i mean she says tempest strike does 20% (it's actually 30% at common, btw), that's disregarding boon upgrades + knock back damage, too
#h1-builds-and-combat
dry ember
pliant anvil
I don't disagree with you. I think shackle is a meme outside of challenge runs. I don't see a place where it's all that useful tbh
opal lodge
i like my runs like i like my pizza
dry ember
is there like a punch line after that?
onyx silo
do %'s add or multiply on top of one another? for like damage resistance, is there anywhere in game that describes mechanics in detail or should this be on a wiki somewhere?
dry ember
they add together, except for crit, which is a x3 multiplier of the total sum
pliant anvil
@onyx silo damage resistance is multiplicative, but all damage sources except crits are additive. Crit chance and dodge chance are also additive
This means if you have a +20% attack boon, +20% chaos attack boon, +20% backstab damage, and +20% global damage bonus, and +20% damage keepsake, you have a 100% damage increase on attacks when backstabbing.
opal lodge
is there like a punch line after that?
@dry ember b(o)onless
pastel hamlet
uhm yes hi i joined the server cuz i got to (and almost killed) what i think is the final boss with a build on my third ever run of this game and i wanted to ask about this and whether its real good or if i just got lucky (or if the game isnt as hard as i was led to believe)
i had the shield and a boon from zeus that affected the special, giving it 38 extra damage per hit with the shield special, when normally the shield special does only 15 it did over 50 with one hit. i also got a Dionisius hammer that did 50 damage on shield return, as well as a pom on the zeus boon i said earlier.
torpid abyss
You know
I have
A single critique of Hades overall
The fact flamewheels exist in Erebus
pliant anvil
congrats on almost killing the final boss! shield + zeus special is also a pretty powerful combo. It's fast and safe-ish. You might have gotten a combination of both lucky, and be good at the game
Flamewheels are a warcrime, change my mind.
spare scaffold
Hades the game honestly isn't hard
torpid abyss
Like really that's the only thing i feel legitimately hurts the game
spare scaffold
if you are any good at hack'n'slash, it probably isn't
pastel hamlet
Yeah, it seemed extremely good considering how safe it felt and how much damage it did
and ah alright fair enough i suppose
spare scaffold
I'm not but since I am fairly confident at sub 16 heat it's probably isn't hard at 0
torpid abyss
Well it's just my problem
but i feel a not-so-small portion of the playerbase agrees
silk hearth
yea flamewheels not fun
torpid abyss
Flamewheels are obnoxious in Elysium, that's fine
But in erebus?
They legitimately suck the fun out of the game
pliant anvil
the majority of hade's difficulty comes from pacts, and the learning curve imo
spare scaffold
Yeah I was clueless when I first played the game
torpid abyss
Like Erebus, if you're not using a ranged weapon, Flamewheels are pretty much an instat loss
pliant anvil
Once you get over the learning curve, it's not so bad
spare scaffold
absolutely awful
torpid abyss
Because they explode the second they die
dry ember
I mean Hades is not hard if you turtle behind a shield for eternity
torpid abyss
My point is, it's bad design to have an enemy like that
pliant anvil
on the other hand, athena dash clowns on flamewheels
torpid abyss
IMO if the explosion was larger / stronger, but with a delay
dry ember
but the simple fact that Tight Deadline exists means you need certain level of finesse to get through the game consistently.
pliant anvil
^
torpid abyss
It wouldn't be as infiurating as it is
pliant anvil
That's what I find the most fun about hades currently, attempting to push my best time
torpid abyss
My problem is that they just like
pastel hamlet
also id like to ask on any tips for the champions of Elysium cuz i didnt feel confident with the fight even though i had some really good stuff, and i feel like i wouldnt be able to consistantly kill them
spare scaffold
I can no-damage flamewheel chambers with melee weapons sometimes
opal lodge
speed is a helluva drug
torpid abyss
Slap flamewheels everywhere like it
But say
Do you have fun with that?
Or is it non stop stress
opal lodge
@pastel hamlet they're pretty annoying tbh and i hated heroes more than i hated final boss for a really long time
torpid abyss
Not if you have tight deadline maced
spare scaffold
fists is.. problematic
dry ember
also id like to ask on any tips for the champions of Elysium cuz i didnt feel confident with the fight even though i had some really good stuff, and i feel like i wouldnt be able to consistantly kill them
the usual approach here is to kill the cow first then theseus, try not to trigger his phase 2 too early.
pastel hamlet
yikes alright
opal lodge
basically you want to focus bull until he's low and leave theseus alone
dry ember
listen to audio cues for spear dodging, learn to play arounf pillars
opal lodge
and then once you deal with bull you have enough time to deal with chad
pastel hamlet
alrighty cool
pliant anvil
Yeah, once asterius is down, theseus becomes much easier.
dry ember
from what I gathered, many people die at phase 2 theseus
opal lodge
and the spear throw
once you figure out the tells for each he becomes very predictable
dry ember
the screen is chaotic which makes it difficult, just... keep calm, I guess
pastel hamlet
also how do you get the bull to stop charging? i got pretty lucky to have hermies +100% speed after dash boon so i could simply out outrun it, but if i dont have that what would i do?
torpid abyss
Use the pillars
pastel hamlet
so run around them?
pliant anvil
pillars/walls
pastel hamlet
is the bulls turning circle not that good?
pliant anvil
run him into them
dry ember
dash behind the pillar, stand next to wall
pliant anvil
yeah, his turning is bad
dry ember
bull rush is the most bs part of the game tbh
pliant anvil
and you can dash through him btw
opal lodge
his turning circle isn't great so if you can bait him into a wall that's pretty good
spare scaffold
make sure he collides into the pillars, or if you are on shield, you can block his charge
opal lodge
@dry ember yeah im pretty sure a good 60% of my runs have been ended by FO2 EM3 HL5 bull rush
spare scaffold
sort of but he can circle around you during that
opal lodge
he just tracks you so damn quick
pliant anvil
oof yeah
dry ember
his turning circle isn't great so if you can bait him into a wall that's pretty good
ik we are talking "vanilla" cow here, but i swear FO2 EM3 cow is a heat seeking missle
pliant anvil
that combo makes for a scary bullrush
opal lodge
FO2 EM3 cow finds your last bit of hope and rips it out
dry ember
im very salty when he does that, and it's 72 damage per, yikes
split orbit
How fun/useful would a poseidon chaos shield run be?
