#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 681

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 8:56 PM

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So you can never get Duos from double god rooms right?

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Idk why I have that idea...

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But presumably it wouldn't make sense with the dialogue prompts.

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Why?

untold vortex Oct 15, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Yeah no duos from trial of the gods rooms

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 8:58 PM

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That's actually neat to know! Thanks!

gusty parcel Oct 15, 2020, 8:58 PM

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They don't have the technology for godly threesomes/foursomes

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ie. duo boon followed by a regular boon or double duo boons from both picks.

maiden pike Oct 15, 2020, 8:58 PM

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does higher Jury Summons allow for more gold in a run?

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Speaking of gold drops, I enjoy how there's a quip from Zagreus about butterfly balls carrying coins

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He's right, it doesn't make any sense

cosmic jackal Oct 15, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I was trying out aurthur last night and I couldn't figure out what playstyle is best. Actually dash attacking or using special and doing hit combos in it. Any advice there?

pallid dagger Oct 15, 2020, 9:07 PM

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eurgh. i am so out of practice with the sword.

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i have a good build but damn is it not helping me one bit

cosmic jackal Oct 15, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I see 2 different builds talked about. Deadly Strike, Divine Dash vs Heartbreak Strike, Divine Dash, Zeus' Aid, Smoldering Air.

stuck bobcat Oct 15, 2020, 9:22 PM

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@cosmic jackal both variants are good.
With reflect duo Artemis will outdps Aphrodite, however you will miss out on huge chunk of defence (weak + aura + mirmidon bracer + passive def from athena are some easiest EM4 runs - like 3-5 dmg per hades spin xD)
Always fish for backstab with last 2 hits of combo (shadow slash is BiS hammer for both builds).

unkempt zephyr Oct 15, 2020, 9:27 PM

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my offering its athena attack +DR duo with artemis. and add some demeter or aphro. It hard damage and hard defence. with +20% crit chance from all attacks. also backstab from athena. and Athena attack + aura from special make figth VS any range Foe in easy baseball training

maiden trail Oct 15, 2020, 9:40 PM

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I do wish sometimes that daedalus upgrades were more controllable in some senses. I've been doing Zagreus sword runs, trying to get either a hoarding or cursed slash run going, and just been having bad luck getting either

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:41 PM

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question: does the athena cast / zeus duo give the athena cast lightning element?

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Or just make it bouncy?

maiden trail Oct 15, 2020, 9:41 PM

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The one time I scored one of the two was off Anvil of Fates, it was Hoarding Slash, it took the better of the two upgrades I already had, and I was broke already

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that said I know that they can't make daedalus upgrades too much more controllable because it'd be broke as hell on stuff that isn't bad

cosmic jackal Oct 15, 2020, 9:42 PM

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@stuck bobcat Oh, I never think about mirmidon bracer. So you don't take acorn and instead just face tank him if you're in a combo planning that you'll win out on the trade?

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@stuck bobcat What aura are you talking about?

timber orchid Oct 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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any advice for rama's aspect run ?

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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sniper shot /s

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Why oh why did I try to build an Athena cast build ;_;

timber orchid Oct 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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i've juste unlocked it and it didn't felt powerful

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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this is... not great

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But I wanted to fill out my prophecies and take stuff I never usually take haha.

maiden trail Oct 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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@stuck bobcat arthur special aura maybe?

timber orchid Oct 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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like, I had no time to power shot anything and use the special effect

maiden trail Oct 15, 2020, 9:44 PM

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the aura arthur lays down gives you damage reduction when you're in it as well as slowing projectiles

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Damn poison aspect is actually op and ignore this aspect for so long

maiden trail Oct 15, 2020, 9:44 PM

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did not mean to ping miltek, woops

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:45 PM

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poseidon*

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Dat auto correct

cosmic jackal Oct 15, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I still haven't tried it.

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So much to try... but so little titan blood.

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Its op af with artimus cast + legendary hermes

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You just spam it all day

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No need to use sword at all

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Like

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At all lol

cosmic jackal Oct 15, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I'm still having a ton of fun using some of the OP builds, but planning to do some spear guan yu tonight.

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Yeah but its fun change of pace to do something wild

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xd

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I legit only had 3 boon whole run lol

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Sold rest

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 9:47 PM

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What builds with the sword work well?

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I just need a vanilla clear with it, shield, spear, and bow

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:47 PM

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What aspect?

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Oh

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I love how there's an Charon's pool item that just prevents Flame Wheels from spawning

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I dun use vanila aspect

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:47 PM

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🙃

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I have some titan blood I could get any

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But it would just be level 1

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I recommend nemesis and then picking arthur

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Nemesis, and stack crit with artemis?

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How is demeter/poseidon? too memey?

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Yep and if you can boost dash attack + arti dash attack buff

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And get special with aphro

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If you manage to duo boon

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Its devastating dmg

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Uh demet fist?

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Oh you mean boon

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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sorry aspect of poseidon with demeter boon

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I'm going nemesis, first hammer is flurry strike 🙂

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Not good, poseidon aspect is basically all about cast spam but I could be wrong because I always considered it worst weapon till now, i tried it and now it feel most under-rated brain dead build lol

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Just spam arti cast and get exit wound

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400+ dmg per special

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Lv10 cast with crit does like 2000+

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But yeah nemesis is safe bet if you are starting out

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Wow flurry slash actually lowkey sucks

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I thought the attack speed would be higher

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Too many hammer upgrade name confuse me. What does the upgrade do?

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I just noticed how much of a dumbass Theseus is in combat

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Gives you a hold attack on sword

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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After every spear throw he turns his back and walks slowly away 😐

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He's not the brightest bulb in the pack

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Yeah, his friend is much more wiser

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Without extreme measurement 4, bull is harder than final boss imo

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:57 PM

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I don't find Asterius very hard himself.

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It's usually just getting sloppy in the Theseus only phase while he's calling.

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I dislike his rapid spin attack

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Melee users are mostly screwed whenever he does that

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Unless you got good cast

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:58 PM

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S P E A R G A N G

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Imagine having to get close to do melee.

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 9:59 PM

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sad fist user cry in background

steel panther Oct 15, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Last night I had a great Fists:Gilgamesh/Poseidon run. Between the water dash, extra dashes, water attack, and boosting the heck out of pushback... You become this invulnerable wave just careening around and through anything that moves.

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I've actually only beaten Hades with the fists haha

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I had a very bizarre Demeter/Dionysus build.

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Ice Wine + lots of chilling and the one that causes explosions at 10 chill

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And mistral dash.

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So basically everything was in slow motion.

steel panther Oct 15, 2020, 10:00 PM

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It was the first time I've used the fists without relying on the special attack more than the standard attack.

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Lmao you were only missing that duo boom that slow down projectile then it would be really show motion game

cloud barn Oct 15, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I have every piece of the sentry combo except for arctic blast. I can put down a ton of sentries but i do mediocre DPS, and there are no demeter boons remaining
https://imgur.com/a/cNOmRVl

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disappointment

steel panther Oct 15, 2020, 10:01 PM

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It's also super simple to play. You just hold dash and attack. It felt like I was cheating.

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I had one sword build like that. It was just spam dash attack.

