underworld one day!

visual laurel
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is this a new copypasta what did i miss

runic terrace
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CAUSE OF DEATH: CHAR RON

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wait is what

visual laurel
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the he is hades' lackey thing

runic terrace
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oh idk

visual laurel
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thats the second time i've seen it what have you guys been up to

stark tulip
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chair ron

runic terrace
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theyre being hades lackeys trying to help groom us to be proper mods of the server

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char ron is making me so mad bc its PLAUSIBLE

stark tulip
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Ron took the wrong river back to the commonwealth

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The image of zag peeking under charons hood and seeing basically two goblins stacked on top of each other is very good

faint cave
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Would recomend

ashen crown
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When Zag picks up daedalus hammer and says "I'll earn your favor yet", I wonder what exactly he means

brazen bane
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if hades' domain is in renovations, and super giant games is making Hades' domain

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is super giant games hades? 🤔

honest coral
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Super giant games is just the contracted company

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Also hey coilean 👋

sour stone
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Supergiant Games the Utopian Megacorp of fantasy realms

onyx spoke
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The year is 2287. Contrary to popular belief, technology is not the leading product of the world's biggest corporations, but fantasy, in its pure, unviolated form

ashen crown
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alright I feel like I'm missing something dumb but I need to ask. How do I get behind the counter in the lounge?

earnest mesa
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dash!

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@ashen crown

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dw don't feel dumb i got behind the counter accidentally by dashing through it
and then spent a minute trying to get back out 😂

ashen crown
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haha, I tried doing the weird roll you do when you don't have a weapon, didn't think to try the dash though dusa

earnest mesa
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np!

sick grove
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Skewered meg. Didn't get hit once. And during her lose animation, her VO delivered an amazing "not again" line or something like that. So much disappointment expressed in that line. Made me frown. I'm sorry Meg. I hope I can help change your outlook on the job you dislike, if only a little.

distant current
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i failed to beat the hydra with what i considered, the strongest builds with my spear (zeus, artemis, aris boons) then went ahead and smashed it twice with a weird aphrodite and a poseidon build.. anyone made the same experience?

round canyon
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I am yet to beat that thing...

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The second time the small heads appear seems to be my kriptonite

distant current
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what did the trick for me is to dash a lot. i mean REALLY a lot. i hardly stand still at all during the fight.. also i think it is better to not tunnel on one small head because there will be a lot of lava stacking there; for me it was easier to run circles and to poke each head a bit with the pointy end of my spear

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but could all be wrong and i just got lucky lol

glacial oxide
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nah dashing alot seems to do the trivk, for me i try to clear out one side, then you get a safe zone

stable smelt
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You need to remember that different colored heads have different abilities, for example the green ones spawn skeletons so imho it's better to kill em first

distant current
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haha i haven't even noticed, that's a great tip. thank you

ashen crown
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you can also just destroy the smoking red eggs they spit out before the bloodless spawn from them

earnest mesa
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ye the little countdowns spawn stuff

glacial oxide
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is there anyone else who have gotten to the point where dusa gets yelled at by nyx? (think it happens after you've given dusa 6 gifts)

pale nest
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Yup!

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Poor Dusa 😦

glacial oxide
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ye

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does she go back to the way she used to be?

pale nest
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Yup!

glacial oxide
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yey :D, she seems so sad now though :/

fickle garden
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weird question but do you think you'll include an option in the ending to take dusa along with you when you escape? i mean she's way too precious and cute to leave behind, it'd be a crime to abandon her.

main ivy
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I feel like, as a severed head, she might have trouble surviving in the world of the living

fickle garden
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i dunno, they could add like an optional quest line (somehow) where you can get her a body and if you do that you can take her along, or maybe they'll do that for all the characters where if you max out the hearts on their codex page you have the option of taking them with you when you escape, but you can only take one character

neat crow
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People really just want the DLC (Dusa Lovable Content)

fickle garden
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i'm glad i'm not the only one who believes dusa to be best girl

main ivy
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That's not a question of belief, it is one of fact

pale nest
sleek cape
fickle garden
faint cave
stable smelt
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Guys does anyone have screenshot with fully upgraded mirror?

distant current
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is there a cap to the bottom two mirrior upgrades?

ashen crown
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yeah, they cap at +50 and +25% increase

fluid valley
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i can do a screenshot with a mostly upgraded mirror if that helps

distant current
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it bothers me that you are 17% ind rare and 16% in epic instead of trying to max either of the two first!

fluid valley
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hah!

pine zealot
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wow i didnt expect those last two mirror upgrades to go that high

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I'm assuming they max out at 20%?

ashen crown
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50 and 25

pine zealot
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J E E Z

ashen crown
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yep

elfin dock
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Oh wow

fair zephyr
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guess this gives a reason to farm easy wins 😃

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MAX EVERYTHING 😄

stable smelt
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@fluid valley thanks

fair zephyr
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do you guys know if keys will have any further use?

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I wish I could do something with all the extras

neat crow
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Not at the moment

distant current
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there will be at least the new weapons you can already see the sockets of

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but for now they are absolutely useless haha

fair zephyr
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yeah, but the current weps only cost like 7 keys total. i need something more juicy to sink keys into

neat crow
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There have been plenty of suggestions for alternate uses of extra keys/darkness/ambrosia. Feel free to browse the #hades-feedback channel and give a 👍 to any you agree with

fair zephyr
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thanks

neat crow
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It's also early days, so they could still rebalance the cost of key unlocks as the game is made longer as well

eternal ibex
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anyone reveal the origin of the name zagreus?

neat crow
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It's from Greek mythology

elfin dock
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Zagreus is a kinda obscure figure in Greek mythology comparable to Dionysus

neat crow
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I remember waaay back in this channel there was a whole discussion about it 😆

pale nest
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The son of Zeus and Persephone I think?

