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#h1-builds-and-combat
mystic vale
cunning urchin
The full DOT on a single target is pretty similar to Lady Aphrodite's greater call with a couple levels in it, but the DOT is applied on every enemy in a very wide radius around Zagreus.
Pretty similar at 5 stacks.
mighty ermine
it's just that the damage would definitely be more sustainable than aphrodite greater if you're spacing out lesser calls effectively
especially if you get to run clouded judgment, billowing strength and the like
hazy yacht
the problem is with greater call you're really only likely to use it during bosses
in rooms you'll use normal call
aside from a couple builds
so those really beneficial area of effect properties go to waste
and the stack limit is reached
while it's still going
mystic vale
Hmm. A keepsake to fill call meters...
cunning urchin
Hydra has many targets, Hades has many summons too.
hazy yacht
indeed, I'm not saying it's useless
mystic vale
Ugh. End boss summoned a black butterfly ball last time. It must have had thousands of points of armour.
mighty ermine
sometimes you can pretty much ignore the hades summon and focus him down instead
i've had a similar situation where i just didn't want to deal with the soul catcher
shrewd brook
and then sometimes he summons a bloody chariot
mighty ermine
and it gets destroyed upon phase 2 start
cunning urchin
Greater Call is still better than normal calls on single bosses because it lasts longer. So you get more damage out of it.
mighty ermine
yes, that one definitely forces you to deal haha
hazy yacht
you get more damage out of pacing it yourself with normal call, actually
that was the point I initially made
it's lower maintenance to use greater call but if you time normal call yourself you get far more damage output
mighty ermine
right, greater dio call isn't doing any extra damage on top of or after applying all its stacks
so the extra time present is situational
shrewd brook
sorry
cunning urchin
Ah yeah, you're probably right. Sorry, half asleep lol.
Was just looking at call duration and not debuff duration.
cunning urchin
No rest for the wicked.
mossy breach
Today i learned that you can trigger very fast dooms if you have Merciful end by just attacking (doom) and (athena)dashing away
cunning urchin
That's not gameplay.
mighty ermine
it totally is
really satisfying on the final boss with extra dashes from hermes especially
grave compass
Might try chiron with merciful end if i can at some point - if i can get the extra ares boon where you can stack doom
mystic vale
I hope the CEO of Supergiant Games is Mr. Big McLargeHuge.
dry ember
Floodshot and Hera Bow in Styx
grave compass
Can imagine in can be fun and still useable - attach 7 stacks of doom, divine attack to stay locked on and activate the doom, rinse and repeat
mossy breach
I tried the doom stacking with the rail gun, also had flurry fire... Its not worth it imo
grave compass
Eh worth a try - i want to make sure im using new stuff rather than relying on one build (like seastorm or ice wine)
Although speaking if which i also really want to do sea storm chaos shield š¤£
Waves and lighting everywhere
shrewd brook
does chain shot apply Doom on every bounce or just the last one?
dry ember
Every bounce I think
mystic vale
Ouch. Triple bomb or rocket?
Er.
Doom Flourish and I don't think I can stack Dooms.
pliant palm
https://prnt.sc/shkjwf pretty disappointing build, really expected better damage
rugged estuary
Chiron sea storm is not as insane on damage as it sounds, yeah
pliant palm
:c
rugged estuary
its decent damage you dont have to aim for though, lets you play pretty safe
just stay behind cover and shoot around it
rugged estuary
@mystic vale With doom special, probably rocket
that's my feeling with shield tbh š
I really enjoy gibbing stuff with hera bow, even if poseidon sword is ultimately better
pliant palm
Shield is safe AND does great damage for me x)
mighty ermine
i'd say chiron is probably the most "boring" of the bow aspects though. it's based around a setup that's not very dynamic at all
not to say people can't enjoy it but
i personally have more fun with the others
rugged estuary
Yeah, that's probably true.
pliant palm
I guess Hera is more fun yeah
But tbh I just don't like the bow feeling
Just like spear, ik the weapon can be good, it's just not very fun to play for me
mighty ermine
bow didn't click for me until i got used to chaining dash attack power shots
that's mainly how i play it
mystic vale
Yeah I took the rocket. Now I have all the pre-reqs and a rarity boosting effect (including the mirror one) if Fully Loaded would kindly show and fulfill my prophecy for Artemis finally.
Huh. True Shot seems to ignore shields. Theseus, I'm comin' for ya.
proven robin
Doom + Divine Dash is excellent.
Especially with how I use the Fists (though inflicting Doom isn't my ideal way, it still worked with my gameplan).
mystic vale
191 life, no heals. I should be able to end boss, yeah?
(Fully loaded DID show...)
So now I have 4 regenerating casts.
Ah, well. I got Fated Keys out of it.
proven robin
::shrugs!:: In time.
mystic vale
And one ability left on 5 of 6 weapons.
Still need bow/spear/sword wins on 0 heat. Got 3/4ths of the way with Exagryph with Jury Summons.
west totem
I feel like the game gets easier once youve beaten it once tho
mystic vale
Ehhhhhhh. Sort of? I mean, part of what makes it easier is getting all the bounties again so you can blood up all your weapons and have Aspects and such.
But I'm not deep enough in to really do that. I have 1 point of Hera on my bow, and 2 bloods short of maxing Chaos on Shield.
mystic vale
All my other weapons are as crap as when I got them. :p
west totem
maybe its ultra instinct skill
mystic vale
I mean I know more about boss patterns and such, but I'm still losing more runs than winning.
proven robin
Hey, same here.
You'll be able to develop a game plan for each weapon.
I mean, I still have to do that with the sword, but I've got pretty much all the others worked out.
mystic vale
Maybe. I don't think I'll be able to do sword without some kind of aspect.
proven robin
Yeah, I'll get back with anything I discover.
mystic vale
'Cause my last sword run gave me every boon and buff I could have wanted and I still blew it like...well, there's no polite way to finish that sentence.
Even with three DDs and Skelly.
proven robin
It happen.
west totem
It happen
proven robin
I think the sword is a very honest weapon, in that there's few if any tricks, you just gotta do it, if that makes sense.
west totem
Soul explosions are tough
proven robin
There's no extra defense like with the shield, no range like with the ranged weapons, not even any dodge chance like the default fists.
But the sword does have flexibility, I've noticed, in that it can make good use of pretty much anything you slap onto it.
Or maybe that's just me scrambling to make use of whatever I find.
mystic vale
My last bow run, I could have had it, but last boss spawned multiple black mini-bosses.
And I couldn't keep up on dodging them all.
proven robin
Ooof,
dry ember
Bow is my favorite
mystic vale
Sword has a good enough swing speed that Divine Strike makes you pretty safe... most of the time.
dry ember
But it needs some hammer upgrades though
mystic vale
And the special helps from getting you overwhelmed.
proven robin
I've discovered that the key with the bow is to keep a cool head.
