So its good with Zeus and stuff
#h1-builds-and-combat
main citrus
I am struggling both with the ||Lucifer|| rail and the ||Gilgamesh|| gloves. I can reach Hades easily but damn if it isn't annoying to beat him >>
unkempt pagoda
infinite specifically is good with zeus
random light
Dash Attack gets the same bonuses that normal Attack does right? Like crit chance, damage boosts, etc?
And does Dash Attack for the Demeter Fists count towards the empowered special?
main citrus
I found that Dio dash is surprisingly useful with ||Gilgabro|| gloves
main citrus
The multidash makes the poison stack fast
unkempt pagoda
yes to all
hard holly
Yes and yes, on the dash attack thing
livid comet
(also didn't have ruthless reflex on)
unkempt pagoda
for boons, "dash attacks" are considered attacks (like squares and rectangles)
hard holly
The most important thing with ||Gilgamesh (please spoiler your thing)|| is to not use dash upper on Hades
It just makes the fight a whole lot harder
For no real reward
livid comet
yeah, tons of damage output from hades not worth the maim
hard holly
As for Lucifer Rail
Zeus attack, support fire and if youre lucky Zeus legendary
Thats really all you need
unkempt pagoda
for hammers, "dash attacks" and "attacks" are usually differentiated
robust shale
I am trying to unlock ||gilagamesh|| right now by just testing my chances, but can I have a brief explanation of its skill?
hard holly
||Attack combo is replaced with 5 slower attacks that have 60 base damage. Upper is the same. Dash-upper applies Maim to the target, which increases the damage they do by 50%, gives you an additive 25% damage boost on them, and then does damage when it expires 4 seconds later, up to 400||
main citrus
It has a more powerful rending attack with slower anim, and a dash upper that sets a debuff on the enemy.
robust shale
the wiki said it maims enemies
ah
okay thanks, is it really worth it? doesn't sound like a decent trade
main citrus
I don't use the main a lot, I like to focus on the sweeping claws
hard holly
Currently the Maim is a trap
hard holly
The extra damage you do is insignificant, the extra damage you take is very significant, and the delayed damage doesnt make up for it
Oh yeah it gets 2 extra dashes
I forgot about that
maiden pike
re: bonuses are additive
Is that true for ALL damage bonuses?
main citrus
The dash works well with the boons that you would normally use on a rail run.
unkempt pagoda
hammers are so-so
livid comet
Basically, grab the weapon, lose your dashes, build on attack?
hard holly
Thigns that say they change base damage are multiplicative
unkempt pagoda
crit specifically is 3x damage
maiden pike
I'm mostly wondering for Ruthless Reflexes, because +50% damage is not very exciting if you then have like +200% special damage lol
livid comet
it stacks tho?
maiden pike
(the dodge is still pretty insane though if that's additive?)
hard holly
Ruthless reflexes is the alternative dodge trait, right?
livid comet
yep
main citrus
The hidden glove aspect gives you double, hold to use dashes. It's good with Chill and Poison.
unkempt pagoda
isn't ruthless a global damage buff?
unkempt pagoda
or is it just attack and special
maiden pike
The dodge is huge, yeah
hard holly
I admit Ive never tested it
Also honestly?
Ive been using Greater Reflex since it came out
unkempt pagoda
if the damage is global, it's better on non-damage modifier gods (or artemis)
hard holly
Never looked back
livid comet
the problem with the new gloves is that when you dash around normally, it's super fast, but AS SOON AS you start actually hitting things, it slows down between hits.
😦
maiden pike
I guess it's mostly just good for the dodge 🤔 the thing with Ruthless is I feel I always have to fish for Hermes dashes
unkempt pagoda
so dio, zeus, blade rifts, crystal beam, etc
livid comet
oh and also Hermes recover damage on dash is super clutch with the new gloves
since you should be dash-striking like 99% of the time
main citrus
The extra dash is too good to pass >>
I don't like trusting on dodge chance. Makes you lazy, I feel
unkempt pagoda
i used to think ruthless was gonna teach me to be more mindful about dashes, but then i realized that it really didn't matter and the important thing for many cases is to get out of dodge
main citrus
I really want to like the hidden aspect gloves, because I love the character it's based in, and the rending attacks look so great. But it's really HARD to give up on Talos.
livid comet
not dodge chance
it's the one where you recover like 70% of damage taken if you dash right after
that's super good with the new gloves
main citrus
Hmm, never thought on using that one. Maybe I'll try it lol
livid comet
Yeah.
main citrus
Will help facetank more.
livid comet
Also you can give up the extra dash for the reflex talent because new gloves give you extra dashes
hard holly
Its up to 50%
main citrus
Slowly I have been recovering my style in the game. Won only three times, but damn if it wasn't satisfyinf.
hard holly
Not 70%
livid comet
increases your damage output
hard holly
That used to be an old mirror upgrade btw
main citrus
The moment I could just facetank Hades for the first time in ages without a shield was glorious.
livid comet
do the new gloves give you +2 dashes?
hard holly
Yes
quaint gale
huh. I got hermes in a tartarus shop...
livid comet
so 3 dashes out the gate with ruthless reflex... hmm I'm gonna have to try this out.
yeah you can get anything in shop
I got Hermes twice in a row in asphodel
and then again at styx
maiden pike
Greater Reflexes is really good, but I feel like when I'm already gaming iframes with dash, Ruthless is pretty fine
rose iron
@shadow ridge Regarding your "The damage is weak" on Fist belatedly...
https://clips.twitch.tv/DullOpenLardTheThing Yeah no it's fine.
maiden pike
And it's fairly consistent to get extra dashes through Hermes I think - at least it has been for me
(at least, until higher heats)
stone river
so wait since you beat the game... how do you farm titan bloods now?
maiden pike
Higher heats
maiden pike
When you raise heat to certain levels (bounties) you can re-earn all of the boss rewards
merry chasm
and a fish now as well 
livid comet
fish?
quaint gale
||surface fish ||are lining my pockets with diamonds
merry chasm
there's a fish in the game that when traded gives a Titan's Blood
livid comet
where and how
livid comet
||I'm not consistently getting surface fish||
merry chasm
||it's the rare/hard to get fish||
untold vortex
Yo please spoiler tag 1.0 content
merry chasm
gotcha
hard holly
I mean its probably about as likely as getting a voidskate
untold vortex
@quaint gale you too please
livid comet
I've never gotten a fishing point in chaos
merry chasm
same
stone river
how do you claim bounties?
quaint gale
my b
stone river
beat it again?
livid comet
yup
untold vortex
I've seen one chaos fishing spot...and I missed it
hard holly
With heat options enabled, yes
livid comet
wot
main citrus
I got only two fishing points in Chaos by now. And I don't need darkness anyway lol
hard holly
Ive gotten 2 fishing points in chaos so far
One I got a projelly
The other I got a voidskate
main citrus
I got two Projellies >>
livid comet
yeah, farming gold is much more reliable for diamonds and blood
main citrus
I am like, swimming in extra darkness by now.