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Who got killed off and was too pure for this world

distant current
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i deliberately chose not to check on the greek mythology behind it so i wouldn't know who his mother was

pale nest
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He had several mothers in mythology

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He was reborn

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Greek mythology is weird

neat crow
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Yeah, depending whose account you're going off of, Greek mythology can be interpreted in a variety of ways

distant current
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maybe I am Zagreus then? because according to some teenagers across the street, I seem to have a lot of different mothers, all of whom tend to be very overweight

pale nest
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Semele was impregnated with him when zeus gave her Zag’s heart to drink

eternal ibex
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And Zagreus reborn has Bacchus 😉

distant current
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dear lord

eternal ibex
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and i think Supergiant choose this story

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several eements show this

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and i supposed the end of the game is to defeat hades but you die for that

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and Zeus reborn you

distant current
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ye or you, Meg, Dusa and Skelly make for the world of the mortals and live a happy life on a Greek farm

pale nest
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Don’t leave sisyphus behind ;_;

neat crow
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Sisyphus would never leave Bouldy

pale nest
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Bring Bouldy too!

distant current
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he could never leave his boulder

pale nest
neat crow
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Bouldy's nature kind of means that you can't bring it, though

pale nest
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If they all teamed up

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I bet they could push Bouldy to the top

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Through the power of friendship

distant current
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or they could attack dusa to bouldy and it would be a way out of proportion snowman without legs

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then they'd realise that it made no sense whatsoever and undo it

brazen bane
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Playing hades makes me want gyros

elfin dock
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Spicy take: a reformed man, Sisy learns he doesn't need Boudy any more and joins you in leaving the underworld. Bittersweet and compelling character development. A meaningful romance. Impeccably gay

brazen bane
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They are so good ;.;

neat crow
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Mmmmm, gyros

pale nest
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Bouldy deserves happiness

distant current
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you need that gyros and chips from that dodgy Italian restaurant down the street for maximum immersion

eternal ibex
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go Meg-reus!

atomic forge
runic terrace
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well hades maybe you should try standing somewhere else when the lout punches you

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............we need a hypnos emote actually

elfin dock
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I love that cutscene. It really punches you in the gut

eager geyser
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uh. i didn't get that one yet

eternal ibex
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it's in the myth: zeus and poseidon trick hades with the "great vast world "

bleak osprey
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i got one where hades said shut that foolish mouth of yours or i shall shutit for you and i just kind of silently stared at my screen for a little after that

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like. oof.

elfin dock
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;^;

pale nest
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Everyone is just so saaaad

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Other than Hypnos, who’s just sleepy

frozen jolt
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Wow that cutscene

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Just like mitski said

stark tulip
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Mitski is the voice of the fate weavers

visual laurel
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ok unpopular opinion i guess lol, but i don't think meg is tsundere, she's just, like, understandably bitter and stressed and angry with zag in addition to presumably having fond memories of him as well
she's conflicted and upset, that's not. tsundere, really
like that first dialogue comes off that way kind of but it's a disservice to her character to flatten her like that

frozen jolt
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Thank you ven

runic terrace
pale nest
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She thought they were siblings but now that’s all a lie and she has to either kill him or be killed over and over

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I’d be conflicted and upset

sleek cape
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Medusa woke af

stark tulip
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Prediction: Apollo is going to be like Tom Haverford from Parks & Rec

ebon musk
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howcome they decided to make hydra's homing arrows, the most annoying projectile, the one that can't be stopped

sick grove
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Shield can block em. Just can't reflect em. I wonder if that color-usage will be associated with future rooms for more irreflectable projectiles.

visual laurel
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i've been watching wanderbots' lp of hades and while he hasn't...yet...realized that giving ambrosia after the first unlocks more dialogue eventually, what's really wild is that when i played the first time i was like "oh neat achilles is here! luv that mythological figure"
and now every time he opens his mouth i'm like oh. oh he's profoundly sad. how did i miss that the first time.

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zag: artemis called and said she's a real fan of yours! you're the best.
achilles: oh...that's cool but she remembers me as i was, i'm all washed up now. :^)

queen sierra
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my first thought was "oh no cute boy" followed immediately by "oh a DEPRESSED cute boy"

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cant wait for artemis to physically manifest in hades and ask for achilles autograph

elfin dock
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i live solely for achilles's content

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i need him and artemis to meet so bad

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zag, dragging achilles out of hades: WHERES MY COUSIN

visual laurel
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depressing achilles lines, on a scale from "i'm all washed up" to solo drinking to "i wouldn't forgive me if i were him" to "i am unmade, unwhole", how's YOUR depression today

lime yoke
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;-;

fickle garden
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achilles is sad boi, hypnos is funny boi, hades is big boi, meg is bird girl, dusa is best girl

cold canopy
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im sitting at about a "go to your room, lad"

visual laurel
#

valid

queen sierra
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petition to make "sorry if i sound depressed, lad. its the depression." canon

elfin dock
#

📝

queen sierra
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we need to throw achilles an appreciation party. i refuse to believe he is not beloved in the palace

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how can you look at this human version of a sad golden retriever and NOT love him

elfin dock
#

give achilles his boyfriend back

visual laurel
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i mean i modded it into the game so all we need is voice acting for it

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i would say he's undoubtedly well-liked but with the caveat of "by the staff"

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considering how many people he, you know

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slaughtered

elfin dock
#

sh sh sh

fickle garden
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there need to be side quests in the game where you throw achilles a party, make cerberus into an even better dogo, and go on a dating sim style date with dusa

visual laurel
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i don't think he has many friends among the shades

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he alienated a lot of his comrades in the trojan war too

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by being prideful

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but obviously zag appreciates him a lot, and i think it's safe to say most of the other staff would as well, but he undoubtedly can't or doesn't see it that way

queen sierra
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a shade yells at achilles and everyone is IMMEDIATELY pvp enabled

visual laurel
#

Y EAH

elfin dock
#

asdfghjkk

queen sierra
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hades himself is like "boi just cause u in hades doesnt mean i cant kill you again"

visual laurel
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tho achilles would want to hear it bc he'd think he deserves it

queen sierra
#

GENTLY SMACKS ACHILLES

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U STOP THAT!!!

visual laurel
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it's the depression, lad

cold canopy
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its up to us to be a good LAD

queen sierra
#

hades does your palace employment cover anti depressants

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also has darren ever voice acted in previous games? hes doing a lot here but i cant seem to remember if he has before.....

atomic forge
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Achilles has nam-style flashbacks to the war

visual laurel
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he was tariq

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in pyre

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i think he may have voiced zulf too but don't quote me on that, i don't know anything about bastion

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ok he voiced rukey, tariq aaaand...udmildhe? in pyre lol

queen sierra
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me, hasnt played pyre in a while: ah yes.... udmildhe...... my favourite??

visual laurel
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tariq was his big role gkdjfgd i was honestly expecting him to voice orpheus too and then when it was michael i was surprised

pale ridge
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Darren was Zulf but Zulf never spoke any lines

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Also I think _____'s singing voice in trna?

wet smelt
#

is darren just perfect at everythign

visual laurel
#

yeah he was mr. nobody's singing voice in paper boats; mufti was asking about va tho

lime yoke
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he's such a great Zag tho

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a really nice voice

queen sierra
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OHHHH i thought that might have been him in that song, but i wasnt sure....