And keep a good distance.
west totem
Hammer upgrade: Turn your sword into a gun
proven robin
The sword...the special feels too slow for me.
mystic vale
TBH I think the hammer upgrades are so vital to weapons that they really should just be given at the entrances to Tartarus and Elysium.
dry ember
Hmm I'm the opposite
proven robin
And it can be kara-cancelled for pretty much no benefit.
dry ember
I take Triple Shot and I go in
west totem
Arent the hammer upgrades given to you at the start of elysium
mystic vale
Usually.
proven robin
Like, you can special with the sword, then cancel it into a normal swing for no real benefit.
mystic vale
I've seen it hold off until the third room though.
And I've had to buy the damn hammer in the room before end of Tartarus.
Syd; one trick I DID find...
FWIW, if you happen to be specialising in thrust for any reason, you can special/strike/strike and you still get a thrust.
mystic vale
So you can spec to knockback a small crowd, then double strike to thrust at your main target.
mystic vale
Just in case you hammer into Cruel Thrust.
proven robin
I do have solid strategies for the fists and T H E G U N, if you need those.
mystic vale
Nope, those and shield are the ones I don't suck with. :p
mystic vale
Although I don't have an Exagryph win without Spread Fire yet.
dry ember
The fists seem tough
mystic vale
Again; Divine Strike, 5 hits per 2 sec, you spend most of your time deflecting.
proven robin
The fists are my favorite, thanks to what I figured out with how to make them just do lots of damage even without hammer mods.
mystic vale
...I can't even remember what the fist special is. :x
I'm just so used to strike/dash strike with them.
proven robin
So what I do, and it does take some dexterity, is to do the normal fist combo (which can be done by holding the button, which is very useful), and then cancel the last hit into a very quick dash-strike aimed at whoever I'm already comboing.
You can trap the opponent, if you're good enough, in basically an infinite combo, and the constant dashing means you're safer from enemy attacks than you might think.
mystic vale
Bonus points for Athena.
proven robin
Well, for this, I use Zeus for extra damage.
mystic vale
Divine Dash, yo.
mystic vale
Thunder Strike is good though.
dry ember
What are some good boons for the fist?
proven robin
Hmm...
mystic vale
Flat damage.
dry ember
It's the only thing I haven't won with yet
proven robin
Zeus for the Attack.
mystic vale
Aphrodite on the special isn't bad.
proven robin
You'll probably want a good cast since you lack range options.
proven robin
Preferably something you can just fire and forget.
Yeah, Artemis cast is good, though I wouldn't say no to Ares or Demeter.
mystic vale
True Strike FTW.
dry ember
How about Dionysus for the attack?
proven robin
Dionysus is fine, and so's Demeter.
dry ember
I imagine you can stack that quickly
mystic vale
I'd say no to Ares. Artemis, Demeter, or Aphrodite. Art crits and the other two have stellar debuffs.
proven robin
Anything you wanna stack up? Yeah.
mystic vale
Low Tolerance is good on fists too.
proven robin
Demeter can be good to just prevent retaliation.
dry ember
I usually find myself lacking in damage
proven robin
Or if you've got the extra bonus that makes enemies Decay.
dry ember
With fists
proven robin
If you're looking for damage, though, I recommend Zeus for the Attack.
mystic vale
Fists and Exagryph benefit from a lot of the same boons 'cause they both have fast attacks.
proven robin
Special can be anything, but Dionysus is indeed good.
Oh, and get Support Fire from Artemis.
mystic vale
Decay is amazing when you're fighting stuff that doesn't summon friggin' hordes. :p
proven robin
You are proccing that so many times.
Oh, and for the Fists, if you can? Get Athena's Call.
dry ember
Oh true
mystic vale
Any call with invulnerable, really.
dry ember
Yeah I take Athena's Call for most stuff
proven robin
Build to Greater Call, pop that, and then just Go In.
proven robin
Use the combo I put in above, and that'll work.
It will do wonders.
You'll be floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee.
pliant palm
https://prnt.sc/shlgxu Now that was a pretty fun build
wet kernel
Is there any way to turn off the screen shifting around when you move the mouse. I have motion sickness when playing this game.
dry ember
Ok so cancel last aa hit into dash strike
proven robin
I don't have a video capture option handy, but if I did I could show off how the combo looks.
But yes, that's how it goes. You'll know you got it right if the damage counter doesn't reset.
Also...that would be good, for motion sickness.
dry ember
I'll just try it and see how it is. Probably will get back to you if I need more help :D
wet kernel
Good point, I'll try using a controller. Thanks Syd
proven robin
Good luck, @wet kernel ! Either way, though, if a controller isn't an option, that can be a huge problem.
pliant palm
Screen shifting ? Wdym ?
proven robin
Like, I assume the screen has some level of follow for your mouse cursor.
pliant palm
Hum
proven robin
So it kinda jiggles if you're moving the cursor around a lot, like you might in a fight.
pliant palm
No ?
proven robin
Unsure if that's what they mean.
wet kernel
If you keep your mouse near your character but move it around it will shift in the direction of your mouse even if you aren't near the edge of the screen
proven robin
I never tested it, but if so, that would suck.
west totem
the parralax thing
mystic vale
I wish there was a mode where when you picked your first boon, that deity became more likely to show until you got at least three boons in it or something. Often I want to focus on 1-2 deities but they keep trying to make me catch 'em all.
proven robin
Yeah, that might be cool.
west totem
Isnt that just normal gameplay kek
proven robin
Lemme tell you, it...was not a picnic trying to get Demeter's legendary.
pliant palm
Idk what you mean, the screen doesn't move for me
mystic vale
Not sure if that would be a mirror thing or an Aspect or what.
tepid ridge
@proven robin No one talks about it but Iām pretty sure itās just as annoying to get as nerfed Artemisā
mystic vale
It would have anti-synergy if it were a keepsake.
tepid ridge
Requires two tier 2 boons last I checked
proven robin
I know, but like...it still never showed up.
mystic vale
Dual Shot and Exit Wounds.
proven robin
Or after I get the second boon, she just...stops appearing.
It was very frustrating.
mystic vale
Which means usually not until late Asphodel at best.
tepid ridge
Demeterās requires the chill explosion and decay I believe
mystic vale
Since once you get a second boon from her, the game's all ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT ARES AND POSEIDON?
pliant palm
@wet kernel Do you have a vid or something ?
west totem
I got poseidon 4 times in a row and they were all sunken treasures
tepid ridge
Oh maybe not, wiki diagram now says differently for Demeter. 4 sunken treasures? stonks
pliant palm
oof
hazy yacht
wave bois again https://i.imgur.com/IyoSKSY.png
mystic vale
Oh, hrrm. How's this for an Aspect idea: The deity you get your first Boon from shows up 3x as often, but only offers two choices after your first pick?
hazy yacht
startin to get up there in heat
pliant palm
Just realized, why the hell does the textures of the games gets lower when I attack
mighty ermine
that wouldn't work well as an aspect considering it wouldn't be reflected in the weapon's unique properties at all
totally unrelated
naive tusk
@tepid ridge diagram is still the same as it has been since last update. What do you mean itās different ?