livid comet
I really wish we had a use for excess darkness tbh
merry chasm
it's looking like 200/250 hours i'd be able to unlock everything
main citrus
I am only gettingt he buffs to darkness gain because it also nets gem buffs >>
bronze sorrel
Unless we're talking builds or pathing, shouldn't fishing discussions be in the discussion channel?
main citrus
I have all the mirror upgrades.
merry chasm
yeah someone asked about how to farm titan's bloods
main citrus
No use for darkness outside of being a really good source of healing.
bronze sorrel
And the conversation for builds would be "get poseidon's alt legendary" and thats basically it
main citrus
An yeah, back to building lol
merry chasm
yeah lol
hard holly
I just counted through how much Titan's blood I need
quaint gale
fishing is combat with nature if you think about it
hard holly
I am still so far away, yeesh
Though I might be able to transform a whole lot of ambrosia into Titans Blood
random light
fishing is combat with nature if you think about it
🧐🧐
bronze sorrel
fishing is combat with nature if you think about it
@quaint gale
No. Stop that. Be gone sophist.
main citrus
Gonna try Heat 8 with Arthur again. Suggestions for good Arthur boons?
livid comet
art/aph
main citrus
Ah, the heavy hit stuff. Makes sense.
quaint gale
I mean if we're being serious, it says right up there, discussion of gameplay. optimizing farming of materials is gameplay
but I digress
bronze sorrel
Gonna try Heat 8 with Arthur again. Suggestions for good Arthur boons?
@main citrus I really like Divine Strike on Artgur
merry chasm
Ares fine as well probably
main citrus
Reflecting? Never thought of using it with a slower weapon.
bronze sorrel
Slow but huge radius
merry chasm
Ever since I've gotten Blizzard Shot builds going I can't give up Posedion Aspect on sward
main citrus
I used Ares doom successfully after ages with my Rama win. It was mostly extra damage since it was a revenge run lol
merry chasm
those cast damage builds are so fun
bronze sorrel
Also your special slows projectiles to the point their almost standing still
hard holly
Ares is really bad on Arthur
main citrus
AH! Talking about Athena.
hard holly
Artemis or Aphrodite on attack
Special is, uh
Well depends if you use it as a damage tool or just utility
I like Athena special
But if you get double nova, Aphrodite or Artemis are the pick again
main citrus
In my spear run with flurry jab and triple attack, I had Artemis attack, Support Fire and the boon that boosts God Gauge via crits.
bronze sorrel
Get Divine Strike into Deadly Reversal (preferably with hunters dash)
main citrus
I swear, I popped Max Athena Aid like 5 times against Hades.
bronze sorrel
You won't regret it
hard holly
Well unless he never finds deadly reversal
quaint gale
so wait, is arte attack comparable to aphro now?
main citrus
I always loved spear but my times and performance were always sad. This Heat 8 run I did today was SO satisfying, I was fist pumping all the time
bronze sorrel
Deadly Reversal isn't that hard to find even with the changes
And its still good even without
acoustic totem
Do we need to spoiler tag hidden aspects in here?
main citrus
I need to grab the recap in the archives, I'll turn on the game quickie
hard holly
Its always been pretty comparable
bronze sorrel
I think just ||Gilgamesh||
hard holly
Less consistent, more potential
And eh, Ive not gotten Deadly Reversal quite often, despite having the conditions
Id say Aphro or Artemis are more reliable
acoustic totem
Ok. I have a quick question. Does Swift Strike work with Aspect of Lucifer?
dry ember
Spicy
livid comet
I blitzed through rooms
not my fastest but still
(it's cuz I was scrounging for gold)
hard holly
Swift Strike should work?
main citrus
I got DIvine Flourish only to get Deadly Reversal
Ended up just holding the attack button and dashing when needed. Stupidly fun.
I should save this build for my "How to Facetank 101". Stacks upon stacks of damage reduction.
brittle wind
How to win the game with stubborn defiance?? Hades is too hard with just one continue 😂
Stupid hell mode ... i hope i can turn that thing off
dry ember
What did you win with your first run?
main citrus
Huge amounts of HP + Lucky Tooth for good measure. Having the Ares boon that buffs you after the first death in a battle helps.
Now my dilemma will be how to beat Charon. And twice in a row to boot. orz
dry ember
Acorn
Provides the most HP out of all keepsake. There is a reason why all (?) high heat runs use it.
main citrus
Acorn renews on death?
unkempt pagoda
acorn can be used for all bosses
dry ember
No, but 5 hit from bosses >> 100hp (usually) so Acorn >> Tooth
unkempt pagoda
usually, anyways 😛
unkempt pagoda
maybe you get ||a full frontal of theseus's gattling gun move and waste all your hits in 3 seconds||
main citrus
After biome I knew. Just wanted to know if it was for every "life". Seems it does not :p
dry ember
Yeah it does not. That would be op.
main citrus
Oh well. I am just too used to Skelly lol
shy nexus
I see myself still running Broken Spear super much for Theseus and Hades.
unkempt pagoda
if you know attack patterns and can dodge well, acorn will get you very far
main citrus
Also, do people also use Bouldy or I am the only one who prefers the utility of +50 HP in an emergency? lol
unkempt pagoda
bouldy is used regularly, i'd say
hard holly
I use Skelly as my summon
merry chasm
bouldy
shy nexus
Butterfly is.. it's meh.
hard holly
Partially because I think its hilarious
random light
What builds do you guys use Thanatos trinket for? I think the only thing I take it on is Guan Yu spear because honestly I feel like you can build whatever you want on Guan Yu and as long as you have the Rapid Spin and big spin hammers you just stomp
merry chasm
only one i use
hard holly
Partially because its good
shy nexus
On paper seems really good-
main citrus
Well, the butterfly achiev is one of the hardest to get, so yeah, guess it's not as good as Lambent Plume.
shy nexus
In practice not really.
unkempt pagoda
i mainly just use battie
dry ember
Same
main citrus
Man, in my spear run I could have gotten that Lambent achiev super easy, the way I was speeding through the areas.
dry ember
Actually equal Battie and Bouldy
random light
I got the Thanatos achievement off a spear run
hard holly
So its a hard to maintain keepsake
random light
Still yet to do Lambent achievement
hard holly
That also prevents the use of other keepsakes
For a damageboost that is kinda irrelevant
shy nexus
Also Athena dash still a mad crutch.
unkempt pagoda
i tried companion rib for a little bit, and while the support was nice, it just doesn't stack up to taking out a miniboss's armor in 2 seconds
shy nexus
Gotta' love Athena dash.