pliant anvil
how much is it on a hit? over 100?
spare scaffold
oh fair enough I'm not good with FO
pliant anvil
I recommend 1 level of FO to get used to it
dry ember
he does 72 iirc on HL5
pliant anvil
oof
dry ember
so 36 without?
pliant anvil
so, close
split orbit
With the special knock back and the one where the water pulses when an enemy smacks into a wall...
opal lodge
ive just gotten used to FO2
dry ember
once you get to asphodel elysium the stage is too big for that
and styx is just a fraction of the game
torpid abyss
Ah who am i kidding
spare scaffold
Poseidon focus def works better if you get Sea Storm
torpid abyss
Idk about code i can't mod at all
spare scaffold
otherwise it's kinda meh really
opal lodge
tidal dash is very good but every other poseidon core i find there are usually better options on your build
torpid abyss
Guess i'm here
dry ember
@torpid abyss I think it's just a mental block.
torpid abyss
Huh?
pliant anvil
I hate them when I run fist or sword
opal lodge
love getting flame wheels with hyper sprint
split orbit
If you have Athena dash you can deflect the explosions
opal lodge
like what are you gonna do? hit me?
spare scaffold
They can explode themselves on Erebus pillars too right?
dry ember
i just dash back and forth between a pillar
split orbit
Now idek about erebus... still haven't unlocked those holes
spare scaffold
I faced them once or twice in Erebus
dry ember
many things in Erebus just seem unfair
butterfly balls
seeker witches
cloners skulls
spare scaffold
Oh yeah I'd probably argue that butterfly balls in Erebus is a bigger problem
pliant anvil
Man, I always end up with armored splitters who have the speed buff
opal lodge
speeder slugger superelite chariots have entered the chat
pliant anvil
also BB are the worst in erebus
silk hearth
athena dash is good against butterfly balls
torpid abyss
I suppose, yes
opal lodge
to a certain extent elysium will simply test how easily you tilt
pliant anvil
that sounds about right
torpid abyss
I just have a personal vendetta against anything resembling "don't get hit" philosophies
pliant anvil
I'm ALWAYS tilted by speedy archers
torpid abyss
You see, there's a difference between enforcing and rewarding something
dry ember
I'm ALWAYS tilted
by speedy archers
pliant anvil
also true
opal lodge
well
torpid abyss
It comes in several forms and ways
opal lodge
this whole game is kinda "don't get hit"
pliant anvil
inb4 revenge builds
torpid abyss
So they tried to reduce XP after several hours of play
This was detrimental to the playerbase because they punished them for playing
opal lodge
i dont really see how those are similar but go on
torpid abyss
However, what they have now, the rest system, rewards them in order to achieve the same purpose: Take a break
Now look at Hades
There are these 2 optional challenges i'm gonna take as an example
Troves and Erebus
Troves have a set reward, which goes down the longer you take to complete
So regardless of what you do, well, you get something unless you fight through the full loot, which is unlikely
In Erebus, however, you outright get nothing, arguably less than if you had taken another route
dry ember
I mean that's kinda how Double or nothing works?
opal lodge
completely optional
torpid abyss
One rewards its challenge, while the other enforces it
opal lodge
completely optional and you enter knowing the consequences
pliant anvil
I could be wrong though
dry ember
you get double rewards, or you get nothing
silk hearth
they do
silk hearth
i think im not too sure
torpid abyss
My point is
silk hearth
otherwise it would be quite strong
pliant anvil
technically you get 1hp 😛
dry ember
I understand how Erebus is not the perfect thing
torpid abyss
The idea behind enforce and reward are complex
dry ember
but what you mentioned is simply the double or nothing mechanics, which isn't new
torpid abyss
Some things should be forced to meet
But there's a factor here, you see
If a game just "forces" you to play in such a way
opal lodge
erebus isn't perfect, neither is pact
the best thing is that the game doesn't force you to take either
KEK
pliant anvil
I like the concept of a high risk/high reward room personally
opal lodge
^
pliant anvil
sometimes a +2 pom/money/higher rarity boon is all you need
And yeah it could be tweaked (i.e. butterfly balls...)
dry ember
Why do you think SGG forces your hand?
torpid abyss
But point is, i simply dislike demanding perfection from the player
Look, the matter is not whether or not i must take Erebus
pliant anvil
Well, then erebus rooms aren't for you
They're a way for a player to shake up a run and see if they can play REALLY well
torpid abyss
It's too cheap to simply say "it's not for you"
opal lodge
well
dry ember
well
opal lodge
they are also heat gated
pliant anvil
or if they have to lame it out against an armored seeking speedster splitter
opal lodge
clearly they are intended once you've reached a certain level in the game
dry ember
what heat do you play on?
torpid abyss
But you still need the heat?
pliant anvil
the deeper you get, the harder they are
torpid abyss
No like
dry ember
it's at least 5 heat to enter
opal lodge
per biome
torpid abyss
Why do they spawn if you can't get it
It's not like you can change the heat mid run
pliant anvil
heat is a way of trying to make sure the player is probably up to par
dry ember
Why do they spawn if you can't get it
Ease of coding, I assume
torpid abyss
Yeah, i suppose that makes sense
But i'm sure there's also a way to hide them when the heat req isn't met
opal lodge
probably
torpid abyss
Since the req is literally a "if runHeat => 5"
pliant anvil
well, if it doesn't show up, players will have trouble understanding how to access them
where as if they DO show up, players can access them and see what they need
dry ember
I mean we are not the devs
opal lodge
yeah i don't really understand the gripe here tbh
dry ember
but eh
opal lodge
wym stubborn defiance + earrings?
dry ember
nothing wrong with that
torpid abyss
Hades is fun because the gameplay loop is one of the best game designs: Simple
dry ember
but honestly i don't share your sentiment with Erebus, which also has nothing wrong witht that
torpid abyss
You hit stuff and get upgrades
opal lodge
foxhope does the skull earring not work with SD
dry ember
wym stubborn defiance + earrings?