Unless you were referring to pre- Nighty Night?
tepid ridge
@naive tusk I mustāve just misread it before since it uses the words āany of thoseā for the tier 1ās but not the tier 2ās. The way the colored arrows combine confused me for a hot sec. wasnāt sure if it was implying they had to āmergeā, I.E. that you had to have both to met prereqs. Demeter and Zeus are just those two gods that have never given me their legendaries thanks to RNG so Iām biased.
Apologies for the misinfo!
naive tusk
@hazy yacht you make our uncle proud š
hazy yacht
uncle poseidon is my favorite uncle
I like how the wave looks like a watery arm flexing
š
tepid ridge
Itās Poseidonās arm
hazy yacht
explains a lot...
mighty ermine
"watch this, little hades!" (flexes the entire ocean)
tepid ridge
Throwing more meta currency at you instead of actual boons
naive tusk
Oh, I see. I thought the different colored arrows merging would contrast with the other lines so as to say āyou need bothā š
naive tusk
Flexing waters~
neon fiber
You know
Flexing the ocean does seem like somehing heād do
mighty ermine
absolutely
mystic vale
@mighty ermine That's where all the trade-off stuff goes though. There and hammers. Mirror is all straight buffs and most keepsakes are too (and you'd want to use this with keepsakes.)
So I can't think where else it'd go. It's not a punishment.
tepid ridge
Wait @naive tusk you do need both boons??
Because Artemisā diagram does the same thing with colored arrows
mighty ermine
it's just that aspects are intended to be specific or thematic to their weapon or the weapon's playstyle in some way
naive tusk
Yeah. After last update, you need both to get Winter Harvest
mighty ermine
having something that's just disconnected from the weapon entirely probably wouldn't happen
mystic vale
How's the sword get a caster aspect, then? :p
mighty ermine
you special to dislodge them.
naive tusk
According to update notes, itās so itās not available too soon
mighty ermine
it's dynamic and creates new interactive setups for stygius
the cast damage bonus is part of the aspect's intent to promote cast and special weaving
mystic vale
I'd like an axe and hammer, but they're not very Greek. Heh.
tepid ridge
@naive tusk My lord so I was right in the first place I just second-guessed myself out of it when I checked. Nevermind, the arrowsā color is working as intended. Apologies! I have gone back to frowning at Demeter.
naive tusk
Brb hugging Demeter again
tepid ridge
mystic vale
Wow, the requirements for Black Out are nuts.
naive tusk
They make sense considering foes have to be in Festive Fog and with Hangover stacks
~~Unless you purge boons then it doesnāt ~~
mystic vale
I'm just trying to clear those prophecies and man, it's some effort. Even if I try like mad to focus on one deity, I usually don't see the payoff until temple if at all.
tepid ridge
Dio Blackout/Bow build on Aspect of Zag would be ridiculous now I think of it
mystic vale
I see part of my problem with Zeus is my constant getting Static Discharge.
Since it doesn't help get Splitting Bolt at all.
tepid ridge
Yea Zeus has been a spot of trouble for me in getting his higher tier boons as well for some reason
mystic vale
tepid ridge
I get storm lightning day and night when Iām using Zeus Railgun but my RNG is cursed
mystic vale
https://hades.gamepedia.com/Poseidon <--- the picture here shows something called Huge Catch, but it's not listed on the boons.
pliant palm
Wut, just got an Heroic flurry cast and I can't just launch one cast
Even the slightest touch is 2
š
mystic vale
Huh. One day I'll have to go hardcore blade rift to see Vicious Cycle. That...what weapon even goes with "focus on Blade Rift?" Oh, wait. I don't have the blooded up Stygius. :/
Back to the grind. :p
pliant palm
The spear aspect that give damage after your charge
Don't remember the name
Sounds like the best one
mystic vale
Artemis just broke my brain. Deadly Strike, Deadly Flourish, or True Shot on the bow.
tepid ridge
Aspect of Achilles
mystic vale
Eh, let's see how early I can go for Fully Loaded if I actually try my hardest.
Ouch. Next room is Dio vs. money.
My resolve is tested.
tepid ridge
The aspect of talos on the gloves also boosts cast damage I believe
proven robin
Vicious Cycle works fine with Ares's Call.
mystic vale
Sigh. I gotta take the Dio. That could get silly on the Flourish.
naive tusk
https://hades.gamepedia.com/Poseidon <--- the picture here shows something called Huge Catch, but it's not listed on the boons.
@mystic vale Huge Catch is Poseidonās 2nd Legendary
mystic vale
What's it do though?
naive tusk
List hasnāt been updated , thatās all
raw violet
Itās an increase to fish spawns, yes
naive tusk
It raises the chance of fishing spot appearance by 20% š£
mighty ermine
@naive tusk do you know if it also shortens the chamber "cooldown" period between fishing spots?
viscid vale
Poseidon is really the god you want to have a beer with
bet he must prefer water though
proven robin
Honestly most of the Olympians are kinda :/ except for Athena and Artemis.
Like, I don't trust most of those folks farther than I could throw them.
earnest ravine
Hermes is also pretty chill, in his defence.
mighty ermine
to be fair it's intended for the gods to come across as not entirely trustworthy for the most part
proven robin
Poseidon is a boisterous blowhard.
mighty ermine
and hermes is pretty chill
proven robin
He's pleasant and big, sure, but that is conditional..
mighty ermine
i think that's kind of true and a scary aspect of the gods reflected especially in double boon rooms
if they don't get what they want, they can act like children
proven robin
The second he thinks you don't think he's the bestest uncle ever? Oops, dodge water until I change my mind.
Even Artemis does it, and I feel like she's one of the only ones there who bothers to be genuine with you.
viscid vale
chill ? Hermes ? Are we talking about superfast guy ?
proven robin
I do get the sentiment. Yeah, Hermes is alright. He's fast and energetic, but he is chill.
mighty ermine
i do like how artemis sounds like she takes it more personally than the others with some of her rejection lines
like she's frustrated that zagreus wouldn't side with her, because she feels like she's growing to connect with him in her own way
while stuff like zeus is just
you know, zeus
proven robin
Yeah, and like...I think Zag's the only god she feels like she can hang with, no hidden knives, no chess games.
mighty ermine
for sure yeah
proven robin
(Sadly, sometimes I have to side against her if I'm not eager to take on the other god's displeasure)
Like, sometimes Demeter's hurricanes just mess me up something fierce.
mighty ermine
her wrath is unfortunately one of the easiest to avoid so i do the same a lot
sorry arty
viscid vale
gods are not too jealous with you, i mean look, when Paris sided with Aprhodite, there was a ten years war
he was going for the weak build
proven robin
...I wonder if there are gonna be more gods.