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yeah when i found out he voice acted i was like ??? WHAT?????

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he writes he sings he voice acts whats next?? hes on the ART TEAM TOO

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hes really good at it too like damn what doesnt this guy do

shrewd canyon
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Tfw no Ashley though

atomic forge
crimson dock
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i just want to make it to olympus and go hunting with artemis and the two of us act snarky to all the other gods

bleak osprey
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i love my dorky huntress who doesnt really know how to people

south owl
#

I wonder what her twin will be like - am thinking Apollo might have healing-type boons

honest coral
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There are some notes on Apollo's personality in the game files

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If anyone is interested, DM me since mods don't want datamined stuff in this server

visual laurel
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👍

south owl
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Apollo, Hephaestus, Hermes, Demeter, and Dionysus are the remainder that I suspect will definitely make an appearance. Would like to see some of the other gods, though. I'd love to see Hestia and Hekate - as that would give us the four main virgin goddesses (and really, it would be awesome to see some cool synergies between the boons of those four).

late nacelle
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Synergistic boons would be amazing, especially as the gods already bring up something about the other gods you've got that run

south owl
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I also wonder if they are using the Trojan War as a means to decide which gods/goddesses like/dislike each other.

late nacelle
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I'm not too sure, weren't Aphrodite and Poseidon on the same side but I'm pretty sure I've seen dialogue of them not getting along

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Actually dw, idek i've seen a lot of conflicting opinions online

frozen jolt
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aphrodite and artemis definitely hate each other, if that helps

late nacelle
#

I feel like that's their personalities haha

visual laurel
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the trojan war was gods know how many years in the past from this timeline, and the gods always find new things to fight about so imo while it might make sense to have some bad blood over troy, it's far from the biggest or only conflict the gods have had and it wouldn't make sense to base all their relationships on that

late nacelle
#

I feel like for synergies sake, it might also work if the gods don't get along

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Like they're competing to see who can do better

pale nest
#

I still think this is taking place in modern times

faint cave
#

I think it's just "after" the greek mythology so any1 dead is dead and no1 new is there unless they decide to do cross game refrences

sonic lichen
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Zag’s true desire is to get an iPhone but Hades is being all old fashioned and said no

faint cave
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But daaaad this is the newest model and its totally worse than the previous one

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No boi!

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You are not my father! cries outside of house of hades

runic terrace
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zag has a flip phone and he hates it

bleak osprey
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okay but having a flip phone means he can clack it shut whenever he hangs up on his dad

cold canopy
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and if its a nokia even the depths of tartarus couldnt manage to break it

runic terrace
#

zag gets an iPhone and still folds it in half when he hangs up on hades

cold canopy
#

cronch

runic terrace
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"oops"

neat crow
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Needs the new iPhold

robust remnant
#

FBLKJFSDGBLJFSKGHSH

lunar kiln
#

that one video of a guy folding his toy phone like he's done with everything

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that's zag

frozen jolt
#

finally beat the hydra without broken/bugged upgrades and boons 💪

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just by playing carefully and well

pine zealot
#

wait what counts as broken/bugged stuff?

runic terrace
#

👏 🙌 ❗

quasi sedge
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Yeah, beat Hydra for the first time myself earlier today - felt so good X3
Thought it was because of Athena's legendary boon... which certainly helped!
But then the very next run I did it with a completely different weapon and boon set XD

frozen jolt
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life drinker counts as broken

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sweet surrender counted as bugged (was applying twice the amount damage it should have)

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both of those have been fixed or removed so i had to beat the game with my Skill instead of brute forcing it and exploiting bugs lol

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this was a pretty powerful loadout though

amber canyon
#

Close to perfect, in fact

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Only missing extra damage on crits

pale nest
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Life drinker was def ridic

amber canyon
#

I thought it sucked tbh

pale nest
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I hadn’t even beat Meg, then I got life drinker and completed my first run

amber canyon
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It wasnt very good in boss fights, and normal rooms are a cakewalk as is

quasi sedge
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It was weird, now that I think about it
In the first run I beat the Hydra with, I got Athena's legendary boon
In the second, I got Aphrodite's AND Artemis' legendary boon... not sure how I got that lucky XD

pale nest
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I’ve only ever gotten one legendary boon ;_; The Zeus one

amber canyon
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Ive had Aphros and Artemis

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Artemis is good

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Aphros didnt ... seem to do anything?

quasi sedge
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...Yeah I didn't notice if it did, either
If it did, I killed the converted enemy too

amber canyon
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If it isnt bugged, its definitely not visible enough

south owl
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Flip phones are coming back! There's one company that's planning on coming out with one (can't remember which company at the moment, tho)

icy urchin
#

artemis is the worlds first incel change my mind

pale ridge
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I don't think it's exactly "involuntary"

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Given that in mythology she proxy-murdered people who tried to sleep with her in ironic ways

pale nest
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Pretty sure it’s very voluntary

pale ridge
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Yeah

royal hawk
#

wouldn't she be asexual rather than an incel? 🤔

vagrant nova
#

Voluntary celibacy doesn't necessarily mean asexuality either though, though, perhaps.

pastel compass
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I feel like trying to give a big ol' ancient god a label is an exercise in futility

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Especially with dionysus just boning the entire universe somewhere off screen

icy urchin
#

its not entirely voluntary

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there was that guy her brother killed

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and she plead zues to put him in the stars

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it was only after that she asked to be made one of the virgin goddesses

royal hawk
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As futile as labeling any fictional character I suppose 🤷

pastel compass
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Thats why she so good at huntin

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Got to get good enough to hunt that star booty thanks to her dumb ass brother

south owl
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Maybe we could avoid reducing Artemis to solely existing to "hunt booty?" or as an incel? There is far more to life than sex.

visual laurel
#

Yeah let's uhhh not, on this whole discussion
Discord died on me or I would've been on this sooner but.