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 10:01 PM

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If only sword was like that

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Hold attack to attack

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It hurts my smoll hands

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:03 PM

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There is nothing more pleasing than reflecting satyr darts

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and letting them die from their own damn poison

steel panther Oct 15, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I really enjoyed a Sword/Double Nova/Dash Nova build. Just keep tapping special and away you go

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put athena on that, and you end up loving anything that dares to projectile attack

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I usually hate the Asphodel Witch room

steel panther Oct 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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nods

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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unless I have athena dash, then it's just funny

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Or athena anything really

cloud barn Oct 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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witch circle is easy with demeter cast

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because they dont move :P

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Worst thing is when you don't have good ranged options (incomplete fist build...) and hit the witch room

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Ugh

cloud barn Oct 15, 2020, 10:07 PM

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rip

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yeah that's a pain

steel panther Oct 15, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I wonder who on the dev team likes bullet hells. Between Meg and the witch room, someone over there like them.

cloud barn Oct 15, 2020, 10:07 PM

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i like em

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most roguelikes have bullet hell elements

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:07 PM

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OG roguelikes just have hell elements

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And monster houses which are the ASCII character-based equivalent of bullet hell :p.

cloud barn Oct 15, 2020, 10:09 PM

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fair

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Artemis or Ares on Eris Gun?

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I'm going zeus on attack but no decision beyond that

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I should take a few minutes later on to make a quick asset mod to fix the gyros

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Rogue legacy :^) grand daddy of rogue lite games

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 10:11 PM

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ares imo

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Every time I see lettuce on them I lose my groove

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 10:12 PM

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artemis has a chance at support fire, if that’s something to consider

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Just throws me out of the immersion of otherwise really feeling like I'm in Ancient Greek hades.

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 10:12 PM

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and the gun doesn’t? dusa

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Support Fire requires a tier 1

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The only one that would be decent is pressure points right?

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@winged grove when I get a hankering for OG rogue style gameplay I usually boot up Brogue

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Brogue is excellent

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 10:13 PM

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are "whats the pick" questions allowed? at an interesting crossroads at a chaos boon

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 10:14 PM

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people ask what to choose all the time

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Oh? I usually feel like it's not hard to pick among their boons.

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There's usually one that really helps my build the most.

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Curious what the split is

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 10:14 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/lopRk4l.png
got the gate in the 1st (empty) chamber in Asphodel

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deciding between soul and strike

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got a draining cutter in tartarus

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Strike

winged grove Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Real rogue like game is Minesweep

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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aspect?

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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What weapon?

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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oh right sorry

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Oh yeah good point

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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using zagreus aspect fists

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I find health boosts are the least useful thing overall.

sonic merlin Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Take the damage then

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Not taking them = more damage = less enemies = take less damage

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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also hammer if applicable

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Definitely take boost to attack and try to get a hammer for your attack then imo

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 10:16 PM

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i’d go 2, you can make up the speed difference with dashes

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 10:16 PM

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makes sense

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next chamber was hermes extra dashes

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lets GOOOOOO

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:17 PM

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man aspect of lucifer is so weird to play

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it's fun but i doubt it'd scale up into high heat well

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Time to go get wrecked by spear daddy again

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I do not feel confident with this build

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I wanted Lightning Phalanx but the late game decided to just give me a bunch of unwanted Demeter

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This build can't decide if it's a bad Athena cast build or mediocre Zeus attack build

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Hera with Infernal or stygian?

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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infernal always

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better cc and burst potential

serene zealot Oct 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Guys any suggest on a spear build?

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I'm ass at it lol

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Aight cause some days ago some were arguing for stygian cause of consistency

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Just do cast build with achilles
That's what I'm doing for my spear clears lol

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Or zeus attack, flurry strike, support fire

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 10:24 PM

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having to wait 3 seconds for every shot is too long imo

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i prefer the range and nuance that infernal provides

serene zealot Oct 15, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I see, I have yet to max Achilles, just Zagreus and Guan Yu

fickle summit Oct 15, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Literally 2nd run with Rama to get that sub 15, I'm shook right now shadefear

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Now that I've fought him a few times, Hades really isn't too bad

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First form at least

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He's not hard to dodge he just hits like a truck

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Well if you have the choice id rather max gy

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:25 PM

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They take away the obstacles to hide behind in higher heats dont they?

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Actually dodging his lasers... ugh

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:27 PM

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If you need a build for that: Guan Yu special artemis flourish, charged skewer, aphro duo

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Oh hey

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I won again

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why do I always win on the weird builds I dont like

serene zealot Oct 15, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I see, have been struggling with Guan Yu lol

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Guan Yu is fun.

serene zealot Oct 15, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Which boon to put on the spin attack?

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:30 PM

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i just wish the attack moveset wasn't just stabs

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i mean

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it's a glaive

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Omg Athenas ability is so good at cheesing the final boss

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I just popped it constantly during the mechanics to become invincible and spam backstab damage

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It's insane

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Which chamber-reward diamond work orders are best to get first?

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I did a bit of resource shuffling to get a diamond to buy Darker Thirst to get to 30 orders, so I could get 4 diamonds.

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I have the options of gems -> gold, nectar -> poms, keys -> dice, darkness -> life

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I think nectar -> poms is the best..?

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Yeah what are the best contract upgrades to spend diamonds on?

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 10:44 PM

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I was greedy and went for the keys one first

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Rip

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I was curious and spent my diamonds on the office area for the records

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Should've done research

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:44 PM

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That unlocks a bunch of prophecies though

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Oh really?

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Earlier when I last had diamonds Nyaanyaa suggested prioritizing that one.

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So idk.

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I thought it was useless gameplay wise

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 10:45 PM

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no it's useful

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:46 PM

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You need Admin Privileges for a lot of favors later on too.

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Anyhow

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I got Darker Thirst (but only because it would unlock more diamonds haha)

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So now, Vintage Nectar, Pitch-Black Darkness, Fated Keys or Vanquisher's Keep...

pallid dagger Oct 15, 2020, 10:46 PM

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hmm.

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i just don't think achilles and hades are the spears for me.

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I'm leaning Vintage Nectar?

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Brilliant Gemstones could be handy too though

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 10:47 PM

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spear has been the hardest for me to clear on high heats

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Bro ace

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 10:47 PM

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sup

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I haven't beaten the gane a second time yet

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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LOL

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NW

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I stopped playing for weeks

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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vanquisher's keep is so worth it. especially if you care more about getting all the diamonds and keys to max out gameplay related upgrades quickly

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I only beat the game for the first time 2 days ago

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Picked up the spear because it gave the darkness bonus and beat the gane first try

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I've just progressed alot since then

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 10:49 PM

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And I only replayed hades because another game is down right now

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:49 PM

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@mellow quest ah, getting more diamonds wouldk be good

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How much does it give gem-wise?

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I assume the play is to trade up at the broker?

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:49 PM

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10, 20, 30, 50

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and it gets benefit off dark thirst

zinc oasis Oct 15, 2020, 10:49 PM

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1 Diamond is 1000 gems

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:49 PM

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if you have the 20% gemstone thing as well

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Darker Thirst you mean?

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Yeah I have that.

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:50 PM

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yeah, whatever. mechanically it's just an effect attached to dark thirst

zinc oasis Oct 15, 2020, 10:50 PM

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You don't really need to exchange things, prophecy and runs gave you a lot of diamonds

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Now does Vanquisher's Keep help me get more upgrades though?

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I mean it doesn't really seem like that many gems.

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And the only gem unlock I have left is Superior Plunder

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The rest is just cosmetic

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It seems... like not a lot? idk.