Like, maybe Hera and Hestia will show up.
viscid vale
and Apollo
proven robin
I doubt they'd add more boon trees this far in, but...
viscid vale
with a fabulous outfit
the problem with Apollo is, he's an archer
he's also the god of illnesses and prophecies, so there's a lot
and light
proven robin
And music!
viscid vale
and beauty
proven robin
And being really gay.
viscid vale
yea, pretty much
proven robin
...Might also be fun to have Heracles as a hidden superboss.
viscid vale
ohh yea
proven robin
And when Zag discovers him he just can't stop squeeing throughout the battle.
Like "Heracles hit me...Heracles hit me! HHHHHHHHHHHHH"
proven robin
He can if you pierce all 12 layers of resurrection magic.
viscid vale
i mean Heracles technically isn't in Hell, wasn't he given god status ?
proven robin
I...forget.
viscid vale
if i recall correctly he's on Olympus now, drinking and partying
he became basically a new god
proven robin
...What if you get boons from him???
viscid vale
he's not one of the powerful Olympians, not the original ones anyway, but still, he became an important god later
so yea that could be
it wouldn't be crazy at all
proven robin
...Speaking of, who the heck is gonna be the future wielder of Exagryph?
viscid vale
only thing is, you would feel bad cause he's the son of a god too and he had a better career opportunity than you
mystic vale
Rambo.
viscid vale
Exagryph then became a missile launcher in Cuba and nearly destroyed the world in 1962
proven robin
Or give it to Ms. Pavlichenko.
I'm gonna bet the bow will be Robin Hood.
I would honestly be thrilled if the fists were Muhammad Ali, but I doubt it.
viscid vale
come to think of it, that would be awkward if Heracles was in Hades kingdom, cause he hurt Hades with an arrow when he visited during his life
Hades was not pleased
proven robin
When is he ever?
viscid vale
fair point
mystic vale
Baldr when???
pliant palm
Kratos when
proven robin
Two people calling Zag Boi.
pliant palm
B O I
viscid vale
in Homer's Iliad, the Underworld is called "the Hades", cause it's directly assimilated to Hades, yea, i had to place that info
i love how Hades calls Zag B O I
mystic vale
Urns are like the roaches of the underworld.
pliant palm
I really love the voice acting of the game in general
viscid vale
Its so nice, i think that's maybe the first thing that made me go wow about the game
also the graphics / art
pliant palm
Yup
pliant palm
Not usual to have voice acting, evolving lore and things like that for this kind of game
viscid vale
yea, it's a gem
pliant palm
The AAA of rogue-lites x)
viscid vale
their Zeus
ive read the myths but also, should i be ashamed if Zeus in this game reminds me of Zeus in the Disney movie Hercules (and Zeus on the cover of the old city building game about Greece, Master of Olympus or sth)
viscid vale
help is not on the way
rest safe
breathe normally
don't punch Theseus
or punch him, in fact
dry ember
@proven robin Thanks for the Malphon tips mate!
I finally made it
I also got uber lucky in the run, but a clear is a clear
pliant palm
GG !
proven robin
Whoooooo!
dry ember
Yeah I thought to myself support fire would be nice
And then immediately walks into Artemis with support fire
Then I thought hmm pressure point would be nice
Then wish granted lol
dry ember
Yeah with triple dash from Hermas and Divine Dash
I think everything went righr
For once
proven robin
Were you able to pull off the combo?
dry ember
I think so. At least my attacks weren't interrupted
And I can basically stun lock non armored opponents
dry ember
I think my dash is a bit early
hazy yacht
oof, new speed record https://i.imgur.com/ubXa7Xz.jpg
proven robin
Niiiiice!
proven robin
You're welcome!
Oh, and if you find yourself dashing too far, the Hammer mod that lengthens your jab range is helpful.
dry ember
I had that too haha
proven robin
Or if you wanna avoid the combo, Rolling Knuckle is a good option.
That lets you just hold it down and you will have an infinite combo regardless.
proven robin
::nod!:: I mean, it's not necessary if you have the combo down.
But it can be good, and I wouldn't turn it down.
naive tusk
@naive tusk do you know if it also shortens the chamber "cooldown" period between fishing spots?
@mighty ermine Oopsie! I missed this message. Sorry about that
I think it does eliminate the 10-chamber cooldown. I saw something about a ālimiter being removedā in its info, and if I remember correctly, I recall fishing more than 4 times in a run
proven robin
...Is it possible to get it more than once?
Like, I've only gotten it once in all the runs I've done.
I would like another run of Go Fishing.
naive tusk
Yeah. I have been consistently getting it when I go for Sunken Treasure and Oceanās Bounty while avoiding all of the knockback boons
mystic vale
Chaos loves me. 4 portals this time.
proven robin
Hmmm.
mystic vale
Of course, watch me say that and then get smashed in the temple.
naive tusk
Thatās Chaosā tough love 
tepid ridge
Insert Chaos whispering a synonym for destruction here
mystic vale
Yep, Theseus BS'd me to death.
Turned and blocked 95% of my shots on a dime.
Gods I hate the bow.
Everything is so slow. Which is hilarious, because bows are extremely fast in the hands of skilled archers. :/
Guess Zag just blows with bows.
lapis matrix
Kind of wish we had an easier way of farming darkness
lapis matrix
In hell mode we can't exactly drop down a heat level
So you would have to lose a run to do so
mystic vale
Oooh, Vicious Skewer. This should be fun.
mighty ermine
@mighty ermine Oopsie! I missed this message. Sorry about that
I think it does eliminate the 10-chamber cooldown. I saw something about a ālimiter being removedā in its info, and if I remember correctly, I recall fishing more than 4 times in a run
@naive tusk ahh cool, thanks!
mystic vale
How do Charged/Chain Skewer interact with Vicious?
Chain probably overwrites it. š¦
unkempt pagoda
charged and chain skewers don't touch the returning part of the special
vicious still works with them (though with chain, you can't really aim the return too well)
solid ruin
ok so yesterday someone put in the feedback channel that asterius should have reduced hp in the theseus fight if you fight him as a miniboss, and. he does, right? I'm not crazy?
unkempt pagoda
he already does
solid ruin
ok im glad i wasn't just like making stuff up ^.^
mystic vale
Chain actually works well 'cause you get back to a controllable backstab when you're down to one enemy/boss.
mystic vale
Fanshade needs an emote. :x
Phew, absolutely could not have done tiny vermin without Frost Flourish to slow down those summons.
viscid vale
lol
mystic vale
Sack was in the last damn tunnel. I should get a DD for that. :p
Dual shot black metal slicing shot is pretty fun.
viscid vale
last tunnel, i feel ya
hazy yacht
man i had a really bad run but hades was surprisingly easy https://i.imgur.com/mJSC38s.jpg
all you need with varatha is triple dash attack and upgraded dashes and everything is trivial
hazy yacht
i didnt even have athena or a damage boon
tidal hawk
The timer
I just dislike it
I take my time on runs
So it forces me to play differently
viscid vale
same
tidal hawk
And I get destroyed
hazy yacht
ah, my first ever run was below the timer's requirements
so i figured it can't do any harm
tidal hawk
My runs are typically 30-45 min
hazy yacht
i'm a little bit fast i guess, though i don't suspect any of my runs are even near speed run pace
even the 19 minute one
mystic vale
Hrrm. Stubborn Defiance seems odd to me.