main citrus
Athena dash is soooooo good.
random light
Athena dash is like a staple for me lol
hard holly
I only use Skelly on the final boss
main citrus
YOu know, every weapon has a dash that works well with it. Athena works with anything.
unkempt pagoda
rib is nice for high heat, when regular rooms can be just as challenging if not harder than bosses
shy nexus
Having basically extra i-frames is ridiculous.
random light
I think the only time I preferred not Athena on dash was Shield for Dash Strike boost
main citrus
One day I wanna do a run with ALL Blade Rift boons. And the Ares/Artemis duo to boot.
shy nexus
But then again I'm warming up to Artemis Dash
random light
Also I would be much more frustrated in Elysium without Athena dash because the Flame Wheels are my most hated enemies easily
unkempt pagoda
hunting blades is still the best cast build in the game
main citrus
Artemis dash is surprisingly nice with ||Gilgabro||
unkempt pagoda
no thinking or skill required
shy nexus
^
hallow edge
Athenas dash 👌
shy nexus
Artemis dash + Sword double attack on dash-
random light
My favorite cast is the Demeter/Poseidon duo but admittedly I haven’t gotten to try the Hunting Blades
shy nexus
It melts.
main citrus
Hidden Glove aspect makes Flame Wheels a triviality.
shy nexus
^
unkempt pagoda
blizzard shot or full wine builds are a close second
hard holly
Blade rift builds are nice
Also eh, Artemis dash isnt good on the hidden fist aspect
The dash-attack has lower damage
shy nexus
The thing that makes all my builds work is just priviliged status.
unkempt pagoda
hunting blades is absolutely amazing on its own, but what it has over the others is easy access to fully loaded and pressure points
main citrus
Spear Flurry JAb + Artemis with the god gauge boost via crits nets so many aids you can just forget life.
random light
I think one of my most fun builds was Chiron with Poseidon special and the Poseidon/Zeus Duo
random light
Artemis has excellent boons
main citrus
Support Fire was also a thing. If you see my build a few posts above, you'll see how insane my levels of speed killing were lol
Artemis is waifu for a reason.
hard holly
I still dont like that fully loaded is Artemis' legendary
shy nexus
Artemis imo arguably the "best" for overall boons. You can't really go wrong with Artemis ever.
hard holly
It doesnt feel very legendary
random light
Big facts
There’s never a build where something like Support Fire or Pressure Points is bad
unkempt pagoda
it's pretty legendary for cast builds, which a good part of artemis's kit supplies
random light
Crit squaaaaad
shy nexus
Having Artemis legendary + Dio/Zeus duo boon..
Can get a bit silly.
Like, really silly.
random light
Nemesis Stygius with crazy amounts of crit is big fun
Hack n slash mode
I mean the whole game is somewhat hack n slash but more so with crit
main citrus
Artemis is good, but not all boons work with all weapons.
hard holly
Which isnt too surprisingb ecause it used to be a basic boon
main citrus
Like, Support Fire is great, but for fast hitting weapons.
random light
Yoooo that’s nuts
covert hatch
So Chiron bow
hallow edge
not reached that level of efficiency yet
covert hatch
Dio or Demeter on the special?
random light
That Nemesis clip is crazy
main citrus
What the-
HOW
random light
So Chiron bow
@covert hatch personally I prefer something like Zeus or Poseidon on Chiron special but I would assume Aphrodite is a strong choice
hallow edge
SPEED R U N
main citrus
Some people are too insane, Jesus.
shy nexus
That was the FAST
random light
XDDDD
robust shale
what is the best hidden aspect, relative to all other aspect of that weapon?
main citrus
How the hecc was he doing thousands per hit? lol
main citrus
Pretty sure it's a matter of preference, but overall I would say Guan Yu has the edge on spears
untold vortex
would you say it's on the cutting edge 
main citrus
Although I am an Achilles fan :p
unkempt pagoda
eh
random light
Guan Yu definitely my favorite spear
unkempt pagoda
gy is fine, i find hades spear to give better results
random light
I’m a sucker for Aspect of Rama but that’s just heavy personal bias lol
unkempt pagoda
plus it's more fun
hard holly
Actually, tough question
main citrus
Guan Yu absolutely need the "faster spin charge" upgrade tho.
shy nexus
Hades spear for me.
random light
Oh yeah Guan Yu needs that hammer upgrade but like that + the big spin upgrade and you demolish no matter what
hard holly
It might be the new fist one
main citrus
Rama is super fun, but does it get the upgrade for autofire replacing the charge?
shy nexus
Doing increased % damage is just crazy.
hard holly
But most of them are not the best aspect on their weapon
unkempt pagoda
all guan yu needs is charged skewer and artemis special
random light
I think Rama gets a different pool
hard holly
Flurry Shot you mean?
unkempt pagoda
doesn't need anything else
main citrus
Bleh, I like the fast shots. I am a Hera Bow fan :p
random light
Like how Chiron doesn’t get the special arrow quantity upgrade which I’m totally not bitter about I swear guys :^)
shy nexus
But out of the best hidden aspect? Unpopular opinion, but I will say Lucifer.
unkempt pagoda
relentless? chiron gets it
kind cloud
How the hecc was he doing thousands per hit? lol
@main citrus
My guess...lots of chaos boons plus the well of charon attack buffs.
main citrus
Lucifer? I thought Hestia was the champ
random light
I actually stick to Zag for Rail because I tend to go on hit stuff like hangover or lightning but that’s a me thing
shy nexus
Lucifer can really, really melt stuff really fast.
kind cloud
Lucifer? I thought Hestia was the champ
@main citrus
Depends. zag aspect mercifu doom is pretty unreal.
main citrus
@kind cloud Probably the special Patroclus jerky too?
kind cloud
@kind cloud Probably the special Patroclus jerky too?
@main citrus
Yep. That too.
main citrus
The charge is soooooo slow xx
unkempt pagoda
I actually stick to Zag for Rail because I tend to go on hit stuff like hangover or lightning but that’s a me thing
hangover is best on eris, and lightning is pretty close too
random light
It would be kind of crazy if Rama could do Flurry Shot
hard holly
Hestia is better than Lucifer
main citrus
That's my only gripe with Rama.
kind cloud
And given what happens on the dash strike on theseus, vorime probably had double edged hammer upgrade for nemesis too.
hard holly
Lucifer is good, but not as good
dry ember
@kind cloud Zag rail Merciful End doesn't work as consistently
shy nexus
Like- increased ramp speed from Deadalus, priviliged status, Ares/Aprhodite/Artemis-
dry ember
With the new ME
hard holly
Might be Beowulf actually
shy nexus
And you get constant melting.
hard holly
Since its just kinda shield+
dry ember
Unless we are talking some other build?
random light
You know I forgot they did Aspect of Beowulf I should look at it
main citrus
Otherwise I love the scaling. The pain sharing in Styx is so great, since the close quarters makes you hit everyone affected in a single shot. You get basically a free hit.
unkempt pagoda
beowulf's only purpose is charged flight memery
main citrus
Aspect fo Beowulf is nice, but Chaos Shield exists :p
low grove
Which boon should I go for the sword, specifically Nemesis. I cannot for the life of me escape with the sword
random light
Artemis
hard holly
Im not a fan of Beowulf, but it does just feel like an upgrade
kind cloud
@kind cloud Zag rail Merciful End doesn't work as consistently
@dry ember
Honestly, i don't understand how merciful doom really works or why it's so unreal amazing.