@opal lodge Earrings should be active on 30% health or less. SD revives at exactly 30%.
opal lodge
ah so it doesn't work immediately AT 30%?
pliant anvil
but HP restored rounds up
opal lodge
that sucks
torpid abyss
Roguelikes can be hit or miss, since the roguelike mechanic lives and dies by its second mechanic
dry ember
but HP restored rounds up
@pliant anvil probably, but the wording is confusing
opal lodge
i was using meg earring for a bit on an experimental 32 heat speed trial and was wondering why it sucked so bad
torpid abyss
Uhhh what i mean is
dry ember
afaik the dev is aware, so hopefully this interaction will be fixed
torpid abyss
I love Hades! But saying the game is perfect feels disrespectful
dry ember
would be a nice buff to a lesser used keepsake tbh
pliant anvil
I don't think anyone was saying it's perfect
opal lodge
i wouldn't say it's perfect either
i just don't really understand your erebus critique
pliant anvil
I personally think it's very close. Almost as close as one could get really
torpid abyss
Speaking of lesser keepsakes, what about Sisyphus'?
river wing
huh? i mean. I wouldn't know that i need 5 10 15 heat respectively if they didn't do this.
the game is teaching that to you
torpid abyss
I never knew how to make it work
pliant anvil
I don't have any major complaints really. Some minor ones like erebus and butterfly balls and flamewheels
dry ember
I personally think it's very close. Almost as close as one could get really
@pliant anvil say what you want, I think Army Men RTS is the perfect game
pliant anvil
Sisyphus's is just don't have boons
dry ember
it's perfect in my eyes when I was 6
pliant anvil
@dry ember I can't argue with that. I think I also played a (pirated) version when I was young AF
dry ember
Speaking of lesser keepsakes, what about Sisyphus'?
@torpid abyss it's used more than errings, for sure
see boonless runs
solid hazel
does anybody know if you have to unlock codex prereqs for duo boons?
cuz my friend and I have different pre-reqs listed and we are on the same build of Hades
river wing
eh? the prereqs should be the same
which specific duo do they differ on?
oh i get your question now "unlocking the prereqs to display"?
I don't think so, I think I had them all listed very early on, but am not 100% certain.
solid hazel
yeah I was trying to post both links, but I was having server issues, it thought I was spam
I've been sorting it out with a Heartful Peach, who has been super helpful
but it still won't let me post the second picture
naive tusk
@solid hazel 2nd picture for comparison https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716850148348788769/777081636386111498/20201114030421_1.jpg
solid hazel
thanks @naive tusk
dry ember
Peach came in clutch
solid hazel
So anyway, we didn't know if it was a bug or if you like you have to unlock somehow
you can see divine dash and tempest dash both missing from the bottom pick
My friend only noticed it cuz he got Unshakable mettle without apparnetly having any pre-reqs but he actually had divine dash
which in my codex shows up as a preqreq
river wing
that does sound like a bug? I just open my codex and it isn't there either 🤔
the dashes
solid hazel
he's submitting a bug report now anyway
worn folio
So I just tried Zeus special on a maxed out Chaos Shield, and it felt extremely underwhelming. Am I missing something?
a lot of people seem to swear by it
solid hazel
I do'nt think so? I use it and it seems pretty strong
river wing
there's a cooldown on zeus special.
solid hazel
like things don't live very long when you hit them with the discus
oh ...you mean chaos
lol sorry I thought you meant zeus aspect
I swear by Zeus special on Zeus aspect, but not Chaos
it's pretty bad oh Chaos
river wing
zeus on zeus is really good. the hit rate fits the cd very nicely.
worn folio
but a lot of people say it's extremely good on Chaos as well, and I just don't see why 🤔
river wing
Ares special is really good for clearing out rooms. with chaos
spare flare
You're probably reading old advice.
opal lodge
zeus special bad on chaos 
spare flare
People don't adjust to patches, but patches do adjust the game significantly.
In every bloody game, I see sixteen articles telling me the same metagame for something that was valid on day 1 (and, mind you, not necessarily even really optimized then), and then it was slightly nerfed while something else was buffed, but do those bloggers ever submit an edit? Maybe write another article as an addendum? Even just make a note in the comment section, eh? Naw. They just want clicks for ad revenue. Post obvious copy pasta advice for a hot, new game, get easy money, repeat.
solid hazel
yeah you're probably righ @spare flare Chaos used to be king, and now it's like mid-tier
worn folio
It's just a really safe option for beginners I think
spare flare
Aspect of Chaos? Not any safer than any other Aegis aspect.
untold vortex
pre 1.0 Chaos Aspect was incredibly safe
spare flare
Actually, I'd call Beowulf the safest and Zeus the second. Zeus because you still have a local copy of Aegis with which to shield yourself while your special Blitz Disc is out and about, and Beowulf because things can't hit you if they're already dead.
solid hazel
I think chaos pushes you into a safe style of play
cuz you can sit there and block until it's done, missing with the bull rush barely matters and then throw your special from anywhere
beowulf if you block too long, you'll miss your flares
spare flare
Aye, it's pretty mindless.
warm snow
I find that Chiron with Artemis special is so-so
I switch to Dionysus special and find that it's better
Lucifer with Zeus special is also so-so
Dionysus or Athena is much much better
I do the math and find that Artemis is like +some% to attack/special
For this, Aphrodite is much easier and better
+20% dmg with 15% critical chance means: 1.2* (0.15*2x + 0.85x) = 1.38x. It means you have +38% dmg on average.
cunning urchin
Deadly Flourish is the best single-target DPS you can get on Chiron.
warm snow
already tried that
too slow
Dionysus has stacked effect
"I tend to steer clear from Artemis, because her Boons rely far too heavily on the RNG of critical hits."
from https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/09/30/hades-boons-guide-the-best-boons-and-gods-to-choose/
warm snow
I sometimes choose Artemis when I can deal 150+ dmg
like Arthur or Cluster Bomb with Rocket Bomb
cunning urchin
That's kinda a bad guide tbh.
silk hearth
using a guide from someone who doesnt play high heat isnt the best idea
warm snow
so your suggestion is... ?
cunning urchin
Drunken Flourish is strong, but don't dismiss Deadly Flourish. It's incredibly powerful, too. You can delete Hades in seconds with that.
Some math for Chiron here: #h1-high-heat-strategies message
cunning urchin
I mean on Chiron specifically.
Speedrun record for Chiron uses Deadly Flourish.
That's mirrorless, and he still dies that fast. 
frank dew
staying away from artemis? thats just blasphemy
i mean the fact that she can add crit to any build even if you dont go for her attack or special is increadibly good
silk hearth
i actually like demeter call
proven osprey
calm bluff
"huh i'll go for ares and aphrodite that seems llike a fun combo" gets multiple good duo boons https://i.imgur.com/zlVwmbH.png
frank dew
i feel as aphrodite is just like the convergence of good duo boons
silk hearth
her duos are so good
unborn pebble
Wooooow
Only way that could've been better would be the inclusion of the Dio Legendary and the Ares-Zeus duo.
toxic rose
World spliter hmm
unborn pebble
Hmm, ahh, yeah. The Chaos attack boost is pretty nice here tho'.