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Hey look, a topic change!
What's everyone looking forward to in the upcoming update?

runic terrace
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more sprites 🙌 ❗

cold canopy
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seconded sprites

runic terrace
#

more heart convos! maybe another flashback!!

cold canopy
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maybe a new weapon

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a sord perhaps

runic terrace
#

ooooh new weapon

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sord...TWO

south owl
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I'm waiting for an Obol sprite so I can give people an Obol for good comments 😃

runic terrace
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tbh when sgg gets back i wana suggest obol coin emote to them

south owl
#

Yes!!

visual laurel
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ohohohoho new weaponssss

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give! sisyphus! a! sprite!

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i'm hoping maybe they'll lengthen and/or balance existing stages too

south owl
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It would be cool if there was a way to lengthen your run through a stage if you wanted to try and get more boons/health, etc. Maybe they could code that in - add in more two-choice rooms that deliberately let you decide to postpone getting to Meg (or the Hydra, or whatever) longer.

cold canopy
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is it too early to hope for another floor?

visual laurel
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i feel like it may be too early for a whole nother area, yeah 🤔

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but they may change the structure of what they have

south owl
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Probably depends on how many areas they plan to have total

runic terrace
#

imagine. blood gate update where it puts you right in front of a boss but with half health

cold canopy
#

after the update everything seems the same until you die

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then you get home and hades just throws his desk and says LETS GO SON THROW EM UP

vagrant nova
#

There's also the idea that if there's enough content to an idea they might consider full DLC at some point?

runic terrace
#

AND IT TURNS INTO A FIGHTING GAME

pastel compass
#

I personally would like to see daedalus hammers drop sooner, The can define a run so much by changing the way your weapon works and i always have my best runs when i boon around my weapons upgrade

nimble stone
#

Wait what’s this I’m hearing about a second flashback?

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Is there a second flashback?

visual laurel
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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first im hearing of it

runic terrace
#

zag: supergiants asleep go to bed a second time

brazen bane
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"so you are looking for your cousin?"
"no .. my mother"
"yeah .. yeah you are"

ripe bloom
#

I really like the way they referenced Judgement of Paris from the Troy myth

crisp basin
#

You don't think they will add a new act/floor? My guess is a new weapon and a new floor and if fancy enough a new god also. I'm not sure if this is too much work for 40 days tho. I just hope for that.

icy urchin
#

I imagine at least some is being held in reserve

fickle garden
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my guess for a new god would be hermes. would give some obvious choices for upgrades like more movement speed which would be nice, or more attack speed for weapons, maybe even granting wind based effects somehow.

late nacelle
#

I think they'll be adding around 3 new gods

lyric vector
#

rly?

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what's the names?

fickle garden
#

pretty sure if they add a new weapon it's gonna be ranged, bow right now is the only pure ranged weapon we have so far

late nacelle
#

I'm really hoping for a grimoire weapon

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It works with the lore and I really like the idea of it

fickle garden
#

"i'm gonna throw THE BOOK at you!"

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but yeah, that'd honestly be cool

late nacelle
#

They might also add a melee only weapon, as the sword is the only melee only

lyric vector
#

spear?

late nacelle
#

Cronos scythe or something 👀

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Spear has special

lyric vector
#

well yes

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but it's weak

late nacelle
#

true true

fickle garden
#

honestly i think the sword is the worst weapon in the game right now, being only close ranged puts you in a really dangerous spot for alot of situations

late nacelle
#

I think it depends on how you play

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For me the shield is the worst weapon

fickle garden
#

really? that's the best one imo

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like what's bad about it?

late nacelle
#

Hahaha, it's really cool that a game is made so that theres no overwhelming weapon

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I really dislike the normal hit

fickle garden
#

really?

late nacelle
#

And the special becomes almost redundant in aspho and hydra

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Bull rush is alright

lyric vector
#

yes

fickle garden
#

well yeah, the special becomes bad in really large open rooms

lyric vector
#

what about bow?

late nacelle
#

I like bow

lyric vector
#

what's so good about it?

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long range?

fickle garden
#

but i find if you get posiden upgrade on your attack, ares upgrade on your special, the sheild just tears stuff up

late nacelle
#

Recently Ive changed from auto aim to not, as i use controller

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So Im not as good

fickle garden
#

there's auto fire?

late nacelle
#

Sorry

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Auto aim

fickle garden
#

i see

lyric vector
#

I like the spear most

fickle garden
#

spear is good yeh

lyric vector
#

I just spam normal

fickle garden
#

OH

late nacelle
#

Or charge and then dash

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For major AOE damage

lyric vector
#

yes

fickle garden
#

you know what they should add as a weapon!?

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DUSA!

late nacelle
#

Stop

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I dont want her to get hurt

fickle garden
#

let dusa tag along with you as you escape

late nacelle
#

I'm surprised that they didn't add some sort of paralysis in the Daedalus for aegis

fickle garden
#

you point her at enemeys as a ray or something and it hurts them and turns them to stone

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it's perfect!

late nacelle
#

Due to lore wise it has medusa's face on it

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I think

fickle garden
#

and gives a reason why they can be together!

lyric vector
#

do you guys have any advice how to beat hydra?

fickle garden
#

well i saw this one video where a guy did a crit dash build with spear to kill it

late nacelle
#

When the hydra head moves to the middle of the arena (its resting spot) hide

fickle garden
#

i haven't killed hydra yet myself tho

late nacelle
#

Those arrows that stunlock are annoying af

lyric vector
#

yes

#

sometime they come trough the pillars

late nacelle
#

Hide behind the black walls

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Also

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The pots

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Drop health

lyric vector
#

?

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rly

late nacelle
#

Yup

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You can get about 10-15 health from each pot

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In the hydra battle

lyric vector
#

I got hydra to quarter of health

late nacelle
#

It might not seem like much, but the amount of times I've beaten hydra on like 4 health is too many haha

frozen jolt
#

i havent noticed the pots for the longest time

lyric vector
#

and then I got hit by the thingi

frozen jolt
#

i thought hitting the pillars gave health lol

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but theyre like skulls with shiny gemstone eyes

fickle garden
#

ay mod-dusa, should supergiant add Dusa as the next weapon in the game?

lyric vector
#

what is the best keepsake?