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I guess I could hope for the 100 gems -> diamond special deal

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Hitting that once with a stash of gems would easily net a ton of diamonds

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:52 PM

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i mean considering otherwise you only ever get them 5 or 10 at a time outside of treasure troves

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Yeah tbh I mostly just get them from troves

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Alrighty, VK it is.

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Goodbye all of my diamonds...

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 10:54 PM

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I've unlocked guan yu's hidden aspect now... is any of the hidden aspects particularly good?

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Superior trove would be my pick

zinc oasis Oct 15, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Sword is the best aspect of this game

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:54 PM

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I don't have the gems for superior trove yet.

zinc oasis Oct 15, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Secret aspect of sword *

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:54 PM

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But I have nothing to support that other than guessing haha

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:54 PM

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But now i should get the gems more quickly.

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Also Guan Yu is pretty good imo.

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 10:54 PM

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I feel like I've got a great aspect for all my weapons already...

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ah yeah I read about the excalibur, seems like you can facetank stuff with it?

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is that worth it compared to poseidon burst build with exit wounds?

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:55 PM

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It's pretty great at face tanking

zinc oasis Oct 15, 2020, 10:55 PM

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All aspects are good, you need to find the one who suit you

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:55 PM

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They play completely different

zinc oasis Oct 15, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I love Excalibur and hate Guan Yu and one of my friend love Guan Yu and hate exca

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I would clarify and say all aspects are viable at 20 or less heat

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But some are very much better than others

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Like it would take a lot to convince me that Eris is worse than zag rail

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 10:57 PM

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yeah I noticed that, for me poseidon aspect is complete faceroll, whereas fists are very much more challenging

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:57 PM

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i would say the only the rail and fist hidden aspects need some tuning if they're gonna be more viable for higher heat runs

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 10:57 PM

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and charon with chill kinda faceroll

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is the hidden aspect of fist better than the others? It's the weapon I have most difficulties with 🙂

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I only have Poseidon Sword, Achilles and Guan Yu spear, Chaos Shield, Hera Bow, Demeter Firts, and Eris Rail

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:57 PM

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with the fists it's mostly that your dash strike/upper do pathetically low damage and slow you down hard with clearing rooms

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Based my picks on what people here seem to like haha

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But I like them all.

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I have hades spear, it's slightly hard to play honestly

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Hades spear feels weakest to me

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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it's a 10 second debuff for a lot of extra damage

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Achilles Spear is great.

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I might even say weaker than zag... Not sure

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Yeah but spin attack is such a pain to use

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I may upgrade it tbh. The +50% per level is a huge boost.

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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i only struggle to get spins in if im trying forced overtime 2

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I'd rather just have rocket special on zag and kill everything with one button

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 10:59 PM

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it's not like you even need to do a full spin

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the baby one is enough

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 11:00 PM

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How is Beowulf?

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Yeah that's true...it could be good... All I said is it feels weak to me. I just don't really like spins

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 11:00 PM

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I just got the option but idk if I want to sink titan blood into it soon

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 11:00 PM

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you can also dash while charging a spin in case you didn't know

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and you will move with it

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 11:00 PM

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how's gilgamesh aspect? is it much better than the normal ones?

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you can also dash while charging a spin in case you didn't know
WTF

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actual game changer

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Yeah i know you can dash between the attack and the charge and once after fully charged

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Still feels awkward to me

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Hmm

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So which Zag aspects are the best?

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I find myself not upgrading them because I want to unlock all of the aspects and they don't help with that

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 11:01 PM

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regarding fist aspect nothing even comes close to the raw output that the maxed demeter aspect can do

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Umm bow or shield maybe?

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 11:02 PM

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@mellow quest the raw frosty power of the Coors Lite party train in every punch?

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 11:02 PM

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12 hits before you can do the buffed up special though

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:02 PM

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What Demeter build? I was unds rthr impression thaf ME was the most dps on fist and that doesn't need demeter

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 11:02 PM

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is that even viable in a non-boss fight?

tranquil violet Oct 15, 2020, 11:02 PM

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https://www.theonion.com/breaking-hundreds-feared-dead-in-coors-light-party-tra-1819595586

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Me when I'm playing Demeter builds

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 11:02 PM

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yeah but during those 12 hits you are doing broken stuff like merciful end

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and clearing rooms very very quickly

willow fossil Oct 15, 2020, 11:03 PM

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man everytime i die because of the laser hitting me thru the pillar i get so mad

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 11:03 PM

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i personally enjoy talos aspect the most though

hearty elbow Oct 15, 2020, 11:03 PM

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12 seems like a big number, but it really just isn't lol, considering that the empowered special basically instakills anything.

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 11:03 PM

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hmm, might save up 16 blood and try out things and reset if I don't like it

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 11:03 PM

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being able to succ splitters over to you or snakestones is very cool

fossil compass Oct 15, 2020, 11:04 PM

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thank you for suggestion friends 🙂

robust anchor Oct 15, 2020, 11:04 PM

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yw :)

mellow quest Oct 15, 2020, 11:05 PM

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the bonus damage isn't anything crazy though when you compare it to stuff like hades/achilles spear

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or eris

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Yeah but pulling enemies is fun

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I guess talos is supposed to be fists closest approximation to a cast oriented build? But it's kinda just like worse Achilles or eris for that

robust anchor Oct 15, 2020, 11:13 PM

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the first 3 fists are very similar

gilded nymph Oct 15, 2020, 11:13 PM

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what cast do you run with achilles?

proven osprey Oct 15, 2020, 11:14 PM

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the one you want really

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:14 PM

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I thi k the aoe ones benefit a lot

proven osprey Oct 15, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Poseidon, Dio are nice

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:14 PM

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So flood shot or electric

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Dio too

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Demeter cast can melt enemies with the right secondaries and duos too

solid grail Oct 15, 2020, 11:15 PM

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I was wondering if you guys could recommend some builds for aspect of lucifer?

solid hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Not me haha.. I have never had too much success with it

robust anchor Oct 15, 2020, 11:17 PM

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zeus attack

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Lucifer is the next thing I'm gonna try and clear 40 heat with

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I never seem to get enough damange for final boss tho

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I prob need to stop taking eternal chamber

solid portal Oct 15, 2020, 11:22 PM

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once you have defeated the game with each weapon whats the best way to farm blood?

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PoP?

willow fossil Oct 15, 2020, 11:23 PM

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heat

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thats the most consistent way

solid portal Oct 15, 2020, 11:23 PM

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ok that makes sense

willow fossil Oct 15, 2020, 11:23 PM

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cause broker is rng pretty much to get it for keys

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and prophecies

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well

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you know how that works

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:28 PM

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To some extent prophecies

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Beating once with every weapon, every mirror option and every pact option are the ones I remember

willow fossil Oct 15, 2020, 11:32 PM

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wait hold the f up

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https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/jbglnb/things_i_learned_at_today_years_old/

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 11:34 PM

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LOL

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no way

solid grail Oct 15, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Is it possible to get the flurry shot hammer on aspect of Rama? I have played it a fair few times and never had that choice appear on my hammer options

unkempt zephyr Oct 15, 2020, 11:35 PM

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And Artur Aura switch off all traps. and lava counts as trap

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 11:36 PM

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wanted to ask something else too
rolled breaching cross + zeus attack on zagreus fists, so i'm looking pretty good

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first boon in asphodel is hermes

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Is it possible to get the flurry shot hammer on aspect of Rama?
no

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/gWPoVMu.jpg

Imgur

unkempt pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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i would imagine for balance reasons

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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not sure whether i want haste or dodge

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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what weapon or u using

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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zag fists!

calm saddle Oct 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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dodge then

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 11:38 PM

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got it, ty!

halcyon vault Oct 15, 2020, 11:45 PM

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How can I beat thanatos by 15 kills? I'm trying to get 'Death Dealer' achievement.