I am about to burst a vessel.
Perfect AchilleSpear BladeSpin Cast run. Artemis duo, Ares Legendary, extra cast damage, errryyyythang!!! Even got the Athena Attack and Dash and the Snow Burst on the cast.
And my laptop hich-ups, framedrop meaning I am stunlocked in the phase 2 lazer and it pierces through my DD and kills me. SCREEEEEEEE!!!
And it crashes.
And I lost the run.
F that.
new run.
calm bluff
world splitter was me getting prophecy hammers
didn't actually care if it helped lol
Just finished an ares run with the rift cast, call and dash
that was pretty fun
Just need aphro's last boon and then I only have to focus on hammers and legendaries
But legendaries I'm not too worried about. If I gettum I gettum
somber summit
hi does demeter's boon for boosting life regen apply for ||guan yu|| spin attack regen?
barren otter
no, it will still regen 1 hp
somber summit
aight thanks
oh but
does it work better with mirror trait
that heals you for 60% of that black essence?
barren otter
I'd imagine it will.
somber summit
alright ill check that
dusty ridge
afaik, demeter's boon does work with hidden, it's just that the increase is too low to survive the rounding down since the minimum heal is 1 point
somber summit
is the boon upgradeable?
barren otter
it's not upgraded with poms. only through rarity
gray shore
I feel compelled to also reiterate how insane Artemis is for upgrading your damage
A completed Arty-centric build is basically unparalleled in terms of dps
especially with Chiron, the high number of hits combined with Hunter's Mark alone
starts shredding
midnight scaffold
any build on chaos shield that isnt zeus special? sometimes i cant find his boons until elysium
gray shore
Dio special can work with Aphro strike best, Demeter can work, I've even seen Ares on special if you can get Merciful end (with Dire Misfortune?) and Divine Dash, so kinda a highroll build
midnight scaffold
thank
open heron
I feel like I am relying super heavy on arty rn
Super consistent compared to other builds that need a specific duo or whatever
sinful magnet
any build on chaos shield that isnt zeus special? sometimes i cant find his boons until elysium
@midnight scaffold Thing with Zeus special is that it is absurdely good once you max chaos. If you wann try something new you can always go the Art + Dio
Crits, arrows, hangover everywhere
midnight scaffold
i know zeus is good, but i think it's a little unreliable since i need 3 of his boons to deal real damage
sinful magnet
Although I don't like it personally, but it is fun
Personally my two favourit combos in the game is Dio + Zeus and Demeter + Zeus
Always if possible with an Athena dash
Dio + Demeter is also great
calm bluff
Tbh if you like arty keep going arty if it's working for ya. I'm trying to expand my comfort zone outside of Athena lol
copper sandal
I hear you liked support fire arrows, https://imgur.com/HX1l67I.gif
celest bay
What does Targeting System do with Rocket Bomb?
turbid needle
Support fire is legit great on Zeus shield
calm bluff
Zeus shield looks fun
turbid needle
It's definitely one of the more unique aspects in this game
calm bluff
Tbh anything you can just throw out and just dodge around is pre great
still vigil
Not all are created equal qwq
calm bluff
I'm at the locked heart for most gods and Achilles still hasn't talked about it
Feel like me winning all the time is making the dialogue not come up lol
calm bluff
Yeah, maybe after his story.
copper sandal
Honestly, I started a new save and got a ??? really fast
Not sure if that would help
anecdotal evidence and all
(because my old save was like, really old)
waxen comet
Does Scintillating Feast benefit from cast damage bonuses?
barren otter
the lightning strikes? no, they shouldn't. they will benefit from double strike/high voltage/splitting bolt though
waxen comet
Noted, thank you!
weary halo
Could I get a hint at how to unlock the other 5 weapon aspects? ||I have the secret spear one, and I want to know if I have to beat the game with it or if I can focus on other stuff||
sonic epoch
friendship and dialogue
unkempt pagoda
Could I get a hint at how to unlock the other 5 weapon aspects?
spend more blood
still vigil
Spill more blood
summer mesa
Does splitting headache require the attack to have some critical chance for it to add on top of it?
unkempt pagoda
splitting headache is just global crit chance, like pressure points
summer mesa
Nice thanks
unkempt pagoda
👍
summer mesa
Oh how about hunter's mark?
unkempt pagoda
also global crit chance, but you need something with crit to activate it anyways
summer mesa
Yeah I get it, thanks again
unkempt pagoda
no problem!
waxen comet
Is there anything that straight up cannot crit? I've heard Zeus' lightning can't.
unkempt pagoda
i'm dubious about lightning not critting, as nothing else seems to work like that
but ig i can't be sure until i do some testing myself
(also, like... why make it not crit?)
waxen comet
This is according to Haelian, at least
Though it's perfectly possible he's just being daft; I know I can be 
jade escarp
what's the best build for aspect of Zeus (shield) ?
turbid needle
Depends on your heat setup
But you want to build around the special
Zeus boon on the special and digging into it for boons like Double Strike is a good strat, assuming your mirror's good
Artemis boon on the special is the most consistent source of damage, as far as leveling with poms go, and opens itself up to some nice duos (Deadly Reversal with Athena, Heart Rend with Aphrodite, Splitting Headache with Dionysus)
You can also go for the Merciful End duo boon with Athena and Ares on attack and special. Ares on special works best for bosses, while on attack, it will be better for rooms. Do note you need Athena on Attack or Special, and a doom effect of Ares to get the duo
jade escarp
thanks, @turbid needle
turbid needle
The strongest trait of shield
Is that you can stick to the mid-range and still be safe
waxen comet
Zeus' Aegis is very good with on-hit damage
proven osprey
mid range point ?
waxen comet
Lightning and Drunken Flourish, perhaps Curse of Agony with the requisite Doom-stacking buffs
turbid needle
Range should have been what I said
Instead of point
But being able to stay almost near the bosses' melee range constantly is great for not missing out on DPS as much.
turbid needle
Pretty much LOL
proven osprey
I'm in a middle of a run (styx I believe) with that kind of build too
I have the double strike and dio attack, funny one
I'll see if I'm able to first try that sweet 32
turbid needle
Good luck!