About an hour ago, I did a zeus shield merciful doom run and i really couldn't tell what was triggering it and why the damage was stacking so quickly.
main citrus
At least Beowulf gets the Bull Rush shot upgrade.
dry ember
RIP Charged Flight 2020 - 2020
hard holly
Chaos I didnt like before, and if I understand how it works now
unkempt pagoda
with chaos shield changed, the last remaining bits of actual fun gameplay vanished
random light
Nemesis is begging for anything you can do for crit upgrades
hard holly
Im pretty sure its no longer good
random light
And it’s got built in crit
unkempt pagoda
therefore, rip shield never playing you again
main citrus
Speedrunners swear to Poseidon Aspect
random light
Poseidon with cast builds is very powerful
hard holly
Chaos shield was the only version of shield that wasnt fun tbqh
random light
But it depends on what you roll and sometimes RNG does not smile on you
unkempt pagoda
poseidon is specifically great with cast builds that lodge in foes, because of exit wounds
kind cloud
RIP Charged Flight 2020 - 2020
@dry ember
I'm lowkey more upset about charged flight getting nerfed than chaos shield getting nerfed (back to original chaos shield)
main citrus
Exit Wounds build is something you would never think of otherwise lol
hard holly
Although them removing the combination of sudden/Minotaur rush sucks
random light
Chaos Shield is the only one I was able to win with, but I think Zeus Shield is most fun imo
main citrus
I unironically like Zeus Shield
random light
I do too
unkempt pagoda
it's more like original chaos shield, but not actually it
random light
It’s just not great in terms of gameplay comparatively
main citrus
It's a meme but it's so cool. I actually like to run it with a Dio build.
unkempt pagoda
fun fact: when chaos shield was changed to be a radial throw in all directions, people called that a nerf too
hard holly
I never got why they removed the possibility of that combination
random light
Shield as a whole kind of suffers compared to all the other weapon types, but I’m not exactly a master Hades player so that could be my own inability
covert hatch
Hmm
main citrus
Shield is easy mode.
hard holly
Thankfully making the combination possible again is easy and quick
kind cloud
Chaos Shield is the only one I was able to win with, but I think Zeus Shield is most fun imo
@random light
I love explosive shield on zeus shield. with explosive shield, I use the special as a kind of yo-yo with ares attack, athena special + dash, and merciful doom. i think that combo is viable for 50+ heat.
covert hatch
Do I avoid Dio special in hopes of seeing Demeter, or just settle
hard holly
So I can look forward to getting the Deja Vu build again
covert hatch
I've got Ares attack
random light
What are your other Aphro options rn
covert hatch
(On Chiron bow, for reference)
unkempt pagoda
you could get curse of nausea, so go for it
main citrus
Somehow I found a safe spot against Hades' doom lasers and was just BUll Shooting him lol
Aphro goes well with hard hitting weapons.
unkempt pagoda
try to get an artemis boon later so you can fish for splitting headache
covert hatch
Gotcha
hallow edge
Shield (Didn't unlock any aspects) is like... a hard counter on most bosses, so yeah I'd say it's easy mode
random light
50+ heat
Boss I’m still vibing at like 9-10 heat I’m not there yet lmao
unkempt pagoda
shield is widely regarded as the best weapon, but is it fun? no lol
main citrus
I came back after skipping the Charon update, and somehow found myself struggling a ton.
prisma raven
i think it's fun
main citrus
Pretty sure they buffed Forced Overtime which was my go to heat builder lol
boreal bobcat
Does Mirage Shot work when you're loading your casts, like with the Naegling board?
random light
I mean in a vacuum I would say it’s fun, but when bow, sword, rail, fists and spear exist, Shield definitely ranks lowest in the fun scale for me
main citrus
I know the Demeter buff that creates a chill wave works on load.
dry ember
@unkempt pagoda would you believe me that I have never tried Charged Flight?
unkempt pagoda
no, but continue
main citrus
It's stupidly fun with Chaos Shield lol
dry ember
I have the Shield prophecy not done, missing Charged Flight
prisma raven
what don't you like about aegis, @unkempt pagoda? i'm curious bc i think it's very fun and i want to know your pov
unkempt pagoda
charged flight memery was how i got my third skelly statue
dry ember
Never knew it in its glory
boreal bobcat
I am liking Naegling board once it's fully charged. Probably isn't very, yknow, good, but it's fun to clear a room in one bullrush in Tartarus
main citrus
My last weapon prophecy was fist >>
dry ember
Guess I'll never will.
shy nexus
Shield is absurdly good-
main citrus
I only have two more prophecies to complete. Defeat Charon twice in a row, and beat Hades with Chaos Egg lol
shy nexus
But I personally don't find it as good as sword, fists or spear.
Well, "good" as in fun.
random light
The one boon I wish I got more often is Urge to Kill but honestly I rarely find Ares to begin with
shy nexus
Shield is reliable and always works good.
main citrus
Just force Ares.
hallow edge
yeah fun would be the right word for it heh
main citrus
Force him on Tartarus and then the rest is the rest.
main citrus
Urge to Kill is the global damage buff, right?
unkempt pagoda
what don't you like about aegis, @unkempt pagoda? i'm curious bc i think it's very fun and i want to know your pov
never had to put into words before, just a general vibe, but it just doesn't feel good. the attack is kinda boring, the special feels weak most of the time unless you're using beowulf (or old chaos but RIP), and the part of the weapon i like the most (bull rush) is never expanded upon in any of the aspects
random light
Yep flat percent to all damage
hallow edge
UtK is so op
shy nexus
I on the other hand get UtK constantly..
main citrus
I get it frequently, but I never grab it lol
rigid urchin
it's not a global damage buff. As it says, it boosts attack, special, and cast damage
main citrus
Ares for me is either a blade or revenge build.
random light
Urge to Kill and Pressure Points are probably my two favorite non Duo/Legendary boons
unkempt pagoda
at least, expanded upon in a satisfying way
hard holly
Yeah I really do wish we had a bullrush aspect
shy nexus
For me, it's Athena Dash and Support Fire.