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Elysium is a good chance since killing the undying is basically two kills for one enemy

robust anchor Oct 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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get big damage or get good

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eventually youll get it without even trying

halcyon vault Oct 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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i got a save copy with all upgrades, best weapon of choice?

robust anchor Oct 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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than is a pushover

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Or a polite way of saying it: patience

robust anchor Oct 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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eris and chiron are popular

plush latch Oct 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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yeah, plus sometimes just not enough enemies will spawn

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dont obsess over it

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it'llhappen.png

halcyon vault Oct 15, 2020, 11:50 PM

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or Thanatos won't spawn, just got to keep going to elysium and restart

robust anchor Oct 15, 2020, 11:51 PM

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edgelord goth boyfriend stops time to protect me from the demons of heck and then give me his heart

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i love than and meg

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and dusa a little

primal hazel Oct 15, 2020, 11:53 PM

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bouldy

woven bear Oct 15, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Anybody ever get a good auto Revenge build going?

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Maybe paired with the ares poseidon duo to become a walking ball of death

turbid needle Oct 15, 2020, 11:56 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rhu1p0Ck9M

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woven bear Oct 15, 2020, 11:57 PM

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That dudes done everything. Legend

robust anchor Oct 15, 2020, 11:57 PM

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yes look up afk hades

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I wonder if it's possible (with a good early boon) to do a dash-only run.

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No direct attacks only say Zeus dash + all sorts of chain lightning and jolt effects

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Can take other boons for duos just can't use them.

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yes look up afk hades
@robust anchor first comment on that video "Grant me the aspect of Luigi!"

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Accurate

robust anchor Oct 16, 2020, 12:05 AM

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yes possible a few people have done poseidon dash on fist4 with no attack or specials only dash damage

unkempt zephyr Oct 16, 2020, 12:13 AM

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disgusting sword gameplay

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 12:23 AM

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So, Poseidon sword...

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What are some synergies with dislodging other than exit wounds?

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Exit wounds is great but it's hyper specific and a bit tricky to reliably get.

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 12:24 AM

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the dislodge pairs well with exit wounds but there's not really other synergies with it

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the point is that you machine gun fast when you have an easy method of dislodging

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besides maybe greater recall lol

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Yeah but it also doesn't seem great for cast builds in general

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 12:25 AM

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getting your main manner of damage back in a very fast method isn't great for cast builds?

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casts' worst issue is the lack of spammability

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infernal can somewhat spam but then you have to wait for dislodge and go pick the stones up, stygian forces you to wait 3 secs between attacks

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there's a reason why quick reload, auto reload, and greater recall are some of the best cast upgrades you can find

north panther Oct 16, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Attack speed affects how fast stuff like your shots charge and shield bounce /return work right?

primal hazel Oct 16, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Attack speed affects the speed of your attack

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It's a dedicated button and dedicated term in this game

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Special only affects special

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So everything that that one button does

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Special would affect shield throw

north panther Oct 16, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Right but I mean, attack speed affects everything attack does, special speed affects everything shield/other specials do

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Okay that's what I was wondering, cheers

primal hazel Oct 16, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Yes

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Np

calm saddle Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 AM

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holy lucifer aspect is broken

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maybe i just got lucky with my zeus boons but damn that was an easy clear

primal hazel Oct 16, 2020, 12:39 AM

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It's pretty eh to be honest

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Imo

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Well I wouldn't call it broken
But it's fun
Just a having a laser cannon

hearty elbow Oct 16, 2020, 12:41 AM

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What you're experiencing is Lighting + Rail. Try this with Eris.

north panther Oct 16, 2020, 12:41 AM

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That's the only way I can stand to play rail

tawdry sleet Oct 16, 2020, 1:00 AM

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The build that got me my first full clear || https://i.imgur.com/MhS2GL5.png ||

Imgur

untold iris Oct 16, 2020, 1:04 AM

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whats most important on generic sword?

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I randomed artemis as my first boon and can either take deadly strike or hunter dash

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if it matters, dash is epic and strike is rare

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 1:09 AM

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are you talking about zag sword?

untold iris Oct 16, 2020, 1:10 AM

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i got bored and took deadly strike

tawdry sleet Oct 16, 2020, 1:17 AM

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What is everyone's preferred aspect for the Twin Fists?

untold iris Oct 16, 2020, 1:17 AM

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deflect on something

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either dash or attack

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and then spam dash attack

tawdry sleet Oct 16, 2020, 1:18 AM

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The aspect, that you can unlock and equip in the weapon room I mean

untold iris Oct 16, 2020, 1:18 AM

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oh

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I think they're all pretty good tbh

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regular fists have nice dodge chance
talos gives an interesting playstyle
demeter has the big special bursts

placid topaz Oct 16, 2020, 1:19 AM

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im still enjoying talos due to styx, but i know the others are probs better for damage/speed

untold iris Oct 16, 2020, 1:19 AM

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im not a big fan of gilgamesh but its certainly fine in its own right

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 1:23 AM

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i prefer demeter but talos is nice

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 1:26 AM

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How is Beowulf?

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 1:29 AM

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good

royal helm Oct 16, 2020, 1:41 AM

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@untold iris Zeus boon on attack most likely. Since the flat damage + the attack speed should be pushing the most damage

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All the super high attack speed, low base damage things are that way. (Base fist)

gilded nymph Oct 16, 2020, 2:00 AM

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ay yo nobody told me athena cast on hera bow is this nuts

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also do you guys like god's pride or god's legacy

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Pride

placid topaz Oct 16, 2020, 2:04 AM

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which one is which again?

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:05 AM

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How do things like Yarn work with Persuasion?

spare flare Oct 16, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Pride is epic. Legacy is leg/duo.

rare kayak Oct 16, 2020, 2:05 AM

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pride

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a good epic basic boon can carry you pretty damn far

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Will rerolling use it up? Trying a build

spare flare Oct 16, 2020, 2:06 AM

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I used Legacy to fill out my prophecies, but Pride seems like the better choice.

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The yarn is used as soon as you interact with the boon.

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I don't know whether it applies to rerolled options or not.

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I'd assume so, but heck me; this is a roguelite.

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Hmmm. I haven't been able to find an answer anywhere, haha

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True

spare flare Oct 16, 2020, 2:07 AM

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We don't @ the devs, here, but how do we get answers to heck that no one knows?

rare kayak Oct 16, 2020, 2:07 AM

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i feel like its something sgg would put in

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:09 AM

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damn so like I get why people maybe wouldn't like Herme's feather for later game but I'm sort of earlier in the game and idk why I slept on it for so long. Doing a EM2 run right now, just cleared the Furies and have an 11% auto dodge chance already

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Current run build has triple bomb on Eris, epic hangover on special, weakness on attack.

This is the most fun I've had in a while, haha

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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like I get wanting Acorn or Tooth for Hades but you don't need an extra DD or Immunity if you can't get hit Kappa

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Thats the thing about plume, you don't equip it late game

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You wear for the whole run

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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ye

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Same for butterfly

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Plume fist runs are hecka fun

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Don't the Satyr caves each count as individual encounters tho?