But then I've always needed at least two DDs for end boss.
dull saffron
Hey guys! I just recently unlocked all the available weapons, and I was wondering which weapon aspects I should be unlocking first.
coarse agate
I feel like its a bit of personal preference. Which weapon(s) are your current favorite?
opal glade
there's one aspect that is related to the narrative if you haven't unlocked it yet
but otherwise, playstyle
dull saffron
@coarse agate Well I have been using the Stygian Blade a lot, and I've beaten Tartarus with every weapon, and beaten Asphodel with the Blade and the Rail so far. The Blade's Nemesis aspect sounds appealing.
viscid vale
it depends on your playstyle really, and dw you'll make mistakes
tidal hawk
The blades hidden aspect is really fun to use
Not sure what the conditions to unlock it are though
viscid vale
you should test weapons and do all the attacks then decide what strategy you'll be most comfortable with or what excites you
real nebula
minimum like 13 blood to get the balde aspect though, I wouldn't count on it
mystic vale
Passion Dash and Frost Strike. I am a walking nerf bat.
viscid vale
lmao
mystic vale
Well, dash-striking nerf bat.
dull saffron
Furthest I've gotten so far is my first encounter with Theseus & Asterius duo boss, which more or less curb-stomped me ^^;
tidal hawk
Ok basically
If you try to dual the minotaur
Thesus kills you
If you try to kill Thesus
The minotaur comes after you
Just run in circles and kill the minotaur first
He is the biggest problem in that fight
since he follows you around
Then Thesus is easy pickings
real nebula
Thesius and Asterius is all about knowing their patterns, once you know what they do it gets pretty easy to dodge them.
coarse agate
Focus minotaur first. If you get Thesus below or to 50% max hp, he will summon a random god to help him, further hindering progess if minotaur is still alive
mystic vale
I personally find it easier to drop Theseus first more often than not but that seems to be me and me alone. :p
coarse agate
I agree with @real nebula
viscid vale
id say the main thing is theseus, he's deadly from afar, difficult to damage and problematic when hurt, so either you finish off the bull while managing to avoid theseus attacks, or you prioritize theseus...or you can try to hit both with AoE all the time
mystic vale
I find that if I go after the mino, Theseus snipes me while I'm distracted, whereas if I go after Theseus, the mino is usually on the other side of the arena trying to figure out where I am while I assassinate Mr. Godcaller.
coarse agate
@mystic vale I'd agree, but I hate the enemy shield blocking. Very difficult to manage with two enemies + potential god/goddess power
tidal hawk
Theseus isn't that big of an issue
Since the game tells you when he snipes
Just dodge 4head
shrewd brook
Most videos I saw, people seem to go after Douchebag King first but I personally find it hard to deal with 50% Theseus and his bull at once so I usually focus on Asterius first
viscid vale
the bull is easier to deal with first, id say, its big and doing everything it can to get noticed
dull saffron
@real nebula I've actually been using controller lately
real nebula
ah nevermind, weapon choice is all preference
viscid vale
i find it hard to avoid theseus strikes bc his timing is very tricky for me
especially when fighting the bull and avoiding god attacks
tidal hawk
Extra dodges makes Theseus cake
coarse agate
@viscid vale the further he is, the longer his charge up/vise versa. I'd suggest hiding behind a pillar and remember the direction that he's aiming at
viscid vale
yea, god bless pillars
coarse agate
I still hate the minotaur charge/pillar block though, sometimes feels like rng lol
viscid vale
Theseus is sometimes a little bit confused so that helps
man, in my last run i nearly died against Hades
he destroyed 2 DD
i had my boosted boom with the rail (special) so that helped
rail is pretty comfy against Hades
usually
real nebula
I fought hades at 243 health on my last run and lost it all to the vase + brimstone combo, had to get by on defiance
tidal hawk
Vase brimstone sucks
viscid vale
its sooo satisfying to see him fall when you're on your last HPs, lol
its like, phew
real nebula
I think my lowest was 9
viscid vale
lmao
real nebula
with no defiances left
viscid vale
absolute madlad
tidal hawk
I survived vase brimstone
That was the 10hp no defiance
You have no idea how fast I mashed space bar
To get out
I AM LOADED
999 money on styx
Time to buy out the shop
naive tusk
Buy that Diamond š
viscid vale
legend @tidal hawk
proven robin
Actually, I always kill Theseus first.
proven robin
Whatever, man.
tidal hawk
I'm just kidding with you
proven robin
Thanks for the reassurance.
proven robin
Sorry, habit of mine.
proven robin
Well, that's a comfort.
proven robin
It's pretty good. Need to get more revenge boons next time I get it.
lapis matrix
It's okay
mystic vale
I am really tempted to sell Greater Recall right before Styx for 440.
Although it is a very nice ability, I think for the remaining areas I can chase down my crystals.
lapis matrix
Depends on the build it really helps during hades fight
proven robin
'Course, it can also be less helpful if you've got that Zeus duo boon where lightning happens around your bloodstones.
mystic vale
Meh, I sold it and bought out Charon's entire shop minus the Titan Blood. Including +30% attack speed.
I'm doing Shield/Dash.
My casting isn't too important.
proven robin
I always buy the Diamond or Titan Blood, funnily enough.
mystic vale
And all those boons got me nothing. Summoned two black soul catchers, which made me waste thousands of damage on them that could have killed him.
proven robin
Awww.
hazy yacht
excalibur OP https://i.imgur.com/fLZ63kL.png
proven robin
Oooh!
turbid needle
It's not your main damage dealer like Slicing Shot or True Shot.
mystic vale
I was hoping to win that run. It would have gotten my Dark Reflections tick for Cthonic.
turbid needle
But Crystal Beam is great for chip, breaking Damage Control hearts and armor when they only have a little health left.
mystic vale
Hrrm. Damnit, bow's my weapon this run. I could go Hera and try for Ice Wine arrows, or go regular and try...what? Hrm.
turbid needle
Triple Shot, Chain Shot, Zag Aspect, Deadly Strike, every single Dash-Strike boon you can find.
mystic vale
Have no bloods for aspects. But I guess I can grab the arrowhead and go.
Ouch. Artemis offered Deadly Strike and Hunter Dash...but Epic True Shot.
naive tusk
You could also go Triple Shot + Explosive Shot and just boom your way to the surface >:D
turbid needle
Could always reset to Hera.
mystic vale
Yeah, we'll see what hammers give me.
Yeah, reset seems the right idea.
3 encounters, +392% damage from traps, but attack gets +62% damage? K.
turbid needle
Just don't step in the magma.
mystic vale
In Tartarus? Think I'm good.