Oh, and side note for Dionysus on Zeus shield special : It's alright. If you are going for speed, it's not ideal, however
Most specifically, rooms. Having your special hit for more than say, 3 times, can be hard if you want to go fast
And you only really get the base special damage by that point, takes a while for the Hanghover stacks to deal damage. By the time you build it up, other gods' special would have done the work already
For bosses, it can work fine, but it's about the same, if not worse, than the other options
stiff jacinth
Hey, when you have Chain Shot with Chiron Bow, does the initial target still get marked?
By that same token, how does Chiron interact with Triple Shot?
pliant anvil
the last target hit with chain shot is the marked target iirc
not sure about triple shot
barren plume
Idk how to make hangover builds work
I get the tipsy shot is a glorious blessing but hangover is just....
waxen comet
It stacks almost linearly with Poms of Power, and Ares and Aphrodite alike crank up his power quite spectacularly
waxen comet
Either through 30% more ticks or 60% more stacks
barren plume
Ahhhhh
Whenever I find Dion I usually get zeus or poseidon after.
Not by my own will
waxen comet
Ignoring boon rooms in favour of Poms is a legitimate strategy for Dionysus tbh
There's also Dio's legendary but keeping bosses in Festive Fog can be a bit of a pain in the neck
Generally you're better off focusing on either Trippy Shot or Hangover instead of both, in my meager experience
turbid needle
Had one run in my 50 heat attempts where I tried out Dio special on Zeus aspect of shield. Had to natch the Trippy shot, got the legendary in Asphodel. It actually wasn't all that impactful
icy kernel
Guys, does Aspect of Hera work with Triple Shot?
Like, will I send out three cast-blasts?
waxen comet
Still more hits
icy kernel
So between Point Blank Shot, Triple Shot and Piercing Volley...
turbid needle
Shotgunning peeps with bow attack is still great
icy kernel
I was leaning towards Triple
waxen comet
Point-Blank imo
turbid needle
Point Blank or Triple
icy kernel
I do have the Poseidon Dash
waxen comet
But I like single target damage
turbid needle
Honestly, up to you. I'd go Triple
icy kernel
triple it is~
turbid needle
If you get close enough to enemies (most notably, bosses), you can land all three hits
devout ether
Triple gets you 300% da-- yeah that
waxen comet
Ah, Tidal Dash makes PB a bit difficult to use for normal fights
My recent Hera run actually had three Stygian casts of a very cranked-up Trippy Burst
icy kernel
in hindsight PB might've been the best choice
I seem to be unloading in the faces of enemies with by Aphro Cast Blastr
waxen comet
Lv5 Heroic with two Casts and a Grasp boon from Chaos
And then the cast consumable for Hades
Seeing 2k damage pop up every 3 seconds was cathartic
My only regret was that Demeter didn't want to give me Ice Wine
waxen comet
Guessing the delay makes it a bit difficult
turbid needle
When Ice Wine is used with Hera, there's a bit of a delay before the cast comes out, yeah
You do get a damage up, so there's that
waxen comet
I know I ran into that issue with my Beowulf prophecy run
Scintillating Feast was neat, at least.
turbid needle
Feast is fantastic
Especially if you get boons like Double Strike and Jolted
or the Splitting Bolt legendary
waxen comet
It didn't pan out like I wanted it to
But it still tacks on damage
The dream was Scintillating Ice Wine
I seem to remember reading that the two can work together
icy kernel
I need an "I Survived The Witches On Forced Overtime" T-Shirt
restive patio
Denied. Next!
Says Hades, having heard the plea of a worthless shade, wishing for a T-shirt.
It's what he'd do, tbf
icy kernel
in fairness if some random shade named "WiseguyD" beat his witches he'd probably fire them
restive patio
Perhaps that shade is just better at magic than them
waxen comet
Witches aren't that bad on Forced Overtime
Bizarrely, they're easier with Middle Management
icy kernel
I had no deflect.
restive patio
Welcome to my most recent spear run
waxen comet
They eschew some of their bullet hell in favour of shots you can't just slice through
Deflect makes them a joke but it's still reasonably easy, especially if you can quickly burn one or two of them
I'd much rather fight the Witches than the Megagorgon and Cyclops
restive patio
Megagorgon is fine, I'd say
Then again, I didn't do Middle Management or Forced Overtime yet
icy kernel
I FORGOT TO SAY HI TO THE SUPPORTIVE SHADE
This run basically doesn't count
waxen comet
I just hate having to play defensively, honestly. I can simply react to Witches, but I have to wait and see what shot pattern MegaG is firing at me, and my patience is not good
restive patio
Athena Dash helps
waxen comet
Divine Dash makes them incredibly easy, especially if you happen to have Brilliant Riposte
I've killed them with nothing but Divine Dash, it's funny
It's even better if you enabled Hard Labour, since all that extra damage still applies to them
keen hazel
Nice pro tip. Max out hard labor and go for a deflect build
waxen comet
Just saying, Deflect goes from good to great under Hard Labour
keen hazel
I for real might try that out for laughs
waxen comet
Splitters blow themselves up too, it's grand
I go out of my way to Deflect the projectile clusters, since it's a quick kill
icy kernel
aaaaaaand I died while one shot away from victory by dashing into an exploding vase ;-;
restive patio
Ah, those 150 hits are chunky
I'm just assuming you're talking about the ones summoned by ||redacted||
unborn pebble
So, Beo-run, how bad an idea is Athena-Cast?
waxen comet
It's not bad but you'd probably be better off with something else iirc
stark ore
It's good, Artemis/Aphro are usually better though
waxen comet
You want casts with high base damage
calm bluff
https://i.imgur.com/aA4myVr.png Demeter and Dionysus was fun.
waxen comet
Ice Wine is a fun time.
calm bluff
Mega burst damage
unborn pebble
I just had a thought, wouldn't Demeter's Ravenous Will boon be active when you fully load your BeoShield or HeraBow?
unborn pebble
Ohhhhh
Why, I think I might have to try Athena-Cast, can always sell it and try to force an Aphro one.
waxen comet
At that point I'd stick with Athena and level it, honestly
unborn pebble
Well, just got offered an Erebus gate with a pom in, took it, and one of the exit was a Duo Demeter-Athena room xD
And Demeter gave me Snow Burst
It's happenen!!!
waxen comet
Trials of the Gods can't give Duo Boons, btw
waxen comet
Yeah, it's risky but potentially rewarding
unborn pebble
I know. I actually don't want the Athena-Demeter duo since I'm not running the Worst DD.