hard holly
Instead of 2 aspects interacting with special, by far the least interesting part of the weapon
random light
Athena Dash comes third for me, Support Fire fourth
shy nexus
Those two are the ones I always love to get.
main citrus
Pressure Points is great.
unkempt pagoda
beowulf is okay, but it doesn't really do it for me since it literally is just bigger + big cast
main citrus
Getting Support Fire with infinite ammo rail is always a treat
shy nexus
But UtK and Pressure points are just as good.
hard holly
On a sidenote, Beowulf gains no benefit from the cast mirror upgrades, right?
unkempt pagoda
(which is weird! because i really love hera! but ig it's because bow appeals to my senses more)
shy nexus
But Athena dash is just BiS (in my humble.opinion.)
prisma raven
aegis excels in crowd control because the shield bounces between enemies and chaos has a wide aoe so if you're looking for pure dps you're probably not going to find it
main citrus
Athena Dash is the most used boon of probably 95% of the players.
prisma raven
i never liked the bull rush because i don't like having to commit to dashing when i use it, which is also why i love the charge shot hammer upgrade
dry ember
I really think fists has the best crowd control. Can't beat perma stun
main citrus
Artemis Dash is situational.
hard holly
Bull rush is fun and very good
shy nexus
Urge to Kill epic version is what, 30% increased damage on Attack,Special and cast?
unkempt pagoda
shield's first oof was the change to dashing wallop and then it was downhill from there
rare kayak
oh man deflect dash
main citrus
I actually like it when I do a upgraded weapon with buffed dash attack.
I did it once with the multi-hit dasn attack spear upgrade, it was so silly lol
prisma raven
yeah the zag shield special isn't very good compared to other specials
unkempt pagoda
bull rush is fun because of the highly mobile aspect of it, and i think it's a shame none of the aspects give it any support
hard holly
Yup, agreed
hallow edge
I love fists, and it's good for crowd control but it's more risky than shield crowd control
prisma raven
going back to zag after zeus it felt off
hard holly
You have some nice hammers
hallow edge
which I like just fine
rare kayak
i actually like pulverising blow on shield
hard holly
And sudden rush + minotaur rush is amazing fun (once you enable it again)
main citrus
I like the BUll Rush shot more than the regular one. I like to stand ground.
hard holly
But damn
hallow edge
but like it's different
hard holly
I wish we had an aspect for it
rare kayak
the no knockback helps me to set up zeus shield
main citrus
Beowulf is a quasi-Bull Rush Aspect, but yeah... Weakest hidden aspect of all.
prisma raven
and now your plume is at +20%
main citrus
I took Beowulf to Hades once, and then was "Never again, back to Chaos Shield"
hard holly
It barely changes the bullrush is the thing
It makes it slower and does the cast thing
And thats about it
The % increase it gives isnt even multiplicative for some reason
main citrus
I wish it could make the Rush a multi-hit thing that drags the enemy around.
unkempt pagoda
rip old dashing wallop, chaos shield (twice), old charged throw, and old explosive return, y'all were the realest
main citrus
Would work super fine with Poseidon.
unkempt pagoda
and assault flight too, even though you were op
main citrus
hugs his Charged Shot upgrade
prisma raven
poseidon's attack boon does do that to the bull rush doesn't it
main citrus
You're the best, buddy
unkempt pagoda
sgg: hold it while it lasts 
prisma raven
charged shot is my favorite shield upgrade by far
main citrus
I rarely run Poseidon these days. I only do it for Sea Storm runs.
prisma raven
if it did it by default then it would incentivize using it more i think
unkempt pagoda
blizzard shot is one of the best cast builds in the game
unkempt pagoda
nah, i prefer bull rush's ability to get out of dodge quick and reposition itself
if i wanted to bully louts into a wall, i'd use dash attack
hard holly
Ok, quickly changed the bonus from Beowulf to be multiplicative
Too many things that shouldnt be additive are
prisma raven
aegis's dash attack doesn't have knockback on it i thought
i thought only the base attack does
unkempt pagoda
correction, i'd use zag shield
prisma raven
i've just been talking about shields in general
slate tulip
am I just bad at this game or does the left pillar on the [Redacted] fight have really inconsistent collision for the ||beam attack for phase two||
my last 3 attempts I've been hit again and again whenever I try to take cover back there
hard holly
It does
acoustic venture
thoughts on frost strike?
random light
You gotta be like riiiight behind it otherwise the attack kinda cheats
The pillar can be inconsistent
I’ve gotten japed a number of times by it
hallow edge
hm... I've faced [Redacted] just 2 times but yeah, it always felt like the pillar on the left was less safe than the one on the right
Frost strike is best strike
prisma raven
why is that
hallow edge
I was mostly joking, but I love this perticular dem's boon bc its stacks and you can have better crowd control with it
I also think there's another boon you can have with Dem which makes it super worth it (with 10 stacks from frost strike = explosion)
main citrus
Frost Strike is good for fast weapons. Rail and Spear work super well with it.
main citrus
Especially Rail. I miss the infinite ammo upgrade on it tho >>
Delta Chamber is an acceptable substitute tho. Love it, pretty sure I got my fastest run with it.
hallow edge
but then again I may be biased
main citrus
IN fact, there are 4 boons that work with faster weapons, and 4 with slower ones.
rigid urchin
well, if you've unlocked the hidden aspect of exagryph...||there's still an infinite ammo upgrade for that||
main citrus
Rail with Poseidon is disgusting and I love it.
People seem to prefer keeping the ramp up in damage tho.
barren nimbus
does it matter what order you pick the gods on a trial room? or do you get the same offerings regardless of the order
rigid urchin
whichever god you pick, the other one gets angery and sends a bunch of goons to beat you up. If you live through it, you get that angery god's boon too
main citrus
You also can't get duos from it.
onyx parcel
HOW DO I GET DAMAGE AS SPEAR???
Almost killed redacted
3 DD used and 20 dodge chance
Still died
Cause my damage was way too low
main citrus
Use Artemis/Aphrodite/Athena
rigid urchin
recommended is to use the aspect of hades for varatha
unkempt pagoda
use serrated point
onyx parcel
I had Artemis and Athena
rigid urchin
then choose an attack boon that gives you a percentage damage buff
onyx parcel
My damage was wayyyyy too low
barren nimbus
you cant get duos from trials? that makes sense but i had never thought of it
main citrus
That, or just get Flurry Jab and forget spins exist :v
kind cloud
Rail with Poseidon is disgusting and I love it.