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I like to us old spike collar

late nacelle
#

@frozen jolt can you add to the hades channels? I think a poll channel would be cool maybe?

fickle garden
#

hmm, i think the one that gives 130 percent damage to distant foes if you're running certain builds

frozen jolt
#

i cant do that, sorry!

fickle garden
#

that or the buffs that give you affinity with your favorite god

frozen jolt
#

poll channel though? how do you mean

late nacelle
#

Idk if discord has polls

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But people set up a question, with answers

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And others vote on it

fickle garden
#

i see

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so maybe a channel where people post petitions and people vote on them?

late nacelle
#

For example chiar asked about the fave keepsake

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So people would vote for their fave keepsake

fickle garden
#

and i'm pushing for dusa to be an unlockable weapon

frozen jolt
#

also dusa is duty bound to cleaning the house, not cleaning up wretches, but i do think having the hammer make enemies freeze occasionally with the shield is a cool idea

digital gulchBOT
#

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

frozen jolt
#

oh proxy

late nacelle
#

LMAOO

#

Proxy u goof

fickle garden
#

oh come on, you know they could work around that, dusa is precious and she needs to help zag escape

late nacelle
#

Cease trying to put her in danger

fickle garden
#

also if the ending of the game does not let you take dusa along with you, someone is going out the window. be like if in Pyre if they didn't let you take sandra along with you.

late nacelle
#

Idk if they would do that in a rogue lite

#

It'd kinda ruin replayability

#

Idk

fickle garden
#

what if in the ending, you have an option to take someone along with you? and it can be any of the characters in the main hub?

#

that way it encourages replaying for the ending to see the different results?

#

i'm odd balling here

late nacelle
#

So are you saying

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That after the ending

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They get teleported back to the house of hades

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Even though you just brought them along with you?

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SGG kinda put themselves in a predicament by adding lore to a roguelite haha

fickle garden
#

well it's a rouge lite, there has to be a reason for why you can still do runs in the game after you've beaten it storywise, or maybe it can warp you to before you actually beat time wise so it doesn't clash with things

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like what i'm thinking is that in the ending they go "oh also just take someone with you for some reason" and the ending changes depending on who you take, that'd honestly be kinda sweet

late nacelle
#

It all depends how they do the floor theme

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If they do you get out of hell

fickle garden
#

true

late nacelle
#

And then have to fight olympus

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(which imo would be really cool)

#

Or perhaps it ends with you getting out of hell

fickle garden
#

oh man, that'd be awesome

late nacelle
#

Or maybe you fight gaia and uranus

#

There's so many options

#

With greek mythology

fickle garden
#

oh what if when you get out of the underworld, you get a new hub and have to fight towards olympus for what ever reason, and the peopel you are getting blessings from are everyone back from the underworld hub, including hades!

late nacelle
#

That'd be cool

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Dusa blessings :0

fickle garden
#

AND DUSA GIVES YOU BUFFS

#

altough what would they involve....

#

something with slowing eneimes or giving more stun time?

lyric vector
#

speed?

late nacelle
#

The only problem with that, is that they'd effectively have to make '12' other god boons

#

And also it kinda goes against rogue like traditions

#

But also it's their game so they can do it how they like

fickle garden
#

maybe they could make the boons you already have, coraspond with other characters from the underworld

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like, artimis boon also works with dusa

late nacelle
#

I don't think they could do that, just because it'd feel offplace having achillies per se give you zues lightning or w/e

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Idk

fickle garden
#

true

late nacelle
#

As you said before though, I would love hades boons

fickle garden
#

you get the powers of grumpy dad

late nacelle
#

We haven't even seen what Hades can do power-wise yet

#

I would love to see it

fickle garden
#

pretty obvious he'll be the final boss, also if he is it'll be really funny to see the dioaloge you get when you lose to him and talk to him and the other people around the hub and see their reactions

late nacelle
#

Final boss........ of the underworld 😉

fickle garden
#

we can dream

late nacelle
#

Gimme dat olympian boss rush

fickle garden
#

just like how i can dream that dusa and zag otp will be cannon.....

lyric vector
#

what if in the end, someone in the staff betrays you?

late nacelle
#

Achillies would hurt me if he betrayed

fickle garden
#

hmmm, my money would be on either nyx or hypnos.

late nacelle
#

Hypnos doesnt care enough to lol

fickle garden
#

altough if i have to be honest, dusa would make for a really great and surprising twist

late nacelle
#

Nyx seems the least happy at hades, but idk if that's just her character

lyric vector
#

you and your Dusa

#

don't you think about anything else?

fickle garden
#

no seriously, dusa betraying you would actually be a great twist

#

no one would see it coming

lyric vector
#

and how would it be?

#

Dusa turning it Medusa?

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and fighting you

fickle garden
#

yeah exactly

lyric vector
#

also

#

there should be more type of traps

fickle garden
#

what about stuff messes with your movement?

#

like a tar pit trap that reduces your movement speed and prevents you from dashing

lyric vector
#

yas

late nacelle
#

I'm pretty sure I've seen a swinging axe drawn up as an aesthetic

#

That'd be a pretty cool trap

fickle garden
#

wat? where did you find that?

late nacelle
#

Not find, I might be wrong

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But when I was watching the dev hell documentary I might've seen it?