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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No

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Thatd be broken lol

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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ahhhhhhh

maiden pike Oct 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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worth pointing out that speedrunners don't run either, which should tell you a lot about how worth butterfly actually is

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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It works for anything else, except plume and butterfly

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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What do they tend to use?

maiden pike Oct 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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the god keepsakes are quite good, as is the call one

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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The thing about plume and butterfly, is they are late game stuff, and for speedrunning you need something that helps early as well as late

maiden pike Oct 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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unseeded runs start with zeus

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Huh. Why Zeus?

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Early clear

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Chain attack helps clear rooms

maiden pike Oct 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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just watch the speedruns tbh, eris rail wr is currently 6:45

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Ohhh makes sense

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Geez

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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jesus sub-7 is a thing

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wtf

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Yeha eris got based dmg high enoug, and zeus helps with the aoe

maiden pike Oct 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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eris damage buff applies to zeus dmg

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all damage

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Correct

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Is global

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Thats what makes it so good

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Incoming nerf dusa

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:14 AM

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The fact that people got the game below 10 minutes is impressive to me tbh

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So major props to everyone who does those runs.

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 2:14 AM

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That is impressive yes

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:15 AM

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If my sub 15 wasn't a 4 chamber Styx though it might've even been a sub 13, which would've been awesome

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But yea

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Fun fact

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If you mark an enemy and then shoot through them and hit other enemies and manage to crit

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They all take crit damage

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So the crit gets applied to the projectile which then continues on crit-boosted it seems

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:20 AM

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... It would appear that rerolling uses up the yarn or eurydice's thing

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Welp

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:21 AM

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I just noticed too, my Plume is only R1 👀 when it it's rank 3 does it make it 3% per quick clear?

ruby tundra Oct 16, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Went from all epic, rolled again, all common

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Feels bad eheh

half crater Oct 16, 2020, 2:25 AM

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plume upgrade goes 1%/1.3%/1.6%

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so no it doesn’t get to 3% sadly

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also: oof

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rip rarity

unkempt zephyr Oct 16, 2020, 2:28 AM

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The fact that people got the game below 10 minutes is impressive to me tbh
@fickle summit How i know World record 6:45 (In game time)

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Well that's cuz Eris Rail is busted right?

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Also lots of dedication, yea

unkempt geyser Oct 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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uhhh quick confirmation to make sure i am not going crazy, beowulf casts are still all flare right

unkempt zephyr Oct 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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cuz poseiodon dash busted

calm saddle Oct 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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eh

mighty ermine Oct 16, 2020, 2:30 AM

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@unkempt geyser they should be?

unkempt geyser Oct 16, 2020, 2:30 AM

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@mighty ermine i would assume nothing changed, i just happened to check wiki activity and saw someone make this edit, which made me thonk https://hades.gamepedia.com/Ares?curid=313&diff=7904&oldid=7770

calm saddle Oct 16, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I like Athena dash a lot tbh

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Also I first tried Aphrodite cast last run and was not aware that it is basically a love shotgun

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:34 AM

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why am I so bad at this game 😢

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Ooh c

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Cluster bomb + Eris is nice

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:35 AM

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I keep dying to Hades

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Spend a couple runs learning his patterns

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He's not hard he just hits like a truck

dense valley Oct 16, 2020, 2:35 AM

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^

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Also take out the vases and skulls ASAP

dense valley Oct 16, 2020, 2:35 AM

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once you get to him enough times it will click

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:35 AM

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As long as they're not in play his omnilaser isn't that bad

dense valley Oct 16, 2020, 2:35 AM

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and you realise he has like, 3 attacks

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:35 AM

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But clean them up judiciously

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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tried making build based on boons from Dion and Ares but still get killed easy
best I did was made it to his 2nd phase

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Don't let him pollute the screen with obstacles and he's individually not very hard

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Prioritize not taking damage.

dense valley Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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if you can make it to his second phase you can beat him

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Take your time and don't take damage yeah

dense valley Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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his first phase is harder

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Second phase is only hard if you don't clear vases near the pillars

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Or have bad skull placement and don't clear them

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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The last thing you want is suprise 75 damage because you get hit by like 2 attacks.

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Oh okay

dense valley Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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even if skulls trigger theyre not that hard to dodge

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Unless he's mid laser

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Then it can be tricky to thread the needle

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Usually not but sometimes

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Also apparently you can stand inside of him to dodge lasers

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I haven't tested that

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Just spend a couple minutes learning to dodge all his attacks

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Once you do that he's far less scary

dense valley Oct 16, 2020, 2:37 AM

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yeah ive been inside of him before

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but i was yoloing anyway

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:37 AM

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is blade rift and hangover attack/special a good mix?

dense valley Oct 16, 2020, 2:37 AM

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so its not something i was trying for or would risk doing consistently

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i normally only go for the backstab when he does tribeam

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Personally I've never used either of those.

Also what weapon?

dense valley Oct 16, 2020, 2:38 AM

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it doesnt really have any synergies that i can think of

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but its enough to win a run with

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Eris + Zeus Attack + Trippy Shot + Cluster Bomb =

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THIS IS MY BULLET HELL NOW

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:38 AM

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blade of underworld @fickle summit

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:39 AM

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How many attempts have you had so far?

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:39 AM

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almost 100

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101 now

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Have you tried switching to Rail or Bow?

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Dionysus is good with stuff that hits a lot

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Like rail or fists

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:39 AM

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yes I have been experimenting lately.
I have had the most success with the first weapon, the sword

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Stack DOTs

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:40 AM

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before that, I preferred the spear.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Trippy Shot is also just good in most situations

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Personally I'm not great with sword but I do know that divine dash is like, a requirement

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:40 AM

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I love the spear special

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and the sword primary

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feels good to play

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:40 AM

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I wouldn't say requirement but yeah for Sword or Fists I find myself almost needing divine dash or some kind of healing/damage reduction

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If you have enough Weak then you can get by with dark Regen

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Even if you face tank rooms

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I do well enough with the gun or fists but the sword has yielded better runs for me recently

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Weak is way better than it looks

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I find myself really liking Spear and Bow

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:41 AM

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the bow I am terrible with

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:41 AM

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But I like to keep some space

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Honestly if you're concerned about getting hit I'd say maybe start with Athena for divine dash then go for Poseidon.

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I love bow

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:41 AM

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cant even beat elysium with bow usually

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:41 AM

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You just dash strike all over the place and it works.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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So far I've beaten Hades with fists and spear

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Both with bizarre builds I didn't really like

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I've won with every weapon but fists

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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yeah Ive only reached Hades 2nd form with the sword

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I had a stupid fists build haha

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So much healing

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And so much weak

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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What mirror stuff do you have enabled, Crypt?

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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okay sounds like I need to try sword with Divine dash and some nice Poseidon boons next

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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And lots and lots of Chill

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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all mirror stuff. I have 4 alter thingys

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:43 AM

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If you're taking alot of damage to Hades 2 I'd recommend having Death Defiance maxed

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:43 AM

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yeah good call always

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:43 AM

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And taking the tooth into Styx

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Death Defiance and Dark Regen are the most important talents imo

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Just respec as soon as you can max them

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Increased health and starting money are good

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The rest are mostly just nice to have and increase success rate.

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:44 AM

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More crystals for casting is literally what validates casts in the first place

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So uhh get that

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:44 AM

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But the difference between not having +50 base HP, dark Regen, and 3 lives and having it is huge

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Oh yeah the extra shards is also important

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Without that you can't really do cast builds

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I thought casting was lame until I had 3

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Yea

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3 Dem casts = shadesmile

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Then there's stuff like Olympian Favkr

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Which isn't essential but once it's cranked up to 25%...