...Erk. Coin/Poseidon. Tempted to alter that, but Poseidon might give me something not embarrassing. I can switch to someone else later maybe.
Oh, right. I'm on Family Favourite. Damage boost anyhow.
naive tusk
Ocean's Bounty is OP 
unkempt pagoda
chain shot on zag aspect is disgustingly good
mystic vale
So far; Impending Doom (Epic), Abyssal Strike (62%), Chain Shot, Poseidon's Aid (Rare), True Shot (Epic), Curse of Pain, Deadly Strike (Epic)
mystic vale
Sigh. Champs ate me. I hate the bow.
proven robin
::patpat::
turbid needle
haeliaPatty
lapis matrix
The shield dudes are a problem with the bow
turbid needle
They definitely can be.
paper mountain
Got a question. I'm 30+ runs in, have 6 nectar given to multiple NPCs and I've got about twenty Ambrosia burning a hole in my pocket with nothing to do with them. What gives?
turbid needle
Just, hold on to the Ambrosia.
paper mountain
At this point I'd give them to the Loch Ness Monster if he asked
unkempt pagoda
they're late stage material
turbid needle
Keep dropping Nectar on people when you can.
carmine forge
anyone know how to check my current win streak
paper mountain
Alright as long as I'm not missing something. Thanks!
carmine forge
nvm i just realized I can check my security log lol
it doesn't directly say it but eh
good enough
cunning urchin
That would probably get some upvotes if you post it in #hades-feedback.
paper mountain
Holy hell Forced Overtime is a LOT harder than I was anticipating.
Say goodbye to stagger locking anyone ever.
cunning urchin
You can still keep enemies in hitstun on FO2.
Dash cancel to keep your combos going.
languid storm
Is sisyphus really one of the only NPC's that you can give nectar too after you speak to them?
cunning urchin
That's one thing I'm hoping they'll patch in the next update.
languid storm
I mean Than and Dusa make's sense because they usually disappear but the rest of them is irritating
cunning urchin
It's very "Ugh."
languid storm
Yeah I've had some feelsbad moments where I forget to use it or just never get the chance to because they're locked in dialogue with other characters
cunning urchin
The first couple times, I thought it was a bug.
lament coral
@naive tusk in regards to your Chaos' DD suggestion: it's on the right because it's hard to get, meaning that it'll be the first to go, providing you with an extra DD slot ready to be refilled; Skelly's DD is a last chance sort of thing, you can take it whenever you want, and so it's not meant to be refilled unless you're practically down and out, which carries its own risks.
young gorge
But chaos' dd is so pretty!
languid storm
I like athena's DD too
I was today years old when I realized that theseus' spear throw can damage asterius
languid storm
Normal
You need to deflect it to hurt theseus but if the spear hits asterius it does about 100ish
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536807176560312321/711094109183541288/Hades_00008.png
Finally got the Guan Yu clear
naive tusk
What Val & Syntaks said. They are just so pretty
unkempt pagoda
i want sgg to make duo boons for all combinations solely bc i want to see the icon art
heck, they don't have to put them in the game if they don't want to, i just like looking at boon art
languid storm
I would love for another Hermes style god
cunning urchin
So what you really want is an art book.
unkempt pagoda
but just of boon/hammer art
cunning urchin
Guan Yu is nice.
Yes, you're right. An art book of Lady Aphrodite would be perfect.
languid storm
I had to upgrade it at least once to make it out though as the 70% was killing me
I would also take a Meg/Than book
I would also be super down for Hera or Hephaestus to get boons
languid storm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536807176560312321/711110531867607060/Hades_00009.png
I just got to watch hades wildly self own because of jolted, though the second phase of his fight is super rough with the bow on controller as it's constantly trying to lock on to the jars instead of him
lapis matrix
Is it weird I prefer alt Theseus better than regular?
mystic vale
Erg. I have a special not-like for armoured flamewheels.
neon fiber
It is alright my dude we all do
You can say you hate those with the fury of a thousand suns
In fact i encourage you to do it for it is in fact quite cathartic
vivid solar
What boons work well with adamant rail? I recently got the game and have two clears with it. #1 I ran dionysus attack/aphrodite special and had their duo boon. #2 I had zeus attack, poseiden special and their duo boon
lament coral
Zeus attack, high % damage on the special, like Aphrodite or Arty for crits. You usually don't ever want to take Poseidon special on the off chance you get any of the special hammers that create multiple shots, cause the knockback from the special would just push them out of the shots' range.
Hestia rail usually runs Arty attack for the crit, along with her dash for extra damage
stable onyx
viscid vale
i did it boyos, i finally unlocked guan yu aspect for the spear; and turns out I really like it, ive also unlocked the more basic aspects
i might finally like the spear, yesss
but i had to change my keybinds
i don't like spamming click to attack
mystic vale
Dashing Wallop + Frost Strike. Don't fail me now.
wet dome
I promise you this isn't stupid, you can look at how many defiances I have left to make sure
mystic vale
Hm, Ares door or Chaos gate?
lel jk bye ares
If I had Aspect of Eris, I'd probably love that. I've done almost that exact build before and still failed heat 0. š¦
Hrrm, 56% dash strike, or 71 life...that's a lot of damage, but also a lot of beef. :x
Meh, if I do that much extra damage, the fights might end before I need the life.
viscid vale
i'm in my first ever guan yu run
cunning urchin
I'd 100% take 71 life.
mystic vale
You're also probably smarter than me. :p
I bet it surprises everyone that my first four level three keepsakes are Chaos, Athena, Zeus, and Demeter. :p
Grabbed Divine Dash too, unlike my last one where I had Passion Dash.
viscid vale
i'm not surprised...Chaos and Athena are good, Demeter...i don't like her a lot but her boons are not that bad
mystic vale
Chill is easily my favourite debuff.
Slow enemies are usually non-threatening enemies, if I have any kind of range option.
turbid arch
Overall, all by themselves, I would say that Dionysus and Demeter are the best gods in the game right now
mystic vale
Reminds me, I need to switch back to Ruthless Reflex as soon as I get a win with the other one. 50% dodge 4L.
turbid arch
Aphrodite would be up there too.
viscid vale
Dio is OP but please don't nerf
turbid arch
The other gods are decent, but only in specific contexts.
Ares being the least reliably good one.
Which is hilarious considering that Doom is actually decent.
mystic vale
I like Doom with Chaos aspect Aegis.
mystic vale
But it doesn't summon cyberdemons.
vivid solar
what upgrades should I go for for adamant rail? Being offered rocket bomb, explosive fire, spread fire. Only played with rocket before so not sure about the others. going for dio attack run
viscid vale
never listen to my advice is a good advice i can give
mystic vale
Spread Fire is amazeballs.
Like "probably going to get nerfed so enjoy it now" amazeballs.
young gorge
Spread fire is so broken
proud storm
neon fiber
yes
viscid vale
i do'nt remember, what is ruthless reflex
mystic vale
If you dash away from being almost damaged, you get +50% dodge and damage for 2 seconds.