So fun combo I noticed between Snow Burst and Beo, if you're doing the "Loading Cast After Rush is Starting"-tactic, you both proc the burst where you land AND get the benefits of 3 casts xD
And Deadly Reversal on 5-Pom rare Athena Cast = Get!
waxen comet
I've found Stubborn Defiance to be useful at high Heat, where normal Encounters start being more dangerous than bosses
queen patrol
if i get 2 herme boons if the first 2 stages
if i equip his keepsake will i get hermes again? or will i only get him at the end
unborn pebble
Fair Point. I guess that's where the Regenerating DD would be better too, right, JuliLynx?
Ahh, Hermes Keepsake does not force boons like the other Olympian God keepsakes do.
So I found something amazing about the Athena Attack+Cast combo on Beo and the "Deflected Attacks Deal More Damage" boon she gives. Due to the Cast Pulsing at the end of the bullrush, that's a LOT of deflect opportunities.
That's a lot of damage!
waxen comet
Stubborn Defiance, yeah
If I get knocked to 0hp more often by normal enemies than bosses, then Stubborn Defiance becomes far more worthwhile
restive patio
I have little problems with normal enemies to be fair
waxen comet
Noticed it when I was dying in Asphodel and Elysium when having Stubborn would've kept me going
restive patio
Anything less that two DD's on Hades is suicide to me
waxen comet
I can fight bosses just fine
restive patio
At least with some of the weapons
waxen comet
I pulled out all the cheese on Hades, especially since I had EM4 on.
waxen comet
I was doing 32 Heat for the last statue
restive patio
Tbf I have yet to do 8
waxen comet
16 can be a bit spicy but I'm still comfortable with Death Defiance
32 made me use Stubborn Defiance instead
restive patio
There are some weapons that I just can't beat Hades with without at least 2 DD's yet
unborn pebble
So I have a Verdict.
restive patio
Spear, Rail and sometimes bow, for example
waxen comet
Well, Stubborn Defiance and Lucky Tooth is two, heh.
unborn pebble
Athena Attack+Cast is pretty good on Beowulf. Especially when you manage to snag Aphro Dash and Arty Spec and then get their duos with Athena
restive patio
At least on my heat levels
waxen comet
Tooth goes after Stubborn, just put it on at Styx
unborn pebble
Especially since Phalanx Flare and Passion Flare have the same Base damage.
waxen comet
Nice
unborn pebble
Phalanx Flare has a smaller AOE delivery.
But it deflects
Which, with Brilliant Riposte, makes for STUPID single target dps on bosses.
waxen comet
Nice!
restive patio
My Poseidon Sword strategy in a nutshell
unborn pebble
I had Poseidon Sword with Arty Attack, Athena Special, some cast I don't remember, and Arty's Exit Wounds a while back.
That, that chunked quite a bit.
restive patio
I like Athena cast, status curse attack, status curse special, exit wounds and crit chance on Poseidon sword
unborn pebble
xD
restive patio
I abuse that 40% damage buff from the mirror heavily
waxen comet
18 seconds of invuln gooooo
restive patio
Meaning my builds involve two curses most of the time xD
waxen comet
Family Favourite is pretty decent tbh
unborn pebble
Family Favourite is great for Crit-Builds
waxen comet
Since you usually end up with at least 4 gods, so an always-on 20% buff
restive patio
I won't watch the vid to protect myself from phase 3 spoilers
unborn pebble
Fun part, Pidge? Far as I can tell Hades didn't have enough time to use any of the Phase 3 specific attacks.
restive patio
I could tell from the header
Propably that deflect build you've talked about before
unborn pebble
What was the rarity on your Aid and your Brilliant Riposte?
waxen comet
Aid was Epic
unborn pebble
mmmmm
waxen comet
Had it at 3.12s base
Times six for a Greater Call, so...
I didn't have Riposte
Just deleted him with volleys
1300-1400 damage per Special thanks to Poseidon and double Volley
restive patio
Oof
devout ether
There's always the archive
primal hazel
Yo does achilles buff apply to lightning rod? I don't think so right?
torpid abyss
"Hey this run looks like it'd be pretty goo-"
No attack boons
waxen comet
You mean Jolted? I don't think so since it's Curse damage, not Attack or Cast
waxen comet
Oh
I forgot that's the Artemis/Zeus duo
Never see it since I'm hooked on Stygian Soul
primal hazel
Same
Unless I'm doing casts
waxen comet
Not sure, probably not?
primal hazel
One hand it's cast based
On the other it only applies after the cast has dropped
That's my conundrum
waxen comet
I'm guessing it's like Scintillating Feast, where only global damage boosts would work
kindred trout
Yeah it's not cast damage.
primal hazel
unborn pebble
So you guys know that moment when you beat Charon in Tartarus, 10 HP and 1 DD left, and manage to beat the following room which gives you a heart?
And then you get 2 infernal chests with Gold Rewards in the remaining 3 rooms before the floor shop?
I have never felt this filthy rich xD
700 Gold as I strolled in.
solid hazel
lol money for days
unborn pebble
Oh, I forgot to mention that the non-chest room was Sisyphus and Bouldy!
solid hazel
hah I guess you could take every store for until you get to Styx
unborn pebble
Yup. All the boons.
solid hazel
well depends if you have that pact on though
unborn pebble
Nope
Not playing with it yet.
Trying to complete a run for each pact before I hit the real high heats.
Oh, also, started out with Artemis. Now I have Athena Attack, Artemis Special, Dio Cast lvl 2, Zeus Aid, and Scintillating Feast xD
This is Chiron Bow, btw, the hell is this run?!?
primal hazel
Still got lots of heats to go before high heats strats ^^
solid hazel
I just had a run with way too many buffs to apply
primal hazel
Yup still ways to go xD
solid hazel
Not nearly enough mental RAM for this hestia build, had Chaos Lunge + Hunter Dash, Artemis strike, Heart Rend, Crush Shot (boiling blood), smoldering Air, Billowing Strength, Divine flourish with exposed, targeting system
unborn pebble
I'm trying to learn the patterns of EM1-3 bosses so that I can try and have them and Tight Deadline.