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Well you're just gonna have better runs

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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More max HP of course

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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I just noticed the icon to unlock more mirror abilities now.

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never noticed before

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Forgot which mirror thing that was but, get it

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Dark Regen really changes everything though

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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I just maxed out all the default mirror abilities

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Not needing to spend money on healing means you can focus on saving money for shop boons

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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except alter thingys

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Or for the Styx shop

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:45 AM

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ye

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:46 AM

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ayyyyyyyyyy just got my fastest run so far, just under 22 minutes

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Switch the one to Dark Regen

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It's green

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:46 AM

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plume is the goat

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Dark Regen is infinitely better than its alternative

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:46 AM

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My goal is sub 15 with everything but shield

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:46 AM

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At low heat anyways idk about high heat

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I don't even know if I can sub 20 shield without feeling pain

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 2:47 AM

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speed running with shield is counterintuitive lmao

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:47 AM

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My first shield run was 29 minutes

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Why is it so slow

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Also: just learned, Marked is baller

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Artemis is baller dude

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Especially with Artemis on both attacks

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And extra shield damage on special and explosive shots 😂

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With Hera bow

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Mark and then charge up a triple cast explosive shot

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BOOOOOOOM

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I need to learn how to use Hera bow

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:48 AM

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ez

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Load casts

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Go boom

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Main thing is don't use too many casts

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Doesn't it change with cast though?

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:48 AM

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If you only need 1, only use 1

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It stacks the cast onto your attack

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So you can pile on all kinds of effects

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Add on explosive shot and crits and you can slam out 500+ damage in Tartarus

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Killing the sneak with that felt great

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Wow

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Elysium is harder though

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Okay I maxed dark regen. should help

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Explosive + Twin Shot with Rama btw is so good.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I need to get Rama

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:50 AM

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You literally become a bomb.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I think I'll unlock Chiron and upgrade Hera to fill out my required blood for Rama

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Well

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Hera upgrade seems a bit meh

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We'll see.

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I love Rama.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I love lamp.

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Definitely my favorite bow aspect to use

somber cedar Oct 16, 2020, 2:50 AM

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anyone have a good build for defeating the minotaur and sheild boss

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Pretty much any developed build at that point will work

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 2:51 AM

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got epic Divine Dash for first boon just now 😄

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Main thing is to take out Asterius (the bull) first

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:51 AM

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I personally prioritize killing Asterius first because Theseus is painfully easy to dodge.

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Like you have an indicator for when to dodge and everything

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:51 AM

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I think everyone focuses Asterius

gilded nymph Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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what does zeus legendary even do

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is it good?

somber cedar Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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yeah that shield is top tier annoying

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Wrecks stuff

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@somber cedar after every throw he turns around and walks back for a couple seconds

gilded nymph Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I have an artemis cast build and got zeus leg

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rip

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Just dodge his throw and then attack him but dodge away before he spins

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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It turns electric attacks into chain electric attacks, right?

gilded nymph Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I'm taking jolted over it lol

somber cedar Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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@tranquil violet alright ty for the advice

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Asterius and Theseus were hard for me at first

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But after a few more runs they're not that bad

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Also Kyler look at the indicator when Theseus is gonna throw, it's the same indicator for the archers in Elsyium and will glow brighter before the attack.

spare flare Oct 16, 2020, 2:53 AM

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So, this Hazard Bomb Eris thing . . . Can someone explain what's going on?

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Are people just memeing when they say that it's a strong combo?

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:54 AM

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It's the best build in the game

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:54 AM

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It's kinda broken

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:54 AM

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It is factually broken

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 2:54 AM

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its weaker compared to cluster bomb eris

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:54 AM

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residentzag

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I'm on Cluster Bomb Eris right now

spare flare Oct 16, 2020, 2:54 AM

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You damage yourself . . . for what purpose?

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:54 AM

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What I need to do is try Dem fists.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 AM

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@spare flare what more reason do you need?

somber cedar Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 AM

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but 300% more damage

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Life is suffering.

spare flare Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 AM

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So yes, memeing?

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 AM

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you can dash at the right moment to get the boost and not hurt yourself

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 AM

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All runs eventually take you back to the house

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 AM

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takes some practice, but hazard bomb eris isn't a complete dead end

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Hazard Eris just does it faster

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you can dash at the right moment to get the boost and not hurt yourself
@unkempt pagoda !!

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Oh is that so?

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Can you Athena reflect it?

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If so that'd be great.

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 2:56 AM

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the dash's i-frames work on hazard bomb

spare flare Oct 16, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Huh. So, you can.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Cluster Bomb Eris is so much fun so far

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Makes it so easy to keep the buff going nonstop

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:57 AM

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So you're literally playing the game with 300% damage the whole time

somber cedar Oct 16, 2020, 2:57 AM

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cluster bomb eris and gas bomb for Dionisius

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good combo

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 2:58 AM

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I have trippy shot, Zeus attack, cluster bomb

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I'm having a grand old time

fickle summit Oct 16, 2020, 2:58 AM

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That enchantment that turns the rail shot into a blast is amazing btw.

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For me atleast

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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I also have Athena dash

gilded nymph Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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why can't I use batty on hades>

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Good times

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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cause meg works for hades

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later on, he will let you

gilded nymph Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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how

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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you need to trigger the dialogue

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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athena dash is suck a clutch boon

gilded nymph Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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oh ok

willow fossil Oct 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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after the epilogue i think

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Where were you when you learned that Dracon's don't count towards clearing rooms?

forest ether Oct 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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wait what

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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In some rooms where they appear the combat ends when you kill all non Dracon enemies

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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sounds like a bug

covert hatch Oct 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Trying to salvage an Eris run, should I take Explosive Fire or Seeking Fire for my second hammer

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Or Rocket Bomb

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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what first hammer

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probably rocket bomb regardless

covert hatch Oct 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Delta Chamber

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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hmm

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delta with those first two might be interesting

covert hatch Oct 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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I made the mistake of taking triple Death Defy and Lasting Consequences 4

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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attack/special boon?

covert hatch Oct 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Zeus attack, Artemis special

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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hard choice

covert hatch Oct 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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I think Seeking seems safest?

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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my gut says explosive delta for infinite slowdown and aoe lightning

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i don't really like seeking much

covert hatch Oct 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Oh does that trigger a chain on every enemy hit

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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maybe? probably

covert hatch Oct 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Filthy

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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if it's like other aoes, like piercing

covert hatch Oct 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Looks like explosive works then

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Should proc Seeking Fire multiple times too, then

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Support Fire

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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don't know about that one, but feel free to test it out

gilded nymph Oct 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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ima try a special eris build

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what boons should I run

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:19 AM

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aphro or arte on special

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dont know what else

cinder flower Oct 16, 2020, 3:19 AM

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what are some good builds for rama bow

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:19 AM

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maybe demeter on attack to make sure things stay in the targeting circle

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cluster bomb is good

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maybe the one hammer that makes enemies targeted take more damage or slowed down i think will work

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also for rama i think dio or demeter on special and aprho on attack

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:20 AM

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You know what would be fun?