@main citrus
which aspect?
main citrus
Luci
unkempt pagoda
use serrated point with hunter dash and either deadly strike or divine strike
rigid urchin
if you have boiling blood from your mirror, you may want to consider something that sticks to enemies for that 50% damage buff
main citrus
https://imgur.com/a/wE8JCce This was my last Spear run.
kind cloud
Luci
@main citrus
I haven't tried that combo yet. Will give it a shot. I imagine that becomes crazy with the newly buffed razor shoals.
onyx parcel
True @rigid urchin
I’m sad tho
First time using the spear seriously and got so close
boreal bobcat
Does Rare Crop work on boons you haven't picked up yet? Or just what you have at the time?
main citrus
Support Fire if you go for no spin, so you can rack up extra damage.
prisma raven
it doesn't say this, but rare crop picks 3 random boons you already have and cultivates only them
orchid wasp
athena dash+ruthless reflex (mirror dodge upgrade)+20% dodge lambent ploom+3 dodge from from hermes.... I didn't take damage in the entire thesius fight until the gods started helping... and I wasn't even trying to dodge
main citrus
Rare Crops depends on its own rarity for the number of boons it picks.
quaint gale
up to 3 boons, yeah
quaint gale
heroic might technically be 4? never seen it though
hallow edge
oh that makes sense!
onyx parcel
My damage is ass
prisma raven
most casts do that don't they
main citrus
Anything that's not Dio/Demeter/Ares.
hallow edge
I was considering taking it (Rare crop)
onyx parcel
I’ll keep that in mind
prisma raven
zeus sticks but it only sticks into the last enemy it hits so you can't really control where it lands
quaint gale
if you don't have a lot of epic boons it's great
main citrus
Dio creates the fog, Ares the blade and Demeter the crystal. Ther others all stick.
quaint gale
zeus likes to bounce off single enemies as well 
hazy slate
besides zeus boon, which boons should i be looking for when im using the gun
main citrus
Demeter/Dio
hard holly
I think rare crops cant be heroic
rigid urchin
personally, athena cast is best, since it allows you to stay at a distance and it can deflect ||Hades'|| own casts
plus it deals hella damage
quaint gale
that'd make sense
main citrus
Yeah, only the attack/special/cast/dash/aid boons can be Heroic, they're the only ones that every god has.
onyx parcel
I’ve never lacked damage with fist or shield before
This spear is something else I stg
quaint gale
if you go for Demeter you want to try to find the Arctic Blast boon in tandem
main citrus
Spear is hard to master, and you can go two ways. You either focus on spins or stabs.
I like stabs, myself. People seem to prefer spins tho :p
rigid urchin
if you roll with the aspect of hades, you land one spin attack and your attack and specials get boosted by 150% on your targets
hazy slate
I like the spins
rigid urchin
so there's your damage
lilac geode
spear with the fast strikes that replace spin is pretty good
main citrus
If you hate spin they you should always go for Flurry Jab upgrade. You lose spin but get faster, hold to attack stabs.
hallow edge
I like the stabs better with Spear
onyx parcel
Maybe I just had bad RNG last run
rigid urchin
start learning to do spin attacks, otherwise you'll have a hard time when you run into rooms with a million small fry
main citrus
Flurry Jab is my favorite Spear Upgrade, and if you get Triple Jab too you just got a massive AoE
RNG is evil, yes :p
If you somehow wanna try spins, then the must get upgrade is the faster spin charge one. Can't run Spin without it.
hard holly
You can also focus on throwing spears with spear
main citrus
Guan Yu trades health for a consistent heal
lilac geode
i'd take that trade any day, the thing is your attack speed is horrible lol
main citrus
With all weapons you can only heal with limited sources. With Guan Yu you can heal while attacking.
But it's a mandatory spin spear. If you don't get the faster spin charge, you'll struggle a ton.
rigid urchin
reminder to spoiler tag hidden weapon aspects since they are considered spoilers
main citrus
Also you can't just bumrush as easily as the other spears. You take a more shield-like approach, since total health is lower.
quaint gale
so your only option if you don't want spin is, what...achilles?
quaint gale
that makes sense
main citrus
I just use it because of the situational throw, but I am a stabber through and through.
quaint gale
while you could do it on Zag it wouldn't be benefitted by the aspect
onyx parcel
Stab is just so versatile and mobile
main citrus
You can only get Flurry Jab with Zag and Achilles too, since the other two aspects depend on spin to use their abilities.
onyx parcel
Stabbing all the way
hallow edge
S T A B S T A B S T A B
manic ruin
Is stygian soul or infernal soul better for cast builds?
hallow edge
oh mood
onyx parcel
Infernal will get u higher dps probably
upper salmon
i like stygian for trippy shot builds
upper salmon
infernal for everythign else
hard holly
Zag and Hades are both good for spear special builds
frank tide
guan yu also does a lot more damage than the other spears
hard holly
You do technically use the spin on Hades, but you can probably get away with not building for it
Hm
What if Hades' damage amp was multiplicative
onyx parcel
Too OP
main citrus
Then it would be borked lol
quaint gale
what if you just had a literal nuclear bomb
unkempt pagoda
you don't need to build hades spin at all lol
hard holly
No no, hear me out
unkempt pagoda
it's plenty big enough
main citrus
Man, now that I think, I was probably getting a 50% damage reduction while on low health with my Aphrodite/Dio combo.
boreal bobcat
If you keep the same god keepsake between levels, do you get another 'gotta-be-X-god' boon? I cannot get these duo boons to save my life
upper salmon
no
frank tide
nope
main citrus
The perfect facetank duo
frank tide
it's a thing that should be changed IMO
unkempt pagoda
but hades spear is great in that it's also the best at pure spin builds too
main citrus
I would like it to be changed too, Demeter takes a lot to get the Legendary
quaint gale
sure, but multiplicative will always be better than additive
hard holly
On special its a big damage number, but it requires a spin first and only then does it give damage amp, while Zagreus gives immediate damage amp and speed amp which is multiplicative
Granted, I think the number would have to change
boreal bobcat
I've had the prereqs for Fully Loaded met in at least 10 runs, and yet
unkempt pagoda
this is where fated authority comes in 😛
hard holly
Because 150% multiplicative is a wee bit much
quaint gale
yes
hard holly
But I think itd make Hades more interesting
main citrus
And sometimes, even when you force Demeter on Tartarus, the game just refuses to give you more than 2 boons.
hard holly
Maybe I just long for the old days when everything was multiplicative
main citrus
That's why I don't see myself running Dem a lot.
Nowadays I force Athena/Artemis and life is good.
quaint gale
it was a good time back then
quaint gale
remember trying to convince everyone bow was good because of that dash?
hard holly
And you could get guaranteed crit spins by doing the dash spin
hallow edge
hm that does sound good
hallow edge
Wish I could have known those days x')
hard holly
Bow was insane, but so was spear
Like, spear spin could get easy 1500 crits with the dash
quaint gale
yeah, true
hard holly
You were able to three-shot the hydra
main citrus
Jesus
hard holly
I think bow could oneshot it though
quaint gale
artemis was just supremely broken
boreal bobcat
What the hell is up with the satyr miniboss, stopped for a second to bullrush and ate 10 poison javelins to the face through block
boreal bobcat
Instantly melted off a defiance
hard holly
Yuuup
It was still good afterwards thanks to bullrush
Sword was the only one that was kinda eh
Unless you got worldsplitter
Worldsplitter was another one of those "three-shot the hydra" things
Actually was worldsplitter around back then?