And then add Forced Overtime too for high-value heats.
solid hazel
so to get max damage, I need to hit them with the special, hit them with crush shot, mash call for billowing strength, then reload and dash strike a backstab hestia shot and it needs to crit
primal hazel
Why didn't you just take aphrodite flourish?
solid hazel
Aphro didn't come until much later
fathom violet
what's you guys' favourite aspect of the stygian blade?
solid hazel
like middle of asphodel, athena came by and I thought deadly reversal was good enough
primal hazel
Arthur
solid hazel
which I did get, but it's no good to keep up on hestia, duration too short
primal hazel
Aphro is always better
solid hazel
I mean I've played so many runs, I'm just looking for fun new things to do
solid hazel
I know what is optimal, but it's boring to always play those things
no worries, assuming you just trying to help
primal hazel
Idk I'm 150+ in and still repeat some builds "optimally" since I want to have a "perfect" run with em
fathom violet
@primal hazel what are your go-to boons with Arthur?
primal hazel
Yk that god run feel where you get everything xD
solid hazel
@fathom violet I like poisedon a little more than arthur to be honest, but it's not for everybody
primal hazel
Poseidon is awesome too!
solid hazel
For Arthur, it's basicalyl any combination of the triple AAA raw damage goddess boons
primal hazel
Arthur artemis attack, heart rend, hunter dash, double edge/curse slash/shadow slash/greater consecration/breaching slash
solid hazel
Athena/Artemis/Aphro
primal hazel
Core hammer would be double edge for me
fathom violet
I'm trying poseidon now, I'd like to get Artemis' boon where it deals dmg when cast crystals exit but no luck...
solid hazel
really on arthur? I barely use dash strike on arthur, the three hit combo seems much stronger
primal hazel
If you're experienced you can also play for the third combo strike and buffer
Combo is way too slow in most cases
Usually you just buffer for the third hit
dusty ridge
your dash strike can continue the combo instead of interrupt it
solid hazel
I find that an extremely safe way to play Arthut that sacrifices dps, is just go divine strike
primal hazel
Dash striking works well and is easier in most cases
dusty ridge
so you could do the first two and dash strike the third
primal hazel
Also double hits, double triggers and damage boost through hunter
Dash strike doesn't really sacrifice dps
solid hazel
that doesn't count as a dash strike for double edge though @dusty ridge N
cunning urchin
Full Attack combo is fine.
primal hazel
What you lose in raw damage you make up in attack speed and mobility
Yeye I just like dash striking too much
cunning urchin
Dash-Strike > Attack x3 is really good.
primal hazel
cunning urchin
You can dash between Attacks.
solid hazel
what does it count for double edge...I guess I've never tried
primal hazel
Also going for dash strike doesn't mean you have to only use dash
solid hazel
it'd be stupid good if you you can 3rd hit x2 with double edge
cunning urchin
No lol.
solid hazel
yeah that's what I figured
primal hazel
Double edge is usually one of the strongest sword hammers imo
(Well aside from poseidon)
cunning urchin
Just take Heartbreak Strike and try to stay within your Holy Aura when possible. Your eHP will be super high.
Then just throw in any damage reduction or dodge you see on the way.
Dashes are better, of course.
unborn pebble
So my Chiron Crit Run became a Caster Run. Scintillating Feast and Lightning Rod @.@
solid hazel
sounds like you picked the wrong aspect at the beginning haha
unborn pebble
I mean
solid hazel
that's what hera runs usually turn out like...asuming everything goes well haha
unborn pebble
I also have Divine Strike, Deadly Flourish, and Deadly Reversal xD
AthenAttack, ArtySpec, and AthArt-Duo
ArtySpec at Epic Rarity :V
primal hazel
Don't i wanna get my stones back for scintillating again?
Instead of letting them lie around yk
solid hazel
I mean with that going, your chiron is way better than scintillating feast...you might as well just leave them on the ground for lightning rod
primal hazel
Yeah but I'm more so taking about Hera
unborn pebble
Oh, yeah, def for Hera.
solid hazel
I mean I was joking for comedic effect, on hera lightning rod is obviously a minor upgrade at best
unborn pebble
Ok, here we go, Elysium.
solid hazel
I usually run stygian with hera anyway, I just find that dashing into enemies to pick up bloodstones is not worth the extra burst damage
primal hazel
Later on it is
But yeah usually i run stygian with scint too
I don't get your "that's how a hera run usually turns out" statement then
unborn pebble
I've heard good things about Beo/Hera and Ice Wine Scintillating Feast on Stygian
solid hazel
and getting bad news is way more exciting than getting greater recall
primal hazel
Def
Although greater recall feels smoooth
solid hazel
Some people like the beo/trippy shot, but I prefer passion
the trippy shot thing you have to wait for bloodstones to pop out
primal hazel
I like em all xD
unborn pebble
Nate, you gotta try Phalanx Flare
solid hazel
which on beo is kinda annoying
unborn pebble
Divine Strike and Phalanx Flare
solid hazel
I've tried that, it's alright
cunning urchin
Even if Lightning Rod only hits once before you pick it up, that's just straight +70 damage to your Cast.
solid hazel
I actualyl liked tempest flare too, cuz you don't have to aim as well haha
which is a problem for me haha,
primal hazel
Auto aim
solid hazel
and you get to yell get wet!
well like it's not so much the direction as the timing on beo
like you often have to decide if you want to block a bit longer but then your bull rush is going to overshoot
or just let it rip at right distance and hope you don't get hit afterwards
unborn pebble
I mean, my run may have been carried really hard by the fact I had AphroDash and ArtySpec and got all 3 Duos with that too xD
solid hazel
yeah heart rend is probably worth way more than deadly reversal
unborn pebble
And then, Snow Burst (common, but still) and a rare Ravenous Will from Demeter
solid hazel
cuz like..it's probably not easy to be deflecting things on your build
solid hazel
I thought you were scinitllating feast?
unborn pebble
Oh, yeah, that's the current build.
One moment, I'mma link what I'm talking about
untold otter
Hey guys, i got a question, this is about boons.
you know guys, how works boons and their obtaining?
I think that less we take god, better boons we have, am i right or no?
Thanks
proven osprey
Nope
untold otter
so how can we upgrade our droprate for legendary boons ?
this is completely random ?
proven osprey
Mirror of Night as a perk for it
untold otter
yep yep i know this point but in game, how can we play to got easier legendary
proven osprey
also; you should know that legendary boons have prerequisites
the same goes for duo boons
primal hazel
Check codex for prereqs
Reroll
the same goes for duo boons
@proven osprey ya mean the chaos boon?
proven osprey
Also the chaos boon works right?