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I'll have a look

lyric vector
#

can you beat hydra with no boons

fickle garden
#

playing the game with no boons sounds unfun to be honest, would make for a good challenge mode tho

late nacelle
#

Someone is trying to beat the hydra first playthrough of a new save

#

So no mirror upgrades

#

And with the sword

#

I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get to the hydra without boons due to you being made to take one at some point maybe

fickle garden
#

yeah pretty sure you have to take one at some point

lyric vector
#

well

fickle garden
#

also just off topic but i really love the introduction to the game

lyric vector
#

what IF

late nacelle
#

SGG always adds restriction challenges to their games

fickle garden
#

doesn't explain anything, don't what's going on, you just keep going till you die and then you find out what's happening

late nacelle
#

I reckon Hades will have something like that

fickle garden
#

was really cool

distant current
#

i don't agree that hades will be the final boss. he once said that he's been trying to get out of the underworld himself so it would be unrealistic if he was guarding the exit to the mortal world

#

by the way, did anyone use aphrodite's legendary yet? when I did I could not tell if it worked at all as I had no idea whatsoever whom I charmed and who was just randomly jumping around

late nacelle
#

I've had it once, but I can't tell if I was unlucky and it never worked or what

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I got it quite late game

distant current
#

same here that's why i didn't put it in feedback

late nacelle
#

I'll try running some Aphro builds later to get it and let you know if I find out!

distant current
#

thanks mate! good luck!

distant current
#

what's the biggest single damage number you have seen? i just hit a skelebomber for 1,308 damage (clean kill, crippling blow, lvl 2 hunter dash, lvl 4 tempest strike, world splitter, skull earring) - disgusting

crimson dock
#

aphro's legendary is weird

candid bear
#

1600 on a spear spin crit with extra armor dmg

distant current
#

dear lord.. and i thought this build was OP - i was twohitting the hydra's heads

candid bear
#

That was with op dite

frozen jolt
#

around 800

late nacelle
#

OP dite was insane

#

The numbers were just so high haha

crimson dock
#

oof op dite was the good ol days

#

back when every run id go dite and hunter dash no questions asked

visual laurel
#

god i miss op dite

fickle garden
#

dite was op? i'm not familiar with past verisons of the game, how was dite op?

candid bear
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One of the highest attack mods in the game, as well as sweet surrender, which increased your attack dmg without talking your attack boon slot

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Same reason hunters dash is broken, you get to stack buffs without taking up a dmg boon slot

visual laurel
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Sweet surrender had a multiplicative buff instead of additive

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It was...wild

dim oriole
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If they do add more traps, hopefully they would add boons that would use the traps to our advantage or just give us resistance or immunities to certain ones. Would have been cool if Achilles would have given us his resistance and weakness as an arrogant some how, in that way only traps could damage us, and make it so we get one shotted from a spike trap

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Would be op tho for long range people who don’t move

south owl
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Dear gods, please no more traps! I am awful at avoiding them already! LOL

stable smelt
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Those wall arrows are actually pretty good against enemies. I hardly ever get shot by them but foes like to step on them a lot.

honest coral
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100 dmg too

ebon musk
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finally killed that hydra yay i beat the current version

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my boons consisted of the defense from athena, the cast and revenge lightning from zeus, and numerous artemis critical based things

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i had a 102% chance to do 170% more damage, and i had triple shot

pale nest
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Very nice

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I have yet to beat hydra with bow

azure island
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Oof, the purple projectiles on the hydra annihilate me.

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The stunlock! amoeboid

grave cipher
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@fickle garden The introduction and story of the game are styled after Homer's Illiad or Odyssey. They start with a single idea that tells the whole story; for Hades it's "Escape", for Illiad it's Rage. They start in the middle of the story with details from the true beginning of the story revealed as you progress. I'm interested to see how pronounced other elements become as the story develops more.

azure island
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@devout token the name Zagreus is ascribed to 3 different fellows - the son of Hades and Persephone, the highest lord of all underworld and husband of Gaia, and an equivalent of Dionisus in the Orphic tradition.

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In ancient Greek religion and mythology, Zagreus (Greek: Ζαγρεύς) was sometimes identified with a god worshipped by the followers of Orphism, the “first Dionysus”, a son of Zeus and Persephone, who was dismembered by the Titans and reborn. However, in the earliest ...

late nacelle
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From everything I've read

devout token
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It's Zeus in that article though

late nacelle
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Has said its zeus and persephone

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Ye

devout token
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I mean I'm sure Supergiant is taking some creative liberties regarding the mythology already

azure island
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Both are in there.

late nacelle
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But everythign ive read has also said hades

azure island
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The biggest creative liberty I noticed is Ares's mightily rad sidecut. amoeboid

late nacelle
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Zagreus seems to be a mysterious character in greek mythology

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AND YE

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Im so glad they redid ares art

azure island
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I mean, the previous one was obviously placeholder.

late nacelle
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I wish if i upgraded my sword with the ares boon it'd look like his

devout token
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Speaking of which Ares is missing his icon in the Codex

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Known issue ye?

proven quest
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LOL

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i just bought atena boon from charon, got option to get 500 obols XD

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so plus 300 ;d

pale nest
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Niiice

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Solid profits

proven quest
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well since it was just before hydra it didn't help me

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just got additional ambrosia and darkness

tawdry island
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lol

fluid valley
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I also used aphrodite's legendary today and had no idea if it ever went off (i'm color blind, so I may have missed something)

amber canyon
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Im not colourblind, and I didnt see it either, so its not just you

onyx spoke
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I haven't seen a legendnary boon yet

amber canyon
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I think they have prerequisites

crimson dock
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Aphros legendary has a very small color difference and the circle moves slightly differently when it procs, the most obvious interaction is the affected mob doesn’t attack you. It’s pretty easy to miss tbh

vast junco
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i feel like the hydra fight is around 40% just standing behind the cover, and hoping that no missile goes randomly through it

distant current
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tip for the missiles (when fighting the main head): stand close to the head, the missiles will all face your position at the point of cast - so the closer you are the easier it is for you to dodge them all by just dashing sideways

atomic forge
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That head slam that hits through the wall 🙃

ashen crown
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You can control whether his shots will hit you behind cover, and you can also dodge if they are going to wrap around

pale nest
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My strat is just dashing and hoping

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Works out surprisingly well

tawdry island
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lol

sleek cape
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Really i find the hydra fight well though out

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You really should always be doing something

ashen crown
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final set of heads seems a bit much to me, like I kind of have to power through with high dps and stockpilied hp until I've killed one or two at least. But that might just be more room for improvement for me

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otherwise I think it's solid

onyx spoke
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yeah the fight's great until the end where it has more visual effects than Beat Hazard on dubstep

sleek cape
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Wooos

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Ps

pine cliff
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I definitely keep losing my character a bit on the final phase

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as in visually

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I also die but w/e

pale nest
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Just dash

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And hope

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EZ

idle peak
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^

pale nest
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I always try to grab Athena dash to make this strat viable

idle peak
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First time when i killed hydra i was like "wow" after that i killed her like 10 times in a row

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no more wow

pale nest
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I’m still just at 4, not having much luck with shield or bow

distant current
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try the spear mate!

pale nest
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Yeah, spear is 2 of them 😛

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And sword is the other 2

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But I can’t seem to win with shield or bow

modern loom
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Any tips for beating Megara?

late nacelle
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@modern loom scroll up a bit in gameplay

stable smelt
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@idle peak so stop playing and wait for full release :v

silk fern
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Okay I seriously don't get how to approach the final boss

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the flurry of homing missiles is just crazy

sick grove
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Don't stand in the middle.