Competes with extra dash on mirror.
Also easy to trigger with Hazard Bomb. :p
viscid vale
oooh nice
mystic vale
Really nice with the heavier hitting weapons.
mystic vale
50, 56, and 100% dash strike boosts from Chaos. ā¤ļø
young gorge
that is so hot
mystic vale
I could be breaking 500 on these if I had Ruthless Reflex. :/
Theseus was backed by Poseidon. It's like he wanted to lose.
Blinding Flash is nice with this too.
hazy yacht
theseus' poseidon call is pretty good
but tbh theseus being vulnerable during his call is his greatest undoing
i just unload on him
he usually dies before he finishes the call
mystic vale
Heat 1 Shield complete.
Great, now I only need Fiery Presence, Stubborn Defiance, and High Confidence for Dark Reflections.
Fiery and High could go together on some balls-out cast build like I've seen speed runs of.
mossy breach
for dark reflections I just switched all the mirror bonuses, It was an interesting run and made me apreciate the other bonuses more
mystic vale
I had to do a few at a time. No way was I doing High Confidence and Cthonic Vitality.
Starting with 50 life and having itty bitty heals? No10q.
I've actually started legitimately liking Golden Touch, Stygian Soul, and Family Favourite though.
GT is nice if you take your first two preferred deities, switch to the coin purse for Elysium, and then your choice of defence for Styx.
Get that extra 150 gold for GT's trigger.
Alright, game wants me to heat 1 spear. Still sussing my way about the spear. Dash Strike and Skewer are two very different beasts.
hazy yacht
dang.. what a start to this run. Exagryph with 5x bomb special, epic artemis boon, and +83% special chaos boon
and a pom already
just got thru tartarus
my special was one-shotting tisiphone to phase breakpoints
mystic vale
Nice.
Breaching Skewer, Exploding Launcher, or Chain Skewer. I have Frost Flourish.
If it were the Elysium hammer, I'd probably take Breach immediately.
Chain Skewer is pretty good, but it means I'll need a really good Dash or Cast for when it's mid-air.
Meh. Let's explode things.
mystic vale
High Confidence is actually pretty nice, even if I know it won't last a minute on the end boss.
hazy yacht
what. a. run. https://i.imgur.com/Ji5Rimf.png
i still amost managed to die tho lol
but that was me being goony and not caring about evading
proven robin
Oh, wow.
That...seems like a hilarious setup.
Also, yeah, like...I don't evade perfectly as well either.
Can't pay attention to everything, so I miss hits coming.
All your clears are way faster than mine, too.
My fastest is like 23, with an average of maybe 40.
mystic vale
Ice Wine and exploding spears. Man I wanna screenie this. I need to win.
Goddamned green explosions. Athena never showed up, so I couldn't dodge them. š¦
Hmmm....10 nectar for an ambrosia. I have 5 ambrosia I haven't found a use for yet...
OTOH 10 nectars is also a diamond and I still needs those. Hrm.
Ugh. Sword run. Sigh.
proven robin
Just gotta try it!
I don't have much advice for you as far as the sword goes, but consider this hitting the lab.
See what works and see how that helps.
mystic vale
I know and loathe the sword mightily. Heh.
proven robin
It's also true that I haven't leveled the sword aside from maxing out Zag and Arthur.
Arthur is a pretty good power build, but Zag is the one I don't know how to work just yet. Maybe focus more on evasion given its boosting of move speed and dash length.
Like, just play it cool and look for openings, don't get greedy.
hazy yacht
zag aspect is best if you get the autofire daedalus upgrade
the one that makes your basic attack string infinitely
if you hold the attack button
...IMO
otherwise, I just play it like a dash attacker.
mystic vale
Died at Meg. Granted, with High Confidence so I was short 50 life, and Stubborn Defiance, but still. I am way too used to fighting her with weapons that don't suck.
tepid ridge
Thatās a pattern recognition thing. I used to routinely take upwards of that much damage against single furies (pun intended) but I think using Extreme Measures in the pact helped out my dodging.
That said, I donāt blame you, I donāt use High Confidence and Stubborn Defiance in my builds either after getting the prophecy for them
mystic vale
I'm trying to get the prophecy. And I can totally see them being amazing so long as you have a reliable ranged attack. My fault was not turning them off for sword.
cunning urchin
Stygian Blade doesn't suck.
mystic vale
Aaaaaaaaaaand from sword to bow. /wrists
It's funny, all the people who say it doesn't suck are using Aspects. :p
proven robin
Actually, the default works fine for me.
mystic vale
Un-Aspected blade sucks so badly, black holes can't escape from it.
proven robin
For the bow, I mean.
mystic vale
I dunno. Ice Wine power shots are fun.
But they haven't gotten me a win yet either, so...
cunning urchin
All the sword versions are aspects, though?
viscid vale
I like the zag bow enough
mystic vale
All my blood has gone to full Chaos shield, and 1 point Hera bow.
When I get spares, I'll work out what to do with them.
I keep hearing about this Guan Yu that I don't see on the spear that sounds amazing.
Same with the Excalibur sword.
dry ember
Probably a better approach than mine. I just unlock almost everything
So now I'm stuck with many choices
But they suck
mystic vale
Shield is my favourite. Spear, Rail, and Fist are alright. Sword and Bow can choke.
dry ember
Chiron bow without upgrades is laughable
cunning urchin
Guan Yu Aspect is difficult to use, actually. And most people say it's only good at Lv.5.
dry ember
Chaos Shield without upgrade is the same
mystic vale
Maxed Chaos Shield is amazing for spreading debuffs, and nailing Flamewheels offscreen.
hazy yacht
guan yu cost me my streak š¦ I wanted to try it against my better judgement to wait until i had level 5
hazy yacht
all the weapons are good tbh. it's just a play style thing
there's absolutely nothing wrong with you if you can't easily adapt to every weapon's play style, they're vastly different
mystic vale
This game goes against my usual roguelike/ARPG builds though.
dry ember
Some definitely need upgrades to realize their full potential though
mystic vale
My normal style is "if I can survive anything, my eventual victory is certain."
tepid ridge
Personally, I like the bow. The base aspect is super cheap and one of its best. Guan Yu isnāt as fun for my playstyle though since it nerfs your healing so much
dry ember
How is Hades different from other Rougelite games?
dry ember
Yeah Ik the difference
cunning urchin
Guan Yu Lv.5 halves your original HP, all healing, and all buffs to your max HP. At Lv.1 that effect is -70%.
mystic vale
Where going pure offence gets you dead before floor 20 of 100.
dry ember
Guan Yu is a cursed blade in disguise
hazy yacht
i mean, there's a lot to say about regen in Hades too
dry ember
Change my mind
hazy yacht
regen abilities are really useful in this game
mystic vale
What's the bonus, triple damage?
cunning urchin
I'm not that great with the sword either, honestly. Most of my sword clears are with Poseidon Aspect or Excalibur.