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Aspect of Red for the sword :p

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:21 AM

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it would be cool, even if it would be difficult to make

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maybe its main attack would be like world splitter and applies crash debuff onto enemies, making the next non attack deal more damage

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special would be the breach ability that has a very large amount of range.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Yeah idk how it'd work

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But it would be fun

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:23 AM

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maybe it grants access to turn()

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and you basically get some time to do stuff for free

pallid dagger Oct 16, 2020, 3:24 AM

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im gonna [censored expletives]
why is it so damn hard to get a decent-rarity boon??? why

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:24 AM

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That + Pierced Butterfly...

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Would be potentially broken

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:24 AM

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maybe

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:24 AM

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I never seem to have any issues with that @pallid dagger

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:24 AM

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but when turn is on cooldown the only thing you can do is dash

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Have you tried walking into the sea?

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:25 AM

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i think theres a poseidon boon that increases rarity

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Also an Aspect of The Kid

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Has no effects except giving you the Bastion narrator

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:25 AM

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lmao

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what weapon would that be the aspect of

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Probably rail

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Effects: bastion narrator, and SPIKE IN A RAIL plays nonstop

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No in game buffs but it is a buff to the player

wicked horizon Oct 16, 2020, 3:26 AM

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i think theres a poseidon boon that increases rarity
@hazy slate it's a poseidon/dio duo boon

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:26 AM

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oh ok that makes things a bit more complicated

wicked horizon Oct 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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For sure

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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do you use god keepsakes often?

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they increase the likelihood of higher rarity boons for the corresponding god iirc

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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They increase the likelihood of Rare alone I believe

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Same as the mirror

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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also rarity isnt incredibly important until you get to high heats i think

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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It makes a big difference on some weapons

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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fair

pallid dagger Oct 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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i know. i am on a (for me) high heat.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Like if you're using rail or fist, a high rarity Zeus attack is waaaay better than a plain one

pallid dagger Oct 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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i wouldn't be doing this, but i've got a crap ton of stuff to buy from the contractor.

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keeping up with forced overtime at 40% requires a decent rarity start at the very least

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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maybe reroll early and see if the boons youre getting are a good rarity

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Use the rarity boosting talent?

pallid dagger Oct 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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which has been the real problem. every set of boons i get, rare-to-epic, except the ones at the start.

it's a conspiracy

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Or yeah reroll

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:29 AM

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and if they arent just die again to change the seed

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Getting killed by numbskulls is never acceptable

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Better to stand on spikes

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:30 AM

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just use high security and guan yu

cinder flower Oct 16, 2020, 3:30 AM

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@unkempt pagoda do you have any suggested rama bow builds?

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:30 AM

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So I have a problem with Cluster Eris

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:30 AM

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~~high security is the heat that increases trap damage right~~

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:30 AM

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I can't frickin see anything 😂

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:30 AM

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lmao

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Too many explosions and Trippy Shots

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And it's distracting to have to yell COMMANDO! every time you dash

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WHO KILLED ALEX OF MACEDON?

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:33 AM

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pretty sure half a dozen people stabbed him 6 dozen times

pallid dagger Oct 16, 2020, 3:33 AM

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has anyone ever yelled about how annoying numbskulls are on FO

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i've run through three rooms of nothing but elite numbskulls

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i am going to explode

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Attack Rama:

Artemis or Aphrodite attack (but any damage modifier god works)
Twin is the go-to, but Triple also works (you need to be closer to shotgun with it)
Chain snowballs Shared Suffering very well
Point-Blank is amazing on its own but beautiful with Twin or Triple
Explosive is risky but does a whoooooooole lot of damage
Perfect is, well, perfect. Patches up Rama's slow charge time and is a great hammer choice regardless
don't use sniper or repulse lol

cinder flower Oct 16, 2020, 3:35 AM

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so attack is better in 1.0? I saw some old post about spec was better but wasn't sure

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Special Rama (assuming you're just gonna spam special):

Dionysus (wants Hangover-related duo boons) or Zeus (wants to focus down Zeus)
Doom can also work if you invest some more into Dire Misfortune and Impending Doom
Relentless, obviously
You want Swift Flourish
You can hold down the Special button to machine gun! Take advantage of this so you don't get carpal tunnel

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Hybrid Rama:

Relentless + any of the aforementioned attack hammers above (usually just Twin)
Damage modifier on attack, Zeus or Dio on special (Dio is better at DC breaking, plus if you use Privileged Status)
Otherwise, build like Attack Rama
Go to town

cinder flower Oct 16, 2020, 3:38 AM

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this was much more detailed than i was expecting lol

lost merlin Oct 16, 2020, 3:38 AM

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What's the best hammer upgrades for bow and fists?

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:38 AM

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you always want to spam special for shared suffering if you ever want to use attack on rama, btw

cinder flower Oct 16, 2020, 3:38 AM

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yeah

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:38 AM

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especially if you have something like twin, triple, or chain, as they multiply together gorgeously

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:39 AM

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i think the top 3 hammers for fists imo is the longer range, rush kick, explosive upper

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for bow, probably concentrated volley if youre going chiron

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can rama get concentrated volley

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:40 AM

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What's the best hammer upgrades for bow and fists?
assuming non-rama - twin, flurry, charged volley (the rest are secondary)
for chiron, always always always relentless + concentrated volley

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hera doesn't need hammers, as it'll be entirely reliant on cast build

calm saddle Oct 16, 2020, 3:40 AM

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^^^

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i think the top 3 hammers for fists imo is the longer range, rush kick, explosive upper
@hazy slate the one the weaves ur dash strike in is nice but not necc

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:41 AM

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however, hera can pull off a mean attack/cast hybrid (since you need to be doing something while casts are dislodging/fog is wafting/shot is slicing/stygian is regenerating), so build for attack if you come across hammers

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Nobody asked but the top 3 sword hammers are greater consecration (Arthur only) double edge and breaching slash

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Sword hammers are kinda poopy

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:42 AM

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yeah

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:43 AM

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But double edge is one of the best hammers in the game

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:43 AM

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dont use the other weapons too often to know what the good hammers are for them

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:43 AM

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If you use nemesis it is double damage + 40% more

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How is that not insane

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:43 AM

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one thing to note is that flurry might look like a great hammer for hera (faster cast output, woo!), but the trade-off is that you have no nuance of aiming at all

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:43 AM

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also it can crit

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I can’t use hera lol

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:44 AM

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if you're using something like trippy flare on hera, this might result in the arrow piercing the foe and bombing the area behind it...

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I am a bit better at beowulf shield but uhh yeah

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I suck at both

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The only cast aspect I remotely know how to use is the Poseidon sword

serene zealot Oct 16, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Btw is it me or Rama doesn't really work with boss?

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Beowulf I really like

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Rama should work with bosses

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:46 AM

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wdym

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:46 AM

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The extra damage is nothing to sneeze at

serene zealot Oct 16, 2020, 3:46 AM

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I was running a hybrid one, Zeus on special and Artemis on attack

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:46 AM

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1.6x damage on an already beefy base attack is nothing to walk past lol

serene zealot Oct 16, 2020, 3:47 AM

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The attack is too slow and the special doesn't do much damage

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Plus the shot is way wider which people underrate

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That is honestly one of the best things about it@

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:47 AM

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@cinder flower forgot to mention that for attack rama, always try to go for power shots if you can

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:47 AM

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How massive@the shot is

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:48 AM

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if you need to spam sometimes, i get it, but getting that timing down and knowing enemy openings will boost your performance with rama in the long run

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:49 AM

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thanks for the advice guys

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just beat an escape run for the first time

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:49 AM

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congrats!