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Consider blinking behind the array of projectiles as well! Utilize cover, and clear space for yourself.

idle peak
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its current state.. The fact how it is right now

silk fern
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The play space is tiny and the missiles follow behind cover

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just feels so hectic

sick grove
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You'll find your way through. It takes practice! Even the follow up spread of the missiles can be kited with a few dash dances around.

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"When you've spent thirty years entering rooms filled with strangers you feel less pressure than when you've had only half that number of years of experience. You know what the room and the people in it probably hold for you and you go looking for it. If it's not there, you sense it earlier and leave to go about your business. You just know more about what is, what isn't, and how little time there is to learn the difference."

  • Dan Simmons, Hyperion

Pretty apt description of rogue games in general.

tawdry island
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lol

silk fern
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Yay, Hydra down!

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admittedly a bit of a cheeky boon set up so it didn't feel fully earned but hey ho

neat crow
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Congrats!

silk fern
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My arrows were just a ticking time bomb death machine 😂

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I was kinda annoyed with myself in hindsight because I got the hammer super early on, and I picked the 'higher damage, slower charge time' option

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If I'd picked the 'attack splits into 3' option I'd have cheesed it SO hard

neat crow
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Triple Shot pennyPleased

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Still got the win, though, and that's what matters 😉

silk fern
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I kinda wish there was a mode that let you pick and choose boons, to get the perfect combo to try thinkingwithblobs

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Hell yeah, now just super eager for more

neat crow
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I think that's in the feedback somewhere, if you want to find it and give a 👍

ashen crown
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I really love instant-charge combined with Ares boon, just tag things every second or so, the regular bow damage doesnt even matter

sly roost
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Hmm

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I just kill the Hydra and died, is it normal ? 😂

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Nvm got the congrats screen

gusty pond
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What is the trigger to second rest?

frozen jolt
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there is no second rest afaik

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if im understanding correctly

pale nest
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I’ve never gotten a second one at least

honest coral
viral pagoda
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is it me or enemies are super tanky in this game

honest coral
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They get pretty tanky later in the game unless you have a good build

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Also the sword has a long ttk

sleek cape
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Sword and sheild prolly the longest ttks rn

viral pagoda
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ares + bow is pretty good huh

honest coral
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Yeah the delayed damage is really nice with the piercing

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Probably works best on bow/spear

viral pagoda
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yeah, but bow + spread + ares really make crowd control so easy

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just finished a run ignoring all the other boons and going for that ares tag

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160+ damage with spread bow is disgusting

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also gotta love how they kinda broke the fourth wall but didn't with hades' post hydra convo

sly roost
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I had Ares tag 120 damage & +100% after each bounce for the shield, I just rekt things

fickle garden
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my prediction for the next weapon is that it will stright up be a gun, and everyone but zag keeps questioning just what it is and why it's in the underworld.

wind spoke
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"A mortal weapon, you say? Well, it's not like I've never wanted one..."

tawdry island
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lol

atomic forge
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Is there a way we can approximately know what era this is on the surface ? Don't think there're hints (in case sgg wanna play with us)

late nacelle
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The only sort of hints

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Is that the food is junk food

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That Charon brings in

viral pagoda
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imagine if the transistor blade made it as one of the weapons

late nacelle
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I would love if the aesthetics of our weapons could change

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Such as getting a Poseidon boon on spear makes it a trident

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Or ares sword (idk the name but ik it's his symbol)

distant current
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that would feel really weird, especially if you ran like one poseidon and three artemis boons.. also the trident would only really work for poseidon and the spear, not for any of the other gods

late nacelle
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Well rather than a trident I was thinking each boon had a different look

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also each weapon with each boon

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But also I appreciate it'd be too much work

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I was just saying it'd be cool

distant current
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what i'm saying is that each god has his favorite weapon (artemis the bow, poseidon the trident) and that it would look weird to have weapon themed for a god that does not even wield it

late nacelle
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Idk, I think it'd look pretty cool. They already have the trail designed after the boon, why not slight stylistic changes to the weapon

pale nest
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I’m pretty convinced this is modern day- charon’s food, Skelly’s accent, and the gods complaining Hades never calls

visual laurel
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tbf i doubt their accents are supposed to be 1-to-1 representations of what these greek deities and spirits sound like lol

pale nest
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NO IT’S DEFINITELY WHAT THEY SOUND LIKE

wet smelt
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the greeks spoke in british accents after all

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watch any period piece!

earnest mesa
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call each other mate

sly roost
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Quick question how much % can we have for rare & epic with the mirror?

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I tried with all the darkness I had but I could go only to +20% with rare

ashen crown
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+50 on rares, +25 on epic (same total darkness on both)

sly roost
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Okay thanks 😃

sly roost
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Damn how much darkness is that 😮

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5000 darkness?

pale nest
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Thereabouts!

honest coral
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I'm at +50 on rare and +10 on epic atm

ashen crown
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I just went all in on epics

pale nest
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Same

silk fern
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Second hydra run success 😄

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this time with spear

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Think I'm going to put the game on hold now till the big update drop in a couple weeks

pale nest
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Wooo nicely done

fickle garden
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if they added in the transistor blade as a bonus for compelting everything or as an end game reward, that'd be awesome

winged hazel
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transistor skin for the sword, breaker bow skin for the sword, brusher pike skin for the spear, and maybe a pyre reference for the shield IDK

fickle garden
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myabe if they add a ball or sphere sort of weapon they could add in the orb from pyre

unreal lichen
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it seems like the general consensus is the hydra fight is way overtuned, but I think it's intentional due to lack of any further content atm

gonna be fun in a year to tell all the whippersnappers how tough OG hydra was

willow ivy
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almost definitely