Or was it a similar hammer
quaint gale
yeah, sword was in the dog house back then
I...think so?
also the special had a terrible recovery time
quaint gale
the weird floating T pose?
quaint gale
it was...definitely unique
hard holly
Just Zagreus T-posing on the enemies so hard they took physical damage
quaint gale
maybe initially, but I got no problems with it now
...certainly not gonna take snap nova though
that's too much momentum
main citrus
I don't use the special a lot with the Sword, I feel >>
I always end up taking the upgrade that makes the dash attack hit twice.
main citrus
I only use special frequently with Shield and Fists.
dry ember
7% misinput -.-
main citrus
And with fists it depends. With ||Gilgabro|| I don't use it, but with Talos it's all the time.
God, I love Talos aspect.
Pretty sure Demeter is more popular, but I am a Talos main.
quaint gale
I like to do something like dio attack and aphro special and weave dash attacks with specials
with sword
hard holly
I tend to go for specials on half of the weapons
On the other half I tend to avoid it or use it in specific scenarios
Like Rail, where I use it when reloading, or if I have Cluster bomb + Rocket
Because that combination is hilariously broken
quaint gale
yeah, I almost never jive with the default bow special or spear special
dry ember
yknow, the name attack and special really grind my gears. it implies that one is "more important" or "more valuable" than other
rose iron
I'm seriously convinced there's a bug somewhere in my build because it should not be THIS good I think
https://clips.twitch.tv/LazyVainGoshawkDatSheffy Beowulf + Dionysus Cast = This.
hearty elbow
Seems fine.
rose iron
It's SUPPOSED to hit that hard? XD
I'm getting like 1000+ per cast hit.
No other cast has come close to this amount of damage.
on Beowulf, I mean.
hearty elbow
Pre-nerf Charged Flight Beowulf hit for 750 damage with just Heartbreak Flourish
dry ember
basically high base damage + charged hammer = good time
rose iron
If it's supposed to be that good, AWESOME. 😄
I just don't want to end up relying on something that might get nerfed.
dry ember
see also GY + Charged Skewer
rose iron
Oh I've had that, it's GOOD.
hard holly
Huh
What if
Explosive and Piercing Fire could be combined
And you fired it into a group
dry ember
And you fired it into a group
I get pretty close to that with Demeter fists + Explosive Upper
a group of enemies, even armored ones are just gone
hearty elbow
It makes my heart soar to see the sentence "Rama can match that DPS easily" in this discord. Praise SGG
unkempt pagoda
demfists + explosive upper ❤️
rose iron
Honestly what I want to know is: Can you get Ricochet on Gyan Yu?
main citrus
I need to try Breaching Cross with ||Gilgabro|| and some extra dashes. Melt armor.
hearty elbow
You wouldn't want ricochet on GY
hearty elbow
Because then you would lose the absurd pierce
hard holly
It was just hella risky
mighty ermine
you mean chain skewer? no
dry ember
chain skewer on achilles = motion sickness
mighty ermine
pinball zag
hearty elbow
They nerfed it. By removing it from the game
unkempt pagoda
guan yu's gigantic hitbox would mean the skewer would kill any potential chaining targets anyways 😛
dry ember
guan yu's gigantic hitbox
somehow it's non existent at point blank range
main citrus
Chain Fireworks, you mean lol
unkempt pagoda
why r u at point blank range with gy skewer
dry ember
FO2 Speedsters
hearty elbow
Sending a message
unkempt pagoda
dry ember
Although I play bow point blank so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
unkempt pagoda
same
main citrus
Hey, I run Forced Overtime since forever. Since enemies are going to get harder, might as well get used to their speed from the start.
dry ember
good strat
unkempt pagoda
if i'm gonna be using twin shot anyways i might as well be in melee
main citrus
And yet, I see people use Forced Overtime as one of the last heat sources they add.
dry ember
yee, or triple shot for that greedy triple damage
unkempt pagoda
FO should be one of the first imo
dry ember
you spell TD wrong
unkempt pagoda
but tbf, fo adds 3 heat at a time, so not great if you're going heat by heat for bounties
mighty ermine
yeah FO is one that i keep on at pretty much all times
main citrus
I like to add things I wanna get used to. I first added speed, then HP. Next is probably going to be ramp up prices.
quaint gale
FO scares me
unkempt pagoda
TD1 and 2 are laughably easy now
quaint gale
though it does make enemies run to you faster...
dry ember
pick FO2, pick demeter chill, now we are at no FO taps head
unkempt pagoda
and then td3 comes in and makes you time out by hades first phase cause you got 3-sack'd
main citrus
Ah yes, I used other things first. I probably added HP 1, 2, then FO1, HP agaiN until FO2, then re-added the HP a last time and will keep it.
unkempt pagoda
pick FO2, pick demeter chill, now we are at no FO taps head
add abyssal blood too
hard holly
If youre not right behind them
quaint gale
yeah can't hit all 3 triple explosive shots
unkempt pagoda
...hera?
main citrus
Hera Bow, load cast on shot
kind cloud
i think we should have an excel sheet of all the great combos. i started one and then got lazy about completing (partially because SGG was doing patches).
unkempt pagoda
but why hera lol
main citrus
Get Sea Storm, and the boon that adds a second knock to the Poseidon boons. Load three casts, just let enemies get knocked over forever.
quaint gale
get a legendary boon? that's not gonna happen very often
unkempt pagoda
i think we should have an excel sheet of all the great combos. i started one and then got lazy about completing (partially because SGG was doing patches).
i was thinking of making a write-up of all 3 god combos and how good of a build core they are, but then i realized that's a lot of work
main citrus
That, or Sea Storm with Luci Rail.
kind cloud
way back before my macbook died (lol, damn u apple!) i had a similar spreadsheet of about 35% of all the combos possible on transistor.