@primal hazel sure thing
primal hazel
Noice
untold otter
arf yep, didn't remember this fact lmao
primal hazel
Thanks someone told me yesterday and I couldn't quite believe them
primal hazel
Is there any in game confirmation aside from just "feels"?
untold otter
ok thanks guy for answer, i have an other question
Is it that the fewer gods we take, the more chance we have of crossing those we have taken?
proven osprey
well I did not datamine or anything but the wiki says so
untold otter
(sorry about my english, isn't good af :s)
proven osprey
And I can confirm it with my little experience
proven osprey
which is nothing of value but yeah
primal hazel
The game will usually force until you have for
solid hazel
I doubt it @untold otter,it seems like the game will try to always to force you into taking 4 gods + hermes at minimum
proven osprey
you can force a 5th with keepsake I think
primal hazel
If you have less than those for your chance to see other random gods will prolly be higher
ripe glade
Hermes is like dudeulus hammer though.. you will always get at least 2 hermes and 2 hammers
solid hazel
I swear somebody showed me a run where they got 5 without keepsake also...
primal hazel
Obvs but you'll kick one out
solid hazel
but I don't have any proof haha
proven osprey
It's rare but possible (I think ?)
solid hazel
I think it might be possible thru shenanigans around mid shops
solid hazel
like if you already have 3 gods, it might possible you walk into a mid shop, it's already determined a new god for you in the shop, but also theres a new god in the next room too
proven osprey
yeah
ripe glade
always take hermes and dud hammers... but otherwise the game will try to direct you into a build.. but by late game.. you can completely do a 180 when you get presented with heroic boonx.. even if you don't want to change.. follow the heroics... good chance to get legends then
waxen comet
I've probably seen four in Tartarus once in a while, and Hermes has a habit of showing up in Asphodel
solid hazel
Hermes can't show up before end shop in Tarturus I believe
so it usualyl means he shows up in Asphodel
ripe glade
you will always get at least 2 times to get hermes.. so I don't really use his keepsake.. but trust me.. his +3 dashs are awesome... and I do like other skills of his
solid hazel
oh btw...this was weeks ago, but somebody was asking if FF caps at 25% even if you force 5 + hermes
and the answer was definitely, no. I have a screen shot
primal hazel
Didn't think that needed an answer xD
proven osprey
why would it be capped ?
solid hazel
well somebody asked and I never tried it
I try to reserve judgement unless I see proof
there's plenty of hidden mechanics in the game that aren't stated
primal hazel
Yeah but on the other hand a lot can also be pinned down to wording
solid hazel
even @cunning urchin wasn't sure at the time
primal hazel
solid hazel
she knows everything haha, don't question her
I dunno @RollingStone, the hidden mechanics I'm referring to are never stated
like icd on zeus special
additive dodge vs multiplicative damage reduction
solid hazel
we think so...lol I'm gonna be honest and say I've never tested that either
pepole thought dodge was multiplicative until like a month ago too
primal hazel
Good one
proven osprey
thanks man I'm trying so hard
primal hazel
Also the term is reductive multiplicative afaik
Since multiplicative would mean exponential raises
solid hazel
I'm gonna have to go full hipster on this story:
i was saying dodge was additive and broken back in blood pact, but ledger told me it wans't, so I just believed him
primal hazel
As far as we know it was shadow changed
proven osprey
I don't trust Ledger either
primal hazel
Also you'd have to @ ledger for the i told you so
solid hazel
hah, he probably doesn't even remember
cuz I was only on the hades discord for like 3-4 days during blood pact, before I decided to stop playing until full release
so I doubt anybody even remembered me from that time
proven osprey
I do
primal hazel
Do it for the feeling
Nothing better than an "I told you so" that's been a long time coming
primal hazel
Oh hell yeah
Parting shot, greater recall, fully loaded, 1 stone from chaos
proven osprey
oh, that's my time for 40 heat GY
primal hazel
Living the life bois
waxen comet
I'm improving
primal hazel
proven osprey
I've got a hack to go faster
waxen comet
Used to struggle getting sub-20
solid hazel
I think it's great @waxen comet, ignore all these haters 
waxen comet
proven osprey
It is great
primal hazel
Big simping
proven osprey
But I never get to flex
primal hazel
Jk Astaos is jking
proven osprey
so when no one's watching I do
solid hazel
lol we always watching @proven osprey
proven osprey
solid hazel
it's like the truman show, but just for you
waxen comet
I know the speedrun WR is like 6:30
But I'm not that skilled. I'll be surprised if I belt out a sub-10 in my lifetime
proven osprey
it's 5:56 actually
waxen comet
Damn
proven osprey
the WR is pure fire
primal hazel
Not like we aiming for WRs here
proven osprey
so it looks like we're not even aiming
unborn pebble
... So remember how I said that my Crit Build became a Caster Build?
It is now a Call Build 
pliant anvil
rip
waxen comet
Criticallster build
unborn pebble
It is the former two as well xD
primal hazel
Oof 1.3 k athena casts let's gooo
waxen comet
Builds that use everything are fun tho
unborn pebble
Zeus Call, Lightning Rod, Scintillating Feast, lvl 3 common Double Strike, lvl 2 common Billowing Strength, common PP, rare Hunter Instinct, lvl 2 rare Static, and Splitting Bolt.
waxen comet
Everything and the kitchen sink, I see
unborn pebble
Yup.
24 boons
Anyway, lvl 3 Epic Trippy Shot or lvl 3 Deadly Flourish?
I do not have any external dmg boosters on the special that aren't global.
unborn pebble
Nah, that's Ice Wine
waxen comet
No, that's Ice Wine.
pliant anvil
ah ok
unborn pebble
Well, Ice Wine technically has travel time
waxen comet
Scintillating increases radius and adds zappies
pliant anvil
yeah, I thought it also teleported it
unborn pebble
Ice Wine shouldn't have travel time, but it do.
pliant anvil
but that'd be too much 😛
solid hazel
it's not a call build without smoldering air
and then it's a call build, and everythign else is irrelevant haha
unborn pebble
Oh, right, don't have that.
torpid abyss
So, how are you all?
waxen comet
Hungry.
unborn pebble
But yeah, this build does everything
wat even is this run 
primal hazel
A winning run
split orbit
Yo i like Arthur. I've finished the Thunderdome build and its lit
unborn pebble
Hopefully.