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it feels final boss-y but without the enormous amount of loot you would collect before the actual final boss

unreal lichen
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yeah especially the final time multiple hydra heads spawn, it feels just next level difficult and near-impossible to avoid taking tons of damage when you first encounter it

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but it does unfortunately feel very anti-climactic atm

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would appreciate if they just kept mob difficulty but returned you to room 1

willow ivy
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I feel like it would be easier to handle without the bloodless spawns and the devastating hit stun on his homing bolts

ashen crown
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near impossible first time you face it is pretty fair I think

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even when the games complete it's probably not going to be that long to do a full clear, it should take some attempts and improvement to get past the 2nd main boss

mystic tusk
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I think the frustrating part, which is inherent to all roguelikes, is you need to learn its attacks and patterns, but the only way to do that is to fight it repeatedly, which is doing it all over again

ashen crown
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I agree that the final heads phase is a bit out of control, but otherwise I think the fights in a great place

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yeah, a lot of it is just the nature of the game

willow ivy
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Diagnosis: Git Gud

ashen crown
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not my words dusa

mystic tusk
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it's like cuphead, which was frustrating in the same way, in that you struggle to the 3rd stage of the boss and then it hits you with a nuke attack and you need to start all over, but there's a run-up of 20 minutes before you can try again

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and I'm not saying it should change!

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but I understand where the feeling is coming from

ashen crown
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yeah

willow ivy
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all there really is to do is mess around with weapon/boon combos and keep throwing your head against the wall until it starts to crack

unreal lichen
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I do like the length of the game though and wouldn't want them to shorten it

ashen crown
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for myself the difficulty and the fact that serious improvement is required is a big draw. The fact that I can go from not being able to pass the bloodless miniboss in tartarus to where I'm at now is super satisfying

neat crow
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I wouldn't say the Hydra is overtuned, it's just overwhelming the first couple times you come up against it, just like Meg can be

unreal lichen
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I think Meg is almost too easy though

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I prolly only feel that way when comparing her to the hydra as a zone finisher

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She's a good balance of a lot going on, but relatively easy to digest what you need to do

mystic tusk
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I mean, she's the first boss

ashen crown
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yeah, I think megs in a good spot as well

willow ivy
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she still kicks my arse from time to time but it's usually because I got greedy for damage

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treat the fight more like a dance and you'll start finding a ton of openings

earnest mesa
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i'd find hydra easier if i could see myself 😂

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most of the time i end up accidentally dashing into lava bc i lost track of where i was

sand valley
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That red cursor on red background trips me up sometimes, thankfully hasn't ended a run so I hear you sven :)

silk fern
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not sure if I missed something but is it possible to go through the doors at the left side of the House of Hades?

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Or is that just a tease for possible future content

ashen crown
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probly future content

tawdry island
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Why does Meg only have one wing?

neat crow
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I've never looked into it, but I assume they're taking that design from Greek mythology

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Or it's just a design choice on SGG's part ¯_(ツ)_/¯

tawdry island
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Is there a bathroom in Hades? Or do they just go into the blood river?

neat crow
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Do dead people need to use bathrooms? volfredthink

tawdry island
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Well dead people need to eat and drink for some reason...

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And sleep...

sick grove
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do they need to?

neat crow
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I think they choose to, but don't need to

tawdry island
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lol

lime yoke
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there might be something about it in pom's codex page

tawdry island
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Why is ambrosia contraband and disliked by Meg?

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Yet everyone else is fine with it

willow ivy
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because it grants eternal life (or close enough to it), most myths describe it as being forbidden to everyone but the gods

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everyone you can give it to is already a divine being so it's fine, but if a mortal gets their hands on it they can cause no end of trouble

polar root
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At the start of a run, Hades said something along the lines of "No one gets out, boy. Dead or Alive. You think I haven't tried?" I guess Hades is actually stuck there too and that's why he's buttblasted with the other gods. volfredthink

neat crow
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There's definitely some resentment and history there

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And aaaaaall those locked hearts that no doubt talk about it failbag

polar root
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Just gotta get to that therapy breakthrough

willow ivy
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get him drunk on enough ambrosia and maybe he'll start talking

polar root
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I'm curious how closely it'll follow commonly accepted Greek mythology.

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I was the opposite of surprised when Persephone turned out to be the real mom lol

neat crow
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As I recall it stems from the division of realms between Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades, and how the other two tricked Hades into taking the Underworld

polar root
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Didn't they just draw lots?

neat crow
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Eh, I am more than likely mistaken. My Greek mythology is rusty at best

willow ivy
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he was generally displeased with the result and some versions of the myth say he was cheated but yes they drew lots

polar root
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I'm super excited to see the other gods in that crispy SGG art. Looking forward to Artemis' finished art and my boy Hermes

willow ivy
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same

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Artemis is probably my...second favorite

gentle sleet
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Did anyone buy Aphrodite room decoration so far ?

late nacelle
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Yup!

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The starting money in the mirror and hypnos keepsake help a lot

gentle sleet
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Yep i know that but i dont have luck with shop been hunting it for 2h

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Can someone post pic of it ?

velvet vector
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it's just a poster above the water pot

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it actually feels underwhelming for the effort needed to get it

round canyon
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The dialogue between Zag and Meg makes me think they used to be a couple

pale nest
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I hope they weren’t

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They thought they were siblings until a couple of days ago

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I know it’s Greek mythology and all and that stuff is normal >.> But still ew

visual laurel
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There is that bit of dialogue from Hades about Zag needing to grow up and how Meg will "help" with that

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Which struck me as an arranged partnership but could also have been some kind of...training or punishment I guess

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Either way it was gross

round canyon
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As stated above - it's greek mythology. Everyone's related 😄

visual laurel
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yup lol

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I meant more Hades' comment was gross than the concept...that was one of the more 😬 remembrances I've gotten

runic terrace
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unraveled: rememberences ranked by grossocity

tawdry island
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Meg is too tall for Zag... she can do better

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Is Meg related to anyone?

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She has blue skin

willow ivy
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She’s Nyx’s daughter I think

honest coral
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Yeah I think so, you overhear in a conversation between them