hazy yacht
so defense isn't without its merits... its just trying to survive by pure attrition which will get you dead in this game
my favorite aspects are the ones that I don't have to think about while I'm playing
so I tend to like the zag aspects the most
except excalibur. excalibur is pure amazing
dry ember
Hera Bow though
hazy yacht
I find it hard to get runs started with hera bow
dry ember
Just slap on Artemis or Dionysus keepsake
hazy yacht
once they're going, it's good, but the start is always rough for me
dry ember
Grab the cast
cunning urchin
The "bonus" with Guan Yu is your spin attack and special are a lot better, and your spin attack heals you for 1 HP for every hit.
dry ember
Call it a day.
hazy yacht
yeah, I guess that's just not enough for me to start a successful run
must be my play style
dry ember
Fair.
mystic vale
I loves me some Skewer. I am less enthused about Spin. I have never had the 2 seconds spare to charge it unless Athena's Aid is running.
dry ember
It's personal preference for sure
vivid solar
is olympian legacy better than favour?
dry ember
Which one is which?
vivid solar
legacy boosts legendary/duo chance and favour boosts rare
cunning urchin
Depends on pacts and what build you're going for. There are different strategies for these things.
dry ember
Sometimes I pick favour if I want to go really deep into one Gods boons
Like crit build with Artemis can use a lot of boons from her
mystic vale
Having used both about equally now, I'm using the Duo/Legendary to finish prophecies. I may not stick with it after. I miss the consistency of almost never seeing common boons.
Common boons give me a sad. š¦
mossy breach
hah its cool that even the gods mention it sometimes when they give you all comon options. Demeter once said something like "Sometimes i feel generous in my blessings, but not this time."
cunning urchin
What's important to keep in mind is that Olympian Favor doesn't affect Epic boons. There are plenty of boons where rarity doesn't matter (e.g., Divine Dash), so getting some commons if you still get epics can work out quite well if you get more Duo and Legendary boons.
mystic vale
Hmm, lemme check my brief win history.
mystic vale
Looks like 4 of my 5 wins did use a Duo. Although the Crystal Clarity one had nothing to do with the actual win. One had two duos. None had legendaries, interestingly enough.
Conversely, only one of them have a non-Hammer common, my shield 1 win. Which makes sense since it's the weapon I'm most comfortable with.
(At least in the featured section. I'm not giving the hairy eyeball to every icon in 5 screenies.)
hazy yacht
wtf THIS RUN https://i.imgur.com/VvMpyFd.jpg
1k damage spear throw crits at chamber 15
and 5 dashes...
viscid vale
baedalus indeed
mighty ermine
just had the most ridiculous zeus runs this morning
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654076105321480226/711242252353011732/20200516104112_1.jpg yeehaw
and then rail right after haha https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654076105321480226/711250399541330061/20200516111203_1.jpg
mystic vale
I'll try Fiery Presence with the bow - I probably won't be backstabbing anyhow - but High Confidence can get a break. :p
hazy yacht
mystic vale
What weapon? I can't tell from screenie.
mighty ermine
Guan Yu
mystic vale
How can you tell? Zag's bum is blocking his max life.
mighty ermine
their previous screenshot
mystic vale
Ah, that one happened while I was in the shower.
hazy yacht
crits are currently dealing 1400 damage
mystic vale
One day, I'll hear about someone actually doing power shot build of bow. :p
mighty ermine
i mean, i've done it plenty of times haha
mystic vale
Dash-strike should really not be the primary way to use bow. :p
mighty ermine
the way i play bow is chaining dash strike power shots
and it's how i get my times around 16m and under etc.
doing regular power shots feels slow as molasses now
dash strikes have spoiled me
young gorge
athena lied to you š
mystic vale
Is that an F10 moment?
proven robin
o_o
dry ember
Nah
mystic vale
I'm so bad, I can warp the very concept of possibility. š¦
mighty ermine
if that's the huge catch intro then it's intentional
dry ember
Where Poseidon gives you Huge Catch
mystic vale
I'll see what he says.
dry ember
While I have arte on
mystic vale
Ah, okay. Yep, Huge Catch.
shrewd brook
The gods of Olympus decided that you will fish. Get to it
hazy yacht
surprising literally no one, that was my fastest run. https://i.imgur.com/FV7nhgl.jpg
and I kind of took my time.
what a stupid ideal run
proven robin
...How is everyone so fast
viscid vale
im slow
mystic vale
At least the game is kind enough not to throw a Hecatoncheires boss at us.
viscid vale
lmao
mystic vale
That would get us ruined instantly.
viscid vale
almost forgot, i defeated the tiny vermin haha
got a "you defeated the tiny vermin" like it was Hades himself
proven robin
That Vermin....
mystic vale
So, funny story.
Until after I got the Darkness upgrade, I thought it was just 5 healing, not 5 max health. I still would have taken the keys first, but man.
proven robin
Yeah, it's pretty good.
dry ember
5 max Health also heals you for 5 yes?
mystic vale
Yeeeeees, but I thought it was only a heal for 5.
I didn't get the +max.
C'mon Hermes, gimme that auto-recall. Got trippy shot. :x
428 coin but using GT. Don't want to spend right before furies. :x
turbid arch
@mystic vale I have been there as well about the darkness upgrades.
mystic vale
Oh! I have an idea.
dry ember
Save it for Styx Titan Blood
mystic vale
I popped it in feedback.
I kept it all. 66g for beating Furies. Will get 100+ for Hydra, maybe even 200 for champs.
GT can be good if you're doing well and don't need heals.
I think I have an unhealthy addiction to Premium Vintage.
untold quiver
With the mirror upgrades maxed out I have less of a hankering for premium vintage now
mystic vale
Eh. It's still nice to have + max life. Plus, nectars trade up to diamonds.
shrewd brook
man, Veratha can be pretty nice but it's so hard to make her work https://imgur.com/QQ8ciLi
mighty ermine
i guess today i'm just getting new PBs for a bunch of weapons? sure https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654076105321480226/711265415011237899/20200516121252_1.jpg
languid storm
Nice one
I gotta say guan yu really needs a level or two to be worthwhile, 70% hp reduction is huge especially at 1-4 Heat
mystic vale
Har. Got the Triple AND Flurry shots.
languid storm
Also Golden touch with coin purse in tartarus, followed by the god items for the boons that give you the best duo's for ashphodel/elysium, then the spear tip for styx has got me on a 4 or 5 run streak rn
Stygian soul also feels infinitely better than infernal soul
mystic vale
Agreed on most, but I take the pouch for Elysium. Yes, I'd get more taking it earlier, but the difference is offset by getting my boons quicker.
languid storm
Getting the boons quicker is nice, but I usually find I can clear asphodel pretty safely no matter my boons, and if I pick the god I want I can pretty consistently get the boons in time for Theseus/Asterius
mystic vale
Flurry shot helps dash-shooting a lot. :p
hazy yacht
man... this was NOT a good run. https://i.imgur.com/IkXwc6P.png