...aaaaaand then i got lazy. lol
unkempt pagoda
when the answer is just gonna be: play artemis, aphrodite, athena
livid comet
^
quaint gale
the Three A-migas
livid comet
my AAA build
kind cloud
*amigas (female)
livid comet
it's called a Triple-A run
quaint gale
oops
livid comet
til
dry ember
we need Hades meme vids
hard holly
Well, Zeus and Artemis if youre on Flurry builds
kind cloud
i was thinking of making a write-up of all 3 god combos and how good of a build core they are, but then i realized that's a lot of work
@unkempt pagoda
yeah, props to sgg for creating this game with an absurd amount of combos.
at least transistor was static (options were fixed).
hades is dynamic because of rng.
main citrus
I still remember the run where I got three duos
Was so satisfying lol
https://imgur.com/a/G0Gg9Sa Just stun everything.
hard holly
Thing is the "combos" in this game dont change as much as Transistor
unkempt pagoda
one of the best build cores that isn't AAA is dio/ares/artemis/aphrodite, getting all 3 duos for hangover makes it extremely good at damage (with 8 stacks from low tolerance and curse of nausea). with heart rend, your splitting headache crits suddenly do 4.5x more, and to top it all off, you can get hunting blades. best with eris rail
kind cloud
btw...i have a question about new keepsake (which gives +1 pom randomly every 4 encounters when maxed)
if a player gets sweet nectar (aphrodite/poseidon duo boon which adds additional +1 on top to all poms), does the duo boon increase efficacy of new keepsake as well by additional +1?
quaint gale
(spoiler that name)
main citrus
Should put that name on spoilers, mate lol
kind cloud
oh my bad. give me a sec to edit...
dry ember
Triple A aside, another trio I like is the debauchery trio: Violence (Ares) Alcohol (Dionysus) Love (Aphrodite). The duo combo works well together.
kind cloud
one of the best build cores
that isn't AAAis dio/ares/artemis/aphrodite, getting all 3 duos for hangover makes it extremely good at damage (with 8 stacks from low tolerance and curse of nausea). with heart rend, your splitting headache crits suddenly do 4.5x more, and to top it all off, you can get hunting blades. best with eris rail
@unkempt pagoda
yep. so good.
main citrus
Good question. Haven't reached the point to get that boon yet, since I started 1.0 with Heat 8 already and things are hard xx
dry ember
Curse of Longing
Curse of Nausea
Low Tolerance
unkempt pagoda
aphrodite isn't technically needed, but she makes it very, very good with 8 stacks
main citrus
Zeus/Ares/Athena for revenge build is super sweet 👌
Wonder if you can manage to get all 5 revenge boons in a single run. That would be hilarious.
With the Zeus/Ares duo to boot.
unkempt pagoda
possible with keepsakes
main citrus
"I'll just hang in here while the gods do my job for me."
dry ember
I should make a guide of those trios
unkempt pagoda
bruh
main citrus
Can you get both Artemis/Ares and Demeter/Ares boons at once?
Chilling Hunting Blades lol
kind cloud
no love for ares-athena-aphro? merciful doom + curse of longing = LULZ
unkempt pagoda
OnyxCicadaToday at 8:41 PM
i was thinking of making a write-up of all 3 god combos and how good of a build core they are, but then i realized that's a lot of work
:V
dry ember
ME + Longing seem anti synergistic,no?
unkempt pagoda
that's like, 56 different combos though
main citrus
Aphrodite/Dio are the facetanking duo. You get so much damage reduction from them.
kind cloud
ME + Longing seem anti synergistic,no?
@dry ember
seems to work really well for me on zeus shield.
that said, this only happens when athena refuses to give me her dash which takes merciful doom to new level. curse of longing is a nice consolation prize and secondary to merciful doom.
attack: ares
special: athena
dash: aphro
main citrus
Different League/Positive Outlook/Wave of Despair/Broken Resolve
Enjoy your 50% damage reduction while at lower health.
dry ember
Have you seen Haelian vs Dad with the Revenge build?
Dad literally hits himself to death.
kind cloud
yeah, one of my favorite runs by any streamer.
kind cloud
Different League/Positive Outlook/Wave of Despair/Broken Resolve
@main citrus
yep...especially fun with excalibur and greater consecration hammer upgrade
main citrus
I did that sans Broken resolve with the Spear. Facetanking was never so satisfying.
dry ember
now, what's a low effort build? where you don't want to play the game but still want to win?
except the revenge one, of course
Hunting Blades comes to mind
main citrus
I had either the damage reduction, or was spamming Athena's Aid at max level with how many strikes I was getting with Flurry Jab + Support Fire
So yeah, Artemis/Athena/Aphrodite/Dio is the ultimate "hecc you damage" build.
Hunting Blades is also let the gods do your job, but you need to cast. With Revenge build you just need to nigerundayo
deft quiver
guys, gonna try to get poseidon legendary boon for the list, any weapon/build coming to mind ? gonna play in heat 5-6 depending on weapon
lunar salmon
Take water dash and you're good to go
main citrus
Poseidon run? Combine with Zeus and abuse knocking.
deft quiver
like might as well try to do a good run while im at it
main citrus
Use the Rail.
acoustic venture
obviously not a Malphon run
atleast with it on strike
youd just be hating yourself
main citrus
Believe me, Poseidon Rail is one of the most hilarious combos ever.
acoustic venture
I think every aspect but || Gilg || is free game here
could try Rama
Still need Dio and Ares legendaries for the list
main citrus
Rama with Poseidon should be interesting. But as always, combine with Zeus for extra intensity.
acoustic venture
I think Sword would be best Ares?
deft quiver
i need poseidon, ares and athena for the list
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Sword? Artemis/Aphrodite
deft quiver
gonna try rama poseidon / zeus i think
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Athena is good with anything.
deft quiver
never really played ares builds
acoustic venture
nothing on par with it
deft quiver
i rinsed athena, artemis, aphrodite
livid comet
ares ath is pretty good
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Really, Athena and Artemis are the best ones for utility. Crits and deflecting are always welcome.
acoustic venture
Ares build and Ares Legendary build can be very diff
lunar salmon
2nd/3rd bow aspect where you load and fire your cast might be fun
deft quiver
alright gonna try to get that poseidon build first lol
livid comet
ideally you want a fast weapon with doom atk and ath dash with merciful end
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Ares goes well with Artemis. But if you need the Doom build instead of the Blade one, then Ares/Zeus/Athena is a good choice.
lunar salmon
load water bombs watch enemies fly all over the screen
acoustic venture
oooo Hera/Blade build could be fun
lunar salmon
or die, whichever is first
acoustic venture
if it applies it properly
yeah Ares having both Doom and Blade builds is interesting
I'm on a Talos run rn with Tidal Flourish
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Only go for Ares on Hera Bow if you plan to get Hunting Blades tho. Otherwise it's kinda bad. Hera benefits from damage on impact, not on a line.
Talos <3
Pull and Push forever
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Sea Storm Talos is a treat.
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Family Fav for sure.
Much eaasier to get multiple gods than to get multiple stats, unless you are running some specific builds.
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I run Priv every single time
deft quiver
lol i got rare tempest strike + rare tempest flourish + epic tidal dash as first choice
acoustic venture
the big unga bunga 40% dps increase is too good
deft quiver
kinda wanna go for the dash
acoustic venture
on Rama? id go dash for safety
deft quiver
yeah
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Get Dash, you need to keep enemies away.
deft quiver
yup