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:49 AM

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used the sword with Divine Dash

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Which one

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:49 AM

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🎉

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Please say nemesis

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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sorry?

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Which sword

orchid marlin Oct 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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For the beowulf shield do people prefer the extra casts talent or the regen casts talent?

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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the first weapon in the game

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blade of the underworld

serene zealot Oct 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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First run = zagreus

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Ah zag sword

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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ah, no aspects yet?

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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zag sword is not that great compared to the alternatives

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Attack speed and move speed maxed

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:51 AM

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For the beowulf shield do people prefer the extra casts talent or the regen casts talent?
stygian with trippy flare, infernal soul otherwise

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:51 AM

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If you like the sword I recommend nemesis it is basically just zag sword but better

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:51 AM

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I have had best results with zag sword. this is my first time beating Hades after 90+ hours

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I used to use the spear all the time but could never beat Hades with it

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:51 AM

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nemesis sword gives free crit

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which is nice'

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:51 AM

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one of beo's strengths is that none of the casts don't inherently lodge and you end up where the casts drop on the ground, so infernal allows you to burst constantly

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Im not sure I have the nemesis sword

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I only have 6 weapons

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Do you have all the base weapons unlocked?

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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sword, spear, bow, fists, shield, gun

unkempt pagoda Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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all except trippy flare, which forces you to wait for the fog duration to run out, so use stygian if you're running trippy flare

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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yes

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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You should have them

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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when you pick a weapon, does it have red blood particles over its silhoette

orchid marlin Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Alright thanks

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Interact with the weapon you have equipped

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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when you pick a weapon, does it have red blood particles over its silhoette
@hazy slate yes

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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And a menu should pop up

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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then you can unlock aspects

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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I have upgraded most weapons

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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nemesis aspect is honestly one of the best aspects

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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oh ok

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thanks

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Yes it is basically sword with crit

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:53 AM

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my spear special is maxed too

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:53 AM

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you can get a high base damage boon on attack to make the most of the free crit

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:53 AM

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The 2nd and third aspects cost 15 and 16 blood respectively

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So it’s a heavy investment to max those

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:54 AM

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its worth for nemesis

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but its still good with 1 blood

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i mean at lvl 1

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since the amount of crit is the same amount you get from artemis on attack

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:54 AM

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you can get a high base damage boon on attack to make the most of the free crit
I still like Artemis attack for even more crit and heart rend

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Athena attack is good too for deadly reversal crit

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:54 AM

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aphro attack and arte special can still get me heart rend

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:54 AM

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But that only affects your special

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:54 AM

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nemesis gives crit

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Yes but arte on special is kind of a waste I think

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:55 AM

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heart rend should affect all crits

brisk sapphire Oct 16, 2020, 3:55 AM

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with the Naegling board (aspect of Beowolf), if you press right click (bloodstone) as you are charging forward with the shield, the effect goes off, not sure if that was intended.

hazy slate Oct 16, 2020, 3:55 AM

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maybe arte cast then and demeter special

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dont think about it too much cheerios

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Oh here’s something fun

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AAA

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Artemis Aphro Athena

dense crest Oct 16, 2020, 3:56 AM

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/oZ6iBKLbZb41ps888

Google Photos

New photo by That Canadian guy

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my first victory screen lolz

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Athena/Artemis attack and special

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Aphro dash

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Deadly reversal and heart rend

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It’s a legit thing

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Took a chance on an anvil

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Just to get it checked off the list of things I've bought

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Had cluster and piercing fire

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Every time I take anvil on sword I get cursed slash

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Lost piercing gained explosive fire and targeting systems

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residentzag

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Buli

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Rolled a natural 20 on anvil haha

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:58 AM

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It is almost never worth it

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Targeting System + Dionysus + Eris + Cluster is yeee

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Daily reminder cursed slash is garbage and it lies to you since it doesn’t even work on dash strikes which sucks since the normal sword combo is poopy!

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The only thing it’s good on is Arthur, I guess

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 3:59 AM

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My build is Eris + Cluster + Explosive + Zeus Atk + Trippy Shot + Zeus/Dio duo

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All the explosions, all the time!

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 3:59 AM

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And flurry slash but that’s too rare to rely on

opal lodge Oct 16, 2020, 4:00 AM

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i feel like the arthur attack rate is still too slow to use for it

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Yes

opal lodge Oct 16, 2020, 4:00 AM

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cursed slash big garbo

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Even on Arthur the only way you are getting good health from it is by hitting large crowds

severe sentinel Oct 16, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I had a build last night and I started deliberately trying to lose with it. But suddenly melted Asterius. I have no idea how or why, but from there I changed my mind, recovered three DD charges, and went on to win with something like five or six total DD charges used.

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I will admit if you can get your hands on flurry slash with Hermes attack speed and cursed slash you basically can’t die

opal lodge Oct 16, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Patty helped me limp across the finish line with hera bow

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used every death defiance

solid cairn Oct 16, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Patty op

opal lodge Oct 16, 2020, 4:01 AM

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tried doing vorime's poseidon cast thing but i am not vorime

severe sentinel Oct 16, 2020, 4:02 AM

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I have no idea why it was suddenly doing well. It was supposed to be a Chaos shield special build but it was going terrible. But my casts were somehow kicking tail.

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I got 2 extra cast charges at the end and that secured the win. I’ll dig up the post run record and post it in bragging. See if anyone can spot why it was doing well.

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Well, time for Spear Daddy

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This rail build is really strong but I seriously can't see anything that's happening

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Festive Fog and Dio clusters everywhere

orchid marlin Oct 16, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Does Lambent Plume take pacts into account? Like does it give you more time if you put on calisthenics and jury summons?

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Melts rooms in Styx though :p

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Hades, AKA Spear Daddy, AKA the Buff Bureaucrat, AKA...

spice vine Oct 16, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Am I just being dumb and not seeing them but I feel the Aspect of Chaos isn't always throwing multiple shields after a bull rush?

opal lodge Oct 16, 2020, 4:24 AM

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@spice vine could be just that you're shotgunning them straight into the enemy

spice vine Oct 16, 2020, 4:24 AM

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yeah I thought that so I threw one from away and still only saw one

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Do their models stack?
Only at level 1 sheild aswell

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so there's only 1 extra I think?

tulip blaze Oct 16, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Weird, I haven’t ever seen that happen. Could you get a recording?

spice vine Oct 16, 2020, 4:26 AM

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it'd probally be a really crappy phone one but I could try since i'm on switch

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oh wait no the switch has a built in recording dosen,t it?

tulip blaze Oct 16, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Not sure, but I’d be somewhat surprised if there wasn’t a way to do so

spice vine Oct 16, 2020, 4:27 AM

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there is

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but looking at it again

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it does spl,it

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but like really far down

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after being thrown

opal lodge Oct 16, 2020, 4:27 AM

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but yeah that shouldnt be happening

spice vine Oct 16, 2020, 4:27 AM

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is that normal?

opal lodge Oct 16, 2020, 4:27 AM

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the other shield trails are fainter

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maybe that's it?

spice vine Oct 16, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Maybe

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Cause I can 100% see two on the return

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Unlocked Beowulf

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Aphrodite cast + Dragon Rush is lulzy

opal lodge Oct 16, 2020, 4:36 AM

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what does that even do lol

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i dont touch aphro cast

tranquil violet Oct 16, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Aphro cast is great

opal lodge Oct 16, 2020, 4:36 AM

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i always assumed dio cast was the move with beowulf